[gentoo-user] DPI is giving me a headache!
Hi All, I changed the monitor on a box that runs kdm/KDE and the fonts on KDE apps are giving me a headache from eye strain. This is particularly bad when working at a console (white letters on black background) and KDE text editors (with black letters on white background). Essentially, the antiailiasing seems to alter the consistency of fonts in an irregular manner causing them to blur (differently) across the screen, as if the monitor resolution is out of sync. The resolution in xorg.conf is set at 360 290 mm, but the DDC picks this up on its own anyway, whether I define it in xorg.conf, or not. I have no modeline set. All I can think that is amiss is the DPI. I seem to be getting a DPI of 90x89: $ xdpyinfo | grep resolution resolution:90x89 dots per inch Could this be the cause of my headache and how should I fix it? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] DPI is giving me a headache!
On Sonntag, 2. März 2008, Mick wrote: Hi All, I changed the monitor on a box that runs kdm/KDE and the fonts on KDE apps are giving me a headache from eye strain. This is particularly bad when working at a console (white letters on black background) and KDE text editors (with black letters on white background). Essentially, the antiailiasing seems to alter the consistency of fonts in an irregular manner causing them to blur (differently) across the screen, as if the monitor resolution is out of sync. The resolution in xorg.conf is set at 360 290 mm, but the DDC picks this up on its own anyway, whether I define it in xorg.conf, or not. I have no modeline set. All I can think that is amiss is the DPI. I seem to be getting a DPI of 90x89: $ xdpyinfo | grep resolution resolution:90x89 dots per inch Could this be the cause of my headache and how should I fix it? post your xorg.conf? drivers? increase font size? -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DPI is giving me a headache!
On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:02:40 +0100 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Essentially, the antiailiasing seems to alter the consistency of fonts in an irregular manner causing them to blur (differently) across the screen, as if the monitor resolution is out of sync. hmm, that reminds me of the appearance of the screen when you're running at a resolution that isn't native for the device. For example, if you run a 1280x1024 at widescreen, each 6th pixel or something is stretched to consist of 2 physical pixels to widen the screen out to fill the entire display. I hope that explination makes sense - clearly there are other, better ways to use widescreen in a case like this. i would make sure you're running in the screen's native resolution if it's an LCD, else make sure you're running at a resolution that fits the aspect ratio of your screen. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DPI is giving me a headache!
On Sunday 02 March 2008, Dan Farrell wrote: On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 14:02:40 +0100 Volker Armin Hemmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Essentially, the antiailiasing seems to alter the consistency of fonts in an irregular manner causing them to blur (differently) across the screen, as if the monitor resolution is out of sync. hmm, that reminds me of the appearance of the screen when you're running at a resolution that isn't native for the device. For example, if you run a 1280x1024 at widescreen, each 6th pixel or something is stretched to consist of 2 physical pixels to widen the screen out to fill the entire display. I hope that explination makes sense - clearly there are other, better ways to use widescreen in a case like this. i would make sure you're running in the screen's native resolution if it's an LCD, else make sure you're running at a resolution that fits the aspect ratio of your screen. Yep, that's pretty much what I think it is. Stretches and blurs along the width of the screen, every few pixels. I thought I *was* using the native resolution. Of course DDC may not be picking up the right dimensions in the first place. This is not a wide screen, just a 1280x1024 vanilla resolution. The monitor is a NEC MultiSync LCD 1860NX. Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 1280 x 1024, maximum 1280 x 1024 default connected 1280x1024+0+0 0mm x 0mm 1280x1024 60.0* 1024x768 60.0 800x60060.0 640x48060.0 832x62460.0 This is what the Internet tells me (because the manual is rubbish): Display Type: IPS TFT 46 cm (18.1 inch) Active Display Area: 360 x 290 mm Pixel Pitch: 0.281 mm Viewing Angle: 160° horizontal/160° vertical (at contrast ratio 10:1) Brightness:200 cd/m2 Contrast Ratio:350:1 Response Time: 30 ms (white to black 15 ms, black to white 15 ms) Number of Colours: 16.77 million Optimum Resolution:1280 x 1024 at 60 Hz (1.3 mega pixel) Other Resolutions: 1024 x 768; 832 x 624; 800 x 600; 640 x 400; 640 x 480; 720 x 400 Features/Adjust Functions: NTAA (Non-Touch-Auto-Adjustment); Auto adjust; Contrast; Brightness; Fine adjust (analog); OmniColor™: sRGB and 6 axis colour control; Colour temperature control; Monitor info; Language Select; Intelligent Power Management (VESA/EPA/NUTEK compliant); On-Screen Manager (OSM) lock out User Controls: On/Off; OSM menu; Interfaces Plug Play; Asset Management: VESA DDC2B; DDC2Bi; DDC/CI and EDID standard Horizontal Frequency: 31–82 kHz Vertical Frequency:55–85 Hz Dot Clock Rate:135 MHz -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] DPI is giving me a headache!
On Sun, 2 Mar 2008 18:10:58 + Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please find xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log attached. I am using the xorg radeon driver. The font size is just right, would not like to increase it. A few thoughts based on your xorg.conf. 1) you set HorizSync 64 #31 - 80 #digital VertRefresh 60 #55 - 85 #digital you shouldn't need either. You might want to remove them and try without. 2) your ATI device has quite a lot of settings. If you don't need them all, you might want to remove or comment out what you can. They might affect the output in unexpected ways, although I'm no ati expert. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] DPI is giving me a headache!
On Sonntag, 2. März 2008, Mick wrote: oh god. I hate this automatically generated xorg.confs. They are filled with rubbish. *sigh* hm, could you try without this? DisplaySize 360 290 #digital, oh wait, you said that doesn't change anything. Hm. You can set your DPI with the nvidia driver. But I am not convinced that it is X, the drivers or the monitors fault. The font antialising in linux is just bad ;) hm, oh, and try whatever Dan told you ;) Maybe enabling backingstore helps too. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
