Re: [gentoo-user] does the "aqua" use flag still valid in gentoo 2008?
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:56:39 +0800, Xi Shen wrote: > i want to try to enable the "aqua" flag with my kde. but it is > displayed as "(-aqua)" when i try to emerge kde. i searched the > network, and people say it is disabled by my profile. i am using the > "default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop" profile. which profile should i use > to enable this use flag? Stick with the profile you are most happy with and modify it in /etc/portage/profile. In this case echo "-aqua" >>/etc/portage/profile/use.mask man portage explains more. -- Neil Bothwick If it doesn't fit, you're not using a big enough hammer. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gst-plugins
Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Thursday 07 January 2010 02:33:14 dhk wrote: >> When do I need gstreamer? When I run the "emerge --search >> @media-plugins/gst-plugins" command I get a lot of results and I have no >> idea what I need to install for what I want to do. >> >> Right now I want to listen to a radio show at >> http://www.legendsradio.net/ and it says I need a plugin. Anyone know >> how I find out which one I need? I pretty sure I need a gst-plugin, but >> not sure. > > It's better to say what error you get rather than ask how you fix the problem > you assume you might be having. You need gstreamer and it's plugins when you > use an app that uses gstreamer to play media. The thing you use might not use > gstreamer. > > Having said that, the site you mention does not appear to work. I get "server > down" errors on just about every play link. Maybe the station is barfed? > Thanks
[gentoo-user] eth0 failure
Hi , on my gentoo-Laptopwith AMD - K8 the network is NOT running : ifconfig eth0 down ifconfig eth0 up Disabling IRQ #5 Why ?
Re: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Re: sky2 , kernel 2.6.31, macbook pro and connection hiccups
Neil Walker ha scritto: > bn wrote: >> Ehm, no, it disconnects randomly every about ~5 minutes, and then comes >> back. >> > > Most network problems can be traced to the cable or connectors. Have you > tried > a different cable? It was the cable, indeed. :) Thanks for the hint! m.
Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 failure
On Thursday 07 January 2010 15:17:05 GerhardosG wrote: > Hi , > > on my gentoo-Laptopwith AMD - K8 the network > > is NOT running : > > ifconfig eth0 down > > ifconfig eth0 up > Disabling IRQ #5 > > Why ? > Yea gods, not another one. How on this earth can you expect people to help you if you do not provide information. We have no idea what machine you have, what network card, what errors are taking place, what modules, what kernel or anything else that's important to help you, because you did not say. My initial opinion as to why your network does not work is that your card is physically fucked. Feel free to disagree and prove me wrong by means of: - relevant dmesg output - relevant /var/log/messages output - relevant lspci output - relevant lsmod output - relevant uname -a output - relevant kernel configuration output - relevant verbose output on the shell when starting the interface - anything else relevant -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 failure
GerhardosG ha scritto: > Hi , > > on my gentoo-Laptopwith AMD - K8 the network > > is NOT running : > > ifconfig eth0 down > > ifconfig eth0 up > Disabling IRQ #5 > > Why ? > We will never know if you don't give some detail about your hardware, kernel configuration, etc. At the bare minimum, the output of lspci -vv relevant to your network card. In the meantime, read this: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Hope it helps! m.
Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 failure
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Em 07-01-2010 11:17, GerhardosG escreveu: > Hi , > > on my gentoo-Laptopwith AMD - K8 the network > > is NOT running : > > ifconfig eth0 down > > ifconfig eth0 up Disabling IRQ #5 > > Why ? > > > > > > My cristal ball isn't on-line now. Please feed us with more *usable* information guy. Thanks. hint: You're compiled your kernel with support to your ethernet card? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktF4y0ACgkQ35zeJy7JhCgCEACdGFnib/eUcES8+1yVB5Q7dv6k U9cAn00GVUaD4EwHb+LTJwjmhha6Z5q1 =zdyV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[gentoo-user] [OT] Kate autoindent doesn't autoindent since upgrade to kde 4
Hi, I was a happy Kate user for Python programming. Now I have a slight but noticeable annoyance: it doesn't autoindent anymore when pressing return. I mean, if I write: def foo(): pass I used to find the cursor in the correct indented position. Now instead I find myself writing: def foo(): pass unless I actually press Tab before writing "pass". Indenting settings were on "None". I tried changing the indenting settings to "Python" or "Normal", but nothing happens. Where should I look? Thanks, m.
Re: [gentoo-user] eth0 failure
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:32:01 +0100, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 January 2010 15:17:05 GerhardosG wrote: Hi , on my gentoo-Laptopwith AMD - K8 the network is NOT running : ifconfig eth0 down ifconfig eth0 up Disabling IRQ #5 Why ? Yea gods, not another one. How on this earth can you expect people to help you if you do not provide information. We have no idea what machine you have, what network card, what errors are taking place, what modules, what kernel or anything else that's important to help you, because you did not say. My initial opinion as to why your network does not work is that your card is physically fucked. Feel free to disagree and prove me wrong by means of: - relevant dmesg output - relevant /var/log/messages output - relevant lspci output - relevant lsmod output - relevant uname -a output - relevant kernel configuration output - relevant verbose output on the shell when starting the interface - anything else relevant You might also want to add /etc/conf.d/net to the list of things to look through. OT: I had the same reaction Alan, i had just finished reading the other one who provided no information. It really is dumbfounding. -- Zeerak
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-power/powermgmt-base blocks sys-power/pm-utils, but it's not installed yet
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 09:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thursday 07 January 2010 05:35:39 Michael Sullivan wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 22:23 +0100, Renat Golubchyk wrote:
> > > Hi!
> > >
> > > On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:49:05 -0600
> > >
> > > Michael Sullivan wrote:
> > > > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> > > > * installed at the same time on the same system.
> > > >
> > > > ('ebuild', '/', 'sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22', 'merge') pulled in
> > > > by
> > > >
> > > > >=sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22 required by ('ebuild', '/',
> > > >
> > > > 'sys-apps/apmd-3.2.2_p5', 'merge')
> > > >
> > > > ('ebuild', '/', 'sys-power/pm-utils-1.2.5', 'merge') pulled in by
> > > > sys-power/pm-utils required by ('installed', '/',
> > > > 'kde-base/powerdevil-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
> > >
> > > According to the error message sys-power/powermgmt-base is getting
> > > pulled by sys-apps/apmd and sys-power/pm-utils by kde-base/powerdevil.
> > > If you use ACPI then there is probably no need in having APM daemon
> > > installed. Add -t to your emerge command and check what package depends
> > > on apmd.
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Renat
> >
> > These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
> >
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > [nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-2.26.3 USE="cdr cups dvdr
> > -accessibility -esd -ldap -mono"
> > [nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.26.3 USE="acpi apm gnome
> > gstreamer hal ipv6 -debug -doc -policykit"
>
> USE="-apm"
>
> If you have acpi you do not need to use apm. Unless you have weird hardware.
catherine ~ # USE="-apm" emerge -pvuDt world
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-2.26.3 USE="cdr cups dvdr
-accessibility -esd -ldap -mono"
[nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.26.3 USE="acpi apm gnome
gstreamer hal ipv6 -debug -doc -policykit"
[ebuild N] sys-apps/apmd-3.2.2_p5 USE="X nls" 0 kB
[nomerge ] games-emulation/dosbox-0.73 USE="alsa opengl -debug
-hardened"
[nomerge ] media-libs/sdl-sound-1.0.3 USE="flac mikmod mp3 mpeg
vorbis -physfs -speex"
[ebuild U ] media-libs/libmikmod-3.2.0_beta2-r1 [3.1.11-r5]
USE="oss (-alsa%*) (-esd%)" 744 kB
[nomerge ] kde-base/kde-meta-4.3.3 USE="nls -accessibility
(-kdeprefix)"
[nomerge ] kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.3 USE="semantic-desktop
(-kdeprefix) -policykit"
[nomerge ] kde-base/powerdevil-4.3.3 USE="pm-utils (-aqua)
-debug (-kdeenablefinal) (-kdeprefix)"
[ebuild N]sys-power/pm-utils-1.2.5 USE="alsa -debug
-networkmanager -ntp" VIDEO_CARDS="-intel -radeon" 0 kB
[nomerge ] sys-apps/apmd-3.2.2_p5 USE="X nls"
[ebuild N] sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22 0 kB
[blocks B ] sys-power/powermgmt-base ("sys-power/powermgmt-base" is
blocking sys-power/pm-utils-1.2.5)
Total: 4 packages (1 upgrade, 3 new), Size of downloads: 744 kB
Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied)
* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.
('ebuild', '/', 'sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22', 'merge') pulled in by
>=sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'sys-apps/apmd-3.2.2_p5', 'merge')
('ebuild', '/', 'sys-power/pm-utils-1.2.5', 'merge') pulled in by
sys-power/pm-utils required by ('installed', '/',
'kde-base/powerdevil-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the
following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
* IMPORTANT: 3 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
* Use eselect news to read news items.
catherine ~ #
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-power/powermgmt-base blocks sys-power/pm-utils, but it's not installed yet
On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:55:51 +0100, Michael Sullivan
wrote:
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 09:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Thursday 07 January 2010 05:35:39 Michael Sullivan wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 22:23 +0100, Renat Golubchyk wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > On Wed, 06 Jan 2010 07:49:05 -0600
> >
> > Michael Sullivan wrote:
> > > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> > > * installed at the same time on the same system.
> > >
> > > ('ebuild', '/', 'sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22', 'merge')
pulled in
> > > by
> > >
> > > >=sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22 required by ('ebuild', '/',
> > >
> > > 'sys-apps/apmd-3.2.2_p5', 'merge')
> > >
> > > ('ebuild', '/', 'sys-power/pm-utils-1.2.5', 'merge') pulled in
by
> > > sys-power/pm-utils required by ('installed', '/',
> > > 'kde-base/powerdevil-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
> >
> > According to the error message sys-power/powermgmt-base is getting
> > pulled by sys-apps/apmd and sys-power/pm-utils by
kde-base/powerdevil.
> > If you use ACPI then there is probably no need in having APM daemon
> > installed. Add -t to your emerge command and check what package
depends
> > on apmd.
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Renat
>
> These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-2.26.3 USE="cdr cups dvdr
> -accessibility -esd -ldap -mono"
> [nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.26.3 USE="acpi apm gnome
> gstreamer hal ipv6 -debug -doc -policykit"
USE="-apm"
If you have acpi you do not need to use apm. Unless you have weird
hardware.
catherine ~ # USE="-apm" emerge -pvuDt world
These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
Calculating dependencies... done!
[nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-2.26.3 USE="cdr cups dvdr
-accessibility -esd -ldap -mono"
[nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.26.3 USE="acpi apm gnome
gstreamer hal ipv6 -debug -doc -policykit"
[ebuild N] sys-apps/apmd-3.2.2_p5 USE="X nls" 0 kB
[nomerge ] games-emulation/dosbox-0.73 USE="alsa opengl -debug
-hardened"
[nomerge ] media-libs/sdl-sound-1.0.3 USE="flac mikmod mp3 mpeg
vorbis -physfs -speex"
[ebuild U ] media-libs/libmikmod-3.2.0_beta2-r1 [3.1.11-r5]
USE="oss (-alsa%*) (-esd%)" 744 kB
[nomerge ] kde-base/kde-meta-4.3.3 USE="nls -accessibility
(-kdeprefix)"
[nomerge ] kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.3 USE="semantic-desktop
(-kdeprefix) -policykit"
[nomerge ] kde-base/powerdevil-4.3.3 USE="pm-utils (-aqua)
-debug (-kdeenablefinal) (-kdeprefix)"
[ebuild N]sys-power/pm-utils-1.2.5 USE="alsa -debug
-networkmanager -ntp" VIDEO_CARDS="-intel -radeon" 0 kB
[nomerge ] sys-apps/apmd-3.2.2_p5 USE="X nls"
[ebuild N] sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22 0 kB
[blocks B ] sys-power/powermgmt-base ("sys-power/powermgmt-base" is
blocking sys-power/pm-utils-1.2.5)
Total: 4 packages (1 upgrade, 3 new), Size of downloads: 744 kB
Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied)
* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.
('ebuild', '/', 'sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22', 'merge') pulled in by
>=sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22 required by ('ebuild', '/',
'sys-apps/apmd-3.2.2_p5', 'merge')
('ebuild', '/', 'sys-power/pm-utils-1.2.5', 'merge') pulled in by
sys-power/pm-utils required by ('installed', '/',
'kde-base/powerdevil-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the
following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
* IMPORTANT: 3 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
* Use eselect news to read news items.
catherine ~ #
If the package pulling in powermgmt-base isn't necessary for anything you
know of then add it to package.mask
--
Zeerak
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-power/powermgmt-base blocks sys-power/pm-utils, but it's not installed yet [SOLVED I think]
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > [nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-2.26.3 USE="cdr cups dvdr
> > -accessibility -esd -ldap -mono"
> > [nomerge ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.26.3 USE="acpi apm gnome
> > gstreamer hal ipv6 -debug -doc -policykit"
> > [ebuild N] sys-apps/apmd-3.2.2_p5 USE="X nls" 0 kB
> > [nomerge ] games-emulation/dosbox-0.73 USE="alsa opengl -debug
> > -hardened"
> > [nomerge ] media-libs/sdl-sound-1.0.3 USE="flac mikmod mp3 mpeg
> > vorbis -physfs -speex"
> > [ebuild U ] media-libs/libmikmod-3.2.0_beta2-r1 [3.1.11-r5]
> > USE="oss (-alsa%*) (-esd%)" 744 kB
> > [nomerge ] kde-base/kde-meta-4.3.3 USE="nls -accessibility
> > (-kdeprefix)"
> > [nomerge ] kde-base/kdebase-meta-4.3.3 USE="semantic-desktop
> > (-kdeprefix) -policykit"
> > [nomerge ] kde-base/powerdevil-4.3.3 USE="pm-utils (-aqua)
> > -debug (-kdeenablefinal) (-kdeprefix)"
> > [ebuild N]sys-power/pm-utils-1.2.5 USE="alsa -debug
> > -networkmanager -ntp" VIDEO_CARDS="-intel -radeon" 0 kB
> > [nomerge ] sys-apps/apmd-3.2.2_p5 USE="X nls"
> > [ebuild N] sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22 0 kB
> > [blocks B ] sys-power/powermgmt-base ("sys-power/powermgmt-base" is
> > blocking sys-power/pm-utils-1.2.5)
> >
> > Total: 4 packages (1 upgrade, 3 new), Size of downloads: 744 kB
> > Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied)
> >
> > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> > * installed at the same time on the same system.
> >
> > ('ebuild', '/', 'sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22', 'merge') pulled in by
> > >=sys-power/powermgmt-base-1.22 required by ('ebuild', '/',
> > 'sys-apps/apmd-3.2.2_p5', 'merge')
> >
> > ('ebuild', '/', 'sys-power/pm-utils-1.2.5', 'merge') pulled in by
> > sys-power/pm-utils required by ('installed', '/',
> > 'kde-base/powerdevil-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
> >
> >
> > For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the
> > following
> > section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):
> >
> > http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?full=1#blocked
> >
> >
> > * IMPORTANT: 3 news items need reading for repository 'gentoo'.
> > * Use eselect news to read news items.
> >
> > catherine ~ #
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> If the package pulling in powermgmt-base isn't necessary for anything you
> know of then add it to package.mask
>
I changed USE in /etc/make.conf to -apm and did an emerge -ND world and
the block is resolved. I think the apm flag got added to solve an X
problem years ago, but I guess we'll find out the next time the computer
is rebooted...
Re: [gentoo-user] does the "aqua" use flag still valid in gentoo 2008?
On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Xi Shen wrote: > hi, > > i want to try to enable the "aqua" flag with my kde. but it is > displayed as "(-aqua)" when i try to emerge kde. i searched the > network, and people say it is disabled by my profile. i am using the > "default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop" profile. which profile should i use > to enable this use flag? > > This is because Aqua/Carbon are Mac OS X-specific UI libraries - unless you're running Gentoo/Darwin (aka Gentoo on Mac OS X), you're not going to have the necessary UI libraries for the compiling packages to link against, unless you've managed to extract the Carbon libraries intact from a Mac system (no idea if that's even possible...) HTH- James > > -- > Best Regards, > David Shen > > http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ > http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/ > >
Re: [gentoo-user] sys-power/powermgmt-base blocks sys-power/pm-utils, but it's not installed yet
On Thursday 07 January 2010 15:55:51 Michael Sullivan wrote: > > USE="-apm" > > > > If you have acpi you do not need to use apm. Unless you have weird > > hardware. > > catherine ~ # USE="-apm" emerge -pvuDt world > You need "N" in those portage options. Without it, it won't take changed USE flags into account for already installed packages. Test with -p, if you are happy with what portage intends to do, put USE="-apm" into make.conf or packages.use as normal, then run the emerge for real. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked
On 6 Jan 2010, at 18:57, Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: On 5 Jan 2010, at 23:33, Dale wrote: ... Gentoo wasn't at fault here. KDE was the one that dropped the ball. Gentoo had to follow the knuckle heads at KDE tho. Between KDE & Gentoo, aren't most contributors volunteers? In volunteer development it's normal & necessary to focus on the features that one needs most. I can really understand KDE's position that downstream distros - Red Hat & Canonical both have paid developers - can continue maintenance on a codebase that is no longer receiving their primary attention. So, KDE is maintaining KDE 3.5? If KDE is/was maintaining KDE 3.5 then Gentoo would still have it in the tree. If KDE is not supporting KDE 3.5 then Gentoo has to drop it, as things break and develop security issues. Again, this is not Gentoo's fault for not developing KDE 3.5, it is KDE that dropped it. What Redhat does most likely won't affect what Gentoo does. I don't use Redhat but I do use Gentoo. Where did I say KDE is maintaining KDE 3.5? If you want to find "fault", Dale, it's your fault for using free software you're not prepared to maintain. The source code is there - fix any bugs you have problems with. I'm also pretty sure that Gentoo doesn't do development work on Gnome, Fluxbox, Apache, MySql and other packages. They just make ebuilds and put them in the tree so people can use them. I'm pretty sure you don't do development work on X, Y or Z, either. I'm all for attributing blame when devs make decisions I disagree with, but this is simply a matter of limited resources. I hope my above statements don't sound nasty, but you want 3.5, Alan [1] wants KDE 4. The various developers upstream of you and Alan - i.e. both KDE and Gentoo - don't have time to work on both. So they have each chosen where to spend their time, and that's on KDE 4. Sorry if you don't like it - this wasn't my decision, I'm just trying to explain. Either you or Alan are going to be disappointed that your preferred version doesn't get the attention you would like it to. Sorry it had to be you. Stroller. [1] Some hypothetical Alan who does not really exist.
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked
On Thursday 07 January 2010 21:19:27 Stroller wrote: > I hope my above statements don't sound nasty, but you want 3.5, Alan > [1] wants KDE 4. The various developers upstream of you and Alan - > i.e. both KDE and Gentoo - don't have time to work on both. So they > have each chosen where to spend their time, and that's on KDE 4. [snip] > [1] Some hypothetical Alan who does not really exist. Ahem I *think*, but not sure, that I feel offended by being mythicalisized[2] [2] Some hypothetical word that truly does not exist. Lucky for us, the Red hats and SuSEs of this world will maintain at least critical security flaws in KDE-3.5 that Gentoo users can import into kde- sunset: those distros shipped KDE-3.5 and are still actively supported -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Thursday 07 January 2010 21:19:27 Stroller wrote: I hope my above statements don't sound nasty, but you want 3.5, Alan [1] wants KDE 4. The various developers upstream of you and Alan - i.e. both KDE and Gentoo - don't have time to work on both. So they have each chosen where to spend their time, and that's on KDE 4. [snip] [1] Some hypothetical Alan who does not really exist. Ahem I *think*, but not sure, that I feel offended by being mythicalisized[2] [2] Some hypothetical word that truly does not exist. Lucky for us, the Red hats and SuSEs of this world will maintain at least critical security flaws in KDE-3.5 that Gentoo users can import into kde- sunset: those distros shipped KDE-3.5 and are still actively supported Should we also assume that Redhat and SuSE is doing that support, not KDE who is the one that dropped KDE 3.5 ?? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked
Stroller wrote: On 6 Jan 2010, at 18:57, Dale wrote: Stroller wrote: On 5 Jan 2010, at 23:33, Dale wrote: ... Gentoo wasn't at fault here. KDE was the one that dropped the ball. Gentoo had to follow the knuckle heads at KDE tho. Between KDE & Gentoo, aren't most contributors volunteers? In volunteer development it's normal & necessary to focus on the features that one needs most. I can really understand KDE's position that downstream distros - Red Hat & Canonical both have paid developers - can continue maintenance on a codebase that is no longer receiving their primary attention. So, KDE is maintaining KDE 3.5? If KDE is/was maintaining KDE 3.5 then Gentoo would still have it in the tree. If KDE is not supporting KDE 3.5 then Gentoo has to drop it, as things break and develop security issues. Again, this is not Gentoo's fault for not developing KDE 3.5, it is KDE that dropped it. What Redhat does most likely won't affect what Gentoo does. I don't use Redhat but I do use Gentoo. Where did I say KDE is maintaining KDE 3.5? That was the question. Saying that Redhat or someone else is maintaining KDE is not the same as KDE maintaining it. If you want to find "fault", Dale, it's your fault for using free software you're not prepared to maintain. The source code is there - fix any bugs you have problems with. My fault? I don't develop any software so is everything else my fault too? I'm also pretty sure that Gentoo doesn't do development work on Gnome, Fluxbox, Apache, MySql and other packages. They just make ebuilds and put them in the tree so people can use them. I'm pretty sure you don't do development work on X, Y or Z, either. I'm all for attributing blame when devs make decisions I disagree with, but this is simply a matter of limited resources. I hope my above statements don't sound nasty, but you want 3.5, Alan [1] wants KDE 4. The various developers upstream of you and Alan - i.e. both KDE and Gentoo - don't have time to work on both. So they have each chosen where to spend their time, and that's on KDE 4. Sorry if you don't like it - this wasn't my decision, I'm just trying to explain. Either you or Alan are going to be disappointed that your preferred version doesn't get the attention you would like it to. Sorry it had to be you. Stroller. [1] Some hypothetical Alan who does not really exist. And I'm sorry that they made the decision they made too. Thing about software, no one can force someone to use it. With windoze, you get IE whether you like it or not. You don't really have a *easy* choice there. If I don't like KDE, I can switch to something else. With things brealing like they are, that day may come. This point has been discussed a lot on the KDE mailing list. KDE dropped support for KDE 3.5. It wasn't Gentoo that dropped it. It wasn't any other distro either, it was KDE. Sorry you want to blame me or someone else for their decisions. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] New application: app-portage/kportagetray
On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 18:05:14 -0200, Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas wrote:
> And I'm attaching tarball and ebuild (80KiB ~) and I would appreciate
> if someone test it and give me a feedback :)
% kportagetray
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/kportagetray", line 68, in
KPortageTray_MainWindow = KPT_MainWindow()
File "/usr/share/apps/KPortageTray/KPT_MainWindow.py", line 69, in
__init__ self._dbus = KPT_dbus()
File "/usr/share/apps/KPortageTray/KPT_dbus.py", line 38, in __init__
self._notify =
dbus.SessionBus().get_object('org.kde.VisualNotifications',
'/VisualNotifications') File
"/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 244, in get_object
follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes) File
"/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 241, in
__init__ self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name) File
"/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 183, in
activate_name_owner self.start_service_by_name(bus_name) File
"/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 281, in
start_service_by_name 'su', (bus_name, flags))) File
"/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 622, in
call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
org.kde.VisualNotifications was not provided by any .service files
Sorry :(
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[gentoo-user] [micro HOWTO] Adding custom mount options for gnome-mounted drives
For many weeks I've been looking for a way to add the 'noatime' and 'nodiratime' flags for drives that are automounted in gnome. Sifting through the mountains of information about how hal, hotplug, udev, and gnome interact was painful, but I finally stumbled across a working method on the LinuxFromScratch website. In the good-ole days (several months ago) the way to do it would have been to put a customized fdi file in /etc/hal/fdi/policy/. More recently hal has pushed that task up to the 'desktop' layer, e.g. gnome, kde, kfce, etc. I suppose that's because such a preference should be left up to the user instead of the sysadmin, but I can only speculate about what motivates the hal daemon. In gnome, the way to do it is to use the gconf editor (open the 'Configuration Editor' in the Applications::System-Tools drop- down menu). Below the root entry, you'll see 'apps', 'desktop', 'schemas', and 'system'. Expand 'system' and then 'storage' below that, and finally 'default_options' below that. You should see a list of filesystem types, like iso9660, ntfs, and so on. Each filesystem type has a 'mount_options' key that you can edit by double-clicking on it. Thus, each filesystem type has its own custom mount options -- but what happened to ext2? I've reformatted some of my USB sticks from vfat to ext2, and I'd like to customized the mount options for them too. LinuxFromScratch to the rescue! They point out that the gconf editor can't edit everything that appears in the gnome 'registry' but there is a command-line tool 'gconftool-2' that can. The way to customize the default mount options for ext2 drives is to do this from a command prompt: gconftool-2 --type list --list-type=string \ --set /system/storage/default_options/ext2/mount_options \ "[noatime,nodiratime]" See how simple and intuitive once you have an example staring you in the face? Dunno why I didn't just try that in the first place :o/ Lest you kde fans sneer at us gnome gnerds, see if you can do the same thing using the tools that kde provides you! Does kde allow you to automount USB sticks and external hard drives? And customize the mount options?
Re: [gentoo-user] New application: app-portage/kportagetray
I have no technical opinion about this app but I will say that: 1) It showed up in my GMail spam folder which is uncommon for me on this list, and... 2) The idea of end-users installing ebuilds themselves from an unknown individual delivered through an email list is about as insane as it could be. Just what I need is an untested ebuild that I install and build myself stealing everything on my system. As a user and someone who cares about Gentoo I'd like to see ALL ebuilds banned from this list. Only takes one bad seed and one not-very knowledgeable user like me to give the distro a black eye it doesn't deserve. Yeah, I'm paranoid... Cheers, Mark On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas wrote: > Hello fellows, > > I already sent this e-mail to Dev ML but I decided to sent it also to user ML > to get more feedbacks. > > I started to code a new application to make some daily tasks easier with > portage. It is called KPortageTray. > > It is coded with PyKDE, so, unfortunately (or fortunately :D) you will need > PyKDE and KDE to install it. > I'm not sure if I make something that will need portage 2.2, if anyone can > tell me I'll appreciate. > > By now, I just implemented some very common tasks like: > > - Sync portage tree; > - Upgrade world set; > - Check if there are upgrade available; > * I'll make something to schedule it in future versions. > - Upgrade portage version; > - Run etc-update, revdep-rebuild or execute dep-clean at the system. > > I used a very simple approach: for every actions that the user must see the > output, a script execute a konsole with kdesu. With this way, isn't necessary > to run the application as root which, in my opinion, is better. > > This application can save some typing with daily tasks, but it will never > substitute CLI, since some complicate things is very hard to handle. For > example, if there are some Block, KPortageTray warning the user, show the > output from emerge and let the user resolve it. But, since it is very uncommon > to have a Block, this software can really save some time. > > I make some tests but it is at the beginning of development, so I'm asking for > help do add new features / give ideas / report bugs. If the community like it, > maybe I'll open a git repository somewhere. > > I took three screenshots: > > http://yfrog.com/7akportagetray01p > http://yfrog.com/11kportagetray02p > http://yfrog.com/b6kportagetray03p > > And I'm attaching tarball and ebuild (80KiB ~) and I would appreciate if > someone test it and give me a feedback :) > > My future plans is to make possible to use just PyQT instead PyKDE or make a > version using PyGTK. > > But, remember, I have started the development on Saturday, so you probably > will found bugs and problems. > > Regards, > -- > Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas > Control and Automation Engineer > Gentoo Foundation Member >
[gentoo-user] problem with "aqua" keyword
hi, i ran into a strange problem. i am using gentoo 2008 amd64, with kde 4.3. i want to try the "aqua" gui with kde desktop. so i enabled "aqua" use flag, but when emerge kdelibs, it requires a tool named "install_name_tool" which is a apple dev tool. so i think i could get this tool by emerging gcc-apple. but gcc-apple requires "x64-macos". do i have to change my CHOST to "x64-macos" and rebuild my whole system? is it possible to emerge the gcc-apple with my linux CHOST? -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] [micro HOWTO] Adding custom mount options for gnome-mounted drives
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:14 -0800, walt wrote: > gconftool-2 --type list --list-type=string \ > --set /system/storage/default_options/ext2/mount_options \ > "[noatime,nodiratime]" nice, thanks! -- Iain Buchanan Be careful of reading health books, you might die of a misprint. -- Mark Twain
Re: [gentoo-user] New application: app-portage/kportagetray
1) You can easily verify the valid of my e-mail looking my signature and/or searching me at freenode. 2) I'll repeat: this is a development version that I have started to code on Saturday, so it WILL have bugs and problems, but, like every other open source application, I need community help to improve it. To be more short: if you don't stay comfortable to install and test this software, just don't install or test this software. Many others might want to help the development. -- Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas Control and Automation Engineer Gentoo Foundation Member Em Quinta-feira 07 Janeiro 2010, às 22:40:04, Mark Knecht escreveu: > I have no technical opinion about this app but I will say that: > > 1) It showed up in my GMail spam folder which is uncommon for me on > this list, and... > > 2) The idea of end-users installing ebuilds themselves from an unknown > individual delivered through an email list is about as insane as it > could be. Just what I need is an untested ebuild that I install and > build myself stealing everything on my system. > > As a user and someone who cares about Gentoo I'd like to see ALL > ebuilds banned from this list. Only takes one bad seed and one > not-very knowledgeable user like me to give the distro a black eye it > doesn't deserve. > > Yeah, I'm paranoid... > > Cheers, > Mark > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas > > wrote: > > Hello fellows, > > > > I already sent this e-mail to Dev ML but I decided to sent it also to > > user ML to get more feedbacks. > > > > I started to code a new application to make some daily tasks easier with > > portage. It is called KPortageTray. > > > > It is coded with PyKDE, so, unfortunately (or fortunately :D) you will > > need PyKDE and KDE to install it. > > I'm not sure if I make something that will need portage 2.2, if anyone > > can tell me I'll appreciate. > > > > By now, I just implemented some very common tasks like: > > > > - Sync portage tree; > > - Upgrade world set; > > - Check if there are upgrade available; > >* I'll make something to schedule it in future versions. > > - Upgrade portage version; > > - Run etc-update, revdep-rebuild or execute dep-clean at the system. > > > > I used a very simple approach: for every actions that the user must see > > the output, a script execute a konsole with kdesu. With this way, isn't > > necessary to run the application as root which, in my opinion, is better. > > > > This application can save some typing with daily tasks, but it will never > > substitute CLI, since some complicate things is very hard to handle. For > > example, if there are some Block, KPortageTray warning the user, show the > > output from emerge and let the user resolve it. But, since it is very > > uncommon to have a Block, this software can really save some time. > > > > I make some tests but it is at the beginning of development, so I'm > > asking for help do add new features / give ideas / report bugs. If the > > community like it, maybe I'll open a git repository somewhere. > > > > I took three screenshots: > > > > http://yfrog.com/7akportagetray01p > > http://yfrog.com/11kportagetray02p > > http://yfrog.com/b6kportagetray03p > > > > And I'm attaching tarball and ebuild (80KiB ~) and I would appreciate if > > someone test it and give me a feedback :) > > > > My future plans is to make possible to use just PyQT instead PyKDE or > > make a version using PyGTK. > > > > But, remember, I have started the development on Saturday, so you > > probably will found bugs and problems. > > > > Regards, > > -- > > Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas > > Control and Automation Engineer > > Gentoo Foundation Member > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] New application: app-portage/kportagetray
I think I forgot a dependency.
Can you check your version of PyQt4 and if it was built with dbus USE-flag?
I'll correct the ebuild, thanks for the help.
Regards.
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Control and Automation Engineer
Gentoo Foundation Member
Em Quinta-feira 07 Janeiro 2010, às 22:11:10, Neil Bothwick escreveu:
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 18:05:14 -0200, Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas wrote:
> > And I'm attaching tarball and ebuild (80KiB ~) and I would appreciate
> > if someone test it and give me a feedback :)
>
> % kportagetray
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/bin/kportagetray", line 68, in
> KPortageTray_MainWindow = KPT_MainWindow()
> File "/usr/share/apps/KPortageTray/KPT_MainWindow.py", line 69, in
> __init__ self._dbus = KPT_dbus()
> File "/usr/share/apps/KPortageTray/KPT_dbus.py", line 38, in __init__
> self._notify =
> dbus.SessionBus().get_object('org.kde.VisualNotifications',
> '/VisualNotifications') File
> "/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 244, in get_object
> follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes) File
> "/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 241, in
> __init__ self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name) File
> "/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 183, in
> activate_name_owner self.start_service_by_name(bus_name) File
> "/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 281, in
> start_service_by_name 'su', (bus_name, flags))) File
> "/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 622, in
> call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
> org.kde.VisualNotifications was not provided by any .service files
>
> Sorry :(
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] New application: app-portage/kportagetray
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:40 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote: > 2) The idea of end-users installing ebuilds themselves from an unknown > individual delivered through an email list is about as insane as it > could be. Just what I need is an untested ebuild that I install and > build myself stealing everything on my system. "Note that if I can get you to "su and say" something just by asking, you have a very serious security problem on your system and you should look into it." -- Paul Vixie, vixie-cron 3.0.1 installation notes the problem there would be with the end-user, not malicious-Ronan, IMHO > As a user and someone who cares about Gentoo I'd like to see ALL > ebuilds banned from this list. Negatory Ghost Rider! Ban ebuild attachments, then someone says "install this ebuild I wrote from http://root.kit.org/die.ebuild ..." then what? Ban links too? Gentoo is about learning (and lots of other stuff too) so if it takes your system to crash before you learn not to run untrusted executables, then that's what it takes. I have pretty darn good and regular backups, but only because I once fsck'd my filesystem without them, and I know how much of a pain that is. > Only takes one bad seed and one > not-very knowledgeable user like me to give the distro a black eye it > doesn't deserve. You know enough not to try it though. It's also easy for someone to reply with a BIG FAT WARNING stating as much to others. I think this distro has enough bruises that it's toughened up a bit :) Any by the stage a user can make an overlay, manifest, etc. I think they know a little bit already. > Yeah, I'm paranoid... It's ok to be paranoid, they really _are_ out to get you ;) But seriously: warn people, sure. Learn about security & ebuilds, sure. Ban them? Not such a good idea IMHO :) > Cheers, > Mark catchya, -- Iain Buchanan Ralph's Observation: It is a mistake to let any mechanical object realise that you are in a hurry.
Re: [gentoo-user] problem with "aqua" keyword
Xi Shen wrote: hi, i ran into a strange problem. i am using gentoo 2008 amd64, with kde 4.3. i want to try the "aqua" gui with kde desktop. so i enabled "aqua" use flag, but when emerge kdelibs, it requires a tool named "install_name_tool" which is a apple dev tool. so i think i could get this tool by emerging gcc-apple. but gcc-apple requires "x64-macos". do i have to change my CHOST to "x64-macos" and rebuild my whole system? is it possible to emerge the gcc-apple with my linux CHOST? This was posted a bit ago about this issue: This is because Aqua/Carbon are Mac OS X-specific UI libraries - unless you're running Gentoo/Darwin (aka Gentoo on Mac OS X), you're not going to have the necessary UI libraries for the compiling packages to link against, unless you've managed to extract the Carbon libraries intact from a Mac system (no idea if that's even possible...) HTH- James Maybe that will help. Sound like you need a Mac for that. I dunno. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] New application: app-portage/kportagetray
Sorry,
Can you check if knotify is also installed please?
Regards,
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Control and Automation Engineer
Gentoo Foundation Member
Em Quinta-feira 07 Janeiro 2010, às 22:11:10, Neil Bothwick escreveu:
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 18:05:14 -0200, Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas wrote:
> > And I'm attaching tarball and ebuild (80KiB ~) and I would appreciate
> > if someone test it and give me a feedback :)
>
> % kportagetray
> Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "/usr/bin/kportagetray", line 68, in
> KPortageTray_MainWindow = KPT_MainWindow()
> File "/usr/share/apps/KPortageTray/KPT_MainWindow.py", line 69, in
> __init__ self._dbus = KPT_dbus()
> File "/usr/share/apps/KPortageTray/KPT_dbus.py", line 38, in __init__
> self._notify =
> dbus.SessionBus().get_object('org.kde.VisualNotifications',
> '/VisualNotifications') File
> "/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 244, in get_object
> follow_name_owner_changes=follow_name_owner_changes) File
> "/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/proxies.py", line 241, in
> __init__ self._named_service = conn.activate_name_owner(bus_name) File
> "/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 183, in
> activate_name_owner self.start_service_by_name(bus_name) File
> "/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/bus.py", line 281, in
> start_service_by_name 'su', (bus_name, flags))) File
> "/usr/lib64/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/connection.py", line 622, in
> call_blocking message, timeout) dbus.exceptions.DBusException:
> org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name
> org.kde.VisualNotifications was not provided by any .service files
>
> Sorry :(
>
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[gentoo-user] Re: [micro HOWTO] Adding custom mount options for gnome-mounted drives
On 01/07/2010 07:12 PM, Iain Buchanan wrote: On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 16:14 -0800, walt wrote: gconftool-2 --type list --list-type=string \ --set /system/storage/default_options/ext2/mount_options \ "[noatime,nodiratime]" nice, thanks! Ooops, typo! That first line should have had another '=' after the --type flag, like this: gconftool-2 --type=list --list-type=string \ --set /system/storage/default_options/ext2/mount_options \ "[noatime,nodiratime]" At least, that syntax worked for me. Hope it works for you. I'm still wondering why there isn't another '=' after the --set flag, too :o/
Re: [gentoo-user] New application: app-portage/kportagetray
On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas < roni...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello fellows, > > I already sent this e-mail to Dev ML but I decided to sent it also to user > ML > to get more feedbacks. > > I started to code a new application to make some daily tasks easier with > portage. It is called KPortageTray. > > It is coded with PyKDE, so, unfortunately (or fortunately :D) you will need > PyKDE and KDE to install it. > I'm not sure if I make something that will need portage 2.2, if anyone can > tell me I'll appreciate. > > By now, I just implemented some very common tasks like: > > - Sync portage tree; > - Upgrade world set; > - Check if there are upgrade available; >* I'll make something to schedule it in future versions. > - Upgrade portage version; > - Run etc-update, revdep-rebuild or execute dep-clean at the system. > > I used a very simple approach: for every actions that the user must see the > output, a script execute a konsole with kdesu. With this way, isn't > necessary > to run the application as root which, in my opinion, is better. > > This application can save some typing with daily tasks, but it will never > substitute CLI, since some complicate things is very hard to handle. For > example, if there are some Block, KPortageTray warning the user, show the > output from emerge and let the user resolve it. But, since it is very > uncommon > to have a Block, this software can really save some time. > > I make some tests but it is at the beginning of development, so I'm asking > for > help do add new features / give ideas / report bugs. If the community like > it, > maybe I'll open a git repository somewhere. > > I took three screenshots: > > http://yfrog.com/7akportagetray01p > http://yfrog.com/11kportagetray02p > http://yfrog.com/b6kportagetray03p > > And I'm attaching tarball and ebuild (80KiB ~) and I would appreciate if > someone test it and give me a feedback :) > This looks pretty awesome - I'm not in a position to test it right now, but can this be thrown in an overlay so I can get to it in the future easily, and get the updates easily? Also, have you thought about (optional) support for/integration with eix? I would love to have this just popup a notification that I can click which will show me the (important) info - aka the database diff - from the latest eix-syncs... -James > Regards, > -- > Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas > Control and Automation Engineer > Gentoo Foundation Member >
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge @preserved-rebuild EVEN IF some needed package is masked
On Friday 08 January 2010 00:25:03 Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Thursday 07 January 2010 21:19:27 Stroller wrote: > >> I hope my above statements don't sound nasty, but you want 3.5, Alan > >> [1] wants KDE 4. The various developers upstream of you and Alan - > >> i.e. both KDE and Gentoo - don't have time to work on both. So they > >> have each chosen where to spend their time, and that's on KDE 4. > > > > [snip] > > > >> [1] Some hypothetical Alan who does not really exist. > > > > Ahem > > > > I *think*, but not sure, that I feel offended by being mythicalisized[2] > > > > [2] Some hypothetical word that truly does not exist. > > > > Lucky for us, the Red hats and SuSEs of this world will maintain at least > > critical security flaws in KDE-3.5 that Gentoo users can import into kde- > > sunset: those distros shipped KDE-3.5 and are still actively supported > > Should we also assume that Redhat and SuSE is doing that support, not > KDE who is the one that dropped KDE 3.5 ?? Yes, that's reasonable. RH shipped KDE-3.5 with fully supported versions of RHEL, and those versions are still current. So just like RH backport useful kernel code into their shipped versions, we can expect RH to at least deal with critical security bugs. They likely will not add new features to KDE-3.5 though. There's no inside info here, I'm just stating the way these things usually work out there in the marketplace -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] New application: app-portage/kportagetray
Hello James, That is my goal at the future. Let it be each day more integrated with emerge and its tools. By now, I just want to see if gentoo community has interest in my idea before search for some place to host it and put the ebuild at an overlay. And you are right, I do not recommend for non-experience users to be using this kind of software. Regards, -- Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas Control and Automation Engineer Gentoo Foundation Member Em Sexta-feira 08 Janeiro 2010, às 02:44:04, James Ausmus escreveu: > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas < > > roni...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello fellows, > > > > I already sent this e-mail to Dev ML but I decided to sent it also to > > user ML > > to get more feedbacks. > > > > I started to code a new application to make some daily tasks easier with > > portage. It is called KPortageTray. > > > > It is coded with PyKDE, so, unfortunately (or fortunately :D) you will > > need PyKDE and KDE to install it. > > I'm not sure if I make something that will need portage 2.2, if anyone > > can tell me I'll appreciate. > > > > By now, I just implemented some very common tasks like: > > > > - Sync portage tree; > > - Upgrade world set; > > - Check if there are upgrade available; > >* I'll make something to schedule it in future versions. > > - Upgrade portage version; > > - Run etc-update, revdep-rebuild or execute dep-clean at the system. > > > > I used a very simple approach: for every actions that the user must see > > the output, a script execute a konsole with kdesu. With this way, isn't > > necessary > > to run the application as root which, in my opinion, is better. > > > > This application can save some typing with daily tasks, but it will never > > substitute CLI, since some complicate things is very hard to handle. For > > example, if there are some Block, KPortageTray warning the user, show the > > output from emerge and let the user resolve it. But, since it is very > > uncommon > > to have a Block, this software can really save some time. > > > > I make some tests but it is at the beginning of development, so I'm > > asking for > > help do add new features / give ideas / report bugs. If the community > > like it, > > maybe I'll open a git repository somewhere. > > > > I took three screenshots: > > > > http://yfrog.com/7akportagetray01p > > http://yfrog.com/11kportagetray02p > > http://yfrog.com/b6kportagetray03p > > > > And I'm attaching tarball and ebuild (80KiB ~) and I would appreciate if > > someone test it and give me a feedback :) > > This looks pretty awesome - I'm not in a position to test it right now, but > can this be thrown in an overlay so I can get to it in the future easily, > and get the updates easily? > > Also, have you thought about (optional) support for/integration with eix? I > would love to have this just popup a notification that I can click which > will show me the (important) info - aka the database diff - from the latest > eix-syncs... > > -James > > > Regards, > > -- > > Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas > > Control and Automation Engineer > > Gentoo Foundation Member > signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] New application: app-portage/kportagetray
On Fri, 08 Jan 2010 07:55:47 +0100, Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas wrote: Hello James, That is my goal at the future. Let it be each day more integrated with emerge and its tools. By now, I just want to see if gentoo community has interest in my idea before search for some place to host it and put the ebuild at an overlay. And you are right, I do not recommend for non-experience users to be using this kind of software. Regards, Well, if it wasn't depending on various kde applications and libraries, I definitely think there's a fairly big market for this... I certainly would be more than glad to use it :-) -- Zeerak
Re: [gentoo-user] New application: app-portage/kportagetray
On 8 Jan 2010, at 04:44, James Ausmus wrote: ... This looks pretty awesome - I'm not in a position to test it right now, but can this be thrown in an overlay so I can get to it in the future easily, and get the updates easily? +1 ... I would love to have this just popup a notification that I can click which will show me the (important) info - aka the database diff - from the latest eix-syncs... What is this wonderful feature of eix that I have been missing out on, please? Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] New application: app-portage/kportagetray
On 7 Jan 2010, at 20:05, Ronan Arraes Jardim Chagas wrote: ... I started to code a new application to make some daily tasks easier with portage. It is called KPortageTray. ... I took three screenshots: http://yfrog.com/7akportagetray01p http://yfrog.com/11kportagetray02p http://yfrog.com/b6kportagetray03p Looks great. Is it possible to run it NOT maximised? I assume so, in which case your screeshots don't really do justice to your app. Stroller.
