Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS problem

2008-01-06 Thread Dale
Alan E. Davis wrote:
> CUPS has been working flawlessly for quite some time, one of the feats
> of newer GNU/Linux installs (to one who couldn't get an HP mainstream
> inkjet working right some 10 years ago).Simultaneously, I notices
> that Apple now owns the copyright, and after a recent upgrade, stopped
> working.
>
> I have to blame myself, because running cfg-update, the changes to
> /etc/cups/cupsd.conf were considerable, involving three, and not two
> files to be merged.  The interface of xxdiff is not intuitive, to me:
> I've blundered through it's kludgey structure for a while, but this
> time I was genuinely confused.  Furthermore, I made the mistake of
> taking a stab in the dark.
>
> So I uninstalled CUPS completely, and reinstalled.  Then installed the
> printer again.  It is doing the same thing: the interface at
> localhost:631 says that the printer is ready to print.  Any job sent
> to the queue, including test prints, are immediately "stopped".
> Reprint a job, and it is immediately stopped.
>
> Hypotheses:
>New ASUS M2N-E Motherboard (was working before upgrading CUPS)
>Configuration file issues.  (I have deleted the entire directory
> /etc/cups, and the new derault file was replaced with a simplified one
> scavenged of a mailing list, but with no improvement.
>Unknown factors (where to start?)
>
> So I am turning to the mailing list for suggestions.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Alan Davis
>
>   

I ran into something similar to the a while back and I had to un-merge
cups, delete the config files, then reemerge cups and reconfigure my
printer.   Keep in mind that when you unmerge something, the config
files remain in /etc unchanged.

This may not help your situation but I hope it does.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A pared down kernel config

2008-01-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 06 January 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> People in this thread speak of 2 and 3 boots and editing in between
> in the same message where `5 minutes' is mentioned.  That doesn't
> wash. You're way past that time frame.  But still not in the guiness
> book realm I guess... hehe.

I guess the English phrase '5 minutes' is a symlink to another longer 
phrase: 'A reasonably short period of time that doesn't cause me 
massive amounts of inconvenience'. I have a spare 2.6.23-gentoo source 
tree here with everything enabled. With no changes to the config a 
second 'make' still takes 2m29.414s

2 to 3 boots with a new kernel version, especially one where sub-systems 
like libata got moved around, sounds perfectly reasonable.
>
> > Removing all these unused drivers is the single largest improvement
> > in reducing kernel size. The general rule with drivers is that if
> > you are familiar with YOUR hardware and you've never heard of
> > something in the config then you don't have it and don't need it
> > :-)
>
> Just to know more on this... Is there really any reason to worry
> about kernel size... I mean in most cases with a standard desktop
> install?

By "kernel size" I actually meant disk space used, including it's 
modules.

Seeing as almost every other mainstream distro gives you a full-featured 
kernel with all modules included and /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ weighs in 
at around 400M, I'd say no, it's not worth worrying about.

Some people do worry about it, and that's cool for them. Some folk do 
lots of kernel testing, if they have 10 kernel versions on disk then it 
does become a factor. The beauty of gentoo is that if you don't feel 
like caring, you don't have to.

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A pared down kernel config

2008-01-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 06 January 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Erik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] skrev:
> >> Then you are stuck figuring out what on earth a hypervisor is.
> >
> > Alt+F2
> > wp:hypervisor
> > ENTER
>
> Hey thats a pretty neat trick.  Now if I wondered if that would be
> important since I plan to run a vmware application... I will take
> more digging.  It mentions vmware but not clear if this is important
> to it.

No, it's not relevant in this case. vmware is a virtualisation app, but 
doesn't use a hypervisor - it's a regular application with some custom 
kernel modules. kvm, xen and (I think) qemu do use hypervisors so this 
feature needs to be in the kernel for them.

Virtualisation is a vast field covering many many different techniques, 
each with their own pros and cons. The technique vmware uses makes it 
very easy to install, use and configure your virtual machine (it's just 
a bunch of big files), but the performance frankly sucks. At the other 
extreme you get VServer which runs like a bomb but is tightly tied onto 
the host machine running it. Somewhere in the middle we have xen and 
it's simpler cousin kvm - due to hypervisors they give very good 
performance and are relatively easy to configure and maintain.

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Re: [gentoo-user] A pared down kernel config

2008-01-06 Thread Florian Philipp

On Sat, 2008-01-05 at 19:06 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> trial-and-error is probably your best bet. Get it working with a full 
> genkernel setup. Note which modules get used in real life, start 
> removing them in batches and make notes when stuff breaks
> 
> There's a reason for the existence of genkernel - it's so that you don't 
> have to go through all this pain and suffering, and can instead remove 
> stuff a bit at a time with reasonable confidence it won;t blow up in 
> your face :-)
> 

There is a fairly easy trick to get rid of pointless options like unused
drivers even if you are not sure about your hardware or the kernel
options themselves: 
Compile them as modules, then boot the new kernel. If the modules don't
get loaded (lsmod is your friend) and everything works fine, throw them
out of your configuration.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB Wireless Network Adapter?

2008-01-06 Thread TimeBreach
Yes i've the same:

ls /lib/firmware/rt73.bin
/lib/firmware/rt73.bin

But i don't remember to setted up it.
Grant a écrit :
>> For rt73usb no firmware is needed. Just use vanilla kernel built-in module.
>>
>> as i did:
>>
>> CONFIG_RT2X00=m
>> CONFIG_RT2X00_LIB=m
>> CONFIG_RT2X00_LIB_USB=m
>> CONFIG_RT2X00_LIB_FIRMWARE=y
>> # CONFIG_RT2400PCI is not set
>> # CONFIG_RT2500PCI is not set
>> # CONFIG_RT61PCI is not set
>> # CONFIG_RT2500USB is not set
>> CONFIG_RT73USB=m
>> CONFIG_RT2X00_LIB_DEBUGFS=y
>> CONFIG_RT2X00_DEBUG=y
>>
>> With:
>>
>> [I] sys-kernel/vanilla-sources
>>  Installed versions:  2.6.24_rc5(2.6.24_rc5)(02:05:20
>> 16.12.2007)(-build -symlink)
>>  Homepage:http://www.kernel.org
>>  Description: Full sources for the Linux kernel
> 
> I'm using vanilla-sources-2.6.24-rc6 and I have the same options
> enabled as you except for the debug stuff, but the driver only works
> if I have /lib/firmware/rt73.bin which is installed by the
> bugs.gentoo.org ebuild for rt73-.  Can you verify that you don't
> have that file?
> 
> - Grant
> 
>> Regards, Kalden.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: A pared down kernel config

2008-01-06 Thread Jan-Hendrik Zab
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 10:58:12 +0400
Yahya Mohammad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > > Just to know more on this... Is there really any reason to worry
> > > about kernel size... I mean in most cases with a standard desktop
> > > install?
> > >
> > 
> > yes. Bigger kernel = more cpu cache used up = slower system.
> 
> Does all of the kernel reside in cpu cache all the time? Or can parts
> of it get moved to system RAM? What about modules that are loaded from
> disk?

No, it does not. The CPU caches are used differently. Partly, they
become something like read-ahead caches due to the fact that the CPU
can only read hole cache lines.

See http://lwn.net/Articles/252125/ for a good and recent documentation.

Jan-Hendrik Zab

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[gentoo-user] Autofs or ivman?

2008-01-06 Thread Stroller

Hi there,

I was on #gentoo yesterday asking about autofs & someone recommended  
ivman instead.

Which does gentoo-users think I should use?

My principal interest is in NFS mounting /usr/portage on my PS3 & an  
old laptop, as neither has a lot of disk-space - I have an always-on  
server that can export the directory - but also in mounting a bunch  
of /media/video/[0..9]/ directories.


I guess I'm likely to use CD / DVD in the near future & USB / CF  
flash memory at some point in the future - I can imagine it being  
desirable to have the system mount one device as /mnt/external- 
harddrive and another at /media/photos (determined by device / vendor  
ID?) but I'm not sure if this is the job of the automounter or udev?


Reading the autofs howto [1], it bothers me that common practice is  
to have a bunch of /mnt/auto/foo, /mnt/auto/bar, directories  
symlinked into the places they're REALLY supposed to go. Another  
guide makes a /var/autofs/ tree of directories, but whatever - why do  
I have to have this extra clutter of all these extra symlinks?!?! I  
just want the network filesystem to be mounted in some sensible  
place, just as if I'd typed `mount server:/usr/portage /usr/portage`.  
I appreciate there's probably a good reason for the way autofs works,  
bit it does make ivman look more interesting.


My concern with ivman is that googling it doesn't turn up a bunch of  
beginners' guides the way googling autofs does. The ivman howto [3]  
discusses incompatibility problems with different versions, and  
indicates that the /etc/init.d/script isn't provided by the ebuild,  
but must be managed outside of portage. I don't have a problem with  
that, per-se, but it suggests to me that ivman isn't so well  
supported, a suggestion which seems to be supported by ivman's  
sourceforge page [4] which was last updated February last year and  
which says "Ivman is currently developed by ?"


So it's a bit of a dilemma for me. Because of my compulsive nature,  
autofs' clutter of symlinks really bothers me, and ivman's  
ConfigActions look really powerful - it looks like you can have it  
automatically exec a command when a specific device is plugged in,  
for instance.


But I want to set this up once & forget it - I really don't want to  
be learning & configuring now a package which will be unsupported in  
the future.


Thanks in advance for any comments,

Stroller.




[1] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Auto_mount_filesystems_(AUTOFS)
[2] http://www.greenfly.org/tips/autofs.html
[3] http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_ivman
[4] http://ivman.sourceforge.net/
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[gentoo-user] I can't send attachments

2008-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan
I tried to send a comic strip as an attachment to my wife and I got a
Mailbox Unavailable error.  I'm running:

baby log # emerge -pv exim

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] mail-mta/exim-4.68  USE="exiscan exiscan-acl ldap mysql
pam perl sasl ssl syslog tcpd -X -dnsdb -domainkeys -dovecot-sasl
-gnutls -ipv6 -lmtp -mailwrapper -mbox -mbx -nis -postgres -radius -spf
-sqlite -srs" 0 kB 

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB

And here's my exim.conf file:
baby log # cat /etc/exim/exim.conf | sed '/#/d'
domainlist local_domains = @ : espersunited.com :
baby.espersunited.com : localhost : localdomain :
camille.espersunited.com : catherine.espersunited.com : camille :
catherine
domainlist relay_to_domains =
hostlist   relay_from_hosts = 127.0.0.1 : 192.168.1.2 : 192.168.1.3 :
192.168.1.4
acl_smtp_rcpt = acl_check_rcpt
acl_smtp_data = acl_check_data
acl_smtp_mime = acl_check_mime
av_scanner = clamd:/tmp/clamd
spamd_address = 127.0.0.1 783
qualify_domain = espersunited.com
never_users = root
host_lookup = *
rfc1413_hosts = *
rfc1413_query_timeout = 5s
sender_unqualified_hosts = baby.espersunited.com :
camille.espersunited.com : catherine.espersunited.com :
localhost.localdomain
recipient_unqualified_hosts = baby.espersunited.com :
camille.espersunited.com : catherine.espersunited.com :
localhost.localdomain
ignore_bounce_errors_after = 2d
timeout_frozen_after = 7d
begin acl
acl_check_rcpt:
  accept  hosts = :
  denymessage   = Restricted characters in address
  domains   = +local_domains
  local_parts   = ^[.] : [EMAIL PROTECTED]/|]
  denymessage   = Restricted characters in address
  domains   = !+local_domains
  local_parts   = ^[./|] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : ^.*/\\.\\./
  accept  local_parts   = postmaster
  domains   = +local_domains
  require verify= sender
  accept  hosts = +relay_from_hosts
  control   = submission
  accept  authenticated = *
  control   = submission
  require message = relay not permitted
  domains = +local_domains : +relay_to_domains
  require verify = recipient
  accept
acl_check_data:
warnmessage= X-SpamScore: $spam_score ($spam_bar)
spam   = nobody:true
warnmessage= X-SpamReport: $spam_report
spam   = nobody:true
warnmessage= X-Spam-Flag: ${if \
 >{$spam_score_int}{58}{Almost Certainly}\
 {${if >{$spam_score_int}{55}{Probably}\
 {${if >{$spam_score_int}{50}{Possibly}{Doubtful}\
 }
spam   = nobody
warn message = Subject: [*SPAM*] $h_Subject ${if \
 >{$spam_score_int}{58}{Almost Certainly}\
 {${if >{$spam_score_int}{55}{Probably}\
 {${if >{$spam_score_int}{50}{Possibly}{Doubtful}\
 }
spam   = nobody
denymessage= Rejected: spam score $spam_score
spam   = nobody:true
condition  = ${if >{$spam_score_int}{60}{1}{0}}
accept
acl_check_mime:
   warn decode = default
   deny message = Blacklisted file extension detected
   condition = ${if match \
   {${lc:$mime_filename}} \
   {\N(\.exe|\.pif|\.bat|\.scr|\.lnk|\.com|.vbs)$\N} \
   {1}{0}}
   accept
acl_check_content:
   deny  message = Serious MIME defect detected ($demime_reason)
   demime = *
   condition = ${if >{$demime_errorlevel}{2}{1}{0}}
   deny  message = This message contains malware ($malware_name)
   malware = *
   warn  message = X-Spam-Score: $spam_score ($spam_bar)
   spam = nobody:true
   warn  message = X-Spam-Report: $spam_report
   spam = nobody:true
   warn message = Subject: [*SPAM*] $h_Subject
   spam = nobody
   deny  message = This message scored $spam_score points.
Congratulations!
   spam = nobody:true
   condition = ${if >{$spam_score_int}{50}{1}{0}}
   accept
begin routers
dnslookup:
  driver = dnslookup
  domains = ! +local_domains
  transport = remote_smtp
  ignore_target_hosts = 0.0.0.0 : 127.0.0.0/8
  no_more
system_aliases:
  driver = redirect
  allow_fail
  allow_defer
  data = ${lookup{$local_part}lsearch{/etc/mail/aliases}}
  file_transport = address_file
  pipe_transport = address_pipe
userforward:
  driver = redirect
  check_local_user
  file = $home/.forward
  no_verify
  no_expn
  check_ancestor
  file_transport = address_file
  pipe_transport = address_pipe
  reply_transport = address_reply
localuser:
  driver = accept
  check_local_user
  transport = local_delivery
  cannot_route_message = Unknown user
begin transports
remote_smtp:
  driver = smtp
local_delivery:
  driver = appendfile
  directory = /home/$local_part/.maildir
  maildir_format
  delivery_date_add
  envelope_to_add
  return_path_add
address_pipe:
  driver = pipe
  return_output
address_file:
  driver = appendfile
  delivery_date_add
  envelope_to_add
  return_path_

Re: [gentoo-user] A pared down kernel config

2008-01-06 Thread Stroller


On 5 Jan 2008, at 16:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Configuring a new kernel is a dreaded task here.  It seems I walk
through a bewildering array of stuff that when pressing F1 on them I
get more bewildering information I barely understand a word of.

For 8 or 9 yrs now I've mostly skirted the issue by using  
defaults.  ...


I'm not going to read all the details of all of the responses which  
have appeared here already, so here's my take.


1) The people who configure the kernel options for commercial distros  
are very experienced geeks.
2) I am unlikely to make sufficient performance savings by funroll- 
looping my own kernel to justify the time I'll spend doing so.


Now I periodically grab a copy of the latest knoppix CD I can find -  
I use these a lot, anyway - and take a copy the kernel .config from  
there. Chances are the kernel I want to compile on my Gentoo system  
is a little newer than the one from the Knoppix CD, so I run `make  
oldconfig` and add in most everythign as modules. I take a couple of  
minutes to look for my network card's driver in `make menuconfig` and  
compile it in statically. This results in a kernel config which  
surely supports all the hardware in my system. An awful lot of the  
drivers & also additional drivers that I don't need compiled as  
modules - perfect! If I need them they're loaded in dynamically at  
boot time, if not they don't consume any system resources.


Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How long to unsubscribe?

2008-01-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 05 January 2008, Richard Torres wrote:
> It's usually immediate. Has been for me in the past anyway.

Even when you 'top post' and use html messages in mailing lists?!
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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send attachments

2008-01-06 Thread Mark Shields
On Jan 6, 2008 7:42 AM, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I tried to send a comic strip as an attachment to my wife and I got a
> Mailbox Unavailable error.  I'm running:
>
> baby log # emerge -pv exim
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] mail-mta/exim-4.68  USE="exiscan exiscan-acl ldap mysql
> pam perl sasl ssl syslog tcpd -X -dnsdb -domainkeys -dovecot-sasl
> -gnutls -ipv6 -lmtp -mailwrapper -mbox -mbx -nis -postgres -radius -spf
> -sqlite -srs" 0 kB
>
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
>
> And here's my exim.conf file:
> baby log # cat /etc/exim/exim.conf | sed '/#/d'
> domainlist local_domains = @ : espersunited.com :
> baby.espersunited.com : localhost : localdomain :
> camille.espersunited.com : catherine.espersunited.com : camille :
> catherine
> domainlist relay_to_domains =
> hostlist   relay_from_hosts = 127.0.0.1 : 192.168.1.2 : 192.168.1.3 :
> 192.168.1.4
> acl_smtp_rcpt = acl_check_rcpt
> acl_smtp_data = acl_check_data
> acl_smtp_mime = acl_check_mime
> av_scanner = clamd:/tmp/clamd
> spamd_address = 127.0.0.1 783
> qualify_domain = espersunited.com
> never_users = root
> host_lookup = *
> rfc1413_hosts = *
> rfc1413_query_timeout = 5s
> sender_unqualified_hosts = baby.espersunited.com :
> camille.espersunited.com : catherine.espersunited.com :
> localhost.localdomain
> recipient_unqualified_hosts = baby.espersunited.com :
> camille.espersunited.com : catherine.espersunited.com :
> localhost.localdomain
> ignore_bounce_errors_after = 2d
> timeout_frozen_after = 7d
> begin acl
> acl_check_rcpt:
>  accept  hosts = :
>  denymessage   = Restricted characters in address
>  domains   = +local_domains
>  local_parts   = ^[.] : [EMAIL PROTECTED]/|]
>  denymessage   = Restricted characters in address
>  domains   = !+local_domains
>  local_parts   = ^[./|] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : ^.*/\\.\\./
>  accept  local_parts   = postmaster
>  domains   = +local_domains
>  require verify= sender
>  accept  hosts = +relay_from_hosts
>  control   = submission
>  accept  authenticated = *
>  control   = submission
>  require message = relay not permitted
>  domains = +local_domains : +relay_to_domains
>  require verify = recipient
>  accept
> acl_check_data:
> warnmessage= X-SpamScore: $spam_score ($spam_bar)
>spam   = nobody:true
> warnmessage= X-SpamReport: $spam_report
>spam   = nobody:true
> warnmessage= X-Spam-Flag: ${if \
> >{$spam_score_int}{58}{Almost Certainly}\
> {${if >{$spam_score_int}{55}{Probably}\
> {${if >{$spam_score_int}{50}{Possibly}{Doubtful}\
> }
>spam   = nobody
> warn message = Subject: [*SPAM*] $h_Subject ${if \
> >{$spam_score_int}{58}{Almost Certainly}\
> {${if >{$spam_score_int}{55}{Probably}\
> {${if >{$spam_score_int}{50}{Possibly}{Doubtful}\
> }
>spam   = nobody
> denymessage= Rejected: spam score $spam_score
>spam   = nobody:true
>condition  = ${if >{$spam_score_int}{60}{1}{0}}
> accept
> acl_check_mime:
>   warn decode = default
>   deny message = Blacklisted file extension detected
>   condition = ${if match \
>   {${lc:$mime_filename}} \
>   {\N(\.exe|\.pif|\.bat|\.scr|\.lnk|\.com|.vbs)$\N} \
>   {1}{0}}
>   accept
> acl_check_content:
>   deny  message = Serious MIME defect detected ($demime_reason)
>   demime = *
>   condition = ${if >{$demime_errorlevel}{2}{1}{0}}
>   deny  message = This message contains malware ($malware_name)
>   malware = *
>   warn  message = X-Spam-Score: $spam_score ($spam_bar)
>   spam = nobody:true
>   warn  message = X-Spam-Report: $spam_report
>   spam = nobody:true
>   warn message = Subject: [*SPAM*] $h_Subject
>   spam = nobody
>   deny  message = This message scored $spam_score points.
> Congratulations!
>   spam = nobody:true
>   condition = ${if >{$spam_score_int}{50}{1}{0}}
>   accept
> begin routers
> dnslookup:
>  driver = dnslookup
>  domains = ! +local_domains
>  transport = remote_smtp
>  ignore_target_hosts = 0.0.0.0 : 127.0.0.0/8
>  no_more
> system_aliases:
>  driver = redirect
>  allow_fail
>  allow_defer
>  data = ${lookup{$local_part}lsearch{/etc/mail/aliases}}
>  file_transport = address_file
>  pipe_transport = address_pipe
> userforward:
>  driver = redirect
>  check_local_user
>  file = $home/.forward
>  no_verify
>  no_expn
>  check_ancestor
>  file_transport = address_file
>  pipe_transport = address_pipe
>  reply_transport = address_reply
> localuser:
>  driver = accept
>  check_local_user
>  transport = local_delivery
>  cannot_route_message = Unknown user
> begin transports
> remote_smtp:
>  driver = smtp
> local_delivery:
>  d

Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send attachments

2008-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sun, January 6, 2008 7:55 am, Mark Shields wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2008 7:42 AM, Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> I tried to send a comic strip as an attachment to my wife and I got a
>> Mailbox Unavailable error.  I'm running:
>>
>> baby log # emerge -pv exim
>>
>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>> [ebuild   R   ] mail-mta/exim-4.68  USE="exiscan exiscan-acl ldap mysql
>> pam perl sasl ssl syslog tcpd -X -dnsdb -domainkeys -dovecot-sasl
>> -gnutls -ipv6 -lmtp -mailwrapper -mbox -mbx -nis -postgres -radius -spf
>> -sqlite -srs" 0 kB
>>
>> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
>>
>> And here's my exim.conf file:
>> baby log # cat /etc/exim/exim.conf | sed '/#/d'
>> domainlist local_domains = @ : espersunited.com :
>> baby.espersunited.com : localhost : localdomain :
>> camille.espersunited.com : catherine.espersunited.com : camille :
>> catherine
>> domainlist relay_to_domains =
>> hostlist   relay_from_hosts = 127.0.0.1 : 192.168.1.2 : 192.168.1.3 :
>> 192.168.1.4
>> acl_smtp_rcpt = acl_check_rcpt
>> acl_smtp_data = acl_check_data
>> acl_smtp_mime = acl_check_mime
>> av_scanner = clamd:/tmp/clamd
>> spamd_address = 127.0.0.1 783
>> qualify_domain = espersunited.com
>> never_users = root
>> host_lookup = *
>> rfc1413_hosts = *
>> rfc1413_query_timeout = 5s
>> sender_unqualified_hosts = baby.espersunited.com :
>> camille.espersunited.com : catherine.espersunited.com :
>> localhost.localdomain
>> recipient_unqualified_hosts = baby.espersunited.com :
>> camille.espersunited.com : catherine.espersunited.com :
>> localhost.localdomain
>> ignore_bounce_errors_after = 2d
>> timeout_frozen_after = 7d
>> begin acl
>> acl_check_rcpt:
>>  accept  hosts = :
>>  denymessage   = Restricted characters in address
>>  domains   = +local_domains
>>  local_parts   = ^[.] : [EMAIL PROTECTED]/|]
>>  denymessage   = Restricted characters in address
>>  domains   = !+local_domains
>>  local_parts   = ^[./|] : [EMAIL PROTECTED] : ^.*/\\.\\./
>>  accept  local_parts   = postmaster
>>  domains   = +local_domains
>>  require verify= sender
>>  accept  hosts = +relay_from_hosts
>>  control   = submission
>>  accept  authenticated = *
>>  control   = submission
>>  require message = relay not permitted
>>  domains = +local_domains : +relay_to_domains
>>  require verify = recipient
>>  accept
>> acl_check_data:
>> warnmessage= X-SpamScore: $spam_score ($spam_bar)
>>spam   = nobody:true
>> warnmessage= X-SpamReport: $spam_report
>>spam   = nobody:true
>> warnmessage= X-Spam-Flag: ${if \
>> >{$spam_score_int}{58}{Almost Certainly}\
>> {${if >{$spam_score_int}{55}{Probably}\
>> {${if >{$spam_score_int}{50}{Possibly}{Doubtful}\
>> }
>>spam   = nobody
>> warn message = Subject: [*SPAM*] $h_Subject ${if \
>> >{$spam_score_int}{58}{Almost Certainly}\
>> {${if >{$spam_score_int}{55}{Probably}\
>> {${if >{$spam_score_int}{50}{Possibly}{Doubtful}\
>> }
>>spam   = nobody
>> denymessage= Rejected: spam score $spam_score
>>spam   = nobody:true
>>condition  = ${if >{$spam_score_int}{60}{1}{0}}
>> accept
>> acl_check_mime:
>>   warn decode = default
>>   deny message = Blacklisted file extension detected
>>   condition = ${if match \
>>   {${lc:$mime_filename}} \
>>   {\N(\.exe|\.pif|\.bat|\.scr|\.lnk|\.com|.vbs)$\N} \
>>   {1}{0}}
>>   accept
>> acl_check_content:
>>   deny  message = Serious MIME defect detected ($demime_reason)
>>   demime = *
>>   condition = ${if >{$demime_errorlevel}{2}{1}{0}}
>>   deny  message = This message contains malware ($malware_name)
>>   malware = *
>>   warn  message = X-Spam-Score: $spam_score ($spam_bar)
>>   spam = nobody:true
>>   warn  message = X-Spam-Report: $spam_report
>>   spam = nobody:true
>>   warn message = Subject: [*SPAM*] $h_Subject
>>   spam = nobody
>>   deny  message = This message scored $spam_score points.
>> Congratulations!
>>   spam = nobody:true
>>   condition = ${if >{$spam_score_int}{50}{1}{0}}
>>   accept
>> begin routers
>> dnslookup:
>>  driver = dnslookup
>>  domains = ! +local_domains
>>  transport = remote_smtp
>>  ignore_target_hosts = 0.0.0.0 : 127.0.0.0/8
>>  no_more
>> system_aliases:
>>  driver = redirect
>>  allow_fail
>>  allow_defer
>>  data = ${lookup{$local_part}lsearch{/etc/mail/aliases}}
>>  file_transport = address_file
>>  pipe_transport = address_pipe
>> userforward:
>>  driver = redirect
>>  check_local_user
>>  file = $home/.forward
>>  no_verify
>>  no_expn
>>  check_ancestor
>>  file_transport = address_file
>>  pipe_transport = address_pipe
>>  reply_transport = address_reply
>> loc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB Wireless Network Adapter?

2008-01-06 Thread Grant
> Yes i've the same:
>
> ls /lib/firmware/rt73.bin
> /lib/firmware/rt73.bin
>
> But i don't remember to setted up it.

Well, it wasn't the kernel right? :)

Were you experimenting with driver packages for the rt73 outside of
the kernel?  That's where mine came from.  If you remove that firmware
your device won't work.  I've filed a bug here:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=204314

- Grant


> >> For rt73usb no firmware is needed. Just use vanilla kernel built-in module.
> >>
> >> as i did:
> >>
> >> CONFIG_RT2X00=m
> >> CONFIG_RT2X00_LIB=m
> >> CONFIG_RT2X00_LIB_USB=m
> >> CONFIG_RT2X00_LIB_FIRMWARE=y
> >> # CONFIG_RT2400PCI is not set
> >> # CONFIG_RT2500PCI is not set
> >> # CONFIG_RT61PCI is not set
> >> # CONFIG_RT2500USB is not set
> >> CONFIG_RT73USB=m
> >> CONFIG_RT2X00_LIB_DEBUGFS=y
> >> CONFIG_RT2X00_DEBUG=y
> >>
> >> With:
> >>
> >> [I] sys-kernel/vanilla-sources
> >>  Installed versions:  2.6.24_rc5(2.6.24_rc5)(02:05:20
> >> 16.12.2007)(-build -symlink)
> >>  Homepage:http://www.kernel.org
> >>  Description: Full sources for the Linux kernel
> >
> > I'm using vanilla-sources-2.6.24-rc6 and I have the same options
> > enabled as you except for the debug stuff, but the driver only works
> > if I have /lib/firmware/rt73.bin which is installed by the
> > bugs.gentoo.org ebuild for rt73-.  Can you verify that you don't
> > have that file?
> >
> > - Grant
> >
> >> Regards, Kalden.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Sandisk mounting problems

2008-01-06 Thread Jeff Cranmer

>
>
>Try rmmod ehci-hcd, then modprobe ohci-hcd and see what happens. 
>
>Also, include from /var/log/messages everything printed from when ohci-hcd is 
>modprobed to then end of actually plugging in the Sansa. And again when 
>trying ehci-hcd.
>
>-- 
ohci was not included in my kernel.
I recompiled with ehci and uhci as modules, then ran rmmod ehci-hcd
Since my wireless ethernet adapter is also a usb module, the output is a little 
verbose, so my apologies in advance for the length of the dmesg output below.

That did seem to get the card working, so I then recompiled a kernel with uhci 
support only, and I was then able to attach the device.  This seems to be a 
little extreme, however, as I know this device maps correctly on my desktop in 
ehci mode.  Can you discern anything from the dmesg output which might shed 
some light on the real root cause?

Thanks

Jeff

ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: remove, state 1
usb usb7: USB disconnect, address 1
ehci_hcd :00:1d.7: USB bus 7 deregistered
ACPI: PCI interrupt for device :00:1d.7 disabled
ehci_hcd :00:1a.7: remove, state 1
usb usb6: USB disconnect, address 1
usb 6-2: USB disconnect, address 2
RX Status Error!
RX process aborted due to explicit shutdown (ff94) RX Status Error!
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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send attachments

2008-01-06 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 08:12:10 -0600 (CST)
"Michael Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I own espersunited.com, so it is on my end.

...and so should be exim's logs, right? I usually find it easier to read
actual error reports than (stripped) configurations for complex
software that is claimed to be responsible for the error...

Also, I have a hard time trying to understand the problem. A mailbox
unavailable shouldn't occur after SMTP's "DATA" command, it should
happen after the "RCPT TO" (answer code 450). At that point, no data has
been transmitted, so the error does not make sense except if it is
wrongly phrased by the MUA or (sorry) you. SMTP doesn't allow it at
that point. There's only the possibility for much more general error
codes. BTW, what's the MUA? You just introduced the MTA. Did you try
another one?

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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS problem

2008-01-06 Thread Mick
On Sunday 06 January 2008, Dale wrote:
> Alan E. Davis wrote:
> >
> > Any ideas?

> I ran into something similar to the a while back and I had to un-merge
> cups, delete the config files, then reemerge cups and reconfigure my
> printer.   Keep in mind that when you unmerge something, the config
> files remain in /etc unchanged.

Assuming that you have set the correct device in the GUI for your printer, 
then the most likely error is that your have not provided the correct path 
for it.  Show us what you have defined the path as in case we can help.
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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send attachments

2008-01-06 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 17:47 +0100, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 08:12:10 -0600 (CST)
> "Michael Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > I own espersunited.com, so it is on my end.
> 
> ...and so should be exim's logs, right? I usually find it easier to read
> actual error reports than (stripped) configurations for complex
> software that is claimed to be responsible for the error...
> 
> Also, I have a hard time trying to understand the problem. A mailbox
> unavailable shouldn't occur after SMTP's "DATA" command, it should
> happen after the "RCPT TO" (answer code 450). At that point, no data has
> been transmitted, so the error does not make sense except if it is
> wrongly phrased by the MUA or (sorry) you. SMTP doesn't allow it at
> that point. There's only the possibility for much more general error
> codes. BTW, what's the MUA? You just introduced the MTA. Did you try
> another one?
> 
> -hwh

We use evolution.  I tried using Squirrelmail and got this:

Message not sent. Server replied: 
Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
550 Rejected: spam score 6.5

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Re: [gentoo-user] My apache server dosn't work after update.

2008-01-06 Thread Mick
On Saturday 05 January 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> My apache server dosn't work after update.
>
> Recentrly, I have updated all portage tree and after that can't start.
>
> Does anyone know how to fix it?
>
> My apache version is: www-servers/apache-2.2.6-r5
>
> and /etc/init.d/apache2 start  shows me this:
> charlotte ~ # /etc/init.d/apache2 start
>  * Starting apache2 ...
> apache2: apr_sockaddr_info_get() failed for charlotte
> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified
> domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
>
> I have read some post, but neither of them can help me.

See if this helps: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/188460

> Sorry for my English, it isn't my native language...

Don't worry, in this age of globalisation it isn't native for most people.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Autofs or ivman?

2008-01-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 06 January 2008, Stroller wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I was on #gentoo yesterday asking about autofs & someone recommended
> ivman instead.
> Which does gentoo-users think I should use?

Dilemmas like this are best resolved by finding out what problem a 
technology was designed to solve.

A good example of the kind of problem autofs solves is exporting home 
directories on a large server that has many accounts, used in 
conjunction with NFS and NIS, and anyone can log in from any 
workstation at any time. This scenario is common - think thin clients

Say you have 100 accounts and user joe logs onto the network. You 
*could* export /home to his workstation, but that exposes everyone 
else's homedir as well. With autofs you essentially tell the server 
that this is user joe, it exports his home dir on the fly, creates a 
directory /home/joe on his workstation (/home must already exist)and 
mounts the NFS export there.

Now, you don't appear to be doing something like that :-)

You can do many wonderful things with autofs, but it often involves 
complex hacks and workarounds, which is the impetus for other solutions 
to be developed, like ivman.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How long to unsubscribe?

2008-01-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 06 January 2008, Mick wrote:
> On Saturday 05 January 2008, Richard Torres wrote:
> > It's usually immediate. Has been for me in the past anyway.
>
> Even when you 'top post' and use html messages in mailing lists?!

hehehehe, good one :-)

It's now 48 hours and my old address hasn't been unsubscribed yet. 
Anyone have an address for a list admin to investigate this further?

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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send attachments

2008-01-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 06 January 2008, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> On Sun, 2008-01-06 at 17:47 +0100, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 08:12:10 -0600 (CST)
> >
> > "Michael Sullivan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I own espersunited.com, so it is on my end.
> >
> > ...and so should be exim's logs, right? I usually find it easier to
> > read actual error reports than (stripped) configurations for
> > complex software that is claimed to be responsible for the error...
> >
> > Also, I have a hard time trying to understand the problem. A
> > mailbox unavailable shouldn't occur after SMTP's "DATA" command, it
> > should happen after the "RCPT TO" (answer code 450). At that point,
> > no data has been transmitted, so the error does not make sense
> > except if it is wrongly phrased by the MUA or (sorry) you. SMTP
> > doesn't allow it at that point. There's only the possibility for
> > much more general error codes. BTW, what's the MUA? You just
> > introduced the MTA. Did you try another one?
> >
> > -hwh
>
> We use evolution.  I tried using Squirrelmail and got this:
>
> Message not sent. Server replied:
> Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
> 550 Rejected: spam score 6.5
^^

perhaps this bit?

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Re: [gentoo-user] I can't send attachments

2008-01-06 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 11:09:15 -0600
Michael Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> We use evolution.  I tried using Squirrelmail and got this:
> 
> Message not sent. Server replied: 
> Requested action not taken: mailbox unavailable
> 550 Rejected: spam score 6.5

Ah, I see. Exim does output a 550 anyway (and it makes some sense, I
guess the SMTP protocol definition is impractical w/ regard to the
allowed errors). But reading the full error report, it seems it's your
spam detection software that leads exim to deny the mail. Your exim
config seems to indicate that everything with a spam score > 6.0 is to
be denied (those numbers in the config are given with a factor of ten,
I guess?). Depending on whether the full spam check report is available
on the logs, you might want to temporarly disable that mail denial and
check the mail headers for the protocol of which certain spam checks
leads your spam filter to the conclusion it is spam, then adjust that.

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[gentoo-user] How to find USE flags of a tbz2?

2008-01-06 Thread Konstantinos Agouros
Hi,

if an ebuild was executed with --buildpkg, is there an easy way to extract
the USE-flags that were in place from the resulting .tbz2?

Konstantin
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to find USE flags of a tbz2?

2008-01-06 Thread Hans-Werner Hilse
Hi,

On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 19:05:18 + (UTC)
Konstantinos Agouros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> if an ebuild was executed with --buildpkg, is there an easy way to extract
> the USE-flags that were in place from the resulting .tbz2?

qtbz2 -xO your.tbz2 | qxpak -xO - USE

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to find USE flags of a tbz2?

2008-01-06 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 06 January 2008, Konstantinos Agouros wrote:
> Hi,
>
> if an ebuild was executed with --buildpkg, is there an easy way to
> extract the USE-flags that were in place from the resulting .tbz2?

That is not possible as the information is not in the tarball.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How long to unsubscribe?

2008-01-06 Thread Mick
On Sunday 06 January 2008, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Sunday 06 January 2008, Mick wrote:
> > On Saturday 05 January 2008, Richard Torres wrote:
> > > It's usually immediate. Has been for me in the past anyway.
> >
> > Even when you 'top post' and use html messages in mailing lists?!
>
> hehehehe, good one :-)
>
> It's now 48 hours and my old address hasn't been unsubscribed yet.
> Anyone have an address for a list admin to investigate this further?

I don't I'm afraid . . . but you may want to sent a message to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (substitute listname for user, or whichever ML you 
want to unsubscribe from)

to see if there is a ML admin email address in the help message that will be 
sent to you.

Another thing to try would be to unsubscribe completely from all your email 
addresses for a couple of days and see if that stops it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] How to find USE flags of a tbz2?

2008-01-06 Thread Mick
On Sunday 06 January 2008, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 19:05:18 + (UTC)
>
> Konstantinos Agouros <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > if an ebuild was executed with --buildpkg, is there an easy way to
> > extract the USE-flags that were in place from the resulting .tbz2?
>
> qtbz2 -xO your.tbz2 | qxpak -xO - USE

WOW!  The more I learn, the more I find out that there is s much I don't 
even know I don't know.

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[gentoo-user] Re: A pared down kernel config

2008-01-06 Thread reader
Florian Philipp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>> There's a reason for the existence of genkernel - it's so that you don't 
>> have to go through all this pain and suffering, and can instead remove 
>> stuff a bit at a time with reasonable confidence it won;t blow up in 
>> your face :-)
>> 
>
> There is a fairly easy trick to get rid of pointless options like unused
> drivers even if you are not sure about your hardware or the kernel
> options themselves: 
> Compile them as modules, then boot the new kernel. If the modules don't
> get loaded (lsmod is your friend) and everything works fine, throw them
> out of your configuration.

Nice... a small question: how do you keep up with what gets installed?
Do you ferret them out at /lib/modules with cmds like 
find . -name '*.ko'

Or is there a log created at compile time.. or maybe create one like
make modules_intall >mymod.log.  Just thinking outload.

Following a `genkernal all' I saw a very big list get installed but didn't
think to log them.

I guess it would be harmless to just run the `make modules_intall' part
again and catch a list.

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[gentoo-user] Any newer Gentoo install CDs?

2008-01-06 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   My son built a PC Friday using an Asus P5E motherboard. We went to
install Gentoo 2007.0 and found it didn't see the disk drives and
hence cannot be installed.

   Clearly 2007.0 is getting quite loong in the tooth so we're
wondering if there something newer somewhere that we could use?

thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Any newer Gentoo install CDs?

2008-01-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:21:07 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

>My son built a PC Friday using an Asus P5E motherboard. We went to
> install Gentoo 2007.0 and found it didn't see the disk drives and
> hence cannot be installed.

Are these SATA drives? Are the controllers running as AHCI? I have a P5E
variant i this machine and installed on it last Spring with no such
problems (although the kernel used then didn't support my on-board NIC).


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Re: [gentoo-user] Any newer Gentoo install CDs?

2008-01-06 Thread Dale
Mark Knecht wrote:
> Hi,
>My son built a PC Friday using an Asus P5E motherboard. We went to
> install Gentoo 2007.0 and found it didn't see the disk drives and
> hence cannot be installed.
>
>Clearly 2007.0 is getting quite loong in the tooth so we're
> wondering if there something newer somewhere that we could use?
>
> thanks,
> Mark
>   

If you have two CD drives, you can boot Knoppix or another live CD and
install from there.  I have never done this but have read where others
have and had no problem.

Someone else may have a better solution but that is one at least.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any newer Gentoo install CDs?

2008-01-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Jan 6, 2008 3:42 PM, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:21:07 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> >My son built a PC Friday using an Asus P5E motherboard. We went to
> > install Gentoo 2007.0 and found it didn't see the disk drives and
> > hence cannot be installed.
>
> Are these SATA drives? Are the controllers running as AHCI? I have a P5E
> variant i this machine and installed on it last Spring with no such
> problems (although the kernel used then didn't support my on-board NIC).
>
>
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Neil,
   Thanks for your response, and to Dale also.

   The drive is SATA. I'm not familiar with AHCI. (What? Advanced Host
controller Interface or something like that? If this is a driver that
needs to be loaded let me know and I'll try booting again and looking
around.

   Not clear if the NIC was installed. My kid wanted to load Windows
and play games with his $300 video card so I let him have fun and
figured I'd try to get this moving on Monday.

   I will likely download a new Knoppix CD just to see what happens also.

   Thanks!!!

Cheers,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS problem

2008-01-06 Thread Alan E. Davis
I have installed two or three times, deleted /etc/cups and reinstalled
the printer.  It showed up as an HPLIP device when installing, w/ CUPS
and/or the kde printer utility.   NOtably the utility OR the
localhost:631 interface did not show any option for a USB printer.
The address that ended up being used was a usb:.  When I
get gentoo booted up I'll look at it again.  For now, I have to print,
so I've installed Ubuntu on another partition.  Printing works fine
there, so that's a start.

Thank you,

Alan

On Jan 7, 2008 2:48 AM, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sunday 06 January 2008, Dale wrote:
> > Alan E. Davis wrote:
> > >
> > > Any ideas?
>
> > I ran into something similar to the a while back and I had to un-merge
> > cups, delete the config files, then reemerge cups and reconfigure my
> > printer.   Keep in mind that when you unmerge something, the config
> > files remain in /etc unchanged.
>
> Assuming that you have set the correct device in the GUI for your printer,
> then the most likely error is that your have not provided the correct path
> for it.  Show us what you have defined the path as in case we can help.
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> Mick
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Re: [gentoo-user] Any newer Gentoo install CDs?

2008-01-06 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:52:14 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:

>The drive is SATA. I'm not familiar with AHCI. (What? Advanced Host
> controller Interface or something like that? If this is a driver that
> needs to be loaded let me know and I'll try booting again and looking
> around.

Yep, good guess :)

AFAIR, I'm on a different computer now, it was a BIOS option to enable
AHCI for the SATA controllers.


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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS problem

2008-01-06 Thread Dale
Alan E. Davis wrote:
> I have installed two or three times, deleted /etc/cups and reinstalled
> the printer.  It showed up as an HPLIP device when installing, w/ CUPS
> and/or the kde printer utility.   NOtably the utility OR the
> localhost:631 interface did not show any option for a USB printer.
> The address that ended up being used was a usb:.  When I
> get gentoo booted up I'll look at it again.  For now, I have to print,
> so I've installed Ubuntu on another partition.  Printing works fine
> there, so that's a start.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Alan
>
> On Jan 7, 2008 2:48 AM, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>> On Sunday 06 January 2008, Dale wrote:
>> 
>>> Alan E. Davis wrote:
>>>   
 Any ideas?
 
>>> I ran into something similar to the a while back and I had to un-merge
>>> cups, delete the config files, then reemerge cups and reconfigure my
>>> printer.   Keep in mind that when you unmerge something, the config
>>> files remain in /etc unchanged.
>>>   
>> Assuming that you have set the correct device in the GUI for your printer,
>> then the most likely error is that your have not provided the correct path
>> for it.  Show us what you have defined the path as in case we can help.
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mick
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>   

They recently changed it over to hplip.  Is that installed on your system? 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any newer Gentoo install CDs?

2008-01-06 Thread Mark Knecht
On Jan 6, 2008 4:11 PM, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Jan 2008 15:52:14 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
>
> >The drive is SATA. I'm not familiar with AHCI. (What? Advanced Host
> > controller Interface or something like that? If this is a driver that
> > needs to be loaded let me know and I'll try booting again and looking
> > around.
>
> Yep, good guess :)
>
> AFAIR, I'm on a different computer now, it was a BIOS option to enable
> AHCI for the SATA controllers.
>

Neil,
   OK, I took a few minutes away from his Half Life game to look at
BIOS. I found the AHCI option and enabled it. Of course he wanted to
get back to gaming so we tried to boot back into Windows but XP goes
blue screen at the first disk access with AHCI enabled.

   Possibly XP might work if it installed with AHCI enabled but
typical of Windows it doesn't like configuration changes after it's
installed.

   Is there any other solution for this or is the only Linux support
going to require AHCI? It is unfortunately not reasonable or practical
to switch BIOS options when choosing which OS to boot. He uses a
special gaming keyboard that doesn't seem able to get into BIOS so
we're having to attach an old keyboard to do this.

Thanks,
Mark
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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS problem

2008-01-06 Thread Alan E. Davis
Yes.  Even installed as hplip, when jobs are printed, they are
immediately marked as "stopped" in the jobs interface.  There is no
indication that the printer is on line at all, except that it shows up
as Ready.

Thank you,

Alan

On Jan 7, 2008 10:24 AM, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  Alan E. Davis wrote:
>  I have installed two or three times, deleted /etc/cups and reinstalled
> the printer. It showed up as an HPLIP device when installing, w/ CUPS
> and/or the kde printer utility. NOtably the utility OR the
> localhost:631 interface did not show any option for a USB printer.
> The address that ended up being used was a usb:. When I
> get gentoo booted up I'll look at it again. For now, I have to print,
> so I've installed Ubuntu on another partition. Printing works fine
> there, so that's a start.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Alan
>
> On Jan 7, 2008 2:48 AM, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>  On Sunday 06 January 2008, Dale wrote:
>
>
>  Alan E. Davis wrote:
>
>
>  Any ideas?
>
>
>  I ran into something similar to the a while back and I had to un-merge
> cups, delete the config files, then reemerge cups and reconfigure my
> printer. Keep in mind that when you unmerge something, the config
> files remain in /etc unchanged.
>
>  Assuming that you have set the correct device in the GUI for your printer,
> then the most likely error is that your have not provided the correct path
> for it. Show us what you have defined the path as in case we can help.
> --
> Regards,
> Mick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  They recently changed it over to hplip.  Is that installed on your system?
>
>  Dale
>
>  :-)  :-)
>



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Re: [gentoo-user] How to update portage offline with minimal impact?

2008-01-06 Thread Iain Buchanan

On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 13:16 -0800, BRM wrote:

[snip]

> However, that is not a solution I can use as I might not be the long
> term maintainer, and I'd like an easier solution as it requires a lot
> of work to download stuff. I'd like a solution similar to the
> following:
> 
> # tar xvjf /portage-sources-.tar.bz2 -C /my-portage-sources
> # tar xvjf /portage-.tar.bz2 -C /my-portage
> # emerge --sync --portage-source /my-portage
> # emerge world -vuD --sources /my-portage-sources

This has come up before, so I know some people here have a bit of
experience with doing it.  Essentially it's possible.  I think the steps
required are:

- download a portage snapshot as you would in an initial install, or
create your own from another gentoo machine (more info here:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=5#installing_portage)
- you may need to run `emerge --metadata` after unpacking it, or
something like that - someone else can comment here :)
- then follow your manual download instructions: `emerge -ufpDN world`
and download all these packages on another box
- transfer the packages to /usr/portage/distfiles, and check you got
them all with `emerge -ufDN world`.  You should have no fetch errors.
- then go! `emerge -uvaDN world`

Notes:
- when creating your own snapshot,
exclude /usr/portage/distfiles, /usr/portage/packages, (and others?)
- I would recommend -N as you might see some new features since you
haven't updated in a while

Hopefully someone will fix any holes I left, otherwise this should work!
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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS problem

2008-01-06 Thread Dale
Alan E. Davis wrote:
> Yes.  Even installed as hplip, when jobs are printed, they are
> immediately marked as "stopped" in the jobs interface.  There is no
> indication that the printer is on line at all, except that it shows up
> as Ready.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Alan
>
> On Jan 7, 2008 10:24 AM, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>   
>>  Alan E. Davis wrote:
>>  I have installed two or three times, deleted /etc/cups and reinstalled
>> the printer. It showed up as an HPLIP device when installing, w/ CUPS
>> and/or the kde printer utility. NOtably the utility OR the
>> localhost:631 interface did not show any option for a USB printer.
>> The address that ended up being used was a usb:. When I
>> get gentoo booted up I'll look at it again. For now, I have to print,
>> so I've installed Ubuntu on another partition. Printing works fine
>> there, so that's a start.
>>
>> Thank you,
>>
>> Alan
>>
>> On Jan 7, 2008 2:48 AM, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>  On Sunday 06 January 2008, Dale wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Alan E. Davis wrote:
>>
>>
>>  Any ideas?
>>
>>
>>  I ran into something similar to the a while back and I had to un-merge
>> cups, delete the config files, then reemerge cups and reconfigure my
>> printer. Keep in mind that when you unmerge something, the config
>> files remain in /etc unchanged.
>>
>>  Assuming that you have set the correct device in the GUI for your printer,
>> then the most likely error is that your have not provided the correct path
>> for it. Show us what you have defined the path as in case we can help.
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mick
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  They recently changed it over to hplip.  Is that installed on your system?
>>
>>  Dale
>>
>>  :-)  :-)
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>   

One of the things I did when I ran into this was to remove all printers
and use hp-setup to set up the printers.  You tried that?  It should
have mentioned this when hplip was installed but sometimes we miss those
messages.  ;-)

Other than this, I may be out of ideas.

Dale

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[gentoo-user] ip_conntrack - is it missing

2008-01-06 Thread reader
I'm working my way thru this document:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Iptables_and_stateful_firewalls

  Somewhere in this part: #Should_I_take_this_tutorial
(add it to the above url)

Once there scan for the work /proc and a few hits will get you to this
line: (emphasis is mine)

   If you've already rebooted and are using your new netfilter-enabled
   kernel, you can view a list of active network connections that your
   machine is participating in by typing 
   
  "cat/proc/net/ip_conntrack". 

   Even with no firewall configured, Linux's
   conntrack functionality is working behind the scenes, keeping track
   of the connections that your machine is participating in. 

I don't see that on a machine where I've tried to pick every iptable
and contrack setting for the kernel I could find.  Including the ones
on that page that are still around.

   find /proc -iname '*conntrack*'
or even
   find /proc -iname '*con*'

Turns up nothing even close.  Does it mean I'm still missing something
in the kernel build? or is it just baloney or out of date?

It claims you should see this even if you aren't running iptables yet

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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS problem

2008-01-06 Thread Randy Barlow
Dale wrote:
> They recently changed it over to hplip.  Is that installed on your system?

Sorry to steal the thread a bit, but should hplip show up as an option
for the driver to your printer?  Because I still see hpijs as the
printer driver even though I have the hplip package.

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Re: [gentoo-user] ip_conntrack - is it missing

2008-01-06 Thread Johann Schmitz

[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
> Turns up nothing even close.  Does it mean I'm still missing something
> in the kernel build? or is it just baloney or out of date?

Hi,

you can simply check our kernel config by typing:

  cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep -i conntrack

IIRC, there should be the lines

 CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK_ENABLED=m
 CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK=m
 CONFIG_NF_CONNTRACK_IPV4=m

with either 'm' or 'y'.

Sometimes the order of enabling functions in the kernel matter to see all 
iptables
options. The conntrack options are located under

Networking -> Networking support -> Networking options -> Network packet 
filtering
framework (Netfilter) -> Core Netfilter -> Configuration -> Netfilter Xtables 
support
(required for ip_tables) -> "conntrack" connection tracking match support.

Hope you can guess what it want to say - english isn't my native lang, and it 
is early in
the morning ;)

Best regards,

Johann

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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS problem

2008-01-06 Thread Dale
Randy Barlow wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>   
>> They recently changed it over to hplip.  Is that installed on your system?
>> 
>
> Sorry to steal the thread a bit, but should hplip show up as an option
> for the driver to your printer?  Because I still see hpijs as the
> printer driver even though I have the hplip package.
>
>   

On my system hpijs was a blocker if I recall correctly.  I read
somewhere that hpijs was no longer being maintained and that hplip was
the "new thing" to use.  Not sure why tho.

Also may be worth noting that hplip used to be a service that was
started as well.  /etc/init.d/hplip start used to work.  The latest
update got rid of the service and I guess it just runs when it is needed.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS problem

2008-01-06 Thread Randy Barlow
Dale wrote:
> On my system hpijs was a blocker if I recall correctly.  I read
> somewhere that hpijs was no longer being maintained and that hplip was
> the "new thing" to use.  Not sure why tho.
> 
> Also may be worth noting that hplip used to be a service that was
> started as well.  /etc/init.d/hplip start used to work.  The latest
> update got rid of the service and I guess it just runs when it is needed.

I should clarify my question a bit more.  I don't have the hpijs package
installed.  I do have hplip.  Yet when I try to select the driver for my
printer, hpijs is the only option of the two.  I know that hplip
includes hpijs, but I was looking for a driver called hplip and didn't
see it...

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Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS problem

2008-01-06 Thread Dale
Randy Barlow wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>   
>> On my system hpijs was a blocker if I recall correctly.  I read
>> somewhere that hpijs was no longer being maintained and that hplip was
>> the "new thing" to use.  Not sure why tho.
>>
>> Also may be worth noting that hplip used to be a service that was
>> started as well.  /etc/init.d/hplip start used to work.  The latest
>> update got rid of the service and I guess it just runs when it is needed.
>> 
>
> I should clarify my question a bit more.  I don't have the hpijs package
> installed.  I do have hplip.  Yet when I try to select the driver for my
> printer, hpijs is the only option of the two.  I know that hplip
> includes hpijs, but I was looking for a driver called hplip and didn't
> see it...
>
>   

Did you run hp-setup?  You may want to re-emerge hplip and read the
messages there.  I may be forgetting something it said to do. 

Also, check your error logs.  Should be in /var/log.  Depends on what
logger you use as to the name of it.  Mine is messages tho.

Post back what you find out from that.  May give us a clue.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any newer Gentoo install CDs?

2008-01-06 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Montag, 7. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Dale:

> If you have two CD drives, you can boot Knoppix or another live CD and
> install from there.

Why two?

> I have never done this but have read where others 
> have and had no problem.

Yep, did a Gentoo installation on a new laptop using a GRML 1.0 CD (with 
only one CD drive).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Any newer Gentoo install CDs?

2008-01-06 Thread Dale
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Montag, 7. Januar 2008 schrieb ext Dale:
>
>   
>> If you have two CD drives, you can boot Knoppix or another live CD and
>> install from there.
>> 
>
> Why two?
>
>   
>> I have never done this but have read where others 
>> have and had no problem.
>> 
>
> Yep, did a Gentoo installation on a new laptop using a GRML 1.0 CD (with 
> only one CD drive).
>
> Bye...
>
>   Dirk
>   

Well, I was thinking one to boot from and the Gentoo CD in the other
one.  I guess one could work tho.

Glad you got it installed either way.

Dale

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