Re: [gentoo-user] portage insists in pulling in sys-apps/kmod
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 03:06:05PM -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote: Hello, Some of my servers are running with a kernel without module-support. On these servers something has started to pull in sys-apps/kmod, which when compiled complains about missing modules-support in the kernel (as it should). Doing an equery d sys-apps/kmod I can see that the following two packages depends on sy-apps/kmod: sys-fs/udev-197-r8 (kmod ? =sys-apps/kmod-12) virtual/modutils-0 (sys-apps/kmod[tools]) sys-fs/udev has -kmod in its USE-flags, so that should not be an issue). # emerge --verbose --pretend sys-fs/udev [ebuild R] sys-fs/udev-197-r8 USE=acl openrc -doc -gudev -hwdb -introspection -keymap -kmod (-selinux) -static-libs 0 kB With virtual/modutils its an other thing, here we have a circular dependency between virtual/modutils and sys-apps/kmod if the tools USE-flag is set. That circular dep is interesting; sys-apps/kmod only depends on virtual/modutils because it inherits linux-mod.eclass. Could you file about about the circular dependency please? I hesitated to file a bug, because my desktop is running mdev instead of udev (just fine thank, you), and it might not be supported. I've removed module-init-tools. I have virtual/modutils-0 and sys-apps/kmod-12-r1 installed. Here's what happens... [d531][waltdnes][~] emerge -pv1 virtual/modutils These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R] virtual/modutils-0 0 kB [d531][waltdnes][~] emerge -pv1 sys-apps/modutils These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] sys-apps/modutils-2.4.27-r1 0 kB [uninstall ] sys-apps/kmod-12-r1 USE=tools zlib -debug -doc -lzma -static-libs [blocks b ] sys-apps/modutils (sys-apps/modutils is blocking sys-apps/kmod-12-r1) [blocks b ] sys-apps/kmod (sys-apps/kmod is blocking sys-apps/modutils-2.4.27-r1) -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org I don't run desktop environments; I run useful applications
Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail fails to do CNAME lookup for lists.gentoo.org
Am Sonntag, 24. März 2013, 01:39:17 schrieb Sascha Cunz:
Am Sonntag, 24. März 2013, 00:46:56 schrieb Sascha Cunz:
[...]
I've meanwhile found out that it might be related to a DNS lookup bug inside
qmail and found an old patch that should addresses this issue. The patch is
short and looking innocent to me, so I've now setup a local overlay and am
trying to send this out without the smtproute, once again.
Sascha
Okay, this last mail went through smoothly and without any trouble in log
files.
Since I got private mails from others having the same problem, here's exactly
what I did to solve this:
- Create a local overlay
- copy the mail-mta/netmail directory from portage tree
- wget http://www.ckdhr.com/ckd/qmail-103.patch
to the files directory.
- copy netmail-1.06.ebuild to netmail-1.06-r1.ebuild
- insert epatch ${FILESDIR}/qmail-103.patch before the first epatch in
src_unpack()
- rebuild manifest, add the overlay and rebuild netmail
- restart svscan.
This patch from Christopher Davis is actually dated back to 1998; I'm not sure
about copyright issues on the patch, but it seems trivially simple.
Though, I'm wondering why such a simple fix isn't already part of the netmail
ebuild.
Sascha
Re: [gentoo-user] portage insists in pulling in sys-apps/kmod
On Saturday 23 March 2013 15.06:05 Mike Gilbert wrote: On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote: Hello, Some of my servers are running with a kernel without module-support. On these servers something has started to pull in sys-apps/kmod, which when compiled complains about missing modules-support in the kernel (as it should). Doing an equery d sys-apps/kmod I can see that the following two packages depends on sy-apps/kmod: sys-fs/udev-197-r8 (kmod ? =sys-apps/kmod-12) virtual/modutils-0 (sys-apps/kmod[tools]) sys-fs/udev has -kmod in its USE-flags, so that should not be an issue). # emerge --verbose --pretend sys-fs/udev [ebuild R] sys-fs/udev-197-r8 USE=acl openrc -doc -gudev -hwdb -introspection -keymap -kmod (-selinux) -static-libs 0 kB With virtual/modutils its an other thing, here we have a circular dependency between virtual/modutils and sys-apps/kmod if the tools USE-flag is set. That circular dep is interesting; sys-apps/kmod only depends on virtual/modutils because it inherits linux-mod.eclass. Could you file about about the circular dependency please? Bug 462926 (https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=462926) is opened for the circular dependency. My more immediate question is Why is virtual/modutils sys-apps/kmod pulled in at all? and How can I prevent it? Here the output of my emerge update # emerge --update --deep --verbose --reinstall changed-use --with-bdeps y world --pretend --tree These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! [nomerge ] virtual/modutils-0 [ebuild N ] sys-apps/kmod-12-r1 USE=tools zlib -debug -doc -lzma -static-libs 0 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/modutils-0 0 kB Regards, -- Dan Johansson, http://www.dmj.nu *** This message is printed on 100% recycled electrons! ***
Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail fails to do CNAME lookup for lists.gentoo.org
On Mar 24, 2013 5:30 PM, Sascha Cunz sascha...@babbelbox.org wrote:
Am Sonntag, 24. März 2013, 01:39:17 schrieb Sascha Cunz:
Am Sonntag, 24. März 2013, 00:46:56 schrieb Sascha Cunz:
[...]
I've meanwhile found out that it might be related to a DNS lookup bug
inside
qmail and found an old patch that should addresses this issue. The
patch is
short and looking innocent to me, so I've now setup a local overlay and
am
trying to send this out without the smtproute, once again.
Sascha
Okay, this last mail went through smoothly and without any trouble in log
files.
Since I got private mails from others having the same problem, here's
exactly
what I did to solve this:
- Create a local overlay
- copy the mail-mta/netmail directory from portage tree
- wget http://www.ckdhr.com/ckd/qmail-103.patch
to the files directory.
- copy netmail-1.06.ebuild to netmail-1.06-r1.ebuild
- insert epatch ${FILESDIR}/qmail-103.patch before the first epatch in
src_unpack()
- rebuild manifest, add the overlay and rebuild netmail
- restart svscan.
This patch from Christopher Davis is actually dated back to 1998; I'm not
sure
about copyright issues on the patch, but it seems trivially simple.
Though, I'm wondering why such a simple fix isn't already part of the
netmail
ebuild.
Sascha
Thanks for posting the fix! :-)
Now, how about filling a bug... ;-)
Rgds,
--
Re: [gentoo-user] netqmail fails to do CNAME lookup for lists.gentoo.org
Am Sonntag, 24. März 2013, 18:32:12 schrieb Pandu Poluan:[...] Thanks for posting the fix! Now, how about filling a bug... Now, that I know what was going wrong, I did also find reasonable bug report on it: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=323517 Sascha
[gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
Hi Gentoo-users, what an unpleasant surprise awaited me today when I tried to update my systems: gentoo-sources want to be installed everywhere! --- # emerge --pretend --update --deep --newuse --verbose world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild N ] sys-devel/bc-1.06.95 USE=readline -libedit -static 284 kB [ebuild U ] app-admin/eselect-python-2008 [20100321] 64 kB [ebuild N ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.7.10:3.7.10 USE=-build -deblob -symlink 68,335 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/linux-sources-0 0 kB [ebuild R] sys-apps/kmod-12-r1 USE=tools zlib -debug -doc -lzma -static-libs KERNEL=(linux%*) 0 kB Total: 5 packages (1 upgrade, 3 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 68,682 kB --- Why in the heavens name should be gentoo-sources pulled in as dependency of whatever? I have 6 nearly identical machines, and use only one for kernel compilation, so why should I now have gentoo-sources on every system? Can I somehow prevent it? Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] portage insists in pulling in sys-apps/kmod
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Felix Kuperjans fe...@desaster-games.com wrote: Mike Gilbert: On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 1:42 PM, Dan Johansson dan.johans...@dmj.nu wrote: Hello, Some of my servers are running with a kernel without module-support. On these servers something has started to pull in sys-apps/kmod, which when compiled complains about missing modules-support in the kernel (as it should). Doing an equery d sys-apps/kmod I can see that the following two packages depends on sy-apps/kmod: sys-fs/udev-197-r8 (kmod ? =sys-apps/kmod-12) virtual/modutils-0 (sys-apps/kmod[tools]) sys-fs/udev has -kmod in its USE-flags, so that should not be an issue). # emerge --verbose --pretend sys-fs/udev [ebuild R] sys-fs/udev-197-r8 USE=acl openrc -doc -gudev -hwdb -introspection -keymap -kmod (-selinux) -static-libs 0 kB With virtual/modutils its an other thing, here we have a circular dependency between virtual/modutils and sys-apps/kmod if the tools USE-flag is set. That circular dep is interesting; sys-apps/kmod only depends on virtual/modutils because it inherits linux-mod.eclass. Could you file about about the circular dependency please? I recognized another issue possibly caused by inheriting linux-mod.eclass: kmod is pulling in virtual/linux-sources as a dependency, which actually is not necessary at all (and maybe even annoying, it's at least some hundred megabytes). You could also file a bug for that. I have the following in /etc/portage/profile/package.provided to work around it. sys-kernel/vanilla-sources-2.6
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:26:03 +0100, Jarry wrote: [ebuild N ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.7.10:3.7.10 USE=-build -deblob -symlink 68,335 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/linux-sources-0 0 kB [ebuild R] sys-apps/kmod-12-r1 USE=tools zlib -debug -doc -lzma -static-libs KERNEL=(linux%*) 0 kB Why in the heavens name should be gentoo-sources pulled in as dependency of whatever? As a dependency of virtual-sources, which is probably pulled in by kmod. Adding --tree would have told you for sure. I have 6 nearly identical machines, and use only one for kernel compilation, so why should I now have gentoo-sources on every system? Can I somehow prevent it? You may get away with adding gentoo-sources to package.provided. -- Neil Bothwick Bill Gates named his company after his penis. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
On 24-Mar-13 17:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:26:03 +0100, Jarry wrote: [ebuild N ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.7.10:3.7.10 USE=-build -deblob -symlink 68,335 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/linux-sources-0 0 kB [ebuild R] sys-apps/kmod-12-r1 USE=tools zlib -debug -doc -lzma -static-libs KERNEL=(linux%*) 0 kB Why in the heavens name should be gentoo-sources pulled in as dependency of whatever? As a dependency of virtual-sources, which is probably pulled in by kmod. Adding --tree would have told you for sure. You may get away with adding gentoo-sources to package.provided. Thanks, this works (never heard of this file before). But there is one small problem: no wildcards are allowed, so whenever new sorces come I'll have to edit package.provided again, and again... BTW why should kmod depend on kernel-sources? Or even better, why should be kmod installed, if I have static (non-modular) kernel? Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
Am 24.03.2013 18:14, schrieb Jarry: On 24-Mar-13 17:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:26:03 +0100, Jarry wrote: [ebuild N ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.7.10:3.7.10 USE=-build -deblob -symlink 68,335 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/linux-sources-0 0 kB [ebuild R] sys-apps/kmod-12-r1 USE=tools zlib -debug -doc -lzma -static-libs KERNEL=(linux%*) 0 kB Why in the heavens name should be gentoo-sources pulled in as dependency of whatever? As a dependency of virtual-sources, which is probably pulled in by kmod. Adding --tree would have told you for sure. You may get away with adding gentoo-sources to package.provided. Thanks, this works (never heard of this file before). But there is one small problem: no wildcards are allowed, so whenever new sorces come I'll have to edit package.provided again, and again No, that's not true. Here's the quote from the man page: Portage will not attempt to update a package that is listed here unless another package explicitly requires a version that is newer than what has been listed. Dependencies that are satisfied by package.provided entries may cause installed packages satisfying equivalent dependencies to be removed by emerge(1) --depclean actions (see the ACTIONS section of the emerge(1) man page for more information).
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: On 24-Mar-13 17:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 17:26:03 +0100, Jarry wrote: [ebuild N ] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.7.10:3.7.10 USE=-build -deblob -symlink 68,335 kB [ebuild N ] virtual/linux-sources-0 0 kB [ebuild R] sys-apps/kmod-12-r1 USE=tools zlib -debug -doc -lzma -static-libs KERNEL=(linux%*) 0 kB Why in the heavens name should be gentoo-sources pulled in as dependency of whatever? As a dependency of virtual-sources, which is probably pulled in by kmod. Adding --tree would have told you for sure. You may get away with adding gentoo-sources to package.provided. Thanks, this works (never heard of this file before). But there is one small problem: no wildcards are allowed, so whenever new sorces come I'll have to edit package.provided again, and again... BTW why should kmod depend on kernel-sources? Or even better, why should be kmod installed, if I have static (non-modular) kernel? Because your use case is not standard. The normal situation for users with kmod installed (and you have already kmod installed, since in your --pretend run appears as to be reinstalled) is for them to use kernel modules. The developers cannot handle every possible combination of configurations, so defaults are set for the least weird cases, or the common case even. Your setup is not the norm; therefore, it depends on you to keep it as you like it. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 18:39, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, this works (never heard of this file before). But there is one small problem: no wildcards are allowed, so whenever new sorces come I'll have to edit package.provided again, and again... BTW why should kmod depend on kernel-sources? Or even better, why should be kmod installed, if I have static (non-modular) kernel? Because your use case is not standard. The normal situation for users with kmod installed (and you have already kmod installed, since in your --pretend run appears as to be reinstalled) is for them to use kernel modules. The developers cannot handle every possible combination of configurations, so defaults are set for the least weird cases, or the common case even. Your setup is not the norm; therefore, it depends on you to keep it as you like it. Regards. The case is actually quite common; Linux *sources* are only needed for building kernels on the local machine (and - if used - additional modules like nvidia-drivers). Anyone who does not build the kernel on the local machine, e.g. taking stock kernels from Debian/Fedora/..., kernel provided by netboot/openvz/Xen domUs or build them remotely will almost never need linux-sources installed. BTW this will also add full kernel sources to all stage3 archives, increasing their size quite significantly. Regards, Felix
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:41:18 +0100, Felix Kuperjans wrote: BTW this will also add full kernel sources to all stage3 archives, increasing their size quite significantly. Stage 3 archives only contains necessary packages for which there is no choice. They don't include a cron daemon or a system logger for that reason, so they won't include kernel sources. -- Neil Bothwick There's more to life than sex, beer and computers. Not a lot more admittedly... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 12:41 PM, Felix Kuperjans fe...@desaster-games.com wrote: On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 18:39, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks, this works (never heard of this file before). But there is one small problem: no wildcards are allowed, so whenever new sorces come I'll have to edit package.provided again, and again... BTW why should kmod depend on kernel-sources? Or even better, why should be kmod installed, if I have static (non-modular) kernel? Because your use case is not standard. The normal situation for users with kmod installed (and you have already kmod installed, since in your --pretend run appears as to be reinstalled) is for them to use kernel modules. The developers cannot handle every possible combination of configurations, so defaults are set for the least weird cases, or the common case even. Your setup is not the norm; therefore, it depends on you to keep it as you like it. Regards. The case is actually quite common; Linux *sources* are only needed for Even if it is quite common (which I doubt) is not the norm. The Gentoo Handbook[1] and Gentoo Linux Kernel Guide[2] only discusses one method to get kernel which you can boot: installing one of the several sources packages available under sys-kernel/*-sources, and configuring it manually or via genkernel. building kernels on the local machine (and - if used - additional modules like nvidia-drivers). Anyone who does not build the kernel on the local machine, e.g. taking stock kernels from Debian/Fedora/..., kernel provided by netboot/openvz/Xen domUs or build them remotely will almost never need linux-sources installed. Yeah, and you can install the kernel that your cousin Billy compiled for you. Neither of those methods are the norm, as covered by the Gentoo documentation, and therefore if you use those methods, you are on your own. BTW this will also add full kernel sources to all stage3 archives, increasing their size quite significantly. Which has nothing to do with the topic at hand. Regards. [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?full=1#book_part1_chap7 [2] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-kernel.xml -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
On 24-Mar-13 18:39, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: BTW why should kmod depend on kernel-sources? Or even better, why should be kmod installed, if I have static (non-modular) kernel? Because your use case is not standard. The normal situation for users with kmod installed (and you have already kmod installed, since in your --pretend run appears as to be reinstalled) is for them to use kernel modules. The developers cannot handle every possible combination of configurations, so defaults are set for the least weird cases, or the common case even. But what are kernel-sources good for after kernel has been compiled? They take some disk-space (~700MB in my case!), so I think it is quite logical to compile kernel, install test it, and after that get rid of kernel-sources. And I still do not know what does kmod need from kernel-sources. Some part of kernel source-code? Strange is, up to now kmod was satisfied even without kernel-sources... I know some other packages look for kernel-sources, but issue only warning if can not found any (i.e. udev). But why does kmod need kernel-sources so badly it pulls them as dependency? Jarry -- ___ This mailbox accepts e-mails only from selected mailing-lists! Everything else is considered to be spam and therefore deleted.
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 2:57 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote: On 24-Mar-13 18:39, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: BTW why should kmod depend on kernel-sources? Or even better, why should be kmod installed, if I have static (non-modular) kernel? Because your use case is not standard. The normal situation for users with kmod installed (and you have already kmod installed, since in your --pretend run appears as to be reinstalled) is for them to use kernel modules. The developers cannot handle every possible combination of configurations, so defaults are set for the least weird cases, or the common case even. But what are kernel-sources good for after kernel has been compiled? They take some disk-space (~700MB in my case!), so I think it is quite logical to compile kernel, install test it, and after that get rid of kernel-sources. And I still do not know what does kmod need from kernel-sources. Some part of kernel source-code? Strange is, up to now kmod was satisfied even without kernel-sources... I know some other packages look for kernel-sources, but issue only warning if can not found any (i.e. udev). But why does kmod need kernel-sources so badly it pulls them as dependency? It doesn't; this is just a side effect of inheriting linux-mod.eclass. The developer involved is trying to come up with a better solution right now.
Re: [gentoo-user] Output of sensor k10temp-pci-00c3
On Fri, 2013-03-22 at 20:58 +0100, Sascha Cunz wrote: In the recent thread system freezes during compiles, Carlos Henderson showed the output of $(sensors), among them the output of the k10temp-pci-00c3. I stopped trusting that sensor. After some hours of idle, it shows me: k10temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1:+16.8°C (high = +70.0°C) (crit = +70.0°C, hyst = +67.0°C) 16.8°C is roughly 4°C _below_ the room temperature. If I'd boot to Windows right now, the mainboard-manufacturer's system utility shows a CPU temperature of 25°C (which is more or less the usual value it shows for Windows when idle). My CPU is: processor : 5 vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 21 model : 1 model name : AMD FX(tm)-6200 Six-Core Processor stepping: 2 microcode : 0x6000626 running on an Asrock mainboard (Kernel is a gentoo-3.8.1-r1). My question to the list is: Could this strange temperature be realistic? Does anyone have similar observations with AMD-Bulldozers? Sascha Hi Sascha, As a comparison, here's my machines processor: vendor_id : AuthenticAMD cpu family : 16 model : 10 model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1100T Processor stepping: 0 microcode : 0x1bf From the kernel document hwmon/k10temp has a couple points: 1. The driver detects the mainboard socket type and not the processors actual capabilities. If an AM3 processor is on an AM2+ mainboard, driver options may be required. 2. The temperature reported is relative to the point at which the system must supply the maximum cooling for the processors specified maximum case temperature and maximum thermal power dissipation. It would appear that the temperature reported is quite possibly correct, although not intuitive or easily verified as valid. Hope that helps. Regards, Carlos
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 19:41:18 +0100, Felix Kuperjans wrote: BTW this will also add full kernel sources to all stage3 archives, increasing their size quite significantly. Stage 3 archives only contains necessary packages for which there is no choice. They don't include a cron daemon or a system logger for that reason, so they won't include kernel sources. AFAICT stage3 archives include everything of @system. virtual/dev-manager usually pulls in udev, which might pull in kmod (depending on USE flags) and virtual/modutils is part of system, which by default uses kmod. So kmod is part of system and it then requires virtual/linux-sources as a dependency, so they are now part of system as well. That wasn't the case some days ago, and IMHO linux-sources should not be part of @system in the future. Regards, Felix
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I prevent gentoo-sources being installed?
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 20:27:00 +0100, Felix Kuperjans wrote: Stage 3 archives only contains necessary packages for which there is no choice. They don't include a cron daemon or a system logger for that reason, so they won't include kernel sources. AFAICT stage3 archives include everything of @system. They don't. That's why you have to satisfy some virtuals manually at install time. virtual/dev-manager usually pulls in udev, which might pull in kmod (depending on USE flags) and virtual/modutils is part of system, which by default uses kmod. So kmod is part of system and it then requires virtual/linux-sources as a dependency, so they are now part of system as well. As has already been explained, this is an unintended side effect which is being fixed, it shouldn't affect the stage 3 tarballs. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 15: Extinct Life signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Using Amazon Web Services with gentoo
Does anyone of you use the Amazon EC2 service with gentoo-based instances? I just dig into the provided services there and wonder how to possibly find a useful use case for me. OK, I could rent a High-CPU-instance and emerge libreoffice in a few minutes maybe ;-) But I am interested if any of you use this and what for? Especially: are there gentoo-based AMIs to be recommended? I assume that it won't make much sense to try to setup a mail gateway up there ... moving IP-adresses etc. seem to make that rather inconvenient and a plain VPS somewhere might be better and cheaper? Another case is S3: I research stuff like s3fs and doing encrypted backups via duplicity and even amanda (using S3 as storage). That looks promising for some use cases ... Greets, Stefan
[gentoo-user] Static entries in /proc and /dev
I'm doing some disk changes and would like to know; 1. Is there anything static in /proc? (does the kernel create all the entries in proc?) 2. What are the non-udev entries in /dev. IIRC its console and zero. Cheers
Re: [gentoo-user] Static entries in /proc and /dev
On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 9:08 PM, Adam Carter adamcart...@gmail.com wrote: I'm doing some disk changes and would like to know; 1. Is there anything static in /proc? (does the kernel create all the entries in proc?) AFAIK, no to the first question, yes to the second question. At least if I remount my / and I do a ls /proc, I get nothing. 2. What are the non-udev entries in /dev. IIRC its console and zero. I've been using console, null and tty1 for years, but I don't even know if they are still necessary. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] Static entries in /proc and /dev
Adam Carter wrote: I'm doing some disk changes and would like to know; 1. Is there anything static in /proc? (does the kernel create all the entries in proc?) 2. What are the non-udev entries in /dev. IIRC its console and zero. Cheers As far as I know, /proc is generated by the kernel. I always make sure the directory is there but never put anything in it. I'm not sure about zero but I'm pretty sure you need null too. I'd put one there just in case. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words!
Re: [gentoo-user] Static entries in /proc and /dev
Thanks all - confirmed it is just null and console. I'm rebooted with / on an ssd now.
