Re: [gentoo-user] problems updating system

[Arnau Bria]

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 10:46:11 +0100
Arnau Bria wrote:

Hi, 

>   * Generated new 4_raw.rr and 4_owners.rr
>  * Cleaning list of packages to rebuild
>  * Generated new 4_pkgs.rr
>  * Assigning packages to ebuilds
>  * Generated new 4_ebuilds.rr
>  * Evaluating package order
>  * Generated new 5_order.rr
>  * All prepared. Starting rebuild
> emerge --oneshot  dev-libs/apr-util:0
> dev-perl/DBD-mysql:0
> net-libs/gnutls:0
> sys-devel/gettext:0
> ..
> Calculating dependencies |
> emerge: there are no ebuilds to satisfy "dev-libs/apr-util:0".
> 
> Seems that my system has some other problems...
> 
> going to sync again

I finally solved my problem by doing next:

emerge -C dev-perl/DBD-mysql net-libs/gnutls sys-devel/gettext dev-libs/apr-util
emerge --nodeps sys-devel/gettext sys-apps/attr
revdep-rebuild
emerge -u portage 

and now I'm doing the emergee -uD world

Not recommended at all :-)


cheers,


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Re: [gentoo-user] NIC not detected after Kernel upgrade

[daid kahl]

> > Also, you should avoid using oldconfig except for really minor kernel
> > upgrades.  I know this is mentioned in documentation elsewhere, but
> > just a useful reminder.
> >
> > ~daid
>
> This has been discussed on this list before.  Running make oldconfig
> works fine.  I, and a lot of others, have said this many times.  I
> configed one kernel about 5 years ago and have used oldconfig ever
> since.  It is faster and less prone to problems than starting from scratch.
>
> If you are going from 2.4 to 2.6, then you should start fresh.  I
> recently went from 2.6.23 to a 2.6.28 with no problem, other than trying
> to figure out that new group stuff.
>
> Dale
>
>
Huh.  I was going from 2.6.23 to 2.6.26 about 2 weeks ago and using
oldconfig was giving me some major trouble as I recall.  Not sure
specifically now, but I know CONFIG_HPET_TIMER had to be turned off later
during manual configuration, or my machine was hanging after some ACPI
scripts.  This behavior is replicated elsewhere for similar hardware, though
the author claimed it was fixed after 2.6.25 which I found to clearly not be
the case.  I had also not manually configured my own kernel either, so I
thought it's worth the experience.

I could save my current configuration for 2.6.26 and try oldconfig again
from 2.6.23.9 to make another 2.6.26 kernel and see what the problem was.

~daid

Re: [gentoo-user] NIC not detected after Kernel upgrade

[daid kahl]

>
> I'm inclined to sumbit to the expertise of others when choosing kernel
> compilation options, and so I generally boot a recent liveCD and take a copy
> of the kernel .config from there (`zcat /proc/config.gz`)
>
> System Rescue CD uses a kernel of about the same vintage as the one you're
> trying to upgrade to. I suggest you boot with it & see if your NIC works. If
> so, copy the kernel config & `make oldconfig`.
> http://www.sysresccd.org/Main_Page
>
> Stroller.
>

I'm pretty sure the kernels used for LiveCDs are absolutely huge because
they just assume you have basically every piece of hardware available, and
thus take much longer to boot (comparing a LiveCD on my machine to my
kernel, maybe 4 to 5 times longer).  So, sure this will make your computer
work, but it doesn't really seem like a good way to go about things, at
least not other than for the first boot and a backup kernel.

Come to think of it, this sounds like an amazing way to make a backup kernel
for when something goes wrong so I don't have to throw in the Live CD
(assuming grub is still booting at that point).  But not for your primary
kernel for daily use.

~daid

Re: [gentoo-user] NIC not detected after Kernel upgrade

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:59:38 +0900, daid kahl wrote:

> I'm pretty sure the kernels used for LiveCDs are absolutely huge because
> they just assume you have basically every piece of hardware available,
> and thus take much longer to boot (comparing a LiveCD on my machine to
> my kernel, maybe 4 to 5 times longer).

The kernel itself isn't that large, all the drivers are compiled as
modules and anyneeded for booting are stuffed into an initrd.

The slow boot times are due to the whole filesystem being stored as a
compressed image on a slow medium.


-- 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

[Matt Harrison]

Shawn Haggett wrote:

On Wednesday 18 February 2009 16:24:45 Paul Hartman wrote:
  
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson  


wrote:
  

G'day,

I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my
new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use.
Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing
anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy
usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ).

I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick
fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue when
I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not an
issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ).

I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that
doesn't appear to be an issue.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks.
  

I've never known what those numbers represent (I know it is "load
average", but what it means, and what is the range, I have no idea)...
Anyway, it seems mine are always around 1+. It's not perfectly idle
but not running seti or anything intensive either.



I remember trying to google the meaning of those numbers once. It was VERY 
hard to find out what they were. It's something like, average number of 
processes in the running or ready to run states for the last 1, 5 & 15 
minutes.


Shawn

  
googling "load average" brings me to 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_(computing) which explains it somewhat.


HTH

Matt

Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

[Alejandro]

2009/2/18 Matt Harrison 

> Shawn Haggett wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday 18 February 2009 16:24:45 Paul Hartman wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson 
>>>
>>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> G'day,

 I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my
 new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use.
 Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing
 anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy
 usb and sd and sr drivers in the kernel ).

 I had Ubuntu on this thing for a week or so as I needed something quick
 fast when my workstation chipfan died on me and this wasn't an issue
 when
 I had that installed so I think I can rule out hardware. Also, its not
 an
 issue when I boot up via live cd ( sysrescuecd ).

 I've tried different cpufreq governors ( default is ondemand ) and that
 doesn't appear to be an issue.

 Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

 Thanks.


>>> I've never known what those numbers represent (I know it is "load
>>> average", but what it means, and what is the range, I have no idea)...
>>> Anyway, it seems mine are always around 1+. It's not perfectly idle
>>> but not running seti or anything intensive either.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I remember trying to google the meaning of those numbers once. It was VERY
>> hard to find out what they were. It's something like, average number of
>> processes in the running or ready to run states for the last 1, 5 & 15
>> minutes.
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>>
>>
> googling "load average" brings me to
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Load_(computing)which
>  explains it somewhat.
>
> HTH
>
> Matt
>
> install htop, order process by CPU % and check which one is eating your
CPU.

Re: [gentoo-user] wicd start failed

[Chuanwen Wu]

Hi, thanks for your tips!
> Do you have pygobject installed?

I have updated pygobject to 2.14.2, then updated dbus-python to
0.82.4, now the problem is fixed :)


-- 
wcw

Re: [gentoo-user] NIC not detected after Kernel upgrade

[Evgeniy Bushkov]

daid kahl пишет:


> Also, you should avoid using oldconfig except for really minor
kernel
> upgrades. I know this is mentioned in documentation elsewhere, but
> just a useful reminder.
>
> ~daid

This has been discussed on this list before. Running make oldconfig
works fine. I, and a lot of others, have said this many times. I
configed one kernel about 5 years ago and have used oldconfig ever
since. It is faster and less prone to problems than starting from
scratch.

If you are going from 2.4 to 2.6, then you should start fresh. I
recently went from 2.6.23 to a 2.6.28 with no problem, other than
trying
to figure out that new group stuff.

Dale


Huh. I was going from 2.6.23 to 2.6.26 about 2 weeks ago and using 
oldconfig was giving me some major trouble as I recall. Not sure 
specifically now, but I know CONFIG_HPET_TIMER had to be turned off 
later during manual configuration, or my machine was hanging after 
some ACPI scripts. This behavior is replicated elsewhere for similar 
hardware, though the author claimed it was fixed after 2.6.25 which I 
found to clearly not be the case. I had also not manually configured 
my own kernel either, so I thought it's worth the experience.


I could save my current configuration for 2.6.26 and try oldconfig 
again from 2.6.23.9 to make another 2.6.26 kernel and see what the 
problem was.


~daid
Hm, may be it's off-topic but I've seen such behavior on one of my 
servers - some ACPI events were hanging server with last kernels. The 
only thing I had to be done is to turn off ACPI in BIOS. Now service 
local isn't working and CPU frequency is not scaling also. Is this 
normal or can this parameter (CONFIG_HPET_TIMER) help me?


Best regards,
Evgeniy B.



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[gentoo-user] Re: Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

[James]

  podgeweb.com> writes:


> > I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my
> > new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right
> > after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything
> > out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd
> > and sr drivers in the kernel ).

Ah,

I have had a similar problem a few months ago on one system (AMD 64 X2).
I never figured it out, but I suspect that rebuilding X, KDE and many
other utilities over time, fixed it. X seems to use more resources than 
it should. But, in reality, after a while, it just went away. None of the
other AMD 64 X2 systems I manage, had the problem. The load was always 1.0
or higher.


I think I even posted to this list and we discussed the meaning of "load"
too.

Here's some good reading on "load average"

http://www.teamquest.com/resources/gunther/display/5/

Re: [gentoo-user] wicd start failed

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:24:15 +0800, Chuanwen Wu wrote:

> > Do you have pygobject installed?  
> 
> I have updated pygobject to 2.14.2, then updated dbus-python to
> 0.82.4, now the problem is fixed :)

It looks like the dependencies are wrong,have you filed a bug?


-- 
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Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.


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Re: [gentoo-user] wicd start failed

[Alejandro]

2009/2/18 Neil Bothwick 

> On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:24:15 +0800, Chuanwen Wu wrote:
>
> > > Do you have pygobject installed?
> >
> > I have updated pygobject to 2.14.2, then updated dbus-python to
> > 0.82.4, now the problem is fixed :)
>
> It looks like the dependencies are wrong,have you filed a bug?
>
>
> --
> Neil Bothwick
>
> Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.
>

Are you installing wicd from portage?

Re: [gentoo-user] wicd start failed

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:46:30 -0200, Alejandro wrote:

> Are you installing wicd from portage?

Yes, and it works fine. But that could be because that unspecified
dependencies were pulled in by something else.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

"I laugh in the face of danger, then I hide until it goes away"


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[gentoo-user] nfsd: random nfsd crashes

[Florian Klink]

hi,

i'm having here a gentoo ~x86 server running on 2.6.29-rc4. It has a nfs
server for booting diskless clients.
In dmesg I see random crashes of nfsd, which cause the clients to hang
until i reboot the server. Restarting /etc/init.d/nfs hangs at "Starting
NFS daemon...".

using nfs-utils-1.1.4-r1

kernel config:
---snip-
cat linux/.config|grep -i nfs
CONFIG_NFS_FS=y
CONFIG_NFS_V3=y
CONFIG_NFS_V3_ACL=y
CONFIG_NFS_V4=y
CONFIG_ROOT_NFS=y
CONFIG_NFSD=m
CONFIG_NFSD_V2_ACL=y
CONFIG_NFSD_V3=y
CONFIG_NFSD_V3_ACL=y
# CONFIG_NFSD_V4 is not set
CONFIG_NFS_ACL_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_NFS_COMMON=y
---snap-

dmesg output:
---snip-
[   23.818334] Installing knfsd (copyright (C) 1996 o...@monad.swb.de).
[   23.893486] rpc.nfsd used greatest stack depth: 5604 bytes left
[78016.584819] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at
0004
[78016.584827] IP: [] inode_has_perm+0x21/0x67
[78016.584839] *pde =  
[78016.584846] Oops:  [#1] SMP 
[78016.584904] last sysfs file: /sys/kernel/uevent_seqnum
[78016.584956] Modules linked in: nfsd exportfs tun snd_intel8x0
snd_ac97_codec ac97_bus snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore snd_page_alloc
[78016.585080] 
[78016.585128] Pid: 2151, comm: nfsd Not tainted (2.6.29-rc4 #2)
OptiPlex GX270   
[78016.585225] EIP: 0060:[] EFLAGS: 00010246 CPU: 0
[78016.585278] EIP is at inode_has_perm+0x21/0x67
[78016.585329] EAX:  EBX:  ECX: 0002 EDX: d9835290
[78016.585386] ESI: d55e4880 EDI: f12bbf00 EBP: f107fe30 ESP: f107fddc
[78016.585439]  DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS:  SS: 0068
[78016.585492] Process nfsd (pid: 2151, ti=f107e000 task=f6c76880
task.ti=f107e000)
[78016.585586] Stack:
[78016.585632]  0004 f6774d80 0002 c115f766 f107fdfc c10889b3
0044 d9835290
[78016.585700]  f107fe10 f7f3b0d9 f6774d80 f105a200  f107fe90
f7f3a88d f107fe20
[78016.585715]  c101da2e f107fe28 0002 d55e4880 d9835290 f107fe4c
c1163543 
[78016.585715] Call Trace:
[78016.585715]  [] ? security_inode_permission+0x1a/0x20
[78016.585715]  [] ? inode_permission+0x78/0x83
[78016.585715]  [] ? nfsd_permission+0x8e/0xda [nfsd]
[78016.585715]  [] ? fh_verify+0x45f/0x525 [nfsd]
[78016.585715]  [] ? need_resched+0x14/0x1e
[78016.585715]  [] ? selinux_dentry_open+0xb0/0xb8
[78016.585715]  [] ? security_dentry_open+0xf/0x11
[78016.585715]  [] ? __dentry_open+0xef/0x1e8
[78016.585715]  [] ? dentry_open+0x5c/0x67
[78016.585715]  [] ? nfsd_open+0x101/0x125 [nfsd]
[78016.585715]  [] ? nfsd_read+0x5f/0x99 [nfsd]
[78016.585715]  [] ? nfsd_proc_read+0xec/0x120 [nfsd]
[78016.585715]  [] ? cache_check+0x55/0x376
[78016.585715]  [] ? page_address+0x15/0x7c
[78016.585715]  [] ? nfssvc_decode_readargs+0xa8/0xaf [nfsd]
[78016.585715]  [] ? nfsd_dispatch+0xcf/0x19e [nfsd]
[78016.585715]  [] ? svc_process+0x34a/0x558
[78016.585715]  [] ? nfsd+0x117/0x167 [nfsd]
[78016.585715]  [] ? nfsd+0x0/0x167 [nfsd]
[78016.585715]  [] ? kthread+0x3b/0x62
[78016.585715]  [] ? kthread+0x0/0x62
[78016.585715]  [] ? kernel_thread_helper+0x7/0x10
[78016.585715] Code: 04 89 46 68 5b 89 d0 5e 5d c3 55 89 e5 57 89 c7 56
31 c0 53 83 ec 48 89 4d b4 8b 5d 08 f6 82 45 01 00 00 02 75 43 8b 47 58
85 db <8b> 70 04 8b 82 4c 01 00 00 89 45 b0 75 19 8d 7d bc b9 0e 00 00 
[78016.585715] EIP: [] inode_has_perm+0x21/0x67 SS:ESP
0068:f107fddc
[78016.587989] ---[ end trace 9bc36c246382c5e4 ]---
[78016.588095] nfsd used greatest stack depth: 5276 bytes left
[78016.590769] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at
0004
[78016.590926] IP: [] inode_has_perm+0x21/0x67
[78016.591061] *pde =  
[78016.591175] Oops:  [#2] SMP 
[78016.591320] last sysfs file: /sys/kernel/uevent_seqnum
[78016.591404] Modules linked in: nfsd exportfs tun snd_intel8x0
snd_ac97_codec ac97_bus snd_pcm snd_timer snd soundcore snd_page_alloc
[78016.591933] 
[78016.592012] Pid: 2155, comm: nfsd Tainted: G  D(2.6.29-rc4
#2) OptiPlex GX270   
[78016.592056] EIP: 0060:[] EFLAGS: 00010246 CPU: 0
[78016.592056] EIP is at inode_has_perm+0x21/0x67
[78016.592056] EAX:  EBX:  ECX: 0002 EDX: d9835290
[78016.592056] ESI: d55e4780 EDI: f12bb100 EBP: f1103e30 ESP: f1103ddc
[78016.592056]  DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS:  SS: 0068
[78016.592056] Process nfsd (pid: 2155, ti=f1102000 task=f6c73900
task.ti=f1102000)
[78016.592056] Stack:
[78016.592056]  0004 f6774d80 0002 c115f766 f1103dfc c10889b3
0044 d9835290
[78016.592056]  f1103e10 f7f3b0d9 f6774d80 f105ba00  f1103e90
f7f3a88d f1103e20
[78016.592056]  c101da2e f1103e28 0002 d55e4780 d9835290 f1103e4c
c1163543 
[78016.592056] Call Trace:
[78016.592056]  [] ? security_inode_permission+0x1a/0x20
[78016.592056]  [] ? inode_permission+0x78/0x83
[78016.592056]  [] ? nfsd_permission+0x8e/0xda [nfsd]
[78016.592056]  [] ? fh_verify+0x45f/0x525 [nfsd]
[78016.592056]  [] ? need_resched+0x14/0x1e
[78016.592056]  [] ? selinux

[gentoo-user] Are the video files there, or aren't they?

[Michael Sullivan]

I've had a lot of problems with X today.  I finally got X back up, but
when I went to check MythTV, it didn't work.  I started tracking down
the problem.  I went into mythtv-setup and it said that it couldn't find
any video inputs, so I examined /dev/v4l/video0.  What I found was
really confusing:

camille ~ # ls -l /dev/v4l
total 0
crw-rw 1 root video 81,  64 Feb 18 09:20 radio0
crw-rw 1 root video 81, 224 Feb 18 09:20 vbi0
crw-rw 1 root video 81,   0 Feb 18 09:20 video0
crw-rw 1 root video 81,  24 Feb 18 09:20 video24
crw-rw 1 root video 81,  32 Feb 18 09:20 video32
camille ~ # cat /dev/v4l/video0 
cat: /dev/v4l/video0: No such device or address


Is it there, or isn't it?  I don't know if it matters, but when I was
trying to fix the X problem, I built and booted with a new kernel:

camille ~ # uname -a
Linux camille 2.6.27-gentoo-r8 #1 SMP Wed Feb 18 14:20:01 CST 2009 i686
GNU/Linux


Please help!

Re: [gentoo-user] Are the video files there, or aren't they?

[Albert Hopkins]

On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:30 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> I've had a lot of problems with X today.  I finally got X back up, but
> when I went to check MythTV, it didn't work.  I started tracking down
> the problem.  I went into mythtv-setup and it said that it couldn't find
> any video inputs, so I examined /dev/v4l/video0.  What I found was
> really confusing:
> 
> camille ~ # ls -l /dev/v4l
> total 0
> crw-rw 1 root video 81,  64 Feb 18 09:20 radio0
> crw-rw 1 root video 81, 224 Feb 18 09:20 vbi0
> crw-rw 1 root video 81,   0 Feb 18 09:20 video0
> crw-rw 1 root video 81,  24 Feb 18 09:20 video24
> crw-rw 1 root video 81,  32 Feb 18 09:20 video32
> camille ~ # cat /dev/v4l/video0 
> cat: /dev/v4l/video0: No such device or address
> 
> 
> Is it there, or isn't it?  I don't know if it matters, but when I was
> trying to fix the X problem, I built and booted with a new kernel:

This is most likely completely unrelated to your issues with X.  This is
a problem with your tuner card or its drivers.

If you compiled a new kernel did you remember to re-compile any
out-of-tree kernel modules?  Are you sure the tuner drivers have the
correct (versions of) firmware to load?  Did you check dmesg?

-a

Re: [gentoo-user] Are the video files there, or aren't they?

[Michael Sullivan]

On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 16:34 -0500, Albert Hopkins wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 15:30 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> > I've had a lot of problems with X today.  I finally got X back up, but
> > when I went to check MythTV, it didn't work.  I started tracking down
> > the problem.  I went into mythtv-setup and it said that it couldn't find
> > any video inputs, so I examined /dev/v4l/video0.  What I found was
> > really confusing:
> > 
> > camille ~ # ls -l /dev/v4l
> > total 0
> > crw-rw 1 root video 81,  64 Feb 18 09:20 radio0
> > crw-rw 1 root video 81, 224 Feb 18 09:20 vbi0
> > crw-rw 1 root video 81,   0 Feb 18 09:20 video0
> > crw-rw 1 root video 81,  24 Feb 18 09:20 video24
> > crw-rw 1 root video 81,  32 Feb 18 09:20 video32
> > camille ~ # cat /dev/v4l/video0 
> > cat: /dev/v4l/video0: No such device or address
> > 
> > 
> > Is it there, or isn't it?  I don't know if it matters, but when I was
> > trying to fix the X problem, I built and booted with a new kernel:
> 
> This is most likely completely unrelated to your issues with X.  This is
> a problem with your tuner card or its drivers.
> 
> If you compiled a new kernel did you remember to re-compile any
> out-of-tree kernel modules?  Are you sure the tuner drivers have the
> correct (versions of) firmware to load?  Did you check dmesg?
> 
> -a
> 

camille ~ # dmesg
00 TTL=54 ID=8094 PROTO=UDP SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.236.79.150
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=121 ID=27235 PROTO=UDP
SPT=38540 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8097 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8100 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=24.148.134.52
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=115 ID=8596 PROTO=UDP
SPT=9072 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=24.148.134.52
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=115 ID=8620 PROTO=UDP
SPT=9072 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=24.148.134.52
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=115 ID=8649 PROTO=UDP
SPT=9072 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.236.79.150
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=121 ID=27307 PROTO=UDP
SPT=38540 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8112 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8115 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8123 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8128 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8133 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8136 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8140 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8144 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8148 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8149 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=70.83.193.85
DST=192.168.1.3 LEN=51 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=54 ID=8152 PROTO=UDP
SPT=18585 DPT=38185 LEN=31 
IPKF INPUT Catch-all: IN=eth0 OUT=
MAC=00:13:20:2b:98:18:00:0f:66:32:d4:49:08:00 SRC=98.16

[gentoo-user] atheros wifi for gentoo..

[maxim wexler]

Hi group,.too is considerably tougher. Xandros must die! But it has support for 
the wifi, so the linux drivers must be out there. I don't want to start 
dragging around more unnecessary stuff to   get on line at my favo(u)rite cafe.

I would love to hear from someone who managed a gentoo install on a 4G SSHD 
with the onboard Atheros wifi chipset;also the ethernet would be nice, it uses 
the L1e Gigabit chip, another Atheros product.


  

Re: [gentoo-user] Are the video files there, or aren't they?

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:30:31 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:

> Is it there, or isn't it?  I don't know if it matters, but when I was
> trying to fix the X problem, I built and booted with a new kernel:

Did you try going back to the old kernel?


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Top Oxymorons Number 36: Alone together


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Re: [gentoo-user] atheros wifi for gentoo..

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:06:13 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote:

> I would love to hear from someone who managed a gentoo install on a 4G
> SSHD with the onboard Atheros wifi chipset;also the ethernet would be
> nice, it uses the L1e Gigabit chip, another Atheros product.

Use a 2.6.28 kernel and enable ATH5K for wireless and ATL2 for wired.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Parking is such street sorrow.


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MythTV WAS: [Re: [gentoo-user] Are the video files there, or aren't they?]

[Michael Sullivan]

On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 22:15 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:30:31 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> 
> > Is it there, or isn't it?  I don't know if it matters, but when I was
> > trying to fix the X problem, I built and booted with a new kernel:
> 
> Did you try going back to the old kernel?
> 

I went back to the old kernel 

camille ~ # uname -a
Linux camille 2.6.26-gentoo-r4 #1 SMP Sat Dec 13 17:31:25 CST 2008 i686
GNU/Linux


and the video worked, at least from /dev/v4l/video0.  This is a
temporary solution, but now I can't get mythtv to work.  LiveTV won't
work, and it won't show my upcoming programs.  I've verified that mysql
is running:

camille ~ # ps ax | grep mysql
16099 ?Ssl0:52 /usr/sbin/mysqld
--defaults-file=/etc/mysql/my.cnf --basedir=/usr
--datadir=/var/lib/mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid
--socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock


and when I run mythbackend and frontend in a terminal, I get this:

camille ~ # mythbackend
2009-02-18 16:39:56.181 Using runtime prefix = /usr
2009-02-18 16:39:56.183 Empty LocalHostName.
2009-02-18 16:39:56.183 Using localhost value of camille
2009-02-18 16:39:56.204 New DB connection, total: 1
2009-02-18 16:39:56.210 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-02-18 16:39:56.211 Closing DB connection named 'DBManager0'
2009-02-18 16:39:56.212 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-02-18 16:39:56.215 New DB connection, total: 2
2009-02-18 16:39:56.223 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-02-18 16:39:56.228 Current Schema Version: 1214
Starting up as the master server.
2009-02-18 16:39:56.242 mythbackend: MythBackend started as master
server
2009-02-18 16:39:56.253 TVRec(2) Error: Problem finding starting
channel, setting to default of '3'.
2009-02-18 16:39:56.260 ChannelBase(2) Error: InitializeInputs(): 
Could not get inputs for the capturecard.
Perhaps you have forgotten to bind video
sources to your card's inputs?
2009-02-18 16:39:56.262 mythbackend: Problem with capture cards: Card
2failed init
ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.
Perhaps you should read the installation instructions?
2009-02-18 16:39:56.265 mythbackend: No capture cards are defined:
Please run the setup program.
2009-02-18 16:39:56.270 New DB connection, total: 3
2009-02-18 16:39:56.273 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-02-18 16:39:57.570 Main::Registering HttpStatus Extension
2009-02-18 16:39:57.570 mythbackend version: 0.21.20080304-1
www.mythtv.org
2009-02-18 16:39:57.570 Enabled verbose msgs:  important general
2009-02-18 16:39:57.574 AutoExpire: CalcParams(): Max required Free
Space: 0.0 GB w/freq: 15 min
2009-02-18 16:40:06.254 mythbackend: Running housekeeping thread
2009-02-18 16:40:06.333 UPnpMedia: BuildMediaMap VIDEO scan starting
in :/share/Movies/dvd:
2009-02-18 16:40:06.333 UPnpMedia: BuildMediaMap Done. Found 0 objects
2009-02-18 16:40:14.551 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Monitor
2009-02-18 16:40:14.551 adding: camille as a client (events: 0)
2009-02-18 16:40:14.553 MainServer::HandleAnnounce Monitor
2009-02-18 16:40:14.553 adding: camille as a client (events: 1)

mich...@camille ~ $ mythfrontend
2009-02-18 16:40:05.310 Using runtime prefix = /usr
2009-02-18 16:40:06.037 XScreenSaver support enabled
2009-02-18 16:40:06.038 DPMS is active.
2009-02-18 16:40:06.053 Empty LocalHostName.
2009-02-18 16:40:06.053 Using localhost value of camille
2009-02-18 16:40:06.105 New DB connection, total: 1
2009-02-18 16:40:06.110 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-02-18 16:40:06.112 Closing DB connection named 'DBManager0'
2009-02-18 16:40:06.117 Primary screen 0.
2009-02-18 16:40:06.117 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-02-18 16:40:06.119 Using screen 0, 1024x768 at 0,0
2009-02-18 16:40:06.136 New DB connection, total: 2
2009-02-18 16:40:06.136 Connected to database 'mythconverg' at host:
localhost
2009-02-18 16:40:06.141 mythfrontend version: 0.21.20080304-1
www.mythtv.org
2009-02-18 16:40:06.141 Enabled verbose msgs:  important general
2009-02-18 16:40:07.355 No theme
dir: /home/michael/.mythtv/themes/G.A.N.T
2009-02-18 16:40:07.358 Primary screen 0.
2009-02-18 16:40:07.360 Using screen 0, 1024x768 at 0,0
2009-02-18 16:40:07.361 No theme
dir: /home/michael/.mythtv/themes/G.A.N.T
2009-02-18 16:40:07.363 Switching to square mode (G.A.N.T)
2009-02-18 16:40:07.409 Using the Qt painter
mythtv: could not connect to socket
mythtv: No such file or directory
2009-02-18 16:40:07.415 lirc_init failed for mythtv, see preceding
messages
2009-02-18 16:40:07.416 JoystickMenuClient Error: Joystick disabled -
Failed to read /home/michael/.mythtv/joystickmenurc
2009-02-18 16:40:08.835 Loading
from: /usr/share/mythtv/themes/G.A.N.T/base.xml
2009-02-18 16:40:08.977 Loading
from: /usr/share/mythtv/themes/default/base.xml
2009-02-18 16:40:09.155 Re

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

[Beau Henderson]

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:18 AM, James  wrote:

>   podgeweb.com> writes:
>
>
> > > I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing
> my
> > > new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use.
> Right
> > > after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing
> anything
> > > out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and
> sd
> > > and sr drivers in the kernel ).
>
> Ah,
>
> I have had a similar problem a few months ago on one system (AMD 64 X2).
> I never figured it out, but I suspect that rebuilding X, KDE and many
> other utilities over time, fixed it. X seems to use more resources than
> it should. But, in reality, after a while, it just went away. None of the
> other AMD 64 X2 systems I manage, had the problem. The load was always 1.0
> or higher.
>
>
> I think I even posted to this list and we discussed the meaning of "load"
> too.
>
> Here's some good reading on "load average"
>
> http://www.teamquest.com/resources/gunther/display/5/
>
>
>
Hey,

I'm fairly comfortable with the definition of load average, that's not
something I need clarification on, but thanks to all whom have offered.

I'll fire up htop today and see if its able to identify anything that top or
ps hasn't as yet.

I'm relatively certain the issue isn't related to X or gnome as the load
shoots up immediately after boot up and the load issue happens even without
firing up startx.


-- 
Beau Dylan Henderson

"No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves
or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for
whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to
ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this
world is more dangerous than an open mind." -- Matthew Good

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

[Paul Hartman]

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Beau Henderson  wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:18 AM, James  wrote:
>>
>>   podgeweb.com> writes:
>>
>>
>> > > I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing
>> > > my
>> > > new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use.
>> > > Right
>> > > after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing
>> > > anything
>> > > out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb
>> > > and sd
>> > > and sr drivers in the kernel ).
>>
>> Ah,
>>
>> I have had a similar problem a few months ago on one system (AMD 64 X2).
>> I never figured it out, but I suspect that rebuilding X, KDE and many
>> other utilities over time, fixed it. X seems to use more resources than
>> it should. But, in reality, after a while, it just went away. None of the
>> other AMD 64 X2 systems I manage, had the problem. The load was always 1.0
>> or higher.
>>
>>
>> I think I even posted to this list and we discussed the meaning of "load"
>> too.
>>
>> Here's some good reading on "load average"
>>
>> http://www.teamquest.com/resources/gunther/display/5/
>>
>>
>
> Hey,
>
> I'm fairly comfortable with the definition of load average, that's not
> something I need clarification on, but thanks to all whom have offered.
>
> I'll fire up htop today and see if its able to identify anything that top or
> ps hasn't as yet.
>
> I'm relatively certain the issue isn't related to X or gnome as the load
> shoots up immediately after boot up and the load issue happens even without
> firing up startx.

I wonder if the laptop could be going into some low-speed, low-power
mode, causing it to seem "slow" and thus making the load seem
artificially high? (assuming you're using CPU frequency scaling at
all)

Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

[Paul Hartman]

On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson  wrote:
> G'day,
>
> I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new
> Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after
> boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of
> ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb and sd and sr
> drivers in the kernel ).

Here's a thread that may or may not be related:

http://kerneltrap.org/Linux/High_Idle_Load_Average

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

[Beau Henderson]

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:20 AM, Paul Hartman

> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Beau Henderson 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 1:18 AM, James  wrote:
> >>
> >>   podgeweb.com> writes:
> >>
> >>
> >> > > I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is
> causing
> >> > > my
> >> > > new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use.
> >> > > Right
> >> > > after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing
> >> > > anything
> >> > > out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy usb
> >> > > and sd
> >> > > and sr drivers in the kernel ).
> >>
> >> Ah,
> >>
> >> I have had a similar problem a few months ago on one system (AMD 64 X2).
> >> I never figured it out, but I suspect that rebuilding X, KDE and many
> >> other utilities over time, fixed it. X seems to use more resources than
> >> it should. But, in reality, after a while, it just went away. None of
> the
> >> other AMD 64 X2 systems I manage, had the problem. The load was always
> 1.0
> >> or higher.
> >>
> >>
> >> I think I even posted to this list and we discussed the meaning of
> "load"
> >> too.
> >>
> >> Here's some good reading on "load average"
> >>
> >> http://www.teamquest.com/resources/gunther/display/5/
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Hey,
> >
> > I'm fairly comfortable with the definition of load average, that's not
> > something I need clarification on, but thanks to all whom have offered.
> >
> > I'll fire up htop today and see if its able to identify anything that top
> or
> > ps hasn't as yet.
> >
> > I'm relatively certain the issue isn't related to X or gnome as the load
> > shoots up immediately after boot up and the load issue happens even
> without
> > firing up startx.
>
> I wonder if the laptop could be going into some low-speed, low-power
> mode, causing it to seem "slow" and thus making the load seem
> artificially high? (assuming you're using CPU frequency scaling at
> all)
>
>
I've tried manually altering the governor to performance but its the same
story.

The system doesn't appear sluggish, I'm really more concerned that something
is causing the load and this might lead to shorter battery life and and more
heat.

htop doesn't seem to show anything either.

Just for shits n giggles I fired up powertop and implemented its
suggestions. No luck with that either unfortunately. This has me completely
baffled.


-- 
Beau Dylan Henderson

"No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves
or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for
whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to
ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this
world is more dangerous than an open mind." -- Matthew Good

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thursday 19 February 2009 01:38:39 Beau Henderson wrote:
> I've tried manually altering the governor to performance but its the same
> story.
>
> The system doesn't appear sluggish, I'm really more concerned that
> something is causing the load and this might lead to shorter battery life
> and and more heat.

Right in the beginning you said the load was *exactly* 1.00. Now, load is 
defined as 

"the _number_ of processes on average waiting for the cpu in the last 1, 5, 15 
minutes"

So it does not mean that the cpu is necessarily working hard (but usually 
does) if the load is high. Yours is _exactly_ 1.00 (very suspicious)

This is almost certainly one of two things:

1. A stupid kernel config that you should not have done :-)
2. Some app is blocking hard on IO

I guess #2 - something waits for IO, it is not available, so immediately goes 
back to sleep waiting for it's next time slice. This happens many times a 
second and averaged over a minute looks like the cpu is constantly busy. Thus, 
no real extra cpu load is happening, the machine does not appear at all 
sluggish and the only harm is that it is annoying as hell.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

[Beau Henderson]

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> On Thursday 19 February 2009 01:38:39 Beau Henderson wrote:
> > I've tried manually altering the governor to performance but its the same
> > story.
> >
> > The system doesn't appear sluggish, I'm really more concerned that
> > something is causing the load and this might lead to shorter battery life
> > and and more heat.
>
> Right in the beginning you said the load was *exactly* 1.00. Now, load is
> defined as
>
> "the _number_ of processes on average waiting for the cpu in the last 1, 5,
> 15
> minutes"
>
> So it does not mean that the cpu is necessarily working hard (but usually
> does) if the load is high. Yours is _exactly_ 1.00 (very suspicious)
>
> This is almost certainly one of two things:
>
> 1. A stupid kernel config that you should not have done :-)
> 2. Some app is blocking hard on IO
>
> I guess #2 - something waits for IO, it is not available, so immediately
> goes
> back to sleep waiting for it's next time slice. This happens many times a
> second and averaged over a minute looks like the cpu is constantly busy.
> Thus,
> no real extra cpu load is happening, the machine does not appear at all
> sluggish and the only harm is that it is annoying as hell.
>
> --
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
>
>
Woah, now were getting somewhere.

After reading that, I had another look at the top output and noticed that a
single hald process was in D state. /etc/init.d/hald stop and the load is
lowering as I type. I'm going to have to dig into this deeper as time
permits.

Thanks everyone :)

-- 
Beau Dylan Henderson

"No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves
or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for
whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to
ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this
world is more dangerous than an open mind." -- Matthew Good

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

[Beau Henderson]

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Beau Henderson wrote:

>
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 19 February 2009 01:38:39 Beau Henderson wrote:
>> > I've tried manually altering the governor to performance but its the
>> same
>> > story.
>> >
>> > The system doesn't appear sluggish, I'm really more concerned that
>> > something is causing the load and this might lead to shorter battery
>> life
>> > and and more heat.
>>
>> Right in the beginning you said the load was *exactly* 1.00. Now, load is
>> defined as
>>
>> "the _number_ of processes on average waiting for the cpu in the last 1,
>> 5, 15
>> minutes"
>>
>> So it does not mean that the cpu is necessarily working hard (but usually
>> does) if the load is high. Yours is _exactly_ 1.00 (very suspicious)
>>
>> This is almost certainly one of two things:
>>
>> 1. A stupid kernel config that you should not have done :-)
>> 2. Some app is blocking hard on IO
>>
>> I guess #2 - something waits for IO, it is not available, so immediately
>> goes
>> back to sleep waiting for it's next time slice. This happens many times a
>> second and averaged over a minute looks like the cpu is constantly busy.
>> Thus,
>> no real extra cpu load is happening, the machine does not appear at all
>> sluggish and the only harm is that it is annoying as hell.
>>
>> --
>> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>>
>>
>>
> Woah, now were getting somewhere.
>
> After reading that, I had another look at the top output and noticed that a
> single hald process was in D state. /etc/init.d/hald stop and the load is
> lowering as I type. I'm going to have to dig into this deeper as time
> permits.
>
> Thanks everyone :)
>
>
> --
> Beau Dylan Henderson
>
> "No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate
> themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do
> so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance
> to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this
> world is more dangerous than an open mind." -- Matthew Good
>


The culprit: Hals cdrom polling. Interestingly, the load shot down as soon
as I stuck a disk.

The fix: hal-disable-polling --device /dev/scd0 'hal'
-- 
Beau Dylan Henderson

"No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate themselves
or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right to do so, for
whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding of ignorance to
ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat. For nothing in this
world is more dangerous than an open mind." -- Matthew Good

Re: [gentoo-user] atheros wifi for gentoo..

[daid kahl]

2009/2/19 Neil Bothwick 

> On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:06:13 -0800 (PST), maxim wexler wrote:
>
> > I would love to hear from someone who managed a gentoo install on a 4G
> > SSHD with the onboard Atheros wifi chipset;also the ethernet would be
> > nice, it uses the L1e Gigabit chip, another Atheros product.
>
> Use a 2.6.28 kernel and enable ATH5K for wireless and ATL2 for wired.
>
>
> I'm using a 2.6.26 kernel without ATH5K enabled for an Atheros wireless LAN
card.

I'm using madwifi drivers straight from the madwifi project, and you can see
my simple instructions for installation at
http://forum.sabayonlinux.org/viewtopic.php?f=52&t=14920

This may not be as good a suggestion as the former, so I don't post it in
contradiction, but just as extra information.  My method works with kernels
at least as old at 2.6.20

~daid

Re: [gentoo-user] atheros wifi for gentoo..

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 09:55:29 +0900, daid kahl wrote:

> > Use a 2.6.28 kernel and enable ATH5K for wireless and ATL2 for wired.

> This may not be as good a suggestion as the former, so I don't post it
> in contradiction, but just as extra information.  My method works with
> kernels at least as old at 2.6.20

ATH5K has been in the kernel for a little while,the reason for using
2.6.28 is that it also supports the wired NIC. With the addition of the
eee ACPI modules, I can now run with no third party modules on my Eee.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Bus: (n.) a connector you plug money into, something like a slot machine.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

[Dale]

Beau Henderson wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:04 AM, Beau Henderson
> mailto:b...@thehenderson.com>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 9:53 AM, Alan McKinnon
> mailto:alan.mckin...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> On Thursday 19 February 2009 01:38:39 Beau Henderson wrote:
> > I've tried manually altering the governor to performance but
> its the same
> > story.
> >
> > The system doesn't appear sluggish, I'm really more
> concerned that
> > something is causing the load and this might lead to shorter
> battery life
> > and and more heat.
>
> Right in the beginning you said the load was *exactly* 1.00.
> Now, load is
> defined as
>
> "the _number_ of processes on average waiting for the cpu in
> the last 1, 5, 15
> minutes"
>
> So it does not mean that the cpu is necessarily working hard
> (but usually
> does) if the load is high. Yours is _exactly_ 1.00 (very
> suspicious)
>
> This is almost certainly one of two things:
>
> 1. A stupid kernel config that you should not have done :-)
> 2. Some app is blocking hard on IO
>
> I guess #2 - something waits for IO, it is not available, so
> immediately goes
> back to sleep waiting for it's next time slice. This happens
> many times a
> second and averaged over a minute looks like the cpu is
> constantly busy. Thus,
> no real extra cpu load is happening, the machine does not
> appear at all
> sluggish and the only harm is that it is annoying as hell.
>
> --
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
>
>
>
> Woah, now were getting somewhere.
>
> After reading that, I had another look at the top output and
> noticed that a single hald process was in D state.
> /etc/init.d/hald stop and the load is lowering as I type. I'm
> going to have to dig into this deeper as time permits.
>
> Thanks everyone :)
>
>
> -- 
> Beau Dylan Henderson
>
> "No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate
> themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the
> right to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the
> safeguarding of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not
> become a threat. For nothing in this world is more dangerous than
> an open mind." -- Matthew Good
>
>
>
> The culprit: Hals cdrom polling. Interestingly, the load shot down as
> soon as I stuck a disk.
>
> The fix: hal-disable-polling --device /dev/scd0 'hal'
> -- 
> Beau Dylan Henderson
>
> "No human being should be denied the fundamental right to educate
> themselves or indulge their curiosities. To deny any person the right
> to do so, for whatever reason, is nothing more than the safeguarding
> of ignorance to ensure that enlightenment does not become a threat.
> For nothing in this world is more dangerous than an open mind." --
> Matthew Good


I would never have guessed this was your problem but I had the same
thing happen on my DESKTOP puter a while back.  I hit the eject button,
closed the tray again, restarted hald and it went back to normal.  I
also had a TON of errors in messages too.  I have cron set up to rotate
messages so I may not have those now.

This may be a different cause but does make one wonder.  Also, it hasn't
done it since. 

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] wicd start failed

[Chuanwen Wu]

>
> It looks like the dependencies are wrong,have you filed a bug?
Not yet, do you mean in bugzilla?

-- 
wcw

[gentoo-user] Re: Scanner sharing with HPLIP?

[Grant]

>> Here is a method for sharing a scanner over a network with
>> sane-backends and inetd:
>>
>> http://www.linux.com/articles/57798
>>
>> My prospective printer/scanner (HP c4599) is not listed in the SANE
>> compatible devices:
>>
>> http://www.sane-project.org/sane-mfgs.html#Z-HEWLETT-PACKARD
>>
>> It is listed in HPLIP, but the network feature is apparently not
>> working (Network I/O):
>>
>> http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/photosmart/photosmart_c4500_series.html
>>
>> Can I share the scanner over the network without SANE support since it
>> has HPLIP support?
>>
>> - Grant
>
> I'm going to get the Epson Artisan 700 instead of the HP so I'm
> wondering about using media-gfx/iscan instead of HPLIP and how that
> will work for network sharing of the scanner.
>
> - Grant

Epson Artisan 700 printing and scanning with
net-print/gutenprint-5.2.3 from the alexxy overlay and media-gfx/iscan
from portage renamed to 2.16.1.

- Grant

Re: MythTV WAS: [Re: [gentoo-user] Are the video files there, or aren't they?]

[Stroller]

On 18 Feb 2009, at 22:41, Michael Sullivan wrote:


On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 22:15 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:30:31 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:

Is it there, or isn't it?  I don't know if it matters, but when I  
was

trying to fix the X problem, I built and booted with a new kernel:


Did you try going back to the old kernel?


I went back to the old kernel

camille ~ # uname -a
Linux camille 2.6.26-gentoo-r4 #1 SMP Sat Dec 13 17:31:25 CST 2008  
i686

GNU/Linux


and the video worked, at least from /dev/v4l/video0.  This is a
temporary solution, but now I can't get mythtv to work.  LiveTV won't
work, and it won't show my upcoming programs.  I've verified that  
mysql

is running:

...
and when I run mythbackend and frontend in a terminal, I get this:
...
ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.


Is it possible that, when you booted with the new kernel & no cards  
were found they were removed from MythTV's database?


I have never used MythTV, but maybe - under the old kernel - you can  
add them back in using MythTV's setup and they'll work again?


This doesn't help why the cards are not shown under the new kernel,  
but if you are easily able to add them in then it would demonstrate  
that your hardware is OK & perhaps inspire confidence.


Stroller.

Re: MythTV WAS: [Re: [gentoo-user] Are the video files there, or aren't they?] [SOLVED sort of]

[Michael Sullivan]

On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 04:42 +, Stroller wrote:
> On 18 Feb 2009, at 22:41, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 22:15 +, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >> On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 15:30:31 -0600, Michael Sullivan wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is it there, or isn't it?  I don't know if it matters, but when I  
> >>> was
> >>> trying to fix the X problem, I built and booted with a new kernel:
> >>
> >> Did you try going back to the old kernel?
> >
> > I went back to the old kernel
> >
> > camille ~ # uname -a
> > Linux camille 2.6.26-gentoo-r4 #1 SMP Sat Dec 13 17:31:25 CST 2008  
> > i686
> > GNU/Linux
> >
> >
> > and the video worked, at least from /dev/v4l/video0.  This is a
> > temporary solution, but now I can't get mythtv to work.  LiveTV won't
> > work, and it won't show my upcoming programs.  I've verified that  
> > mysql
> > is running:
> >
> > ...
> > and when I run mythbackend and frontend in a terminal, I get this:
> > ...
> > ERROR: no valid capture cards are defined in the database.
> 
> Is it possible that, when you booted with the new kernel & no cards  
> were found they were removed from MythTV's database?
> 
> I have never used MythTV, but maybe - under the old kernel - you can  
> add them back in using MythTV's setup and they'll work again?
> 
> This doesn't help why the cards are not shown under the new kernel,  
> but if you are easily able to add them in then it would demonstrate  
> that your hardware is OK & perhaps inspire confidence.
> 
> Stroller.

I got Myth to work with the 2.6.26-r4 kernel, but I don't plan on using this 
kernel forever.  Is there any way I can find out what modules are being loaded 
with this kernel that aren't being loaded with the new one?