[gentoo-user] Shhhhhhh... it's not a tax; it's actually a subsidy

2010-03-24 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 07:17:30PM +, Mick wrote

 TBH, I wouldn't pay money for it but as many OEM impose a MSWindows tax on 
 all of us I had no other option if I wanted to buy this particular laptop.

  Shhh... it's not a tax; it's actually.  The reason that so many
OEMs load up their new machines with craplets is because they get paid
good money by the publishers of these apps to load them on.  That in
turn reduces the price of a PC by more than what an OEM Windows licence
costs.


-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help

2010-03-24 Thread Keith Dart
=== On Sat, 03/20, Neil Bothwick wrote: ===
 r maybe he needs help turning off the white text on a white background
 setting :)

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This is the longest thread about nothing that I have ever seen. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help

2010-03-24 Thread Hazen Valliant-Saunders
Score 2 points for mr. obvious. :D

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz wrote:

 === On Sat, 03/20, Neil Bothwick wrote: ===
  r maybe he needs help turning off the white text on a white background
  setting :)

 ===

 This is the longest thread about nothing that I have ever seen.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help

2010-03-24 Thread Dale

Keith Dart wrote:

=== On Sat, 03/20, Neil Bothwick wrote: ===
   

r maybe he needs help turning off the white text on a white background
setting :)
 

===

This is the longest thread about nothing that I have ever seen.


-- Keith Dart

   


You ain't been around here to long then have ya?   lol  We have had 
longer.  Sometimes we just need someone to send a message with 
unsubscribe in it to start something.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help

2010-03-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 24 March 2010 21:19:04 Dale wrote:
 Keith Dart wrote:
  === On Sat, 03/20, Neil Bothwick wrote: ===
  
  r maybe he needs help turning off the white text on a white background
  setting :)
  
  ===
  
  This is the longest thread about nothing that I have ever seen.
  
  
  -- Keith Dart
 
 You ain't been around here to long then have ya?   lol  We have had
 longer.  Sometimes we just need someone to send a message with
 unsubscribe in it to start something.

And Dale himself holds the record for starting the longest email thread ever 
outside of UseNet.

It started with ... wait for it ... Xorg and hal!

It makes me just a little bit sad to see that the next version of Xorg (ebuild 
sitting in some testing proving ground somewhere) will not use hal at all. 
What will we talk about now on slow news days?

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alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help

2010-03-24 Thread Alex Schuster
Alan McKinnon asks:

 And Dale himself holds the record for starting the longest email thread
 ever outside of UseNet.
 
 It started with ... wait for it ... Xorg and hal!
 
 It makes me just a little bit sad to see that the next version of Xorg
 (ebuild sitting in some testing proving ground somewhere) will not use
 hal at all. What will we talk about now on slow news days?

I suggest KDE4. It's really getting on my nerves at the moment. But I 
don't want to quit using it either, now that I arranged my desktops and 
activities and plasmoids and stuff. Isn't KDE 4.5 about to be there soon 
and fix all those tings not running? No? 

Wonko



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help

2010-03-24 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 09:16:12PM +0100, Alex Schuster wrote:
 Alan McKinnon asks:
 
  And Dale himself holds the record for starting the longest email thread
  ever outside of UseNet.
  
  It started with ... wait for it ... Xorg and hal!
  
  It makes me just a little bit sad to see that the next version of Xorg
  (ebuild sitting in some testing proving ground somewhere) will not use
  hal at all. What will we talk about now on slow news days?
 
 I suggest KDE4. It's really getting on my nerves at the moment. But I 
 don't want to quit using it either, now that I arranged my desktops and 
 activities and plasmoids and stuff. Isn't KDE 4.5 about to be there soon 
 and fix all those tings not running? No? 
 
   Wonko
 

+1 for KDE4 ;)

I'm guessing 4.5 will fix some, not all, things and bring you a world of new 
flaws to explore! Consider yourself Dr. Livingstone in KDE world ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help

2010-03-24 Thread Dale

Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Wednesday 24 March 2010 21:19:04 Dale wrote:
   

Keith Dart wrote:
 

=== On Sat, 03/20, Neil Bothwick wrote: ===

   

r maybe he needs help turning off the white text on a white background
setting :)
 

===

This is the longest thread about nothing that I have ever seen.


-- Keith Dart
   

You ain't been around here to long then have ya?   lol  We have had
longer.  Sometimes we just need someone to send a message with
unsubscribe in it to start something.
 

And Dale himself holds the record for starting the longest email thread ever
outside of UseNet.

It started with ... wait for it ... Xorg and hal!

It makes me just a little bit sad to see that the next version of Xorg (ebuild
sitting in some testing proving ground somewhere) will not use hal at all.
What will we talk about now on slow news days?

   


Then it will be policykit, devicekit or whatever the new name will be.

Since someone else mentioned KDE4, I do look forward to 4.5.  I'm hoping 
for some fixes too.  I want the desktop slideshow to be sequential 
instead of random.  I have a lot of pics that are taken to be a 
slideshow but if done in random order, they make no sense at all.   All 
I need is a little check box to disable the random part.


Maybe one day everything will be perfect.  Dale holds his breath 

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help

2010-03-24 Thread Alex Schuster
Dale writes:

 Since someone else mentioned KDE4, I do look forward to 4.5.  I'm
 hoping for some fixes too.  I want the desktop slideshow to be
 sequential instead of random.  I have a lot of pics that are taken to
 be a slideshow but if done in random order, they make no sense at all.
 All I need is a little check box to disable the random part.

Is there a bug report files already?

 Maybe one day everything will be perfect.  Dale holds his breath 

But then KDE 4 will be outdated already and they are doing KDE 5. I heard 
it will have some really cool features and gizmos and stuff, you know!

Wonko



[gentoo-user] IntelĀ® Trusted Execution Technology - INTEL_TXT

2010-03-24 Thread Mick
Is INTEL_TXT needed on a kernel for a laptop?

The kernel (2.6.32-r7) advises: 

  If you are unsure as to whether this is required, answer N.

Although I understand the general principle of this, I don't know what impact 
it may have on day to day terms.

(A healthy dosage or paranoia is OK, but on the other hand I don't even run 
SELinux here.)

Have you tried it and if yes what did you notice?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome fails to install with error 2

2010-03-24 Thread David Mehler
Hello,
I don't know what error 2 means and the build.log wasn't of much help.
What was of greater help was this link:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/278292

I didn't get the error specifically about libxml2 as this seems to
indicate. I tried the fix however.
Once I install libxml2 gnome completed installation. I think the 2.6
dependency list might need updating.
Thanks.
Dave.



On 3/23/10, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 03/23/2010 02:13 PM, David Mehler wrote:
 Hello,
 I'm running gentoo and am trying to install gnome 2.26 i believe is
 the version. I get considerably far in to the process then the install
 dies with an error 2 at
 gnome-extras/gnome-user-docs-gnome-accessibility guide and as i say
 error 2. I'd like to correct this, suggestions appreciated.

 Maybe someone can tell us what error 2 means, I don't know.  In general,
 when any package won't finish building the most import info is in the
 build.log, in this particular instance, here:
 /var/tmp/portage/gnome-extra/gnome-user-docs-2.26.2/temp/build.log

 Look through that build.log for words like 'error' 'not found' 'denied'
 and any others that imply failure,






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help

2010-03-24 Thread Dale

Alex Schuster wrote:

Dale writes:

   

Since someone else mentioned KDE4, I do look forward to 4.5.  I'm
hoping for some fixes too.  I want the desktop slideshow to be
sequential instead of random.  I have a lot of pics that are taken to
be a slideshow but if done in random order, they make no sense at all.
All I need is a little check box to disable the random part.
 

Is there a bug report files already?
   


I haven't filed one.  I'm just hoping someone has.  Am I the only person 
that would take pictures intending them to be a slide show?  I know I'm 
different but surely not that much.   ;-)


   

Maybe one day everything will be perfect.  Dale holds his breath
 

But then KDE 4 will be outdated already and they are doing KDE 5. I heard
it will have some really cool features and gizmos and stuff, you know!

Wonko

   


I'm hoping that when they start releasing KDE5, they support KDE4 
longer.  The dropping of KDE3 was way to soon.  My brother wants to use 
Linux but I don't want to install KDE3 since it is not supported from a 
security point of view but I also don't want to install KDE4 which is 
still pretty buggy.  That said, I have been using KDE4 for several 
weeks.  My slide show is the only issue that I have yet to work around.  
I plan to install Mandriva for him.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Intel(R) Trusted Execution Technology - INTEL_TXT

2010-03-24 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is INTEL_TXT needed on a kernel for a laptop?

 The kernel (2.6.32-r7) advises:

  If you are unsure as to whether this is required, answer N.

 Although I understand the general principle of this, I don't know what impact
 it may have on day to day terms.

I never heard of it before, but there's an extensive description in
the kernel docs:

/usr/src/linux/Documentation/intel_txt.txt

It sounds like it's a way of the BIOS authenticating your kernel
hasn't been altered before allowing the system to boot. Maybe I'm
misunderstanding.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help

2010-03-24 Thread Michael Edenfield
On Wednesday 24 March 2010 15:41:57 Alan McKinnon wrote:

 It makes me just a little bit sad to see that the next version of Xorg
 (ebuild sitting in some testing proving ground somewhere) will not use hal
 at all. What will we talk about now on slow news days?

$5 says Dale won't get devicekit working either.

--K



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help

2010-03-24 Thread Zeerak Mustafa Waseem
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 07:50:08PM -0400, Michael Edenfield wrote:
 On Wednesday 24 March 2010 15:41:57 Alan McKinnon wrote:
 
  It makes me just a little bit sad to see that the next version of Xorg
  (ebuild sitting in some testing proving ground somewhere) will not use hal
  at all. What will we talk about now on slow news days?
 
 $5 says Dale won't get devicekit working either.
 
 --K
 

The problem about that one is that I doubt that anyone will bet against you ;)

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[gentoo-user] Kmail marking messages Read by itself

2010-03-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list,

I've been noticing recently that the messages I read in Kmail are fewer 
than those it's fetched from my ISP's POP3 server, according to the 
status line at the bottom of the window. I couldn't quite put my finger 
on any specific problem - until now, when I had just finished reading the 
new e-mails in this list and clicked on Check Mail before going to bed. 
I saw the unread-message counter go to 1 in this same list's folder, 
then back to blank without any action by me. I now have no idea which of 
the 4126 e-mails has just arrived, and I don't intend to search for it!

Has anyone else here seen this problem? Bugzilla has nothing. This is 
kmail 1.13.1 with kde-4.4.1 on an ~amd64 box.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: help

2010-03-24 Thread Dale

Michael Edenfield wrote:

On Wednesday 24 March 2010 15:41:57 Alan McKinnon wrote:

   

It makes me just a little bit sad to see that the next version of Xorg
(ebuild sitting in some testing proving ground somewhere) will not use hal
at all. What will we talk about now on slow news days?
 

$5 says Dale won't get devicekit working either.

--K

   


But I will try.  Funny thing is, hal works for everything BUT xorg.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-)