Re: [gentoo-user] Status of Gentoo

[Richard Marzan]

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> Mark Knecht wrote:
> | On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 11:23 AM, Dan Farrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | 
> | It's an interesting question and one I've not tried to test. Does an
> | AMD64 machine running a 32-bit or 64-bit install run faster or slower
> | with one or the other. For all of my everyday work - Gnome, Firefox,
> | web browsing, email, MythTV, etc., it's been my assumption that there
> | wouldn't be any noticeble difference. I run 64-bit but assume I'd run
> | at more or less the same speed if I ran 32-bit. I may be wrong. Anyone
> | have any measured data? Same machine, two installs?
> 
> I have a few numbers from genlop -t
> 
> *32-bit*
> 
> ~ * www-client/mozilla-firefox
> ~ Sat Dec 29 00:35:39 2007 >>> www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.11
> ~   merge time: 11 minutes and 30 seconds.
> 
> ~ Sat Feb  9 12:43:52 2008 >>> www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.12
> ~   merge time: 10 minutes and 44 seconds.
> 
> ~ * mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird
> ~ Sat Aug  4 13:25:28 2007 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.6
> ~   merge time: 18 minutes and 49 seconds.
> 
> ~ Fri Nov 23 12:57:01 2007 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.9
> ~   merge time: 10 minutes and 37 seconds.
> 
> ~ * kde-base/kdelibs
> ~ Sat Dec 29 09:31:18 2007 >>> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7-r3
> ~   merge time: 18 minutes and 56 seconds.
> 
> ~ Sat Dec 29 11:07:40 2007 >>> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7-r3
> ~   merge time: 19 minutes and 37 seconds.
> 
> ~ Wed Jan 30 20:38:52 2008 >>> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r3
> ~   merge time: 18 minutes and 19 seconds.
> 
> ~ Tue Feb 26 20:16:28 2008 >>> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r3
> ~   merge time: 21 minutes and 38 seconds.
> 
> * app-office/openoffice
> ~ Fri Nov 23 19:14:12 2007 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.3.0
> ~   merge time: 1 hour and 48 seconds.
> 
> ~ Sat Dec 29 01:35:35 2007 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.3.1
> ~   merge time: 59 minutes and 56 seconds.
> 
> ~ Tue Feb  5 11:51:26 2008 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.3.1-r1
> ~   merge time: 1 hour, 4 minutes and 28 seconds.
> 
> 
> *64-bit*
> 
> * www-client/mozilla-firefox
> ~ Tue Jan  1 14:14:50 2008 >>> www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.11
> ~   merge time: 8 minutes and 43 seconds.
> 
> ~ Wed Feb 20 21:39:03 2008 >>> www-client/mozilla-firefox-2.0.0.12
> ~   merge time: 8 minutes and 39 seconds.
> 
> * mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird
> ~ Tue Jan  1 14:25:01 2008 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.9
> ~   merge time: 9 minutes and 9 seconds.
> 
> ~ Sun Mar  9 01:22:43 2008 >>> mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-2.0.0.12
> ~   merge time: 8 minutes and 2 seconds.
> 
> * kde-base/kdelibs
> ~ Tue Jan  1 11:04:37 2008 >>> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.7-r3
> ~   merge time: 16 minutes and 47 seconds.
> 
> ~ Wed Feb 20 22:01:22 2008 >>> kde-base/kdelibs-3.5.8-r3
> ~   merge time: 18 minutes and 12 seconds.
> 
> * app-office/openoffice
> ~ Fri Mar 14 21:23:57 2008 >>> app-office/openoffice-2.3.1-r1
> ~   merge time: 48 minutes and 45 seconds.
> 
> These times are from the same machine: 
> abit ip35 pro, c2quad q6600 (2.4ghz), 4gb ram, (320+320) sataII raid0 
> (155-MB/s)
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My advice is not to use it yet. I thought 64-bit computers could bring
in a whole new dimension into the computing world. going from 16 to 32
bits was a significant improvement in terms of applications and what you
can do at a given time. You can see the big difference in Operating
systems and programs of various application going from 16 to 32. This
64-bit and even dual-core thing has still to bear fruit -- at least for
me. It's not faster by any noticeable difference and most applications
are not optimized for it. I won't switch until I know I can gain a major
advantage utilizing this technology.I have 2gigs of ram and still have
yet to use more than 200M at anytime. So, why do I need 8 gigs of memory
or more.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

[Grant]

> >  > >  > I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
>  >  > >  > feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:
>  >  > >  >
>  >  > >  > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
>  >  > >  >
>  >  > >  > for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
>  >  > >  > work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
>  >  > >  > time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this 
> process,
>  >  > >  > it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when 
> it
>  >  > >  > goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
>  >  > >  >
>  >  > >  > Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
>  >  > >  > that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the 
> client.
>  >  > >  >
>  >  > >  > - Grant
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  Grant,
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  Yes, lowering the rate to a "slower" speed will help greatly.  The 
> lower
>  >  > > rates use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms
>  >  > > better connects over long hauls.
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and whole
>  >  > >  heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with 
> these
>  >  > >  models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
>  >  > >  http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain antennas 
> you
>  >  > >  have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high on 
> the
>  >  > >  speed scale doing it too.
>  >  >
>  >  > I'm using a Netgear PCI adapter on the AP and an Edimax USB adapter on
>  >  > the client.  Do you know how I can limit the rate?  Should it be done
>  >  > on the Gentoo AP or the client?
>  >  >
>  >  > - Grant
>  >
>  >  I use wireless-tools from portage. In it is iwconfig. A simple man 
> iwconfig
>  >  will show you what you need. Other thing you could do is configure the
>  >  Wireless AP for a fixed rate... works for me.
>
>  I found this:
>
>  rate_wlan0=( "5.5M" )
>
>  which isn't documented in net.wireless, but it doesn't seem to have
>  any affect.  I've tried it on the router and the client which uses
>  wpa_supplicant.  I still see the rate on the client fluctuate all the
>  way up to 54 Mb/s in the output from iwconfig.  The router's rate is
>  always reported as 0 kb/s.
>
>  - Grant

It appears 'iwconfig wlan0 rate 11M' works (at least as far as the
output from iwconfig is concerned) but how can I set /etc/conf.d/net
to always use this rate?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

[Grant]

>  > >  > I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
>  > >  > feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:
>  > >  >
>  > >  > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
>  > >  >
>  > >  > for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
>  > >  > work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
>  > >  > time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
>  > >  > it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
>  > >  > goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
>  > >  > that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.
>  > >  >
>  > >  > - Grant
>  > >
>  > >  Grant,
>  > >
>  > >  Yes, lowering the rate to a "slower" speed will help greatly.  The lower
>  > > rates use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms
>  > > better connects over long hauls.
>  > >
>  > >  The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and whole
>  > >  heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with these
>  > >  models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
>  > >  http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain antennas you
>  > >  have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high on the
>  > >  speed scale doing it too.
>  >
>  > I'm using a Netgear PCI adapter on the AP and an Edimax USB adapter on
>  > the client.  Do you know how I can limit the rate?  Should it be done
>  > on the Gentoo AP or the client?
>  >
>  > - Grant
>
>  I use wireless-tools from portage. In it is iwconfig. A simple man iwconfig
>  will show you what you need. Other thing you could do is configure the
>  Wireless AP for a fixed rate... works for me.

I found this:

rate_wlan0=( "5.5M" )

which isn't documented in net.wireless, but it doesn't seem to have
any affect.  I've tried it on the router and the client which uses
wpa_supplicant.  I still see the rate on the client fluctuate all the
way up to 54 Mb/s in the output from iwconfig.  The router's rate is
always reported as 0 kb/s.

- Grant
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[gentoo-user] Re: Boot Gentoo to clean windows

[7v5w7go9ub0o]

Mikie wrote:

Does anyone know of a product (hopefully free) that can clean a Windows
PC while booted on Gentoo?

I guess I need a good malware tool that runs on Linux and cleans NTFS
volumes.

Thanks.


FWIW, AntiVir, Bitdefender, and F-Prot run quite well on Linux, and each 
has BOTH Linux and Windows Trojan and virus signatures. So you can 
install these and scan your windows box, and then scan your Linux 
box/downloads for malware (e.g. openoffice files, media files, etc.).


Add Dazuko, and you can get real-time scanning of your Linux box while 
downloading/compiling software.


(AntiVir and Bitdefender each usually score high on the 
antivirus/antiTrojan tests run for Windows bugs.


Bitdefender and F-Prot are ebuilds; AntiVir is available as a Linux source

hth
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: problem with 2 partition installation from gentoo minimal system

[Greg Bowser]

VFS: Cannot open root device "sda1" or unknown-block(0,0)
Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available
partitions:
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on
unknown-block(0,0)
 (hey, I remembered not to top post for once!)

Not that this hasn't been said, but this is almost definitely a device
driver issue. In my experience (and I've had this and similar errors on many
systems), when it's a file system problem (i.e. having the correct FS driver
compiled in), you get unknown-block(x,y) where x,y are both nonzero.

That said, something definitely needs to be changed with your kernel config.
I run several vmware servers (the free server), and have gentoo VMs on
those. If you'd like, I can post my .config for you to compare. Or I could
just look through the scsi options I have configured.

When I configured my VMs, I remember reading the following article: (along
with some trial and error, of course.)
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_on_VMware_in_Windows_NT/2K/XP#Kernel_Configuration


-- Greg

Postscript: As this is an error mouting your root file system, the fstab,
which is stored on the root file sysem, doesn't matter at this point in the
boot process.

[gentoo-user] Re: problem with 2 partition installation from gentoo minimal system

[Fei Liu]

Here is the complete grub.conf file:
more /boot/grub/grub.conf
default 0
timeout 8
gfxmenu (hd0,0)/boot/message

title 2.6.24.4-default
   root (hd0,0)
   kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/sda1 splash=silent showopts

/etc/fstab:
#/dev/BOOT  /boot   ext2
noauto,noatime  1 2
/dev/sda1   /   ext3
noatime 0 1
/dev/sda2   noneswap
sw  0 0
#/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  audo
noauto,ro   0 0
#/dev/fd0   /mnt/floppy auto
noauto  0 0


shm /dev/shmtmpfs   
nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0


I am looking into the SCSI file system issue.

Fei


Error messages:
...
md: ... autorun DONE
VFS: Cannot open root device "sda1" or unknown-block(0,0)
Please append a correct "root=" boot option; here are the available 
partitions:
Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on 
unknown-block(0,0)


There is one more thing, this is a vmware machine so the harddrive is a 
scsi harddrive.


Fei
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[gentoo-user] Re: problem with 2 partition installation from gentoo minimal system

[Fei Liu]

Fei Liu wrote:
Hello Group, I spend a whole day trying to get this to work. Here is 
my setup


/dev/sda1 / ext3   noatime  0 1
/dev/sda2 swap 
grub is installed using the 'root (hd0,0)' and 'setup (hd0)', no problem.


emerge kernel-sources worked fine.

However everytime the system boots, it reports the VFS panic (no root 
system found problem). The kernel has built in ext2 and ext3 support. 
The error hint is to supply root option during boot, but my boot 
command is this

kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/sda1

Is there something missing that I didn't think of that's causing the 
failures? I followed the steps outlined here:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml

except I am using a 2 partition setup.

Fei


Here is the complete grub.conf file:
more /boot/grub/grub.conf
default 0
timeout 8
gfxmenu (hd0,0)/boot/message

title 2.6.24.4-default
   root (hd0,0)
   kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/sda1 splash=silent showopts

/etc/fstab:
#/dev/BOOT  /boot   ext2noauto,noatime  1 2
/dev/sda1   /   ext3noatime 0 1
/dev/sda2   noneswapsw  0 0
#/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  audonoauto,ro   0 0
#/dev/fd0   /mnt/floppy autonoauto  0 0

shm /dev/shmtmpfs   
nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0


I am looking into the SCSI file system issue.

Fei
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Re: [gentoo-user] libmad sound artifacts

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 17:24:10 -0600, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

> Hi; sorry to crosspost, but I know for a fact that gentoo-amd64 has a
> much lower traffic than gentoo-user.

Why apologise? If you know it's wrong, don't do it.

Reposting the same day is also poor netiquette. If someone knows the
answer and wants to share it with you, they will do so. Reposting, and
cross-posting, only serves to annoy them and others.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Back Up My Hard Drive? How do I Put it in Reverse?


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[gentoo-user] libmad sound artifacts

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

Hi; sorry to crosspost, but I know for a fact that gentoo-amd64 has a
much lower traffic than gentoo-user.

Some weeks ago I noticed serious artifacts in the sound quality of my
desktop machine, when playing MP3's with Rhythmbox. It actually sounds
like a hardware problem; a speaker cable which is shorting, or a
speaker with a broken diaphragm, so at first I though my hardware was
broken.

But then I noticed that mpg123 and MPlayer don't have the artifacts,
with the same MP3's, so then I shifted the blame to GStreamer, because
Totem has also the problem. Finally, I was able to locate the problem:
it's libmad, because madplay have the artifacts too.

Everything that uses libmad sounds like crap, and I've recompiled the
library with any option that it offers, but to no avail: the artifacts
are still there (I can make them WORSE, with the default fixed point
math). I see bug reports that *seems* to be similar, but for ppc and
sparc, and those solutions didn't work for me.

Other thing: if I decode the MP3 to a WAV file with madplay
--output=wave:file.wav, the artifacts disappear.

Anyone has *any* idea of what can I do? I'm not using normal speakers;
I'm using an old stereo system, plugging the output from my sound card
to the video input of the stereo. But it sounds really nice if I'm not
using libmad.

Any help will be *really* appreciated.
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Facultad de Ciencias, UNAM

Re: [gentoo-user] iwl4965 performance

[Thomas Kahle]

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Hi again,

the problem seems to be related to WEP Encryption. Today I tried in a
WPA-Enterprise Network and it was much faster and more responsive too...

I will give the subobtions and 2.6.24 kernel a try anyway.
Thanks
Tom

Thomas Kahle wrote:
| Hi,
|
| I am using the iwl4965 driver which is included in the kernel
| 2.6.25-rc6. Everything works fine (Networkmanager, WPA2, etc.) The only
| thing I experience is a very bad performance.
| I cannot get more than around 30 kb/s. Also the responses are rather
| slow. If I open some new tabs in firefox it takes up to 5 seconds before
| there is enough data to render something.
| When using wired network its much faster.
| The router is also not the source of the problem, with my old airo card
| i could get up to 200 kb/s, the macbook running gentoo gets to around
| 500kb/s.
|
| Any ideas where to start investigation ?
|
| Thanks
| Thomas

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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

[Jerry McBride]

On Wednesday 26 March 2008 05:21:50 pm Grant wrote:
> >  > I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
> >  > feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:
> >  >
> >  > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
> >  >
> >  > for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
> >  > work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
> >  > time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
> >  > it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
> >  > goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
> >  >
> >  > Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
> >  > that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.
> >  >
> >  > - Grant
> >
> >  Grant,
> >
> >  Yes, lowering the rate to a "slower" speed will help greatly.  The lower
> > rates use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms
> > better connects over long hauls.
> >
> >  The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and whole
> >  heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with these
> >  models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
> >  http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain antennas you
> >  have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high on the
> >  speed scale doing it too.
>
> I'm using a Netgear PCI adapter on the AP and an Edimax USB adapter on
> the client.  Do you know how I can limit the rate?  Should it be done
> on the Gentoo AP or the client?
>
> - Grant

I use wireless-tools from portage. In it is iwconfig. A simple man iwconfig 
will show you what you need. Other thing you could do is configure the 
Wireless AP for a fixed rate... works for me.

Cheers.







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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

[Grant]

>  > I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
>  > feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:
>  >
>  > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
>  >
>  > for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
>  > work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
>  > time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
>  > it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
>  > goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
>  >
>  > Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
>  > that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.
>  >
>  > - Grant
>
>  Grant,
>
>  Yes, lowering the rate to a "slower" speed will help greatly.  The lower 
> rates
>  use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms better
>  connects over long hauls.
>
>  The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and whole
>  heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with these
>  models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at:
>  http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain antennas you
>  have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high on the
>  speed scale doing it too.

I'm using a Netgear PCI adapter on the AP and an Edimax USB adapter on
the client.  Do you know how I can limit the rate?  Should it be done
on the Gentoo AP or the client?

- Grant
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

[Mark Knecht]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Grant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
>  feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:
>
>  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
>
>  for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
>  work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
>  time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
>  it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
>  goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
>
>  Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
>  that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.
>
>  - Grant

It might but it didn't for me. I eventually bought 4 of these LinkSys
Wireless Access Point units and placed them in strategic locations to
get around the problems I was having.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833124012

They have worked very well for me but occasionally I have folks in my
neighborhood getting attached to my network and I have to forcibly
drive them off. I run these in their 'bridging' mode and don't use any
Linux wireless. All my Gentoo machines use wired networks talking to
these boxes or the router directly.

Hope this helps,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

[Jerry McBride]

On Wednesday 26 March 2008 04:53:24 pm Grant wrote:
> I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
> feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110
>
> for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
> work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
> time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
> it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
> goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.
>
> Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
> that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.
>
> - Grant

Grant,

Yes, lowering the rate to a "slower" speed will help greatly.  The lower rates 
use less compression and modulation... less complex wave forms better 
connects over long hauls. 

The antennas look very good, but what's driving them? I use and whole 
heartedly endorse SENAO products and have had very good luck with these 
models:   ECB-3220 (400 mw) or 2611CB3 PLUS (200 mw) at: 
http://www.wlansolution.com. Either unit with the high gain antennas you 
have,  will penetrate what you stated and probably go pretty high on the 
speed scale doing it too.


Cheers.




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[gentoo-user] Wireless: Limit rate to strengthen connection?

[Grant]

I'm trying to strengthen a wireless connection that spans about 150
feet and has to go through about 5 walls.  I bought two of these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833164110

for either end of the connection, but I'm having trouble making it
work well.  I've noticed the connection will be perfect for a short
time, but then disappear.  When watching iwconfig during this process,
it looks like the connection is good when on a low rate, but when it
goes to 54 Mbps it falls apart.

Should limiting the rate solve this problem?  If so, how can I do
that?  I'm using hostapd on the AP and wpa_supplicant on the client.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PRNG is not seeded

[Alex Schuster]

Dale writes:

> Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

> > Both the files /dev/random and /dev/urandom are missing in my system.
> >
> > How do i go ahead in fixing this issue
> >
> > Thanks and Regards
> >
> > Kaushal
>
> I just noticed this on mine.  Do you have the service urandom in the
> boot runlevel?

Looking at the init script it seems like if the character 
device /dev/urandom does not exist, it exits directly.

Does anyone know what exactly creates these device nodes and why it could 
fail? 
You could try to create them manually, but I doubt that this helps:
  mknod /dev/random  c 1 8
  mknod /dev/urandom c 1 9

Kayshal, do you remember doing anything spoecial before this happened? 
Booting a new kernel, updating things like hotplug / udev stuff?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Gnome: No sound - "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"

[Alan McKinnon]

On Wednesday 26 March 2008, Michael Schmarck wrote:
> Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Perhaps you could file a feature request at b.g.o. to get the old
> > behaviour back. It seems entirely reasonable to me that rhythmbox
> > should DEPENDs on gst-plugins-base which should conditionally
> > DEPEND on -alsa or -oss (or other sound systems).
>
> Isn't that what the gst-plugins-meta package does?
>
> RDEPEND="oss? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-oss-0.10 )
> alsa? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10 )
> esd? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-esd-0.10 )
> X? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-x-0.10 )
> xv? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo-0.10 )
> dvb? ( media-plugins/gst-plugins-dvb
>
>>=media-libs/gst-plugins-bad-0.10.6
>>
>>=media-plugins/gst-plugins-fluendo-mpegdemux-0.10
>>.15 )
>
> mythtv? ( media-plugins/gst-plugins-mythtv )"
>
> I filed a bug report at
> http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214831.

It all makes sense in a kind of roundabout way:

gst-plugins-meta installs everything, so rhythmbox does not DEPEND on 
it - that would force a user to have every possible plugin with no 
option to not have them (very much a gentoo no-no). -meta packages tend 
to not be DEPENDED on, they are there as a convenience for user that 
want everything and can't be bothered to put the whole shebang in 
world.

rhythmbox DEPENDS on gst-plugins-base to give you the required framework 
that will handle the plugins you want (you get to pick and install them 
manually...)

The question now is why were the alsa, oss and other drivers removed 
from the -base ebuild? I recall something similar with another sound 
app a while ago, the reason is that it could be used as a networked 
sound delivery server and there's no good reason to require the user to 
have sound driver support on the local machine. I suspect your bug will 
be closed WONTFIX, with luck the dev will justify their reasoning.



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Re: [gentoo-user] iwl4965 performance

[Florian Philipp]

On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 17:28 +0100, Thomas Kahle wrote:
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> Hi,
> 
> I am using the iwl4965 driver which is included in the kernel
> 2.6.25-rc6. Everything works fine (Networkmanager, WPA2, etc.) The only
> thing I experience is a very bad performance.
> I cannot get more than around 30 kb/s. Also the responses are rather
> slow. If I open some new tabs in firefox it takes up to 5 seconds before
> there is enough data to render something.
> When using wired network its much faster.
> The router is also not the source of the problem, with my old airo card
> i could get up to 200 kb/s, the macbook running gentoo gets to around
> 500kb/s.
> 
> Any ideas where to start investigation ?
> 
> Thanks
> Thomas

When I switched to iwl3945 I had problems with a very unstable
connection (just stable enough to allow wpa_supplicant to recover),
decreasing effective bandwidth a lot. Enabling every suboption except of
debugging for "Intel Wireless WiFi Link Drivers" in the kernel 
resolved it.

Does it work with kernel 2.6.24?

Maybe you could try wpa_supplicant with debugging enabled?

wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -d

or even
wpa_supplicant -i wlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd


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Re: [gentoo-user] iwl4965 performance

[José Pedro Saraiva]

Hi,

Have you tried using the driver from the 2.6.24* series kernel? I've been
using iwl3945 from tuxonice-sources 2.6.24-r3 without any performance or
stability problems whatsoever.
Good luck.

Regards,
José Pedro

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> Hi,
>
> I am using the iwl4965 driver which is included in the kernel
> 2.6.25-rc6. Everything works fine (Networkmanager, WPA2, etc.) The only
> thing I experience is a very bad performance.
> I cannot get more than around 30 kb/s. Also the responses are rather
> slow. If I open some new tabs in firefox it takes up to 5 seconds before
> there is enough data to render something.
> When using wired network its much faster.
> The router is also not the source of the problem, with my old airo card
> i could get up to 200 kb/s, the macbook running gentoo gets to around
> 500kb/s.
>
> Any ideas where to start investigation ?
>
> Thanks
> Thomas
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Re: [gentoo-user] PRNG is not seeded

[Dale]

Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:17:07 +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

> when i restart sshd I get PRNG is not seeded
>
> # /etc/init.d/sshd restart
> PRNG is not seeded

Does /dev/urandom exist? What are it's permissions?


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Hi

Thanks for the clue,

Both the files /dev/random and /dev/urandom are missing in my system.

How do i go ahead in fixing this issue

Thanks and Regards

Kaushal



I just noticed this on mine.  Do you have the service urandom in the 
boot runlevel? 


[EMAIL PROTECTED] / # eselect rc list boot
Init scripts to be started by runlevel boot
 bootmisc
 checkfs
 checkroot
 clock
 consolefont
 hostname
 keymaps
 localmount
 modules
 net.lo
 rmnologin
 serial
 urandom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / #


That may help.  If it is there, try restarting it and see if you get any 
errors.  Make sure you don't have anything important running just in 
case it stops other services when restarting this service.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] PRNG is not seeded

[Kaushal Shriyan]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 9:46 PM, Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:17:07 +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:
>
> > when i restart sshd I get PRNG is not seeded
> >
> > # /etc/init.d/sshd restart
> > PRNG is not seeded
>
> Does /dev/urandom exist? What are it's permissions?
>
>
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>
> Never eat more than you can lift.
>

Hi

Thanks for the clue,

Both the files /dev/random and /dev/urandom are missing in my system.

How do i go ahead in fixing this issue

Thanks and Regards

Kaushal

Re: [gentoo-user] openchrome, xvmc and mplayer

[Uwe Thiem]

On Wednesday 26 March 2008, Marc Blumentritt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just read on this list, that the x11 driver openchrome for via
> chipsets hit the tree. Does anyone know, if mplayer in portage tree
> is patched to work with openchrome and xvmc?

It doesn't need to be patched. Just emerge it with "xvmc" and use the 
the right vo.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with 2 partition installation from gentoo minimal system

[Uwe Thiem]

On Wednesday 26 March 2008, Fei Liu wrote:
> Hello Group, I spend a whole day trying to get this to work. Here
> is my setup
>
> /dev/sda1 / ext3   noatime 
> 0 1 /dev/sda2 swap
>
> grub is installed using the 'root (hd0,0)' and 'setup (hd0)', no
> problem.
>
> emerge kernel-sources worked fine.
>
> However everytime the system boots, it reports the VFS panic (no
> root system found problem). The kernel has built in ext2 and ext3
> support. The error hint is to supply root option during boot, but
> my boot command is this
> kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/sda1

Please post your whole grub config.

Uwe

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RE: [gentoo-user] problem with 2 partition installation from gent oo minimal system

[Prado, Renato (R.)]

I had this problem too... the problem was SCSI not being compiled in my
kernel alongside the SATA driver. Remember to ensure none of them are being
built into modules.

Renato Borges A. Prado
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-Original Message-
From: Fei Liu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: quarta-feira, 26 de março de 2008 12:40
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] problem with 2 partition installation from gentoo
minimal system

Hello Group, I spend a whole day trying to get this to work. Here is my 
setup

/dev/sda1 / ext3   noatime  0 1
/dev/sda2 swap  

grub is installed using the 'root (hd0,0)' and 'setup (hd0)', no problem.

emerge kernel-sources worked fine.

However everytime the system boots, it reports the VFS panic (no root 
system found problem). The kernel has built in ext2 and ext3 support. 
The error hint is to supply root option during boot, but my boot command 
is this
kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/sda1

Is there something missing that I didn't think of that's causing the 
failures? I followed the steps outlined here:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml

except I am using a 2 partition setup.

Fei
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[gentoo-user] 2 dispatch-conf questions

[Alex Schuster]

Hi there!

Question 1: We all have replace-cvs enabled in /etc/dispatch.conf, do we, 
because this makes it easy to re-create old config versions. But how 
exactly would I get back an older version of a file? I've never seen an 
example yet. Would s.o. like to post a little example or point to some set 
that actually mentions this?

Question 2: I also have replace-unmodified=yes, but I often see files that I 
never even looked at before. What about that?

Thanks,

Wonko
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[gentoo-user] openchrome, xvmc and mplayer

[Marc Blumentritt]

Hi,

I just read on this list, that the x11 driver openchrome for via 
chipsets hit the tree. Does anyone know, if mplayer in portage tree is 
patched to work with openchrome and xvmc?


Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with 2 partition installation from gentoo minimal system

[Alex Schuster]

Fei Liu writes:

> Hello Group, I spend a whole day trying to get this to work. Here is my
> setup
>
> /dev/sda1 / ext3   noatime  0 1
> /dev/sda2 swap
>
> grub is installed using the 'root (hd0,0)' and 'setup (hd0)', no problem.
>
> emerge kernel-sources worked fine.
>
> However everytime the system boots, it reports the VFS panic (no root
> system found problem). The kernel has built in ext2 and ext3 support.

Does it also have the right IDE drivers? This /dev/sda drive is SATA I 
assume, is this configured correctly in the kernel, and is the SCSI stuff 
also compiled directly into the kerne? Do you see kernel messages 
identifying your IDE chipset, does "sda" appear there somewhere?

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Re: [gentoo-user] problem with 2 partition installation from gentoo minimal system

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 11:40:10 -0400, Fei Liu wrote:

> However everytime the system boots, it reports the VFS panic (no root 
> system found problem). The kernel has built in ext2 and ext3 support. 
> The error hint is to supply root option during boot, but my boot
> command is this
> kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/sda1


Do  you have support for your drive controller built into the kernel (not
as a module)?


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Re: [gentoo-user] PRNG is not seeded

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:17:07 +0530, Kaushal Shriyan wrote:

> when i restart sshd I get PRNG is not seeded
> 
> # /etc/init.d/sshd restart
> PRNG is not seeded

Does /dev/urandom exist? What are it's permissions?


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Re: [gentoo-user] PRNG is not seeded

[Alex Schuster]

Kaushal Shriyan writes:

> when i restart sshd I get PRNG is not seeded
>
> # /etc/init.d/sshd restart
> PRNG is not seeded
>  #
>
> No idea as what is going on

I can reproduce this behaviour when I rename both /dev/random 
and /dev/urandom. Are they perhaps both missing on your system?

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[gentoo-user] PRNG is not seeded

[Kaushal Shriyan]

Hi

when i restart sshd I get PRNG is not seeded

# /etc/init.d/sshd restart
PRNG is not seeded
 #

No idea as what is going on

Thanks and Regards

Kaushal

[gentoo-user] problem with 2 partition installation from gentoo minimal system

[Fei Liu]

Hello Group, I spend a whole day trying to get this to work. Here is my 
setup


/dev/sda1 / ext3   noatime  0 1
/dev/sda2 swap  


grub is installed using the 'root (hd0,0)' and 'setup (hd0)', no problem.

emerge kernel-sources worked fine.

However everytime the system boots, it reports the VFS panic (no root 
system found problem). The kernel has built in ext2 and ext3 support. 
The error hint is to supply root option during boot, but my boot command 
is this

kernel /boot/kernel root=/dev/sda1

Is there something missing that I didn't think of that's causing the 
failures? I followed the steps outlined here:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml

except I am using a 2 partition setup.

Fei
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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot Gentoo to clean windows

[Davi Vidal]

Em Wednesday 26 March 2008, Mikie escreveu:
> Does anyone know of a product (hopefully free) that can clean a Windows
> PC while booted on Gentoo?
>
> I guess I need a good malware tool that runs on Linux and cleans NTFS
> volumes.
>

AFAIK, AVG runs on Linux. And you can use ntfs-3g.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot Gentoo to clean windows

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 schrieb ext Mikie:

> Does anyone know of a product (hopefully free) that can clean a Windows
> PC while booted on Gentoo?
>
> I guess I need a good malware tool that runs on Linux and cleans NTFS
> volumes.

What do you mean with "clean"? Remove Windows? Use fdisk.

Bye...

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[Mikie]

Does anyone know of a product (hopefully free) that can clean a Windows
PC while booted on Gentoo?

I guess I need a good malware tool that runs on Linux and cleans NTFS
volumes.

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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] ATX PS recommendation

[masterprometheus]

maxim wexler wrote:

> Hi group,
> 
> I bought a Coolmax PS which was touted as the latest
> and greatest and then it died. When I opened it up I
> found the output crowded with puffy, oozing
> electrolytic caps, most made by Fuhjyyu. A search for
> Fuhjyyu on Google revealed that I'm not alone.
> 
> Can somebody recommend a *reliable*, up-to-date PS,
>>=400W with a 120mm fan?
> 
> Maxim
> 

That one is a good choice if you really need 400+W PSU :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139003

Note : This is my first post to this list. If anything wrong please
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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Uwe Thiem]

On Wednesday 26 March 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 schrieb ext Uwe Thiem:

> > Yes, and it isn't necessary. You lock your servers away so that
> > nobody has physical access to them.
>
> What if you sell them or give them back (leased machines)? Do you
> erase your discs beforehand.

Depends on the content of the disks. If it is sensitive, I wipe them 
(not just rm or mkfs). But then, this problem has never occurred to 
me. I don't lease servers, nor do I sell them. Usually, my servers 
aren't sellable by the time I can't use them any more. ;-)

Uwe 

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Re: [gentoo-user] permission denied (13)

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 schrieb ext Kaushal Shriyan:
> On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Dirk Heinrichs
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 schrieb ext Kaushal Shriyan:
> > > I am running the command
> > >
> > > /usr/bin/rsync -avO /var/lib/mysql [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/ >
> > > /tmp/rsync-${TIMESTAMP}.log 2>&1
> > >
> > > I set the setfacl command using the below command for the user ssp
> > >
> > > sudo setfacl -R -m g:ssp:rwx /var/lib/mysql
> > > sudo setfacl -R -m u:ssp:rwx /var/lib/mysql
> > >
> > > Am i missing any thing
> >
> > ssp != sms
>
> I did not understand your email

In the command above, you used user "sms", but you changed the ACL to allow 
access for user "ssp". sms is not equal to (!=) ssp. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] permission denied (13)

[Kaushal Shriyan]

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 schrieb ext Kaushal Shriyan:
> > I am running the command
> >
> > /usr/bin/rsync -avO /var/lib/mysql [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/ >
> > /tmp/rsync-${TIMESTAMP}.log 2>&1
> >
> > I set the setfacl command using the below command for the user ssp
> >
> > sudo setfacl -R -m g:ssp:rwx /var/lib/mysql
> > sudo setfacl -R -m u:ssp:rwx /var/lib/mysql
> >
> > Am i missing any thing
>
> ssp != sms
>
> HTH...
>
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Hi Dirk

I did not understand your email

Thanks and Regards

Kaushal

Re: [gentoo-user] uvesafb and screen resolution

[Alexander Meinke]

Ian Lee wrote:

i always thought vga= was only used by the old vesafb driver
i use video=uvesafb:1024x768-32
i cant get any wide screen modes to work at all, anybody else know how??


Did you tried to find out what resolutions are supported by your graphic card 
(e.g. hwinfo --framebuffer)? I only know this tool to get the necessary hex code.

So I don't really know if the vga= option works with uvesafb too.
I have to correct my statement that I am using uvesafb. It seems that I am using 
vesafb. This is because I don't want either any additional userspace application 
(v86d) nor bootsplash etc.



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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Gnome: No sound - "No volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found"

[Michael Schmarck]

Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Perhaps you could file a feature request at b.g.o. to get the old
> behaviour back. It seems entirely reasonable to me that rhythmbox
> should DEPENDs on gst-plugins-base which should conditionally DEPEND
> on -alsa or -oss (or other sound systems).

Isn't that what the gst-plugins-meta package does?

RDEPEND="oss? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-oss-0.10 )
alsa? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.10 )
esd? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-esd-0.10 )
X? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-x-0.10 )
xv? ( >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo-0.10 )
dvb? ( media-plugins/gst-plugins-dvb
   >=media-libs/gst-plugins-bad-0.10.6
   >=media-plugins/gst-plugins-fluendo-mpegdemux-0.10.15 )
mythtv? ( media-plugins/gst-plugins-mythtv )"

I filed a bug report at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214831.

Michael

PS: Now you're being helpful. Thanks a lot for that!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 schrieb ext Uwe Thiem:

> On Tuesday 25 March 2008, Grant wrote:
> >
> > Would the type of filesystem encryption you guys are talking about
> > be unsuitable for a high-traffic server because of performance
> > considerations?
>
> Yes, and it isn't necessary. You lock your servers away so that nobody
> has physical access to them.

What if you sell them or give them back (leased machines)? Do you erase your 
discs beforehand.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recovering root password

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Dienstag, 25. März 2008 schrieb ext Wael Nasreddine:
> This One Time, at Band Camp, Dirk Heinrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
said, On Tue, Mar 25, 2008 at 07:02:59PM +0100:
> > I use LUKS encrypted logical volumes. Root fs is encrypted with a
> > password, all other volumes are encrypted with a keyfile located on /.
>
> Why not encrypt a big fat partition and then have an LVM array over it
> for all your partitions including swap ??

Hmm, could do it this way also, yes.

> Suspend2 will work with this 
> setup just in case you are wondering.

I don't use it.

Bye...

Dirk
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Re: [gentoo-user] permission denied (13)

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am Mittwoch, 26. März 2008 schrieb ext Kaushal Shriyan:
> I am running the command
>
> /usr/bin/rsync -avO /var/lib/mysql [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/var/lib/ >
> /tmp/rsync-${TIMESTAMP}.log 2>&1
>
> I set the setfacl command using the below command for the user ssp
>
> sudo setfacl -R -m g:ssp:rwx /var/lib/mysql
> sudo setfacl -R -m u:ssp:rwx /var/lib/mysql
>
> Am i missing any thing

ssp != sms

HTH...

Dirk
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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: rhythmbox plays silently

[Michael Schmarck]

Alan McKinnon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Now, onto your actual problem. It is exceptionally hard to even attempt
> to provide a solution unless someone else fixed the exact same problem
> before, as you have not provided any configuration at all and very
> little useful information.

What would you have wanted to see? I wrote that sound works. You
don't need more information.

> Hence your post was as much noise as mine 
> was. 

That's why other people, or at least Andrey, was able to help, where as
you were just a moron.

> Nonetheless I shall try, so please provide the following: 

How nice from you, now that the problem has been solved.

> 1. the output of lspci as it relates to audio so we can see what
> hardware you have

Why should that matter? After all, sound playback works (in other
programs).

> 2. What engine does rhythmbox use? gstreamer? If so, do other gstreamer
> apps work correctly on your box?

That was the million dollar question.

> 3. With what options did you compile rhythmbox and gstreamer (if
> applicable)?

Does not matter.

> 4. Lastly, this is out on left field, please confirm that rhythmbox is
> indeed using alsa and not oss

Question 2 covers that.

Michael

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux & Motherboard

[ionut cucu]

On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 00:45:21 +
Neil Bothwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Mar 2008 02:09:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> 
> > I can't remember a single ethernet device in the last several years
> > that wasn't fully supported and JustWorked(tm) straight out the box
> > on any old arb Linux system. 
> 
> When I bought my Asus P5B-E board last year, the drivers for the
> Attansic L1 gigabit NIC hadn't made it into the kernel and no live CD
> would enable it. I ended up putting a spare PCI NIC in to install
> Gentoo, then patching the kernel to enable the on-board one.
> 
> It appeared in the next kernel release, so is not problem now, but
> that was less than a year ago.
Something similar to that I was referring myself: less than a year ago
some cheap realtek model was not kernel supported. I was lucky though:
only after  2 weeks it got in to the mm kernel(or was it git?)
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