[gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
I am trying to move my system over to modular X, but I'm having a few troubles. There are 4 packages that don't seem like they should be bringing in virtual/x11-6.8, but they are. Also, it's really confusing trying to figure out /why/ they are bringing in virtual-x11. emerge -pvt is giving confusing results; basically saying that virtual-x11 is coming in because of packages which don't even have an optional dependency on X. :( I tried using equery g, but that actually says the packages I'm trying to bring in /won't/ need virtual/x11-6.8. Anyway, I've got an emerge capture and the relevant equery output, I'd love it if someone could look at them and tell me what I need to do to complete the migration. I didn't want to post them to the list because they are about 38k... -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > I am trying to move my system over to modular X, but I'm having a few > troubles. There are 4 packages that don't seem like they should be > bringing in virtual/x11-6.8, but they are. You could try and look at the DEPEND/RDEPEND of those ebuild's too see if any have virtual-x11 as a dep. -- Naga -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
On Thursday 09 March 2006 07:49, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > Also, it's really confusing trying to figure out /why/ they are bringing in > virtual-x11. emerge -pvt is giving confusing results; basically saying > that virtual-x11 is coming in because of packages which don't even have an > optional dependency on X. :( I tried using equery g, but that actually > says the packages I'm trying to bring in /won't/ need virtual/x11-6.8. AFAICT equery detects compile time dependencies (DEPEND) and run time depencies (RDEPEND) but not post dependencies (PDEPEND). So I think you need to look for PDEPEND in the ebuilds manually. -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
have you check this tutorial: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg ? On 3/9/06, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 09 March 2006 07:49, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > Also, it's really confusing trying to figure out /why/ they are bringing in > > virtual-x11. emerge -pvt is giving confusing results; basically saying > > that virtual-x11 is coming in because of packages which don't even have an > > optional dependency on X. :( I tried using equery g, but that actually > > says the packages I'm trying to bring in /won't/ need virtual/x11-6.8. > > AFAICT equery detects compile time dependencies (DEPEND) and run time > depencies (RDEPEND) but not post dependencies (PDEPEND). So I think you need > to look for PDEPEND in the ebuilds manually. > > -- > Bo Andresen > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list > > -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
On Thursday 09 March 2006 01:53, Nagatoro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)': > Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > I am trying to move my system over to modular X, but I'm having a few > > troubles. There are 4 packages that don't seem like they should be > > bringing in virtual/x11-6.8, but they are. > > You could try and look at the DEPEND/RDEPEND of those ebuild's too see > if any have virtual-x11 as a dep. Shouldn't equery g do this? -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
On Thursday 09 March 2006 03:28, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)': > On Thursday 09 March 2006 07:49, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > emerge -pvt is giving confusing results; > > basically saying that virtual-x11 is coming in because of packages > > which don't even have an optional dependency on X. :( I tried using > > equery g, but that actually says the packages I'm trying to bring in > > /won't/ need virtual/x11-6.8. > > AFAICT equery detects compile time dependencies (DEPEND) and run time > depencies (RDEPEND) but not post dependencies (PDEPEND). So I think you > need to look for PDEPEND in the ebuilds manually. This, I did not know. I will look into it. -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
On Thursday 09 March 2006 14:28, "Cláudio Henrique" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)': > have you check this tutorial: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Modular_Xorg > ? No, I was working from the Official Gentoo documentation linked from a Gentoo Weekly Newletter a week or so back. I'll look though this document. Thanks. -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 19:31 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 09 March 2006 03:28, Bo Andresen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)': > > > > AFAICT equery detects compile time dependencies (DEPEND) and run time > > depencies (RDEPEND) but not post dependencies (PDEPEND). So I think you > > need to look for PDEPEND in the ebuilds manually. > > This, I did not know. I will look into it. equery in gentoolkit-0.2.2_pre3 (which was just released) does look at PDEPENDS. Regards, Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
On Thursday 09 March 2006 00:49, "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)': > I am trying to move my system over to modular X, but I'm having a few > troubles. There are 4 packages that don't seem like they should be > bringing in virtual/x11-6.8, but they are. A couple of days and a couple of syncs later and the problem is completely gone. NB: Gentoo developers >ROCK
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
On Saturday 11 March 2006 11:11, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Thursday 09 March 2006 00:49, "Boyd Stephen Smith Jr." > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about '[gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 > > (Modular X)': > > I am trying to move my system over to modular X, but I'm having a few > > troubles. There are 4 packages that don't seem like they should be > > bringing in virtual/x11-6.8, but they are. > > A couple of days and a couple of syncs later and the problem is completely > gone. NB: Gentoo developers >ROCK in virtual/x11-6.8. Now, to try and trim down my package.unmask a > little. :/ Hi, yesterday i did move to xorg-x11-7 , generally all seems Ok, just some observations: xorg.conf generated with 'X -configure' as root is bad if I'm change driver to fglrx, cant say yet what's wrong, xserver loads but monitor turns off without option get back to console. xorgconfigure generated conf file is Ok. and most annoying change is with KDE settings, some weird fonts i can fix. but new way that every new window starts in background doesnt suit me very much, can somebody point me where to fix it? martins -- Linux 2.6.15-ck5 AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3200+ 11:53:23 up 1:24, 3 users, load average: 0.11, 0.10, 0.39 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
On Saturday 11 March 2006 04:19, Martins Steinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)': > xorg.conf generated with 'X -configure' as root is bad if I'm change > driver to fglrx, cant say yet what's wrong, xserver loads but monitor > turns off without option get back to console. xorgconfigure generated > conf file is Ok. I use nvidia and had to recompile nvidia-glx, but after that my (hand-crafted) configuration works fine. > and most annoying change is with KDE settings, > new way that every new window starts in background doesnt suit > me very much, can somebody point me where to fix it? I noticed that as well, but I haven't figure out how to change it either. -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
Hi, On Sunday 12 March 2006 06:51, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Saturday 11 March 2006 04:19, Martins Steinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > about > > 'Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)': > > xorg.conf generated with 'X -configure' as root is bad if I'm change > > driver to fglrx, cant say yet what's wrong, xserver loads but monitor > > turns off without option get back to console. xorgconfigure generated > > conf file is Ok. > > I use nvidia and had to recompile nvidia-glx, but after that my > (hand-crafted) configuration works fine. > Same for me, binary nvidia drivers work with Xorg-7. > > and most annoying change is with KDE settings, > > new way that every new window starts in background doesnt suit > > me very much, can somebody point me where to fix it? > > I noticed that as well, but I haven't figure out how to change it either. > > -- > "If there's one thing we've established over the years, > it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest > clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." > -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh Another thing (issue) is with virtual/x11. Had to put "virtual/x11-6.8" in package.provided to be able to emerge again. Rumen pgpT16DVy5P0b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
On Sunday 12 March 2006 01:45, Rumen Yotov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)': > Another thing (issue) is with virtual/x11. > Had to put "virtual/x11-6.8" in package.provided to be able to emerge > again. Rumen That's a work around for the transitional period while not all the ebuild support xorg 7. However, I haven't need to use this work around yet, and I have /plently/ of applications installed that require X, albeit applications a lot of users will have installed. -- "If there's one thing we've established over the years, it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest clue what's best for them in terms of package stability." -- Gentoo Developer Ciaran McCreesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Moving to xorg-x11-7.0 (Modular X)
On Sunday 12 March 2006 06:51, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Saturday 11 March 2006 04:19, Martins Steinbergs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > about > > > and most annoying change is with KDE settings, > > new way that every new window starts in background doesnt suit > > me very much, can somebody point me where to fix it? > > I noticed that as well, but I haven't figure out how to change it either. tried to tweak settings and finaly created new user account with no luck. now i'm updating qt3 which i missed to update due to update bring in qt4, and kdebase. if this will help ill let you know. little upset that after xorg migration i lost my mouse theme and dont recall its name, those were some simple red pointers. oh, just came idea to rebuild gtk too. martins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
