Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot from livecd
Hello, you probably have a recent chipset (blanking on name currently) which is recent such that support is not yet present in the linux kernel...
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-headers
There is no harm in doing so :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot from livecd
The chipset is ICH8. So,is there anyway you see I can install gentoo on my machine? I have install Red Flag.But it 's i686 but not x86_64,so I can't chroot from the Red Flag to install Gentoo. 2007/10/7, Hex Star [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, you probably have a recent chipset (blanking on name currently) which is recent such that support is not yet present in the linux kernel... -- wcw -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot from livecd
Hi had the smae problem on a dell with this chipset. Its not so much the chipset, but that the dell has a gap in the numbering of devices attached to it that the livecd cant deal with. The cure was to boot from a redhat 7 livecd and install from that. Worked fine. Also, dell has a legacy mode for the chip selectable in the bios - install has to be done in legacy mode, which can then be disabled when the new system is up and running on its own kernel. google will help a lot with this one BillK Chuanwen Wu wrote: The chipset is ICH8. So,is there anyway you see I can install gentoo on my machine? I have install Red Flag.But it 's i686 but not x86_64,so I can't chroot from the Red Flag to install Gentoo. 2007/10/7, Hex Star [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, you probably have a recent chipset (blanking on name currently) which is recent such that support is not yet present in the linux kernel... -- wcw -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Bug in /etc/init.d/netmount?
Hi Dan, Dan Farrell wrote: AFAIK you are correct, this is a bug in a few of the initscripts that don't behave sensibly if the root fs is network mounted. thx for your answer a raised a bug report with the number: 194967. Bye Matthias -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the universe is winning. -- Rich Cook -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot from livecd
071007 Chuanwen Wu wrote: The chipset is ICH8. So,is there anyway you see I can install gentoo on my machine? You have an informed reply re your Dell, which I don't know, but more generally you could try to install from Knoppix -- that's what I used when I installed my current system 4 years ago -- or the simple but powerful System Rescue ( http://www.sysresccd.org/ ), which I plan to use when I install Gentoo on my soon-to-be-built box (it actually mentions installing Gentoo as a good use in its docs). I made a Gentoo Live CD for 'amd64', but am not impressed: unlike the other two, it couldn't use my full monitor resolution it also boots into a Gnome desktop (ugh grin). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot from livecd
Philip Webb schrieb: 071007 Chuanwen Wu wrote: The chipset is ICH8. So,is there anyway you see I can install gentoo on my machine? You have an informed reply re your Dell, which I don't know, but more generally you could try to install from Knoppix -- that's what I used when I installed my current system 4 years ago -- or the simple but powerful System Rescue ( http://www.sysresccd.org/ ), which I plan to use when I install Gentoo on my soon-to-be-built box (it actually mentions installing Gentoo as a good use in its docs). I made a Gentoo Live CD for 'amd64', but am not impressed: unlike the other two, it couldn't use my full monitor resolution it also boots into a Gnome desktop (ugh grin). Don't forget that you need a AMD64 livecd if you want to install an AMD64 system. There is no such thing like Knoppix64 but you should be fine with every other livecd, for example Ubuntu64 CDs. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Break In attempts
Hi All, Can you please advise what I could do to block IP addresses that have repeatedly failed to log in? I am looking here at a server which over the last week is being attacked daily with random usernames. So the only constant in these repeated attempts is not the username, but the IP address. Occasionally, the odd service name (e.g. rpc, mysql, postgres, etc.) repeats itself, otherwise they seem to be randomly selected from a dictionary. I have already disabled PAM authentication on sshd so that only users with a public key in their ~/.ssh can login. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Break In attempts
Am Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2007 11:40:10 schrieb Mick: Hi All, Can you please advise what I could do to block IP addresses that have repeatedly failed to log in? I think you're looking for: net-analyzer/fail2ban (http://www.fail2ban.org) Regards, Elias P. -- A really nice number: 09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
RE: [gentoo-user] Break In attempts
If you have iptables available in your kernel, a quick manual step could be to block all traffic incoming from that IP address. A statement like the following could work: iptables -I INPUT -s XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX -j DROP (This drops all traffic coming from IP address XXX... effectively, it simply looses the network packets and doesn't respond to it any more.) Of course this is a one time only, manual thing. There may also be processes/applications that automatically block unwanted IP traffic. Maybe somebody else may suggest such a solution (I'm not that familiar with this). Cheers, Joost -Original Message- From: Mick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: zondag 7 oktober 2007 11:40 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Break In attempts Hi All, Can you please advise what I could do to block IP addresses that have repeatedly failed to log in? I am looking here at a server which over the last week is being attacked daily with random usernames. So the only constant in these repeated attempts is not the username, but the IP address. Occasionally, the odd service name (e.g. rpc, mysql, postgres, etc.) repeats itself, otherwise they seem to be randomly selected from a dictionary. I have already disabled PAM authentication on sshd so that only users with a public key in their ~/.ssh can login. -- Regards, Mick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot from livecd
071007 Florian Philipp wrote: Philip Webb schrieb: more generally you could try to install from Knoppix -- that's what I used when I installed my current system 4 years ago -- or the simple but powerful System Rescue ( http://www.sysresccd.org/ ), which I plan to use when I install Gentoo on my soon-to-be-built box (it actually mentions installing Gentoo as a good use in its docs). I made a Gentoo Live CD for 'amd64', but am not impressed: unlike the other two, it couldn't use my full monitor resolution it also boots into a Gnome desktop (ugh grin). Don't forget that you need a AMD64 livecd if you want to install an AMD64 system. There is no such thing like Knoppix64 but you should be fine with every other livecd, for example Ubuntu64 CDs. You are probably correct that that mb a problem with Knoppix, but System Rescue 0.4.0 has a 'rescue64' kernel for that purpose (it came out the day after I wrote a CD using 0.3.8 ... ): hopefully, the 0.4.0 wb sufficient to get the installation going. I plan to use a USB stick to copy the necessary Gentoo files from my existing machine, whose system wb reproduced for 64 bits dual-core CPU. Further advice comments are welcome. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] LVM : pros cons
Does anyone have advice based on experience using LVM ? I sb partitioning a new 320 GB hard drive soon for a simple desktop box. That is 8 times the size of the HDD in my present machine, which I haven't exhausted by any means. LVM seems more professional allows flexibility for unforeseen storage needs, but it adds a layer of complexity potential problems arising therefrom. I wonder whether LVM slows down disk access whether there's a disaster lurking unseen if anything goes wrong with LVM: a bad package update, a damaged config file or file storing LVM's layout would seem to risk losing everything on the HDD require re-installation. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-headers
Hi, On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:38:33 -0700 Hex Star [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no harm in doing so :) If you say such things, please add a short explanation what makes you think that. After all this isn't IRC. In fact, I would not suggest doing that. While kernel developers do their best not to break existing interfaces unless they have real urge, the picture also might get bigger, i.e. more or different APIs. So I would not suggest running a userland based on headers with higher version than the actual kernel. Although I have to admit that I don't know if there candidates for unexpected behaviour and what those might be. -hwh -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM : pros cons
On Sunday 07 October 2007, Philip Webb wrote: Does anyone have advice based on experience using LVM ? I sb partitioning a new 320 GB hard drive soon for a simple desktop box. That is 8 times the size of the HDD in my present machine, which I haven't exhausted by any means. LVM seems more professional allows flexibility for unforeseen storage needs, but it adds a layer of complexity potential problems arising therefrom. I wonder whether LVM slows down disk access whether there's a disaster lurking unseen if anything goes wrong with LVM: a bad package update, a damaged config file or file storing LVM's layout would seem to risk losing everything on the HDD require re-installation. I'm using LVM for all my (linux-)computers (Servers, Desktops and Notebooks). The only filesystems not on LVM are / and /boot (I know that I can put / on a LVOL as well but I don't like to use initrd if I can avoid it). This is for example how my desktop looks like: /dev/hde1 /boot 30MB /dev/hde2 swap4GB /dev/hde3 / 500MB /dev/hde4 LVM-vg00 /dev/vg00/lvol01/usr4GB /dev/vg00/lvol02/var10GB /dev/vg00/lvol03/opt2GB /dev/vg00/lvol04/home/dan 4GB /dev/vg00/lvol05/home/ulle 4GB /dev/vg00/lvol06/tmp1GB /dev/vg00/lvol07/var/vmware/WinXP 28GB /dev/vg00/lvol08/usr/portage3GB The main reason for me for using LVM is that I can easily extend a filesystem on the fly or add a new one if necessary. -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! *** signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Break In attempts
On Sunday 07 October 2007, Elias Probst wrote: Am Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2007 11:40:10 schrieb Mick: Hi All, Can you please advise what I could do to block IP addresses that have repeatedly failed to log in? I think you're looking for: net-analyzer/fail2ban (http://www.fail2ban.org) Regards, Elias P. This looks just like what I want. Thanks! -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM : pros cons
Never had a problem with LVM. On a mythTV box with LVM, started with 80GB IDE, then added in a 300Gb IDE, then a few months later another 300mb, sata this time. Basicly transparent to Myth I have avoided LVM on laptops before now because its extra complexity and I'll never add multiple disks. But, on a sony laptop without LVM - I have discovered that when I partitioned it in a rush ~18 months ago, I made the diagnostic partition 5 GBytes instead of 5 mbytes - and now I need the space. My options are to format it and symlink it into the tree, wipe and start again or image, repartition and restore. All have big disadvantages because this is my primary, work, not owned by me laptop (!). It would have been so much easier if I had used LVM ... On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 07:01 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: Does anyone have advice based on experience using LVM ? I sb partitioning a new 320 GB hard drive soon for a simple desktop box. That is 8 times the size of the HDD in my present machine, which I haven't exhausted by any means. LVM seems more professional allows flexibility for unforeseen storage needs, but it adds a layer of complexity potential problems arising therefrom. I wonder whether LVM slows down disk access whether there's a disaster lurking unseen if anything goes wrong with LVM: a bad package update, a damaged config file or file storing LVM's layout would seem to risk losing everything on the HDD require re-installation. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot from livecd
2007/10/7, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi had the smae problem on a dell with this chipset. Its not so much the chipset, but that the dell has a gap in the numbering of devices attached to it that the livecd cant deal with. The cure was to boot from a redhat 7 livecd and install from that. redhat7 is 32bit os, is is right?So I suppose you install a 32bit os in a 64bit machine. Worked fine. Also, dell has a legacy mode for the chip selectable in the bios - install has to be done in legacy mode, which can then be disabled when the new system is up and running on its own kernel. But in my dell1400,I can't find any legacy mode? google will help a lot with this one BillK Chuanwen Wu wrote: The chipset is ICH8. So,is there anyway you see I can install gentoo on my machine? I have install Red Flag.But it 's i686 but not x86_64,so I can't chroot from the Red Flag to install Gentoo. 2007/10/7, Hex Star [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, you probably have a recent chipset (blanking on name currently) which is recent such that support is not yet present in the linux kernel... -- wcw -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home in Perth! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- wcw -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Break In attempts
Hi, Am Sonntag, 07. Okt 2007, 10:40:10 +0100 schrieb Mick: Can you please advise what I could do to block IP addresses that have repeatedly failed to log in? I am looking here at a server which over the last week is being attacked daily with random usernames. So the only constant in these repeated attempts is not the username, but the IP address. Occasionally, the odd service name (e.g. rpc, mysql, postgres, etc.) repeats itself, otherwise they seem to be randomly selected from a dictionary. This is a _real_ nuisance. Besides that I doubt there is any meaningful harvest. I have already disabled PAM authentication on sshd so that only users with a public key in their ~/.ssh can login. Host-based authentication is one possible solution. Fail2ban was already mentioned, too. A bit more difficult is the ban by iptables. This one is working here successfully for quite some time: SSH_WHITELIST=192.168.0.0/16 11.22.33.44 IPT='/sbin/iptables -v' iptsshdefence() { $IPT -N sshwhite for t in $SSH_WHITELIST do $IPT -A sshwhite -s $t -m recent --remove --name SSH -j ACCEPT done # $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -j LOG --log-prefix 'SSH request ' $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -m recent --set --name SSH $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -j sshwhite # $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -m recent --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 4 --rttl --name SSH -j LOG --log-prefix 'SSH brute_force ' $IPT -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW -m recent --update --seconds 60 --hitcount 4 --rttl --name SSH -j REJECT } Of course you need a kernel with recent module and reject target support compiled in. Thanks a lot again to this list! Bertram -- Bertram Scharpf Stuttgart, Deutschland/Germany http://www.bertram-scharpf.de -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot from livecd
On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 20:07 +0800, Chuanwen Wu wrote: 2007/10/7, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi had the smae problem on a dell with this chipset. Its not so much the chipset, but that the dell has a gap in the numbering of devices attached to it that the livecd cant deal with. The cure was to boot from a redhat 7 livecd and install from that. redhat7 is 32bit os, is is right?So I suppose you install a 32bit os in a 64bit machine. Worked fine. Also, dell has a legacy mode for the chip selectable in the bios - install has to be done in legacy mode, which can then be disabled when the new system is up and running on its own kernel. But in my dell1400,I can't find any legacy mode? google will help a lot with this one BillK yes - there are (were?) a few incompatibilities still with 64 bit os'es that dont exist with 32 bit. Basicly, there still doesnt seem to be a compelling reason to go 64bit for a desktop at the moment. Servers are a different matter. I cant access the machine at the moment, so I cant get the bios links- its somewhere in the disk area. BillK -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] no sound with mplayer
Hello, Time to time I have problem with mplayer. The sound for some video files doesn't work (mainly for DVDs). The problem is: *** Requested audio codec family [a52] (afm=liba52) not available. Enable it at compilation. Requested audio codec family [ac3] (afm=libac3) not available. Enable it at compilation. Requested audio codec family [hwac3] (afm=hwac3) not available. Enable it at compilation. Cannot find codec for audio format 0x2000. *** Please, could someone point me to the solution? Thanks a lot. Pat -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: **SPAM** [gentoo-user] no sound with mplayer
Dnia 2007-10-07, o godz. 15:45:50 pat [EMAIL PROTECTED] napisał(a): Hello, Time to time I have problem with mplayer. The sound for some video files doesn't work (mainly for DVDs). The problem is: *** Requested audio codec family [a52] (afm=liba52) not available. Enable it at compilation. Requested audio codec family [ac3] (afm=libac3) not available. Enable it at compilation. Requested audio codec family [hwac3] (afm=hwac3) not available. Enable it at compilation. Cannot find codec for audio format 0x2000. *** Please, could someone point me to the solution? Thanks a lot. Pat have you active a52 USE flag active ?? -- Jaros�aw Drob, Przyjdziemy i Spie***ymy - poznaj kandydata! Kliknij http://link.interia.pl/f1bef -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-headers
On Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2007, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: Hi, On Sat, 6 Oct 2007 23:38:33 -0700 Hex Star [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no harm in doing so :) If you say such things, please add a short explanation what makes you think that. After all this isn't IRC. In fact, I would not suggest doing that. While kernel developers do their best not to break existing interfaces unless they have real urge, the picture also might get bigger, i.e. more or different APIs. So I would not suggest running a userland based on headers with higher version than the actual kernel. Although I have to admit that I don't know if there candidates for unexpected behaviour and what those might be. -hwh the linux-headers and the kernel are completly off -sync. There is no harm in using headers with a higher/lower version number. But(!) you should not downgrade headers, this can cause very severe problems. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with mplayer
Daniel Pielmeier wrote: pat schrieb: Hello, Time to time I have problem with mplayer. The sound for some video files doesn't work (mainly for DVDs). The problem is: *** Requested audio codec family [a52] (afm=liba52) not available. Enable it at compilation. Requested audio codec family [ac3] (afm=libac3) not available. Enable it at compilation. Requested audio codec family [hwac3] (afm=hwac3) not available. Enable it at compilation. Cannot find codec for audio format 0x2000. *** Please, could someone point me to the solution? Thanks a lot. Pat You probably need to build mplayer with the a52 USE flag. YES that's it :-) Thanks a lot !!! Pat -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot from livecd
2007/10/7, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 20:07 +0800, Chuanwen Wu wrote: 2007/10/7, William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi had the smae problem on a dell with this chipset. Its not so much the chipset, but that the dell has a gap in the numbering of devices attached to it that the livecd cant deal with. The cure was to boot from a redhat 7 livecd and install from that. redhat7 is 32bit os, is is right?So I suppose you install a 32bit os in a 64bit machine. Worked fine. Also, dell has a legacy mode for the chip selectable in the bios - install has to be done in legacy mode, which can then be disabled when the new system is up and running on its own kernel. But in my dell1400,I can't find any legacy mode? google will help a lot with this one BillK yes - there are (were?) a few incompatibilities still with 64 bit os'es that dont exist with 32 bit. Basicly, there still doesnt seem to be a compelling reason to go 64bit for a desktop at the moment. Servers are a different matter. I think a 64bit os in a 64bit machine is faster than a 32bit os in most conditions.Do you think so? I cant access the machine at the moment, so I cant get the bios links- its somewhere in the disk area. Although I have checked the bios options very *carefully*,I hope your link:). BillK -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- wcw -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot from livecd
Hello William Kenworthy, Basicly, there still doesnt seem to be a compelling reason to go 64bit for a desktop at the moment. Doesn't that rather depend on your intended use of the desktop? Some apps benefit greatly fro the 64 bit environment. -- Neil Bothwick The best antiques are old friends. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Can't boot from livecd
On Sun, 7 Oct 2007 23:13:21 +0800 Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes - there are (were?) a few incompatibilities still with 64 bit os'es that dont exist with 32 bit. Basicly, there still doesnt seem to be a compelling reason to go 64bit for a desktop at the moment. Servers are a different matter. I think a 64bit os in a 64bit machine is faster than a 32bit os in most conditions.Do you think so? I would like to agree, but I haven't seen compelling evidence, having run both ways. I guess it seems like 64 might be a little faster, especially when it comes to swapping massive amounts of RAM and similar heavy lifting. 32-bit certainly _isn't_ going to be faster. 32-bit also means wasting half your cpu hardware. on the other hand, 32bit means running the same arch. as most everyone. that makes it easier. But i think in 'most conditions' these two modes, run on the same chip, will perform nearly identically. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM : pros cons
Philip Webb schrieb: Does anyone have advice based on experience using LVM ? I sb partitioning a new 320 GB hard drive soon for a simple desktop box. That is 8 times the size of the HDD in my present machine, which I haven't exhausted by any means. LVM seems more professional allows flexibility for unforeseen storage needs, but it adds a layer of complexity potential problems arising therefrom. I wonder whether LVM slows down disk access whether there's a disaster lurking unseen if anything goes wrong with LVM: a bad package update, a damaged config file or file storing LVM's layout would seem to risk losing everything on the HDD require re-installation. Simple pros and cons? Pro: More flexible, especially when using a special setup [1], can easily be expanded to RAID1 and/or RAID0 (even both at the same time!). Cons: - Can't be used with Windows. Even worse, Windows sees the partition as unformatted rather than unknown and therefore might have no problem formatting it without warning. - Can't be used for /boot, usage for / needs initrd (my advice: keep /boot, /bin, /sbin and /etc on a normal partition). - It's one more thing that can break. - You can't use *parted to resize the underlying partitions. - I had trouble mounting my lvm /home partition (mirrored) with Ubuntu, possibly a missing kernel module in the default kernel or missing use flag. I didn't try to fix it, though. - You loose bit performance, but not much, you won't feel it without benchmarks. [1] Some simple advices: Create small logical volumes. It's easier to expand them than to shrink them (expanding reiserfs takes less than 5 minutes). If you are not shure wether you might need more space on ordinary dos partitions later on, don't create one big partition for lvm but several smaller. That makes management a bit more complicated (especially when you are unfamiliar with the tools and/ or have several physical disks) but you can simply reformat one of them if the need arises (see man pvmove for more information). -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-headers
At Sun, 07 Oct 2007 16:06:41 +0200 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the linux-headers and the kernel are completly off -sync. There is no harm in using headers with a higher/lower version number. But(!) you should not downgrade headers, this can cause very severe problems. thanks, allan -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Perl module problem
Hi, Does /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/Scalar/Util.pm exist? What is the output of perl -le 'print foreach @INC' By the way, I run urxvt fine with the Scalar::Util that comes with perl. do you have something like /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i686-linux-thread-multi/auto/List/Util/Util.so Moshe * Naga Toro [EMAIL PROTECTED] [05/10/07 16:06]: Hi, I have two machines that uses x11-terms/rxvt-unicode-8.3. One is ~amd64 and one is ~x86, both have the same version of perl and perl-core/Scalar-List-Utils. One can use the perl extensions (~amd64 one) and one gives this error on startup: urxvt: perl hook 0 evaluation error: Undefined subroutine Scalar::Util::weaken called at /usr/lib/urxvt/urxvt.pm line 1191 nonworking: $ strace urxvt 21 | egrep 'open.*perl' /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/Scalar/Util.pm /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/List/Util.pm working: $ strace urxvt 21 | egrep 'open.*perl' /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/Scalar/Util.pm /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/List/Util.pm /usr/lib64/perl5/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/XSLoader.pm /usr/lib64/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.8/x86_64-linux/auto/List/Util/Util.so This indicates that the working uses perl-core/Scalar-List-Utils but the nonworking uses dev-lang/perl, but why? Does anyone have an idea as to how I can debug this? -- Naga -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list pgpW9OEbp6ztO.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Break In attempts
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mick wrote: I have already disabled PAM authentication on sshd so that only users with a public key in their ~/.ssh can login. This is the first and most important step. This means that the only real problem is that your logs fill with failed log in attempts. The easiest way I have found to avoid that is to change the port number of the SSH daemon to something else than 22. - -- Remy -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFHCSKRCeNfIyhvXjIRAgiBAKCNqpLd1XzZWcEm74DVbZyL9CpmCgCgmN5X FJWRjHgHrwHlv9vYT8jz5tM= =njTK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM : pros cons
On Sunday 07 October 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: Philip Webb schrieb: Does anyone have advice based on experience using LVM ? snip Simple pros and cons? Pro: snip - You loose bit performance, but not much, you won't feel it without benchmarks. I very much doubt this. LVM is one extra layer between the filesystem and the physical disk and it basically consists of a mapping between the extents in the VG and exactly where they are on the volume. This is nothing more than an elementary lookup table; on a 500G VG using 32M extents this consists of precisely 15,625 entries, it can all be stored in RAM and can consist of one pointer plus precisely one calculation to determine the offset from the start of the table where the desired extent lies. Considering that RAM runs at many orders of magnitude faster than the disk you are trying to get the data off of, the extra fraction of a % overhead is not even worth trying to measure, let alone benchmark it. Moving the heads just once more because of file fragmentation probably takes longer than the entire LVM lookup alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Break In attempts
On Sunday 07 October 2007, Remy Blank wrote: Mick wrote: I have already disabled PAM authentication on sshd so that only users with a public key in their ~/.ssh can login. This is the first and most important step. This means that the only real problem is that your logs fill with failed log in attempts. The easiest way I have found to avoid that is to change the port number of the SSH daemon to something else than 22. That's right, my standard practice for this sort of problem is to disable root passwd authentication in favour of public key and then move the ssh port away from the bots. The problem is that on this occasion, this is not my server. I'll have a word with the owner and see what he thinks. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM : pros cons
On Sunday 07 October 2007, Philip Webb wrote: Does anyone have advice based on experience using LVM ? The majority of folks around here will have used LVM :-) I sb partitioning a new 320 GB hard drive soon for a simple desktop box. That is 8 times the size of the HDD in my present machine, which I haven't exhausted by any means. LVM seems more professional allows flexibility for unforeseen storage needs, this is it's main benefit on desktop class machines - the ability to resize volumes when you realize that you guessed wrong. There are others too :-) but it adds a layer of complexity potential problems arising therefrom. A total non-issue in my experience. I've never had an LVM problem yet, but maybe I'm just lucky. The one thing you do need to be aware of it that you require LVM support at boot time or shortly thereafter. So either compile it into the kernel, or make sure it's in the initrd. For a gentoo system using roll-your-own kernels, the consensus seems to be a regular / volume of 500M-1G is plenty and everything else is on LVM. That way you avoid the issues of not having the required support to be able to mount /. We don't build distro kernels that must boot on everything out there, we have the luxury of customizing everything I wonder whether LVM slows down disk access No. See my other mail. whether there's a disaster lurking unseen if anything goes wrong with LVM: a bad package update, a damaged config file or file storing LVM's layout would seem to risk losing everything on the HDD require re-installation. Not true. You *already* have many layers of software between user space and disk, any one of which can go wrong at any time. LVM metadata is stored in text files and it maintains many historical copies of previous configs and it's easy to fix if it ever goes wrong. I've never seen a *real* LVM error, but I have matched myself do some really dumb things and I could fix them every time. Seriously, the problem LVM solves has been known about for decades and the method used was worked out about the same time. It's a mature technology that is *very* well understood, completely the opposite of drivers to support some latest new-fangled chipset. I would be much more worried about that code trashing your disk than LVM. Just to put it all into perspective... Extra benefits of LVM: You won't need this right now for your simple desktop with one drive, but it's good to know what else LVM can do: Snapshots. You can freeze the state of a filesystem at any time and LVM will track the changes since then until you release the snapshot. This is a lifesaver if your job is to perform backups of 4TB databases that can never be taken down for backups. Huge volumes: LVM is the only way on Linux to be able to get local volumes bigger than any single disk. Again, on servers, 2TB+ databases are becoming commonplace. If you need any more convincing, IBM mainframes and HP machines running HP-UX have required you to use LVM for years now - you can't get to the disks without using LVM. If it was risky, do you think those hardware vendors would have gone down that route? alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with mplayer
On Sunday 07 October 2007, pat wrote: Hello, Time to time I have problem with mplayer. The sound for some video files doesn't work (mainly for DVDs). The problem is: *** Requested audio codec family [a52] (afm=liba52) not available. Enable it at compilation. Requested audio codec family [ac3] (afm=libac3) not available. Enable it at compilation. Requested audio codec family [hwac3] (afm=hwac3) not available. Enable it at compilation. Cannot find codec for audio format 0x2000. *** Please, could someone point me to the solution? You haven't supplied any real information about your system, so it's impossible to tell what the problem really is. Based on your error message the first thing I'd check is if you have the required codec support compiled into mplayer. Please post the output of 'eix -e mplayer' alan -- Optimists say the glass is half full, Pessimists say the glass is half empty, Developers say wtf is the glass twice as big as it needs to be? Alan McKinnon alan at linuxholdings dot co dot za +27 82, double three seven, one nine three five -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Break In attempts
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Re: [gentoo-user] Break In attempts
Mick wrote: Can you please advise what I could do to block IP addresses that have repeatedly failed to log in? You can also have a look at denyhosts... -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-headers
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: But(!) you should not downgrade headers, this can cause very severe problems. Could you give an example? Benno -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] linux-headers
On Montag, 8. Oktober 2007, Benno Schulenberg wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: But(!) you should not downgrade headers, this can cause very severe problems. Could you give an example? ok, example. I might be totally wrong, so don't believe me: The splice system call was added with 2.6.17 and corresponding headers. If you build an application that has optinal (on compile time) support for this, but downgrade the headers after that to say... 2.6.10 you might see funny stuff happening. Headers are backward compatible, not forward compatible. glibc is similar - just try to downgrade glibc. You can't, portage won't allow it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM : pros cons
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 07 October 2007, Florian Philipp wrote: - You loose bit performance, but not much, you won't feel it without benchmarks. I very much doubt this. LVM is one extra layer between the filesystem and the physical disk and it basically consists of a mapping between the extents in the VG and exactly where they are on the volume. This is nothing more than an elementary lookup table; on a 500G VG using 32M extents this consists of precisely 15,625 entries, it can all be stored in RAM and can consist of one pointer plus precisely one calculation to determine the offset from the start of the table where the desired extent lies. Considering that RAM runs at many orders of magnitude faster than the disk you are trying to get the data off of, the extra fraction of a % overhead is not even worth trying to measure, let alone benchmark it. Moving the heads just once more because of file fragmentation probably takes longer than the entire LVM lookup A year or two ago it was possible to measure a performance hit - for instance we had some Supermicro PCI-X based machines with 3Ware RAID cards where we could get (quoting from memory here as it was a while ago) uncached sequential scan rates of about 1Gb/s without LVM and somewhere in the region of 800Mb/s with it. However that was then, and this is now - LVM and hardware have no doubt improved , so it would be interesting to do the test again (if we do I'll let you know). I would think that for the OP's use case (i.e 1 disk on a desktop box) there will be no measurable difference at all. Cheers Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] metacity does not start
i'm wondering if anyone else has this problem, or even better, a solution for it: since i've upgraded to gnome-2.18.x i have to start metacity manually at least sometimes after logging in. that is, in about 1 of 4 logins, i don't have a usable desktop till i type metacity into some terminal. apart from this annoying behavior, gnome seems to be fine. here are some parts of my configuration: $ emerge --info Portage 2.1.3.9 (default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4, 2.6.22-gentoo-r8 x86_64) [...] ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64 CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=nocona -O2 -pipe CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu [...] USE=3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aac acpi alsa amd64 berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cairo caps cddb cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dri dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode evo exif fam ffmpeg firefox flac fortran gd gdbm gif gimp gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk hal hddtemp iconv icu ipod ipv6 isdnlog java jpeg jpeg2k lcms ldap libnotify lm_sensors mad matroska midi mikmod mmap mmx mmxext mono mp3 mpeg mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nvidia ogg opengl openmp pam pcre pdf perl plotutils png pppd python qt3support quicktime readline reflection ruby sdl session spell spl sse sse2 ssl ssse3 svg tcpd tetex theora threads tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb vcd vorbis xattr xml xorg xv xvid zlib ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol CAMERAS=canon konica ptp2 kodak ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux [...] i'm using: x11-wm/metacity-2.18.5 USE=-debug -xinerama x11-libs/gtk+-2.10.14 USE=X jpeg tiff -debug -doc -xinerama gnome-base/gnome-session-2.18.3 USE=ipv6 tcpd -branding -debug -esd gnome-base/gnome-light-2.18.3 also note, that the system i'm using has been installed from scratch just a bit more than a month ago and i'm having this problem ever since. thanks, matthias -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM : pros cons
On Sun, Oct 07, 2007 at 09:26:33PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: A total non-issue in my experience. I've never had an LVM problem yet, but maybe I'm just lucky. The one thing you do need to be aware of it that you require LVM support at boot time or shortly thereafter. So either compile it into the kernel, or make sure it's in the initrd. I had a problem once, scared me to pieces until I got past it. An emerge had removed a library which was still used by the lvm command. ldd lvm showed not found. Boot didn't like that. I got lucky; a rescue disk allowed me to create a bogus symlink to the old library so that boot could proceed, at which point I remerged the broken command and no longer needed the bogus symlink. I have since written a perl program which looks for such broken libs. I have no idea why gentoo's revdep-rebuild didn't find it. I still use LVM and even gentoo, but I am also increasingly wary of gentoo updates. -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] metacity does not start
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Re: [gentoo-user] metacity does not start
On Sun, 2007-10-07 at 17:25 -0700, Hex Star wrote: You should take note of the error message that occurs when you experience this problem and paste the error msg here well, that would be indeed a very good idea; however, i don't start gnome from a terminal but from gdm and i don't know where to look for error messages in this case... maybe i can see if the problem can be reproduced by using startx and maybe i get some error messages there... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] metacity does not start
On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 01:50 +0200, Matthias Langer wrote: i'm wondering if anyone else has this problem, or even better, a solution for it: since i've upgraded to gnome-2.18.x i have to start metacity manually at least sometimes after logging in. that is, in about 1 of 4 logins, i don't have a usable desktop till i type metacity into some terminal. apart from this annoying behavior, gnome seems to be fine. here are some parts of my configuration: $ emerge --info Portage 2.1.3.9 (default-linux/amd64/2007.0/desktop, gcc-4.1.2, glibc-2.5-r4, 2.6.22-gentoo-r8 x86_64) [...] ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=amd64 CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-march=nocona -O2 -pipe CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu [...] USE=3dnow 3dnowext X a52 aac acpi alsa amd64 berkdb bitmap-fonts bzip2 cairo caps cddb cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dbus dri dvd dvdr dvdread eds emboss encode evo exif fam ffmpeg firefox flac fortran gd gdbm gif gimp gnome gphoto2 gpm gstreamer gtk hal hddtemp iconv icu ipod ipv6 isdnlog java jpeg jpeg2k lcms ldap libnotify lm_sensors mad matroska midi mikmod mmap mmx mmxext mono mp3 mpeg mudflap ncurses nls nptl nptlonly nvidia ogg opengl openmp pam pcre pdf perl plotutils png pppd python qt3support quicktime readline reflection ruby sdl session spell spl sse sse2 ssl ssse3 svg tcpd tetex theora threads tiff truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts unicode usb vcd vorbis xattr xml xorg xv xvid zlib ALSA_PCM_PLUGINS=adpcm alaw asym copy dmix dshare dsnoop empty extplug file hooks iec958 ioplug ladspa lfloat linear meter mulaw multi null plug rate route share shm softvol CAMERAS=canon konica ptp2 kodak ELIBC=glibc INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse evdev KERNEL=linux [...] i'm using: x11-wm/metacity-2.18.5 USE=-debug -xinerama x11-libs/gtk+-2.10.14 USE=X jpeg tiff -debug -doc -xinerama gnome-base/gnome-session-2.18.3 USE=ipv6 tcpd -branding -debug -esd gnome-base/gnome-light-2.18.3 also note, that the system i'm using has been installed from scratch just a bit more than a month ago and i'm having this problem ever since. thanks, matthias I had this problem and solved it by deleting ~/.gnome ~/.gnome2 and ~/.gnome2_private -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Apache 2.2.6 missing /etc/apache2/mime.types
Hi! I just upgraded from Apache 2.0.x to 2.2.6 and am working out kinks. Right now I see * Caching service dependencies ... [ ok ] * Starting apache2 ... [ !! ] There is nothing in /var/log/messages and /var/log/apache2/error_log shows [Sun Oct 07 22:51:36 2007] [error] (2)No such file or directory: could not open mime types config file /etc/apache2/mime.types. I admittedly don't have this file, but I also don't know if a) I am supposed to have this file and am missing it for some reason, or if b) I don't need the file but some config file somewhere thinks I do. I see a package called mime-types, but it seems to install /etc/mime.types and not /etc/apache2/mime.types... Help? -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache 2.2.6 missing /etc/apache2/mime.types
Randy Barlow wrote: I see a package called mime-types, but it seems to install /etc/mime.types and not /etc/apache2/mime.types... Help? I found a temporary solution by symlinking /etc/apache2/mime.types to /etc/mime.types, but that doesn't seem like the correct way to go... -- Randy Barlow http://electronsweatshop.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache 2.2.6 missing /etc/apache2/mime.types
Randy Barlow wrote: Randy Barlow wrote: I see a package called mime-types, but it seems to install /etc/mime.types and not /etc/apache2/mime.types... Help? I found a temporary solution by symlinking /etc/apache2/mime.types to /etc/mime.types, but that doesn't seem like the correct way to go... Change the TypesConfig directive in Apache2 to the location of your mime.types file (in this case, /etc/mime.types). For example, my machine does this: mybox ~ # grep TypesConfig /etc/apache2/httpd.conf # TypesConfig describes where the mime.types file (or equivalent) is TypesConfig /etc/mime.types -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list