[gentoo-user] Re: Wha' hoppen to firestarter?

2007-06-05 Thread Ali Polatel
Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> yazmış:
> Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> > I had firestarter-1.0.3 emerged for quite some time.  I hadn't really
> > used it, but I'm a bit surprised now to find that it's interfering
> > with normal emerges because it's got a big red "M" smacked on it.
> >
> > I suppose that means there's a problem with it, and it's explained in
> > some forum or list that I don't normally get.  But now I'd like a
> > clue: what's the {prognosis, workaround, fix, alternative}. As I
> > mentioned, I hadn't really started to use it, but I'd like to have a
> > better firewall tool than building iptables scripts in vim.
> >
> 
> This is from the Gentoo dev list.
> 

> 
> So, if you like firestarter, better say something pretty soon.  ;-)
> 
> That help any??
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)  :-)

 Upstream is dead and there are many open bugs so it's a PITA to
maintain. Here are the open bugs about firestarter:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=146620
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179792
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180104
http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180105

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wha' hoppen to firestarter?

2007-06-05 Thread Dale
Kevin O'Gorman wrote:
> I had firestarter-1.0.3 emerged for quite some time.  I hadn't really
> used it, but I'm a bit surprised now to find that it's interfering
> with normal emerges because it's got a big red "M" smacked on it.
>
> I suppose that means there's a problem with it, and it's explained in
> some forum or list that I don't normally get.  But now I'd like a
> clue: what's the {prognosis, workaround, fix, alternative}. As I
> mentioned, I hadn't really started to use it, but I'd like to have a
> better firewall tool than building iptables scripts in vim.
>

This is from the Gentoo dev list.

> The upstream development for firestarter has been dead for some time
> (last news update Jul 31 2005).  Recent changes to the netfilter code
> in the kernel have caused firestarter not to work (see bug #179792).
> That bug has a patch that fixes that particular problem but the fact that
> upstream is dead, the several other open bugs about firestarter and the
> fact that I no longer use it myself mean I'm masking it for removal.
>
> I feel there are several good alternatives in net-firewall/ to use as
> replacements for the iptables-generating aspect of firestarter.  If
> someone
> would like to pick up and maintain this package, they're welcome to it,
> otherwise, I'll remove it in thirty days.
>
> Michael Sterrett
>   -Mr. Bones.- 

So, if you like firestarter, better say something pretty soon.  ;-)

That help any??

Dale

:-)  :-)  :-)

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[gentoo-user] Wha' hoppen to firestarter?

2007-06-05 Thread Kevin O'Gorman

I had firestarter-1.0.3 emerged for quite some time.  I hadn't really
used it, but I'm a bit surprised now to find that it's interfering
with normal emerges because it's got a big red "M" smacked on it.

I suppose that means there's a problem with it, and it's explained in
some forum or list that I don't normally get.  But now I'd like a
clue: what's the {prognosis, workaround, fix, alternative}. As I
mentioned, I hadn't really started to use it, but I'd like to have a
better firewall tool than building iptables scripts in vim.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-05 Thread burlingk
Ok, my two cents on the matter.

I am still new enough to the community to be considered an outsider,
so here is an outsider's perspective.  I hope not to step on toes, 
but it will probably happen anyway.

First:  Cosmetic things, i.e. user interface issues, pretty pictures, 
and things that effect the overall look and feel.

If they do not stop the program from functioning, they are not high 
priority.  It may be agitating to look at, but it is not a bug.
However,
This does not prevent you from putting in feedback, or even working
on patches to change the offending behavior.  Just don't expect cosmetic
issues to be high priority to anyone other than the person submitting
the feedback.  There honestly are things out there that are thoroughly
broken that need to be repaired first.  I am guessing however that in
the case of emerge, if you understand python (or even know enough to
pick
through the code a bit) that you can probably fix the issue yourself,
and 
submit the fix.
:-)

Second:  Bug reports for real bugs.
Bug reports need to be thorough.  If they do not provide enough
information
to reproduce a bug, or at least explain exactly what is going on, then
it is
hard for the developers and bug squashers to do anything about it.  It
may
seem to you like they are "not doing their job" by not researching it,
then
conceder this.  When you submit a bug, it is YOUR bug, not theirs.  You
have
the primary responsibility for making sure they know what you are
talking about.
In the case listed in this thread, when the second bug was submitted
including
a more thorough description, and the research that had been done, it was
taken care of promptly.  A bug report is a good thing, but if they can't
reproduce it, and don't have enough information to know what the problem
is,
they can't fix it.

Third, and maybe most important:  Configuration Issues.
Many developers try to make sure to cover as many bases as they can when
it comes to developing their software.  For many applications, the vast
majority of users will have a fairly standard setup.  While this is not
always the case, you need to conceder that many open source and free
software
applications are written first and foremost for the needs of the author.
While this may sound a little callous or selfish, remember one thing.
Free And Open Source Software is developed by volonteers, who also have
real world jobs and lives.  They develop tools that make their lives
easier, and they share.  They do not all have thousands of dollars to
spend
on investigating every possible platform that their program may be
expected
to run on.  Mounting your config files for firefox from a coda file
system
is far from standard in anyone's books.  If you know how to add that
functionality without breaking anything that is already there, then
write
the patch and submit it.  If not, then submit a thurough bug report, or 
a general request in the appropriate forums or mainling lists.  Let them
know exactly what your problem is, and what you would like done.  Be
polite,
and be patient.  If they do not bite the first try, it is not a personal
snub.

Most of us have never run into problems with firefox.  And honestly, if
the
idea of creating a new profile would not work for you, then recreating
your firefox directory, with "physical" copies of the symlinked files
would
do the trick as well.  I know that does not address the issue of running
the
Config files from a coda system, but it would get things working under 
normal circumstances.

I have lurked long enough to see a number of posts complaining about the
bug
Tracking system.  In most cases the people complaining were hateful and
said
very little that was useful.  They generaly stuck to name calling and
the like.
This is not to say they all did, but most. :/  I am sure that eventually
I will
have to submit a bug, and I may find myself having to hold my tongue to
apply
what I have seen here, but I will try to be understanding about it.

To be honest, this is probably not the forum to complain about bug
reports.
Complaining about bugs is probably not bad though.  It might be a good
source
of feedback to see if other people are having the same problem, or at
least
to get a general idea of how to format and word your bug before you
actually
submit it. ^_^

Basic summary:
There are a lot of tools at your disposal.  Know them, use them, love
them. :)
If you have problems with one of those tools, by all means ask
questions. :)
The Free Software and Open Source communities are run primarily by
volonteers.
Remember that when you are deciding how to approach them.  Imagine if
you just 
sunk three years into a project, and suddenly someone started attacking
you 
because it didn't work perfectly on their system.
Remember, bug reports take time.  Track your bug, update your bug, make
sure to
keep the bug propperly fed or it might die.

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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Jean-Baptiste Mestelan

Not sure if you will like these, but did you try :
- quodlibet,
- exaile ?

Cheers !

On 6/4/07, Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really liked
the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off portage.
Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it seems more
fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but on this box, I
am just having no luck getting it to run without errors (won't read
audio CD, master volume control is not functional, playlist errors on
start-up... )  I'm looking for something with a GUI rather than a
command-line player.

Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Henk Boom

On 04/06/07, Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really liked
the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off portage.
Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it seems more
fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but on this box, I
am just having no luck getting it to run without errors (won't read
audio CD, master volume control is not functional, playlist errors on
start-up... )  I'm looking for something with a GUI rather than a
command-line player.


I had a similar issue, though the reason I had for not liking
audacious had more to do with it's atrocious memory usage. I
eventually settled on MPD (music player daemon) coupled with Sonata.
MPD requires a small amount of setup, but it's really nice and light.
Sonata is a simple GTK client which seems pretty quick and light, but
AFAIK doesn't do a couple of things which I don't really need (like EQ
controls).

Plus you can control MPD from a command line or script in a pinch
using netcat, without even having the UI open. =)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Xen Doc compilation failed => latex2html pb

2007-06-05 Thread Galevsky

Hi all,

I am still facing the problem. I run my box with -doc flag for a
while, but had re-emerged system and world with doc flag then
disappointed to see that doc compiling for app-emulation/xen-tools
still failed.

Is there anybody for who xen doc compilation succeeds ? I tried to
update latex2html dev-tex/latex2html-2002.2.1_pre20041025-r1
correctly set up. My previous log is still relevant and suits the
current behavior.

No one to show me the way ?

Thanks for your support,

Gal'

2007/4/15, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Hi,

I emerged app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4 on my gentoo box but the
compilation failed with the DOC use flag :

[...]
make: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs'
latex src/user.tex >/dev/null
latex src/interface.tex >/dev/null
make[1]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs'
install -d -m0755 html/user
latex2html -split 0 -show_section_numbers -toc_depth 3 -nonavigation \
-numbered_footnotes -local_icons -noinfo -math -dir html/user \
src/user.tex 1>/dev/null 2>/dev/null
if [ -e user.toc ] ; then latex src/user.tex >/dev/null ; fi
if [ -e interface.toc ] ; then latex src/interface.tex >/dev/null ; fi
make[1]: Entering directory
`/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs'
install -d -m0755 man1
install -d -m0755 ps
dvips -Ppdf -G0 -o ps/user.ps.new user.dvi
pod2man --release=xen-unstable --name=`echo man1/xm.1 | sed 's/^man1.//'| \
sed 's/.1//'` -s 1 -c "Xen" man/xm.pod.1 man1/xm.1
This is dvips(k) 5.95b Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com)
' TeX output 2007.04.15:1612' -> ps/user.ps.new
<8r.enc>. 
[1] [2] [1] [2] [3] [4] [1] [2] [3]
[4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19]
[20] [21] [22] [23] [24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34]
[35] [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] [46] [47] [48] [49]
[50] [51] [52] [53] [54] [55] [56] [57] [58] [59] [60] [61] [62]
mv ps/user.ps.new ps/user.ps
install -d -m0755 ps
dvips -Ppdf -G0 -o ps/interface.ps.new interface.dvi
This is dvips(k) 5.95b Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software (www.radicaleye.com)
' TeX output 2007.04.15:1612' -> ps/interface.ps.new
<8r.enc>. 
[1] [2] [1] [2] [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8]
[9] [10] [11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18] [19] [20] [21] [22] [23]
[24] [25] [26] [27] [28] [29] [30] [31] [32] [33] [34] [35] [36] [37] [38]
[39] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] [46] [47]
mv ps/interface.ps.new ps/interface.ps
install -d -m0755 pdf
ps2pdf ps/user.ps pdf/user.pdf.new
install -d -m0755 man5
pod2man --release=xen-unstable --name=`echo man5/xend-config.sxp.5 |
sed 's/^man5.//'| \
sed 's/.5//'` -s 5 -c "Xen" man/xend-config.sxp.pod.5
man5/xend-config.sxp.5
install -d -m0755 man5
pod2man --release=xen-unstable --name=`echo man5/xmdomain.cfg.5 | sed
's/^man5.//'| \
sed 's/.5//'` -s 5 -c "Xen" man/xmdomain.cfg.pod.5
man5/xmdomain.cfg.5
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs'
install -d -m0755 pdf
ps2pdf ps/interface.ps pdf/interface.pdf.new
mv pdf/user.pdf.new pdf/user.pdf
install -d -m0755 html/interface
latex2html -split 0 -show_section_numbers -toc_depth 3 -nonavigation \
-numbered_footnotes -local_icons -noinfo -math -dir html/interface \
src/interface.tex 1>/dev/null 2>/dev/null
mv pdf/interface.pdf.new pdf/interface.pdf
make[1]: *** [html/user/index.html] Error 2
make[1]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[1]: *** [html/interface/index.html] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs'
make: *** [html] Error 2
rm user.dvi interface.dvi
make: Leaving directory
`/var/tmp/portage/app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4/work/xen-3.0.2/docs'

!!! ERROR: app-emulation/xen-tools-3.0.2-r4 failed.
Call stack:
  ebuild.sh, line 1614:   Called dyn_compile
  ebuild.sh, line 971:   Called qa_call 'src_compile'
  environment, line 3633:   Called src_compile
  xen-tools-3.0.2-r4.ebuild, line 147:   Called die

!!! compiling docs failed
!!! If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call
stack if relevant.
!!! A complete build log is located at
'/root/ebuild-logs/app-emulation:xen-tools-3.0.2-r4:20070415-141126.log'.


So I did a manual "make html" without  1 and 2 > /dev/nul:
Everything was fine until the build of images:

[...]
94/95:section:..."B.2 Installing vnet support" for user.html
;.,.,..,,.,.;.

95/95:chapter:.."C. Glossary of Terms" for user.html
;.,;
.
Doing footnotes ...
Writing image file ...

Fatal (syswait): exec " ./images.tex" failed: Permission denied
 at /usr/lib/latex2html/latex2html.pl line 3760

Cannot read logfile './images.log': No such file or directory
Compilation failed in require at /usr/bin/latex2html line 39.
make[1]: *** [html

Re: [gentoo-user] Install Using another System

2007-06-05 Thread Randy Barlow
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Dan Farrell wrote:
> Sounds like a fun project.  Have you considered trying to get it to run
> without a har drive at all?  I bet a server could provide NFS many
> times faster than the hard drive...

Yeah, old hardware is fun to tinker with :)  I got this machine for free
from my roommate so I figure what the heck, let's put Gentoo on it!
That does sound like a cool idea - hadn't thought of trying NFS.  How
would one do something like that?  I imagine you still need a harddrive
in there to get the boot process going (to start up grub) and then you
could configure grub to do the rest of the NFS stuff?  This box doesn't
offer anything else like PXE, booting from USB.  It doesn't even have a
CD-ROM or a floppy.  Just a hard drive!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-05 Thread b.n.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ha scritto:
> I filed a bug which was promptly closed
> for no good reason, only the bogus answer that the new configuraion
> files layout took care of it.  I reopened it with a more detailed
> description of the problem and included the URL of the apache
> documentation which explains that the suexec binary has to be compiled
> with the USERDIR values known at compile time.  A week later, the bug
> was properly closed with a better solution than the old 2.2 solution,
> and a more permanent solution than my home grown work around.

So complaining, in the end, actually worked, isn't it?  You had your bug
solved in one week. Doesn't look bad at all to me.

> Some may remember me from whining a month or two ago about the
> atrocious color philosophy with emerge.  The reaction both times from
> the gentoo community was merely a repeat of what I have come to expect
> from several years of my own and from friends' and colleagues'
> experiences: blame the messenger.  Lash out at the poster, don't
> bother to even investigate the problem.  When in doubt, scream and
> shout, run in circles, pull a pout.

No. I remember that thread and as far as I remember you were simply told
that there were a lot of things you could do to solve the issue, but
that whining of the users mailing list wasn't one of that. And when told
to contact emerge developers you just told that their coding style
showed they're too dumb people to dishonor yourself going down the
stairs from the heavens to earth and talk to them. How it's different
that from "When in doubt, scream and shout, run in circles, pull a pout." ?

Note that the "atrocious color philosophy" wasn't even actually a bug:
was just an annoying usability problem. Given that you were one of the
very few to complain about it (not that you didn't have the right to
complain, of course: I remember what the problem was and I'm quite
sympathetic to you about it: but still, you were one of the few thinking
it was actually really important) while other gentoo users happily use
emerge and like (or at least do not find "atrocious") its colors, maybe
the developers have a point in shifting the color problem down in the
priority list. This is a clear case of "The world does not revolve
around you" awareness.

> I seldom complain any more.  It's not worth the hassle and feedback,
> and it accomplishes nothing.  

You just posted an example where you told us that it accomplished a lot
in solving the apache bug.

> The gentoo developers have enough bad
> eggs to tasint everybody.  There are plenty of good eggs, but they
> need to speak up and stop the bad eggs from ruining their reputation.
> I liken it to cops: as long as the good ones won't turn in the bad
> ones for framing people, taking bribes, and general corrupt practices,
> the good cops are going to be tarred with the same brush as the bad
> ones.

Oh, please. Gentoo developers are just human beings. Developers are not
renowned for their friendliness, and (like everyone else) sometimes they
can be rude, nasty, unhelpful or plain stupid. I know that, I understand
that. But how can one of the "bad" ones taint the other ones, is beyond
my comprehension. Do you think Gentoo developers are a gang of teddy boys?

You (and the OP) IMHO suffer of having not enough patience. Patience is
a hard virtue to build, and it's painful to deal with. Still, you have
to use it to gain something. You can't just do one, two attempts and
then throw the towel. If the developer does not understand, try to
understand why he does not. Probably your situation resembles a common
problem that he's used to see people complain but that it is not a bug
(like yours could be instead): explain carefully it. Try to get someone
else to reproduce the bug and let him/her add up to your bug report.
Show some will to collaborate in solving the problem. Have respect for
their work, always: they owe you nothing, they're doing it for *free*,
for you. When I did it, the few times I had to report a bug, I had my
problems solved in hours or days at most.

m.
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Edgar Contreras

I just downloaded myself and compiled it I couldn't find a replacement 

On 6/4/07, Denis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really liked
the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off portage.
Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it seems more
fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but on this box, I
am just having no luck getting it to run without errors (won't read
audio CD, master volume control is not functional, playlist errors on
start-up... )  I'm looking for something with a GUI rather than a
command-line player.

Thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Using another System

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 17:05:54 Florian Philipp wrote:
> > > > > Please note that Gentoo needs a i486 to work.
> > > >
> > > > No, it doesn't. It needs at least an i486 CHOST to enable nptl. While
> > > > nptl is faster that linuxthreads and thus should be preferred on
> > > > systems that support it, it is not required in order to run Gentoo.
> > >
> > > According to this [1] glibc-2.4 does not support linuxthreads any
> > > longer. Older versions are available through Portage, though.
> >
> > And newer versions. glibc-2.5 has support for linuxthreads too.
>
> Do you suggest I edit that hint at [1]. Does that solve [2] as well or do
> you need to do something like installing from stage1?

To be honest I don't really care enough to even look at the wiki. It does look 
like there are no 2007.0 stages with an i386 CHOST (probably because so few 
people actually want to install Gentoo on an real 386).

So either you'd have to use stage 1 from 2007.0 (not supported) or stage3-x86 
from 2006.1 (still supported). But the default-linux/x86/no-nptl profile is 
still stable and glibc-2.5 is unmasked on it so the point still stands until 
that profile becomes deprecated (and I doubt that will happen anytime soon).

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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Stratos Psomadakis
O/H Denis έγραψε:
> On 6/5/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> alsaplayer?
>>
>> it is small, fast, you can run douzends of instances at the same
>> time. Play
>> forwards, backwards, at a lot of different speeds - and it has even a
>> playlist.
>
> I did want to try the alsaplayer, but when I try to emerge it, portage
> says it's masked:
>
> [code]
> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "alsaplayer" have been masked.
> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
> request:
> - media-sound/alsaplayer-0.99.77-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
> [/code]
open up a terminal,become root and write:
#echo "media-sound/alsaplayer  ~x86">>/etc/portage/package.keywords
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Peter Weller
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 00:05:41 +0300
"Stratos Psomadakis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> O/H Denis έγραψε:
> > What are some alternatives to Audacious mp3/CD player?  I really
> > liked the old XMMS and used it right up until it was taken off
> > portage. Audacious seems to resemble XMMS closely enough, but it
> > seems more fragile.  I have it working well on one gentoo box, but
> > on this box, I am just having no luck getting it to run without
> > errors (won't read audio CD, master volume control is not
> > functional, playlist errors on start-up... )  I'm looking for
> > something with a GUI rather than a command-line player.
> >
> > Thanks.
> i can think only of amarok,but it's very 'heavy'...
> maybe you could find a nice gui client for mpd...
> 
How about using gmpc as a GTK+ frontend to mpd?
http://www.musicpd.org/gmpc.shtml

Never tried myself, though.


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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Denis

On 6/5/07, Hemmann, Volker Armin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

alsaplayer?

it is small, fast, you can run douzends of instances at the same time. Play
forwards, backwards, at a lot of different speeds - and it has even a
playlist.


I did want to try the alsaplayer, but when I try to emerge it, portage
says it's masked:

[code]
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "alsaplayer" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- media-sound/alsaplayer-0.99.77-r1 (masked by: ~x86 keyword)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-05 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

short correction/addition:

On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:48:17 +0200
Hans-Werner Hilse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> [...] complicated solutions like e.g. using readlink(1) [...]

or just throwing in find's "-L" switch.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Message at bootup about superblock last write time

2007-06-05 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Mon, 04 Jun 2007 19:25:57 -0400 Walter Dnes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   A while ago, I was troubleshooting serial port modem/ppconfig
> problems, and I did a lot of recompiles and reboots.  It seems that
> every time my system reboots, I get the following message...
>
>  * Checking root filesystem ...
> /dev/hda1: Superblock last write time is in the future.  FIXED.
> /dev/hda1: clean, 6975/160960 files, 32843/307235 blocks  [ ok ]
>  * Remounting root filesystem read/write ...  [ ok ]

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142850

allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] postfix - how to test

2007-06-05 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 10:35:39 +0200
Johannes Skov Frandsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:29:56 +0200 Johannes Skov Frandsen
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Well I guess I should have expected it to rather simple to test.
> >> But I have never tried to configure a mailserver before
> >> hence my somewhat naive question.
> >>
> >> So what I did was to change my smtp server in thunderbird to use
> >> localhost (with my postfix server running) and the send a
> >> mail. This failed! Thunderbirds just claims that it could not
> >> connect to the server...
> >>
> >> I'm obvious doing something  really simple  completely wrong, but
> >> what?
> >> 
> >
> > Start with telnet or even better netcat ("nc") and try connecting
> > directly, e.g. "nc localhost smtp" (replace "nc" by "telnet" if you
> > have that installed -- you might need to install one of the
> > utilities, in that case, chose netcat).
> >   
> My server give me this response:
> # telnet localhost smtp
> Trying 127.0.0.1...
> Connected to localhost.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> Connection closed by foreign host
> 
> I have no firewall installed so it shouldn't be a firewal problem.
> > The server should respond with 
> > "220  ESMTP ".
> >
> > If not, check
> > - whether "localhost" can be resolved (your /etc/hosts might be
> > borked)
> > - if there's a overly jealous firewall active, that doesn't allow
> > this traffic.
> >
> > You can then try talking to your mail server directly (simple SMTP
> > is fast to learn), e.g. enter
> >
> > ---snip
> > MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > DATA
> > Subject: Test
> >
> > this is a test.
> > .
> > QUIT
> > ---snip
> > (server will send replies not printed here)
> >
> > Do the same coming from the outside, in order to make sure that
> > those attempts are blocked. Otherwise you'll create an open relay
> > and you'll be blocked very soon on several other hosts.
> >
> > If you're not sure what is wrong, that might warrant a look into
> > postfix' log files (below /var/log).
> >   
> I cant' seem to locate the log file.  Any hint on the specific
> location?
> > -hwh
> >   
> 
> 
Postfix on my boxes logs to /var/log/mail.err and /var/log/mail.log.

Why not attach your main.cf to the next message, and I'll take a look
at it?  
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Re: [gentoo-user] framebuffer questions

2007-06-05 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 07:25:48 -0700 (PDT)
maxim wexler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I would have thought video=aty128fb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in
> > grub.conf should
> 
> Yep, that did it. For *all* the consoles
> 

After all this time, the problem was just having two different
frambuffer drivers in there at once?  I guess they were tripping over
each other.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Message at bootup about superblock last write time

2007-06-05 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 19:25:57 -0400
"Walter Dnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Despite the message, I haven't encountered any problems.  I'm
> running an 1999 Dell 450mhz PIII into the ground, but it refuses to
> die.  Sort of like "a watched kettle never boils", actually "a
> backed-up harddrive never crashes".  Here are the harddrive-related
> entries of /etc/fstab
> 
> /dev/hda1 / ext3

Looks like you should sync your system clock to your hardware clock.  I
assume that your system clock is correct, but by default gentoo doesn't
sync up the Hardware clock to it.  Look in /etc/conf.d/clock.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Using another System

2007-06-05 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 07:58:31 -0400
Randy Barlow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> > Should be OK as long as the host system is an x86. I would use very 
> > conservative CFLAGS. Your CHOST will likely need to be
> > "i386-pc-linux-gnu".
> > 
> > There is a kernel config in "Processor family" that says
> > "CyrixIII/Via-C3". Is that what you have? If not or if you are not
> > sure then choose plain old "386".
> 
> It's the Cyrix MediaGX, which, according to gentoo-wiki, is safe with
> i586 and -march=pentium-mmx, so that was what I was planning on
> doing...
> 
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> 
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Interesting chip!  According to wikipedia,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaGX
this processor, introduced in 1997, represents Cyrix's stab at
combining the job of the CPU with hardware to process video and
audio.  After National Semi. bought out the company and sold the name
and trademarks to Via, NS developed into the Geode processor line,
which was then sold to AMD.  

Aside from being used in subcompact laptops, CTX EzBooks, and some
Compaq Presarios, Casio tablet PCs, and by Sun in the Dover
JavaStation, the chip has also been used in Arcade pinball
machines.

Unfortunately the cpu doesn't provide any L2 Cache, is heavily tied to
its companion chipset (don't bother removing it, it won't work anywhere
else ;-) ) And, of course, performance really sucks -- for one thing,
close association with the PCI bus required the same processor clock
speed as that bus, which you all know is a lot slower than a typical
FSB in '97.  

Sounds like a fun project.  Have you considered trying to get it to run
without a har drive at all?  I bet a server could provide NFS many
times faster than the hard drive...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Help me reboot X

2007-06-05 Thread Dan Farrell
On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 18:52:35 -0700
"Kevin O'Gorman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 6/4/07, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun, 3 Jun 2007 17:16:52 -0700
> > "Kevin O'Gorman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > From time to time my X server will lock up, usually but not always
> > > while I'm editing something in ooffice.  It's always something
> > > that's pretty heavily graphical.  When this happens, the only
> > > thing that still works on my desktop is mouse motion.  No clicks
> > > actually register, and even the three-finger salutes (BS and DEL)
> > > are feckless.
> > >
> > > However, I can SSH into the machine from elsewhere and pretty
> > > much do anything else I want.  I usually have to reboot the
> > > machine, because I haven't figured out how to restart X in
> > > gentoo.  I'm sure it's pretty simple, but I can't seem to find
> > > documentation on this particular thing and it's not like the
> > > usual init.d services.  Lots on startup, a bit on shutdown, but
> > > nothing I see is about restart.
> > >
> > > When this happens, sometimes X is using 100% of one of the CPU's,
> > > but I don't always check and haven't recently verified my
> > > impression that sometimes all CPU's are at an idle (I have 4
> > > hyperthreads).
> > >
> > > Can somebody help me stop and restart X?  I'm using kdm for login.
> > >
> > Just find the offending process's id number and issue it a term
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> >
> There's sometimes no obvious offending process.  Sending a term to X
> doesn't always do much when this is going on.  
You might try -KILL; that should do the trick.  KDM should restart the
server and revert to the logon screen, unless you changed that setting.
> I'll have to wait till
> it happens again to be specific.
> 
> ++ kevin
> 
Sorry, for some reason decided to send this message without scrolling
down to see whether anyone else had yet answered; it turns out they
did, and their answeres were much more complete.  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Distcc borkage: Connection reset by peer

2007-06-05 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 06:15:25 -0400
PaulNM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
>  Distcc seems to not be working properly on one or all of my 3
> systems. I have :
> Galactica 192.168.1.22 Pentium 2 (Problem system)
> Robotech  192.168.1.40 Pentium 3
> Optimus   192.168.1.80 AMD64 AthlonX2 (crossdev setup)
> 
>  All are Gentoo with distcc installed and configured. Optimus is
> solely a helper system to the other two as far as distcc is
> concerned. If I emerge something on Robotech, both Robotech and
> Optimus are used, but Galactica seems to be ignored with no error
> messages. When I try on Galactica, I get numerous
> "distcc[910] (dcc_writex) ERROR: failed to write: Connection reset by
> peer distcc[910] Warning: failed to distribute ckkv.c to 192.168.1.22,
> running locally instead"
> messages, also listing the other two ip's 40 and 80.
> 
>  "cat /etc/distcc/hosts" on all three results in "192.168.1.80
> 192.168.1.40 192.168.1.22".  They all have
> "sys-devel/distcc-2.18.3-r10" and "/etc/conf.d/distccd" modified the
> same way : DISTCCD_OPTS="${DISTCCD_OPTS} --allow 192.168.1.40
> 192.168.1.80 192.168.1.22"
> Distccd was restarted after any config changes.
> 
>  All three have i686-pc-linux-gnu toolsets/chosts, and as far as I can
> tell should work. No firewalls are in place for testing, distccd port
> is open on all three (confirmed with nmap), and I'm out of ideas on
> where to look for problems.
> 
> Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> PaulNM
The example I see in etc/conf.d/distccd lists each allowed ip address
after its own --allow argument.  Furthermore, you might consider
whether you'd rather allow anyone on your local subnet to connect --
for example if you add new hosts -- and specify in cidr notation
something like "--allow 192.168.1.0/24"

As it is now, i think only Robotech will be allowed to distribute code
on any host.  I would think galactica would be included in that list,
but for some reason it doesn't seem to want to accept the connections.

I wonder, do you have MAKEOPTS set high enough on your systems to
compile on more than 2 computers at once?  D

id you use distcc-config?

Have you set the configs to accept the number of jobs you want each
computer to accept maximum?  This should be low for the pII and much
higher for the X2.  

Finally, I wanted you to entertain the notion that if robotech's
make.conf (wait, are these names from Transformers?) is set to compile
for a PIII, with sse instructions and such, the PII may not be able to
do it, or if it can, might be required to build a crossdev toolchain
too.  FWIW, pIIs on my network are no longer allowed to 'help' the
faster computers compile because they generally tend to slow them down
rather than speed them up. 

Good luck!!  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-05 Thread felix
I see complaints about the bug reporting style, but no mea culpas.  I
had an experience with gentoo bugs recently which confirms his
experience on a smaller level.  The apache ebuilds used to recognize
USERDIR to override the default "public_html" value.  The 2.4 ebuilds
discarded that for no reason.  I filed a bug which was promptly closed
for no good reason, only the bogus answer that the new configuraion
files layout took care of it.  I reopened it with a more detailed
description of the problem and included the URL of the apache
documentation which explains that the suexec binary has to be compiled
with the USERDIR values known at compile time.  A week later, the bug
was properly closed with a better solution than the old 2.2 solution,
and a more permanent solution than my home grown work around.

Some may remember me from whining a month or two ago about the
atrocious color philosophy with emerge.  The reaction both times from
the gentoo community was merely a repeat of what I have come to expect
from several years of my own and from friends' and colleagues'
experiences: blame the messenger.  Lash out at the poster, don't
bother to even investigate the problem.  When in doubt, scream and
shout, run in circles, pull a pout.

I seldom complain any more.  It's not worth the hassle and feedback,
and it accomplishes nothing.  The gentoo developers have enough bad
eggs to tasint everybody.  There are plenty of good eggs, but they
need to speak up and stop the bad eggs from ruining their reputation.
I liken it to cops: as long as the good ones won't turn in the bad
ones for framing people, taking bribes, and general corrupt practices,
the good cops are going to be tarred with the same brush as the bad
ones.

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Re: [gentoo-user] AAC RAID Adaptec RAID array. Booting trouble

2007-06-05 Thread Dan Farrell
On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:05:56 +0400
sa8o1age <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i'm trying to install gentoo on Adaptec AAC-RAID (rev 01) Subsystem:
> Hewlett-Packard Company AAR-2610SA. i've made RAID5 array with the 4
> sata disks. And i have also 1 IDE disk with the old gentoo. My aim is
> to get rid of this IDE disk and to install gentoo on whole RAID5
> array.
> 
> so this is it.
> Old IDE:
> 
> /dev/hda5 291M   79M  212M  28% /
> /dev/hda6 6.6G  1.7G  4.9G  26% /usr
> /dev/hda7  30G  195M   30G   1% /var
> /dev/hda1  71M   38M   34M  53% /boot
> 
> and here is the sata array:
> 
> /dev/sda1   /boot   ext2
> noauto,noatime  1 2 /dev/sda3   /
> reiserfsnoatime 0 1 /dev/sda2
> noneswapsw  0
> 0 /dev/sda4   /store  reiserfs
> auto0 0
> 
> so, i've just copied all files from IDE to sda-raid array, compiled
> new kernel with the genkernel-tool and installed it on sda.
> 
> kernel configuration: http://paste.org.ru/?wa5zzf
> dmesg(of the same kernel on IDE): http://paste.org.ru/?9loypk
> 
> my grub.conf:
> 
> default 0
> timeout 10
> splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
> 
> title=Gentoo Linux
> root (hd0,0)
> kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0
> init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sda3 udev
> initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5
> 
> after installation and copying i've removed IDE disk and tried to boot
> from sda array. grub was loaded succesfully but the kernel was stuck
> with this error:
> 
> >> Activating mdev...
> ...
> mknod: /newroot/dev/console : read-only file system
> mknod: /newroot/dev/tty1 : read-only file system
> >> Booting (initramfs)..switch_root: Bad console '/dev/console'
> Kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill init
> 
> 
> what am i doing wrong?
The problem appears to be with /dev.  When you copied, did you preserve
all the permissions of everything and everything?  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Migration

2007-06-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 05 June 2007, Randy Barlow wrote:
> Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > No need to reinstall, you just need to shuffle some stuff around.
> > But first, what is your setup?
> >
> > Post the results of 'df -h', {pv,vg,lv}display and fdisk -l so I
> > can see how big etc your partitions and volumes are. Also fstab
>
> I've thought about that too, but I was wondering what would truly be
> easier.  The dump/restore option sounds good, except that I don't
> have another machine with a large enough harddrive to do the job (and
> am a poor grad student with no cash for another HD :( )  I do,
> however, have another machine running a full backup of this machine
> using backuppc with nice compression/pooling, and so that was why my
> original plan was just to reinstall and then try to re-emerge
> everything.

Well, with a *full* backup on another machine, there's really no need to 
remerge everything. That will take around 48 hours, and a full copy 
back will take no more than say 3 hours. Boot off a LiveCD, delete and 
redo as you need to, and copy the backup back. All the files go back in 
their proper dirs, but on the volumes you have now newly created

alan


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Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-05 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 17:07:42 +0200
Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> just as I thought, certain folks had their lessons now it's 
> maybe worth contributing someting, it starts again: 
> Critical bugs are simply declared invalid. 
> 
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180935
> 
> Again the old philosophy "what I don't understand is invalid".
> 
> Obviously my contributions are unwelcomed, so I closed the bug.
> 
> BTW, I've already fixed it. If anyone's *seriously* interested,
> give a note. Evrything else is a waste of my time.

Well, since your awesome efforts last time, everyone here already knows
you're the most polite bug reporter, absolutely fair and waiting long
enough for the bug wranglers to catch up, answering nicely to their
statements and that you're always correct. Your solution to that bug
was charming and short: Dump what you didn't see making sense (is that
what you said about things being "invalid"?) -- instead of complicated
solutions like e.g. using readlink(1) and keeping at least the
functionality in there.

-hwh

PS: free sarcasm for everyone, just pick your favorite above. And sorry
for adding to the inevitable noise.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007, Enrico Weigelt wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> just as I thought, certain folks had their lessons now it's
> maybe worth contributing someting, it starts again:
> Critical bugs are simply declared invalid.
>
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180935
>
> Again the old philosophy "what I don't understand is invalid".
>
> Obviously my contributions are unwelcomed, so I closed the bug.
>
> BTW, I've already fixed it. If anyone's *seriously* interested,
> give a note. Evrything else is a waste of my time.
>

so first you went to the wrong bugzilla and made a big fuss.

Then you went to the gentoo-bugzilla and made even more fuss.

And in less than a day you have concluded that nobody is interessted in your 
problem or patch.

You are really fast - but have you ever tried to create a NEW PROFILE WITH THE 
CORRECT DIR INSTEAD OF SYMLINKS? NO?

So why are you complaining?

Just start firefox with firefox -Profilemanager

Oh, and retry. Maybe adding the author of mozilla-launcher to the bug? 
Because, you know, the bugwranglers aren't perfect-all-knowing persons - and 
you are so smart, you should be able to find the dev who is responsible for 
mozilla-launcher...

For the rest - a typical Enrico-mail. Please don't stop. Go on, nothing to see 
here.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Migration

2007-06-05 Thread Randy Barlow
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Alan McKinnon wrote:
> No need to reinstall, you just need to shuffle some stuff around. But 
> first, what is your setup?
> 
> Post the results of 'df -h', {pv,vg,lv}display and fdisk -l so I can see 
> how big etc your partitions and volumes are. Also fstab

I've thought about that too, but I was wondering what would truly be
easier.  The dump/restore option sounds good, except that I don't have
another machine with a large enough harddrive to do the job (and am a
poor grad student with no cash for another HD :( )  I do, however, have
another machine running a full backup of this machine using backuppc
with nice compression/pooling, and so that was why my original plan was
just to reinstall and then try to re-emerge everything.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/md/3 1.9G  139M  1.7G   8% /
udev  252M  2.7M  250M   2% /dev
/dev/mapper/vg-usr 11G  5.1G  4.5G  53% /usr
/dev/mapper/vg-portage
  2.6G  236M  2.2G  10% /usr/portage
/dev/mapper/vg-distfiles
  5.2G  3.1G  1.9G  62% /usr/portage/distfiles
/dev/mapper/vg-home15G   12G  2.3G  84% /home
/dev/mapper/vg-opt5.1G  360M  4.5G   8% /opt
/dev/mapper/vg-tmp2.6G  1.3G  1.2G  54% /tmp
/dev/mapper/vg-var5.1G  1.1G  3.7G  24% /var
/dev/mapper/vg-vartmp
  6.0G  126M  5.6G   3% /var/tmp
/dev/hdc6 120G  105G  8.5G  93% /data
shm   252M 0  252M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hdb3 7.4G  759M  6.7G  11% /mnt/booty2
/dev/hdb1  30M  383K   29M   2% /mnt/booty2/boot

booty ~ # pvdisplay
  --- Physical volume ---
  PV Name   /dev/md4
  VG Name   vg
  PV Size   51.03 GB / not usable 0
  Allocatable   yes
  PE Size (KByte)   4096
  Total PE  13064
  Free PE   4
  Allocated PE  13060
  PV UUID   ajDnLH-cbNy-EZo1-edmB-RkkK-BZDT-65gfLz

booty ~ # lvdisplay
  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name/dev/vg/usr
  VG Namevg
  LV UUIDQzY1iS-pVFF-Gr3j-aTu2-zDnj-1PWp-g97XsY
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 1
  LV Size10.20 GB
  Current LE 2612
  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
  Read ahead sectors 0
  Block device   252:0

  --- Logical volume ---
  LV Name/dev/vg/portage
  VG Namevg
  LV UUIDj0R66U-Lun6-F0Zl-6cS3-ZgGE-sqgj-6XDFh3
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 1
  LV Size2.55 GB
  Current LE 653
  Segments   1
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  Block device   252:1

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  LV Name/dev/vg/distfiles
  VG Namevg
  LV UUIDb0JvKE-J348-ao6k-tM2h-RKbL-YRx9-b35Ty2
  LV Write Accessread/write
  LV Status  available
  # open 1
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  Current LE 1306
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  LV Write Accessread/write
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  # open 1
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  Segments   1
  Allocation inherit
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  --- Logical volume ---
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  LV UUID3nU2sz-ZF9b-DhKg-YK6O-mrOS-pt6t-9RJ23z
  LV Write Accessread/write
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  S

[gentoo-user] Again: Critical bugs considered invalid

2007-06-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt

Hi folks,

just as I thought, certain folks had their lessons now it's 
maybe worth contributing someting, it starts again: 
Critical bugs are simply declared invalid. 

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180935

Again the old philosophy "what I don't understand is invalid".

Obviously my contributions are unwelcomed, so I closed the bug.

BTW, I've already fixed it. If anyone's *seriously* interested,
give a note. Evrything else is a waste of my time.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Using another System

2007-06-05 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Dienstag 05 Juni 2007 16:30 schrieb Bo Ørsted Andresen:
> On Tuesday 05 June 2007 16:21:31 Florian Philipp wrote:
> > Am Dienstag 05 Juni 2007 15:32 schrieb Bo Ørsted Andresen:
> > > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 10:53:26 Florian Philipp wrote:
> > > > Please note that Gentoo needs a i486 to work.
> > >
> > > No, it doesn't. It needs at least an i486 CHOST to enable nptl. While
> > > nptl is faster that linuxthreads and thus should be preferred on
> > > systems that support it, it is not required in order to run Gentoo.
> >
> > According to this [1] glibc-2.4 does not support linuxthreads any longer.
> > Older versions are available through Portage, though.
>
> And newer versions. glibc-2.5 has support for linuxthreads too.

Do you suggest I edit that hint at [1]. Does that solve [2] as well or do you 
need to do something like installing from stage1?

[1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#i386
[2] http://gentoo-wiki.com/NPTL


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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Using another System

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 16:21:31 Florian Philipp wrote:
> Am Dienstag 05 Juni 2007 15:32 schrieb Bo Ørsted Andresen:
> > On Tuesday 05 June 2007 10:53:26 Florian Philipp wrote:
> > > Please note that Gentoo needs a i486 to work.
> >
> > No, it doesn't. It needs at least an i486 CHOST to enable nptl. While
> > nptl is faster that linuxthreads and thus should be preferred on systems
> > that support it, it is not required in order to run Gentoo.
>
> According to this [1] glibc-2.4 does not support linuxthreads any longer.
> Older versions are available through Portage, though.

And newer versions. glibc-2.5 has support for linuxthreads too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] framebuffer questions

2007-06-05 Thread maxim wexler
> I would have thought video=aty128fb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in
> grub.conf should

Yep, that did it. For *all* the consoles

> Glad to hear it's mostly working,
> 
> -Nick
> 

Thanks Nick. Did I call you Dale yesterday? Sorry.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Using another System

2007-06-05 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Dienstag 05 Juni 2007 15:32 schrieb Bo Ørsted Andresen:
> On Tuesday 05 June 2007 10:53:26 Florian Philipp wrote:
> > Please note that Gentoo needs a i486 to work.
>
> No, it doesn't. It needs at least an i486 CHOST to enable nptl. While nptl
> is faster that linuxthreads and thus should be preferred on systems that
> support it, it is not required in order to run Gentoo.

According to this [1] glibc-2.4 does not support linuxthreads any longer. 
Older versions are available through Portage, though.
According to this [2]  you have no choice since 2006.1

[1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#i386
[2] http://gentoo-wiki.com/NPTL


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Re: [gentoo-user] perm link

2007-06-05 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Tue, 5 Jun 2007 15:32:07 +0200 Alan McKinnon
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> You will need to create a udev rule for this
> 
> Something like:
> 
> # cdrom symlinks and other good cdrom naming
> KERNEL=="sr[0-9]*|hd[a-z]|pcd[0-9]*", ACTION=="add", 
> IMPORT{program}="cdrom_id --export $tempnode"
> ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", GROUP="cdrom"
> # assign cdrom-permission also to associated generic device (for 
> cd-burning ...)
> KERNEL=="sg[0-9]*", ACTION=="add", ATTRS{type}=="4|5", GROUP="cdrom"
> 
> in /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules

It should be already there, shouldn't it?

In that case, probably /lib/udev/cdrom_id doesn't catch it, so just
adding the above lines another time won't help. Of course, a simple
rule like

KERNEL=="sg0", SYMLINK="dvd"

should be enough. And you certainly shouldn't edit distribution
provided udev rules w/o good reason, but rather create a new rules file
below /etc/udev/rules.d (so that further distribution updates of udev
don't require you to merge config files).

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Re: [gentoo-user] perm link

2007-06-05 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007 schrieb ext Alan McKinnon:
> On Tuesday 05 June 2007, sean wrote:
> > Trying to create a permanent link as such
>
> /dev does not exist on a disk, it is created on the fly by udev, so any
> hard links you make are never written to persistent storage
>
> You will need to create a udev rule for this
>
> Something like:
>
> # cdrom symlinks and other good cdrom naming
> KERNEL=="sr[0-9]*|hd[a-z]|pcd[0-9]*", ACTION=="add",
> IMPORT{program}="cdrom_id --export $tempnode"
> ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", GROUP="cdrom"
> # assign cdrom-permission also to associated generic device (for
> cd-burning ...)
> KERNEL=="sg[0-9]*", ACTION=="add", ATTRS{type}=="4|5", GROUP="cdrom"
>
> in /etc/udev/rules.d/50-udev.rules

...and read http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html for the 
details.

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Re: [gentoo-user] AAC RAID Adaptec RAID array. Booting trouble

2007-06-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 05 June 2007, sa8o1age wrote:
> >> Booting (initramfs)..switch_root: Bad console '/dev/console'
>
> Kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill init

You don't have a static /dev/console node in /dev BEFORE udev is mounted 
there. You'll have to bind-mount / somewhere to get access to it and 
create the node:

mount -o bind / /mnt/
mknod  /mnt//dev/console b 5 1
umount /mnt/

Re: [gentoo-user] perm link

2007-06-05 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Tue, 05 Jun 2007 09:09:34 -0400 sean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Trying to create a permanent link as such
> "ln /dev/sr1 /dev/dvd"
> And it works fine, but when the system is rebooted, link gone.
> 
> What am I doing wrong?

low level: You're creating the link on a tmpfs. This is by definition
gone by a reboot.

high level: You're not using udev's means to create (symbolic) links
for devices, which you should. Add a rule that does this for you...
BTW: Why isn't gentoo creating this link automatically for
you? usually 50-udev.rules cares for that by
calling /lib/udev/cdrom_id. If that program doesn't recognize your DVD
drive, you might certainly file a bug...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Using another System

2007-06-05 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Tuesday 05 June 2007 10:53:26 Florian Philipp wrote:
> Please note that Gentoo needs a i486 to work.

No, it doesn't. It needs at least an i486 CHOST to enable nptl. While nptl is 
faster that linuxthreads and thus should be preferred on systems that support 
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to move windows partition to be begining of hard?

2007-06-05 Thread Randy Barlow
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> I  have a box that has a 4GB fat32 partition in the middle of hard.
> I want to move this partition to the end or  begining of hard, so I can 
> create  
> bigger partitions.
> 
> How can I do this without losing the data in this partition? I know that 
> softwares like "Partition magick" can do this without any problem.  Is there  
> any opensource competitor in linux world?

Have a look at qtparted.  I haven't personally used it for such a task,
but I think it may be capable of something like that.  It's available on
the Knoppix CD by default, which is good if you need to have root
unmounted...

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2007-06-05 Thread Randy Barlow
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darren kirby wrote:
> Should be OK as long as the host system is an x86. I would use very 
> conservative CFLAGS. Your CHOST will likely need to be "i386-pc-linux-gnu".
> 
> There is a kernel config in "Processor family" that says "CyrixIII/Via-C3". 
> Is 
> that what you have? If not or if you are not sure then choose plain 
> old "386".

It's the Cyrix MediaGX, which, according to gentoo-wiki, is safe with
i586 and -march=pentium-mmx, so that was what I was planning on doing...

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[gentoo-user] perm link

2007-06-05 Thread sean
Trying to create a permanent link as such
"ln /dev/sr1 /dev/dvd"
And it works fine, but when the system is rebooted, link gone.

What am I doing wrong?

Thanks
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[gentoo-user] AAC RAID Adaptec RAID array. Booting trouble

2007-06-05 Thread sa8o1age

i'm trying to install gentoo on Adaptec AAC-RAID (rev 01) Subsystem:
Hewlett-Packard Company AAR-2610SA. i've made RAID5 array with the 4
sata disks. And i have also 1 IDE disk with the old gentoo. My aim is
to get rid of this IDE disk and to install gentoo on whole RAID5
array.

so this is it.
Old IDE:

/dev/hda5 291M   79M  212M  28% /
/dev/hda6 6.6G  1.7G  4.9G  26% /usr
/dev/hda7  30G  195M   30G   1% /var
/dev/hda1  71M   38M   34M  53% /boot

and here is the sata array:

/dev/sda1   /boot   ext2noauto,noatime  1 2
/dev/sda3   /   reiserfsnoatime 0 1
/dev/sda2   noneswapsw  0 0
/dev/sda4   /store  reiserfsauto0 0

so, i've just copied all files from IDE to sda-raid array, compiled
new kernel with the genkernel-tool and installed it on sda.

kernel configuration: http://paste.org.ru/?wa5zzf
dmesg(of the same kernel on IDE): http://paste.org.ru/?9loypk

my grub.conf:

default 0
timeout 10
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title=Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,0)
kernel /boot/kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0
init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/sda3 udev
initrd /boot/initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.19-gentoo-r5

after installation and copying i've removed IDE disk and tried to boot
from sda array. grub was loaded succesfully but the kernel was stuck
with this error:


Activating mdev...

...
mknod: /newroot/dev/console : read-only file system
mknod: /newroot/dev/tty1 : read-only file system

Booting (initramfs)..switch_root: Bad console '/dev/console'

Kernel panic - not syncing : Attempted to kill init


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[gentoo-user] Re: how to move windows partition to be begining of hard?

2007-06-05 Thread Platoali
Thank you very much.


On Se shanbe 15 Khordad 1386 15:33, Galevsky wrote:
> Ya there is. Have a look at GParted, and burn this useful live-cd.
>
> http://gparted.sourceforge.net/index.php
>
> Gal
>
> 2007/6/5, Platoali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Hi
> >
> > I  have a box that has a 4GB fat32 partition in the middle of hard.
> > I want to move this partition to the end or  begining of hard, so I can
> > create
> > bigger partitions.
> >
> > How can I do this without losing the data in this partition? I know that
> > softwares like "Partition magick" can do this without any problem.  Is
> > there
> > any opensource competitor in linux world?
> >
> > Thank you very much for you answeres
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Re: [gentoo-user] how to move windows partition to be begining of hard?

2007-06-05 Thread Galevsky

Ya there is. Have a look at GParted, and burn this useful live-cd.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/index.php

Gal

2007/6/5, Platoali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:


Hi

I  have a box that has a 4GB fat32 partition in the middle of hard.
I want to move this partition to the end or  begining of hard, so I can
create
bigger partitions.

How can I do this without losing the data in this partition? I know that
softwares like "Partition magick" can do this without any problem.  Is
there
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Message at bootup about superblock last write time

2007-06-05 Thread Randy Barlow
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»Q« wrote:
> I based my guess that using local time causes it on the fact that the
> system clock is set using the hardware clock (local) a few seconds
> after the Superblock last write time is fixed during boot.  And it's my
> impression that if I wait a few hours before booting (my offset from
> UTC is -5) no problem with the Superblock write time is detected.  I
> say 'impression' because I haven't paid close attention to that.
> 
> But I'm just guessing;  I don't mean to hijack Walter's thread.

I've experienced this as well when using a local clock.  I no longer do
that as I no longer dual boot, and if you aren't dual booting with that
evil OS, then you should use clock=UTC and this problem will go right
away.  Not sure if it's fixable with clock=local though...

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Re: [gentoo-user] how to move windows partition to be begining of hard?

2007-06-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 05 June 2007, Platoali wrote:
> Hi
>
> I  have a box that has a 4GB fat32 partition in the middle of hard.
> I want to move this partition to the end or  begining of hard, so I
> can create bigger partitions.
>
> How can I do this without losing the data in this partition? I know
> that softwares like "Partition magick" can do this without any
> problem.  Is there any opensource competitor in linux world?

I don;t know of any apps that can automagically perform this function - 
I always do it manually, but it requires some unpartitioned space, or 
free space on the file systems.

What is the output of these command on your system:

fdisk -l
df -h
cat /etc/fstab

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[gentoo-user] how to move windows partition to be begining of hard?

2007-06-05 Thread Platoali
Hi 

I  have a box that has a 4GB fat32 partition in the middle of hard.
I want to move this partition to the end or  begining of hard, so I can create  
bigger partitions.

How can I do this without losing the data in this partition? I know that 
softwares like "Partition magick" can do this without any problem.  Is there  
any opensource competitor in linux world?

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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread vladimir

try media-sound/moc - "Music On Console - ncurses interface for
playing audio files"
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Re: [gentoo-user] alternatives to audacious?

2007-06-05 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Dienstag, 5. Juni 2007, Denis wrote:
> > Amarok is feature-rich, but heavy indeed.  I don't recommend it for a
> > drop-in XMMS replacement.  If you like the idea of editing mp3 tags and
> > organzing your music really nicely, browsing it 3 different ways and
> > seeing cover art from amazon.com and such, amarok is for you.
>
> Ha...  yea, my use flags have "-gnome" and "-kde" in them, and I run a
> very simple fluxbox environment...  I just want the music player to
> have a decent graphical interface, but just the essential features,
> without bloat.
>
> It seems like I got the Audacious to work...  But I still miss the XMMS ;-)

alsaplayer?

it is small, fast, you can run douzends of instances at the same time. Play 
forwards, backwards, at a lot of different speeds - and it has even a 
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[gentoo-user] Distcc borkage: Connection reset by peer

2007-06-05 Thread PaulNM
Hi all,

 Distcc seems to not be working properly on one or all of my 3 systems.
I have :
Galactica 192.168.1.22 Pentium 2 (Problem system)
Robotech  192.168.1.40 Pentium 3
Optimus   192.168.1.80 AMD64 AthlonX2 (crossdev setup)

 All are Gentoo with distcc installed and configured. Optimus is solely
a helper system to the other two as far as distcc is concerned. If I
emerge something on Robotech, both Robotech and Optimus are used, but
Galactica seems to be ignored with no error messages. When I try on
Galactica, I get numerous
"distcc[910] (dcc_writex) ERROR: failed to write: Connection reset by peer
distcc[910] Warning: failed to distribute ckkv.c to 192.168.1.22,
running locally instead"
messages, also listing the other two ip's 40 and 80.

 "cat /etc/distcc/hosts" on all three results in "192.168.1.80
192.168.1.40 192.168.1.22".  They all have "sys-devel/distcc-2.18.3-r10"
and "/etc/conf.d/distccd" modified the same way :
DISTCCD_OPTS="${DISTCCD_OPTS} --allow 192.168.1.40 192.168.1.80
192.168.1.22"
Distccd was restarted after any config changes.

 All three have i686-pc-linux-gnu toolsets/chosts, and as far as I can
tell should work. No firewalls are in place for testing, distccd port is
open on all three (confirmed with nmap), and I'm out of ideas on where
to look for problems.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] framebuffer questions

2007-06-05 Thread Nick
On Mon, Jun 04, 2007 at 07:58:45PM -0700, maxim wexler wrote:
> Geert Uytterhoeven, who's listed as the author at the
> end of man fbset, pointed out that since I only have
> one video card, I only need one framebuffer, whereas I
> had two: ATI and VESA. So I reconfig'd w/o VESA and
> removed the video=vesafb... from the kernel line in
> grub.conf.
> 
> Then I put fbset -a 1024x768-76 in local.start and
> rebooted. The framebuffer opens up beautifully.

Excellent :) Always helps to ask someone who known what they're
talking about

> I think I should put it in /etc/inittab but where?
> Does it matter? Or maybe it should be
> video=aty128fb...on the kernel line. Still some
> tweaking to do. But I think most of the heavy lifting
> is over.

I would have thought video=aty128fb:[EMAIL PROTECTED] in grub.conf should
do it. Have a look at /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/aty128fb.txt
for a few other options.

I wouldn't mess around with inittab if you can possibly help it.

Glad to hear it's mostly working,

-Nick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Activate russian layout

2007-06-05 Thread vladimir

On 6/5/07, Marco Calviani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi list,
  i'm running gentoo with a US keyboard layout. However i would like
to add also a russian layout (with cyrillic fonts), to be used either
with the console and inside X. First of all i've tried to "Enable
keyboard layouts" with KDE, but when i try to write something with
this enabled i've got only "". Then i've tried also to add  this
section

Option "XkbLayout""us,ru"
Option "XkbOptions"   "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"

in xorg.conf but with no success.

Anyone can give me some hints on how to perform this operation?


Try:
Option "XkbRules"   "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel"   "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout"  "en,ru"
Option "XkbVariant" "winkeys"
Option "XkbOptions" "grp:caps_toggle,grp_led:caps"

I'm also suggest you to read
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/ru/guide-localization.xml & subscribe to
gentoo-user-ru mailing list.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Install Using another System

2007-06-05 Thread burlingk


> -Original Message-
> From: Florian Philipp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:53 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Install Using another System
> 
> 
> Am Montag 04 Juni 2007 23:28 schrieb darren kirby:
> > quoth the Randy Barlow:
> > > One more question - I'd like to install Gentoo on a very old and 
> > > small system that doesn't have a CD-ROM, or even an IDE 
> cable that 
> > > can connect two drives.  Can I put the harddrive from 
> that system on 
> > > my normal desktop and install as normal onto that drive?  The old 
> > > system has a very different and old processor from my 
> normal Gentoo 
> > > system (it's a Cyrix MediaGX MMX Enhanced according to 
> /proc/cpuinfo 
> > > with a whopping 16 kB of cache!)  Any problems doing 
> something like 
> > > this on a modern system that I haven't thought about?
> > >
> > > R
> >
> > Should be OK as long as the host system is an x86. I would use very 
> > conservative CFLAGS. Your CHOST will likely need to be 
> > "i386-pc-linux-gnu".
> >
> > There is a kernel config in "Processor family" that says 
> > "CyrixIII/Via-C3". Is that what you have? If not or if you are not 
> > sure then choose plain old "386".
> >
> > Grub should work alright, as best as I can figure, as long 
> as (as per 
> > the
> > guide) you install it onto the HDDs MBR.
> >
> > Maybe something I am not thinking of. Just make sure that 
> when going 
> > through the guide that anything that requires CPU specific 
> choices you 
> > remember to select for your target, not the host. This may have a 
> > side-effect of not booting whilst in the host, only when 
> you move the 
> > HDD to the target machine.
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> 
> Please note that Gentoo needs a i486 to work. You can still 
> optimize your code 
> for it, though. See http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#i386 
> for details.


There is also a flag in the same page as the Processor family for
Generic x86 support.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Activate russian layout

2007-06-05 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Dienstag 05 Juni 2007 10:04 schrieb Marco Calviani:
> Hi list,
>   i'm running gentoo with a US keyboard layout. However i would like
> to add also a russian layout (with cyrillic fonts), to be used either
> with the console and inside X. First of all i've tried to "Enable
> keyboard layouts" with KDE, but when i try to write something with
> this enabled i've got only "". Then i've tried also to add  this
> section
>
> Option "XkbLayout""us,ru"
> Option "XkbOptions"   "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"
>
> in xorg.conf but with no success.
>
> Anyone can give me some hints on how to perform this operation?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> marco

Did you make the last step on this here [1] with the right settings?
Are you sure that there are cyrillic fonts istalled? "emerge -s cyrillic" 
shows me that I could install several which are all masked.

[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=6


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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Using another System

2007-06-05 Thread Florian Philipp
Am Montag 04 Juni 2007 23:28 schrieb darren kirby:
> quoth the Randy Barlow:
> > One more question - I'd like to install Gentoo on a very old and small
> > system that doesn't have a CD-ROM, or even an IDE cable that can connect
> > two drives.  Can I put the harddrive from that system on my normal
> > desktop and install as normal onto that drive?  The old system has a
> > very different and old processor from my normal Gentoo system (it's a
> > Cyrix MediaGX MMX Enhanced according to /proc/cpuinfo with a whopping 16
> > kB of cache!)  Any problems doing something like this on a modern system
> > that I haven't thought about?
> >
> > R
>
> Should be OK as long as the host system is an x86. I would use very
> conservative CFLAGS. Your CHOST will likely need to be "i386-pc-linux-gnu".
>
> There is a kernel config in "Processor family" that says "CyrixIII/Via-C3".
> Is that what you have? If not or if you are not sure then choose plain old
> "386".
>
> Grub should work alright, as best as I can figure, as long as (as per the
> guide) you install it onto the HDDs MBR.
>
> Maybe something I am not thinking of. Just make sure that when going
> through the guide that anything that requires CPU specific choices you
> remember to select for your target, not the host. This may have a
> side-effect of not booting whilst in the host, only when you move the HDD
> to the target machine.
>
> Good luck!
>

Please note that Gentoo needs a i486 to work. You can still optimize your code 
for it, though. See http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags#i386 for details.


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[gentoo-user] Activate russian layout

2007-06-05 Thread Marco Calviani

Hi list,
 i'm running gentoo with a US keyboard layout. However i would like
to add also a russian layout (with cyrillic fonts), to be used either
with the console and inside X. First of all i've tried to "Enable
keyboard layouts" with KDE, but when i try to write something with
this enabled i've got only "". Then i've tried also to add  this
section

   Option "XkbLayout""us,ru"
   Option "XkbOptions"   "grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll"

in xorg.conf but with no success.

Anyone can give me some hints on how to perform this operation?

Thanks in advance,
marco
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Re: [gentoo-user] Help me reboot X

2007-06-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 June 2007, b.n. wrote:
> Run into that too. Exactly same situation -KDE, OO.org, heavy
> graphical editing (resizing images in Impress etc.), mouse moving but
> nothing responding, etc... Identical bug.
>
> I attributed the cause to the Beryl SVN I'm always running, so I
> didn't feel entitled to complain. If you are not running Beryl,
> however, it would be nice to know more -so to find what bug is or to
> file one.

I doubt it's beryl. I get similar symptoms every now and again using 
xorg-7.2, enlightenment-17 (latest cvs) and open source radeon driver

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Install Migration

2007-06-05 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 04 June 2007, Randy Barlow wrote:
> I've set up my desktop machine using LVM over software raid, and
> although I like it I'm getting weary of the complication of the setup
> for a simple desktop system.  What I would like to do is get the same
> install (packages, config files, etc) as are currently used, but have
> it all on one file system for simplicity.  I know I can use DD to
> copy a filesystem, but I don't think that will work in this case.  I
> was thinking of doing a fresh install and then using my backup of
> /etc to try and get the same setup.  If I copy the world file from
> the previous system and emerge -e world, will that get all the
> packages I currently have?  Afterwards I would just copy the rest of
> /etc into place and go about on my merry way.  Are there any problems
> with this approach?

No need to reinstall, you just need to shuffle some stuff around. But 
first, what is your setup?

Post the results of 'df -h', {pv,vg,lv}display and fdisk -l so I can see 
how big etc your partitions and volumes are. Also fstab

alan



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