[gentoo-user] Re: kdelibs -plasma -webkit

2009-03-30 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes:

  If so are they no long valid for kdelibs (in which case
  I leave them in make.conf) or are they completely
  deprecated flages (and hence I should removed them
  from make.conf)?

 The former. Other stuff is likely to make use of plasma and webkit (they are 
 fairly generic things)

OK

got it
Gmane requires more new than old
ok

thx

James









Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kdelibs -plasma -webkit

2009-03-28 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 28 March 2009 19:53:59 James wrote:
 OK, let's play along

 I have both webkit and plasma in my make.conf file.

 So upon checking for updates, I get:

 [ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.1-r3  USE=3dnow acl alsa bzip2 fam
 jpeg2k mmxnls opengl semantic-desktop spell sse sse2 ssl (-altivec)
 -bindist -debug -doc -kdeprefix -kerberos -openexr -test -zeroconf
 (-plasma%) (-webkit%*) 0 kB



 Hm,


 It looks to me as though this version of kdelibs indeed
 uses plasma and webkit but want to delete them, or is
 this portages way of telling that theses are no longer
 valid flags.

The latter. Specifically,

You have these flags in USE, but portage is going to remerge kdelibs without 
them (-) as they are no longer valid (%) for 4.2.1-r3

The ebuild and the Changelog separately mention that these flags are now 
redundant as support is mandatory

 If so are they no long valid for kdelibs (in which case
 I leave them in make.conf) or are they completely
 deprecated flages (and hence I should removed them
 from make.conf)?

The former. Other stuff is likely to make use of plasma and webkit (they are 
fairly generic things)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kdelibs -plasma -webkit

2009-03-28 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 12:57 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:
 Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes:


  Great timing, because KDE 4.2.2 is being released on April 1st

 Are you really going to install software released on that day?


 ON a more pragmatic note, should I stay (delay upgrade) or
 should I go now (sync and update on april 2).


 I got this song ringing in my head about syncing and
 updates for kde 4. I feel euphoric about my chances
 of screwing up my kde 4 box.


 Looking for wisdom, here.

I'm using 4.2.2 and there's no noticeable difference I can tell from
4.2.1 ... the changelog is mostly of khtml and kmail stuff, neither of
which I use. 
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_2_1to4_2_2.php

My only big problem (Akregator nsplugin interface gets stuck using CPU
forever after flash is encountered) was not fixed in 4.2.2...



[gentoo-user] Re: kdelibs -plasma -webkit

2009-03-27 Thread ABCD
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James wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I kinda got my first kde 4.2.1 install working,
 as can best be describe as a random_walk.
 
 So I'm still getting it all straight in my head.
 
 Today upon a routine update to world, I noticed
 that kdelibs 4.2.1-r3 want to rebuild, minus
 the plasma and webkit flags:
 
 ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.1-r3  USE=3dnow 
 acl alsa bzip2 fam jpeg2k mmxnls opengl 
 semantic-desktop spell sse sse2 ssl 
 
 Not good methinks, but, I'm looking for somebody
 a little better versed in kde 4 to confirm
 that I should leave these flags.
 
 If so, my default (favorite place) for this
 is adding the flags to make.conf. After all
 I manage more than a dozen workstations
 and I try to have a much as possible the same
 on these machines.
 
 Or should I rebuild kdelibs without these
 flags?
 
 Sure I know what the flages do:
 
 plasma:
 Build optional plasma widgets that require kde-base/libplasma
 
 webkit:
 Enable bindings to QT Webkit
 enable WebKit support
 Use net-libs/webkit-gtk for rendering.
 Enable QT-WebKit rendering support
  Enable the webkit rendering engine
 Enables gtk WebKit support
  Use qt-webkit rendering engine for showing url thumbmails and for other 
 things
 that needs webbrowser intergration.
  Enable the webkit rendering engine for item rendering
 Use net-libs/webkit-gtk for rendering rather than net-libs/xulrunner
  Enable x11-libs/qt-webkit support, for more sophisticated online help display
 using webkit's HTML renderer.
 
 
 But I have too little wisdom with kde4 to discern
 best practices. My default goal is to use
 sets to have something smilarly to the meta
 stuff, but not using meta now, so customizing
 my onw sets, or following other Gentooers
 that want massive (all) kde applications 
 on many workstations, as to have one
 semantic to suppport, without meta.
 
 
 James

You almost certainly want +plasma, as in this case +plasma means build
the base libraries required for plasma, which means if you don't, the
desktop and panel won't work anymore.  I'm not sure about webkit, but
that would probably be another, if in doubt, enable.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kdelibs -plasma -webkit

2009-03-27 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 02:59:42PM -0400, ABCD wrote:
  
  But I have too little wisdom with kde4 to discern
  best practices. My default goal is to use
  sets to have something smilarly to the meta
  stuff, but not using meta now, so customizing
  my onw sets, or following other Gentooers
  that want massive (all) kde applications 
  on many workstations, as to have one
  semantic to suppport, without meta.
  
  
  James
 
 You almost certainly want +plasma, as in this case +plasma means build
 the base libraries required for plasma, which means if you don't, the
 desktop and panel won't work anymore.  I'm not sure about webkit, but
 that would probably be another, if in doubt, enable.
 
 
Emereging kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.1-r3 you don't have the USE plasma and
webkit anymore in the ebuild.

I haven't read the changlelog but I guess those USE are not optional
anymore but are now mandatory.

[ebuild   R   ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.1-r3  USE=alsa bzip2 fam mmx nls
opengl spell sse sse2 ssl -3dnow -acl (-altivec) -bindist -debug -doc
-jpeg2k -kdeprefix -kerberos -openexr -semantic-desktop -test -zeroconf
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[gentoo-user] Re: kdelibs -plasma -webkit

2009-03-27 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Neil Bothwick wrote:

On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 15:08:33 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote:


Great timing, because KDE 4.2.2 is being released on April 1st


Are you really going to install software released on that day? ;-)


Some of us leave in countries where it won't be 1st April when the 
release happens ;D