[gentoo-user] biosdevname or equivalent for disks: did the order change on a specific, recent, kernel version?

[Larry the Plumber]

Hi!
A bit of history first: my Fedora, then (after reinstall) my openSUSE
then (after reinstall) my Gentoo failed during boot. I thought it was
something related to dracut so I've been adding `hostonly = false` to
dracut.conf on all my home machines.

In summary, yesterday it failed on my Gentoo so I had to investigate.
* I had enable `unstable` use flags for the kernel only.
* I hadn't double-check the boot entries created.
* Power went off (no UPS yet) so I booted the new kernel.
* It didn't boot. I fixed two things: changed the partition id of
LUKSed swap from swap id to LVM id, to prevent systemd attempting to
mount it at boot (and failing). Secondly, I checked the fstab and
noticed all dev nodes were wrong (I have two SSD).
* After fixing the dev nodes in fstab the system booted properly.

This probably explains the Gentoo failure, since other distros (and
me, starting some day) use UUID in fstab.

So, my question is:
Has anyone any input on mysterious failures across several distros,
including Gentoo, around kernel 6.9.x <> 6.10.x?

Re: [gentoo-user] glibc-2.27 is broken

[the]

On 10/30/2018 12:52 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
> NB above : the error you cite is '4' :
> this shows there are other errors '1' '2' '3' above, which are more important.
> It would help if you find them & report them to the list.

Thanks, but that's the whole gcc output I got.
BTW the code for this is:

$ cat main.c
#include 

int main(int argc, char **argv) {

printf("hello world\n");
return 0;

}

[gentoo-user] glibc-2.27 is broken

[the]

Hello,

I have upgraded to sys-libs/glibc-2.27-r6
and it broke the system.

I can't even compile a hello world test program in c.

I always get the following linking error:

$ gcc main.c -o main.elf
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/7.3.0/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/7.3.0/../../../../lib64/crtn.o(a.debug_info+0x10003):
reloc against `*UND*': error 4
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/7.3.0/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:
final link failed: Nonrepresentable section on output
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status

When I try to install something it fails during configuration at
compiler sanity check.

Should I report this as a bug or is there's something wrong with me?

System info:

Binutils 2.30-r2
gcc 7.3.0

# emerge -pvq '=sys-devel/gcc-7.3.0-r3'
[ebuild   R   ] sys-devel/gcc-7.3.0-r3  USE="cilk cxx fortran go
graphite (multilib) nls nptl openmp pch pgo* (pie) sanitize ssp vtv
(-altivec) -debug -doc (-fixed-point) (-hardened) (-jit) (-libssp) -mpx
-objc -objc++ -objc-gc -regression-test -vanilla"





# emerge --info '=sys-libs/glibc-2.27-r6'
Portage 2.3.49 (python 3.6.5-final-0, default/linux/amd64/17.0/desktop,
gcc-7.3.0, glibc-2.27-r6, 4.12.12-gentoo x86_64)
=
 System Settings
=
System uname:
Linux-4.12.12-gentoo-x86_64-AMD_Opteron-tm-_Processor_6320-with-gentoo-2.4.1
KiB Mem:32921172 total,  30174684 free
KiB Swap:   33303572 total,  33303572 free
Timestamp of repository gentoo: Mon, 29 Oct 2018 22:00:01 +
Head commit of repository gentoo: 0d1f9865d36f3c4efac70f236d962901a113b8b4
sh bash 4.4_p12
ld GNU ld (Gentoo 2.30 p2) 2.30.0
app-shells/bash:  4.4_p12::gentoo
dev-lang/perl:5.24.3-r1::gentoo
dev-lang/python:  2.7.14-r1::gentoo, 3.4.5::gentoo,
3.5.5::gentoo, 3.6.5::gentoo
dev-util/cmake:   3.9.6::gentoo
dev-util/pkgconfig:   0.29.2::gentoo
sys-apps/baselayout:  2.4.1-r2::gentoo
sys-apps/openrc:  0.34.11::gentoo
sys-apps/sandbox: 2.13::gentoo
sys-devel/autoconf:   2.13::gentoo, 2.69-r4::gentoo
sys-devel/automake:   1.12.6::gentoo, 1.14.1::gentoo, 1.15.1-r2::gentoo
sys-devel/binutils:   2.26.1::gentoo, 2.28.1::gentoo,
2.29.1-r1::gentoo, 2.30-r2::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc:4.9.3::gentoo, 5.4.0-r3::gentoo,
6.4.0-r1::gentoo, 7.3.0-r3::gentoo
sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.8-r1::gentoo
sys-devel/libtool:2.4.6-r3::gentoo
sys-devel/make:   4.2.1-r3::gentoo
sys-kernel/linux-headers: 4.13::gentoo (virtual/os-headers)
sys-libs/glibc:   2.27-r6::gentoo
Repositories:

gentoo
location: /usr/portage
sync-type: rsync
sync-uri: rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage
priority: -1000
sync-rsync-extra-opts:
sync-rsync-verify-metamanifest: yes
sync-rsync-verify-jobs: 1
sync-rsync-verify-max-age: 24

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="amd64"
ACCEPT_LICENSE="* -@EULA"
CBUILD="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=native -mno-tbm -mno-bmi -mno-avx -mno-aes -mno-sha
-mno-fma -mno-xop -mno-lwp -mno-abm -mno-3dnow -mno-sse3 -O2 -pipe"
CHOST="x86_64-pc-linux-gnu"
CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt"
CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/dconf /etc/env.d
/etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/gentoo-release /etc/revdep-rebuild
/etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/language.dat.d
/etc/texmf/language.def.d /etc/texmf/updmap.d /etc/texmf/web2c"
CXXFLAGS="-march=native -mno-tbm -mno-bmi -mno-avx -mno-aes -mno-sha
-mno-fma -mno-xop -mno-lwp -mno-abm -mno-3dnow -mno-sse3 -O2 -pipe"
DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles"
ENV_UNSET="DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DISPLAY PERL5LIB PERL5OPT PERLPREFIX
PERL_CORE PERL_MB_OPT PERL_MM_OPT XAUTHORITY XDG_CACHE_HOME
XDG_CONFIG_HOME XDG_DATA_HOME XDG_RUNTIME_DIR"
FCFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
FEATURES="assume-digests binpkg-logs config-protect-if-modified
distlocks ebuild-locks fixlafiles merge-sync multilib-strict news
parallel-fetch preserve-libs protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict
unknown-features-warn unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch userpriv
usersandbox usersync xattr"
FFLAGS="-O2 -pipe"
GENTOO_MIRRORS="ftp://mirrors.tera-byte.com/pub/gentoo
http://gentoo.mirrors.tera-byte.com/ rsync://mirrors.tera-byte.com/gentoo"
LANG="en_US.utf8"
LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed"
MAKEOPTS="-j9"
PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages"
PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/"
PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times
--omit-dir-times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats
--human-readable --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local
--exclude=/packages --exclude=/.git"
PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp

Re: [gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin with icu confusion

[the]

On 24/04/16 10:41, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Bug 580756. Just sync and update again...
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=580756
> 


Thanks much. Somehow the regular bugzilla search
didn't find this bug.

[gentoo-user] libreoffice-bin with icu confusion

[the]

Hello.

Recently I've installed app-office/libreoffice-bin-5.1.2.2
which depends on dev-libs/icu-57.1

equery g app-office/libreoffice-bin-5.1.2.2 | grep icu
 [  1]  dev-libs/icu-57.1

However when I tried to run libreoffice, the dynamic linker
couldn't find two libraries: libicui18n.so.55 and
libicuuc.so.55.

Of course, it was solved by making a couple
of symlinks, but I think there could be a minor problem here.

Here's how it looks like now

ldd /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/soffice.bin  | grep icu
libicuuc.so.55 => /usr/lib64/libicuuc.so.55 (0x7fb5fa402000)
libicui18n.so.55 => /usr/lib64/libicui18n.so.55 (0x7fb5f8ff2000)
libharfbuzz-icu.so.0 => /usr/lib64/libharfbuzz-icu.so.0
(0x7fb5f7d8a000)
libicudata.so.57 => /usr/lib64/libicudata.so.57 (0x7fb5f0dba000)

things are happening on amd64.

Re: [gentoo-user] pdf viewer

[the]

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On 03/01/15 08:15, lee wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> what do you as PDF viewer?
> 
> Most of the time, I was using xpdf, and that doesn't seem to be 
> available in Gentoo.  I compiled it from source and found out that 
> it cannot display PDFs so well and gives error messages about not 
> being able to find fonts.  Pdfpc isn't a good alternative.

I was using evince, now moved to zathura. Both are as slow as hell
though, so I'm open for faster alternatives.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: firefox.bin vs firefox

[the]

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On 18/12/14 06:10, Frank Steinmetzger wrote:
> I once -- just for fun -- compiled Firefox on an Atom N450. This
> has no effect on the loading time of 20 seconds. ^^

And how long did it take?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

[the]

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On 29/11/14 13:11, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> So, I just found out that some Debian Developers decided to fork 
> Debian, because they can no longer stand this abomination called 
> 'systemd':
> 
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html
>
> 
Thanks for spreading the news.
I hope this project will develop and prosper!

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Re: [gentoo-user] headphone does not work in windows After logging to linux

[the]

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On 21/11/14 16:07, Matti Nykyri wrote:
> Do you reboot in the between or are you running somekind of
> virtual machine? Usb headphones or what? What sound driver? I've
> had problems with NIC between reboots. They were cleared by
> removing power cord for multiple minutes while rebooting. I got rid
> of the problem when i updated NIC's driver (bug in driver).

Hmm, I have a similar problem with my SiS 190 ethernet adapter.
It works fine under gentoo, but after reboot from windows
it stops working. Pulling the plug and waiting helps.
Very peculiar imo.



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Re: [gentoo-user] wireless interface problem in new installation

[the]

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On 17/11/14 14:42, behrouz khosravi wrote:
> Hi.
> 
> I was going to install gentoo on my laptop and since I needed an
> easy WPA2 wireless connection I used "system rescue cd" for
> installation. After finishing the installation when I booted gentoo
> the "ifconfig -a" didnt show my wireless interface. I thought that
> I have not included the driver, so I used the genkernel to compile
> another kernel but the problem is not gone.
> 
> have I missed something?
> 
> thanks

Hm, does wireless device require firmware? Have you installed firmware
properly?


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: old farts slum_code enforcement

[the]

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On 09/15/14 15:02, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> what is wrong with fortran?

I don't know. Perhaps you can tell us.

OT(childhood psychological trauma){
I find it unreadable and had unpleasant experience
with fortran code. I actually had to **pick a compiler**
to the existing code in order to compile and get expected
results. After a few painful loops of "get a new compiler" -
"compile" - "fail" I was told that ifort should handle the
situation. I downloaded ifort (will RMS ever forgive me?)
and found out that my processor didn't support all the
instructions required for running ifort (SSE2). Of course
it (code failing to compile) is programmer's fault.
It was a part of my job so I couldn't just lay it off and
forget about it.
};

>> Unfortunately. First of all technically they are programers. It
>> looks like this kind of programmers have a hard time learning
>> another programming language. Second, major generation/simulation
>> packages are moving on to c++.
> 
> and that is better why?

What is better?
Suddenly, modelling in physics isn't computational mathematics
and it's easier to think in object rather than procedures.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: old farts slum_code enforcement

[the]

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On 09/15/14 02:21, James wrote:
> Howz your Fortan 90? I did not even know there was such an ugly
> beast [4]. I thought Fortran was outlawed decades ago.

Outlawed. I love how this word is used in the same sentence
with "fortran".

> I guess nothing ever dies. Physicists have to have a language to
> themselves.

Unfortunately. First of all technically they are programers.
It looks like this kind of programmers have a hard time
learning another programming language.
Second, major generation/simulation packages are
moving on to c++.

http://home.thep.lu.se/~torbjorn/Pythia.html
http://www.geant4.org/geant4/

> Anyway, my_python is comming along.. (pist, don't tell anyone,
> but I almost, (almost) like python).

What about Perl?

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Re: [gentoo-user] why you've chosen your desktop environment? (no war !)

[the]

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I've been enjoying LXDE for a long time now. I have installed it along
with XFCE (my machines are low on resources*). I can't explain why, but
I like LXDE better than XFCE. I've also tried KDE - looks great but as
I mentioned I have limited computing power, used GNOME 2 a bit.
Recently I have installed and tested i3 wm and liked it but imho
tiling wms are best when used on 'big' displays. I don't use it because
none of my displays is wider than 1024 px.

* I doubt that I'd settle for a more demanding DE even if I had
a lot of resources because, you know, possession of great amount
of ram for example doesn't justify memory wastage.
The situation gets worse when you need to compile great amounts of
c++ code.

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

[the]

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> In such cases I tend to suggest installing ufed.

equery from gentoolkit works for me

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Re: [gentoo-user] USE flags handling

[the]

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On 07/29/14 21:04, behrouz khosravi wrote:
| Hello everyone. I just concurred my fear and jumped to installing
| gentoo! So far so good! Before installing on my laptop and
| desktop, I am trying on virtual box and the system is running
| Fluxbox very good.(default profile) Now I am thinking about
| managing USE flags. What if I  disable everything in the make.conf
| ( I mean USE="-*" ) and gradually add the needed flags to
| package.use? I am not trying to have severe control, I just want to
| expand my knowledge! thanks.

Smokey: Start emacs, Dude, I'm marking it -* .

Walter Sobchak: [pulls out a gun] Smokey, my friend, you are entering
a world of pain.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can emerge play a sound on either a successful/unsuccessful build?

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On 07/14/14 14:52, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> Hi all, I have a laptop churning away in the loungeroom doing an
> "emerge -NuD world" whilst I'm in my office, amongst other things
> composing this email. If my world update fails, I won't know until
> I look at the screen in the other room. Is there a way to get
> emerge to play a song depending upon the status of the emerge
> build?

If I understand you correctly this can be done with bash like:
emerge <...> || play alert.mp3

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Re: [gentoo-user] chown - not permited

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On 06/10/14 22:37, Joseph wrote:
> I mount USB stick form camera and I can not change ownership (I'm
> login as root)
> 
> drwxr-xr-x 9 root root 32768 Nov 18  2013 DCIM -rwxr-xr-x 1 root
> root 4 Nov 21  2013 _disk_id.pod drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 32768
> Aug 14  2013 LOST.DIR
> 
> I can read and write another USB stick but others I can not.  How
> to control it?
> 
What filesystem does it contain and what mount options are you using?
Depending on the filesystem it can be possible to mount with
user/group permissions.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox and Adobe's DRM plugin

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On 05/15/14 23:31, Mick wrote:
> Does anyone know if Gentoo will provide a USE flag to enable this
> if desired?
> 
> https://hacks.mozilla.org/2014/05/reconciling-mozillas-mission-and-w3c-eme/
>
> 
Yes, I received a very disturbing letter from FSF today.
It's never late to switch to another broswer (I thought to myself
pretending midori merge).
I guess it must be configurable in the browser.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Having Trouble with Wireless Interface

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On 05/12/14 23:31, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
> Hi all. I got Espeakup to finally function, but I have a problem
> now with my Realtech 8188 WiFi adapter, Rev01, according to
> ifconfig. I know it shows up as wlp7s0 on an ifconfig, normally.
> But for what ever reason, it isn't showing up. I have, in my
> /etc/conf.d/net the line: wlp7s0="DHCP". When I run ifconfig wlp7s0
> up, I get an error about how the device is not able to be found.
> The driver shows up as a module in the kernel.
Could it be a firmware problem? dmesg would help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with hi-res display and nouveau driver on *one* system

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On 05/11/14 20:43, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
> I have two systems with nvidia cards.  Let call them OK and NG. OK
> is a laptop and NG is a desktop, but I think that is irrelevant.
> 
> For both I am using the nouveau driver
[...]
This could be the problem

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Re: [gentoo-user] Show ebuild date/time in emerge --pretend output

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On 04/11/14 17:30, Tanstaafl wrote:
> What would be really helpful would be if the emerge --pretend
> output could show the date (and time?) that the new ebuild was made
> available...

I thought of something like this, but in emerge --search summary.
Could be nice to have such info.
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Re: [gentoo-user] sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45 patch fails

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On 04/09/14 14:50, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> 
> This is a bug. Please file one at bugs.gentoo.org
> <http://bugs.gentoo.org>.
> 
> The patch which is missing got removed with the latest version bump
> of glpk but it is still referred to from the ebuild of version
> 4.45.
Thanks for the quick reply! filed:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=507234

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[gentoo-user] sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45 patch fails

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Hello. When I try to merge sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45:

[ebuild   R] sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45  USE="-doc -examples -gmp
- -mysql -odbc -static-libs" 0 kB

I get the following error:

* Cannot find $EPATCH_SOURCE!  Value for $EPATCH_SOURCE is:
 *
 *   /usr/portage/sci-mathematics/glpk/files/glpk-4.52.1-mariadb-5.5.patch
 *   ( glpk-4.52.1-mariadb-5.5.patch )

Other stuff is attached.
I have synced just before retrying. Note that it's installed but fails
to rebuild. I guess something is wrong with the ebuild or my build
system (patching software). I though I ought to ask for help here before
assuming it's a gentoo bug. Please help me find Wally!

Have a nice day.
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 * Package:sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45
 * Repository: gentoo
 * Maintainer: robb...@gentoo.org sci-mathemat...@gentoo.org
 * USE:abi_x86_32 elibc_glibc kernel_linux userland_GNU x86
 * FEATURES:   preserve-libs sandbox userpriv usersandbox
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking glpk-4.45.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45/work
>>> Source unpacked in /var/tmp/portage/sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45/work
>>> Preparing source in /var/tmp/portage/sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45/work/glpk-4.45 ...

 * Cannot find $EPATCH_SOURCE!  Value for $EPATCH_SOURCE is:
 * 
 *   /usr/portage/sci-mathematics/glpk/files/glpk-4.52.1-mariadb-5.5.patch
 *   ( glpk-4.52.1-mariadb-5.5.patch )

 * ERROR: sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45::gentoo failed (prepare phase):
 *   Cannot find $EPATCH_SOURCE!
 * 
 * Call stack:
 * ebuild.sh, line   93:  Called src_prepare
 *   environment, line :  Called epatch '/usr/portage/sci-mathematics/glpk/files/glpk-4.52.1-mariadb-5.5.patch'
 *   environment, line  669:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   die "Cannot find \$EPATCH_SOURCE!";
 * 
 * If you need support, post the output of `emerge --info '=sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45::gentoo'`,
 * the complete build log and the output of `emerge -pqv '=sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45::gentoo'`.
 * The complete build log is located at '/var/tmp/portage/sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45/temp/build.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at '/var/tmp/portage/sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45/temp/environment'.
 * Working directory: '/var/tmp/portage/sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45/work/glpk-4.45'
 * S: '/var/tmp/portage/sci-mathematics/glpk-4.45/work/glpk-4.45'


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Description: application/info

Re: [gentoo-user] MD5SUM

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>> $ md5sum livedvd-amd64-multilib-20121221.iso 
>> e86da868be423283ec167725390faefc 
>> livedvd-amd64-multilib-20121221.iso
>> 
>> Yes, the published MD5 hash is still valid.
> 
> Since this thread seems to have taken on a life of its own, and 
> because no-one else has done so, I just wanted to check in and say 
> this is the md5sum I'm getting, too.
> 
> I was careful to use the switch.ch URL that Guido gave in his
> first message.

$ wget
http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/gentoo//releases/amd64/20121221/livedvd-amd64-multilib-20121221.iso
- --2014-03-15 15:18:56--
http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/gentoo//releases/amd64/20121221/livedvd-amd64-multilib-20121221.iso
Resolving mirror.switch.ch... 130.59.10.36, 2001:620:0:8::20
Connecting to mirror.switch.ch|130.59.10.36|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 4198498304 (3.9G) [application/x-iso9660-image]
Saving to: ?livedvd-amd64-multilib-20121221.iso?

$ md5sum livedvd-amd64-multilib-20121221.iso
e86da868be423283ec167725390faefc  livedvd-amd64-multilib-20121221.iso

$ openssl md5 livedvd-amd64-multilib-20121221.iso
MD5(livedvd-amd64-multilib-20121221.iso)= e86da868be423283ec167725390faefc


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re:MD5SUM

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On 03/14/14 23:29, Guido Budack wrote:
> Good proposition but why? It works...
> 
> Never change a running system :-/
> 
Sorry failed to parse that. btw i'm on the list.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re:MD5SUM

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On 03/14/14 18:01, Guido Budack wrote:
>> dev/null... grmpf... :-/
> 
> No, the filesize is and was the same... I'm really astonished... 
> Listen, to keep it brief... I guess there are more urgend topics to
> discuss.  I'll repeat the whole procedure when I'm back in Europe
> at the end of the month and report to the community It doesn't
> make much sense to hold an endless discussion now. I just can say
> that the filesize is the same and as reported already before and
> that my hashing wasn't successful in contrast to on other files. I
> was just curious if probably someone has similar problems AND I saw
> it as some sort of a duty to report it to the community. However,
> if someone feels annoyed or bothered or however you call it in
> english... wasn't intentionally...

How about using another md5sum executable/building it/using openssl?

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Re: [gentoo-user] slim/X11 : waiting for X server to begin accepting connections.

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On 03/10/14 22:05, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> it seems the powerfail this moring while I was updateing my Linux
> box has killed / screwed up something.
> 
> The effect: Slim login manager starts and presents the login
> screen. It is possible to login but openbox seems not to start - I
> get the typical cross-cursor in the middle of the screen (but the
> grey background is replaced by plain black) The last entry in the
> slim.log is:
> 
> slim: waiting for X server to begin accepting connections. slim:
> open_session: Unable to open session: Unable to get information 
> about the calling process
> 
> I resumed the interrupted update process, I did: "emerge
> xf86-input-evdev xf86-input-keyboard xf86-input-mouse 
> nvidia-drivers" I recompiled the X-server.
You might want to try emerge -pv @x11-module-rebuild instead.
Gives 18 packages in my case.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing gentoo - First emerge

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On 03/07/14 21:21, Facundo Curti wrote:
> Hi list! It is the second time i'm going to install gentoo, im not
> an expert but I know basics :P
> 
> I'm ok until 6.c -> (optional) Use systemd Then I follow the wiki
> [1].
> 
> But the real problem is that, when I want to install systemd or vim
> (any of these), "emerge" want to install 119 dependencies, and this
> give me dependencies errors. I can solve the dependencies, but
> another apareace, I solve that, and another... Until one I cant
> solve anymore... :/
> 
> Any way, I can't understand why portage want to install 119 packets
> just for vim!
> 
> Here is the portage installing vim: http://bpaste.net/show/186190/ 
> And  here installing systemd: http://bpaste.net/show/186195/
> 
> emerge Is trying to install x. ¿why? This package for example, I
> think is unnecesary for my system... 
> x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati-7.2.0 USE="-glamor -udev" 806 kB
> 
> Here my lspci: http://bpaste.net/show/186196/
> 
> And my make.conf: http://bpaste.net/show/186197
probably because you have X in uses.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

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On 02/19/14 14:37, Gevisz wrote:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 22:53:12 +0400
> the  wrote:
> 
> On 02/18/14 17:56, Gevisz wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 23:30:42 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Gevisz 
>>>>> wrote: [ snip ]
>>>>>> How can you be sure if something is "large enough" if, as you
>>>>>> say below, you do not care about probabilities?
>>>>>
>>>>> By writing correct code?
>>>>
>>>> No, by arguing that fixing bugs in a 200K line program is as easy
>>>> as fixing a bug in 20 10K line programs. It is just not true, just
>>>> the opposite.
>>>>
>>>>>>>> SysVinit code size is about 10 000 lines of code, OpenRC
>>>>>>>> contains about 13 000 lines, systemd — about 200 000
>>>>>>>> lines.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If you take into account the thousands of shell code that
>>>>>>> SysV and OpenRC need to fill the functionality of systemd,
>>>>>>> they use even more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, again, systemd have a lot of little binaries, many of
>>>>>>> them optional. The LOC of PID 1 is actually closer to SysV
>>>>>>> (although still bigger).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Even assuming systemd code is as mature as sysvinit or
>>>>>>>> openrc (though I doubt this) you can calculate
>>>>>>>> probabilities of segfaults yourself easily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't care about probabilities;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you do not care (= do not now anything) about probabilities 
>>>>>> (and mathematics, in general), you just unable to understand 
>>>>>> that debugging a program with 200K lines of code take
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 20!/(1!)^20
>>>>>>
>>>>>> more time than debugging of 20 different programs with 10K
>>>>>> lines of code. You can try to calculate that number yourself
>>>>>> but I quite sure that if the latter can take, say, 20 days, the
>>>>>> former can take millions of years.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is all the probability! Or, to be more precise,
>>>>>> combinatorics.
>>>>>
>>>>> My PhD thesis (which I will defend in a few weeks) is in
>>>>> computer science, specifically computational geometry and
>>>>> combinatorics.
>>>>
>>>> It is even more shameful for you to not understand such a simple
>>>> facts from elementary probability theory (which is mostly based on 
>>>> combinatorics).
> TBH I don't understand your estimate. Where did permutations come
> from? are you comparing all the different combinations of lines of
> code?
> 
>> I just wanted to convey that, if an involved program is n times longer,
>> than another one, it does not, in general, true that it will take only
>> n times more time to find a bug. The dependence here would be nonlinear
>> and with much more steep growth than the linear one, just because all
>> the possible ways to go wrong grows proportional to permutations, not
>> necessary of lines but at least of some other units whose number is
>> roughly proportional to the number of lines. 
As I see it:
Suppose we can have b different paths in each unit of code
(for 1 unit having 1 input we would get b possible outputs).
Suppose we have A different states after executing N units, but we
have 1 more unit to execute at the end. Executing the final
unit A times with different initial states we get b outcomes for
each of the A initial states. Now we have A*b possible final states,
so we get b^(n+1) states after executing N+1 units.
If there are s mistakes we can make in each unit we will get 2^s paths
in each unit. Finally 2^(s*N)I may be glitching though.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

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On 02/18/14 17:56, Gevisz wrote:
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2014 23:30:42 -0600 Canek Peláez Valdés
>  wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Gevisz 
>> wrote: [ snip ]
>>> How can you be sure if something is "large enough" if, as you
>>> say below, you do not care about probabilities?
>> 
>> By writing correct code?
> 
> No, by arguing that fixing bugs in a 200K line program is as easy
> as fixing a bug in 20 10K line programs. It is just not true, just
> the opposite.
> 
>>>>> SysVinit code size is about 10 000 lines of code, OpenRC
>>>>> contains about 13 000 lines, systemd — about 200 000
>>>>> lines.
>>>> 
>>>> If you take into account the thousands of shell code that
>>>> SysV and OpenRC need to fill the functionality of systemd,
>>>> they use even more.
>>>> 
>>>> Also, again, systemd have a lot of little binaries, many of
>>>> them optional. The LOC of PID 1 is actually closer to SysV
>>>> (although still bigger).
>>>> 
>>>>> Even assuming systemd code is as mature as sysvinit or
>>>>> openrc (though I doubt this) you can calculate
>>>>> probabilities of segfaults yourself easily.
>>>> 
>>>> I don't care about probabilities;
>>> 
>>> If you do not care (= do not now anything) about probabilities 
>>> (and mathematics, in general), you just unable to understand 
>>> that debugging a program with 200K lines of code take
>>> 
>>> 20!/(1!)^20
>>> 
>>> more time than debugging of 20 different programs with 10K
>>> lines of code. You can try to calculate that number yourself
>>> but I quite sure that if the latter can take, say, 20 days, the
>>> former can take millions of years.
>>> 
>>> It is all the probability! Or, to be more precise,
>>> combinatorics.
>> 
>> My PhD thesis (which I will defend in a few weeks) is in
>> computer science, specifically computational geometry and
>> combinatorics.
> 
> It is even more shameful for you to not understand such a simple
> facts from elementary probability theory (which is mostly based on 
> combinatorics).
TBH I don't understand your estimate. Where did permutations come
from? are you comparing all the different combinations of lines of code?

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Re: [gentoo-user] NAT problem

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On 01/11/14 12:49, the wrote:
> On 01/11/14 03:24, Mick wrote:
>> On Friday 10 Jan 2014 19:42:37 Kerin Millar wrote:
>>> the wrote:
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>>>> 
>>>> Hello. This is the the first time I'm dealing with wifi and
>>>> the second time with NAT. I have a server (access point) with
>>>> a ppp0 interface (internet), eth0, wlan0, tun0 and sit0. A
>>>> dhcp server is listening on wlan0 and provides local ip
>>>> addresses, dns (= my isp dns) and router (= server wlan0 ip
>>>> address). Nat is configured on the server like this: #
>>>> Generated by iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26
>>>> 2014 *raw
>>>> 
>>>> :PREROUTING ACCEPT [1000941:974106726] :OUTPUT ACCEPT 
>>>> [775261:165606146]
>>>> 
>>>> COMMIT # Completed on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 # Generated
>>>> by iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 *nat
>>>> 
>>>> :PREROUTING ACCEPT [888:45008] :INPUT ACCEPT [63:9590]
>>>> :OUTPUT ACCEPT [442:27137] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [36:1728]
>>>> 
>>>> - -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE COMMIT # Completed on 
>>>> Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 # Generated by iptables-save
>>>> v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 *mangle
>>>> 
>>>> :PREROUTING ACCEPT [1000941:974106726] :INPUT ACCEPT 
>>>> [951658:947497602] :FORWARD ACCEPT [39262:26279024] :OUTPUT 
>>>> ACCEPT [775261:165606146] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT 
>>>> [814621:191890787]
>>>> 
>>>> COMMIT # Completed on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 # Generated
>>>> by iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 *filter
>>>> 
>>>> :INPUT ACCEPT [371:35432] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT
>>>> ACCEPT [33994:3725352]
>>>> 
>>>> - -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT -
>>>> -A FORWARD -i wlan0 -o ppp0 -j ACCEPT - -A FORWARD -i ppp0
>>>> -o wlan0 -j ACCEPT - -A FORWARD -i eth0 -j DROP - -A FORWARD
>>>> -i tun0 -j DROP COMMIT # Completed on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26
>>>> 2014 I have a client that connects to my wifi, obtains an
>>>> address via dhcp and ... can't acces almost all of internet
>>>> sites. I was able to ping any web service I could think of,
>>>> but I was able to use only google/youtube. I can do text/
>>>> image serches on google and can open youtube(but videos
>>>> aren't loading). On other services wget says connection
>>>> established, but it can't retrieve anything. if I ssh to an
>>>> external server (not my nat server) I can ls, but if I try to
>>>> ls - -alh I receive only a half of the files list and the
>>>> terminal hangs after that. If I do $python -m http.server on
>>>> my server I can do file transfers and open html pages on my
>>>> client. I have tried this 
>>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Software_Access_Point#WLAN_is_very_s
>>>>
>>>>
>
>>>> 
low
>>>> 
>>>> Also I have tried to insert LOG target in FORWARD of filter.
>>>> It showed that I send way more pakets(>10) to a http server
>>>> than I receive(~2-4). The client is fine and behaves normally
>>>> with wifi, used it many times. Thanks for your time.
>>> 
>>> It's probable that you need to make use of MSS clamping. Try
>>> the following rule:
>>> 
>>> iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST
>>> SYN -j TCPMSS --clamp-mss-to-pmtu
>>> 
>>> --Kerin
> 
>> This explains it:
> 
>> http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.cookbook.mtu-mss.html
> 
>> Is there a router somewhere (your ISP?) that does not play nice 
>> with PMTU Discovery?  What happens if you set your ifaces to
>> have an mtu or 1492 (needed to accomodate your PPPoE headers) or
>> even lower like 1440, or 1380?
> 
> Thanks you Kerin, Mick! It works like a charm. Indeed:
> 
> ppp0: flags=4305  mtu 1492
> 
> So do I understand correctly that field of size 1500 - 1492 is 
> reserved for pppoe stuff? Will it also work if I set a smaller mtu
> in my wlan like 1400 (assuming that the smallest mtu on the path is
> not less than 1400)?

Also
"Besides MTU, there is yet another way to set the maximum packet size,
the so called Maximum Segment Size. This is a field in the TCP Options
part of a SYN packet."

Does this mean that even with this iptables rule I'll have problems
with udp packets?
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Re: [gentoo-user] NAT problem

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On 01/11/14 03:24, Mick wrote:
> On Friday 10 Jan 2014 19:42:37 Kerin Millar wrote:
>> the wrote:
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>>> 
>>> Hello. This is the the first time I'm dealing with wifi and the
>>> second time with NAT. I have a server (access point) with a
>>> ppp0 interface (internet), eth0, wlan0, tun0 and sit0. A dhcp
>>> server is listening on wlan0 and provides local ip addresses,
>>> dns (= my isp dns) and router (= server wlan0 ip address). Nat
>>> is configured on the server like this: # Generated by
>>> iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 *raw
>>> 
>>> :PREROUTING ACCEPT [1000941:974106726] :OUTPUT ACCEPT
>>> [775261:165606146]
>>> 
>>> COMMIT # Completed on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 # Generated by
>>> iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 *nat
>>> 
>>> :PREROUTING ACCEPT [888:45008] :INPUT ACCEPT [63:9590] :OUTPUT
>>> ACCEPT [442:27137] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [36:1728]
>>> 
>>> - -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE COMMIT # Completed on
>>> Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 # Generated by iptables-save v1.4.20
>>> on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 *mangle
>>> 
>>> :PREROUTING ACCEPT [1000941:974106726] :INPUT ACCEPT
>>> [951658:947497602] :FORWARD ACCEPT [39262:26279024] :OUTPUT
>>> ACCEPT [775261:165606146] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT
>>> [814621:191890787]
>>> 
>>> COMMIT # Completed on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 # Generated by
>>> iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 *filter
>>> 
>>> :INPUT ACCEPT [371:35432] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT
>>> [33994:3725352]
>>> 
>>> - -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT - -A
>>> FORWARD -i wlan0 -o ppp0 -j ACCEPT - -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o
>>> wlan0 -j ACCEPT - -A FORWARD -i eth0 -j DROP - -A FORWARD -i
>>> tun0 -j DROP COMMIT # Completed on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 I
>>> have a client that connects to my wifi, obtains an address via
>>> dhcp and ... can't acces almost all of internet sites. I was
>>> able to ping any web service I could think of, but I was able
>>> to use only google/youtube. I can do text/ image serches on
>>> google and can open youtube(but videos aren't loading). On
>>> other services wget says connection established, but it can't
>>> retrieve anything. if I ssh to an external server (not my nat
>>> server) I can ls, but if I try to ls - -alh I receive only a
>>> half of the files list and the terminal hangs after that. If I
>>> do $python -m http.server on my server I can do file transfers 
>>> and open html pages on my client. I have tried this 
>>> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Software_Access_Point#WLAN_is_very_s
>>>
>>> 
low
>>> 
>>> Also I have tried to insert LOG target in FORWARD of filter. It
>>> showed that I send way more pakets(>10) to a http server than
>>> I receive(~2-4). The client is fine and behaves normally with
>>> wifi, used it many times. Thanks for your time.
>> 
>> It's probable that you need to make use of MSS clamping. Try the 
>> following rule:
>> 
>> iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN
>> -j TCPMSS --clamp-mss-to-pmtu
>> 
>> --Kerin
> 
> This explains it:
> 
> http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.cookbook.mtu-mss.html
> 
> Is there a router somewhere (your ISP?) that does not play nice
> with PMTU Discovery?  What happens if you set your ifaces to have
> an mtu or 1492 (needed to accomodate your PPPoE headers) or even
> lower like 1440, or 1380?

Thanks you Kerin, Mick! It works like a charm. Indeed:

ppp0: flags=4305  mtu 1492

So do I understand correctly that field of size 1500 - 1492 is
reserved for pppoe stuff?
Will it also work if I set a smaller mtu in my wlan like
1400 (assuming that the smallest mtu on the path is not less than 1400)?
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Re: [gentoo-user] NAT problem

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On 01/10/14 21:55, the wrote:
> Hello. This is the the first time I'm dealing with wifi and the
> second time with NAT. I have a server (access point) with a ppp0
> interface (internet), eth0, wlan0, tun0 and sit0. A dhcp server is
> listening on wlan0 and provides local ip addresses, dns (= my isp
> dns)  and router (= server wlan0 ip address). Nat is configured on
> the server like this: # Generated by iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri
> Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 *raw :PREROUTING ACCEPT [1000941:974106726] 
> :OUTPUT ACCEPT [775261:165606146] COMMIT # Completed on Fri Jan 10
> 21:34:26 2014 # Generated by iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10
> 21:34:26 2014 *nat :PREROUTING ACCEPT [888:45008] :INPUT ACCEPT
> [63:9590] :OUTPUT ACCEPT [442:27137] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [36:1728] 
> -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE COMMIT # Completed on Fri Jan
> 10 21:34:26 2014 # Generated by iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10
> 21:34:26 2014 *mangle :PREROUTING ACCEPT [1000941:974106726] :INPUT
> ACCEPT [951658:947497602] :FORWARD ACCEPT [39262:26279024] :OUTPUT
> ACCEPT [775261:165606146] :POSTROUTING ACCEPT [814621:191890787] 
> COMMIT # Completed on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 # Generated by
> iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 *filter :INPUT
> ACCEPT [371:35432] :FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0] :OUTPUT ACCEPT
> [33994:3725352] -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j
> ACCEPT -A FORWARD -i wlan0 -o ppp0 -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o
> wlan0 -j ACCEPT -A FORWARD -i eth0 -j DROP -A FORWARD -i tun0 -j
> DROP COMMIT # Completed on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014 I have a client
> that connects to my wifi, obtains an address via dhcp and ... can't
> acces almost all of internet sites. I was able to ping any web
> service I could think of, but I was able to use only
> google/youtube. I can do text/ image serches on google and can open
> youtube(but videos aren't loading). On other services wget says
> connection established, but it can't retrieve anything. if I ssh to
> an external server (not my nat server) I can ls, but if I try to
> ls -alh I receive only a half of the files list and the terminal
> hangs after that. If I do $python -m http.server on my server I can
> do file transfers and open html pages on my client. I have tried
> this 
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Software_Access_Point#WLAN_is_very_slow
>
> 
Also I have tried to insert LOG target in FORWARD of filter.
> It showed that I send way more pakets(>10) to a http server than I 
> receive(~2-4). The client is fine and behaves normally with wifi,
> used it many times. Thanks for your time.
BTW I don't think that It's a hardware issue but will provide all
hw/kernel info available to me if needed.

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[gentoo-user] NAT problem

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Hello. This is the the first time I'm dealing with wifi and the second
time with NAT.
I have a server (access point) with a ppp0 interface (internet), eth0,
wlan0, tun0 and sit0. A dhcp server is listening on wlan0 and provides
local ip addresses, dns (= my isp dns)  and router (= server wlan0 ip
address). Nat is configured on the server like this:
# Generated by iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014
*raw
:PREROUTING ACCEPT [1000941:974106726]
:OUTPUT ACCEPT [775261:165606146]
COMMIT
# Completed on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014
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*nat
:PREROUTING ACCEPT [888:45008]
:INPUT ACCEPT [63:9590]
:OUTPUT ACCEPT [442:27137]
:POSTROUTING ACCEPT [36:1728]
- -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
COMMIT
# Completed on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014
# Generated by iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014
*mangle
:PREROUTING ACCEPT [1000941:974106726]
:INPUT ACCEPT [951658:947497602]
:FORWARD ACCEPT [39262:26279024]
:OUTPUT ACCEPT [775261:165606146]
:POSTROUTING ACCEPT [814621:191890787]
COMMIT
# Completed on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014
# Generated by iptables-save v1.4.20 on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014
*filter
:INPUT ACCEPT [371:35432]
:FORWARD ACCEPT [0:0]
:OUTPUT ACCEPT [33994:3725352]
- -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
- -A FORWARD -i wlan0 -o ppp0 -j ACCEPT
- -A FORWARD -i ppp0 -o wlan0 -j ACCEPT
- -A FORWARD -i eth0 -j DROP
- -A FORWARD -i tun0 -j DROP
COMMIT
# Completed on Fri Jan 10 21:34:26 2014
I have a client that connects to my wifi, obtains an address via dhcp
and ... can't acces almost all of internet sites.
I was able to ping any web service I could think of, but I was able to
use only google/youtube. I can do text/ image serches on google and
can open youtube(but videos aren't loading). On other services wget
says connection established, but it can't retrieve anything. if I ssh
to an external server (not my nat server) I can ls, but if I try to ls
- -alh I receive only a half of the files list and the terminal hangs
after that.
If I do $python -m http.server on my server I can do file transfers
and open html pages on my client. I have tried this
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Software_Access_Point#WLAN_is_very_slow
Also I have tried to insert LOG target in FORWARD of filter.
It showed that I send way more pakets(>10) to a http server than I
receive(~2-4).
The client is fine and behaves normally with wifi, used it many times.
Thanks for your time.
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Re: [gentoo-user] [gentoo user] Do I really need a sshd?

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On 01/04/14 14:24, Gevisz wrote:
> 
> After today's update of the world, emerge printed the following
> message:
> 
> * Messages for package net-misc/openssh-6.4_p1-r1: *
> dev-libs/openssl was built with 'bindist' - disabling ecdsa
> support * Remember to merge your config files in /etc/ssh/ and
> then * reload sshd: '/etc/init.d/sshd reload'.
> 
> That was quite a surprise for me, as I never installed (open)ssh 
> and it is not in my world.
> 
> After the following query:
> 
> # equery depends --indirect openssh
> 
> I have got the following:
> 
> * These packages depend on openssh: gnome-base/gvfs-1.16.4
> (net-misc/openssh) app-cdr/brasero-3.8.0 (gnome-base/gvfs) 
> media-gfx/gthumb-3.2.4 (cdr ? >=app-cdr/brasero-3.2) 
> app-editors/gedit-3.8.3 (gnome-base/gvfs) gnome-base/nautilus-3.8.2
> (>=gnome-base/gvfs-1.14[gtk]) app-cdr/brasero-3.8.0 (nautilus ?
> >=gnome-base/nautilus-2.91.90) app-text/evince-3.8.3 (nautilus ?
>> =gnome-base/nautilus-2.91.4[introspection?])
> gnome-extra/sushi-3.8.1 (>=app-text/evince-3.0[introspection]) 
> gnome-base/nautilus-3.8.2 (previewer ? >=gnome-extra/sushi-0.1.9) 
> gnome-extra/sushi-3.8.1 (>=gnome-base/nautilus-3.1.90) 
> media-gfx/gimp-2.8.6 (gnome ? gnome-base/gvfs) 
> app-doc/gimp-help-2.6.1 (>=media-gfx/gimp-2.4)
> media-gfx/dcraw-9.10 (gimp ? media-gfx/gimp) media-gfx/gthumb-3.2.4
> (!raw ? media-gfx/dcraw) xfce-base/thunar-1.6.2 (dbus ?
>> =gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1) (udev ? 
>> =gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1[udisks,udev]) (udev ? 
>> =gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1[gdu,udev]) (xfce_plugins_trash ? 
>> =gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1) xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.10.2 (thunar ? 
>> =xfce-base/thunar-1.6[dbus]) xfce-base/xfce4-meta-4.10
> (>=xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.10) virtual/ssh-0 (minimal ? 
> net-misc/openssh) (!minimal ? net-misc/openssh)
> 
> Inspecting my /etc/conf.d and /etc/init.d directories, I have found
> sshd files in both of them.
> 
> So, my main question is as follows:
> 
> Do I really need (open)sshd and, if no, how can I properly disable 
> (open)sshd in my Gentoo box?
> 
> I guess that one of the ways to disable (open)sshd is to make 
> /etc/init.d/sshd file unexacutable, but is it a clean way to do
> so?

Why not reconfigure your init system. For example in the case of openrc:
rc-update delete sshd

> May be, it is relevant to this question that, in the future, I am
> going to employ the distributed compiling feature for this and
> another Gentoo box on the same local network.
> 
> The additional my question is as follows:
> 
> What I am supposed to do in response to the "merge your config
> files in /etc/ssh/" message above?

Run dispatch-conf i guess.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Chmod Failed

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On 12/25/13 08:58, Silvio Siefke wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 
> i try to install dbus on a chroot gentoo which should be a build 
> server. The Compile ends with:
> 
> make[3]: Entering directory 
> `/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/dbus-1.6.12/work/dbus-1.6.12-build/bus'
>  if test `id -u` -eq 0; then \ chown root:messagebus 
> /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/dbus-1.6.12/image//usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper;
>
> 
\ chmod 4750
> /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/dbus-1.6.12/image//usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper;
>
> 
\ else \ echo "Not installing
> /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/dbus-1.6.12/image//usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper
>
> 
binary setuid!"; \ echo "You'll need to manually set permissions to
> root:messagebus and permissions 4750"; \ fi /bin/sh 
> /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/dbus-1.6.12/work/dbus-1.6.12/install-sh 
> -d 
> /var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/dbus-1.6.12/image//usr/share/dbus-1/services
>
>
> 
chmod: changing permissions of
‘/var/tmp/portage/sys-apps/dbus-1.6.12/image//usr/libexec/dbus-daemon-launch-helper’:
Permission denied
> 
> But when i set manuell the Persmissions i become the same error. 
> What can i do that i can install dbus?
> 
> Thanks for help & Nice Day Silvio
> 
ls -al would be helpful
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi, problem, problem, problem

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On 12/19/13 17:50, Bruce Hill wrote:
> I *believe* if you have the driver built into your kernel: 
> CONFIG_IPW2200=y then you need to have the firmware listed with
> these 2 lines: CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE="ipw2200-bss.fw" 
> CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE_DIR="/lib/firmware/" (Something similar to
> the CONFIG_EXTRA_FIRMWARE line. I don't use ipw2200 and that might
> not be the proper way. You said the file is there, you checked, so 
> you should know the proper path and syntax.)
iirc I tried specifying extra firmware but it didn't load.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wifi, problem, problem, problem

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On 12/19/13 17:19, Florian HEGRON wrote:
> 
> 
> On 2013-12-19 12:05, Ivan T. Ivanov wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 09:54 +0100, Florian HEGRON wrote:
>> 
>> On 2013-12-19 09:47, Ivan T. Ivanov wrote:
>>> Hi Florian,
>>> 
>> Hi
>>> On Thu, 2013-12-19 at 09:08 +0100, Florian HEGRON wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I found the line !!
>>> 
>>> I had to enable wireless extension option on Network Support
>>> -> Wireless
>>> 
>>> So I enable my card support, and I reboot (I already emerge 
>>> ipw2200-firmware).
>>> 
>>> #dmesg | grep 2200 [1.180583] ipw2200: Intel(R)
>>> PRO/Wireless 2200/2915 Network Driver, 1.2.2k [1.180643]
>>> ipw2200: Copyright(c) 2003-2006 Intel Corporation [
>>> 1.182617] ipw2200: Detected Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network 
>>> Connection [   61.408070] ipw2200: ipw2200-bss.fw
>>> request_firmware failed: Reason -2
>>> 
>>> This means that driver can not find ipw2200-bss.fw file
>>> (probably part  of sys-firmware/ipw2200-firmware) to load it to
>>> wireless card RAM chip. Ensure that you have that file, usually
>>> it is localed in /lib/firmware.
>>> 
>> This file is present, I checked.
>> 
>> 
>> How did you build this driver? I mean as module or it is build in
>> ([M] or [*]). If it is build in it is possible that root file
>> system is not mounted when driver loads. Try to build it as
>> module.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards, Ivan
> 
> Built-in and I don't have initramfs. I will test with module
> compilation and may be with an initramfs. What do you think ?

When I was installing gentoo on my netbook I had to compile
the wifi driver as a module because it couldn't load
firmware if it was built in. Didn't find any other solution.

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Re: [gentoo-user] re: make distclean

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On 12/16/13 23:30, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
> Interesting option. Wish it had said it would nuke my .config as
> well. Just finished setting it up. Thought I'd follow the advice
> given before rebuilding the kernel. Should've backed up the .config
> file prior to running 'make distclean'.
Thanks for the heads up.
Perhaps it's a good idea to include configuration in the binary.
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Re: [gentoo-user] KWin closed unexpexctedly:(

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On 12/05/13 12:25, Jackie wrote:
> Hello! I am using Gentoo with kernel-3.11.6 & KDE-4.11.4. It's been
> a while since I last used Gentoo,but when I login yesterday via
> KDM,my desktop went blackout emmediately with only mouse cursor(I
> could still move it) and my conky there.I didn't even know what
> happened. I then reboot and used openbox/KDE session and it worked
> all properly and I upgraded my system.After all that I rebooted
> again and KDE still isn't working now.All I know is that when I log
> in all is black...I tried to remove ~/.kde4 but nothing got any
> better.I checked .xsession-error and didn't really understand and I
> put it here https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7800556.Any help?I
> just don't know what to do now
> 
What about X log?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Can we get users more involved in specific testing?

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On 11/14/13 18:48, James wrote:
> hasufell  gentoo.org> writes:
> 
> 
>>>> I have often had a hard time to get some random users comment
>>>> on certain packages or even assist on some runtime tests. I
>>>> don't even know how many people use the package I maintain.
> 
>>> When a new package is installed or upgraded, there are notes
>>> that the installer is optioned (and notified upon installation)
>>> about the package.  Might it be a good idea to put your testing
>>> pleadings in the notes for those how install the package
>>> (stable, testing, experimental or overlay) about how to contact
>>> whoever related to the specific testing you want done? I. E.
>>> "eselect news" or is this a bad idea?
> 
>> I think people will not like having that in eselect news. There
>> could be a similar thing like:  eslect test-requests but the
>> question is if that will get bloated and other stuff I'm not sure
>> about.
> 
> Other than news, folks will not read it. As long as the
> announcement is short!: TESTERS_WANTED (url to details), then you
> hit the specific group, actually using the software; responding
> because they care. It affects them directly. Futhermore, they can
> quickly become the best testers, because most will use the target
> package, frequently.
> 
> 
>> The easiest thing I can think of is a project site on our wiki
>> which would also point to relevant bugs. Then again... who really
>> wants to maintain that.
> 
> This approach will fail, because it is a blunt instrument. Too many
> will get the managerie of info about things they can little for
> (zippO)
> 
>> All other ideas are even more advanced. I wonder if we could add
>> a keyword on bugzie like REQUSERTEST... so bored users could
>> easily get a list of such bugs. But who would really use that?
> 
> Bugzilla is a wonderful, but BLUNT instrument, hence few bother
> with filling bugs.   Gentoo devs are very picky about what get's
> filed so for Gentoo issues, FOCUS on where the actual users can be
> reached, with a focused message, imho. I. E. request testers from
> the pool of folks that actually install a given package. Ya don't
> have to get folks to test things like portage, cause we all use it
> and care about it and bitch about it (that is until Zac took it
> over and slaid the deamon_portage.
> 
> A given ancillary package usually has few users, so find a way to 
> communicate with those packages_installers as the pool for
> potential testers, with whatevery instrument you like.
> Mathematically, blunt instruments fail more than 99% of the time,
> particularly the tigher the desired end result is...
> 
> 
> Besides, most do not read the ebuild notes availabe in the 'eselect
> news', imho.
> 

A seperate mailing list?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can we get users more involved in specific testing?

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> So when any1 of you is really bored, he could chime in there, do
> some random testing (or maybe you already use it on a daily
> basis...) and report it. It wouldn't really need to be
> professional.

Sure, but x86 only and not very long compile time :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] How can I fix wrong boot order?

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On 10/29/13 22:47, Jarry wrote:
> Hi Gentoo-users, I noticed strange message during boot-up of one of
> my servers: 
> __
> 
> * Bringing up interface lo *   127.0.0.1/8 ...
> [ok] *   Adding routes * 127.0.0.0/8 via 127.0.0.1 ...
> [ok] * Activating additional swap space ...
> [ok] * setting up tmpfiles.d entries ...
> [ok] * Initializing random number generator ...
> [ok] INIT: Entering runlevel: 3 * Starting clamd ...
> [ok] * Starting freshclam ...
> [ok] * Checking your configfile (/etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf)
> [ok] * Starting syslog-ng... Connection failed; fd='10',
> server='AF_INET(10.0.0.171:514)', local='AF_INET(0.0.0.0:0)',
> error='Network is unreachable (101)' Initiating connection failed,
> reconnecting: time_reopen='60' * Loading iptables state and
> starting firewall ... [ok] * Bringing up interface enp3s0 *
> 10.0.0.174 ... [ok] *
> Adding routes * default via 10.0.0.138 ...
> [ok] * Starting saslauthd ...
> [ok] * Starting dovecot ...
> [ok] * Starting monit ...
> [ok] 
> ______
> 
> As you see, syslog-ng can not open conection to remote syslog 
> collector. Reason seems to be quite clear: at the time when 
> syslog-ng starts, enp3s0 interface is not up (only loopback). I do
> not know how this happened, but I think it has something to do with
> either sendmail, clamav, or dovecot.
> 
> This is boot-up of my other server (syslog-collector) where neither
> sendmail nor clamav is installed. As you can see, boot-up order is
> correct (network interface before syslog-ng): 
> __
> 
> * Bringing up interface lo *   127.0.0.1/8 ...
> [ok] *   Adding routes * 127.0.0.0/8 via 127.0.0.1 ...
> [ok] * Activating additional swap space ...
> [ok] * setting up tmpfiles.d entries ...
> [ok] * Initializing random number generator ...
> [ok] INIT: Entering runlevel: 3 * Loading iptables state and
> starting firewall ... [ok] * Starting monit ...
> [ok] * Bringing up interface enp3s0 *   10.0.0.171 ...
> [ok] *   Adding routes * default via 10.0.0.138 ...
> [ok] * Mounting network filesystems ...
> [ok] * Checking your configfile (/etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf)
> [ok] * Starting syslog-ng...
> [ok] * Starting sshd ...
> [ok] * Starting vixie-cron ...
> [ok] 
> __
> 
> So how can I fix it on the 1st server, so that syslog-ng starts 
> after network interface is up?

init script dependencies and strict requirements?

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Re: [gentoo-user] re: media-video/vlc-2.0.9 depends on net-misc/freerdp

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On 10/26/13 19:52, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
> I've updated vlc today, which pulled in freerdp as a dependency. Is
> that normal? Why would a media player require a remote desktop
> application client?
> 
> box0=; equery -C depends --indirect net-misc/freerdp-1.1.0_beta1 *
> These packages depend on net-misc/freerdp-1.1.0_beta1: 
> media-video/vlc-2.0.9 (net-misc/freerdp:0)
> 
> Thanks.
possibly it's one of the clone options

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel ricing

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On 10/24/13 12:58, Adam Carter wrote:
> The CFLAGs used when building the kernel are set in the Makefile; #
> grep HOSTCFLAGS /usr/src/linux/Makefile HOSTCFLAGS   = -Wall
> -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
> 
> To build with other flags you set CFLAGS_KERNEL, so i've added a 
> suitable -march to the standard ones for my system; export
> CFLAGS_KERNEL=" -Wall -Wmissing-prototypes -Wstrict-prototypes -O2
> -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -march=amdfam10"
> 
> then make, install, reboot. In my case the riced kernel is the same
> size as the regular one, but the md5 is different. Its been up for
> an hour with no obvious issues, and does seem snappier, but of
> course my brain is full of cognitive bias. Has anyone else played
> with this? Any good or bad outcomes?
> 
I was thinking of compiling The Kernel with custom cflags, but never
tried. Looking forward to your report.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

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On 10/15/13 16:44, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
> On 2013-09-26 14:42, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
>> On one of my machines, I get continuous beeping from the
>> internal loudspeaker when I boot a newer kernel (I'm using
>> vanilla-sources). I first had that with 3.10.8 and also with
>> 3.10.10, and it continues with 3.11.1.
> [...]
>> In the meantime I left the machine on long enough to discover
>> that it stops beeping whenever it is idle long enough and blanks
>> the display.
> 
> Well, this is embarrassing: Since this began I switched the machine
> on even less often than before, but yesterday I found out by chance
> that the sound did not come from the internal speaker but from the
> speakers built into my screen. Now I traced it to the snd-hda-intel
> kernel module (noise there if loaded, sound gone when removed with
> |modprobe -r|).
> 
> Why was the sound never heard on bootup in 3.8.x kernels but is
> starting with 3.10.1?
> 
> Peter.
> 
> P.S.: At least now I know that the easy workaround is to tune the 
> (hardware) speaker volume down to 0...
> 
nice joke
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Re: [gentoo-user] USB disk automatically mounting: how does it work

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On 10/06/13 20:12, Chris Stankevitz wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Would you please explain (or refer me to a place that explains)
> the mechanism by which an USB drive appears on my desktop?  I'm
> looking for a level of detail like this:
> 
> When you insert a USB device, the kernel sends out a notification
> A. Userland daemons such as B can catch this signal.  A file
> B.conf describes what to do in response to a certain class of USB
> devices and in there you will see a section for disk drives that
> says mount them at location C.  Then B sends out a notification D
> which window managers can catch if they want.  GNOME and others
> catch D and in response put an icon on the desktop.  The reason
> lowly users can mount and write to these devices is E.
> 
> PS: These topics are a blur in my mind: udev hotplug coldplug
> session pam.  I suspect these words are used to fill in some of the
> variables in my pseudo-description above.

Udev rules?

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Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

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On 09/29/13 15:03, Greg Woodbury wrote:
> On 09/29/2013 06:55 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> 
>> why do you bring up udev and systemd AT ALL?
>> 
>> They are not the problem or the reason why seperate /usr is prone
>> to break.
>> 
> Except that systemd *is* why a seperate /usr is broken now. Parts
> of the libraries that systemd depend on we *deliberately* placed in
> /usr despite the fact that they are needed to bbring the system to
> an operational state.  For *years* things required to boot the
> system were defined to be in the root file system, and items not
> required until after mounting had been accomplished were to be
> placed in /usr.

Why would someone do that?

> BTW: There is a standard (The File System Hierarch Standard - FSS)
> that existed and described this behaviour.  It was killed off by
> deliberate vendor refusals to support or adhere to it.  In
> frustration, the folks involved simply gave up.
> 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Continuous beeping with kernel 3.10 and 3.11

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On 09/26/13 16:42, Peter Weilbacher wrote:
> On one of my machines, I get continuous beeping from the internal 
> loudspeaker when I boot a newer kernel (I'm using vanilla-sources).
> I first had that with 3.10.8 and also with 3.10.10, and it
> continues with 3.11.1.
> 
> When I first had that problem I tried to remove all config options
> that had to do with the internal speaker, like 
> CONFIG_HAVE_PCSPKR_PLATFORM CONFIG_PCSPKR_PLATFORM 
> CONFIG_INPUT_PCSPKR but that didn't help.
> 
> In the meantime I left the machine on long enough to discover that
> it stops beeping whenever it is idle long enough and blanks the
> display.
> 
> Does that ring a bell with someone? Peter.

Might be related with some kind of io error.
What does dmesg show?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge reminder

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On 09/25/13 16:42, Bruce Hill wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 01:40:41PM +0400, the wrote:
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>> emerge reminder to use dispatch-conf after autounmask
>> disappeared. want it back
> 
> autounmask should disappear. It's a bad idea, because it *creates*
> single version (=) unmasked packages that later *require*
> intervention. Every day in #gentoo we see people who can't resolve
> dep issues because of autounmask.
> 

So should it be patched or removed?
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[gentoo-user] emerge reminder

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emerge reminder to use dispatch-conf after autounmask disappeared.
want it back
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo on a kvm - can't install kernel sources

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On 08/25/13 17:51, Michael Mair-Keimberger wrote:
> Hi List,
> 
> 
> 
> Since a few days i'm trying to install gentoo on a kvm guest from 
> edis.at. They support to boot from a gentoo minimal live-cd in
> order to install your own gentoo. The system has 5GB storage and
> 256MB ram. Actually that should be enough for a minimal
> installation. However, till now i couldn't get over that point
> where i'm trying to install the kernel sources...

IMHO, 5Gb is not enough, have you tried df -h?


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Re: [gentoo-user] startx with multiple window managers

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$ xinit lxsession -- :1
?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative

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On 08/23/13 19:48, Marc Stürmer wrote:
> Am 23.08.2013 12:50, schrieb the:
>> Does that mean that I should buy hardware to match software
>> requirements?
> 
> Do you really want to tell me that you are still working on a
> Pentium 133 with maybe 64 MB of RAM?

left my celeron 566 MHz 256 ram 2 years ago
(couldn't run gnome, emacs and firefox at the same time).
currently using 1.2 GHz x2 p3, 1,5 Gb ram w/ gentoo.
I work, play games (it's sometimes sad that
I can't enjoy videos marked "for mobile devices" though).
I think that skypes takes too much
ram _to accomplish its task_.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative

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On 08/23/13 15:25, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
> On 23.08.2013 13:42, the wrote:
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>> On 08/23/13 13:21, Stroller wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 22 August 2013, at 17:08, hasufell wrote:
>>>> … I was arguing from both sides. It is buggy, crashes a lot, 
>>>> consumes a lot of ressources and is able to slow down your
>>>> whole desktop, mess with audio settings and whatnot.
>>> 
>>> My granny never had these problems, using Skype on her PC.
>> I can assure you that skype consumes tremendous amount of ram.
> 
> Not defending Skype in any way, but tremendous is not calculable. 
> In these words, e.g. KDE consumes even more tremendous amounts. So
> what, stop using KDE now?

That's what I did.

> As to bugs, don't think Skype has more bugs than KDE. Crashes,
> slowdowns and UI troubles - KDE is plentiful with them. Stop using
> KDE now? And it would be interesting to see a program (somewhat
> more complex than printf('%s', 'Hello world'); ) which does not
> suffer from all these issues. The main criterion of quality of
> software is whether it suits users' needs. All that "technical"
> stuff is about talking. The user never sees the code, rarely sees
> the resource utilization, and what he observes most of the time is
> the result of using the software. If the user manages to achieve
> his goal, the software is successful. If not, the quality of code
> and UI and resource consumption matter nothing. The advanced user
> will probably aim at minimizing RAM usage, improving UI, opening
> the source code etc. but after all software quality is only the
> users' perceived matching of expectations with results.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative

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On 08/23/13 15:10, Yuri K. Shatroff wrote:
> On 23.08.2013 14:50, the wrote:
>> On 08/23/13 14:39, Marc Stürmer wrote:
>>> Well... Nowadays RAM is so cheap that this is really no issue. 
>>> Most recent Computers ship at last with 4 GB so what the Heck.
>> 
>> Does that mean that I should buy hardware to match software
>> requirements?
> 
> Has it ever been different? Do people buy servers just because
> those are millions $ worth? Do people buy top 3D adapters for the
> same reason?

Well perhaps I'm not in a subset of "people".
Do you have a lot of friends who bought
a personal server "millions $ worth" ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative

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On 08/23/13 14:39, Marc Stürmer wrote:
> Well... Nowadays RAM is so cheap that this is really no issue.
> Most recent Computers ship at last with 4 GB so what the Heck.

Does that mean that I should buy hardware to match
software requirements?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative

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On 08/23/13 13:21, Stroller wrote:
> 
> On 22 August 2013, at 17:08, hasufell wrote:
>> … I was arguing from both sides. It is buggy, crashes a lot,
>> consumes a lot of ressources and is able to slow down your whole
>> desktop, mess with audio settings and whatnot.
> 
> My granny never had these problems, using Skype on her PC.
I can assure you that skype consumes tremendous amount of ram.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative

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On 08/20/13 19:12, Randy Westlund wrote:
> For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype.  I've
> heard several people mention jitsi, but was surprised to find that
> it's not in the portage tree.
> 
> Is jitsi being actively maintained in an overlay somewhere?  Are
> there plans to put jitsi in the main tree?
> 
> Are there other other good alternatives to skype that are supported
> on gentoo?  What do you guys use?

Bear in mind that there's no free replacement for skype.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Jitsi or Other Skype Alternative

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On 08/20/13 19:12, Randy Westlund wrote:
> For a multitude of reasons, I'd like to get rid of skype.
Fun fact.
When I installed Syser (mustdie kernel debugger), Skype began to
complain about it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] How to get video output in the same window as the interface

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On 08/17/13 18:14, Andrew Lowe wrote:
> Hi all, I just did an "emerge world" and now my vlc interface has
> gone feral. Previously a double click on a video would bring up one
> window with the video in the centre and the controls surrounding
> it, play, stop, progress bar etc. Now when it starts up, I get two
> windows, one that contains the controls and a black rectangle with
> the vlc witch's hat in the middle and another with the video
> playing. I've tried all sorts of options but can't seem to find the
> right combo - I probably can't see the wood for the trees after
> playing around with it so much. Does anyone have any idea what the
> config option is so I can bring things back to how they were?

VLC has different display modes.
The availability of these modes is
determined by use flags.
can you please write which video modes are available?
(tools -> preferences -> video -> output )
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Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

[the . guard]

> But requiring
> people to have an initramfs to boot a system that doesn't legitimately
> require it is silly. I don't even have /usr mounted separately, but
> there are many, many different system configurations out there and
> Gentoo is famous for supporting a wide variety. That variety is stomped
> on if something like a /usr merge is forced. It also makes building your
> default environment more complicated due to generating an initramfs.

Absolutely agreed.

Re: [gentoo-user] How to determine 'Least Common Denominator' between Xen(Server) Hosts

[the]

On 08/14/13 09:18, Pandu Poluan wrote:

Hello list!

My company has 2 HP DL585 G5 servers and 5 Dell R... something servers.
All using AMD processors. They currently are acting as XenServer hosts.

How do I determine the 'least common denominator' for Gentoo VMs
(running as XenServer guests), especially for gcc flags?

I know that the (theoretical) best performance is to use -march=native ,
but since the processors of the HP servers are not exactly the same as
the Dell's, I'm concerned that compiling with -march=native will render
the VMs unable to migrate between the different hosts.

Note: Yes I know the HP servers are much older than the Dell ones, but
if I go -march=native then perform an emerge when the guest is on the
Dell host, the guest VM might not be able to migrate to the older HPs.

Rgds,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

[the]

On 08/13/13 18:05, Alessio Ababilov wrote:

"/usr merge" is the process of making /bin, /sbin, and /lib to be
symlinks to corresponding directories in /usr. It is done in Fedora and
several other distros now, and also in Solaris 15 years ago.
Benefits from /usr merge are described here:
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge/
Technical details are here:
http://aababilov.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/usr-merge-in-gentoo/

In few words, the script is run once to merge /usr on a running system.
Also, the script is installed in post_src_install hook to perform /usr
merge during package updates or installations.


The site doesn't describe any real problems.

Also I don't see how the current dir tree is not compatible
with gnu autoconf/automake.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

[the]

On 07/07/13 20:07, Tanstaafl wrote:

On 2013-07-06 8:12 AM, Bruce Hill  wrote:

NB: I only sell the best A/V software on the market, which hasn't
missed a virus in the  wild since it's inception.


Not to start a flamewar on which is the best AV, but I'm curious which
one this is?


I'm curious why would anybody need one?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Linux viruses

[the]

On 07/06/13 02:21, Dale wrote:

William Kenworthy wrote:

On 06/07/13 04:12, Dale wrote:

I had a interesting adventure the other day.  A friend of mine's son is
getting ready to go to college.  Budget is tight so we went to find a
used laptop for him.  I went into the local puter shop and the techie
guy there had a interesting statement that makes me think I'm not
recommending them for computer service to anyone else.  While we was
chatting, he said that Linux is just as prone to getting a virus as
windoze and so is a Mac.  I think my laughing let him know I wasn't
buying his comment.

I since did some googling and it seems I am right and he just thought I
was some know nothing guy he could sell some service too.  Anyway, has
anything changed to make Linux more prone to viruses than it used to
be?  I read a percentage somewhere that said like 99% of viruses are
windoze only.  Is there a indisputable source of information on this?

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)


food for thought - some years back a member of the local lug picked up
that something was listening on a port that he didn't think should be in
use.  Turned out to be an infected windows binary running under wine ...

I presume he had been using wine and this was left running, rather than
self starting.

BillK





Well, no Wine here.  So that won't happen.  Actually, I don't have a
copy of windoze here at all.  Neither of my two rigs have ever had
windoze installed on them at all.

BTW, I have been known to open those attachments before. I usually open
them with kwrite or something and try to see what is human readable in
there.  Most is machine language but there is usually a small portion
that is human readable.  They sent it and I'm nosy that way.  lol


Perhaps it's easier to use strings?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported

[the]

On 06/29/13 13:30, Zind wrote:


On Sat, Jun 29, 2013 at 4:52 PM, the mailto:the.gu...@mail.ru>> wrote:

Maybe this can be helpful in some way?

http://blechtog.wordpress.com/__2012/08/06/gentoo-ethernet-__atheros-ar8161-gigabit-__ethernet-using-compat-__wireless-module-alx/

<http://blechtog.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/gentoo-ethernet-atheros-ar8161-gigabit-ethernet-using-compat-wireless-module-alx/>


Thanks. It's useful.
But I didn't have Gentoo installed yet.   :-(

 sorry I should have read the original post more thoroughly

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo installation, network adapter not supported

[the]

On 06/29/13 12:16, Zind wrote:

hi all,
I am new to Gentoo. I came across some problems in the Gentoo
installation process.

I got a relatively new laptop: Lenovo IdeaPad Y400.
The Gentoo iso I choose is: admincd-amd64-20130620.iso, from:
http://distfiles.gentoo.org/releases/amd64/autobuilds/20130620/hardened/
After I made the LiveUSB, disabling the UEFI boot, I finally boot into
the Gentoo kernel. But I could not connect to the network.
Using the `ifconfig -a` command, I can only see the loopback interface: lo.
Using the `lspci` command, I can see the two network adapters:
(1) the Ethernet adapter
Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR8161 Gigabit Ethernet
(2) the wireless adapter
Network controller: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 BGN
(The two network adapters both work well under Windows 8.)

After several times of STFW, I can confirm it's a network adapter driver
support issue: lacks of coresponding network adapter drivers.
For the AR8161 network adapter, it requires the alx kernal module: alx.ko.
Previously, I thought I could at least compile this driver by myself,
but soon I found it lacks of build-essential packages, too. :-(

For the wireless network adapter, I can find
iwlwifi-2030-6.ucode(coresponding to Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2230 BGN
adapter) under /lib/firmware, I tried the `modprobe iwlwifi` command,
still doesn't work. Weird.

Uh... I don't know what to do next to continue the installation.
Any suggestion or advice is appreciated.

PS.
several links which I found useful:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/165192/how-do-i-install-drivers-for-the-atheros-ar8161-ethernet-controller
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2089512
http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi


Maybe this can be helpful in some way?
http://blechtog.wordpress.com/2012/08/06/gentoo-ethernet-atheros-ar8161-gigabit-ethernet-using-compat-wireless-module-alx/


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Re: [gentoo-user] Managing cronbase

[the]

On 06/23/13 02:33, Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Sat, 22 Jun 2013 10:19:18 -0700, Grant wrote:


I need /usr/sbin/logcheck for the courier_ munin plugin so I emerged
app-admin/logcheck.  logcheck creates /etc/cron.hourly/logcheck.cron
which emails me hourly.  What is the Gentoo-friendly method for
disabling that?  I could delete the file or comment a key line but
maybe there's a more appropriate method?


Unset the executable bit.


Good one!


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[gentoo-user] Empty GLU

[the guard]

 Hello, friends!
After emerging media-libs/glu-9.0.0 I get an empty shared library. Hence I get 
a link time error emerging some
other packages that require GLU. Do you mind sharing your symbols? Any 
suggestions on how to fix this?

# nm -D /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3.1 
 w _Jv_RegisterClasses
 U _Unwind_Resume
 U _ZTVN10__cxxabiv117__class_type_infoE
 U _ZTVN10__cxxabiv120__si_class_type_infoE
 U _ZTVN10__cxxabiv121__vmi_class_type_infoE
 U _ZdaPv
 U _ZdlPv
 U _Znaj
 U _Znwj
 U __assert_fail
0008013c A __bss_start
 w __cxa_finalize
 U __cxa_pure_virtual
 U __fprintf_chk
 w __gmon_start__
 U __gxx_personality_v0
 U __longjmp_chk
 U __printf_chk
0008013c A _edata
00080144 A _end
00062c18 T _fini
1e44 T _init
 U _setjmp
 U abort
 U cosf
 U exit
 U fclose
 U floorf
 U fopen
 U fputc
 U free
 U fscanf
 U fwrite
 U glBegin
 U glColor3f
 U glDisable
 U glEnable
 U glEnd
 U glEvalCoord1f
 U glEvalCoord2f
 U glEvalMesh1
 U glEvalMesh2
 U glEvalPoint1
 U glEvalPoint2
 U glGetFloatv
 U glGetIntegerv
 U glGetString
 U glGetTexLevelParameteriv
 U glMap1f
 U glMap2f
 U glMapGrid1f
 U glMapGrid2d
 U glMapGrid2f
 U glMultMatrixd
 U glMultMatrixf
 U glNormal3f
 U glNormal3fv
 U glOrtho
 U glPixelStorei
 U glPolygonMode
 U glPopAttrib
 U glPushAttrib
 U glScalef
 U glTexCoord2f
 U glTexImage1D
 U glTexImage2D
 U glTexImage3D
 U glTranslated
 U glTranslatef
 U glVertex2f
 U glVertex2fv
 U glVertex3f
 U glVertex3fv
 U malloc
 U memcpy
 U putchar
 U puts
 U realloc
 U sincos
 U sincosf
 U sinf
 U sqrt
 U sqrtf
 U stderr
 U strcmp
 U strcpy
 U strlen
 U strtod
 U strtok

# file /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3.1 
/usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3.1: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, Intel 80386, version 1 
(SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped

# ls -alh /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3.1 
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 510K Jun  9 11:29 /usr/lib/libGLU.so.1.3.1

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/lib/dri/i810_dri.so: No such file or directory

[the guard]

 Grant :
> I'm getting this in /var/log/Xorg.0.log on a very old desktop:
> 
> (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/dri/i810_dri.so failed
> (/usr/lib/dri/i810_dri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such
> file or directory)
> (EE) AIGLX: reverting to software rendering
> 
> The system is remote to me but I'm pretty sure X is working.  I think
> it's supposed to be a mesa file but I've tried reinstalling mesa:
> 
> [ebuild   R] media-libs/mesa-9.1.2-r1  USE="classic egl gallium
> llvm nptl pax_kernel pic shared-glapi -bindist -debug -gbm -gles1
> -gles2 -openvg -osmesa (-r600-llvm-compiler) (-selinux) -vdpau
> (-wayland) -xa -xorg -xvmc" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7
> -python2_6" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 -python2_6" VIDEO_CARDS="intel
> -i915 -i965 -nouveau -r100 -r200 -r300 -r600 -radeon (-radeonsi)
> -vmware"
> 
> - Grant
Looks like Intel video driver.

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] IPTables - Going Stateless

[the guard]

Вторник, 21 мая 2013, 11:07 -04:00 от Nick Khamis :
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> We recently moved our stateful firewall inside, and would like to
> strip down the firewall at our router connected to the outside world.
> The problem I am experiencing is getting things to work properly
> without connection tracking. I hope I am not in breach of mailing list
> rules however, a stripped down configuration is as follows:
> 
> #!/bin/bash
> IPTABLES='/sbin/iptables'
> 
> #Set interface values
> INTIF1='eth0'
> 
> #flush rules and delete chains
> $IPTABLES -F
> $IPTABLES -X
> 
> #echo -e "   - Accepting input lo traffic"
> $IPTABLES -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT
> 
> #echo -e "   - Accepting output lo traffic"
> $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o lo -j ACCEPT
> 
> #echo -e "   - Defined Chains"
> $IPTABLES -N TCP
> $IPTABLES -N UDP
> 
> #echo -e "   - Accepting SSH Traffic"
> $IPTABLES -A TCP -p tcp -m tcp -s 192.168.2.0/24 -d 192.168.2.5
> --dport 22 -j ACCEPT
> $IPTABLES -A TCP -p tcp -m tcp -s 0.0.0.0/0 -d 192.168.2.5 --dport 22 -j DROP
> 
> #echo -e "   - Accepting input TCP and UDP traffic to open ports"
> $IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $INTIF1 -p tcp --syn -j TCP
> $IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $INTIF1 -p udp -j UDP
> 
> #echo -e "   - Accepting output TCP and UDP traffic to open ports"
> $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $INTIF1 -p tcp --syn -j TCP
> $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $INTIF1 -p udp -j UDP
> 
> #echo -e "   - Dropping input TCP and UDP traffic to closed ports"
> # $IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $INTIF1 -p tcp -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-rst
> # $IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $INTIF1 -p udp -j REJECT --reject-with
> icmp-port-unreachable
> 
> #echo -e "   - Dropping output TCP and UDP traffic to closed ports"
> # $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $INTIF1 -p tcp -j REJECT --reject-with tcp-rst
> # $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $INTIF1 -p udp -j REJECT --reject-with
> icmp-port-unreachable
> 
> #echo -e "   - Dropping input traffic to remaining protocols sent
> to closed ports"
> # $IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $INTIF1 -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-proto-unreachable
> 
> #echo -e "   - Dropping output traffic to remaining protocols sent
> to closed ports"
> # $IPTABLES -A OUTPUT -o $INTIF1 -j REJECT --reject-with 
> icmp-proto-unreachable
> 
> 
> Everything works fine with the REJECT rules commented out, but when
> included SSH access is blocked out. Not sure why, isn't the sequence
> correct (i.e., the ACCPET entries before the DROP and REJECT)?
> 
> Also, any pointers or heads up when going stateless would be greatly
> appreciated.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> 
> Nick

Looks like the packet never gets to the tcp chain. what is --syn?

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Alsa Question

[the guard]

Пятница, 17 мая 2013, 20:30 +02:00 от Silvio Siefke :
> Hello,
> 
> 
> i have build the kernel without modules, all what i need i built in Kernel
> fix. All Howto i see for alsa from Gentoo is with modules, but what i must
> do, when i have fix in Kernel. 
I beleive that if you build the sound card driver into kernel alsa cann have 
problems 
detecting the card. but once alsa has detected the card it should have no 
difference 
weather you built it into kernel or not.

[gentoo-user] microphone

[the guard]

 Hi.
My sound playback works fine. when I try to record sound via sox rec I get 
nothing. in the file, but i can hear myself in the headphones while recording.
cat /proc/asound/card0/pcm0c/info 
card: 0
device: 0
subdevice: 0
stream: CAPTURE
id: ALC272X Analog
name: ALC272X Analog
subname: subdevice #0
class: 0
subclass: 0
subdevices_count: 1
subdevices_avail: 1

cat /proc/asound/card0/pcm0p/info  
card: 0
device: 0
subdevice: 0
stream: PLAYBACK
id: ALC272X Analog
name: ALC272X Analog
subname: subdevice #0
class: 0
subclass: 0
subdevices_count: 1
subdevices_avail: 1

Could you help me out with that?

[gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with iptables logging (iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.)

[the guard]

Суббота,  4 мая 2013, 14:06 -04:00 от Nick Khamis :
> On 5/4/13, the guard  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Суббота,  4 мая 2013, 12:41 -04:00 от Nick Khamis :
> >> Hello Everyone,
> >>
> >> While trying to include a logging chain to our IPTables rules, I am
> >> receiving the following
> >> error: (iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.
> >>
> >> The chain looks like:
> >>
> >> # Set Log Limit
> >> LOGLIMIT="2/s"
> >> LOGLIMITBURST="10"
> >>
> >> $IPTABLES -N LOGDROP
> >>
> >> #echo -e "   - Logging Dropped Traffic"
> >> # $IPTABLES -A LOGDROP -i $INTIF1 -p tcp -m limit --limit $LOGLIMIT
> >> --limit-burst $LOGLIMITBURST -j LOG --log-prefix "TCP LOGDROP: "
> >>
> >> # $IPTABLES -A LOGDROP -j DROP
> >> # $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p icmp -i $INTIF1 -j LOGDROP
> >> # $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp  -i $INTIF1 -j LOGDROP
> >> # $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p udp  -i $INTIF1 -j LOGDROP
> >>
> >> Some searching caused me to make sure that I have the correct modules
> >> loaded:
> >>
> >> modprobe ipt_LOG
> >>
> >> Module  Size  Used by
> >> iptable_nat 3220  0
> >> nf_nat 11228  1 iptable_nat
> >> ipt_LOG 6454  0
> >> ipt_REJECT  1917  3
> >> nf_conntrack_ipv4   9141  10 nf_nat,iptable_nat
> >> nf_defrag_ipv4   847  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
> >> iptable_filter   988  1
> >> ip_tables   8370  2 iptable_filter,iptable_nat
> >>
> >>
> >> But still no go.
> >>
> > 6 or 4?
> >
> 
> 
> I was gazing at your question for a sec. 4 :). I thought you were asking
> about kernel minor+ version, or iptables version... IPV4 Sir :)
> 
> N.
> 
> 
Sorry, my bad. -L?

[gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with iptables logging (iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.)

[the guard]

Суббота,  4 мая 2013, 14:06 -04:00 от Nick Khamis :
> On 5/4/13, the guard  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Суббота,  4 мая 2013, 12:41 -04:00 от Nick Khamis :
> >> Hello Everyone,
> >>
> >> While trying to include a logging chain to our IPTables rules, I am
> >> receiving the following
> >> error: (iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.
> >>
> >> The chain looks like:
> >>
> >> # Set Log Limit
> >> LOGLIMIT="2/s"
> >> LOGLIMITBURST="10"
> >>
> >> $IPTABLES -N LOGDROP
> >>
> >> #echo -e "   - Logging Dropped Traffic"
> >> # $IPTABLES -A LOGDROP -i $INTIF1 -p tcp -m limit --limit $LOGLIMIT
> >> --limit-burst $LOGLIMITBURST -j LOG --log-prefix "TCP LOGDROP: "
> >>
> >> # $IPTABLES -A LOGDROP -j DROP
> >> # $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p icmp -i $INTIF1 -j LOGDROP
> >> # $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp  -i $INTIF1 -j LOGDROP
> >> # $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p udp  -i $INTIF1 -j LOGDROP
> >>
> >> Some searching caused me to make sure that I have the correct modules
> >> loaded:
> >>
> >> modprobe ipt_LOG
> >>
> >> Module  Size  Used by
> >> iptable_nat 3220  0
> >> nf_nat 11228  1 iptable_nat
> >> ipt_LOG 6454  0
> >> ipt_REJECT  1917  3
> >> nf_conntrack_ipv4   9141  10 nf_nat,iptable_nat
> >> nf_defrag_ipv4   847  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
> >> iptable_filter   988  1
> >> ip_tables   8370  2 iptable_filter,iptable_nat
> >>
> >>
> >> But still no go.
> >>
> > 6 or 4?
> >
> 
> 
> I was gazing at your question for a sec. 4 :). I thought you were asking
> about kernel minor+ version, or iptables version... IPV4 Sir :)
> 
> N.
> 
> 

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with iptables logging (iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.)

[the guard]

Суббота,  4 мая 2013, 12:41 -04:00 от Nick Khamis :
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> While trying to include a logging chain to our IPTables rules, I am
> receiving the following
> error: (iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.
> 
> The chain looks like:
> 
> # Set Log Limit
> LOGLIMIT="2/s"
> LOGLIMITBURST="10"
> 
> $IPTABLES -N LOGDROP
> 
> #echo -e "   - Logging Dropped Traffic"
> # $IPTABLES -A LOGDROP -i $INTIF1 -p tcp -m limit --limit $LOGLIMIT
> --limit-burst $LOGLIMITBURST -j LOG --log-prefix "TCP LOGDROP: "
> 
> # $IPTABLES -A LOGDROP -j DROP
> # $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p icmp -i $INTIF1 -j LOGDROP
> # $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p tcp  -i $INTIF1 -j LOGDROP
> # $IPTABLES -A INPUT -p udp  -i $INTIF1 -j LOGDROP
> 
> Some searching caused me to make sure that I have the correct modules loaded:
> 
> modprobe ipt_LOG
> 
> Module  Size  Used by
> iptable_nat 3220  0
> nf_nat 11228  1 iptable_nat
> ipt_LOG 6454  0
> ipt_REJECT  1917  3
> nf_conntrack_ipv4   9141  10 nf_nat,iptable_nat
> nf_defrag_ipv4   847  1 nf_conntrack_ipv4
> iptable_filter   988  1
> ip_tables   8370  2 iptable_filter,iptable_nat
> 
> 
> But still no go.
> 
6 or 4?

[gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion

[the guard]

Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:54 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon 
:
> On 26/04/2013 22:46, the guard wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon 
> > :
> >> On 26/04/2013 20:54, Paul Hartman wrote:
> >>> On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nick Khamis  wrote:
> >>>> Hello Everyone,
> >>>>
> >>>> We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
> >>>> server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
> >>>> considered viable. I did see the
> >>>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
> >>>> Our services are quite time sensitive.
> >>>
> >>> I think the classic method is to use net-misc/ntp
> >>>
> >>> See the extensive article at http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/NTP for
> >>> great examples and description.
> >>>
> >>
> >> Do none of us here ever deal with Windows? :-)
> >>
> >> I notice that no-one has yet mentioned that Windows does not do ntp, as
> >> Windows does not do time right, doesn't do timezones right and I
> >> strongly suspect can't even do dates right (this latter still unproven)
> >>
> >> Windows time servers need some magic Microsoft thing called ENTP which
> >> is in no way related to the ntp we all know and love
> >>
> > It refuses to adjust time if you have a wrong date.   timezone is set in 
> > your system
> > 
> 
> 
> I was thinking more along the lines of how Windows has no concept of UTC
> set in the hw clock and a local timezone, and how timezones are odd
> things like Harare/Pretoria instead of the official names like
> SAST GMT+2 as set by the scientific timekeeping community.
> 
> How about daylight savings? Can Windows deal with that? Other than by
> just shoving the clock back and forward by an hour on the right days?
> 
> 
All I can say that XP didn't understand our polititians when they cancelled 
"summer time"
daylight saving. btw I saw a good quote in this list. something like  "only a 
white man can believe 
that by tearing a blanket at the bottom and attaching it on the top he will 
make tha blanket longer"

[gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Server system date synchronizaion

[the guard]

Пятница, 26 апреля 2013, 22:41 +02:00 от Alan McKinnon 
:
> On 26/04/2013 20:54, Paul Hartman wrote:
> > On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM, Nick Khamis  wrote:
> >> Hello Everyone,
> >>
> >> We are trying to sync our server's time with an accurate ntp
> >> server, and was wondering which of the many solutions are
> >> considered viable. I did see the
> >> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Time_Synchronization.
> >> Our services are quite time sensitive.
> > 
> > I think the classic method is to use net-misc/ntp
> > 
> > See the extensive article at http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/NTP for
> > great examples and description.
> > 
> 
> Do none of us here ever deal with Windows? :-)
> 
> I notice that no-one has yet mentioned that Windows does not do ntp, as
> Windows does not do time right, doesn't do timezones right and I
> strongly suspect can't even do dates right (this latter still unproven)
> 
> Windows time servers need some magic Microsoft thing called ENTP which
> is in no way related to the ntp we all know and love
> 
It refuses to adjust time if you have a wrong date.   timezone is set in your 
system

[gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] bus error during compilation of gcc

[the guard]

Воскресенье, 21 апреля 2013, 13:27 +01:00 от Mick :
> On Saturday 20 Apr 2013 20:29:31 the guard wrote:
> > Суббота, 20 апреля 2013, 15:25 -04:00 от Forrest Schultz 
> :
> > > Doesn't lowering makeopts just reduce the number of parallel
> > > compilations?
> > 
> > yes, it does. I heard somewhere that bus error is caused by lack of
> > sufficient amount of memory during compilations.I also tried to remove
> > cflags.
> 
> Simplifying cflags to something like: 
> 
>   CFLAGS="-march=native -O2 -pipe"
> 
> may help and also setting makeopts to 1:
> 
>   MAKEOPTS="-j1"
> 
> 
> but none of the above will help if the problem is due to a bug.  Have you 
> done 
> the basics like revdep-rebuild and python-updater?
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Mick
> 
> 
didn't help, Mick

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] A torrent client which can listen to interface

[the guard]

Понедельник, 22 апреля 2013, 22:48 +05:30 от Nilesh Govindrajan 
:
> 
> Hi, 
> I'm looking for a torrent client which can listen to an interface instead of 
> ips. Any pointers? 
ammm. configure transmission to use a specified port and write iptables rules???

[gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Re: bus error during compilation of gcc

[the guard]

Воскресенье, 21 апреля 2013, 19:42 UTC от "Nuno J. Silva (aka njsg)" 
:
> On 2013-04-20, the guard  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Суббота, 20 апреля 2013, 19:56 UTC от Grant Edwards 
> > :
> >> On 2013-04-20, the guard  wrote:
> >> 
> >> > The package i decided to install required a gcc rebuild so I started
> >> > rebuilding it and got a bus error. I've googled and found suggestions
> >> > to lower makeopts, but it didn't help. 
> >> 
> >> Every time I've gotten bus errors when building things it turned out
> >> to be a hardware problem.
> >> 
> >> Bad RAM, failing CPU, failing motherboard power supply capacitors, bad
> >> disk controller card (obviously, that was a _long_ time ago).
> >> 
> >> If I were you, I'd start by running memtest86+ overnight.
> >> 
> > 
> > memtest revealed nothing
> 
> Which does not mean there's nothing there ;-)
> 
No, this isn't funny. Everything else compiles fine. My hardware is fine! It's 
a software problem. How do I fix it?
Should I file a bugreport?

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Re: bus error during compilation of gcc

[the guard]

Суббота, 20 апреля 2013, 19:56 UTC от Grant Edwards :
> On 2013-04-20, the guard  wrote:
> 
> > The package i decided to install required a gcc rebuild so I started
> > rebuilding it and got a bus error. I've googled and found suggestions
> > to lower makeopts, but it didn't help. 
> 
> Every time I've gotten bus errors when building things it turned out
> to be a hardware problem.
> 
> Bad RAM, failing CPU, failing motherboard power supply capacitors, bad
> disk controller card (obviously, that was a _long_ time ago).
> 
> If I were you, I'd start by running memtest86+ overnight.
> 
> -- 
> Grant
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
memtest revealed nothing

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] bus error during compilation of gcc

[the guard]

Суббота, 20 апреля 2013, 15:25 -04:00 от Forrest Schultz :
> 
> Doesn't lowering makeopts just reduce the number of parallel compilations?
> 

yes, it does. I heard somewhere that bus error is caused by lack of sufficient 
amount of memory during compilations.I also tried to remove cflags.

[gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] bus error during compilation of gcc

[the guard]

Суббота, 20 апреля 2013, 23:24 +05:30 от Nilesh Govindrajan :
> On Saturday 20 April 2013 10:59:09 PM IST, the guard wrote:
> > Hello, gentlemen
> >
> > The package i decided to install required a gcc rebuild so I started
> > rebuilding it and got a bus error. I've googled and found suggestions
> > to lower makeopts, but it didn't help.
> >
> 
> Quite interestingly, I had the *exactly* same problem few days ago and 
> I ended up reinstalling it totally.
> 
> 
> 
Excuse me, but reinstalling what?

[gentoo-user] Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Removing pulseaudio

[the guard]

 Sound started working in Counter-Strike 1.6 only after i installed PA

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Sync, emerge -puND world, and WHAM!!! ~100 packages to merge.

[the guard]

Среда, 27 марта 2013, 18:09 UTC от Alan Mackenzie :
>Hi, Gentoo!
>
>Has anybody else seen this?  I did a sync, then emerge -puND world and
>got a list of ~100 packages to merge.  About a third of them seem to be
>new perl stuff, 13 packages with gnome, and a lot of this and that.
>
>Most worrying is sys-fs/udisks-2.1.0.  Should I be worried about this
>(all my other udev-ish stuff is up to date), or will it just work?
>
>But getting such a large update, all at once, seems worrying.  Should I
>worry about anything, or just plough ahead with the update?
>
>-- 
>Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
>
depends on how long it's been since you had the last uodate

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] user folder in path when mounting

[the guard]

Среда, 27 марта 2013, 16:05 -07:00 от Grant :
>I've been mounting my external HD in thunar.  When I clicked the
>device icon, the HD was mounted to /media/VOLUME_LABEL/.  Now I see
>the path has changed to /run/media/grant/VOLUME_LABEL/ and the "grant"
>folder is:
>
>drwxr-x---+ 3 root root
>
>which I think is preventing my automated remote backups from working
>because the backup user's home directory which contains
>authorized_keys is on the backup HD.
>
>What is the right way to get this working again?
>
>- Grant
>
udev rules maybe. 

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with kworld usb dvb-t stick not working

[the guard]

 >error while loading driver (-19)
must be a kernel problem

[gentoo-user] Gnome Applet Problem with Batterie Applet

[Kabel The Real]

Hi out there,

I own an IBM Thinkpad T60, and I use Gentoo with Gnome. Everything is
working very good, except on applet, the  "Batterie Charge Monitor" Applet.
Well this applet or a similar one is very important for me, because I mostly
use my notebook without Power Supply... When I want to add the applet to my
Panel I get the following Error message: The panel encountered a problem
while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_BattstatApplet".
Now I know that the batterie Status indicator is working, because when I use
Kismet it's telling me how long I have batterie. Always starting Kismet to
know how long my power last isn't the right thing to do, so I'm asking you
if you can help me, either to fix the problem with that applet or indicate
me anotherone or a shellcommand to find out how long the power will last...

I'm happy for any hint,

Greetz,
Kabel

Re: [gentoo-user] problem with programms like ssh, tor, on wireless

[Kabel The Real]

Hello,
thanks to everybody, I found the problem on my own by repacing the
/etc/conf.d/net with the one of a friend.

Thanks for your useful hints, helped me to search on the correct places.

Greetz read you soon,
Kabel
On 01/08/07, Abraham Marín Pérez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> William Kenworthy escribió:
> > On Wed, 2007-08-01 at 11:38 +0200, Pongracz Istvan wrote:
> >
> >> 2007. 08. 1, szerda keltezéssel 11.16-kor Kabel The Real ezt írta:
> >>
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> ich have a lot of trouble with my wireless configuration. everything
> >>>
> > ...
> >
> >> Do this:
> >> # /etc/init.d/net.eth0 stop
> >> # rc
> >>
> >>
> > ...
> >
> > Do you have a reference for what rc is/does?  "man rc", "rc -h" and "rc
> > --help" dont help ...
> >
> > BillK
> >
> Maybe you should take a look at this:
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=4
>
> Abraham
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
>
>

[gentoo-user] problem with programms like ssh, tor, but _only_ on wireless

[Kabel The Real]

Hello,

ich have a lot of trouble with my wireless configuration. everything works
fine with my ethernet Card, for ecample ssh, tor, privoxy. But when I use
wireless and no network Cable there programms aren't working. When I try to
start a service like sshd or tor I get the following error message:

 # /etc/init.d/sshd start
 * WARNING:  sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started.

So do you have any idea how I can fix this? I tried so much and never get an
result :'(

greetz,
kabel

[gentoo-user] problem with programms like ssh, tor, on wireless

[Kabel The Real]

Hello,

ich have a lot of trouble with my wireless configuration. everything works
fine with my ethernet Card, for ecample ssh, tor, privoxy. But when I use
wireless and no network Cable there programms aren't working. When I try to
start a service like sshd or tor I get the following error message:

 # /etc/init.d/sshd start
 * WARNING:  sshd is scheduled to start when net.eth0 has started.

So do you have any idea how I can fix this? I tried so much and never get an
result :'(

greetz,
kabel

Re: [gentoo-user] why firefox is so slow?

[The Slash]

On Sunday April 30 2006 16:50, David Morgan wrote:
> On 02:04 Mon 01 May , Farhan Ahmed wrote:
> > Jeff Rollin wrote:
> > > I didn't say DG_DISABLE_DEBUG was a USE flag, I said it was a CFLAG.
> > > And it improves the speed of KDE applications too
> >
> > Read your earlier post.. Anyway where is this CFLAGS 'DG_DISABLE_DEBUG'
> > documented? I cant find any reference to it in man gcc. No usable
> > results came up when i googled it..
>
> $cat example.c
> #include 
>
> #ifdef FISH
>   #define A 1
> #endif
>
> int main()
> {
> if (A == 1)
>   printf("fish!\n");
> }
>
> $ gcc -DFISH example.c -o example
> $ ./example
> fish!
>
> $ gcc example.c -o example
> example.c: In function ‘main’:
> example.c:9: error: ‘A’ undeclared (first use in this function)
> example.c:9: error: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once
> example.c:9: error: for each function it appears in.)
>
> (a fairly contrived example, I know)
>
> --
> Join The no2id Coalition, http://www.no2id.net/
>
> djm

Interesting... I'm still a little bit paranoid about adding this to make.conf, 
though. Can anybody think of a reason why I wouldn't want to add it?

-- 
This is The Slash, signing off **click**

Registered Linux user #386739

Finger me (the_slash) for my public key (and my geek code, as well).
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[gentoo-user] Gentoo server random system files

[Lord Imbrius the Despondent]

Question, all.  Had a Gentoo web server.  Was humming along great for 3 
months.  One morning, I went to ssh into it and it denied me access.  
Mind you, the website hosted by the server was still running.  So I 
walked over to the console and went to log in.  All logins were denied, 
even root.  So I rebooted and attempted to enter single-user mode by 
passing "1" to the kernel command line from GRUB.  And it loaded the 
kernel.  And then stopped with the error "/sbin/init: not found."


After I booted off the Gentoo livecd, I found that the contents of /bin, 
/sbin, and /lib were missing, and that key config files in /etc (like 
passwd, group, and shadow) had turned to total garbage (random 
characters).  So I extracted a new stage3 tarball in the root directory 
and re-created the config files.  It booted fine and ran for about 10 
minutes.  Then, after having ssh'd into it successfully twice, it again 
locked me out.  When I tried a console login, I got the error "udev: 
device node /hda3 not found" and it was locked hard.  Another reboot got 
me to the "/sbin/init: not found" error again.  Now I have completely 
repartitioned the drive and started over.  It SEEMS to be working.  The 
drive is brand new.  Running with recommended settings (UDMA 4).  I've 
never had any I/O errors, no access problems, etc.  It just randomly 
started deleting key files after a few minutes of activity.  Any clues?  
BTW, the drive tools provided by Western Digital find no errors with the 
drive.


-Josh Armstrong
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[gentoo-user] console dispaly

[Hogar The Horrible]

Since I have inslalled gentoo I have a problem. My X works fine but I
have problems with consoles. When I press F2 during system boot I can
see everything. But when my KDE 3.4 starts I can't read the text in my
6 consoles (CTRL+ALT+F1-F6). I can enter them but I can't read the
text because my screen is distorted. I will try to explain what I see.
I can see the text I'm typing but I can't read it because the letters
seem to blink and flash all the time. That is about the left half of
the screen, whereas the right half looks like a bad copy of the left
one with even worse disturbances included. Has anyone had any simmilar
experiences and does enyone know how to solve them. Those disturbunces
are sitll there while I turn off or reboot my computer.

I have a Fujitsu-Siemens laptop Amilo pro v2000. I have integrated GPU :
VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated
Graphics Device (rev 02)
Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics
Device (rev 02)

here are my use flags in make.conf
CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu"
CFLAGS="-march=pentium-m -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

USE="dvd -gnome -ipv6"


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[gentoo-user] Practical Backup Solution

[Lord Imbrius the Despondent]

Hello, all.  I have a small webserver/mail server running Gentoo.  I need to 
find a backup solution that will work for this type of setup.  Unfortunately, 
there is no working driver for a parallel floppy-protocol (backpack) tape 
drive for Linux 2.6.  I've tried LOTS of things to get that drive working 
(it's an Iomega ditto QIC-80 parallel port floppy-protocol tape drive).  I 
also bought a very low quality DVD+RW drive (MagicSpin non-MMC, non-Ricoh - 
no English drivers or instructions, even for windoze).  It fails to do 
anything in Linux.  Most of the time it tells me that there is no media 
inserted when there clearly is.  Other times it gets 3 quarters of the way 
through the write and throws an I/O error.  I need to be able to back up 
around 32-40MB nightly and around 1.2GB weekly.  Speed doesn't matter.  Any 
ideas?  Thanks!
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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 fails to compile

[Lord Imbrius the Despondent]

Yup - running python-updater solved the problem.  I didn't even notice that 
python was upgraded in the last emerge -uD world I did.  Thanks for the hint!

On Friday 06 January 2006 23:47, Jeff wrote:
> On 07/01/2006, at 9:53 AM, Richard Fish wrote:
> > On 1/5/06, Lord Imbrius the Despondent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> Hey guys - I was just doing an emerge -uD world and it comes to a
> >> screeching
> >> halt with "i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: dbus_bindings.c: No such file or
> >> directory"
> >> when compiling sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1.  Any clues?  Thanks.
> >
> > dbus_bindings.c is built from dbus_bindings.pyx using the program
> > pyrex, provided by dev-python/pyrex.  Do you have this package
> > installed?  Did you updated python recently, but forget to run
> > python-updater?
>
> I had a problem yesterday that sounds similar to this after updating
> world. I forgot to include -a in the emerge and so wasn't aware that
> python was upgraded in the update. I don't remember seeing anything
> about dbus_bindings.c in the merge output although there was a
> mention of pyrex (I can't remember the actual message). Running
> python-updater was the answer.
>
> Jeff
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Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 fails to compile

[Lord Imbrius the Despondent]

Nope.  No distcc.  I have ccache enabled, but it also borked when I had it 
disabled.

On Friday 06 January 2006 00:00, Trenton Adams wrote:
> Are you running distcc?  If so, try it without distcc.
>
> On 1/5/06, Lord Imbrius the Despondent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hey guys - I was just doing an emerge -uD world and it comes to a
> > screeching halt with "i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: dbus_bindings.c: No such
> > file or directory" when compiling sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1.  Any clues? 
> > Thanks.
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[gentoo-user] sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1 fails to compile

[Lord Imbrius the Despondent]

Hey guys - I was just doing an emerge -uD world and it comes to a screeching 
halt with "i686-pc-linux-gnu-gcc: dbus_bindings.c: No such file or directory"
when compiling sys-apps/dbus-0.23.4-r1.  Any clues?  Thanks.
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