[gentoo-user] [OT] Looking for a different way to rsync (or similiar)
Hi, I have to old (technical identical) harddisks formerly used for backup purposes. They contain each a different set of files -- the partitioning is identical. Both disks are nearly filled. The harddisk in my PC has more free space (they contain a totally different system than the old disks!) Rsyncing both disks against each other so they will conatin the same set of files afterwards may fail, cause the free space is limited. Is there a way to rsync old disk A against old disk B *BUT* store the files in question on the disk in my PC? (and do the same thing but with disk A and B reveresed?). The result of this hassle should be one old disk containing all (needed) files of the sum of A and B with not needed files removed by hand *after* the rsyncing. Or there a totally different way to acchieve this? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] glew/glewmx or what?
Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de [11-07-31 21:04]: Hi, Am Sonntag, 31. Juli 2011, 17:09:08 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, to compile the Mitsuba renderer I need glewmx (whatever this means). Postings on the net let me believe, that glewmx is a part of glew, which in turn is a gentoo package. But I found no USE-flags telling the package to build glew with glewmx...or I misunderstood the whole thing ... Can someone please shed some wise light on my shadowed mind so I will be able to embrace this holy glewmx love and peace? ;) --- very big!!! you could add -DGLEW_MX to your CFLAGS and emerge glew with this setting. Better way is to copy the glew ebuild to your local overlay and fix it to compile with this flag set. CFLAGS.EXTRA=-DGLEW_MX added to pkg_setup() might do the job. Thank you very much for any enlightment! Best regards mcc Regards, Michael Hi Michael, thank you for your help ! :) Unfortunately this seems only the half of the way to go... The installation process only install libglew...and leave libglewmx untouched. ... Any idea how to convince the package to install everything? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?
On Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:02:22 AM Florian Philipp wrote: @system used to contain portage. It doesn't by default, anymore. If you do `emerge -pv --depclean`, portage should try to remove itself. Just add it to @world by doing `emerge --noreplace portage` It doesn't try this on my system. Portage is installed, but not in world: ** eve ~ # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep portage app-portage/eix app-portage/gentoolkit app-portage/layman eve ~ # eix -e portage [I] sys-apps/portage Installed versions: 2.1.10.3(08:42:46 PM 07/30/2011)(ipc less -build - doc -epydoc -linguas_pl -python2 -python3 -selinux) Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/index.xml Description: Portage is the package management and distribution system for Gentoo ** (I removed a few lines from the eix-output to make it better readable) And emerge -pv --depclean ends with: ** No packages selected for removal by depclean Packages installed: 1090 Packages in world:124 Packages in system: 45 Required packages:1090 Number to remove: 0 ** Am I missing something here? -- Joost
Re: [gentoo-user] make oldconfig necessary?
On Sunday, July 31 at 21:23 (-0500), Jeremy McSpadden said: Better to run make oldconfig. It merges the changes. -- Jeremy McSpadden def...@uberpenguin.net On Jul 31, 2011, at 9:06 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Let's say I have a .config from an older kernel version (for example, 2.6.38), and now I want to install a newer kernel (let's say, 3.0). Is it necessary to first do `make oldconfig`, or is it safe to go directly to `make menuconfig`? Agreed, although it should be possible to go straight to menuconfig, what I think that does is basically says 'n' to all the changes, and you never get to see what you said no to. (Unless you have a *very* good memory and peruse though everything in menuconfig (but that isn't entirely correct either since some menu options will not be visible since you implicitly said not to them). Usually, I just do an oldconfig after a kernel upgrade. If I also need to explicitly enable/disable something, then i do an oldconfig followed by a menuconfig.
Re: [gentoo-user] make oldconfig necessary?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 09:06:17 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote about [gentoo-user] make oldconfig necessary?: Let's say I have a .config from an older kernel version (for example, 2.6.38), and now I want to install a newer kernel (let's say, 3.0). Is it necessary to first do `make oldconfig`, or is it safe to go directly to `make menuconfig`? For some years now, make menuconfig has performed a silent make oldconfig before it brings up the menu. I stopped using make oldconfig in about 2007, after I was confident that the change to make menuconfig was working. - -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] == dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.17 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk42lHgACgkQRQ2Fs59Psv8qGwCeMv0fJ2mF8WcPm620U3m2iM5Y usYAnR2lUFi2jgBCmLDOIqAEZ22tzM7m =uV/i -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] portage no longer in world?
On Monday, August 1 at 12:41 (+0200), Joost Roeleveld said: On Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:02:22 AM Florian Philipp wrote: @system used to contain portage. It doesn't by default, anymore. If you do `emerge -pv --depclean`, portage should try to remove itself. Just add it to @world by doing `emerge --noreplace portage` It doesn't try this on my system Yeah, I don't think that statement was entirely accurate. Deplean normally will not try to remove portage, because it satisfies the virtual/package-manager requirement, which is in @system. If, however, you have portage and another package satisfying virtual/package-manager installed, and the other package was in your world file, but portage wasn't then depclean *would* remove portage. This is the recent behavior change, which is why some people were surprised suddenly when nano or less or insert_your_favorite_virtual_here was suddenly wanting to get unmerged by --depclean.
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Looking for a different way to rsync (or similiar)
meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: Hi, I have to old (technical identical) harddisks formerly used for backup purposes. They contain each a different set of files -- the partitioning is identical. Both disks are nearly filled. The harddisk in my PC has more free space (they contain a totally different system than the old disks!) You might be able to make use of rsync's flag: --compare-dest=DIR I've done something like this way back but not sure the flag above is the correct one. However rsync does have the capability to compare more than one heirarchy before moving data... just not sure that is the proper flag. Try `man rsync' and see if that looks like it will help? If that isn't clear... then I recommend the rsync list on gmane. I've found many times, that list is very helpful.
[gentoo-user] Choosing wired or wireless at boot time
Hello. I have two network interfaces on my notebook: one wired (eth0) and one wireless (wlan0). I am running ~amd64 on it. I want two gentoo boot entries in grub: one (the default softlevel) which starts wired networking (and not wireless), and another that starts the wireless network (and not the wired). For the later I have created a new softlevel named wireless, with all services from default, except net.eth0. The default has net.eth0, but not net.wlan0. Booting with default works as expected, but booting with wireless starts both interfaces. In /etc/rc.conf I have the lines: rc_depend_strict=NO rc_hotplug=!net* Any clues? Romildo
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Looking for a different way to rsync (or similiar)
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com [11-08-01 15:12]: meino.cra...@gmx.de writes: Hi, I have to old (technical identical) harddisks formerly used for backup purposes. They contain each a different set of files -- the partitioning is identical. Both disks are nearly filled. The harddisk in my PC has more free space (they contain a totally different system than the old disks!) You might be able to make use of rsync's flag: --compare-dest=DIR I've done something like this way back but not sure the flag above is the correct one. However rsync does have the capability to compare more than one heirarchy before moving data... just not sure that is the proper flag. Try `man rsync' and see if that looks like it will help? If that isn't clear... then I recommend the rsync list on gmane. I've found many times, that list is very helpful. Hi Harry, thank you very much for your help and infos! :) Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] Re: make oldconfig necessary?
On 2011-08-01, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Let's say I have a .config from an older kernel version (for example, 2.6.38), and now I want to install a newer kernel (let's say, 3.0). Is it necessary to first do `make oldconfig`, or is it safe to go directly to `make menuconfig`? It's always safe to do 'make menuconfig', and always has been (at least since the 0.97 days when I started running Linux). You just have to select all the options correctly. All that 'make oldconfig' does is start you out with something as close to your old kernel configuration as possible. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! CHUBBY CHECKER just at had a CHICKEN SANDWICH in gmail.comdowntown DULUTH!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make oldconfig necessary?
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 21:09, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-08-01, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Let's say I have a .config from an older kernel version (for example, 2.6.38), and now I want to install a newer kernel (let's say, 3.0). Is it necessary to first do `make oldconfig`, or is it safe to go directly to `make menuconfig`? It's always safe to do 'make menuconfig', and always has been (at least since the 0.97 days when I started running Linux). You just have to select all the options correctly. All that 'make oldconfig' does is start you out with something as close to your old kernel configuration as possible. Sorry for the misunderstanding, my bad. What I meant was: If I want a kernel config as close as possible to the older kernel, can I just use `make menuconfig`, or do I have to first run `make oldconfig`. Again, sorry for the confusion. Rgds, -- Pandu E Poluan ~ IT Optimizer ~ • Blog : http://pepoluan.tumblr.com • Linked-In : http://id.linkedin.com/in/pepoluan
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make oldconfig necessary?
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:09 AM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-08-01, Pandu Poluan pa...@poluan.info wrote: Let's say I have a .config from an older kernel version (for example, 2.6.38), and now I want to install a newer kernel (let's say, 3.0). Is it necessary to first do `make oldconfig`, or is it safe to go directly to `make menuconfig`? It's always safe to do 'make menuconfig', and always has been (at least since the 0.97 days when I started running Linux). You just have to select all the options correctly. All that 'make oldconfig' does is start you out with something as close to your old kernel configuration as possible. Which is an incredible timesaver...I hope I never forget to keep the /proc/config.gz option enabled again. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] jbd2 keeps spinning my disk up
On Sunday 31 July 2011 22:40:28 Florian Philipp wrote: Does laptop-mode help? app-laptop/laptop-mode-tools I hadn't thought of that - thanks. I'll try it and see. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] make oldconfig necessary?
On 7/31/2011 7:06 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Let's say I have a .config from an older kernel version (for example, 2.6.38), and now I want to install a newer kernel (let's say, 3.0). Is it necessary to first do `make oldconfig`, or is it safe to go directly to `make menuconfig`? Necessary to run make old config? No. Easier and simpler most of the time? Yes. I like to make a fresh kernel from scratch every year or so without any previous settings to keep the cruft out. I last did it for my vbox image figuring I was going to need to very little hardware support so starting fresh made sense. kashani
Re: [gentoo-user] r8169 unable to apply firmware patch
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: I remembered that i also had started having a problem with my intel wireless card, and it looks like both the intel and realtek firmwares are now in linux-firmware so try emerging that. That fixed it. Thank you very much. I'm a little puzzled because I don't get the unable to apply firmware patch messages on my desktop which also uses the r8169 driver and doesn't have linux-firmware installed. AFAIR the r8169 driver supports multiple chipsets, and they don't all need the firmware file. So perhaps your two systems are not using exactly the same chipset in the ethernet card... On my desktop, I would get that warning, but it would work perfectly fine anyway even without it being present. According to Google results, the general opinion is that r8169 sucks and seems like almost everybody has problems with it. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, swap, caching, other unusual uses
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Something that's been tickling my brain for a couple years now, and you guys are probably the right ones to ask. I haven't dropped coin for an SSD (yet), but I was wondering about uses for them beyond using them for / or /home. 1) What about sitting swap (partition, file, whatever) on the SSD? Presumably, in scenarios where expanding the RAM in a system is prohibitively expensive, an SSD could reduce the impact of swap thrash. Swap on flash memory is faster than on disk, but it is still swap and still sucks. :) There's no reason why it won't work, but I doubt it'll have as much of a positive impact as you're hoping. In fact depending on the SSD some don't cope with a storm of tiny simultaneous random reads and writes and might block even worse than a fast HDD. IMO. 2) While my system rarely goes above using 2-2.5GB of RAM, I enjoy having 6-8GB of RAM, just for the file cache. Of course, I lose that when I reboot; the cache needs to be repopulated. Has there been any work in the kernel for doing things like Vista/Win7's ReadyBoost? ReadyBoost has a ridiculous limit to only using 4GB of a flash drive, but I'd think that an 80GB SSD would be a massive performance improvement. I believe DM-Cache provides this kind of functionality in Linux. I've never tried it. You can also buy a hybrid hard drive, it is a traditional HDD with SSD built-in for caching. That is transparent to the operating system.
Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, swap, caching, other unusual uses
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:18 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: Something that's been tickling my brain for a couple years now, and you guys are probably the right ones to ask. I haven't dropped coin for an SSD (yet), but I was wondering about uses for them beyond using them for / or /home. 1) What about sitting swap (partition, file, whatever) on the SSD? Presumably, in scenarios where expanding the RAM in a system is prohibitively expensive, an SSD could reduce the impact of swap thrash. Swap on flash memory is faster than on disk, but it is still swap and still sucks. :) There's no reason why it won't work, but I doubt it'll have as much of a positive impact as you're hoping. In fact depending on the SSD some don't cope with a storm of tiny simultaneous random reads and writes and might block even worse than a fast HDD. IMO. Yeah, true; the write caching and queuing of some of the lower-end drives are crap, from what I've heard. The primary reason I haven't spent on and SSD yet is while I could afford a low-end drive, I can't afford a smaller-size drive that's a good implementation. 2) While my system rarely goes above using 2-2.5GB of RAM, I enjoy having 6-8GB of RAM, just for the file cache. Of course, I lose that when I reboot; the cache needs to be repopulated. Has there been any work in the kernel for doing things like Vista/Win7's ReadyBoost? ReadyBoost has a ridiculous limit to only using 4GB of a flash drive, but I'd think that an 80GB SSD would be a massive performance improvement. I believe DM-Cache provides this kind of functionality in Linux. I've never tried it. That's *exactly* the kind of thing I was hoping was being worked on. I hadn't heard anyone was actually *doing* it. You can also buy a hybrid hard drive, it is a traditional HDD with SSD built-in for caching. That is transparent to the operating system. They've sounded interesting, yes. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
- Original Message - From: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced? On 2011-07-29, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 10:41 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Openoffice being replaced? On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 9:13 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I noticed this today: The following mask changes are necessary to proceed: #required by @selected, required by @world (argument) # /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Tom Chv??tal scarab...@gentoo.org (27 Jul 2011) # Old replaced packages. Will be removed in 30 days. # app-office/openoffice - app-office/libreoffice # app-office/openoffice-bin - app-office/libreoffice-bin # app-text/wpd2sxw - app-text/wpd2odt =app-office/openoffice-3.2.1-r1 Does this mean that libreoffice is going to replace OOo in the tree? Looks like it. It has already replaced it on all my computers. Gentoo's OpenOffice has included the go-oo patches for a long time anyway, which were the big thing changed about LibreOffice [...] I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) I wouldn't. While LibreOffice may have some advances at the moment, I'm still interested in following main-line OOo - now being setting under Apache. So you don't use the gentoo OOo ebuilds? AFAICT, they're a lot closer to being libreoffice than to being mainline OOo. Please do not force us to convert from OO to LO. If you use the gentoo ebuilds, then you mostly already have. Gentoo OOo = OOo + Go-Oo LibreOffice = OOo + Go-Oo There's other stuff in LibreOffice too. But I'd still much rather be using OOo than LibreOffice. And I'd rather drop the GO-OOo patches, but I don't think there's an option for that in emerge. I have no problem with separate installs for each, but there will be those (like me) that want the official OO installs. But, what you get using the Gentoo ebuilds isn't the official OOo install. If you're running official OOo, then youre not using the Gentoo ebuilds, so why do you care what those ebuilds produce? One of the things I like about LibreOffice is the reduced dependancies. Even with the gnome USE flag turned off, OOo pulls in some big gnome dependancies that I don't want. WTF does an office suite need libgweather? And I'm sure the Apache OO guys will fix that in due time as well. All I'm saying is that I want to stick with the Apache OOo in the long run, not LibreOffice. Users can switch to the LibreOffice install if they desire, but there's no reason for force those that want to continue with OOo to move over. Ben
[gentoo-user] Re: Oracle 11g installer crash
Hi, i've followed that guide http://vh4x0r.wordpress.com/2010/08/17/installing-oracle-11g-on-linux-amd64/ in order to install oracle 11g but i get the following error when running: ./runInstaller: line 254: /apphome/oracle/database/install/.oui: cannot execute binary file These are the downloaded files: Linux.zseries64_11gR2_database_1of2.zip linux.zseries64_11gR2_database_2of2.zip I've also checked the following howtos without luck: http://www.fuzzy.cz/en/articles/installing-oracle-11g-r2-on-gentoo/http://www.fuzzy.cz/en/articles/installing-oracle-11g-r2-on-gentoo/%5B/url%5D http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Oracle_10g#Introductionhttp://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Oracle_10g#Introduction[/url] Does anyoneknows who to solve it? Thx!! :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make oldconfig necessary?
On Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:39:29 +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make oldconfig necessary?: What I meant was: If I want a kernel config as close as possible to the older kernel, can I just use `make menuconfig`, or do I have to first run `make oldconfig`. Just copy your old .config file to the new kernel source directory, then run make menuconfig and select what you want. Job done. The make menuconfig will silently do a make oldconfig on the existing .config file before it puts the menu on the screen. This means that the options in the menu hierarchy will reflect the options that were in your old .config file, with newer features [i.e. not in the earlier kernel] set to defaults. -- Regards, Dave [RLU #314465] *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* dwn...@ntlworld.com (David W Noon) *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 12:46 PM, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com All I'm saying is that I want to stick with the Apache OOo in the long run, not LibreOffice. Grant's point (if I read it correctly) was that you were effectively using LO, just with OOo branding, because the Go-Oo patches were already being applied. In short, no functional distinction. So why care now, when nothing's really changed? Users can switch to the LibreOffice install if they desire, but there's no reason for force those that want to continue with OOo to move over. Except that, on Gentoo, they effectively already had, without realizing it. Sure, OOo and LO may take different paths going forward, but, on Gentoo, they were already largely equivalent in deviation from OOo upstream. Perhaps what you want to do is ask that someone *add* and maintain an authentic OOo ebuild? (If there was demand for an authentic OOo ebuild, why wasn't there one already?) -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, swap, caching, other unusual uses
Am Sonntag 31 Juli 2011, 19:11:06 schrieb Michael Mol: On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 6:37 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag 31 Juli 2011, 10:44:28 schrieb Michael Mol: While I take your point about write-cycle limitations, and I would *assume* you're familiar with the various improvements on wear-leveling technique that have happened over the past *ten years* yeah, I am. Or let it phrase it differently: I know what is claimed. The problem is, the best wear leveling does not help you if your disk is pretty filled up and you still do a lot of writing. 1 000 000 write cycles aren't much. Ok; I wasn't certain, but it sounded like you'd had your head in the sand (if you'll pardon the expression). It's clear you didn't. I'm sorry. since those concerns were first raised, I could probably raise an argument that a fresh SSD is likely to last longer as a swap device than as a filesystem. depends - because thanks to wear leveling that 'swap partition' is just something the firmware makes the kernel believe to be there. Swap is only touched as-needed, while there's been an explosion in programs and user software which demands synchronous writes to disk for data integrity purposes. (Firefox uses sqlite in such a way, for example; I discovered this when I was using sqlite heavily in my *own* application, and Firefox hung for a couple minutes during every batch insert.) which is another goof reason not to use firefox - but total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 81825567373736 808820 0 56252 2197064 -/+ buffers/cache:51204203062136 Swap: 23446848 82868 23363980 even with lots of ram, you will hit swap. And since you are using the wear- leveling of the drive's firmware it does not matter that your swap resides on its own partition - every page written means a block-rewrite somewhere. Really not good for your ssd. Fair enough. It Would Be Nice(tm) if the SSD's block size and alignment matched that of the kernel's pagesize. Not certain if it's possible to tune those settings (reliably) in the kernel. Also, my stats, from three different systems (they appear to be using trivial amounts of swap, though my Gentoo box doesn't appear to be using any) (Desktop box) shortcircuit:1@serenity~ Sun Jul 31 07:03 PM !499 #1 j0 ?0 $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 5975 3718 2256 0617 1106 -/+ buffers/cache: 1994 3980 Swap: 9993 0 9993 (laptop) shortcircuit@saffron:~$ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 1995 1732263 0169913 -/+ buffers/cache:648 1347 Swap: 3921 3 3918 (server) shortcirc...@rosettacode.xen.prgmr.com~ 23:05:34 $ free -m total used free sharedbuffers cached Mem: 2048 2000 47 0285488 -/+ buffers/cache: 1225822 Swap: 511 1510 Also, despite the MBTF data provided by the manufacturers, there's more empirical evidence that the drives expire faster than expected, anyway. I'm aware of this, and not particularly concerned about it. well, it is your money to burn. Best evidence I've read lately is that the drives last about a year under heavy use. I was going to include a reference in the last email, but I can't find a link to the post. I thought it was something Joel Spolsky (or *someone* at StackOverflow) wrote, but I was unable to find it quickly. My parts usually last 3-5 years, so that's pretty low. Still, having my swap partition drop (and the entire system halt) would be generally less damaging to me than having real data on the drive. False dichotomy. Yes, it increases the wear on the device. That says nothing of its impact on system performance, which was the nature of my point. if you are so concerned of swap performance you should probably go with a smaller ssd, get more ram and let that few mb of swap you need been handled by several swap partitions. This is where I get back to my original, 'prohibitively expensive' bit. I can get 16GB of RAM into my system for about $200. The use cases where I've been contemplating this have been where I wanted to have 60GB to 80GB of data quickly accessible in a random-access fashion, but where that type of load wasn't what I normally spent my time doing. (Hence the idea to have a broader improvement from something such as the file cache) And, really, the whole point of the thread was for thought experiments. Posits are occasionally required. As for a filecache not being that important, that's
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Oracle 11g installer crash
On 8/1/2011 9:48 AM, Pau Peris wrote: Hi, i've followed that guide http://vh4x0r.wordpress.com/2010/08/17/installing-oracle-11g-on-linux-amd64/ in order to install oracle 11g but i get the following error when running: ./runInstaller: line 254: /apphome/oracle/database/install/.oui: cannot execute binary file These are the downloaded files: Linux.zseries64_11gR2_database_1of2.zip linux.zseries64_11gR2_database_2of2.zip I'm fairly certain that zseries packages are for the Power architecture which is not amd64, but s390 or s390x. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_on_zSeries kashani
Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, swap, caching, other unusual uses
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag 31 Juli 2011, 19:11:06 schrieb Michael Mol: Yet would potentially run afoul of the SSD's write block resolution. And, of course, having the journal fail out from under me would be a fair bit worse than the kernel panicking during a swap operation. SSDs have this nice feature - it is called sudden violent death. Good chance that when it fails, all of it fails ;) Yeah, which is why I haven't been keen on putting an entire filesystem on one, and would rather have it as a cache; caches are, by nature, temporary. I ran into trouble with Thunderbird a couple months ago, which is why I had to drop from using tmpfs. (Also, I compile with -ggdb in CFLAGS, so I expect my build sizes bloat a bit more than most) uuuh.. yeah.. 'a bit'.. you are a man of understatement. :) -- :wq
[gentoo-user] Re: RAID-1 install
pk peterk2 at coolmail.se writes: the 4k block (GPT) issue? Maybe I missed it on the minimal CD? If you're after GPT-able partition software you can use (g)parted, available on the Gentoo live cd (it _should_ handle 4k disks as well): http://www.gentoo.org/news/20110308-livedvd.xml Sorry for delayed response, I've been reading up on gpt-fdisk [1]. Interesting reading on gpt-patch-fdisk So parted 2.3 in on the minimal cd I'm using: install-amd64-minimal-20110714.iso should be as sufficient as gparted? If so, it looks like my disk(s) setups which are identical are ok? [2] seems to suggest that what I originally used (fdisk) to partition a 4K block drive (fdisk-H 224 -S 56 -l) will work, but the drive is NOT optimized? Using this (parted) syntax: (parted) print Model: ATA ST32000542AS (scsi) Disk /dev/sda: 2000GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos Number Start End SizeType File system Flags 1 1049kB 269MB 268MB primary boot, raid 2 269MB 5414MB 5144MB primary raid 3 5414MB 2000GB 1995GB primary raid and (parted) align-check minimal 1 1 aligned (parted) align-check optimal 1 1 aligned (parted) align-check optimal 2 2 aligned (parted) align-check optimal 3 3 aligned (parted) Should I conclude that sda and sdb are correct and optimized for 4K block drives? I never used parted before, so I can easily be making a mistake [3] or poor assumption? [1] http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/ http://sourceforge.net/projects/gptfdisk/ [2] http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/booting.html [3] http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/RAID/Software#Large_Partitions
[gentoo-user] Re: jbd2 keeps spinning my disk up
Peter Humphrey peter at humphrey.ukfsn.org writes: My little Atom box's hard disk spins up every minute or so, and watching iotop I see it's jbd2 that does it. Google shows that others have similar problems. Before I re-create all the partitions as reiserfs - and remove ext4 from the kernel - does anyone have a lighter solution? Well, lots in good responses, so please do not interpret mine as saying it's a better solution that what others are suggestion. Atom is more of an embedded processor than a true workstation/server processor, imho. As such, it it more bare metal meaning countless software developments for AMD and Intel processors intended for workstations and servers, are irrelevant, useless, harmful, redundant, or just plain stupid for embedded processors. like the atom. So now you (and I and millions of folks) are trying to use mega-software (linux distro) on a bare-metal processor NOBODY has fleshed out these issues on an itemized basis. i.e. the knowledge base is sparse (at best) since the only one that can really do this is the silicon vendors and they have a VESTED INTEREST in not doing so. Furthermore, since Atom and ARM and many other embedded processors are combined as cores on an SOC (system on a chip) each revision of such hardware by each vendor can have different addtional hardware on the SOC that a generic compiled software distro is clueless about. That's why numerous devices that attempt low power linux, use a proprietary linux based on montaVista or countlesss other embedded linux vendors. These purveyors and vendors of the various embedded linux offerings do not publish anything about these hardware details for some issues and do include documentation, deep in the specifications of the processor. When you stray from that (the linux distro that come with the product), you are on your own, finding piecemeal information about low level hardware intricaciesad-nossium.imho. If the device came with some OS other than a linux hack. YOu are much futher from paradise then with a default linux distro as the OS the vendor provided. It does not mean you will not be successful, just your journey is perilous, at best, if optimization is what you seek. Long story short, for years I have been building firewalls and embedded linux bridges, sniffers and other passive ethernet based devices, using ext2. Works beautifully with little attention. Not optimized, but avoid a HUGE time-sink. I encounter a myriad of issues, when trying newer file systems for embedded linux systems. Ext-2 works for years on Compact Flash drives if you do not log, or limit logs to an NFS link or such. As one reader suggested, you have to audit, one application at a time, to find the culprit. It's actually a never ending process, imho, as feature creep on a myriad of software packages will usually lead to performance issues and thus more aggressive algorithms on data movement. You may want to try some of the file systems intended for embedded system (as part of the newer linux kernels) and the tuning parameters therein, if you are looking for a robust solution. Also delete what you do not need from the atom based system, just as a general policy. Minimal and embedded are different facets of the same thing. Intel atom is first and foremost an embedded processor, not a CISC processor. I.E. just because it compiles, does not mean it runs well on limited resources or bare metal. Happy Hunting, James
Re: [gentoo-user] r8169 unable to apply firmware patch
I'm guessing that radeon-ucode and rt61-firmware and all the others are being deprecated in favour of linux-firmware, but i don't recall seeing an elog on it. Does anyone know if this is the case? Doesn't seem very Gentoo-like, although it should minimize package management for the devs which is good. but now that I look closer I realize that ifconfig doesn't show an eth0 interface at all even though lspci -v shows: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller ... Kernel driver in use: r8169 Shouldn't the eth0 interface appear in ifconfig once the r8169 driver is loaded? dmesg has no mention of eth0 or r8169. That's odd. Does that box still have the failed loading firmware error? Perhaps missing firmware stops eth0 from being created. I'd try installing linux-fireware and trying again (assuming you havent already). I didn't have the firmware error on the desktop but I installed linux-firmware and now eth0 is renamed to eth1 and appears under iwconfig (no wireless extensions) but not under ifconfig. My laptop's r8169 eth0 appears under ifconfig even when there's no ethernet cable attached. That's the expected behavior isn't it? - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] r8169 unable to apply firmware patch
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: That's odd. Does that box still have the failed loading firmware error? Perhaps missing firmware stops eth0 from being created. I'd try installing linux-fireware and trying again (assuming you havent already). I didn't have the firmware error on the desktop but I installed linux-firmware and now eth0 is renamed to eth1 and appears under iwconfig (no wireless extensions) but not under ifconfig. I'm thinking you should set up some udev rules to help keep things clear. (You really shouldn't see a NIC get renamed like that) On my home router, I had eth0-eth2. I renamed them so that I had 'wan', 'wiredlan' and 'wifilan' instead. Check out udev and a persistent-net.rules file under /etc/udev/rules.d. (I'd paste mine as an example, but that machine is inaccessible to me right now) Setting up some peristent udev rules keyed on a NIC's MAC address will help keep things orderly for you. My laptop's r8169 eth0 appears under ifconfig even when there's no ethernet cable attached. That's the expected behavior isn't it? Sure; ifconfig will even tell you if the link is up or down. Just because the link is down doesn't mean the interface isn't there. :) -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] r8169 unable to apply firmware patch
... Setting up some peristent udev rules keyed on a NIC's MAC address will help keep things orderly for you. I deleted the persistent-net.rules file and rebooted and everything came up properly numbered. eth0 was being renamed to eth1 previously because I had used that hard drive on a different motherboard. My laptop's r8169 eth0 appears under ifconfig even when there's no ethernet cable attached. That's the expected behavior isn't it? Sure; ifconfig will even tell you if the link is up or down. Just because the link is down doesn't mean the interface isn't there. :) I see eth0 under ifconfig on my laptop but not on my desktop. Strangely, on my desktop eth0 does appear under iwconfig (no wireless extensions). dmesg pertaining to eth0 and r8169 looks normal. lspci -v says: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller ... Kernel driver in use: r8169 But no eth0 under ifconfig. - Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] r8169 unable to apply firmware patch
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 3:04 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: My laptop's r8169 eth0 appears under ifconfig even when there's no ethernet cable attached. That's the expected behavior isn't it? Sure; ifconfig will even tell you if the link is up or down. Just because the link is down doesn't mean the interface isn't there. :) I see eth0 under ifconfig on my laptop but not on my desktop. Strangely, on my desktop eth0 does appear under iwconfig (no wireless extensions). dmesg pertaining to eth0 and r8169 looks normal. lspci -v says: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller ... Kernel driver in use: r8169 But no eth0 under ifconfig. Time to go for a walk in /sys, to find out more information. Check out /sys/bus/pci/devices Now, with lspci, a NIC will look something like this: 01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) If I look under /sys/bus/pci/devices, I'll see a corresponding directory (compare the first column from the lspci output): :01:08.0 If I run 'ls' in that directory, I see: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 broken_parity_status lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2011-08-01 15:19 bus - ../../../../bus/pci -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:11 class -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 256 2011-08-01 15:11 config -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:11 device lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2011-08-01 15:11 driver - ../../../../bus/pci/drivers/8139too -rw--- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 enable -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:11 irq -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 local_cpus -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 modalias -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 msi_bus lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2011-08-01 15:19 net:eth2 - ../../../../class/net/eth2 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root0 2011-05-12 10:47 power -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:11 resource -rw--- 1 root root 256 2011-08-01 15:19 resource0 -rw--- 1 root root 256 2011-08-01 15:19 resource1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root0 2011-08-01 15:19 subsystem - ../../../../bus/pci -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 subsystem_device -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 subsystem_vendor -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 uevent -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:11 vendor So, you an see a file named 'net:eth2', so I expect it would show up as eth2, absent any udev renaming or aliasing rules. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] r8169 unable to apply firmware patch
My laptop's r8169 eth0 appears under ifconfig even when there's no ethernet cable attached. That's the expected behavior isn't it? Sure; ifconfig will even tell you if the link is up or down. Just because the link is down doesn't mean the interface isn't there. :) I see eth0 under ifconfig on my laptop but not on my desktop. Strangely, on my desktop eth0 does appear under iwconfig (no wireless extensions). dmesg pertaining to eth0 and r8169 looks normal. lspci -v says: Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller ... Kernel driver in use: r8169 But no eth0 under ifconfig. Time to go for a walk in /sys, to find out more information. Check out /sys/bus/pci/devices Now, with lspci, a NIC will look something like this: 01:08.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10) If I look under /sys/bus/pci/devices, I'll see a corresponding directory (compare the first column from the lspci output): :01:08.0 I have: # lspci ... 04:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 06) # ls /sys/bus/pci/devices :00:00.0 :00:0a.0 :00:13.0 :00:14.3 :00:15.1 :00:18.1 :01:05.0 :04:00.0 :00:01.0 :00:11.0 :00:13.2 :00:14.4 :00:16.0 :00:18.2 :01:05.1 :00:04.0 :00:12.0 :00:14.0 :00:14.5 :00:16.2 :00:18.3 :02:00.0 :00:09.0 :00:12.2 :00:14.1 :00:15.0 :00:18.0 :00:18.4 :03:00.0 # ls /sys/bus/pci/devices/:04:00.0 broken_parity_status device irqmsi_bus reset resource2_wc subsystem_device vpd class dma_mask_bits local_cpulist net resource resource4 subsystem_vendor configdriver local_cpus remove resource0 resource4_wc uevent consistent_dma_mask_bits enable modalias rescan resource2 subsystem vendor So I guess I'm missing net:eth0 in that last one? It's a nearly brand new motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128490 Maybe the r8169 driver hasn't caught up? - Grant If I run 'ls' in that directory, I see: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 broken_parity_status lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2011-08-01 15:19 bus - ../../../../bus/pci -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:11 class -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 256 2011-08-01 15:11 config -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:11 device lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2011-08-01 15:11 driver - ../../../../bus/pci/drivers/8139too -rw--- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 enable -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:11 irq -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 local_cpus -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 modalias -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 msi_bus lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2011-08-01 15:19 net:eth2 - ../../../../class/net/eth2 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2011-05-12 10:47 power -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:11 resource -rw--- 1 root root 256 2011-08-01 15:19 resource0 -rw--- 1 root root 256 2011-08-01 15:19 resource1 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 2011-08-01 15:19 subsystem - ../../../../bus/pci -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 subsystem_device -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 subsystem_vendor -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:19 uevent -r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2011-08-01 15:11 vendor So, you an see a file named 'net:eth2', so I expect it would show up as eth2, absent any udev renaming or aliasing rules. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] make oldconfig necessary?
On 08/01/2011 12:00 PM, kashani wrote: On 7/31/2011 7:06 PM, Pandu Poluan wrote: Let's say I have a .config from an older kernel version (for example, 2.6.38), and now I want to install a newer kernel (let's say, 3.0). Is it necessary to first do `make oldconfig`, or is it safe to go directly to `make menuconfig`? Necessary to run make old config? No. Easier and simpler most of the time? Yes. Use oldconfig. Running 'oldconfig' will prompt you for any new sections/drivers that have appeared since your last kernel. Running 'menuconfig' will silently accept all of the defaults for these new options. Why is it safer if only the new stuff gets defaulted? Because on more than one occasion, there has been a group of drivers, e.g. wireless chipsets, that got a new enable anything option. So while you may have had your Atheros chipset enabled in the old kernel, the new kernel has a enable wireless networking option that defaults to no despite the fact that your old kernel had one or more wireless chipsets enabled. This also happened with the entire SATA subsystem, resulting in at least one extra trip to the office for me. I'm not bitter, though.
Re: [gentoo-user] r8169 unable to apply firmware patch
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote: # ls /sys/bus/pci/devices/:04:00.0 broken_parity_status device irq msi_bus reset resource2_wc subsystem_device vpd class dma_mask_bits local_cpulist net resource resource4 subsystem_vendor config driver local_cpus remove resource0 resource4_wc uevent consistent_dma_mask_bits enable modalias rescan resource2 subsystem vendor So I guess I'm missing net:eth0 in that last one? Looks that way. It's a nearly brand new motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128490 Maybe the r8169 driver hasn't caught up? I dunno; you said it worked in 2.6.36, but not in 2.6.38 and 2.6.39, so that sounds like a regression. I don't know where you'd go from here. Possibly contact the group that maintains the driver. If you do that, then they'd probably find it helpful if you checked to see if 2.6.37 worked; that'd let them narow things down a bit. Also, they'd likely find the relevant lines from lspci -vv useful. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Choosing wired or wireless at boot time
2011/8/1 José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com: Hello. I have two network interfaces on my notebook: one wired (eth0) and one wireless (wlan0). I am running ~amd64 on it. I want two gentoo boot entries in grub: one (the default softlevel) which starts wired networking (and not wireless), and another that starts the wireless network (and not the wired). For the later I have created a new softlevel named wireless, with all services from default, except net.eth0. The default has net.eth0, but not net.wlan0. Booting with default works as expected, but booting with wireless starts both interfaces. In /etc/rc.conf I have the lines: rc_depend_strict=NO rc_hotplug=!net* Any clues? This is for a laptop? Do you use a desktop environment? If that's the case, why don't you use NetworkManager or ConnMan, and forget about having to do black script magic to set up your network dynamically? I'm genuinely curious, I just want to understand why someone would go through the pain of something like this, when there are several tools already that just work automatically. In my laptop I use NetworkManager, and besides I suspend all the time. I've been in five different countries the last month and a half, and I've been connecting to different networks all the time (wireless and wired), and NetworkManager just works. I don't have to do anything, just plug the ethernet cable or select the wireless network, set the WEP/WPA key, and that's it. Maybe you have a really wild or weird use case, but then I'm really curious: Why do you want yo set up a different softlevel just to change between wired and wireless networks? Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
[gentoo-user] Re: make oldconfig necessary?
On 2011-08-01, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: Use oldconfig. Running 'oldconfig' will prompt you for any new sections/drivers that have appeared since your last kernel. Running 'menuconfig' will silently accept all of the defaults for these new options. Why is it safer if only the new stuff gets defaulted? Because on more than one occasion, there has been a group of drivers, e.g. wireless chipsets, that got a new enable anything option. So while you may have had your Atheros chipset enabled in the old kernel, the new kernel has a enable wireless networking option that defaults to no despite the fact that your old kernel had one or more wireless chipsets enabled. This also happened with the entire SATA subsystem, Been there, tripped over that. ;) I didn't pay close enough attention when running make oldconfig and suddenly no hard-drives with the new kernel. It took me an embarassingly long time to figure out what had gone wrong... -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Did an Italian CRANE at OPERATOR just experience gmail.comuninhibited sensations in a MALIBU HOT TUB?
[gentoo-user] Re: Openoffice being replaced?
On 2011-08-01, BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com wrote: I would say switch to LibreOffice and don't look back. :) I wouldn't. While LibreOffice may have some advances at the moment, I'm still interested in following main-line OOo - now being setting under Apache. So you don't use the gentoo OOo ebuilds?? AFAICT, they're a lot closer to being libreoffice than to being mainline OOo. Please do not force us to convert from OO to LO. If you use the gentoo ebuilds, then you mostly already have. Gentoo OOo? = OOo + Go-Oo LibreOffice = OOo + Go-Oo There's other stuff in LibreOffice too. But I'd still much rather be using OOo than LibreOffice. And I'd rather drop the GO-OOo patches, but I don't think there's an option for that in emerge. Not that I've noticed. I have no problem with separate installs for each, but there will be those (like me) that want the official OO installs. But, what you get using the Gentoo ebuilds isn't the official OOo install. If you're running official OOo, then youre not using the Gentoo ebuilds, so why do you care what those ebuilds produce? One of the things I like about LibreOffice is the reduced dependancies. Even with the gnome USE flag turned off, OOo pulls in some big gnome dependancies that I don't want.? WTF does an office suite need libgweather? And I'm sure the Apache OO guys will fix that in due time as well. All I'm saying is that I want to stick with the Apache OOo in the long run, not LibreOffice. And what I'm saying is that if you're using the Gentoo ebuilds, you abandoned official OOo a long time ago and are already a ways down the road that LO is taking. If you want to stick with Apache OOo, that's cool. However, the old OOo ebuilds were a long ways from the official branch of OOo before LO came along. So, for people who want to stick with Apache OOo, it doesn't matter that the old OOo ebuilds are being dropped. Users can switch to the LibreOffice install if they desire, but there's no reason for force those that want to continue with OOo to move over. I'm not saying they should be forced to, but it seems like they're fooling themselves if they think that the old Gentoo OOo ebuilds were closer to official OOo than to LO. That's probably why the old OOo ebuilds are being dropped -- they're mostly redundant now that LO has come along and incorporated GoOo patches. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! I wish I was on a at Cincinnati street corner gmail.comholding a clean dog!
Re: [gentoo-user] Choosing wired or wireless at boot time
On Monday 01 Aug 2011 21:38:41 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: 2011/8/1 José Romildo Malaquias j.romi...@gmail.com: Hello. I have two network interfaces on my notebook: one wired (eth0) and one wireless (wlan0). I am running ~amd64 on it. I want two gentoo boot entries in grub: one (the default softlevel) which starts wired networking (and not wireless), and another that starts the wireless network (and not the wired). For the later I have created a new softlevel named wireless, with all services from default, except net.eth0. The default has net.eth0, but not net.wlan0. Booting with default works as expected, but booting with wireless starts both interfaces. In /etc/rc.conf I have the lines: rc_depend_strict=NO rc_hotplug=!net* Any clues? This is for a laptop? Do you use a desktop environment? If that's the case, why don't you use NetworkManager or ConnMan, and forget about having to do black script magic to set up your network dynamically? I'm genuinely curious, I just want to understand why someone would go through the pain of something like this, when there are several tools already that just work automatically. In my laptop I use NetworkManager, and besides I suspend all the time. I've been in five different countries the last month and a half, and I've been connecting to different networks all the time (wireless and wired), and NetworkManager just works. I don't have to do anything, just plug the ethernet cable or select the wireless network, set the WEP/WPA key, and that's it. Maybe you have a really wild or weird use case, but then I'm really curious: Why do you want yo set up a different softlevel just to change between wired and wireless networks? sys-apps/ifplugd will bring up eth0 only if a cable is plugged in. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] KMail, multiple accounts and separate folders
Hi there. Thunderbird has a setting to create multiple mail accounts with separate mailfolder-hiearachy (inbox, draft, outbox, sent, trash) for each account instead of putting all mails in the same folder hierachy (as does Evolution in Gnome). Does anybody know where to find that or an identical setting in KMail? So far the solutions I've seen of separating mail accounts in KMail have been identical to those of separating mail accounts in Evolution (e.g. blend all the mails together in one big box and then manually create filters to more or less succesfully move them to subfolders within the same folder hierachy). Filter-based solutions are not wanted, since they do not work when people are sending the same mail to several of my accounts (one folder will receive multiple copies, and other folders will not receive the copies relevant to them). Kind regards, Kristian Poul Herkild
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: make oldconfig necessary?
On Monday 01 August 2011 17:58:18 David W Noon wrote: The make menuconfig will silently do a make oldconfig on the existing .config file before it puts the menu on the screen. This means that the options in the menu hierarchy will reflect the options that were in your old .config file, with newer features [i.e. not in the earlier kernel] set to defaults. ...and flagged with (NEW) so you can see them. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
Re: [gentoo-user] KMail, multiple accounts and separate folders
On Mon 01 August 2011 23:11:39 Kristian Poul Herkild did opine thusly: Hi there. Thunderbird has a setting to create multiple mail accounts with separate mailfolder-hiearachy (inbox, draft, outbox, sent, trash) for each account instead of putting all mails in the same folder hierachy (as does Evolution in Gnome). Does anybody know where to find that or an identical setting in KMail? So far the solutions I've seen of separating mail accounts in KMail have been identical to those of separating mail accounts in Evolution (e.g. blend all the mails together in one big box and then manually create filters to more or less succesfully move them to subfolders within the same folder hierachy). Filter-based solutions are not wanted, since they do not work when people are sending the same mail to several of my accounts (one folder will receive multiple copies, and other folders will not receive the copies relevant to them). You'll probably get better answers over at the kdepim-user list: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdepim-users -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] KMail, multiple accounts and separate folders
On Monday 01 August 2011 22:11:39 Kristian Poul Herkild wrote: Thunderbird has a setting to create multiple mail accounts with separate mailfolder-hiearachy (inbox, draft, outbox, sent, trash) for each account instead of putting all mails in the same folder hierachy (as does Evolution in Gnome). Does anybody know where to find that or an identical setting in KMail? If the accounts are POP3 you're offered a choice of destination folder. If they're IMAP they live in a separate hierarchy. Settings Configure Kmail Accounts Add/Modify etc. -- Rgds Peter Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23
[gentoo-user] Listing partition labels
Greetings all, I'm probably in the situation where I can't see the wood for the trees so a bit of help would be appreciated. I've decided to go the LABEL route in fstab and have set the labels on my partitions a few days ago. I now want to update fstab but can't remember the names. I can't find a command that will list the partitions and the names I've given them. I'm sure fdisk does not list them when I do just fdisk at the command prompt, but then again as I said above, I think I'm in the wood/forest mode at the moment. Any idea on the command? Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew
Re: [gentoo-user] Listing partition labels
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:12 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Greetings all, I'm probably in the situation where I can't see the wood for the trees so a bit of help would be appreciated. I've decided to go the LABEL route in fstab and have set the labels on my partitions a few days ago. I now want to update fstab but can't remember the names. I can't find a command that will list the partitions and the names I've given them. I'm sure fdisk does not list them when I do just fdisk at the command prompt, but then again as I said above, I think I'm in the wood/forest mode at the moment. Any idea on the command? file -s /dev/sda file -s /dev/sda1 I tend to use UUID, which you can figure out by poking around /dev/disk/by-uuid and looking where the symlinks point. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Listing partition labels
On Tuesday, August 2 at 10:12 (+0800), Andrew Lowe said: Greetings all, I'm probably in the situation where I can't see the wood for the trees so a bit of help would be appreciated. I've decided to go the LABEL route in fstab and have set the labels on my partitions a few days ago. I now want to update fstab but can't remember the names. I can't find a command that will list the partitions and the names I've given them. I'm sure fdisk does not list them when I do just fdisk at the command prompt, but then again as I said above, I think I'm in the wood/forest mode at the moment. Any idea on the command? Andrew /sbin/blkid
Re: [gentoo-user] r8169 unable to apply firmware patch
IIRC 'ifconfig -a' will show interfaces that are physically present, and the driver available. 'ifconfig' will only show those interfaces that are also activated or up, which means configured up - nothing to do with link. I'm not sure what RUNNING means... perhaps that indicates link (for ethernet at least)?
Re: [gentoo-user] Listing partition labels
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Greetings all, I'm probably in the situation where I can't see the wood for the trees so a bit of help would be appreciated. I've decided to go the LABEL route in fstab and have set the labels on my partitions a few days ago. I now want to update fstab but can't remember the names. I can't find a command that will list the partitions and the names I've given them. I'm sure fdisk does not list them when I do just fdisk at the command prompt, but then again as I said above, I think I'm in the wood/forest mode at the moment. Any idea on the command? Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew If they are EXT filesystems then try e2label. HTH, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Listing partition labels
On Aug 1, 2011 7:13 PM, Andrew Lowe a...@wht.com.au wrote: Greetings all, I'm probably in the situation where I can't see the wood for the trees so a bit of help would be appreciated. I've decided to go the LABEL route in fstab and have set the labels on my partitions a few days ago. I now want to update fstab but can't remember the names. I can't find a command that will list the partitions and the names I've given them. I'm sure fdisk does not list them when I do just fdisk at the command prompt, but then again as I said above, I think I'm in the wood/forest mode at the moment. Any idea on the command? tune2fs -l /dev/sda1
Re: [gentoo-user] Listing partition labels
Andrew Lowe wrote: Greetings all, I'm probably in the situation where I can't see the wood for the trees so a bit of help would be appreciated. I've decided to go the LABEL route in fstab and have set the labels on my partitions a few days ago. I now want to update fstab but can't remember the names. I can't find a command that will list the partitions and the names I've given them. I'm sure fdisk does not list them when I do just fdisk at the command prompt, but then again as I said above, I think I'm in the wood/forest mode at the moment. Any idea on the command? Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew Well, cfdisk shows them if you want to do it drive by drive. I think blkid is the best so far. I just wanted to mention cfdisk as yet one more option. I wish cfdisk would let you set a label tho. That would be neato. Dale :-) :-)
