Re: [gentoo-user] Razor-qt advice
On Thursday 01 Nov 2012 13:46:20 Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 01 Nov 2012 03:53:44 Bill Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 23:12 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: 121101 Bill Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 22:46 +, Mick wrote: I was thinking of using razor-qt From the Oct 20 automated package removal email you might want to investigate why before moving to it. x11-wm/razorqt 2012-10-22 10:00:01 yngwin x11-misc/lightdm-razorqt-greeter2012-10-22 10:01:35 yngwin As sometimes happens, removal really means moved : it has a new Portage category all to itself, like Xfce. Thanks for clarifying. BillK Phew! Just as I was about to hit the abort button. :-) Has anyone tried it and can comment how it compares to KDE? -- Regards, Mick Mick, I've used 0.4.2 a bit. It worked fine but as a KDE user it felt a little strange. I didn't invest much time to make myself more comfortable. My trading partner who is newer to Linux (about 1 year now) has been using razor-qt for the last month or so. He was fine with 0.4.2 but when they moved the package group they also had an update to 0.5. Unfortunately this did not produce correct resolutions on one of his three monitors so he's back to running KDE and doing updates on razor until that gets fixed. (TTBOMK he has not filed a bug report.) Thank you all for your responses. The PC in question has two monitors, with different resolutions, so I will be needing this to work fine (or will never hear the end of it). I'll make some time to try it out over the weekend and if they don't like it I may push the boat out and switch to e17 (which I am more familiar with). -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] qfile alternative?
On 11/02/2012 12:57:24 AM, James Cloos wrote: Many thanks, James. Since app-portage/portage-utils is a portage specific package, it would be nice if it would take all portage actions (like eselect) into account. You might want to open an RFE bug report for app-portage/portage-utils suggesting that qfile gain the ability to do the (the logical equivilent of) the above itself. I've tried that, but the reponsible developer doesn't want to understand (even an advanced) user's need. Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Questions about building from source tarball
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012 23:33:44 -0400, David Relson wrote: 1) create directory /usr/local/portage/app-example/some-package 2) copy some-package.x.y.z.ebuild to some-package.x.y.z-r1.ebuild (in the new directory). 3) Some editing of the new ebuild might be needed here... Some files in the files directory may also be needed (init scripts, patches etc.) I prefer to copy the whole ebuild directory from $PORTDIR to my overlay, rename the current ebuild and delete the older ones, leaving files/ untouched. -- Neil Bothwick Home is where you hang your @. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] courier-imap cannot find courier-authlib
I recently upgraded my courier setup (imap and authlib):
basement lib64 # eix -Ic courier
[I] net-libs/courier-authlib (0.65.0-r1@11/01/2012): Courier authentication
library.
[I] net-mail/courier-imap (4.8.0@11/01/2012): An IMAP daemon designed
specifically for maildirs.
After I was finished, the imap server stopped accepting new connections. I
managed to track the problem down to missing shared libraries from
courier-authlib needed by imaplogin:
basement authlib # ldd /usr/sbin/imaplogin
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x029ae5055000)
libcourierauth.so = not found
libcourierauthsasl.so = not found
libc.so.6 = /lib64/libc.so.6 (0x029ae4a8f000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x029ae4e36000)
basement lib64 # strace imaplogin 21 | grep libcourierauth.so
open(/lib64/tls/x86_64/libcourierauth.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open(/lib64/tls/libcourierauth.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open(/lib64/x86_64/libcourierauth.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open(/lib64/libcourierauth.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such
file or directory)
open(/usr/lib64/tls/x86_64/libcourierauth.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1
ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib64/tls/libcourierauth.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib64/x86_64/libcourierauth.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT
(No such file or directory)
open(/usr/lib64/libcourierauth.so, O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No
such file or directory)
writev(2, [{imaplogin, 9}, {: , 2}, {error while loading shared
libra..., 36}, {: , 2}, {libcourierauth.so, 17}, {: , 2}, {cannot
open shared object file, 30}, {: , 2}, {No such file or directory, 25},
{\n, 1}], 10imaplogin: error while loading shared libraries:
libcourierauth.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
The libraries in question are actually present, but apparently not where
imaplogin expects them to be:
basement lib64 # equery files courier-authlib | grep libcourierauth
/usr/lib64/courier-authlib/libcourierauth.so
/usr/lib64/courier-authlib/libcourierauth.so.0
/usr/lib64/courier-authlib/libcourierauthcommon.so
/usr/lib64/courier-authlib/libcourierauthcommon.so.0
/usr/lib64/courier-authlib/libcourierauthsasl.so
/usr/lib64/courier-authlib/libcourierauthsasl.so.0
/usr/lib64/courier-authlib/libcourierauthsaslclient.so
/usr/lib64/courier-authlib/libcourierauthsaslclient.so.0
I've rebuilt both packages and somehow, imaplogin is *building* fine with
the shared library in the wrong place, but refuses to load it at run time.
I have temporarily fixed the problem by symlinking the two missing libraries
into /lib64 but I don't see that as a good long-term solution. I'm really
stumped as to what changed to break things all of the sudden, or how to fix
it.
Is anyone else seeing this problem, or know how to make it go away?
--Mike
Re: [gentoo-user] courier-imap cannot find courier-authlib
On Fri, Nov 02, 2012 at 08:05:34AM -0400, Mike Edenfield wrote: Is anyone else seeing this problem, or know how to make it go away? Should be fixed in =courier-authlib-0.65.0-r2. In the meantime, try -r1 with the static-libs USE flag. -- Eray
Re: [gentoo-user] Who is mounting /lib64/splash/cache?
On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: I have a system where I disabled the fbcondecor kernel option (gentoo-sources), and the system boots in standard VGA text mode (80x25). Additionally, I have removed the fbcondecor service from startup. However, something in the system still mounts /lib64/splash/cache. Also, OpenRC produces an error message during booting: Failed to load theme Default. How can I disable all the fbcondecor/bootsplash stuff? I looked everywhere, and it doesn't look like there's anything left to disable. I don't have access to a machine with it installed right now, but I think splashutils does the mounting of that directory.
Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up: Several kernel versions have severe EXT4 data corruption bug
Kerin Millar wrote: Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 10/24/2012 03:54:39 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Kernels 3.4, 3.5, and 3.6 can result in severe data corruption if you're using the EXT4 filesystem: It looks as if Eric Sandeen has found the culprit and Theodore Ts'o has suggested this patch yesterday https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/28/309 Helmut. Here's the final patch: https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=ffb5387 It turns out to have had nothing to do with nobarrier. --Kerin Could you explain a little on who it could have affected? Is it more serious or less serious than originally thought? This is for those of us who don't subscribe to the kernel mailing list, which I have read is hugely active. Thanks much. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up: Several kernel versions have severe EXT4 data corruption bug
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 10:55 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Kerin Millar wrote: Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 10/24/2012 03:54:39 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Kernels 3.4, 3.5, and 3.6 can result in severe data corruption if you're using the EXT4 filesystem: It looks as if Eric Sandeen has found the culprit and Theodore Ts'o has suggested this patch yesterday https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/28/309 Helmut. Here's the final patch: https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=ffb5387 It turns out to have had nothing to do with nobarrier. --Kerin Could you explain a little on who it could have affected? Is it more serious or less serious than originally thought? This is for those of us who don't subscribe to the kernel mailing list, which I have read is hugely active. Thanks much. Well, it fixes a bug introduced in early February. If your kernel is older than that, you're probably not affected. More specific than that...it's a race condition that's unlikely to affect machines that aren't creating many new files while shutting down where the ext4 filesystem isn't being unmounted cleanly. It's probably worth getting patched, but I'd wait until the relevant kernel version's ebuild hits stable, same as usual.
Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up: Several kernel versions have severe EXT4 data corruption bug
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Kerin Millar wrote: Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 10/24/2012 03:54:39 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Kernels 3.4, 3.5, and 3.6 can result in severe data corruption if you're using the EXT4 filesystem: It looks as if Eric Sandeen has found the culprit and Theodore Ts'o has suggested this patch yesterday https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/28/309 Helmut. Here's the final patch: https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=ffb5387 It turns out to have had nothing to do with nobarrier. --Kerin Could you explain a little on who it could have affected? Is it more serious or less serious than originally thought? This is for those of us who don't subscribe to the kernel mailing list, which I have read is hugely active. Thanks much. AFAIK they originally thought it was related to normal reboots after short uptime, which would potentially put all ext4 users at risk who use newer kernels. That is when the news stories came out about the disastrous ext4 bug. As it turns it, it seems to have been related to enabling some combination of experimental, non-default mount options with an unsafe shutdown cherry on top. So the number of people who are using that would be far, far fewer than they originally thought. Still a dangerous bug for those people, of course, but I would guess probably 99+ percent of ext4 users weren't at risk from it. That is my layman's understanding, I probably got it all wrong. Experts, feel free to correct me. :)
Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up: Several kernel versions have severe EXT4 data corruption bug
Dale wrote: Kerin Millar wrote: Helmut Jarausch wrote: On 10/24/2012 03:54:39 PM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Kernels 3.4, 3.5, and 3.6 can result in severe data corruption if you're using the EXT4 filesystem: It looks as if Eric Sandeen has found the culprit and Theodore Ts'o has suggested this patch yesterday https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/28/309 Helmut. Here's the final patch: https://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=ffb5387 It turns out to have had nothing to do with nobarrier. --Kerin Could you explain a little on who it could have affected? Is it more serious or less serious than originally thought? This is for those of us who don't subscribe to the kernel mailing list, which I have read is hugely active. I would describe the bug itself as serious but it will affect few users because journal_checksum isn't enabled by default. Ted submitted a patch to enable the option by default back in 2009 but it was reverted a few months later by Linus due to this bug: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14354 I'm pretty sure that it hasn't since been re-enabled as a default. As long as you haven't enabled this option, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. --Kerin
[gentoo-user] OT: Gentoo as ESXi guest: how to install vmware-tools/open-vm-tools?
Hi, this might be a little off-topic, but maybe someone here is running Gentoo on top of VMware/ESXi and could help me. I'm trying to install gentoo-server as vmware esxi guest, but I'm stuck with vmware-tools/open-vm-tools. First I tried vmware-tools. Installation went smoot, but nothing happened. Just one iso-image got installed in /opt. No doc/readme/txt, nothing. What should I do with it? Then I tried open-vm-tools thinking it might be better. But installation of open-vm-tools-kmod failed with message: CONFIG_DRM_VMWGFX: is not set when it should be I'm not sure what this option is good for (searched kernel config with grep and did not find it at all), but I think it has something to do with graphics, which I do not want to use on server. Unfortunatelly, open-vm-tools-kmod does not have any use-flags so I can not turn 3d off and I am stuck again. All I expect from vmware/open-vm-tools is ability for clean shutdown of gentoo-guest in similar way as I can do it with windows-guest. How can I achieve this? Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Gentoo as ESXi guest: how to install vmware-tools/open-vm-tools?
Jarry schrieb: First I tried vmware-tools. Installation went smoot, but nothing happened. Just one iso-image got installed in /opt. No doc/readme/txt, nothing. What should I do with it? mount -o loop the iso-image somewhere and execute the install script there. -Matt
[gentoo-user] Re: wireless dropping connections
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: It's done it since new (which was recently) and nothing else changed. The XBox, tablets, phones and the missus' Windows laptop all show the same problem - so it's not Gentoo Alan, Sometimes Rf issues that are peculiar and anomalous have a component of the problem being poor grounding. Check your grounding as here in Florida, grounding often goes out of spec (too high) due to corrosion on the grounding rods over time. It's best to use a triad of grounding rods and test by ohming the ground measurement. Alas, and this really sucks, you may have a combination of issues, particularly transient conditions where someone is using a ham radio in your area or such, or some neighbor that is using a welder. Those sorts of noise/power distortions are sometimes impossible to pin down. Long the drops and see if some patterns of recurring time stamps are present... Some dirty power supplies that are found anywhere downstream of the (power) distribution transformer can wig out Rf power supplies quite easily. hth, James
[gentoo-user] OT triple display
Hello, I'm putting together a workstation, I want it to have 3 screens (24). I want it to be AMD-Gigabyte system. I've settled on the new FX8350 processor. I ran across this mobo: Triple Display Support – AMD Eyefinity GIGABYTE FM2 series motherboards are the first to take advantage of AMD Eyefinity technology, allowing users to extend their OS desktop by connecting up to three high-resolution digital displays. Triple displays mean more real-estate for enhanced productivity, plus the ability to enjoy panoramic triple screen 3D gaming thanks to AMD’s optimized Eyefinity driver technology. http://www.gigabyte.us/press-center/news-page.aspx?nid=1160 Any feedback on the triple head AMD FX8350 system would be appreciated. James
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Gentoo as ESXi guest: how to install vmware-tools/open-vm-tools?
All I expect from vmware/open-vm-tools is ability for clean shutdown of gentoo-guest in similar way as I can do it with windows-guest. How can I achieve this? You mean shut the guest down via ESXi management console? If you, try installing acpid inside the guest and add it to the default runlevel.
Re: [gentoo-user] OT triple display
On 2012-11-02 19:42, James wrote: snip all over... I want it to be AMD-Gigabyte system. I've settled on the new FX8350 processor. I ran across this mobo: Triple Display Support – AMD Eyefinity GIGABYTE FM2 series motherboards are the first to take advantage http://www.gigabyte.us/press-center/news-page.aspx?nid=1160 Any feedback on the triple head AMD FX8350 system would be appreciated. The FX8350 is a AM3+ platform cpu, it will not fit a FM2 motherboard. You need an FM2 cpu for an FM2 motherboard or you get an AM3+ motherboard with the FX8350. The FX8350 does not contain a GPU like the FM2 cpu (or APU as AMD like to call them). HTH Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Gentoo as ESXi guest: how to install vmware-tools/open-vm-tools?
On 02-Nov-12 19:50, Michael Hampicke wrote: All I expect from vmware/open-vm-tools is ability for clean shutdown of gentoo-guest in similar way as I can do it with windows-guest. How can I achieve this? You mean shut the guest down via ESXi management console? If you, try installing acpid inside the guest and add it to the default runlevel. I have it running and created /etc/acpi/event/power : event=button/power.* action=/sbin/shutdown -h now But I do not know how to trigger short power-button press. In vSphere-Client shutdown guest is still grey, and when I click on Power-PowerOff, it is just powered off, without shutdown (as if power-button was pressed for long time). I suppose vmware-tools are needed for this... Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up: Several kernel versions have severe EXT4 data corruption bug
Kerin Millar wrote: I would describe the bug itself as serious but it will affect few users because journal_checksum isn't enabled by default. Ted submitted a patch to enable the option by default back in 2009 but it was reverted a few months later by Linus due to this bug: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14354 I'm pretty sure that it hasn't since been re-enabled as a default. As long as you haven't enabled this option, you shouldn't have anything to worry about. --Kerin This sounds good. At least it didn't hit to many systems since most likely use defaults anyway, me included. Thanks to Michael and Paul for their replies too. Now others know what it turned out to be and what, if any, effect it could have on the average user. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
[gentoo-user] Re: Who is mounting /lib64/splash/cache?
On 02/11/12 16:46, Paul Hartman wrote: On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: I have a system where I disabled the fbcondecor kernel option (gentoo-sources), and the system boots in standard VGA text mode (80x25). Additionally, I have removed the fbcondecor service from startup. However, something in the system still mounts /lib64/splash/cache. Also, OpenRC produces an error message during booting: Failed to load theme Default. How can I disable all the fbcondecor/bootsplash stuff? I looked everywhere, and it doesn't look like there's anything left to disable. I don't have access to a machine with it installed right now, but I think splashutils does the mounting of that directory. In that case, who's running splashutils at startup?
Re: [gentoo-user] Razor-qt advice
On Friday 02 Nov 2012 06:21:39 Mick wrote: On Thursday 01 Nov 2012 13:46:20 Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 01 Nov 2012 03:53:44 Bill Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 23:12 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: 121101 Bill Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 22:46 +, Mick wrote: I was thinking of using razor-qt From the Oct 20 automated package removal email you might want to investigate why before moving to it. x11-wm/razorqt 2012-10-22 10:00:01 yngwin x11-misc/lightdm-razorqt-greeter2012-10-22 10:01:35 yngwin As sometimes happens, removal really means moved : it has a new Portage category all to itself, like Xfce. Thanks for clarifying. BillK Phew! Just as I was about to hit the abort button. :-) Has anyone tried it and can comment how it compares to KDE? -- Regards, Mick Mick, I've used 0.4.2 a bit. It worked fine but as a KDE user it felt a little strange. I didn't invest much time to make myself more comfortable. My trading partner who is newer to Linux (about 1 year now) has been using razor-qt for the last month or so. He was fine with 0.4.2 but when they moved the package group they also had an update to 0.5. Unfortunately this did not produce correct resolutions on one of his three monitors so he's back to running KDE and doing updates on razor until that gets fixed. (TTBOMK he has not filed a bug report.) Thank you all for your responses. The PC in question has two monitors, with different resolutions, so I will be needing this to work fine (or will never hear the end of it). I'll make some time to try it out over the weekend and if they don't like it I may push the boat out and switch to e17 (which I am more familiar with). Ahhh! Abort - Abort! It tries to load Gnome packages ... Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-common-3.1.0 148 kB [ebuild N ] dev-lang/vala-0.12.1 USE=vapigen -test 2,233 kB [ebuild N ] dev-util/gdbus-codegen-2.32.4 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_2 -python2_5 -python2_6 -python3_1 0 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.22 USE=introspection -doc - vala 324 kB [ebuild N ] x11-misc/lightdm-1.0.11 USE=introspection qt4 -branding - gtk -test 636 kB [snip ...] I thought it was USE=branding in lightdm that did it, but I disabled branding for lightdm, so I don't know what's pulling these in. It seems that I'll need to try it with kdm instead. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Razor-qt advice
On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 00:11:34 + Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 02 Nov 2012 06:21:39 Mick wrote: On Thursday 01 Nov 2012 13:46:20 Mark Knecht wrote: On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 11:54 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 01 Nov 2012 03:53:44 Bill Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 23:12 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: 121101 Bill Kenworthy wrote: On Wed, 2012-10-31 at 22:46 +, Mick wrote: I was thinking of using razor-qt From the Oct 20 automated package removal email you might want to investigate why before moving to it. x11-wm/razorqt 2012-10-22 10:00:01 yngwin x11-misc/lightdm-razorqt-greeter 2012-10-22 10:01:35 yngwin As sometimes happens, removal really means moved : it has a new Portage category all to itself, like Xfce. Thanks for clarifying. BillK Phew! Just as I was about to hit the abort button. :-) Has anyone tried it and can comment how it compares to KDE? -- Regards, Mick Mick, I've used 0.4.2 a bit. It worked fine but as a KDE user it felt a little strange. I didn't invest much time to make myself more comfortable. My trading partner who is newer to Linux (about 1 year now) has been using razor-qt for the last month or so. He was fine with 0.4.2 but when they moved the package group they also had an update to 0.5. Unfortunately this did not produce correct resolutions on one of his three monitors so he's back to running KDE and doing updates on razor until that gets fixed. (TTBOMK he has not filed a bug report.) Thank you all for your responses. The PC in question has two monitors, with different resolutions, so I will be needing this to work fine (or will never hear the end of it). I'll make some time to try it out over the weekend and if they don't like it I may push the boat out and switch to e17 (which I am more familiar with). Ahhh! Abort - Abort! It tries to load Gnome packages ... Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] gnome-base/gnome-common-3.1.0 148 kB [ebuild N ] dev-lang/vala-0.12.1 USE=vapigen -test 2,233 kB [ebuild N ] dev-util/gdbus-codegen-2.32.4 PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_2 -python2_5 -python2_6 -python3_1 0 kB [ebuild N ] sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.22 USE=introspection -doc - vala 324 kB [ebuild N ] x11-misc/lightdm-1.0.11 USE=introspection qt4 -branding - gtk -test 636 kB [snip ...] I thought it was USE=branding in lightdm that did it, but I disabled branding for lightdm, so I don't know what's pulling these in. It seems that I'll need to try it with kdm instead. use the -t option to emerge. that will tell you in a tree display what pulls in what. Reading the ebuild for that package tells you why. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
