Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel panic - not syncing: No working init found.
> > On my boxes with swap files, kernel 5.7.0 barfs; > > # file /swapfile > /swapfile: Linux/i386 swap file (new style), version 1 (4K pages), size > 2097151 pages, no label > # swapon -a > swapon: /swapfile: swapon failed: Invalid argument > > I havent looked into it yet as they're rarely used at all. What kernel are > you using? > FYI this issue is due to fallocate creating files with holes (found via dmesg | grep -i swap). Once I recreated the files with dd if=/dev/zero they were good.
[gentoo-user] Encrypting a hard drive's data. Best method.
Howdy, I think I got a old 3TB hard drive to work. After dd'ing it, redoing partitions and such, it seems to be working. Right now, I'm copying a bunch of data to it to see how it holds up. Oh, it's a PMR drive too. lol Once I'm pretty sure it is alive and working well, I want to play with encryption. At some point, I plan to encrypt /home. I found a bit of info with startpage but some is dated. This is one link that seems to be from this year, at least updated this year. https://linoxide.com/linux-how-to/encrypt-linux-filesystem/ It seems like a nice one since it has commands and what it should look like when it is performing the commands. I like knowing what I'm doing sort of matches what the howto shows. It also seems to use LVM which I will be using as well. I think I can follow that and get a working encrypted storage. Later, I can attempt this on /home without doing it blind. I also have the options in the kernel as well. I'll post them at the bottom. I enabled quite a lot a while back. ;-) Is this a secure method or is there a more secure way? Is there any known issues with using this? Anyone here use this method? Keep in mind, LVM. BTFRS, SP?, may come later. One other question, can one change the password every once in a while? Or once set, you stuck with it from then on? If anyone has links to even better howtos, I'd love to check them out. Dale :-) :-) root@fireball / # zcat /proc/config.gz | grep crypt | grep =y CONFIG_ARCH_HAS_MEM_ENCRYPT=y CONFIG_DM_CRYPT=y CONFIG_CRYPTO=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_ALGAPI=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_ALGAPI2=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_AEAD=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_AEAD2=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_SKCIPHER=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_SKCIPHER2=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_HASH=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_HASH2=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_RNG=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_RNG2=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_RNG_DEFAULT=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_AKCIPHER2=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_AKCIPHER=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_KPP2=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_ACOMP2=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_MANAGER=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_MANAGER2=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_MANAGER_DISABLE_TESTS=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_GF128MUL=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_NULL=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_NULL2=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_CRYPTD=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_AUTHENC=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_SIMD=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_GLUE_HELPER_X86=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_RSA=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_ECHAINIV=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_CBC=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_ECB=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_LRW=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_XTS=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_NHPOLY1305=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_NHPOLY1305_SSE2=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_NHPOLY1305_AVX2=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_ESSIV=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_HMAC=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_CRC32C=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_XXHASH=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_BLAKE2B=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_CRCT10DIF=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_MD5=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_RMD128=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_RMD160=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_RMD256=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_RMD320=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA1=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA1_SSSE3=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA256_SSSE3=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA512_SSSE3=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA256=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_SHA512=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_WP512=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_AES_TI=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_ARC4=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_BLOWFISH=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_BLOWFISH_COMMON=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_BLOWFISH_X86_64=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_CAMELLIA=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_CAMELLIA_X86_64=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_CAMELLIA_AESNI_AVX_X86_64=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_CAMELLIA_AESNI_AVX2_X86_64=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_DES=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_SERPENT=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_SERPENT_SSE2_X86_64=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH_COMMON=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH_X86_64=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_TWOFISH_X86_64_3WAY=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_ANSI_CPRNG=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_DRBG_MENU=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_DRBG_HMAC=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_DRBG=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_JITTERENTROPY=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_USER_API=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_USER_API_HASH=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_USER_API_SKCIPHER=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_USER_API_RNG=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_LIB_AES=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_LIB_ARC4=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_LIB_DES=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_LIB_POLY1305_GENERIC=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_LIB_SHA256=y CONFIG_CRYPTO_HW=y root@fireball / # Just wanted to have a few extras. ROFL
Re: [gentoo-user] Got a json file from YouTube...
On 06/06 05:29, David Haller wrote: > Hello, > > On Fri, 05 Jun 2020, tu...@posteo.de wrote: > >Is there something in portage, which is recommended to > >reformat/display this json-input into something more > >readable...? > > json_pp from dev-lang/perl which you should already have > installed ;) Example usage: > > $ json_pp < some.json | less > > HTH, > -dnh > > -- > A mouse is a device used to focus xterms. > Hi, thanks a lot ! Both application will help me a lot! :) Cheers! Meino
Re: [gentoo-user] Got a json file from YouTube...
Hello, On Fri, 05 Jun 2020, tu...@posteo.de wrote: >Is there something in portage, which is recommended to >reformat/display this json-input into something more >readable...? json_pp from dev-lang/perl which you should already have installed ;) Example usage: $ json_pp < some.json | less HTH, -dnh -- A mouse is a device used to focus xterms.
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive screws
Jack wrote: > Were you thinking about this? https://xkcd.com/927/ > > On 2020.06.05 22:24, William Kenworthy wrote: >> No, there are a lot of different sizes used across brands - and there >> are metric and imperial threads which is likely the cause of your almost >> fitting ones. >> >> What standard? - if don't like it, wait a few minutes and another will >> come along ... >> >> :) >> >> BillK >> While sad, this is sort of funny. It confirms my thinking tho, a hard drive screw is not a hard drive screw unless it says Dell, Gateway, WD, Seagate, Toshiba etc etc etc on it. This means I may have to buy one of those divider thingys that is larger just for me to be able to keep the hard drive screws separate, since they are different. We have reds, purples, greens and all sort of color codes for hard drives, maybe they need to color code their screws as well. :/ Now to go find a grab bag or something. This sucks. Dale :-) :-) P. S. It seems those older not working enclosures may have caused issues with my drive. I'm having to dd the first one, redo the partitions and still having issues getting it to work. May be a doorstop when this is over.
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive screws
Were you thinking about this? https://xkcd.com/927/ On 2020.06.05 22:24, William Kenworthy wrote: No, there are a lot of different sizes used across brands - and there are metric and imperial threads which is likely the cause of your almost fitting ones. What standard? - if don't like it, wait a few minutes and another will come along ... :) BillK On 6/6/20 10:06 am, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I know this sounds like a silly question and I never thought I would > have to ask such a basic question like this. I bought a external hard > drive enclosure and was trying to install a hard drive I had laying > around. The screws that come with the enclosure doesn't fit. The > screws have a coarse thread and it seems the drive case has fine > threads. It's the only screws that come with it so it has to be for > that purpose. Anyway, I dug around my screw bin and found a few > screws that fit better but still not quite right. I went to ebay and > typed in 100 hard drive screws. I want to buy a bag of them to have > around when I need them. It's amazing what I got for results. Some > list a brand they fit. Some say laptop, few mention a desktop > system. Looking at pics, some seem to be coarse thread, some sort of > fine thread. Some standard, some metric. Some are phillips head and > some look like allen type or star type heads. I'm sitting here > wondering, is this nuts or what? Pardon the pun there. It's just > crazy. lol > > Is there not a standard sized screw that should fit all 3.5" and even > 2.5" drives?? Whether they are spinning rust, SSD or the outdated > floppy drives. Are they THAT different or are the pictures > misleading? If there is a standard or does WD take one size screw > while Seagate takes another and Toshiba yet another? If someone has > found a size that fits them all, could you please share the sizes or a > link so I can have something to go by? I already have a few hundred > screws that don't fit. I really don't need yet another 100 to add to > the don't fit anything pile. > > What happened to the simple days where things would just fit like they > should?? ^_O > > Thanks for any hints. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > P. S. The enclosure I got is a eSATA or USB type. I use the eSATA > connector. Found it on Amazon and it's a Rosewill. The enclosure not > long ago was about $60 each. I got two for $54 with free shipping. > It has a temp controlled fan too. I bought other USB only enclosures > that wasn't worth the shipping much less the cost of the item. I > think I had one that worked fairly well but was really slow. Maybe it > was USB2 but I suspect it was defaulting to USB1. A few others failed > after a short time, I suspect USB issues myself. I still need to run > up on a good deal on a PMR type 8TB drive, designed for 24/7 use. I > need to expand /home. It's at 70% right now. o_O
Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive screws
No, there are a lot of different sizes used across brands - and there are metric and imperial threads which is likely the cause of your almost fitting ones. What standard? - if don't like it, wait a few minutes and another will come along ... :) BillK On 6/6/20 10:06 am, Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > I know this sounds like a silly question and I never thought I would > have to ask such a basic question like this. I bought a external hard > drive enclosure and was trying to install a hard drive I had laying > around. The screws that come with the enclosure doesn't fit. The > screws have a coarse thread and it seems the drive case has fine > threads. It's the only screws that come with it so it has to be for > that purpose. Anyway, I dug around my screw bin and found a few > screws that fit better but still not quite right. I went to ebay and > typed in 100 hard drive screws. I want to buy a bag of them to have > around when I need them. It's amazing what I got for results. Some > list a brand they fit. Some say laptop, few mention a desktop > system. Looking at pics, some seem to be coarse thread, some sort of > fine thread. Some standard, some metric. Some are phillips head and > some look like allen type or star type heads. I'm sitting here > wondering, is this nuts or what? Pardon the pun there. It's just > crazy. lol > > Is there not a standard sized screw that should fit all 3.5" and even > 2.5" drives?? Whether they are spinning rust, SSD or the outdated > floppy drives. Are they THAT different or are the pictures > misleading? If there is a standard or does WD take one size screw > while Seagate takes another and Toshiba yet another? If someone has > found a size that fits them all, could you please share the sizes or a > link so I can have something to go by? I already have a few hundred > screws that don't fit. I really don't need yet another 100 to add to > the don't fit anything pile. > > What happened to the simple days where things would just fit like they > should?? ^_O > > Thanks for any hints. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > P. S. The enclosure I got is a eSATA or USB type. I use the eSATA > connector. Found it on Amazon and it's a Rosewill. The enclosure not > long ago was about $60 each. I got two for $54 with free shipping. > It has a temp controlled fan too. I bought other USB only enclosures > that wasn't worth the shipping much less the cost of the item. I > think I had one that worked fairly well but was really slow. Maybe it > was USB2 but I suspect it was defaulting to USB1. A few others failed > after a short time, I suspect USB issues myself. I still need to run > up on a good deal on a PMR type 8TB drive, designed for 24/7 use. I > need to expand /home. It's at 70% right now. o_O pEpkey.asc Description: application/pgp-keys
[gentoo-user] Hard drive screws
Howdy, I know this sounds like a silly question and I never thought I would have to ask such a basic question like this. I bought a external hard drive enclosure and was trying to install a hard drive I had laying around. The screws that come with the enclosure doesn't fit. The screws have a coarse thread and it seems the drive case has fine threads. It's the only screws that come with it so it has to be for that purpose. Anyway, I dug around my screw bin and found a few screws that fit better but still not quite right. I went to ebay and typed in 100 hard drive screws. I want to buy a bag of them to have around when I need them. It's amazing what I got for results. Some list a brand they fit. Some say laptop, few mention a desktop system. Looking at pics, some seem to be coarse thread, some sort of fine thread. Some standard, some metric. Some are phillips head and some look like allen type or star type heads. I'm sitting here wondering, is this nuts or what? Pardon the pun there. It's just crazy. lol Is there not a standard sized screw that should fit all 3.5" and even 2.5" drives?? Whether they are spinning rust, SSD or the outdated floppy drives. Are they THAT different or are the pictures misleading? If there is a standard or does WD take one size screw while Seagate takes another and Toshiba yet another? If someone has found a size that fits them all, could you please share the sizes or a link so I can have something to go by? I already have a few hundred screws that don't fit. I really don't need yet another 100 to add to the don't fit anything pile. What happened to the simple days where things would just fit like they should?? ^_O Thanks for any hints. Dale :-) :-) P. S. The enclosure I got is a eSATA or USB type. I use the eSATA connector. Found it on Amazon and it's a Rosewill. The enclosure not long ago was about $60 each. I got two for $54 with free shipping. It has a temp controlled fan too. I bought other USB only enclosures that wasn't worth the shipping much less the cost of the item. I think I had one that worked fairly well but was really slow. Maybe it was USB2 but I suspect it was defaulting to USB1. A few others failed after a short time, I suspect USB issues myself. I still need to run up on a good deal on a PMR type 8TB drive, designed for 24/7 use. I need to expand /home. It's at 70% right now. o_O
Re: [gentoo-user] new genkernel problem
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 15:57:07 -0500, Dale wrote: > When you install your kernel, do you use make install or do you copy the > kernel to /boot manually? I do mine manually but also copy it manually > as well. That makes it hard for me to recall how to use the dracut > command. It requires a kernel version etc etc. I use make install. If I trust the makefile to build the kernel and it's module tree, and copy the modules to the correct location, why wouldn't I trust it to copy a single file to /boot at the same time? > If you do copy yours manually to /boot, what command do you use for > dracut? Maybe I'm doing it a hard way or something and you have a > easier method. cd /usr/src/linux make all modules_install install dracut --kver=$(cat include/config/kernel.release) It doesn't get much easier ;-) -- Neil Bothwick DCE seeks DTE for mutual exchange of data. pgpzVQLOFJbTI.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] new genkernel problem
On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 16:48:30 -0400, Jack wrote: > I used to do all my kernel configuration and setup manually on my old > box (with legacy grub). When I upgraded to my new PC with a Ryzen 5 > 2600 and started using lvm, I ended up needing an initramfs, and > managed to get genkernel working for me, without TOO much of an > effort. Right now, it's run genkernel, and when I'm happy, run > grub-mkconfig, and it works. If I ever go to a manually crafted > grub.cfg, I might consider a different way of creating my intramfs, but > I'd rather not introduce yet another moving part if I don't really need > to. dracut uses an initramfs naming convention recognised by grub-mkconfig. -- Neil Bothwick Use Colgate toothpaste or end up with teeth like a Ferengi. pgpdioNYzEx0o.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] new genkernel problem
Andrew Udvare wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 15:02, Jack wrote: >> Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions. >> >> Jack > I would keep GCC 9 for now. I've run into a few issues with GCC 10 > compiling various packages so I have kept GCC 9 on my system. There's > not some serious detriment to not using GCC 10 for 99% of people. Most > distros still use an older version. > > Also, have you considered trying Dracut for initramfs generation? I > don't know how well it works with genkernel as I don't use that (I > manually configure my kernels). > > When you install your kernel, do you use make install or do you copy the kernel to /boot manually? I do mine manually but also copy it manually as well. That makes it hard for me to recall how to use the dracut command. It requires a kernel version etc etc. If you do copy yours manually to /boot, what command do you use for dracut? Maybe I'm doing it a hard way or something and you have a easier method. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] new genkernel problem
On 2020.06.05 16:24, Andrew Udvare wrote: On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 15:02, Jack wrote: > Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions. > > Jack I would keep GCC 9 for now. I've run into a few issues with GCC 10 compiling various packages so I have kept GCC 9 on my system. There's not some serious detriment to not using GCC 10 for 99% of people. Most distros still use an older version. Also, have you considered trying Dracut for initramfs generation? I don't know how well it works with genkernel as I don't use that (I manually configure my kernels). Thanks for the suggestion, and I do still have gcc-9.3 installed. However, when gcc-10 was marked stable, I worked on recompiling almost my entire system with it. I have very few packages that simply can't deal with it yet, and I suspect a few of those are not sufficiently supported at all that they have a good chance of getting tree-cleaned. Sort of parallel to getting rid of python-2. I used to do all my kernel configuration and setup manually on my old box (with legacy grub). When I upgraded to my new PC with a Ryzen 5 2600 and started using lvm, I ended up needing an initramfs, and managed to get genkernel working for me, without TOO much of an effort. Right now, it's run genkernel, and when I'm happy, run grub-mkconfig, and it works. If I ever go to a manually crafted grub.cfg, I might consider a different way of creating my intramfs, but I'd rather not introduce yet another moving part if I don't really need to. Anyway, I'm writing this running my shiny new 5.7 kernel, having run genkernel with --no-gpg. I had not explicitly turned that on; I suppose it's just the default, unless I missed something in the config file.
Re: [gentoo-user] new genkernel problem
On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 at 15:02, Jack wrote: > Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions. > > Jack I would keep GCC 9 for now. I've run into a few issues with GCC 10 compiling various packages so I have kept GCC 9 on my system. There's not some serious detriment to not using GCC 10 for 99% of people. Most distros still use an older version. Also, have you considered trying Dracut for initramfs generation? I don't know how well it works with genkernel as I don't use that (I manually configure my kernels).
[gentoo-user] new genkernel problem
I'm currently running a 5.6.10 kernel, compiled with genkernel along with an initramfs. That was compiled with gcc-9.3.0. Since then, using gcc-10.1.0, I have not successfully run genkernel. Initially it was kernel compile failures due to the -fnocommon bug. With a patch, the kernel compile completed fine, and the patch is no longer needed for 5.6.16 or 5.7.0. However, all recent attempts at running genkernel fail during creation of initramfs. (This is genkernel-, re-emerged yesterday.) * Gentoo Linux Genkernel; Version 4.0.7-4-g06acd6f-git * Using genkernel configuration from '/etc/genkernel.conf' ... * Running with options: --lvm --firmware --microcode --kernel-append-localversion=-gcc-10 all * Working with Linux kernel 5.7.0-gentoo-x86_64-gcc-10-01 for x86_64 * Using kernel config file '/etc/kernels/kernel-config-5.7.0-gentoo-x86_64-gcc-10-01' ... * * Note: The version above is subject to change (depends on config and status of kernel sources). * kernel: >> Initializing ... * >> Running 'make clean' ... * >> --no-mrproper is set; Skipping 'make mrproper' ... * >> --no-oldconfig is set; Skipping 'make oldconfig' ... * >> Running 'make olddefconfig' due to changed kernel options ... * >> Kernel version has changed (probably due to config change) since genkernel start: *We are now building Linux kernel 5.7.0-gentoo-x86_64-gcc-10 for x86_64 ... * >> Compiling 5.7.0-gentoo-x86_64-gcc-10 bzImage ... * >> Compiling 5.7.0-gentoo-x86_64-gcc-10 modules ... * >> Installing 5.7.0-gentoo-x86_64-gcc-10 modules (and stripping) ... * >> Generating module dependency data ... * >> Compiling out-of-tree module(s) ... * >> Saving config of successful build to '/etc/kernels/kernel-config-5.7.0-gentoo-x86_64-gcc-10' ... * initramfs: >> Initializing ... * >> Appending devices cpio data ... * >> Appending base_layout cpio data ... * >> Appending auxilary cpio data ... * >> Appending busybox cpio data ... * >> Appending blkid cpio data ... * >> Appending gpg cpio data ... * ERROR: Command 'nice -n10 make -j8 --load-average 10 V=1' failed! * ERROR: create_initramfs(): append_data(): append_gpg(): populate_binpkg(): gkbuild(): Failed to create binpkg of gnupg-1.4.23! and, of course, I wouldn't really expect gcc-10 to be able to compile gnupg-1.4.23. (The detailed log does show the multiple definition errors.) That version of gnupg is coded in the ebuild, so hopefully there is SOME reason for selecting it. Also - I now see that I can give --no-gpg to genkernel to omit gnupg from the initramfs - that's running now. I'd be surprised if I am really the only one facing this, but I haven't found any other reports. (It's quite possible my search-fu isn't.) I don't know exactly when this started showing up, since I THOUGHT I had run genkernel successfully since then, but although there are several vmlinuz and sysmap files in /boot, there is only the single initramfs which I currently boot with. Thanks for any thoughts or suggestions. Jack
Re: [gentoo-user] Got a json file from YouTube...
tu...@posteo.de; 2020-06-05T19:26:32+0200: > Hi, > > via https://youtuberandomcomment.com/ ->Download all is it possible > to download all comments of a YouTube-Videoas a json file, which > contains exactly one, very long line. > > This is exactly the formatting I would prefer to read > threaded comments ; > > Is there something in portage, which is recommended to > reformat/display this json-input into something more > readable...? > > Cheers! > Meino > > > Hello, I'm usually using app-misc/jq for all my json needs. It isn't exactly a json pretty-printer but more of a swiss army knife for extracting data from json. It does formatting, tho :) You could also try your Web User Agent. My Firefox already does format json, so maybe you could try open it there if you just want to read it. Regards, garantiertnicht
[gentoo-user] Got a json file from YouTube...
Hi, via https://youtuberandomcomment.com/ ->Download all is it possible to download all comments of a YouTube-Videoas a json file, which contains exactly one, very long line. This is exactly the formatting I would prefer to read threaded comments ; Is there something in portage, which is recommended to reformat/display this json-input into something more readable...? Cheers! Meino
Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 23:42:50 +0100, Ashley Dixon wrote: > >> Providing he's just adding the line to a package.use file with a text >> editor, that's just manually doing the work of etc-update. We need >> the `emerge --info docutils` output to see full information about his >> Python environment. > Except that etc-update also adds a backtrace as comments, allowing him to > trace the cause. > > That backtrace is in the OP's original post. The first one doesn't give much of one, none really. The second one gives a list of packages. Either way, it was a circular problem. It seems the emerge --info for the package gave the clue which I don't see anywhere in the output of emerge. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?
On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 23:42:50 +0100, Ashley Dixon wrote: > Providing he's just adding the line to a package.use file with a text > editor, that's just manually doing the work of etc-update. We need > the `emerge --info docutils` output to see full information about his > Python environment. Except that etc-update also adds a backtrace as comments, allowing him to trace the cause. -- Neil Bothwick Despite the cost of living it remains popular. pgpljwuIj4zwZ.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature