Re: [gentoo-user] Packet Shaping

2007-04-17 Thread Elias Probst
On Wednesday 18 April 2007 02:29:56 Grant wrote:
> I switched from The Wonder Shaper and started using shorewall configs
> and it's working great.  I can't get ipp2p to identify bittorrent
> traffic though, so I have the default set up for really low priority.
> Thanks for your help!  This is fun.
>
> - Grant

Never got Shorewall traffic shaping to do anything.
shorewall show | grep mark | grep -v "mark=0" | wc -l
is 0. It seems to fail when classifying packets. Neither port based 
classifying worked nor ipp2p based classifying.

If you have a working configuration, I'd like to see how you did it.

Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-17 Thread anhnmncb
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 06:30:58PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> That's one way of doing it, but I believe it will be slower in the long 
> run. You have to load the page, read it, and decide is anything of 
> interest is new. If so, you then have to emerge --sync anyway, so why 
> not just do it reasonably often anyway? And if you use eix and run 
> eix-sync instead of emerge --sync, then you also get a nice display of 
> all changes to the tree as soon as the the sync is done.
> 
> It is true that portage is a bit slow. If you are brave you can try 
> paludis (it's in the portage tree) as a replacement for portage - it's 
> claimed to be much faster. But, once again, it's relative: a large 
> update will still take many times as long to compile and install as 
> what it took portage to calculate what needs updating.
> 
> Or are you actually saying that the unpack/build/install cycle takes 
> much longer than installing an rpm or a deb? That can't be helped, 
> that's how compilation works.
Thanks very much, alan.
The infomation you gave is very helpful, so I know maybe emerge --sync
is one of best and reliable way to update, maybe it has some shortage,
but I think that's a gentoo's way, I'm in gentoo's world :-)
> 
> p.s. please don't top post
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Nick Rout

On Mon, April 16, 2007 11:48 pm, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> To install gentoo, the minimum you require is a running kernel, a
> network connection and a shell session. From there you chroot into the
> directory that is going to become your /, unpack a portage tree and
> binaries copies of some important apps, then emerge the rest.
>
> You don't have to use a gentoo CD for that, I've done it from a Red Hat
> rescue disk, a Knoppix disk and from a working Mandrake install. The
> gentoo CD does make life easier though if you run into trouble, as
> everything you will need will be on the disk and you don't have to hunt
> for stuff.

You do need a working chroot, which can be a problem on some rescue
floppies (if you are reduced to floppies).



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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage package.use

2007-04-17 Thread Richard Marz
That worked flawlessly. Thank you very much.


On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 05:15 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 April 2007 17:58:27 Richard Marz wrote:
> > It is it possible to glob an entire subdirectory in package.use. I'm
> > trying to stop portage from using the doc flag when installing java
> > development suites. I tried adding the following to my package.use file:
> > dev-java/* -doc
> > Then ran `emerge -uD world` and it attempted to download the jdk doc
> > file which totally stopped the whole update process half-way because the
> > ebuild doesn't support that because of possible licensing issues. Is
> > there any globbing allowed in the package.use file.
> 
> Nope. That leaves you two options that I'm aware of:
> 
> 1) Adding all packages currently in dev-java:
> 
> # { echo "# disable doc for all packages in dev-java" && \
> cd $(portageq portdir) && find dev-java -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d | 
> \
> sed 's/$/ -doc/'; } >> /etc/portage/package.use
> 
> 2) Switching to Paludis which does support wildcards (currently only in the 
> -scm
>version): http://ciaranm.org/show_post/114
> 
> If you go with 2) make sure to read the Paludis docs and faq at paludis.org...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage package.use

2007-04-17 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 17:58:27 Richard Marz wrote:
> It is it possible to glob an entire subdirectory in package.use. I'm
> trying to stop portage from using the doc flag when installing java
> development suites. I tried adding the following to my package.use file:
> dev-java/* -doc
> Then ran `emerge -uD world` and it attempted to download the jdk doc
> file which totally stopped the whole update process half-way because the
> ebuild doesn't support that because of possible licensing issues. Is
> there any globbing allowed in the package.use file.

Nope. That leaves you two options that I'm aware of:

1) Adding all packages currently in dev-java:

# { echo "# disable doc for all packages in dev-java" && \
cd $(portageq portdir) && find dev-java -mindepth 1 -maxdepth 1 -type d | \
sed 's/$/ -doc/'; } >> /etc/portage/package.use

2) Switching to Paludis which does support wildcards (currently only in the -scm
   version): http://ciaranm.org/show_post/114

If you go with 2) make sure to read the Paludis docs and faq at paludis.org...

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[gentoo-user] Portage package.use

2007-04-17 Thread Richard Marz
It is it possible to glob an entire subdirectory in package.use. I'm
trying to stop portage from using the doc flag when installing java
development suites. I tried adding the following to my package.use file:
dev-java/* -doc 
Then ran `emerge -uD world` and it attempted to download the jdk doc
file which totally stopped the whole update process half-way because the
ebuild doesn't support that because of possible licensing issues. Is
there any globbing allowed in the package.use file.


Thanks,
   Richard

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread William Kenworthy
On Tue, 2007-04-17 at 11:08 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
...
> These are irrelevant. As long as the CD boots, recognises your core
> hardware - which really comes down to disk controllers and network
> interfaces - and installs a working system, the rest can be updated
> post-install.

Unfortunately, 2006.1 wont even boot with increasing amounts of hardware
- and increasingly other distros LiveCD's do.  My last one was a catch
22 - earlier LiveCD's would boot, but no drivers for the network card,
and therefore no easy way to install.  (no floppy etc access as well :(
2006.1 doesnt fully boot as it loses the cdrom partway through the boot
process.

I ended up using the soon to be superseeded (if it isnt already) FC6
livecd - a pain.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packet Shaping

2007-04-17 Thread Grant

> It's actually my upload rate that's difficult to limit.  That's not
> inbound traffic right?

Right. You should be able to shape upload quite well. Did you try to
lower allowed upload bandwith further below the nominate bandwith?


I switched from The Wonder Shaper and started using shorewall configs
and it's working great.  I can't get ipp2p to identify bittorrent
traffic though, so I have the default set up for really low priority.
Thanks for your help!  This is fun.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Walker

fire-eyes wrote:

Neil Walker wrote:


Be lucky,

Neil


This is completely offtopic. But "Be lucky" made me think of the movie 
Demolition man, is this where you got it? In that case, the reply to 
that line was amusing :P





I've been using it since the early days of Fidonet. I don't think 
Demolition Man was around then. ;)



Be lucky,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Walker

Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:
I do not see how it is hard to create a minimal installation CD image 
every time new hardware support is added into the kernel, or new gcc 
version goes stable, or new portage version goes stable. 


How is any of that relevant to the minimal install CD? GGC, Portage, 
etc. come from the stage tarball you install. All the install CD does is 
boot the system - you can use any livecd for that. What is really 
needed, is updated stages.



Be lucky,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread fire-eyes

Neil Walker wrote:


Be lucky,

Neil


This is completely offtopic. But "Be lucky" made me think of the movie 
Demolition man, is this where you got it? In that case, the reply to 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Walker

Hamie wrote:

Hey thanks I'd never heard of it I'll give it a go

  


If you want to install Sabayon and stay with it without ever updating 
anything until the next Sabayon release, fine - but don't ever think 
that Sabayon is a quick and easy way to a working Gentoo system, it most 
certainly isn't. A simple "emerge -uavD world" will fail without hours 
of work.



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Re: [gentoo-user] symlinking device with udev

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
Hello maxim wexler,

> Google says create file
> /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
> containing the line
> 
> KERNEL=="parport0" NAME="lp0"
> 
> Which creates the device no problem. However
> /dev/parport0 is no more and

That's right, because you have told udev to give it the name lp0,
instead of parport0. what you want is

KERNEL=="parport0", SYMLINK="lp0"

See http://www.reactivated.net/udevrules.php


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[gentoo-user] symlinking device with udev

2007-04-17 Thread maxim wexler
Hi group,

New gentoo won't let me symlink device like so:

#ln -s /dev/parport0 /dev/lp0

Google says create file
/etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules
containing the line

KERNEL=="parport0" NAME="lp0"

Which creates the device no problem. However
/dev/parport0 is no more and

#udevinfo -a -p /dev/parport0

*and*

#udevinfot -a -p /dev/lp0

come up "device not found". Not complaining too
strenuously but curious. Is this normal behaviour? 
Seems strange. Why the actual device and no symlink?

Another thing: from 50-udev.rules
<...>
# lp devices
KERNEL=="lp*",  NAME="%k", GROUP="lp"
KERNEL=="irlpt",NAME="%k", GROUP="lp"
KERNEL=="usblp",NAME="%k", GROUP="lp"
KERNEL=="lp*",  NAME="%k", GROUP="lp"
KERNEL=="parport*", NAME="%k", GROUP="lp"
<...>

Why doesn't that last line take care of the problem.
Is it meant only as a template?


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Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?

2007-04-17 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 20:27:58 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > > Or change it for OOo builds only.  
> >
> > I keep forgetting to do stuff like that and only find out 4 hours into
> > an 8 hour emerge :-)
>
> I wonder if you could do this in /etc/portage/env?

You cannot. Setting CHECKREQS_ACTION="error" in /etc/make.conf should work 
though.

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Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 18:41:36 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> > Set PORTAGE_TMPDIR to somewhere where the space would be useful at
> > other times too, like /home.  
> 
> That's a good idea - I didn't think of that

No, I did - which means there's probably some hidden gotcha waiting in
it :(

> > Or change it for OOo builds only.   
> 
> I keep forgetting to do stuff like that and only find out 4 hours into 
> an 8 hour emerge :-)

I wonder if you could do this in /etc/portage/env?


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Re: [gentoo-user] no images displayed in Konqueror or Gwenview

2007-04-17 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Montag, 16. April 2007, Garry Smith wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> My Konqueror and Gwenview applications are not displaying images (no
> thumbnails or images displayed)
>
> Gwenview 1.3.1 (Using KDE 3.5.5)
>
> What library do I need to be looking at to get png, gif, jpeg support
> for these two applications?
>

you need to rebuild qt with support for all of them. Check your useflags!
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Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?

2007-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:46:08 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > I ask because I need to rezise my /var to minimize wasted space. I
> > know for sure I have remerged QT and mozilla (with USE= -gnome)
> > recently without problems with just over 1G free. I hate having 5G
> > lying there doing nothing until I remerge OOo :-)
>
> Set PORTAGE_TMPDIR to somewhere where the space would be useful at
> other times too, like /home.

That's a good idea - I didn't think of that

> Or change it for OOo builds only. 

I keep forgetting to do stuff like that and only find out 4 hours into 
an 8 hour emerge :-)

alan



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Re: [gentoo-user] no images displayed in Konqueror or Gwenview

2007-04-17 Thread Dave Jones
Hi Garry

Garry Smith wrote on 16/04/07 14:50:

> My Konqueror and Gwenview applications are not displaying images (no
> thumbnails or images displayed)

> Gwenview 1.3.1 (Using KDE 3.5.5)

> What library do I need to be looking at to get png, gif, jpeg support
> for these two applications?

You may need to increase your maximum file size for konqueror image preview.

konqueror -> settings -> configure konqueror -> Previews & Meta-Data ->
Maximum file size.

I've upped this to 3.6MB on my system to cope with the images from my 7
megapixel digicam.

The default maximum file size value is +- 1MB if I remember it right.

No idea about Gwenview though, sorry.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Howto get nvidia serial ATA with DMA running

2007-04-17 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Dienstag, 17. April 2007, Matthias Fechner wrote:
> Hello Volker,
>
> * Hemmann, Volker Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [17-04-07 
10:11]:
> > which is correct. You don't set dma for SATA devices and you don't do it
> > with hdparm.
>
> ah ok, thx for that information.
> But I have a problem. If I copy some data on disks the system is at a
> very high load and extremely slow (load at 2.5).
>
> If I record movies with VDR every recording is damaged (distortions).
>
> So I thought it is a problem of missing DMA.
>
> Is the SATA driver so bad and produces a such high CPU load?

Dunno, I am recording fine and sata is fast (uli based board, jmicron 
controller). There is a lot of stuff that can go wrong. IO-scheduler (which 
one are you using), preemption (don't use forced preemption), ticks... 

The lower the latency, the lower the troughput, for example
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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, anhnmncb wrote:
> Yes, maybe http://packages.gentoo.org/archs/x86/stable/ is what I
> want. Anyway, I still think the way gentoo uses for its package's
> database update is different with other distro, and seems a bit
> slower than others, err, I only used archlinux before.

That's one way of doing it, but I believe it will be slower in the long 
run. You have to load the page, read it, and decide is anything of 
interest is new. If so, you then have to emerge --sync anyway, so why 
not just do it reasonably often anyway? And if you use eix and run 
eix-sync instead of emerge --sync, then you also get a nice display of 
all changes to the tree as soon as the the sync is done.

It is true that portage is a bit slow. If you are brave you can try 
paludis (it's in the portage tree) as a replacement for portage - it's 
claimed to be much faster. But, once again, it's relative: a large 
update will still take many times as long to compile and install as 
what it took portage to calculate what needs updating.

Or are you actually saying that the unpack/build/install cycle takes 
much longer than installing an rpm or a deb? That can't be helped, 
that's how compilation works.

> And..., what I have said above will cause a war too?...

Maybe, maybe not :-)

alan

p.s. please don't top post


>
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 11:08:02AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Tuesday 17 April 2007, anhnmncb wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >   I just want to know another method to gain the latest x86
> > > stable branch's update info, nothing more else, what I have heard
> > > of I mensioned in the first thread really wasn't the point I
> > > wanted to make, so... can all of you ignore of it...
> > >
> > > Any way, thank you all;p
> >
> > Now that we've all had an interesting discussion on the side, maybe
> > we *should* get back to your original question :-)
> >
> > Did you get an answer/solution for it yet?
> >
> > --
> > Optimists say the glass is half full,
> > Pessimists say the glass is half empty,
> > Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be?
> >
> > Alan McKinnon
> > alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za
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[gentoo-user] Re: can not run Gizmo

2007-04-17 Thread Stefan Schweizer
you are on amd64 I suppose?


Otherwise you can get a gizmo emerged by doing the following steps:

emerge layman
layman -f -a sunrise
echo "source /usr/portage/local/layman/make.conf" >> /etc/make.conf
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 emerge gizmo

On amd64 someone yould need to look into the emul libs needed, likel from
your output you are mising some of the emul libs for x86 and are on amd64

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Re: [gentoo-user] ruby scripts for amarok won't run anymore

2007-04-17 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 16:48:11 Nistor Andrei wrote:
> > > Hi, after an emerge --depclean I noticed none of the ruby scripts work
> > > anymore. I get this error: "ruby: no such file to load -- auto_gem
> > > (LoadError)"
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how this can be fixed?
> >
> > (re-)emerge rubygems.
>
> It works! Thanks a lot! I wonder why revdep-rebuild didn't detect it?

Obviously because there are no broken libs. There is not even a dependency 
upon rubygems. There is, however, an environment variable 
RUBYOPT="-rauto_gem" that tells ruby to load auto_gem which obviously fails 
when --depclean just uninstalled it. Clearly one solution is to reinstall it 
as you've done. Another solution is to stop telling it to load it as 
explained in another post to this thread...

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Re: [gentoo-user] ruby scripts for amarok won't run anymore

2007-04-17 Thread Nistor Andrei
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 17. April 2007 schrieb ext Nistor Andrei:
> > Hi, after an emerge --depclean I noticed none of the ruby scripts work
> > anymore. I get this error: "ruby: no such file to load -- auto_gem
> > (LoadError)"
> >
> > Does anyone know how this can be fixed?
>
> (re-)emerge rubygems.
>
It works! Thanks a lot! I wonder why revdep-rebuild didn't detect it?
> HTH...
>
>   Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Howto get nvidia serial ATA with DMA running

2007-04-17 Thread Jerry McBride
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 08:22:23 am Daniel Iliev wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:37:28 +0200
>
> May be it's a io-scheduling issue. This topic from the forums
> could be helpful: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-462230.html
>

Daniel... the post you made wasn't directed tome, but I benefited from it 
greatly. Thanks for the info...


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Re: [gentoo-user] ruby scripts for amarok won't run anymore

2007-04-17 Thread Nistor Andrei
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:55:59 +0300, Nistor Andrei wrote:
> > Hi, after an emerge --depclean I noticed none of the ruby scripts work
> > anymore. I get this error: "ruby: no such file to load -- auto_gem
> > (LoadError)"
>
> Have you run revdep-rebuild?
I've tried revdep-rebuild, but the scripts still won't work. I'm re-emerging 
rubygems now...

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Re: [gentoo-user] ruby scripts for amarok won't run anymore

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:55:59 +0300, Nistor Andrei wrote:

> Hi, after an emerge --depclean I noticed none of the ruby scripts work 
> anymore. I get this error: "ruby: no such file to load -- auto_gem 
> (LoadError)"

Have you run revdep-rebuild?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 15:30:14 +0400, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:

> >> I do not see how it is hard to create a minimal installation CD image
> >> every time new hardware support is added into the kernel,
> >
> > Then do it. Open source gives you the opportunity to make things
> > happen yourself instead of whining that others won't do it. The build
> > tools are in portage, so there's nothing stopping anyone from
> > producing an updated minimal install CD, as has already been posted
> > to the forums.
> >
> 
> Sorry, where do you see whining?

Sorry, that came across as rather harsh. It was intended as a general
comment, not a criticism of you.

> Even if I say that if whatever posted
> to forums is good then it should go to the official Gentoo site, this
> would not be whining.

No, but it would not be practical either, because an official release
needs a lot more testing.

> Once again, there should be some problem with my English. It is
> official Gentoo release policy to have minimal, live, and platform
> releases in sync. Posting a new image to forums is not that tightly
> related to policies.

No it's not, and I never suggested it was. As an Open Source project,
ANYONE can build a new, unofficial image that supports brand new
hardware. They don't need to wait for the full releng cycle of testing on
all packages.

> This very thread, as explained in my post, is just
> one reason to change the policy.

Then you should file a bug suggesting this.

> >> or new gcc
> >> version goes stable, or new portage version goes stable.
> >
> > These are irrelevant. As long as the CD boots, recognises your core
> > hardware - which really comes down to disk controllers and network
> > interfaces - and installs a working system, the rest can be updated
> > post-install.
> >
> 
> No, GCC and portage are relevant. The fact that the installation
> process succeeds does not help much when a new user, just after
> downloading the latest and greatest, has to recompile something as
> basic and huge as GCC or just interrupt the install getting the scary
> message "you better do nothing until you upgrade Portage".

Whatever is included, something big will have a new version by the time
the full install has been comprehensively tested on all supported
platforms and put on the mirrors for a week. A Gentoo install is supposed
to give you a working system that is a starting point, not an end in
itself.

The only time a new install disc is really necessary is when the old one
doesn't support your hardware.

> > A major GCC update is the exception to this rule, but that is
> > precisely the sort of thing that needs extensive testing on a range
> > of platforms rather than a rushed release.

> Just in case you already deleted my post, I recommend new minimal CD  
> release each time a new GCC version, major or not, goes stable.

I still maintain that minor GCC upgrades are not an issue, kernel
upgrades are far more relevant as that is where most hardware support
takes place. Why do you consider a GCC upgrade such a big deal? After a
Stage 3 install, you are likely to want to do an emerge -e world anyway,
to apply your customisations, so GCC will probably be recompiled anyway.
As long as the latest stable version is not incompatible with the CD,
what's the big deal?

> What extra testing does a stable version need?

To ensure that everything works as a cohesive whole.


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Re: [gentoo-user] ruby scripts for amarok won't run anymore

2007-04-17 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 14:55:59 Nistor Andrei wrote:
> Hi, after an emerge --depclean I noticed none of the ruby scripts work
> anymore. I get this error: "ruby: no such file to load -- auto_gem
> (LoadError)"
>
> Does anyone know how this can be fixed?

# unset RUBYOPT

And make sure /etc/env.d/10rubygems has been removed and env-update has been 
run... You'll have to unset it in every terminal from which you want to run 
ruby apps until you've restarted X at least..

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[gentoo-user] Gnome gets stuck on "opening file" or "browsing"

2007-04-17 Thread J.S.

Hi!

I use gnome 2.16.2 stable but I have a little problem while using some 
apps. The problem starts in just some applications when I am triying to 
"Open file" or "Browse" ( actually browsing folders ) , the effect is 
that the program gets stuck waiting for the "browse window" to open. 
I've seen this effect in VmWare or Cedega Transgaming, among others. If 
I use the same program and do the same thing with KDE or XFCE it works 
well, but since Gnome is my prefered desktop, I find it very frustrating 
to restart X and change desktop every time I need these apps.


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[gentoo-user] ruby scripts for amarok won't run anymore

2007-04-17 Thread Nistor Andrei
Hi, after an emerge --depclean I noticed none of the ruby scripts work 
anymore. I get this error: "ruby: no such file to load -- auto_gem 
(LoadError)"

Does anyone know how this can be fixed?
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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-17 Thread anhnmncb
Yes, maybe http://packages.gentoo.org/archs/x86/stable/ is what I want.
Anyway, I still think the way gentoo uses for its package's database
update is different with other distro, and seems a bit slower than
others, err, I only used archlinux before. 
And..., what I have said above will cause a war too?...
On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 11:08:02AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tuesday 17 April 2007, anhnmncb wrote:
> > Hello,
> >   I just want to know another method to gain the latest x86 stable
> > branch's update info, nothing more else, what I have heard of I
> > mensioned in the first thread really wasn't the point I wanted to
> > make, so... can all of you ignore of it...
> >
> > Any way, thank you all;p
> 
> Now that we've all had an interesting discussion on the side, maybe we 
> *should* get back to your original question :-)
> 
> Did you get an answer/solution for it yet?
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Howto get nvidia serial ATA with DMA running

2007-04-17 Thread Daniel Iliev
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:37:28 +0200
Matthias Fechner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello Volker,
> 
> * Hemmann, Volker Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> [17-04-07 10:11]:
> > which is correct. You don't set dma for SATA devices and you don't
> > do it with hdparm.
> 
> ah ok, thx for that information.
> But I have a problem. If I copy some data on disks the system is at a
> very high load and extremely slow (load at 2.5).
> 
> If I record movies with VDR every recording is damaged (distortions).
> 
> So I thought it is a problem of missing DMA.
> 
> Is the SATA driver so bad and produces a such high CPU load?
> 
> Best regards,
> Matthias
> 

May be it's a io-scheduling issue. This topic from the forums
could be helpful: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-462230.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] ruby scripts for amarok won't run anymore

2007-04-17 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 17. April 2007 schrieb ext Nistor Andrei:
> Hi, after an emerge --depclean I noticed none of the ruby scripts work
> anymore. I get this error: "ruby: no such file to load -- auto_gem
> (LoadError)"
>
> Does anyone know how this can be fixed?

(re-)emerge rubygems.

HTH...

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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA kernel messages

2007-04-17 Thread sain yan

From ChangeLog-2.6.20.7-


commit c23bbe5978f98e7ae3a41f13dbf48d70c6651573
Author: Conke Hu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:   Tue Apr 10 13:06:56 2007 -0400

   ahci.c: walkaround for SB600 SATA internal error issue

   ahci.c: walkaround for SB600 SATA internal error issue

  There is a HW issue in ATI SB600 SATA that PxSERR.E should not be
   set on some conditions, for example, when there is no media in SATA
   CD/DVD drive or media is not ready, AHCI controller fails to execute
   ATAPI commands and reports PORT_IRQ_TF_ERR, but ATI SB600 SATA
   controller sets PxSERR.E at the
   same time, which is not necessary.
   This patch is just to ignore the INTERNAL ERROR in such case.
   Without this patch, ahci error handler will report many errors as
   below:
   --- cut from dmesg ---
   ata9: soft resetting port
   ata9: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
   ata9.00: configured for UDMA/33
   ata9: EH complete
   ata9.00: exception Emask 0x40 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x800 action 0x2
   ata9.00: (irq_stat 0x4001)
   ata9.00: cmd a0/00:00:00:00:20/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 cdb 0x0 data 0
   res 51/24:03:00:00:20/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x40 (internal
error)
   ata9: soft resetting port
   ata9: SATA link up 1.5 Gbps (SStatus 113 SControl 300)
   ata9.00: configured for UDMA/33
   ata9: EH complete
   ata9.00: exception Emask 0x40 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x800 action 0x2
   ata9.00: (irq_stat 0x4001)
   ata9.00: cmd a0/01:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 cdb 0x43 data 12
in
   res 51/24:03:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 Emask 0x40 (internal
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[gentoo-user] can not run Gizmo

2007-04-17 Thread arnuld

i usually use Skype most of the time, as it is the only thing
available for Voice-Chat on Gentoo Linux. but these days i am having
problems with the Skype sound quality. so i downloaded the Gizmo and
Wengophone binaries but they do not run :-( this is from my terminal:


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ .binaries/gizmo/gizmo-run
.binaries/gizmo/gizmo: error while loading shared libraries:
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or
directory


BUT the library it is reported missing is right there on my system:

Code:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ ls /usr/lib | grep libgtk
libgtk-1.2.so.0
libgtk-1.2.so.0.9.1
libgtk-x11-2.0.la
libgtk-x11-2.0.so
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0
libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1000.9
libgtk.a
libgtk.la
libgtk.so
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $


same trouble with Wengophone. how to make it run. i used to run the
same binaries on Arch Linux but Gentoo can not run them, any idea ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Andrey Gerasimenko
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 14:08:49 +0400, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
wrote:



On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:26:23 +0400, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:


I do not see how it is hard to create a minimal installation CD image
every time new hardware support is added into the kernel,


Then do it. Open source gives you the opportunity to make things happen
yourself instead of whining that others won't do it. The build tools are
in portage, so there's nothing stopping anyone from producing an updated
minimal install CD, as has already been posted to the forums.



Sorry, where do you see whining? Even if I say that if whatever posted to  
forums is good then it should go to the official Gentoo site, this would  
not be whining.


Once again, there should be some problem with my English. It is official  
Gentoo release policy to have minimal, live, and platform releases in  
sync. Posting a new image to forums is not that tightly related to  
policies. This very thread, as explained in my post, is just one reason to  
change the policy.


I agree that if I become a Gentoo developer and use developer mailing  
lists then the chances for the change are better.



or new gcc
version goes stable, or new portage version goes stable.


These are irrelevant. As long as the CD boots, recognises your core
hardware - which really comes down to disk controllers and network
interfaces - and installs a working system, the rest can be updated
post-install.



No, GCC and portage are relevant. The fact that the installation process  
succeeds does not help much when a new user, just after downloading the  
latest and greatest, has to recompile something as basic and huge as GCC  
or just interrupt the install getting the scary message "you better do  
nothing until you upgrade Portage".



A major GCC update is the exception to this rule, but that is precisely
the sort of thing that needs extensive testing on a range of platforms
rather than a rushed release.




Just in case you already deleted my post, I recommend new minimal CD  
release each time a new GCC version, major or not, goes stable. What extra  
testing does a stable version need?


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-17 Thread arnuld

On 4/16/07, Bryan Whitehead <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Nearly 28. Been using gentoo since version 1.0 (maybe pre-1.0 but can't
remember).

I started using linux back when slackware fit on a bunch of 5.25" floppies.


ooohhh you are an old time Linux user.  i am 26 and i started
using Linux 1.5 years ago with Fedora Core 3 and did dual-boot my
system with Windows XP and after 6 months i got rid of that crappy OS
and made my system fully GNU(ish) . it was Celeron 600 MHz . i loved
GNOME too much at that time.

after some months, i had some trouble with my new D-Link router and
felt totally frustrated when i tried Fedora's sysconfig GUI tools and
for the 1st time in my life  i got a chance to meet my 1st
configuration text file "/etc/resolv.conf", next one i hit was
"/etc/hosts". it was really difficult and coool  at the same time
because i felt i am controlling my machine which was never possible
with Windows. after some more time passed, i installed Debian and used
it over a long time and just 3 months ago i started hating Desktop
things, i looked into some other distros and used many: gnewSense,
KATEOS, SOURCEMAGE, Lunar, Arch and lots of others and my hatred
towards Desktop based system grew in large proportions. i tried Gentoo
this time and did quit, it looked too weired to me,  finally i landed
with Arch and ran Xfce on the top of it as Arch Linux forces a user to
manage his system using command-line tools BUT that was not what i was
looking for. it seems like i had "the GNU OS effect" a.k.a "the UNIX
effect" a.k.a "command-line addiction" wired into me and when i read
this:

http://ironphoenix.org/tril/fvwm/

i came to know i was not the only one, so i finally quit the Xfce and
landed onto Window Maker on Arch. i was not satisfied yet and my
journey reached at Gentoo Linux, NO Xfce, NO GNOME no GUI tools
and menus. i feel good now, i am running Window Maker for now but
will switch to another Window Manager where i will make design-use by
own hands, like FVWM, IceWM or Sawfish,i am just reading the different
articles on these.  i think one day i will land on GNU Screen with
RatPoison  but for now a Window Manager will rule:-)



I now work full time at a startup in the silicon valley watching over 4
datacenters full of CentOS machines (and some Solaris).



good got any job for me there...  ;-)

may be i could make some money and buy an LCD monitor, for keeping
eyes n good condition


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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:33:18 -0500, Dale wrote:

> > A major GCC update is the exception to this rule, but that is
> > precisely the sort of thing that needs extensive testing on a range
> > of platforms rather than a rushed release.

> That was what I was referring too.  It would be time consuming to
> install then turn right around and have to upgrade gcc and do a emerge
> -e world etc etc etc.

The time taken is irrelevant, because the computer is still usable while
the emerge is running in the background. The important point is that
everything builds with the new GCC on all supported platforms. That's the
sort of thing that takes the time.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Howto get nvidia serial ATA with DMA running

2007-04-17 Thread Matthias Fechner
Hello Volker,

* Hemmann, Volker Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [17-04-07 10:11]:
> which is correct. You don't set dma for SATA devices and you don't do it with 
> hdparm.

ah ok, thx for that information.
But I have a problem. If I copy some data on disks the system is at a
very high load and extremely slow (load at 2.5).

If I record movies with VDR every recording is damaged (distortions).

So I thought it is a problem of missing DMA.

Is the SATA driver so bad and produces a such high CPU load?

Best regards,
Matthias

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> A major GCC update is the exception to this rule, but that is precisely
> the sort of thing that needs extensive testing on a range of platforms
> rather than a rushed release.
>
>   

That was what I was referring too.  It would be time consuming to
install then turn right around and have to upgrade gcc and do a emerge
-e world etc etc etc.

Again, I see that this can be a difficult thing to balance and it would
not be easy to keep it balanced. 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Packet Shaping

2007-04-17 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 15:19:14 -0700 Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It's actually my upload rate that's difficult to limit.  That's not
> inbound traffic right?

Right. You should be able to shape upload quite well. Did you try to
lower allowed upload bandwith further below the nominate bandwith?

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Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 11:46:08 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> I ask because I need to rezise my /var to minimize wasted space. I know 
> for sure I have remerged QT and mozilla (with USE= -gnome) recently 
> without problems with just over 1G free. I hate having 5G lying there 
> doing nothing until I remerge OOo :-)

Set PORTAGE_TMPDIR to somewhere where the space would be useful at other
times too, like /home. Or change it for OOo builds only.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:26:23 +0400, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:

> I do not see how it is hard to create a minimal installation CD image  
> every time new hardware support is added into the kernel,

Then do it. Open source gives you the opportunity to make things happen
yourself instead of whining that others won't do it. The build tools are
in portage, so there's nothing stopping anyone from producing an updated
minimal install CD, as has already been posted to the forums.

> or new gcc  
> version goes stable, or new portage version goes stable.

These are irrelevant. As long as the CD boots, recognises your core
hardware - which really comes down to disk controllers and network
interfaces - and installs a working system, the rest can be updated
post-install.

A major GCC update is the exception to this rule, but that is precisely
the sort of thing that needs extensive testing on a range of platforms
rather than a rushed release.


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Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?

2007-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Wayne Oliver wrote:
> > Going slightly OT here, but does anyone know which ebuilds are the
> > big ones using lots of space in /var/tmp when compiling? Apart from
> > OOo that is :-)
> >
> > alan
>
> Just guessing now I would add QT and Mozilla.

I ask because I need to rezise my /var to minimize wasted space. I know 
for sure I have remerged QT and mozilla (with USE= -gnome) recently 
without problems with just over 1G free. I hate having 5G lying there 
doing nothing until I remerge OOo :-)

So I'm considering keeping about 1G free for /var/tmp and switching to 
openoffice-bin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Andrey Gerasimenko

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:50:23 +0400, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:


I agree that "the installation CD does not need to be specifically a
Gentoo cd", but I believe that it should be always possible to use it
for installation, even when workarounds are available. The only
argument that explains why it is currently not the fact is the
inability to sustain quarterly release schedule. It looks like
everybody, me too, agrees that it is a very good reason to switch to
semi-annual releases, but  please note that the very fact that
quarterly releases were started is a proof that they are desirable.

I guess the problem here is that the Gentoo Minimal Installation CD
release is linked to the Gentoo Installer LiveCD release and to the
Gentoo Reference Platform release. If the minimal CD is released
quarterly or, better, whenever new hardware hits the shelves, the
experience of new Gentoo users will be better.

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Even though I would like to see semi-annual releases, I can also
understand the effort that has to go into making it happen.  You would
have to catch everything just right to make it worthwhile.  Example, it
is time for a new release and gcc is almost ready to be marked stable.
Do you do the release anyway or wait until gcc is stable?  What if it is
not as stable as people think and it is already released before that is
found out?  That would not be good for Gentoo either.

Add in that some new piece of hardware is coming out and the drivers are
being worked on but not yet finished.  Then what?  What if the packages
such as gcc, KDE, Gnome and other important ones and the newer hardware
drivers never sync up exactly right?  Who would decide what is more
important, hardware drivers or packages?

I can see this from both sides.  Having a reasonably up to date install
CD would be nice but it would take some effort and planning to get it
there.  I suspect the new Proctors would be all over Gentoo-dev.  LOL
That could turn into a really long discussion and it would never end
really.  By the time one is released it would be time to start planning
the next and may even overlap a lot too.

I'm glad I'm a lowly user and not a dev.  :-)

Dale



Sorry for the long quote, it all looks equally relevant (or irrelevant).

There should be some problem with my English. I understand and agree with  
your arguments and even, I hope, have explained that in the original post.  
However, they are valid for the Gentoo Installer LiveCD and the Reference  
Platform only. The Gentoo Minimal Installation CD has much less packages  
and it is much easier to update it.


I do not see how it is hard to create a minimal installation CD image  
every time new hardware support is added into the kernel, or new gcc  
version goes stable, or new portage version goes stable. Whether this is  
desirable or quarterly releases are sufficient is another question, since  
too many versions may confuse new users.


The problem is that currently the minimal CD, the Live CD, and the  
Reference Platform are released simultaneously. I guess the minimal CD  
should be numbered like 2006.1, 2006.1.u1, 2006.1.u2, 2007.0.p1,  
2007.0.p2, 2007.0, 2007.0.u1 and so on and released as necessary between  
full releases.


I feel it is harder to fix the relevant Handbook and web site entries and,  
possibly, ensure that it gets to all the mirrors than to prepare the new  
CD image.



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RE: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?

2007-04-17 Thread Wayne Oliver
> -Original Message-
> From: Alan McKinnon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 17 April 2007 11:01
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with
> gentoo?
> 
> On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > The last time I looked, portage compiles were Gentoo-specific too.
If
> > you want to change where portage uses for its workspace, it is much
> > safer to use the provided configuration settings than move the whole
> > of a system-critical directory to an unreliable medium.
> 
> Going slightly OT here, but does anyone know which ebuilds are the big
> ones using lots of space in /var/tmp when compiling? Apart from OOo
> that is :-)
> 
> alan

Just guessing now I would add QT and Mozilla.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, anhnmncb wrote:
> Hello,
>   I just want to know another method to gain the latest x86 stable
> branch's update info, nothing more else, what I have heard of I
> mensioned in the first thread really wasn't the point I wanted to
> make, so... can all of you ignore of it...
>
> Any way, thank you all;p

Now that we've all had an interesting discussion on the side, maybe we 
*should* get back to your original question :-)

Did you get an answer/solution for it yet?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT im more just curious

2007-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 13 April 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is the average age of the gentoo user here?
> Sent via BlackBerry® from Vodafone

I recently hit the ideal age for any geek:

42

I think I'm going to stay this age from now on. Moving to 43 is such a 
let-down after being 42 for an entire year

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Re: [gentoo-user] create an installable custom distro with gentoo?

2007-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 17 April 2007, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> The last time I looked, portage compiles were Gentoo-specific too. If
> you want to change where portage uses for its workspace, it is much
> safer to use the provided configuration settings than move the whole
> of a system-critical directory to an unreliable medium.

Going slightly OT here, but does anyone know which ebuilds are the big 
ones using lots of space in /var/tmp when compiling? Apart from OOo 
that is :-)

alan


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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Hamie
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 08:41, Rumen Yotov wrote:
> Hi,

[deleted]

> > H
>
> Don't want to seem i recommend it, but you can try the Sabayon-miniCD
> for a new install.
> Don't know how actual the kernel/userspace are but in all cases newer
> then 2006.1.
> It's a Gentoo-based (slightly modified) distro.
> A good thing is it updates it's install-CDs quite often.

Hey thanks I'd never heard of it I'll give it a go

regards
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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 16 April 2007, Thomas Tuttle wrote:
> > Seriously, I spend half my days on support debunking just this kind
> > of twaddle.
>
> ...and scaring off users who passed it (probably just because they
> misunderstood or misinterpreted something) by replying like this.
>
> Please, be nice.

Oh, I have no problem with the OP's (anhnmncb) post at all - he's 
obviously been given wrong information by someone else. He even hints 
in his post that he's not sure if he should take it seriously or not. 
So I'm quite happy to give him the correct facts, but I didn't need to 
as several other people had already done it before me.

I do have a problem with whoever gave him that wrong information. The 
only effective way to handle utter BS at the source is to call it as 
BS. It's rarely nice.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Howto get nvidia serial ATA with DMA running

2007-04-17 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
Hi,

On Dienstag, 17. April 2007, Matthias Fechner wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have here an AMD64 (32-bit installation) with a MSI K8N-Neo2FX
> running.
> Gentoo is installed on a serial ATA drive.
> lspci says:
> 00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK8S Serial ATA Controller (v2.5)
> (rev a2) 00:0a.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK8S Serial ATA
> Controller (v2.5) (rev a2) 00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3
> 250Gb AGP Host to PCI Bridge (rev a2) 00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia
> Corporation nForce3 250Gb PCI-to-PCI Bridge (rev a2)
>
> I i try now to enable DMA transfer with:
> hdparm -d1 /dev/sda
> /dev/sda:
>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device

which is correct. You don't set dma for SATA devices and you don't do it with 
hdparm.

>
> So my first thought was, check kernel for the right driver.
> But nv_sata is selected (statically).
>
> I checked dmesg and found:
> nv_sata: Primary device added
> nv_sata: Primary device removed
> nv_sata: Secondary device removed
> ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/133

as you can see, it uses udma/133 already.

> scsi0 : sata_nv
> ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0)
> scsi1 : sata_nv
>   Vendor: ATA   Model: ST3250820NS   Rev: 3.AE
>   Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 05
> SCSI device sda: 488397168 512-byte hdwr sectors (250059 MB)
> sda: Write Protect is off
> sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
> SCSI device sda: 488397168 512-byte hdwr sectors (250059 MB)
> sda: Write Protect is off
> sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
> SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
>  sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4
> sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda
>
> I boot my system with grub and had the option from the installer
> "doscsi" in the boot params.
>
> Must I use a different driver for that sata controller?

No.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Rumen Yotov
Hi,
On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 16:52:42 +0100
Hamie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sunday 15 April 2007 07:37, Dale wrote:
> > Norberto Bensa wrote:
> > > Daniel da Veiga wrote:
> > >> On 4/15/07, Norberto Bensa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> Not true. 2006.1 doesn't boot on my hardware.
> > >
> > > ...
> > >
> > >>> We (I) need 2007.0 ASAP.
> > >>
> > >> Just get any old version (that works),
> > >
> > > That's the point. None works. The media needs kernel 2.6.18 or
> > > better.
> > >
> > > I can use Knoppix or Ubuntu, but that's not the point.
> >
> > Maybe some are not understanding the point he is making.  If I
> > understand correctly, he needs a newer release so that when he
> > boots the CD to do a install, it will see his hardware.  It would
> > appear that the
> 
> The same thing happens on my laptop as well (Thinkpad Z61m,
> core2Duo). The Gentoo boot disks just don't have the drivers. I had
> to boot a Knoppix disk, install that, then do gentoo as a chroot...
> Which was a REAL nightmare because the knoppix was 32bit & I wanted a
> 64-bit install (It took messing around with a kernel from a ~amd64
> desktop manually copied over as well before I could get gentoo
> installed correctly).
> 
> H
Don't want to seem i recommend it, but you can try the Sabayon-miniCD
for a new install.
Don't know how actual the kernel/userspace are but in all cases newer
then 2006.1.
It's a Gentoo-based (slightly modified) distro.
A good thing is it updates it's install-CDs quite often.
HTH. Rumen
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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I know which package needs to upgrade without using emerge --sync?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:14:48 +, anhnmncb wrote:

>   I just want to know another method to gain the latest x86 stable
> branch's update info,

packages.gentoo.org has an RSS feed.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Why is the latest release 2006.1?

2007-04-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:26:20 +0400, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:

> It looks like everybody, me too, agrees that  
> it is a very good reason to switch to semi-annual releases, but
> please note that the very fact that quarterly releases were started is
> a proof that they are desirable.

All it proves is that releng thought it was a good idea at the time,
until they tried to achieve it :(


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[gentoo-user] Howto get nvidia serial ATA with DMA running

2007-04-17 Thread Matthias Fechner
Hi,

I have here an AMD64 (32-bit installation) with a MSI K8N-Neo2FX
running.
Gentoo is installed on a serial ATA drive.
lspci says:
00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK8S Serial ATA Controller (v2.5) 
(rev a2)
00:0a.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation CK8S Serial ATA Controller (v2.5) 
(rev a2)
00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb AGP Host to PCI Bridge 
(rev a2)
00:0e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 250Gb PCI-to-PCI Bridge (rev a2)

I i try now to enable DMA transfer with:
hdparm -d1 /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
 setting using_dma to 1 (on)
 HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device

So my first thought was, check kernel for the right driver.
But nv_sata is selected (statically).

I checked dmesg and found:
nv_sata: Primary device added
nv_sata: Primary device removed
nv_sata: Secondary device removed
ata1: dev 0 configured for UDMA/133
scsi0 : sata_nv
ata2: SATA link down (SStatus 0)
scsi1 : sata_nv
  Vendor: ATA   Model: ST3250820NS   Rev: 3.AE
  Type:   Direct-Access  ANSI SCSI revision: 05
SCSI device sda: 488397168 512-byte hdwr sectors (250059 MB)
sda: Write Protect is off
sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
SCSI device sda: 488397168 512-byte hdwr sectors (250059 MB)
sda: Write Protect is off
sda: Mode Sense: 00 3a 00 00
SCSI device sda: drive cache: write back
 sda: sda1 sda2 sda3 sda4
sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi disk sda

I boot my system with grub and had the option from the installer
"doscsi" in the boot params.

Must I use a different driver for that sata controller?

Thx a lot for help,
Matthias

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