Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Dell XPS16 for Christmas?
On Sunday 15 November 2009 19:39:40 Mick wrote: I have been thinking of buying this laptop and was looking at the Gentoo Wiki which shows relatively good hardware compatibility, except for the radeon card which is now an older offering: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Dell_Studio_XPS_16 The current spec on the UK Dell website shows 1GB ATI® Radeon™ HD 4670 (see below). PROCESSOR:Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 720QM (1.60Ghz, 6MB cache) LCD: Black Leather back cover : 15.6 (inch) Truelife 1080p Full HD WLED Edge to Edge Display MEMORY: 4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2x2048] HARD DRIVE: 500GB (7,200rpm) Free Fall Sensor Hard Drive PRIMARY BATTERY: 9-cell 85Whr Lithium Ion battery OPTICAL DRIVE:Internal Blu-Ray ROM (Blu-Ray read, DVD and CD read Write) Optical Drive GRAPHICS CARD:1GB ATI® Radeon™ HD 4670 graphics card WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY:Dell Wireless 1397 Mini Card (802.11 b/g) BLUETOOTH:Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth Module According to these links the RadeonHD driver is experimental: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeon http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd%3Aexperimental_3D Does anyone have experience with this driver, or better yet, this laptop? Shall I buy or shall I shy away from it? Most Dell-laptops actually work quite nicely with Linux, however, be aware that DELL has issues with the harddrives they supply. I've seen 6 different recent DELL-laptops with crashed harddrives in the past 1.5 years. These laptops were handled carefully. Response from Dell was: Sorry, we shipped a wrong batch I would suggest frequent backups of important files and/or the harddrive swapped for a more reliable model. -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge hints needed
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Bill Kenworthy wrote: Some time back I saw someone mention a way to get emerge to install an ebuild with a bad digest - man emerge shows nothing so can someone give me a hint. It was much easier than going down the ebuild path. I think it is --digest. I don't see it in the man page so you may have to do that with the ebuild command and the manifest option. See man page to make sure. I will also add, you should not do this unless it passed the first test and you had to edit the file for some reason. It could be corrupt or altered in some unknown way otherwise. ebuild path-to-ebuild --digest Also, I am in the process of rescuing a system from the e2fs/util-linux/device-mapper snafu and find that now I have it booted re-emerging util-linux wont overwrite the files I manually installed to replace the missing ones - necessitating manually rm'ing some 50 or so files - is there a way to force emerge to ignore file collisions and just overwrite them in this circumstance? BillK I think you are looking for this option with emerge: --noconfmem Causes portage to disregard merge records indicating that a config file inside of a CONFIG_PRO- TECT directory has been merged already. Portage will normally merge those files only once to prevent the user from dealing with the same config multiple times. This flag will cause the file to always be merged. Keep in mind that it will replace whatever it emerges which may include dependencies. I have never used that option before so be forewarned if it does. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools
Hi, there are two utilities on (my) Gentoo system and I wonder when to prefer which one. On one hand there is 'equery' with many commands. On the other hand there the 'q-tools' i.e. a lot of symlinks to /usr/bin/q like qfile qdepends quse and so on. Often they offer similar tasks. I wonder when to use which one. Which is faster, more reliable, ... Many thanks for sharing your experience, Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo on ssds? intel anyone?
Holger Hoffstaette wrote: After 5 minutes you will fight anyone who would try to take it away again to the death. Seconded. I moved a normal HD install to a 160GB G2, and, well, you just don't imagine how much your day-to-day work is IO bound. -- Remy signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge hints needed
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:21:02 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: Also, I am in the process of rescuing a system from the e2fs/util-linux/device-mapper snafu and find that now I have it booted re-emerging util-linux wont overwrite the files I manually installed to replace the missing ones - necessitating manually rm'ing some 50 or so files - is there a way to force emerge to ignore file collisions and just overwrite them in this circumstance? FEATURES=-collision-protect emerge -1 util-linux See man make.conf for more on FEATURES. -- Neil Bothwick If a program is useless, it must be documented. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] where can I find USE flags description?
Jarry wrote: Hi, I want to emerge a certain package, let's say x11-base/xorg-drivers, so I try first emerge --pretend xorg-drivers and find it has ~50 various use-flags (some set, some unset). Where can I find their description? For example vmmouse, what is this USE flag good for? Is it something for vmware? I checked /etc/portage/profiles/use.desc and use.local.desc but there are not all of them... Jarry Maybe you want to try this little peace of code: alias findflag=flagedit --desc --list | grep -i Works really great. If you search for a pattern, just findflag foo. If you search for a specific use-flag you just add : at the end, like findflag bar: Don't forget to install flagedit first, if you haven't already.
Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo on ssds? intel anyone?
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: since ssds don't like write/erase cycles you should only put your system on the ssd. Everything else, PORTDIR, PKGDIR, /var, /tmp, /usr/tmp and /usr/src should be on a harddisk. Thanks for the hint ...
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Dell XPS16 for Christmas?
2009/11/20 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Sunday 15 November 2009 19:39:40 Mick wrote: I have been thinking of buying this laptop and was looking at the Gentoo Wiki which shows relatively good hardware compatibility, except for the radeon card which is now an older offering: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Dell_Studio_XPS_16 The current spec on the UK Dell website shows 1GB ATI® Radeon™ HD 4670 (see below). PROCESSOR: Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 720QM (1.60Ghz, 6MB cache) LCD: Black Leather back cover : 15.6 (inch) Truelife 1080p Full HD WLED Edge to Edge Display MEMORY: 4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2x2048] HARD DRIVE: 500GB (7,200rpm) Free Fall Sensor Hard Drive PRIMARY BATTERY: 9-cell 85Whr Lithium Ion battery OPTICAL DRIVE: Internal Blu-Ray ROM (Blu-Ray read, DVD and CD read Write) Optical Drive GRAPHICS CARD: 1GB ATI® Radeon™ HD 4670 graphics card WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY: Dell Wireless 1397 Mini Card (802.11 b/g) BLUETOOTH: Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth Module According to these links the RadeonHD driver is experimental: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeon http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd%3Aexperimental_3D Does anyone have experience with this driver, or better yet, this laptop? Shall I buy or shall I shy away from it? Most Dell-laptops actually work quite nicely with Linux, however, be aware that DELL has issues with the harddrives they supply. I've seen 6 different recent DELL-laptops with crashed harddrives in the past 1.5 years. These laptops were handled carefully. Response from Dell was: Sorry, we shipped a wrong batch I would suggest frequent backups of important files and/or the harddrive swapped for a more reliable model. Thanks guys - the hard drive story sounds scary! Was there a particular batch of a particular hard drive manufacturer that was suspect here? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd
José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote: BTW: this may be caused by the fact that you did not simply add debug=2 but at the same time removed -V. I have run the cdrecord command again, this time passing -V and debug=2: $ script -f -c cdrecord -vvv -V debug=2 -sao -eject speed=8 fs=256m driveropts=burnfree /var/tmp/image.iso cdrecord.log and the compressed log is attached. I hope you can find anything useful to understand what is happening. I'll look at this later. Could you meanwhile do a test without -V please? There was a report for broken Pioneer formware that hits in -v mode and causes the firmware from the drive to through away the data before writing it to the medium. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 01:36:27PM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote: José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote: BTW: this may be caused by the fact that you did not simply add debug=2 but at the same time removed -V. I have run the cdrecord command again, this time passing -V and debug=2: $ script -f -c cdrecord -vvv -V debug=2 -sao -eject speed=8 fs=256m driveropts=burnfree /var/tmp/image.iso cdrecord.log and the compressed log is attached. I hope you can find anything useful to understand what is happening. I'll look at this later. Could you meanwhile do a test without -V please? There was a report for broken Pioneer formware that hits in -v mode and causes the firmware from the drive to through away the data before writing it to the medium. Do you mean a test without -V or -v ? Romildo
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd
joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (Joerg Schilling) wrote: José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote: BTW: this may be caused by the fact that you did not simply add debug=2 but at the same time removed -V. I have run the cdrecord command again, this time passing -V and debug=2: $ script -f -c cdrecord -vvv -V debug=2 -sao -eject speed=8 fs=256m driveropts=burnfree /var/tmp/image.iso cdrecord.log and the compressed log is attached. I hope you can find anything useful to understand what is happening. I'll look at this later. Could you meanwhile do a test without -V please? Sorry - I mean wihtout -v With -v, crecord calls read buffer cap and this may cause a firmware bug in your drive. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
[gentoo-user] Troubles with kde4
Hi all, finally I decided to upgrade from kde3 to kde4. All went well, but: 1 - I am not able to fix the frequency of the display, neither using nvidia-settings nor throught System-settings-Dislplay. Every time a session starts I have to set it again (and this both as root and as user); As user only and at the start of every session: 2 - I have to resize the dimension of the Panel; 3 - I have to enable the Compositing (desktop effects) further 4 - I cannot mount a partition (both from command line and from desktop) the answer is Only root can mount a device (all permissions are the same as before) 5 - I am not able to become root (both in konsole and term) the answer is Authentication failed (consolekit is merged) Thank you in advance. emilio
[gentoo-user] Re: gentoo on ssds? intel anyone?
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerarmin at googlemail.com writes: since ssds don't like write/erase cycles you should only put your system on the ssd. Everything else, PORTDIR, PKGDIR, /var, /tmp, /usr/tmp and /usr/src should be on a harddisk. I'd be curious to see a complete fstab with an SSD; anyone? James
Re: [gentoo-user] [the end] icons missing in k3b
David W Noon a gentiment tapote: On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:00:03 +0100, Jacques Montier wrote about [gentoo-user] [the end] icons missing in k3b: Hi everybody, Some news about k3b and its missing icons. I looked at your useflags and changed mine. So i had to re-build plenty of packages and spent a very long compiling time with my 8 year-old pc... Well, after that,...nothing has changed.. :-( http://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/telechargement/k3b.jpg?attredirects=0 This looks like your XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable might be missing a directory or two. No amount of recompiling will cure that. Instead, you need to look in the /etc/env.d directory, correct any errors, then logout and login. Here's mine: /usr/local/share:/usr/share:/usr/kde/3.5/share:/usr/share/gdm:/usr/share The duplication of /usr/share is, at this point in time, quite deliberate. It works around a problem in GNOME. Never mind, the problem is not very important, so i stop here and will use xfburn if i want all my icons :-) As i work with Xfce4, i think i'll put all kde stuff away. I use Brasero as a burner for GNOME and Xfce. It's actually rather good, almost on par with K3b. Thank you David, Mine is /usr/local/share:/usr/share:/usr/share/gdm:/usr/share So i tried to add XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/kde4/ in /etc/env.d/43kdepaths. But no success, log out then in does not change anything. -- Jacques
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd
José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote: There was a report for broken Pioneer formware that hits in -v mode and causes the firmware from the drive to through away the data before writing it to the medium. Do you mean a test without -V or -v ? Without -v, as in this case cdrecord does not read the drives buffer fill ratio. It seems that there is a bug in Pioneer firmware that is triggered by calling SCSI get buffer cap (0x5C)and that results in throwing away the DMA data. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] interrupting runscripts during startup
My interest is foremost trivial. Not necessarily related to the application of such interrupts. Nevertheless, with regards to the post: * runscripts can (and AFAIK do) trap and handle SIGINT. * the interactive mode is ok for interrupting the init process between scripts. But I can't interrupt a script while it's running with 'I', and with SIGINT, I can. Amit Renat Golubchyk wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:02:47 +0200 Amit Dor-Shifer ami...@oversi.com wrote: When hitting Ctrl-C during startup, I manage to interrupt services at the early stages of init, yet later-on I can no-longer do this. It seems that up till runlevel 'default', services can be hit with the interrupt. Why do you want to stop services by hitting CTRL-C ? Services are shell scripts. Hitting CTRL-C stops the script somewhere in the middle during its execution. Everything that was done until that moment won't be automagically undone. There can be files left , and processes already started will still run. That's not clean. Better use the interactive init feature. Just hit 'I' when init starts (init even tells you, that you can do it) and choose which services to start by hitting 'y' and 'n'. Cheers, Renat
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system
4. Should I be comfortable running the entire sync operation every night, or am I jeopardizing the longevity of my HDs? This is a joke. I should apologize and explain this better. If you bought a fancy expensive hard drive then it's probably designed for extremely heavy use and comes with nice coverage by the guy that sold it to you. But since you ask this question I'll assume that it's not the case. Ok so you bought a relatively cheap heard drive. But the question seems irrelevant. Because these are cheap, mass-produced hard drives you could do absolutely nothing with them and they could still die tomorrow. That's the price you pay for cheaper drives. Cheap hard drives are like life. Life is cheap. You could take all kinds of precautions and still die tomorrow. But your drive is cheap and easily replaced (esp. if it's still under warranty). Your data on the other hand is not. I'd rather have a dead drive with the data backed up than a dead drive with no backup. Drives are so cheap nowadays it's a non-issue. I'm actually hoping my 2-year old drive dies soon because it will give me an excuse to go out and buy a *bigger* one for the same price. But I feel comfortable with that because I keep backups. Thank you for the clarification. Which are the fancy expensive hard drives? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system
2. Some of the files I back up only allow root to read. I can run rsync as root on each system, but I don't allow root logins. This means in order to rsync the second sync system with the first sync system, I must run the rsync command from the first sync system. This means I have to run rsyncd on the second sync system in addition to the first sync system. I'd rather only run one instance of rsyncd. Can anyone think of another option? Allow root logins only with a key, set up a specific user on the backup server to run the backup tasks and add that users key to the authorized_users file on the machine to be backed up. 3. The rsync process always completes with rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred. How can I get more information about which files this pertains to? Run rsync with the verbose option and direct stdout and stderr to files. 5. If I end up with filesystem corruption on the SRC system, will that corruption transfer over to the DST system during an rsync, or will the transfer just fail? If data is corrupted, that will be backed up. If the filesystem corruption causes read errors, rsync will bail out. 6. Can I run rsyncd on a system facing the internet without fear? Yes, as long as the rsync ports are closed in your router. Instead of all this, I'd recommend BackupPC. It handles all of your issues and more and is efficient at backing up multiple machines. You could run one BackupPC server and then rsync its store to the backup backup server. The latest version in portage is old, get the 3.x ebuild from bgo. How is BackupPC to set up? Is it a whole new world to explore, or can it be set up quickly and easily? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Quick quesition regarding linux-2.6.31.x and gentoo-sources-2.6.31-rx
On 11/19/2009 4:10 PM, Eray Aslan wrote: On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 03:49:19PM -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote: I was just wondering if a package such as gentoo-sources-2.6.31-r6 uses kernel 2.6.31.6, or just 2.6.31. I have been digging through timestamps and the like for a while, but I just can't figure it out. http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/linux-patches/genpatches-2.6/tags/ Ok, so gentoo-sources-2.6.31-r6 uses the 2.6.31 tarball (I'm assuming to save downloading most of it again), but includes the patches to change that version to 2.6.31.6. Thank you. Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Quick quesition regarding linux-2.6.31.x and gentoo-sources-2.6.31-rx
On 11/19/2009 6:22 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 11/19/2009 10:49 PM, Marcus Wanner wrote: I was just wondering if a package such as gentoo-sources-2.6.31-r6 uses kernel 2.6.31.6, or just 2.6.31. I have been digging through timestamps and the like for a while, but I just can't figure it out. In addition to the link Eray posted, you can also always check /usr/portage/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/ChangeLog Thank you for that tip! Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] interrupting runscripts during startup
On 11/19/2009 6:45 PM, Renat Golubchyk wrote: Better use the interactive init feature. Just hit 'I' when init starts (init even tells you, that you can do it) and choose which services to start by hitting 'y' and 'n' (actually 1, 2, 3, and 4) Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] Troubles with kde4
On 11/20/2009 8:52 AM, econti wrote: Hi all, finally I decided to upgrade from kde3 to kde4. All went well, but: 1 - I am not able to fix the frequency of the display, neither using nvidia-settings nor throught System-settings-Dislplay. Every time a session starts I have to set it again (and this both as root and as user); As user only and at the start of every session: 2 - I have to resize the dimension of the Panel; 3 - I have to enable the Compositing (desktop effects) Sounds like config files are not being written correctly. I would look at all of the .* folders in your home directory and see if they are all writable by you. This was likely caused by you trying out startx while in a root non-login terminal, which used su to get into. I did this once with firefox, and it caused it to fail silently when I tried to start it. further 4 - I cannot mount a partition (both from command line and from desktop) the answer is Only root can mount a device (all permissions are the same as before) I would check out groups username and see whether you are a member of the plugdev group. 5 - I am not able to become root (both in konsole and term) the answer is Authentication failed (consolekit is merged) Wheel group for this one. Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools
On 11/20/2009 4:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, there are two utilities on (my) Gentoo system and I wonder when to prefer which one. On one hand there is 'equery' with many commands. On the other hand there the 'q-tools' i.e. a lot of symlinks to /usr/bin/q like qfile qdepends quse and so on. Often they offer similar tasks. I wonder when to use which one. Which is faster, more reliable, ... Many thanks for sharing your experience, Helmut. I would personally prefer equery, as it is in gentoolkit, an official gentoo project, and because is more standard. To tell the truth, though, I have never even heard of q-tools... Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Dell XPS16 for Christmas?
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/20 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Sunday 15 November 2009 19:39:40 Mick wrote: I have been thinking of buying this laptop and was looking at the Gentoo Wiki which shows relatively good hardware compatibility, except for the radeon card which is now an older offering: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Dell_Studio_XPS_16 The current spec on the UK Dell website shows 1GB ATI® Radeon™ HD 4670 (see below). PROCESSOR:Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 720QM (1.60Ghz, 6MB cache) LCD: Black Leather back cover : 15.6 (inch) Truelife 1080p Full HD WLED Edge to Edge Display MEMORY: 4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2x2048] HARD DRIVE: 500GB (7,200rpm) Free Fall Sensor Hard Drive PRIMARY BATTERY: 9-cell 85Whr Lithium Ion battery OPTICAL DRIVE:Internal Blu-Ray ROM (Blu-Ray read, DVD and CD read Write) Optical Drive GRAPHICS CARD:1GB ATI® Radeon™ HD 4670 graphics card WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY:Dell Wireless 1397 Mini Card (802.11 b/g) BLUETOOTH:Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth Module According to these links the RadeonHD driver is experimental: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeon http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd%3Aexperimental_3D Does anyone have experience with this driver, or better yet, this laptop? Shall I buy or shall I shy away from it? Most Dell-laptops actually work quite nicely with Linux, however, be aware that DELL has issues with the harddrives they supply. I've seen 6 different recent DELL-laptops with crashed harddrives in the past 1.5 years. These laptops were handled carefully. Response from Dell was: Sorry, we shipped a wrong batch I would suggest frequent backups of important files and/or the harddrive swapped for a more reliable model. Thanks guys - the hard drive story sounds scary! Was there a particular batch of a particular hard drive manufacturer that was suspect here? I think you could mention any brand of hard drive and people would have horror stories about it. Hard drives are like airplanes; they tend to fail spectacularly. The good news is that if you had to choose one part of a laptop to go bad, the hard drive would probably be the easiest piece to replace (or maybe RAM). Certainly better than a trend of failing display panels! I've owned a couple Dell computers personally and overseen dozens of them at work and they are generally good value and perform without issues. Their business division's customer service (at least a few years ago) was pretty good, they would send someone to our office the next morning to fix the problem. Dell Home, on the other hand, at least in the US, seems to outsource most (all?) of their email/chat/phone support overseas to non-native English-speakers and if you've got a question or request that's not on their script, save yourself the headache and don't even bother asking them for it. Anything they tell you is just the same info you can read on the Dell support website, assuming you can break through the language barrier enough for them to understand what you're asking in the first place. And if you bought a Dell product from a store and not from Dell directly, forget it. You don't exist if you don't have a Dell order number. That being said, the XPS 16 looks like a good value to me (based on the US pricing), and a pretty sweet laptop especially with the blu-ray and WLED display. And AFAIK is one of the only laptops on the market today available with an RGBLED display (at least in the US, $175 extra for the privilege). I would also check out the Asus G51J-A1 which is a similar set-up to the Dell. It seems to be a good package for the price too.
Re: [gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools
On 20 Nov, Marcus Wanner wrote: On 11/20/2009 4:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, there are two utilities on (my) Gentoo system and I wonder when to prefer which one. On one hand there is 'equery' with many commands. On the other hand there the 'q-tools' i.e. a lot of symlinks to /usr/bin/q like qfile qdepends quse and so on. Often they offer similar tasks. I wonder when to use which one. Which is faster, more reliable, ... Many thanks for sharing your experience, Helmut. I would personally prefer equery, as it is in gentoolkit, an official gentoo project, and because is more standard. To tell the truth, though, I have never even heard of q-tools... No wonder, it's just my personal nickname for it. The official name is app-portage/portage-util Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen, Germany
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 19:19, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: BackupPC does look pretty good. Would anyone recommend I *don't* can this whole thing and set up BackupPC instead? I recommend you take a look at rsnapshot instead of pure rsync. Ward
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 08:03 -0800, Grant wrote: Thank you for the clarification. Which are the fancy expensive hard drives? The SAS drives that run at 15k RPM and cost $2-3 USD per GB. As opposed to your run of the mill 7200RPM SATA drive that costs pennies per GB.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Dell XPS16 for Christmas?
On Friday 20 November 2009 17:43:20 Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 6:16 AM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/11/20 J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org: On Sunday 15 November 2009 19:39:40 Mick wrote: I have been thinking of buying this laptop and was looking at the Gentoo Wiki which shows relatively good hardware compatibility, except for the radeon card which is now an older offering: http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Dell_Studio_XPS_16 The current spec on the UK Dell website shows 1GB ATI® Radeon™ HD 4670 (see below). PROCESSOR:Intel® Core™ i7 Processor 720QM (1.60Ghz, 6MB cache) LCD: Black Leather back cover : 15.6 (inch) Truelife 1080p Full HD WLED Edge to Edge Display MEMORY: 4096MB 1333MHz Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM [2x2048] HARD DRIVE: 500GB (7,200rpm) Free Fall Sensor Hard Drive PRIMARY BATTERY: 9-cell 85Whr Lithium Ion battery OPTICAL DRIVE:Internal Blu-Ray ROM (Blu-Ray read, DVD and CD read Write) Optical Drive GRAPHICS CARD:1GB ATI® Radeon™ HD 4670 graphics card WIRELESS CONNECTIVITY:Dell Wireless 1397 Mini Card (802.11 b/g) BLUETOOTH:Dell Wireless 370 Bluetooth Module According to these links the RadeonHD driver is experimental: http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeon http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd%3Aexperimental_3D Does anyone have experience with this driver, or better yet, this laptop? Shall I buy or shall I shy away from it? Most Dell-laptops actually work quite nicely with Linux, however, be aware that DELL has issues with the harddrives they supply. I've seen 6 different recent DELL-laptops with crashed harddrives in the past 1.5 years. These laptops were handled carefully. Response from Dell was: Sorry, we shipped a wrong batch I would suggest frequent backups of important files and/or the harddrive swapped for a more reliable model. Thanks guys - the hard drive story sounds scary! Was there a particular batch of a particular hard drive manufacturer that was suspect here? I think you could mention any brand of hard drive and people would have horror stories about it. Hard drives are like airplanes; they tend to fail spectacularly. The good news is that if you had to choose one part of a laptop to go bad, the hard drive would probably be the easiest piece to replace (or maybe RAM). Certainly better than a trend of failing display panels! In this case they were Seagates, but as mentioned, all manufacturers make mistakes. The last Dell that had a crashed harddrive (after 3 months of use, 2 weeks ago) had a Seagate - ST9160823ASG. I've owned a couple Dell computers personally and overseen dozens of them at work and they are generally good value and perform without issues. Their business division's customer service (at least a few years ago) was pretty good, they would send someone to our office the next morning to fix the problem. These were for a business customer (A big one) and all Dell offered was sending replacement drives to the seperate users' homes or their nearest offices. I would also check out the Asus G51J-A1 which is a similar set-up to the Dell. It seems to be a good package for the price too. Getting into the preferences of brands here, so I will refrain from commenting. One thing to still keep in mind, Asus does not really care about Linux users either. Is there a decent laptop-brand that actually does? -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo on ssds? intel anyone?
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 8:38 AM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerarmin at googlemail.com writes: since ssds don't like write/erase cycles you should only put your system on the ssd. Everything else, PORTDIR, PKGDIR, /var, /tmp, /usr/tmp and /usr/src should be on a harddisk. I'd be curious to see a complete fstab with an SSD; anyone? This page lists some, I have no idea if they are good suggestions or not: http://www.mydellmini.com/forum/dell-mini-9-hardware-upgrades/6741-tips-tweaking-solid-state-drive-performance-linux.html
Re: [gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools
On 11/20/2009 11:56 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 20 Nov, Marcus Wanner wrote: On 11/20/2009 4:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, there are two utilities on (my) Gentoo system and I wonder when to prefer which one. On one hand there is 'equery' with many commands. On the other hand there the 'q-tools' i.e. a lot of symlinks to /usr/bin/q like qfile qdepends quse and so on. Often they offer similar tasks. I wonder when to use which one. Which is faster, more reliable, ... Many thanks for sharing your experience, Helmut. I would personally prefer equery, as it is in gentoolkit, an official gentoo project, and because is more standard. To tell the truth, though, I have never even heard of q-tools... No wonder, it's just my personal nickname for it. The official name is app-portage/portage-util Helmut. Ah. Then I can't really give you any recommendation besides the fact that gentoolkit seems to be what most people use, and there is certainly something to be said for using the most popular programs since there will be faster support and bugfixes. Or course, that is a valid decision criteria only when there is no other reason to choose a specific option (there would be no such thing as the linux or even gentoo user base otherwise). Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools
Marcus Wanner wrote: On 11/20/2009 4:00 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: Hi, there are two utilities on (my) Gentoo system and I wonder when to prefer which one. On one hand there is 'equery' with many commands. On the other hand there the 'q-tools' i.e. a lot of symlinks to /usr/bin/q like qfile qdepends quse and so on. Often they offer similar tasks. I wonder when to use which one. Which is faster, more reliable, ... Many thanks for sharing your experience, Helmut. I would personally prefer equery, as it is in gentoolkit, an official gentoo project, and because is more standard. To tell the truth, though, I have never even heard of q-tools... Marcus But as I have seen and read about, equery is not always correct. It is handy but you need to take its results with a little salt. That said, I use it a lot. just have to use the old noodle still. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] where can I find USE flags description?
On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:05, Johannes Kimmel wrote: Jarry wrote: Hi, I want to emerge a certain package, let's say x11-base/xorg-drivers, so I try first emerge --pretend xorg-drivers and find it has ~50 various use-flags (some set, some unset). Where can I find their description? For example vmmouse, what is this USE flag good for? Is it something for vmware? I checked /etc/portage/profiles/use.desc and use.local.desc but there are not all of them... Jarry Maybe you want to try this little peace of code: alias findflag=flagedit --desc --list | grep -i Works really great. If you search for a pattern, just findflag foo. If you search for a specific use-flag you just add : at the end, like findflag bar: Don't forget to install flagedit first, if you haven't already. Surely this is just a re-implementation of the existing app-portage/ euses? $ euses foo foomaticdb - Adds support for the foomatic printing driver database $ Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Troubles with kde4
cut further 4 - I cannot mount a partition (both from command line and from desktop) the answer is Only root can mount a device (all permissions are the same as before) I would check out groups username and see whether you are a member of the plugdev group. 5 - I am not able to become root (both in konsole and term) the answer is Authentication failed (consolekit is merged) Wheel group for this one. Marcus This was the first thing I did. Remeber, we are talking about a kde upgrade, so groups, permissions, etc should not be changed. emilio
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Dell XPS16 for Christmas?
On 20 Nov 2009, at 17:33, J. Roeleveld wrote: ... I've owned a couple Dell computers personally and overseen dozens of them at work and they are generally good value and perform without issues. Their business division's customer service (at least a few years ago) was pretty good, they would send someone to our office the next morning to fix the problem. These were for a business customer (A big one) and all Dell offered was sending replacement drives to the seperate users' homes or their nearest offices. Dell offer different service levels to their business customers. One site of mine has just the bronze - I assume this is an upgrade over the basic, because even though they offer silver gold, the bronze gets someone on site the next day to fit the replacement parts. From the EXCELLENT service the one time we've called Dell on this, I doubt very much that they would say sorry, it has to be the company's registered office and refuse to make the visit to the location at which the hardware was actually deployed. In fact, they had this customer's previous office location on file when we called them, the office the customer had moved out of 2 years before, and they were happy to accommodate us at the new one. Of course, this does you no good at all regarding installation / customisation of the operating system, but surely it is unrealistic to expect that? Hard-drives fail, if you don't plan for that then you're asking for it. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] configuring wlan0
On Wednesday 18 November 2009 23:38:22 Michael P. Soulier wrote: On 18/11/09 Mick said: I don't think that there bugs in conf.d/net just a matter of preference. Alan suggested that wicd is a simpler way to have your wireless configured and it does not need /etc/init.d/*net scripts to function. I am running wpa_supplicant: modules=( wpa_supplicant ) wpa_supplicant_ath0=-Dwext and it just works??? for my wireless card. You may want to try something like this in your /etc/conf.d/net: sleep_scan_wlan0=1 config_wlan0=( dhcp ) fallback_wlan0=( 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 ) fallback_route_wlan0=( default via 192.168.0.1 ) in case there is a dhcp problem with how the router releases IP address leases. I'm not using dhcp, just a static address. Does your router know this? I'm not being funny, but I had run into a problem sometime in the past where a change in the dhcpcd version caused the router to not read the NIC MAC address correctly. That created a clash with the IP address lease. All I want the damn scripts to do is this modprobe ndiswrapper OK, have you looked in your logs/dmesg? I think that the ndiswrapper has to load first and probe your NIC, before /etc/init.d/net.wlan0 launches. It may pay to keep an eye on the router logs while your machine boots. My line above with sleep_scan_wlan0=1 or say 3 seconds delay may help, if this is the problem. iwconfig wlan0 essid digitaltorque ifconfig wlan0 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0 route add default gw 192.168.0.1 After looking at the net.example again maybe I need this modules=( ifconfig iwconfig !wpa_supplicant ) If you have not installed wpa_supplicant you don't need this. Just make sure #modules=( wpa_supplicant ) is commented out. iwconfig is the default anyway. ifconfig or iproute2 will work so I don't think that you need to define that either. Your entries: essid_wlan0=digitaltorque config_wlan0=( 192.168.0.5/24 ) routes_wlan0=( default via 192.168.0.1 ) are correct - so the error is not because of these. Or maybe I should just run an rc.local script. You could use the preup scripts in /etc/conf.d/net, if for some reason the ndiswrapper takes for ever to kick into action. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Troubles with kde4
On 11/20/2009 2:28 PM, econti wrote: cut further 4 - I cannot mount a partition (both from command line and from desktop) the answer is Only root can mount a device (all permissions are the same as before) I would check out groups username and see whether you are a member of the plugdev group. 5 - I am not able to become root (both in konsole and term) the answer is Authentication failed (consolekit is merged) Wheel group for this one. Marcus This was the first thing I did. Remeber, we are talking about a kde upgrade, so groups, permissions, etc should not be changed. emilio I know, I just thought that maybe for some weird reason it had changed your groups settings. I personally don't use kde since I'm on an old 2Ghz Pentium 4 with 256Mb of RAM... LXDE ftw! Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] cdrecord fails to burn dvd
José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com wrote: Do you mean a test without -V or -v ? Without -v, as in this case cdrecord does not read the drives buffer fill ratio. It seems that there is a bug in Pioneer firmware that is triggered by calling SCSI get buffer cap (0x5C)and that results in throwing away the DMA data. Good news! With the command (without using the -v option) $ script -f -c cdrecord -V debug=2 -sao -eject speed=8 fs=256m driveropts=burnfree /var/tmp/image.iso cdrecord.log cdrecord completed successfully. The sha1 sums (calculated in a different computer) for both the image and the recorded media are identical! Then it seems that the drive developer is Pioneer. TEAC is out of normal business sind 4 years but it may be that they are the OEM for drives developed by Pioneer. Is it fixable? Fixable would be updating the firmware in the drive. As it seems that Pioneer drives are sold by many companies, it may be that I need to find a suitable workaround for the bug. Jörg -- EMail:jo...@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin j...@cs.tu-berlin.de(uni) joerg.schill...@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily
Re: [gentoo-user] where can I find USE flags description?
Stroller wrote: On 20 Nov 2009, at 10:05, Johannes Kimmel wrote: Jarry wrote: Hi, I want to emerge a certain package, let's say x11-base/xorg-drivers, so I try first emerge --pretend xorg-drivers and find it has ~50 various use-flags (some set, some unset). Where can I find their description? For example vmmouse, what is this USE flag good for? Is it something for vmware? I checked /etc/portage/profiles/use.desc and use.local.desc but there are not all of them... Jarry Maybe you want to try this little peace of code: alias findflag=flagedit --desc --list | grep -i Works really great. If you search for a pattern, just findflag foo. If you search for a specific use-flag you just add : at the end, like findflag bar: Don't forget to install flagedit first, if you haven't already. Surely this is just a re-implementation of the existing app-portage/euses? $ euses foo foomaticdb - Adds support for the foomatic printing driver database $ Stroller. seems so. but since I use flagedit anyway, I don't need another programm. Output is nearly the same.
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync backup system
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 08:05:27 -0800, Grant wrote: How is BackupPC to set up? Is it a whole new world to explore, or can it be set up quickly and easily? It takes a little while to get the hang of how the config files work, but once you get it it takes no work at all. Restoring is as simple as selecting the files you want in a browser and pressing a button. -- Neil Bothwick LISP: Lots of Infuriating Silly Parentheses signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:23:03 -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote: Ah. Then I can't really give you any recommendation besides the fact that gentoolkit seems to be what most people use, and there is certainly something to be said for using the most popular programs since there will be faster support and bugfixes. Like Windows? equery is known to give incorrect results, and has done for years. -- Neil Bothwick I don't know if I can assimilate one more Borg Tagline! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [the end] icons missing in k3b
On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 17:10:02 +0100, Jacques Montier wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] [the end] icons missing in k3b: David W Noon a gentiment tapote: [snip] This looks like your XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable might be missing a directory or two. No amount of recompiling will cure that. Instead, you need to look in the /etc/env.d directory, correct any errors, then logout and login. Here's mine: /usr/local/share:/usr/share:/usr/kde/3.5/share:/usr/share/gdm:/usr/share [snip] Mine is /usr/local/share:/usr/share:/usr/share/gdm:/usr/share So i tried to add XDG_DATA_DIRS=/usr/share/kde4/ in /etc/env.d/43kdepaths. But no success, log out then in does not change anything. Hi Jacques, Try /usr/share/apps/k3b instead. Also, whenever you modify any file in /etc/env.d you need tp run env-update, so that all the login scripts are updated for your new environment. -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] == dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) == signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg / Intel VGA and multiple display
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Space Cakex spaceca...@gmail.com wrote: I'm using xf86-video-intel - 2.9.1 ; xorg-server - 1.6.5 and xorg-drivers - 1.6 My hardware : 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) I using 2.6.31-gentoo-r2 with KMS and Idon't have a xorg.conf file. I set my two monitors using xrandr : xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1280x800 xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024 --above LVDS1 X works fine, but XFCE display setting don't, waiting for a fix already in the XFCE roadmap. yes, something similar working fine for me, but what I'm really looking for is a solution to make it automatic :) so, when I put my laptop on the docking station this should change to dual mode, but when I remove it can switch back to standalone You can do this using ACPI events. Had you emerged acpid ? If yes, you can discover the event for docking and undocking with tail -f /var/log/messages when you dock and undock the laptop. Then, create the /etc/acpi/events/docking-event file (the file name doesn't matter) like this : #event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 0080 1004 (put your event here) #action=/etc/acpi/actions/my-dualhead-dockingscript At finally, create the /etc/acpi/actions/my-dualhead-dockingscript file with xrandr's commands : #!/bin/bash xrandr --output LVDS1 --mode 1280x800 xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1280x1024 --above LVDS1 Check if dock and undock events are differrents and improve this basic idea. good luck. at least I would like to make an xorg.conf to handle my two monitors better than currently where I have to configure resolutions and display placements each time I reboot my machine or changing from or to docking station I know this is a nice dream, but I'm sure the future where this is true with linux is not so far :) Laszlo
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge hints needed
Thanks, yes I am aware of the caveats - but they dont really apply when rescuing something as severely broken as this system was - I upgraded 3 machines without a problem, and this one died on reboot - badly :( BillK On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 23:44 -0600, Dale wrote: Bill Kenworthy wrote: Some time back I saw someone mention a way to get emerge to install an ebuild with a bad digest - man emerge shows nothing so can someone give me a hint. It was much easier than going down the ebuild path. I think it is --digest. I don't see it in the man page so you may have to do that with the ebuild command and the manifest option. See man page to make sure. I will also add, you should not do this unless it passed the first test and you had to edit the file for some reason. It could be corrupt or altered in some unknown way otherwise. Also, I am in the process of rescuing a system from the e2fs/util-linux/device-mapper snafu and find that now I have it booted re-emerging util-linux wont overwrite the files I manually installed to replace the missing ones - necessitating manually rm'ing some 50 or so files - is there a way to force emerge to ignore file collisions and just overwrite them in this circumstance? BillK I think you are looking for this option with emerge: --noconfmem Causes portage to disregard merge records indicating that a config file inside of a CONFIG_PRO- TECT directory has been merged already. Portage will normally merge those files only once to prevent the user from dealing with the same config multiple times. This flag will cause the file to always be merged. Keep in mind that it will replace whatever it emerges which may include dependencies. I have never used that option before so be forewarned if it does. Hope that helps. Dale :-) :-) -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth!
Re: [gentoo-user] equery versus q-tools
On 11/20/2009 5:16 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 20 Nov 2009 13:23:03 -0500, Marcus Wanner wrote: Ah. Then I can't really give you any recommendation besides the fact that gentoolkit seems to be what most people use, and there is certainly something to be said for using the most popular programs since there will be faster support and bugfixes. Like Windows? I did say (right after the snip) that: Or course, that is a valid decision criteria only when there is no other reason to choose a specific option (there would be no such thing as the linux or even gentoo user base otherwise). What I meant by that was, quite frankly, that Windows sucks. Marcus
[gentoo-user] Slow samba transfers from gentoo to gentoo, any way to improve them?
I have a gentoo server running stable fully updated, and I share a folder with samba on a gigabit network. The client dual boots Gentoo (stable again) and Windows 7. Under windows 7, getting a file from the server achieves around 70MB/s Under Gentoo, using gnome gvfs, it can only achieve around 30BM/s. I though that gvfs must be slow, and I tried manually using cifs mount, but again the speed dropped further to ~18mb/s. Both the client and server happen to use exactly the same network card, so it must not be a network driver problem as all my gentoo systems use the same kernel, as the Windows performance is acceptable, something must go wrong in my client-desktop gentoo, any ideas?
