Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Okay, here's where I've isolated the problem to. This might be a rather lengthy explanation, so make sure you have about 15 minutes on your hands before diving in. However, the explanation shouldn't take long - I've never actually compiled/installed/used a kernel before. Okay, enough apologising in advance: down to business. I know that it correctly compiles the kernel. I put a new name for the new kernel (test1) to try and ID it as it floats about all the other kernels I'm too scared to delete. # make install Sticks it into /boot. /boot now reads System.mapconfig.old System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 grub System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old lost+found System.map.oldvmlinuz boot vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 configvmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 vmlinuz.old config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old Not terribly exciting. However, I went to /boot/grub/menu.lst and it reads as such: localhost boot # cat ./grub/menu.lst default 0 timeout 7 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title=Gentoo Linux root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 The most concerning part is the last three lines. For any kernel, it appears to demand the kernel itself. If you'll refer back to # ls /boot then you'll notice that kernel-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 isn't there. Nor is the initrd. I don't know where they might be, or if they're not there then how to generate them. If I can find out those two things then I should be able to test my new kernel and see if it actually worked. On 3/28/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:51:11 +0200, Bo Andresen wrote: Sorry, what does YMMV mean? Those are the resources that I use for that kind of questions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YMMV http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ymmv You can also emerge wtf. I assume wtf will tell me what wtf stands for... is the last letter representative of a forbidden word, by any chance? $ wtf ymmv YMMV: your mileage may vary -- Neil Bothwick Interchangeable parts aren't. What was your first clue? -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Lord Sauron schreef: Okay, here's where I've isolated the problem to. snip . I know that it correctly compiles the kernel. I put a new name for the new kernel (test1) to try and ID it snip # make install Sticks it into /boot. /boot now reads System.mapconfig.old System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 grub System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old lost+found System.map.oldvmlinuz boot vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 configvmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 v mlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 vmlinuz.old config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old Not terribly exciting. However, I went to /boot/grub/menu.lst and it reads as such: localhost boot # cat ./grub/menu.lst default 0 timeout 7 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title=Gentoo Linux root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 The most concerning part is the last three lines. For any kernel, it appears to demand the kernel itself. If you'll refer back to # ls /boot then you'll notice that kernel-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 isn't there. Yes it is: vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 Nor is the initrd. I don't know where they might be, or if they're not there then how to generate them. No, the initrd isn't there; you apparently made your previous kernel with genkernel, which creates an initrd, and you further do not have splashutils installed (which would/can also make an initrd to contain the bootsplash images). Manual kernel installation using 'make install' copies the bzImage (the kernel itself) to /boot/, and names it vmlinuz-kernel.version-extra_version_if_used. Make install also copies the helpful but not strictly necessary .config and system.map files to /boot/ adding the version to the end to distinguish it from other supplemental files for other kernels, and creates two symlinks to the current and newly-installed kernel: vmlinuz -- links to the newly installed kernel vmlinuz.old -- links to the current kernel that the newly-installed kernel is replacing. Similar symlinks are also created for the .config and system.map files for the respective kernels. What this means is that you can just tell grub that the first item on the list should load 'vmlinuz' (which is going to be a link to the most recently installed kernel), and the second entry should load vmlinuz.old (which is a link to the previous kernel to the most newly installed, in case of problems). If you have even more old kernels, they can always be listed by the full kernel version. In any case, it seems to me that you basically need to create a new entry for the test kernel; just copy the current entry, paste it above the other one, then delete the following relevant portions: 1. Change 'kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0' to read kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 (not sure about the 'root= part; /dev/ram0 seems a bit weird to me but perhaps this is in some way functional for your particular setup. I have no experience with genkernel, which this setting looks like to me, but maybe somebody can confirm that. If it is from genkernel, root= should be the partition of the root filesystem, on my system, this setting is root=/dev/hda5) 2. delete everything else, apparently. I can see that most of the entry is generated by/related to genkernel. Here, for reference is my grub entry for my manually compiled kernels (never used genkernel, as I said): # grub.conf generated by anaconda # # Note that you do not have to rerun grub after making changes to this file # NOTICE: You have a /boot partition. This means that # all kernel and initrd paths are relative to /boot/, eg. # root (hd0,1) # kernel /vmlinuz-version ro root=/dev/hda5 # initrd /initrd-version.img #boot=/dev/hda default=0 timeout=10 splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/grub-livecd2.xpm.gz title Gentoo_current (2.6.15-gentoo-r7mga) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz ro quiet root=/dev/hda5 video=matroxfb:vesa:0x11B,depth:32 splash=silent,theme:livecd-2005.1 CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 title Gentoo_prev (2.6.15-gentoo-r7) root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz.old ro root=/dev/hda5 video=matroxfb:vesa:0x11B:ywrap,pmipal,mtrr:3,[EMAIL PROTECTED] splash=verbose,theme:emergence quiet CONSOLE=/dev/tty1 title Failsafe_current root (hd0,1) kernel /vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hda5 video=vesafb:ywrap,pmipal,mtrr:3,[EMAIL PROTECTED] emergency If you ignore all the video= settings, as you should, since they are
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On Wednesday 29 March 2006 21:58, Lord Sauron wrote:
Okay, here's where I've isolated the problem to. This might be a
rather lengthy explanation, so make sure you have about 15 minutes on
your hands before diving in. However, the explanation shouldn't take
long - I've never actually compiled/installed/used a kernel before.
Okay, enough apologising in advance: down to business.
I know that it correctly compiles the kernel. I put a new name for
the new kernel (test1) to try and ID it as it floats about all the
other kernels I'm too scared to delete.
# make install
Sticks it into /boot. /boot now reads
System.mapconfig.old
System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 grub
System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old
initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1
kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5
System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old lost+found
System.map.oldvmlinuz
boot vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1
configvmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old
config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1
config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old
config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 vmlinuz.old
config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old
Not terribly exciting. However, I went to /boot/grub/menu.lst and it
reads as such:
localhost boot # cat ./grub/menu.lst
default 0
timeout 7
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0
init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3
initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5
The most concerning part is the last three lines. For any kernel, it
appears to demand the kernel itself. If you'll refer back to # ls
/boot then you'll notice that kernel-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 isn't
there.
Sure it is. It's vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 and make install even made a
symlink to it: vmlinuz.
If you type ls -l /boot/vmlinuz it should give something that end on:
/boot/vmlinuz - vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1
Nor is the initrd.
If you don't use genkernel you don't actually need an initrd. If you want one
you have to enable it. I can't tell you how since I don't use it myself.
I don't know where they might be, or if
they're not there then how to generate them.
Try adding the following to /boot/grub/menu.lst:
title Gentoo Linux test1
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3
This will create a new menu item in Grub during start up. If you want this
kernel to be selected by default you either add above the genkernel menu item
shown above or change the default to 1. After default you can add a fallback
line and set it to another kernel than the default.
This is a part of my menu.lst:
# Boot automatically after 30 secs.
timeout 5
# By default, boot the first entry.
default 0
# Fallback to the second entry.
fallback 1
# Reboot 5 seconds after a kernel panic
panic=5
# Nice splash image for grub :)
splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 video=vesafb-tng:[EMAIL PROTECTED],mtrr,ywrap
splash=silent,theme:livecd-2006.0 quiet
CONSOLE=/dev/tty1
initrd /fbsplash-livecd-2006.0-1400x1050
title Gentoo Linux (Old)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda6 video=vesafb-tng:[EMAIL PROTECTED],mtrr,ywrap
splash=verbose,theme:livecd-2006.0 quiet
CONSOLE=/dev/tty1
initrd /boot/fbsplash-livecd-2006.0-1024x768
The indented lines are on the end of the kernel line above them. My initrd's
are create by splashutils and have nothing to do with compiling the kernel.
If they are removed it boots just as well just without the livecd-2006 theme.
If I can find out those two things then I should be able to test my
new kernel and see if it actually worked.
On 3/28/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:51:11 +0200, Bo Andresen wrote:
Sorry, what does YMMV mean?
Those are the resources that I use for that kind of questions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YMMV
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ymmv
You can also emerge wtf.
I assume wtf will tell me what wtf stands for... is the last letter
representative of a forbidden word, by any chance?
Of course ;) :
$ wtf wtf
WTF: {what,when,where,who,why} the fuck
$ wtf ymmv
YMMV: your mileage may vary
Yeah, it's just that the wiki and sometimes the urban dictionary are often
more detailed. :)
--
Bo Andresen
--
gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/29/06, Bo Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 29 March 2006 21:58, Lord Sauron wrote:
Okay, here's where I've isolated the problem to. This might be a
rather lengthy explanation, so make sure you have about 15 minutes on
your hands before diving in. However, the explanation shouldn't take
long - I've never actually compiled/installed/used a kernel before.
Okay, enough apologising in advance: down to business.
I know that it correctly compiles the kernel. I put a new name for
the new kernel (test1) to try and ID it as it floats about all the
other kernels I'm too scared to delete.
# make install
Sticks it into /boot. /boot now reads
System.mapconfig.old
System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 grub
System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old
initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1
kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5
System.map-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old lost+found
System.map.oldvmlinuz
boot vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1
configvmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old
config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1
config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1.old vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old
config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 vmlinuz.old
config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1.old
Not terribly exciting. However, I went to /boot/grub/menu.lst and it
reads as such:
localhost boot # cat ./grub/menu.lst
default 0
timeout 7
splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title=Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,0)
kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0
init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3
initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5
The most concerning part is the last three lines. For any kernel, it
appears to demand the kernel itself. If you'll refer back to # ls
/boot then you'll notice that kernel-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 isn't
there.
Sure it is. It's vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1 and make install even made a
symlink to it: vmlinuz.
So that's what it's all about... Okay, that makes sense now.
If you type ls -l /boot/vmlinuz it should give something that end on:
/boot/vmlinuz - vmlinuz-2.6.15-gentoo-r1test1
Nor is the initrd.
If you don't use genkernel you don't actually need an initrd. If you want one
you have to enable it. I can't tell you how since I don't use it myself.
Okay. So there are two ways of making kernels, and one of them is
with Genkernel and I'm not using that so I don't need to worry, right?
I don't know where they might be, or if
they're not there then how to generate them.
Try adding the following to /boot/grub/menu.lst:
title Gentoo Linux test1
root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3
This will create a new menu item in Grub during start up. If you want this
kernel to be selected by default you either add above the genkernel menu item
shown above or change the default to 1. After default you can add a fallback
line and set it to another kernel than the default.
This is a part of my menu.lst:
# Boot automatically after 30 secs.
timeout 5
# By default, boot the first entry.
default 0
# Fallback to the second entry.
fallback 1
# Reboot 5 seconds after a kernel panic
panic=5
# Nice splash image for grub :)
splashimage=(hd0,1)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
title Gentoo Linux
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda6 video=vesafb-tng:[EMAIL PROTECTED],mtrr,ywrap
splash=silent,theme:livecd-2006.0 quiet
CONSOLE=/dev/tty1
initrd /fbsplash-livecd-2006.0-1400x1050
title Gentoo Linux (Old)
root (hd0,1)
kernel /vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda6 video=vesafb-tng:[EMAIL
PROTECTED],mtrr,ywrap
splash=verbose,theme:livecd-2006.0 quiet
CONSOLE=/dev/tty1
initrd /boot/fbsplash-livecd-2006.0-1024x768
The indented lines are on the end of the kernel line above them. My initrd's
are create by splashutils and have nothing to do with compiling the kernel.
If they are removed it boots just as well just without the livecd-2006 theme.
If I can find out those two things then I should be able to test my
new kernel and see if it actually worked.
On 3/28/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:51:11 +0200, Bo Andresen wrote:
Sorry, what does YMMV mean?
Those are the resources that I use for that kind of questions:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YMMV
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ymmv
You can also emerge wtf.
I assume wtf will tell me what wtf stands for... is the last letter
representative of a forbidden word, by any chance?
Of course ;) :
$ wtf wtf
WTF: {what,when,where,who,why} the fuck
$ wtf ymmv
YMMV: your mileage
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
SOLVED!!! I did as you suggested. localhost ~ # cat /boot/grub/menu.lst default 0 timeout 7 splashimage=(hd0,0)/grub/splash.xpm.gz title Current Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda3 title Old Kernel root (hd0,0) kernel /vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda3 title Failsafe root (hd0,0) kernel /kernel-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 root=/dev/ram0 init=/linuxrc ramdisk=8192 real_root=/dev/hda3 initrd /initramfs-genkernel-x86-2.6.15-gentoo-r5 is now what I use. Later I hope to reinsert my Live CD and get the pretty stuff off of it to beautify my Gentoo. ACPI now works perfectly. There was a small glitch in which I discovered that my newly built kernel did *not* have my networking card installed, so I had to recompile with that enabled but after this it was no sweat. Thanks for your help - I would have gotten as far as Kubuntu if you hadn't helped me (as in I would be back with Kubuntu). However, even before beautification I have to figure out how to mount my USB memory stick (/dev/sda1), however, that's for another thread. Thanks for your help - I hope to be able to make it up to you all someday : ) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Lord Sauron wrote: Okay. So there are two ways of making kernels, and one of them is with Genkernel and I'm not using that so I don't need to worry, right? Just like most things in Linux, there are several ways to do it. Yours isn't the way I do it but if it works for ya, go for it. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On Thursday 30 March 2006 02:53, Lord Sauron wrote: Later I hope to reinsert my Live CD and get the pretty stuff off of it to beautify my Gentoo. For what kind of beautifying do you need the Live CD? If you are referring to the splash theme that it uses then it is in portage. http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash However, even before beautification I have to figure out how to mount my USB memory stick (/dev/sda1), however, that's for another thread. What you want is CONFIG_USB_STORAGE in the kernel configuration. The following is from make menuconfig: Symbol: USB_STORAGE [=m] Prompt: USB Mass Storage support Defined at drivers/usb/storage/Kconfig:9 Depends on: USB Location: - Device Drivers - USB support -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 04:51, Lord Sauron wrote: I'm currently running 2.6.15-r8 of suspend2_sources, so if you're using a different kernel YMMV. Sorry, what does YMMV mean? Those are the resources that I use for that kind of questions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YMMV http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ymmv -- Bo Andresen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:51:11 +0200, Bo Andresen wrote: Sorry, what does YMMV mean? Those are the resources that I use for that kind of questions: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YMMV http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ymmv You can also emerge wtf. $ wtf ymmv YMMV: your mileage may vary -- Neil Bothwick Interchangeable parts aren't. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Lord Sauron wrote: On 3/26/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this set to be compiled into the kernel. Should that present any problems? Most things do not matter. You can do either way. There are some things that I have seen that must be modules and some things, like file systems, that must be compiled in. Example on the last one, I use reiserfs for my files system including root. If I have reiserfs as a module, the kernel will not be able to read my root partition to boot up. For that reason, I have to compile it in so it can read the root partition. IF I had say a data partition that used XFS, I could make that a module if I wanted to. The system will boot up and then load all the modules so it can read the other file systems. One reason some use modules is that you can update them or do bug fixes without rebooting. You just unload the module, update it, then reload it again. This is usually something that folks like me and you do not have to worry about though. │ │* Button │ │ │ │ Video │ │ │ │ Generic Hotkey (EXPERIMENTAL) │ │ │ │ Fan │ │ │ │ Processor │ │ │ │ ASUS/Medion Laptop Extras │ │ │ │ IBM ThinkPad Laptop Extras │ │ I had this enabled (compiled into kernel) since I do own a IBM X40. │ │ Toshiba Laptop Extras │ │ │ │(0) Disable ACPI for systems before Jan 1st this year (NEW) │ │ What on earth is this? I read the descriptor, but it didn't help me much... From what I have read, some systems do not support ACPI at all. They will not work, or maybe they blow up or something. I assume that there is some way for it to know when it was made and it will disable it if it is before that date. I'm not really sure either. As it says up at the top, you can press y to compile it in, press m to have it as a module or press n to leave it out. You can also swith through them with the space bar. There are a lot of gurus here that may disagree with this, but I have no modules for my kernel unless I have to have it for some reason. I did have modules for my temp sensors but that was so I could reset it without rebooting. I'm sure someone will come in with 100 reasons to have modules and some others will have reasons not too. I say do it like you need to and whatever makes you and the system happy. I'm just going to try compiling stuff into the kernel first, before I try and tinker. Save that info, you may need it. The first kernel I made would boot up but some things, USB and a couple other things didn't work, so I made a new one. The new one wouldn't work at all. Something I changed didn't work right at all. Since I saved the old one, I just rebooted and used it. Otherwise, I would have had to boot the CD and chrooted in to fix it. That's a good tip to keep in mind. When you make a new kernel, don't remove the old one. Since it does boot up, you can use it to fall back on in case your new one fails for some reason. Just give it a different name from the old one when you copy it over. I do mine names like this: So, I should rename one of my kernels and try and see which one is which? Or am I still off the mark? It didn't look like it compiled the kernel... I think it should have taken longer, but it didn't. I may be missing a step. : / Most likely the first one is named bzImage and that is fine. Just name you new one something different. You can name it bzImage-1 if you want. I put the kernel version on the end so I know what version it is. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /boot/bzI* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2196613 Sep 18 2005 /boot/bzImage-gen-2.6.12-1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2224482 Dec 20 20:31 /boot/bzImage-gen-2.6.14-4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2225130 Dec 27 04:50 /boot/bzImage-gen-2.6.14-5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I currently have three kernels that I can boot if one of them gets corrupted or something. The last digit is like a version number for me. If you can't boot the old one, you can hit e twice when grub comes up and then use the arrow keys to edit which kernel you want to boot. It can save you a lot of headaches too. After you edit that, you just hit return and then hit the b key to boot it up. If it gives you a grub error, just hit the escape (Esc) key to go back and try again. Just a question: if the support is made to be as a module (M, instead of *) does that mean that you have to add something like doacpi to the boot parameters? That means you have to add it to the /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 file for it to load the module when it boots. This is what my file looks like: nvidia hwmon_vid i2c_isa w83627hf I guess I do still have my sensors as modules. Anyway, nvidia has to be a module. You will see them when they load up. Hope this helps. I'm about to take some meds and may not be around for a while. Plenty of others here to help though. Ah, you take crazy-pills too. I've already taken mine, so I'm a couple minutes away from sleep.
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/27/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lord Sauron wrote: On 3/26/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this set to be compiled into the kernel. Should that present any problems? Most things do not matter. You can do either way. There are some things that I have seen that must be modules and some things, like file systems, that must be compiled in. Example on the last one, I use reiserfs for my files system including root. If I have reiserfs as a module, the kernel will not be able to read my root partition to boot up. For that reason, I have to compile it in so it can read the root partition. IF I had say a data partition that used XFS, I could make that a module if I wanted to. The system will boot up and then load all the modules so it can read the other file systems. Clever. One reason some use modules is that you can update them or do bug fixes without rebooting. You just unload the module, update it, then reload it again. This is usually something that folks like me and you do not have to worry about though. Extremely clever. I'll have to remeber cool tricks like that when I'm working with my own server... │ │* Button │ │ │ │ Video │ │ │ │ Generic Hotkey (EXPERIMENTAL) │ │ │ │ Fan │ │ │ │ Processor │ │ │ │ ASUS/Medion Laptop Extras │ │ │ │ IBM ThinkPad Laptop Extras │ │ I had this enabled (compiled into kernel) since I do own a IBM X40. │ │ Toshiba Laptop Extras │ │ │ │(0) Disable ACPI for systems before Jan 1st this year (NEW) │ │ What on earth is this? I read the descriptor, but it didn't help me much... From what I have read, some systems do not support ACPI at all. They will not work, or maybe they blow up or something. I assume that there is some way for it to know when it was made and it will disable it if it is before that date. I'm not really sure either. Oh... that makes sense. As it says up at the top, you can press y to compile it in, press m to have it as a module or press n to leave it out. You can also swith through them with the space bar. There are a lot of gurus here that may disagree with this, but I have no modules for my kernel unless I have to have it for some reason. I did have modules for my temp sensors but that was so I could reset it without rebooting. I'm sure someone will come in with 100 reasons to have modules and some others will have reasons not too. I say do it like you need to and whatever makes you and the system happy. I'm just going to try compiling stuff into the kernel first, before I try and tinker. Save that info, you may need it. The first kernel I made would boot up but some things, USB and a couple other things didn't work, so I made a new one. The new one wouldn't work at all. Something I changed didn't work right at all. Since I saved the old one, I just rebooted and used it. Otherwise, I would have had to boot the CD and chrooted in to fix it. That's a good tip to keep in mind. I'm actually not certain that I have the kernel built and installed. I tried the make install command, but I'm still not certain that I've done this all correctly. At this rate, I may try and re-install KDE and stuff to see if it's no longer a problem with the kernel. Is there a way to see what's currently compiled in or modules enabled/loaded in the kernel that currently running? If there is, then I could very quickly diagnose where the disconnect is. When you make a new kernel, don't remove the old one. Since it does boot up, you can use it to fall back on in case your new one fails for some reason. Just give it a different name from the old one when you copy it over. I do mine names like this: So, I should rename one of my kernels and try and see which one is which? Or am I still off the mark? It didn't look like it compiled the kernel... I think it should have taken longer, but it didn't. I may be missing a step. : / Most likely the first one is named bzImage and that is fine. Just name you new one something different. You can name it bzImage-1 if you want. I put the kernel version on the end so I know what version it is. Yeah, but I've been using the make install command, so I'm not totally sure if what I'm doing is even effective. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /boot/bzI* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2196613 Sep 18 2005 /boot/bzImage-gen-2.6.12-1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2224482 Dec 20 20:31 /boot/bzImage-gen-2.6.14-4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2225130 Dec 27 04:50 /boot/bzImage-gen-2.6.14-5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I currently have three kernels that I can boot if one of them gets corrupted or something. The last digit is like a version number for me. If you can't boot the old one, you can hit e twice when grub comes up and then use the arrow keys to edit which kernel you want to boot. It can save you a lot of headaches too. After you edit that, you just hit return and then hit the
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Hey, I found something interesting... /boot/config # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # Linux kernel version: 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 # Sun Mar 26 17:30:03 2006 # large snip of non-ACPI stuff, mainly architecture flags. # # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support # CONFIG_ACPI=y CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=y # CONFIG_ACPI_HOTKEY is not set CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y # CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set CONFIG_ACPI_IBM=y # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0 # CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y # CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER is not set # CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER is not set /boot/config-2.6.15-gentoo-r1 # # Automatically generated make config: don't edit # Linux kernel version: 2.6.15-gentoo-r1 # Sun Mar 26 17:30:03 2006 # another snip of mainly the same content # # Power management options (ACPI, APM) # CONFIG_PM=y CONFIG_PM_LEGACY=y # CONFIG_PM_DEBUG is not set # # ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support # CONFIG_ACPI=y CONFIG_ACPI_AC=y CONFIG_ACPI_BATTERY=y CONFIG_ACPI_BUTTON=y CONFIG_ACPI_VIDEO=y # CONFIG_ACPI_HOTKEY is not set CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y CONFIG_ACPI_PROCESSOR=y CONFIG_ACPI_THERMAL=y # CONFIG_ACPI_ASUS is not set CONFIG_ACPI_IBM=y # CONFIG_ACPI_TOSHIBA is not set CONFIG_ACPI_BLACKLIST_YEAR=0 # CONFIG_ACPI_DEBUG is not set CONFIG_ACPI_EC=y CONFIG_ACPI_POWER=y CONFIG_ACPI_SYSTEM=y # CONFIG_X86_PM_TIMER is not set # CONFIG_ACPI_CONTAINER is not set My best guess now is that the line # CONFIG_ACIP_HOTKEY is not set is causing my problems. What do you think? I also think that this more or less confirms that the kernel is getting compiled, and it is working... but now it's a problem with KDE. I'll try opening Gnome in a xnest window and seeing if my battery monitor works then. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Devon Miller wrote: Just to throw my 2 cents in... I always set CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y unless I'm building for a memory constrained system. This stores the config file in the kernel image and makes it available as /proc/config.gz. That way, when I get it working, I know what I did. I'm currently running 2.6.15-r8 of suspend2_sources, so if you're using a different kernel YMMV. Also, you can tell when the running kernel was built looking in /proc/version for the date stamp. dcm I use the config.gz too. You can actually boot up and untar that thing and copy it over to a kernel directory and use it. That's good if you royally screw up your config and need to step back a bit, or maybe a lot. ;-) I'm not guru by any means, I just read a lot and sometimes my light bulb will go off and it makes sense. If the bulb doesn't go off, stick a fork in me, I'm done. LOL Dale :-) P.S. Supper time. Meds make me hungry. stuffs mouth -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Lord Sauron wrote: On 3/27/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Extremely clever. I'll have to remeber cool tricks like that when I'm working with my own server... You can never know to much. That's for sure. I know I haven't had that trouble yet on my end. o_O Yeah, but I've been using the make install command, so I'm not totally sure if what I'm doing is even effective. I always copy mine by hand. That way I know it is there and what it is named. Make SURE to mount /boot before you copy that. If you installed as the manual says, /boot is not auto mounted at boot up. mount /boot should work. That means you have to add it to the /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 file for it to load the module when it boots. This is what my file looks like: So I'd add something like acpi ? Linux Kernel v2.6.14-gentoo-r5 Configuration ┌─ IBM ThinkPad Laptop Extras ──┐ │ CONFIG_ACPI_IBM: │ │ │ │ This is a Linux ACPI driver for the IBM ThinkPad laptops. It adds │ │ support for Fn-Fx key combinations, Bluetooth control, video │ │ output switching, ThinkLight control, UltraBay eject and more.│ │ For more information about this driver see file:Documentation/ibm-acpi.txt │ │ and http://ibm-acpi.sf.net/ . │ │ │ │ If you have an IBM ThinkPad laptop, say Y or M here. │ │ │ │ Symbol: ACPI_IBM [=y] │ │ Prompt: IBM ThinkPad Laptop Extras│ │ Defined at drivers/acpi/Kconfig:197 │ │ Depends on: !X86_VOYAGER !X86_VISWS !IA64_HP_SIM (IA64 || X86) │ │ Location: │ │ - Power management options (ACPI, APM) │ │ - ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support│ │ - ACPI Support (ACPI [=y]) │ That is the help screen. I THINK the module will be called ACPI_IBM. Someone correct me if I am wrong though. I think you take off the CONFIG_ part. It may also need to be lowercase. Keep in mind that case does matter in Linux. Let someone chime in on that one though. I guess I do still have my sensors as modules. Anyway, nvidia has to be a module. You will see them when they load up. Yeah, nVidia supplies proprietary closed-source drivers, don't they? Yes they do. They do work pretty good though. At least they try. Some video card people don't even do that. Later Dale :-) :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/27/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Devon Miller wrote: Just to throw my 2 cents in... I always set CONFIG_IKCONFIG=y CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y unless I'm building for a memory constrained system. This stores the config file in the kernel image and makes it available as /proc/config.gz. That way, when I get it working, I know what I did. I'm currently running 2.6.15-r8 of suspend2_sources, so if you're using a different kernel YMMV. Sorry, what does YMMV mean? Also, you can tell when the running kernel was built looking in /proc/version for the date stamp. Ah... I'll do that right away! dcm Once more, what does that mean? Oh... Devon C. Miller... dcm... hah, I geddit. I use the config.gz too. You can actually boot up and untar that thing and copy it over to a kernel directory and use it. That's good if you royally screw up your config and need to step back a bit, or maybe a lot. ;-) I'm not guru by any means, I just read a lot and sometimes my light bulb will go off and it makes sense. If the bulb doesn't go off, stick a fork in me, I'm done. about the same here. Some thing I can help with, most things I can't. P.S. Supper time. Meds make me hungry. stuffs mouth So that's where all my cookies went... oh wait... I ate 'em : ) -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/27/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lord Sauron wrote: On 3/27/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Extremely clever. I'll have to remeber cool tricks like that when I'm working with my own server... You can never know to much. That's for sure. I know I haven't had that trouble yet on my end. o_O I haven't had any troubles with that either yet. Then again... I'm nowhere near where anyone could possibly or conceivably have a problem with it. Yeah, but I've been using the make install command, so I'm not totally sure if what I'm doing is even effective. I always copy mine by hand. That way I know it is there and what it is named. Make SURE to mount /boot before you copy that. If you installed as the manual says, /boot is not auto mounted at boot up. mount /boot should work. That means you have to add it to the /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 file for it to load the module when it boots. This is what my file looks like: So I'd add something like acpi ? Linux Kernel v2.6.14-gentoo-r5 Configuration ┌─ IBM ThinkPad Laptop Extras ──┐ │ CONFIG_ACPI_IBM: │ │ │ │ This is a Linux ACPI driver for the IBM ThinkPad laptops. It adds │ │ support for Fn-Fx key combinations, Bluetooth control, video │ │ output switching, ThinkLight control, UltraBay eject and more.│ │ For more information about this driver see file:Documentation/ibm-acpi.txt │ │ and http://ibm-acpi.sf.net/ . │ │ │ │ If you have an IBM ThinkPad laptop, say Y or M here. │ │ │ │ Symbol: ACPI_IBM [=y] │ │ Prompt: IBM ThinkPad Laptop Extras│ │ Defined at drivers/acpi/Kconfig:197 │ │ Depends on: !X86_VOYAGER !X86_VISWS !IA64_HP_SIM (IA64 || X86) │ │ Location: │ │ - Power management options (ACPI, APM) │ │ - ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support│ │ - ACPI Support (ACPI [=y]) │ That is the help screen. I THINK the module will be called ACPI_IBM. Someone correct me if I am wrong though. I think you take off the CONFIG_ part. It may also need to be lowercase. Keep in mind that case does matter in Linux. Let someone chime in on that one though. I guess I do still have my sensors as modules. Anyway, nvidia has to be a module. You will see them when they load up. Yeah, nVidia supplies proprietary closed-source drivers, don't they? Yes they do. They do work pretty good though. At least they try. Some video card people don't even do that. Wish they'd make better drivers for OS X though... none of my OS X buddies ever use nVidia cards (which are better - if you wanna argue you can talk to my GeForce 6800 anytime) because the OS X drivers make them about as good as a ATI card. Oh well... can't win 'em all I guess. -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Okay, yet another update. I found that these packages were not installed: ibm-acpi acpi (though acpid was installed) I emerged them and then recompiled the kernel. However, I'm really beginning to get suspicious... I really think that a kernel recompile would take longer. Would you say about 45 seconds is right for a 1.0GHz Pentium-M with 256Megs of PC2700 SO-DIMM RAM? (200-pin, of course) I'm going to go recheck a few things now. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Lord Sauron wrote: Would you say about 45 seconds is right for a 1.0GHz Pentium-M with 256Megs of PC2700 SO-DIMM RAM? (200-pin, of course) Sounds about right. You aren't recompiling the WHOLE kernel everytime. Just whatever changes. -Jeremy I'm going to go recheck a few things now. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Jeremy Olexa wrote: Lord Sauron wrote: Would you say about 45 seconds is right for a 1.0GHz Pentium-M with 256Megs of PC2700 SO-DIMM RAM? (200-pin, of course) Sounds about right. You aren't recompiling the WHOLE kernel everytime. Just whatever changes. -Jeremy I'm going to go recheck a few things now. Yea, it just makes changes after the first time. When I get a new one I always do a make mrproper which cleans out some cruft left over from the devs, or whoever has them before me. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/27/06, Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lord Sauron wrote: Would you say about 45 seconds is right for a 1.0GHz Pentium-M with 256Megs of PC2700 SO-DIMM RAM? (200-pin, of course) Sounds about right. You aren't recompiling the WHOLE kernel everytime. Just whatever changes. BRILLIANT!!! I keep on being impressed by this Open Source stuff. It's gonna take MS so darn long to kill Linux... they might be able to do it in another couple mellenia. -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
home directory is ~. Get used to writing ~ for the home directory, so that your scripts/apps/whatever are plug n play for all users. Gabio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/26/06, Gabriel Dain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: home directory is ~. Get used to writing ~ for the home directory, so that your scripts/apps/whatever are plug n play for all users. Yeah, it's just that I normally use my non-root account lsauron, however, I sometimes will open a Xnest window and come in as root for this or that, so I want to ensure that the same things work for both user accounts. I think that by now I'm down to just how to compile and update my kernel with the ACPI stuff enabled. I don't think that the last time I tried that it worked, because it still tells me (KDE's Control Centre) that ACPI support is not compiled into the kernel and that I need to recompile with that stuff in the kernel. -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Are you sure you compiled it as embbeded, and not module? (* or M in menuconfig). If it is M, you'll have to load the module, and add it to the list of modules that are loaded at startup. -- Gabriel Dain -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/26/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel Dain wrote: Are you sure you compiled it as embbeded, and not module? (* or M in menuconfig). If it is M, you'll have to load the module, and add it to the list of modules that are loaded at startup. -- Gabriel Dain I'll take some time to clarify this more. This is a copy and paste of my kernel config for the ACPI stuff. Linux Kernel v2.6.14-gentoo-r5 Configuration ┌── ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) Support ──┐ │ Arrow keys navigate the menu. Enter selects submenus ---. Highlighted │ │ letters are hotkeys. Pressing Y includes, N excludes, M modularizes │ │ features. Press EscEsc to exit, ? for Help, / for Search. Legend: │ │ [*] built-in [ ] excluded M module module capable │ │ ┌───┐ │ │ │[*] ACPI Support │ │ Yes, that is the same as my config. │ │[ ] Sleep States │ │ │ │ AC Adapter │ │ │ │M Battery │ │ I had this set to be compiled into the kernel. Should that present any problems? │ │* Button │ │ │ │ Video │ │ │ │ Generic Hotkey (EXPERIMENTAL) │ │ │ │ Fan │ │ │ │ Processor │ │ │ │ ASUS/Medion Laptop Extras │ │ │ │ IBM ThinkPad Laptop Extras │ │ I had this enabled (compiled into kernel) since I do own a IBM X40. │ │ Toshiba Laptop Extras │ │ │ │(0) Disable ACPI for systems before Jan 1st this year (NEW) │ │ What on earth is this? I read the descriptor, but it didn't help me much... │ │[ ] Debug Statements (NEW) │ │ │ │[ ] Power Management Timer Support │ │ │ └┴(+)───┘ │ ├───┤ │ Select Exit Help │ └───┘ It's not the best, but it should help anyway. Do you see the * to the left of ACPI Support? That means that that is compiled into the kernel. The same for Button. See the M to the left of Battery? That means it is compiled as a module and has to be loaded when you boot up or whenever you need to use. The ones that have nothing in there, they are not in the kernel at all. Oh, do you see the little + sign at the bottom right under Power Management Timer Support? That means there is more below. You can use the down arrow to scroll down and it will come up. As it says up at the top, you can press y to compile it in, press m to have it as a module or press n to leave it out. You can also swith through them with the space bar. There are a lot of gurus here that may disagree with this, but I have no modules for my kernel unless I have to have it for some reason. I did have modules for my temp sensors but that was so I could reset it without rebooting. I'm sure someone will come in with 100 reasons to have modules and some others will have reasons not too. I say do it like you need to and whatever makes you and the system happy. I'm just going to try compiling stuff into the kernel first, before I try and tinker. When you make a new kernel, don't remove the old one. Since it does boot up, you can use it to fall back on in case your new one fails for some reason. Just give it a different name from the old one when you copy it over. I do mine names like this: So, I should rename one of my kernels and try and see which one is which? Or am I still off the mark? It didn't look like it compiled the kernel... I think it should have taken longer, but it didn't. I may be missing a step. : / [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /boot/bzI* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2196613 Sep 18 2005 /boot/bzImage-gen-2.6.12-1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2224482 Dec 20 20:31 /boot/bzImage-gen-2.6.14-4 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2225130 Dec 27 04:50 /boot/bzImage-gen-2.6.14-5 [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # I currently have three kernels that I can boot if one of them gets corrupted or something. The last digit is like a version number for me. If you can't boot the old one, you can hit e twice when grub comes up and then use the arrow keys to edit which kernel you want to boot. It can save you a lot of headaches too. After you edit that, you just hit return and then hit the b key to boot it up. If it gives you a grub error, just hit the escape (Esc) key to go back and try again. Just a question: if the support is made to be as a module (M, instead of *) does that mean that you have to add something like doacpi to the boot parameters? Another thing you may not know, you can hit the tab key to complete a lot of commands too. That includes on the grub screen. If you know it is bzImage something but can't remember the rest, just delete back to the bzImage then hit the tab key, may have to hit it twice though. It will either fill it in or
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Teresa and Dale wrote: Gabriel Dain wrote: However, I don't know how to rebuild the kernel # cd /usr/src/linux # make menuconfig !--- Add whatever support you need, i've never worked with ACPI, sorry --- # make make modules_install Addition: cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImageyour stuff here Then add it or change it in bootloader, grub is easier on this one. ;-) make install will do that as well. It will also re-run lilo, if lilo is used instead of grub. # emerge -av acpid !--- -av means --verbose and --ask, so you can see Better yet: emerge -avt acpid The -t (tree) will show what package is causing the emerge of other packages. Alexander Skwar -- The idea of abstracting away the one thing that must be blindingly fast, the kernel, is inherently counter productive. -- Linus Torvalds on Microkernels (Open Sources, 1999 O'Reilly Associates) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Lord Sauron wrote: Either they have a new bootloader or you mean grub. I have used Lilo and now use grub. IMHO, grub is better. Yes, I mean grub. I had a small technical difficulty : ) For me, that would be not being able to type worth a hoot. My sig on the forums says I can't type good. snip I hope some of this makes sense. I have been where you are now and it is a bit . . . . scary. Hmm... maybe not scary as much as being assaulted with too many new things all at once. It makes it very hard to find where to dip your toe into the larger pool of information. -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 Wl, this Gentoo Linux. I can tell you that once you get Gentoo up and running, it is awesome. I have used Mandrake and it was OK until it came time to upgrade. It also didn't teach me much. Installing Gentoo taught me a lot. It takes time but it is worth it in the end. There are also some good folks on here and the forums to help get you through. Just hope you like to search and read a lot. Forums are a great place to search. Go here: www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/3196/5/ and read this section: 4.3. Configuring the kernel That should help. That is a old guide for the older kernels but some of it still applies. That should help you a lot though. Hope that helps. Keep your chin up. Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/25/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lord Sauron wrote: Either they have a new bootloader or you mean grub. I have used Lilo and now use grub. IMHO, grub is better. Yes, I mean grub. I had a small technical difficulty : ) For me, that would be not being able to type worth a hoot. My sig on the forums says I can't type good. snip I hope some of this makes sense. I have been where you are now and it is a bit . . . . scary. Hmm... maybe not scary as much as being assaulted with too many new things all at once. It makes it very hard to find where to dip your toe into the larger pool of information. -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 Wl, this Gentoo Linux. I can tell you that once you get Gentoo up and running, it is awesome. I have used Mandrake and it was OK until it came time to upgrade. It also didn't teach me much. Installing Gentoo taught me a lot. It takes time but it is worth it in the end. You think it taught you a lot? You should see how much I've learned from it! There are also some good folks on here and the forums to help get you through. Just hope you like to search and read a lot. Forums are a great place to search. Yeah, I got lots of good comments from others about how great the Gentoo community was/is. Go here: www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/3196/5/ and read this section: 4.3. Configuring the kernel That should help. That is a old guide for the older kernels but some of it still applies. That should help you a lot though. Yeah, I did what you told me to do with the make install_whatevers and then rebooted and I got what I think is vanilla X - no GDM, KDM, or anything. It's sorta cool, 'cause they give you an xterm and nothing else, but at the same time I want my KDE back. Anyone know what to do here? init.d says has these things: acpid crypto-loop gpm localmount pwcheck shutdown.sh apmd cupsd halt.sh modules reboot.sh spamd bootmisc depscan.sh hdparm net.eth0 reslisa sshd checkfs distccd hostname net.lo rmnologin syslog-ng checkroot domainname hotplug netmount rsyncd urandom clock esound keymaps nscd runscript.sh vixie-cron coldplug fand lisa numlock samba xdm consolefont functions.sh local portmap sasauthd I tried xdm restart, xdm start, and am about to try xdm stop to see if I can get the normal GDM login screen (which will then start KDE - yay!) However, I'm not sure what to do if that fails. I know that there's a xinit something or other somewhere that I should put startkde in, but I'm not sure where or what to do now. I learned about xinit and startkde a long while ago on Debian when I didn't know that hitting spacebar selects a checkbox. I ended up installing the base Debian system - nothing extra. It was interesting, my first time on Linux with nothing but me and the console. Luckily I managed to beat my way through the problem after about a week. Hope that helps. Keep your chin up. Yeah, don't worry - I don't stop until it's done. Thanks for your help! -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Found xinit! However... it's very... confusing. Well, not confusing; I understand most of it, however, I'm just not prepared to start carving it up - I don't want to know how bad I can screw things up. I think that if I go to ~/.xinit.d it'll be the thing I'm looking for, but I'm not sure. Here's a copy of the file I found for you to try and tell me if I'm right - I'm going to explore the aforementioned file and see if that's something good. I'll also work on removing apmd. Would this be something like emerge --unmerge apmd? Or am I off the mark? xinitrc Description: Binary data
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On Saturday 25 March 2006 21:58, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 25 March 2006 21:22, Lord Sauron wrote: Found xinit! However... it's very... confusing. What you want is a file called .xsession in your home directory. Mine just contains: #!/bin/sh `which startkde` Why not just: #!/bin/sh startkde If 'which' can find startkde then it must be in the PATH. Josh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/25/06, Josh Helmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 25 March 2006 21:58, Peter Ruskin wrote: On Saturday 25 March 2006 21:22, Lord Sauron wrote: Found xinit! However... it's very... confusing. What you want is a file called .xsession in your home directory. Mine just contains: #!/bin/sh `which startkde` Why not just: #!/bin/sh startkde If 'which' can find startkde then it must be in the PATH. Yeah, I'm trying that now. When you say home directory you mean /home/lsauron (my default user), right? -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
However, I don't know how to rebuild the kernel # cd /usr/src/linux # make menuconfig !--- Add whatever support you need, i've never worked with ACPI, sorry --- # make make modules_install # reboot that should do it, if support is what you need. However, this will probably be more useful: # emerge -av acpid !--- -av means --verbose and --ask, so you can see what you're actually emerging, and have to choice no to, if you want --- and read this for help on configuring it: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_ACPI_basic_configuration Gabriel Dain -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Gabriel Dain wrote: However, I don't know how to rebuild the kernel # cd /usr/src/linux # make menuconfig !--- Add whatever support you need, i've never worked with ACPI, sorry --- # make make modules_install Addition: cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImageyour stuff here Then add it or change it in bootloader, grub is easier on this one. ;-) Then . . . . # reboot that should do it, if support is what you need. However, this will probably be more useful: # emerge -av acpid !--- -av means --verbose and --ask, so you can see what you're actually emerging, and have to choice no to, if you want --- and read this for help on configuring it: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_ACPI_basic_configuration Gabriel Dain Other than that, pretty good start. May need more help though since you are new to this. Welcome to Gentoo Linux. You'll get over that feeling of being a 'long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs' after a while. LOL Dale :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
I'm very very new to Gentoo. I managed to squeak through a install from the live CD, however, this gave me a kernel with little or no ACPI support - I have a laptop, so I'd like to have this support enabled. However, I don't know how to rebuild the kernel, or do so enabling ACPI support. I only know a few precious things about emerge, like --sync, --search, and even --help, but beyond that I'm not that good at all, and the man pages didn't offer much help for me. There's a chapter on kernel config in Gentoo handbook: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml If LiveCD kernel works for you, you may use its config as a starting point for your custom kernel. There's a couple of articles on Gentoo wiki which may be helpful: http://gentoo-wiki.com/Index:HOWTO#ACPI_.26_APM HTH, Sasha -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 19:19:07 +1100, Gabriel Dain wrote: # cd /usr/src/linux # make menuconfig !--- Add whatever support you need, i've never worked with ACPI, sorry --- # make make modules_install # reboot That should be make make modules_install make install or your new kernel will still be in /usr/src/linux :( -- Neil Bothwick BUFFERS=20 FILES=15 2nd down, 4th quarter, 5 yards to go! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/24/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then reboot to your 'Safe' kernel to make sure things work. Oh, and obviously, you should do this *before* starting any work on rebuilding or installing a new kernel... -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/24/06, Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I don't know how to rebuild the kernel, or do so enabling Others have covered the mechanics of building and installing the kernel. Just a couple of points to try to keep you out of trouble: 1. However you install the kernel (by which I mean the bzImage gets copied to /boot), make really sure you have a backup kernel, and can boot from it. Something like: cp /boot/vmlinuz-blah-blah /boot/vmlinuz-SAFE cp /boot/initrd-blah-blah /boot/initrd-SAFE and then add an entry to /boot/grub/grub.conf like so: title Safe kernel /vmlinuz-SAFE blah blah blah initrd /initrd-SAFE Then reboot to your 'Safe' kernel to make sure things work. 2. Since you are just starting out with kernel configuration, only _add_ things to the kernel, don't delete any drivers, and avoid modules (make everything a '*' in menuconfig, not 'M'). Once you get some confidence with configuring and installing kernels, and rebooting with your backup kernel, you can get more adventurous with modules or removing unnecessary drivers. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Richard Fish wrote: On 3/24/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then reboot to your 'Safe' kernel to make sure things work. Oh, and obviously, you should do this *before* starting any work on rebuilding or installing a new kernel... -Richard Also, something to keep in mind, if anything gets messed up (like you can't boot at all anymore) you can use that install cd as a livecd and repair whatever you need to. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/24/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel Dain wrote: However, I don't know how to rebuild the kernel # cd /usr/src/linux Know how to do that... # make menuconfig I don't see a file called menuconfig in here. Will this work? All I see (that looks relevant) is Makefile, include/ and kernel/ !--- Add whatever support you need, i've never worked with ACPI, sorry --- No clue whatsoever how to do that. I've never built a kernel before, not on Debian, not on Red Hat, not on anything. # make make modules_install What'll that do? Make and make modules_install? I don't see anything called modules_install either. Addition: cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImageyour stuff here I think mine is a i686... I think I should say that I did just take the kernel off the live CD... I wasn't brave enough (at the time) to build a kernel. Then add it or change it in bootloader, grub is easier on this one. ;-) I use grup. Then . . . . # reboot that should do it, if support is what you need. However, this will probably be more useful: # emerge -av acpid !--- -av means --verbose and --ask, so you can see what you're actually emerging, and have to choice no to, if you want --- Okay... and read this for help on configuring it: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_ACPI_basic_configuration Did so. However, the Battery Monitor for KDE still tells me to rebuild my kernel with this ACPI enabled, most specifically AC Adaptor and Control Method Battery, though if it'll support more then I'd certainly love to do that. Gabriel Dain Other than that, pretty good start. May need more help though since you are new to this. Welcome to Gentoo Linux. You'll get over that feeling of being a 'long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs' after a while. LOL I've been using Debian (Debian and Kubuntu) for the past 5 months or so to build my skills to the point that I can squeak through Gentoo with only minor injuries : ) I'm also in that odd area of learning C++ where I'm not ultra-good, but I'm not clueless, either : ) So eventually I'll be attempting to interrogate all of you about these fascinating bash scripts. Even so, I'm really loving Gentoo it leaves a smaller memory footprint than even Debian! Coming from ten years of Windows use, that's like... going to heaven without having to die, really. Thanks for your help. I'll try and see if I can get this to work the easy way. Also, emerge now tells me that I have 19 config files in /etc to be updated. How would I go about doing that? emerge --help config confused me more than anything else (that was what emerge reccommended I do). -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Hah! Think I found my problem! Correct me if I'm wrong! I just was reading some documentation using KDE Help Centre and found this thing called APMD. I tried typing apmd into Konsole, and it said No APM support in kernel. Does this mean this is going to be as easy as emerge apmd? On 3/24/06, Lord Sauron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 3/24/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel Dain wrote: However, I don't know how to rebuild the kernel # cd /usr/src/linux Know how to do that... # make menuconfig I don't see a file called menuconfig in here. Will this work? All I see (that looks relevant) is Makefile, include/ and kernel/ !--- Add whatever support you need, i've never worked with ACPI, sorry --- No clue whatsoever how to do that. I've never built a kernel before, not on Debian, not on Red Hat, not on anything. # make make modules_install What'll that do? Make and make modules_install? I don't see anything called modules_install either. Addition: cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImageyour stuff here I think mine is a i686... I think I should say that I did just take the kernel off the live CD... I wasn't brave enough (at the time) to build a kernel. Then add it or change it in bootloader, grub is easier on this one. ;-) I use grup. Then . . . . # reboot that should do it, if support is what you need. However, this will probably be more useful: # emerge -av acpid !--- -av means --verbose and --ask, so you can see what you're actually emerging, and have to choice no to, if you want --- Okay... and read this for help on configuring it: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_ACPI_basic_configuration Did so. However, the Battery Monitor for KDE still tells me to rebuild my kernel with this ACPI enabled, most specifically AC Adaptor and Control Method Battery, though if it'll support more then I'd certainly love to do that. Gabriel Dain Other than that, pretty good start. May need more help though since you are new to this. Welcome to Gentoo Linux. You'll get over that feeling of being a 'long tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs' after a while. LOL I've been using Debian (Debian and Kubuntu) for the past 5 months or so to build my skills to the point that I can squeak through Gentoo with only minor injuries : ) I'm also in that odd area of learning C++ where I'm not ultra-good, but I'm not clueless, either : ) So eventually I'll be attempting to interrogate all of you about these fascinating bash scripts. Even so, I'm really loving Gentoo it leaves a smaller memory footprint than even Debian! Coming from ten years of Windows use, that's like... going to heaven without having to die, really. Thanks for your help. I'll try and see if I can get this to work the easy way. Also, emerge now tells me that I have 19 config files in /etc to be updated. How would I go about doing that? emerge --help config confused me more than anything else (that was what emerge reccommended I do). -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Lord Sauron wrote: Hah! Think I found my problem! Correct me if I'm wrong! I just was reading some documentation using KDE Help Centre and found this thing called APMD. I tried typing apmd into Konsole, and it said No APM support in kernel. Does this mean this is going to be as easy as emerge apmd? APM is the old power management system, from before ACPI was invented. You can use APM or ACPI, but the two are mutually exclusive and do *not* work together. If you'd like to use APM, you need to remove ACPI support from your kernel, replace it with APM support, uninstall acpid (or at least stop it running), and install and start apmd. ACPI is recommended over APM these days due to its larger feature set. HTH. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Lord Sauron wrote: On 3/24/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel Dain wrote: However, I don't know how to rebuild the kernel # cd /usr/src/linux Know how to do that... # make menuconfig I don't see a file called menuconfig in here. Will this work? All I see (that looks relevant) is Makefile, include/ and kernel/ You don't see that as a file, it is a command. Just type it in and a new screen comes up to configure the kernel with. Use the arrow keys to navigate around. I use the space bar to toggle what I want it to do as far as modules or build in. Some of this may not make sense until you are in there. Once you see it, it will clear up a bit. It took be about 10 tries to get a stable kernel the first time I did it. Now, if I know the hard ware, twice is about the most tries I need. I usually hit it the first time. !--- Add whatever support you need, i've never worked with ACPI, sorry --- No clue whatsoever how to do that. I've never built a kernel before, not on Debian, not on Red Hat, not on anything. # make make modules_install What'll that do? Make and make modules_install? I don't see anything called modules_install either. When you type in make, it builds the kernel itself and creates a bzImage, it also makes the modules. BzImage is the kernel. That is the first thing the OS itself loads up to boot, yes, windoze has one too. Make modules_install installs any modules that were built during the make command. Addition: cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImageyour stuff here I think mine is a i686... I think I should say that I did just take the kernel off the live CD... I wasn't brave enough (at the time) to build a kernel. It is the same for them all. My rig is i686 too but the kernel in i386 is what you use. Then add it or change it in bootloader, grub is easier on this one. ;-) I use grup. Either they have a new bootloader or you mean grub. I have used Lilo and now use grub. IMHO, grub is better. snip I hope some of this makes sense. I have been where you are now and it is a bit . . . . scary. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
[1]http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree
[2]http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=7
[3]http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/kernel-upgrade.xml
[4]http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/genkernel.xml
If you new to kernel compile and config, Dont hurry. relax~ : )
First, read the *README*[1] file in kernel source. Maybe it is already
installed at /usr/src/linux/README.('/usr/src/linux' is symbolic links
that point real kernel source directory '/usr/src/linux-yourversion')
And check 'Gentoo Handbook - Configuring Kernel'[2] for current gentoo
profile(2006.0) required kernel option(and other contents too)
[3], [4] is maybe optional. But encourage yourself reading that document. :)
When configuring kernel option in 'menuconfig' or 'xconfg'(gconfig), you
can read inline help document. Critical option(cause to boot failure) is
everywhere. Be patient and Dont hurry
Before reboot with new kernel, Keep your existing(bootable) kernel file
and bootloader config(/boot/grub.conf).
Hope to get your 'own' kernel. :)
--
Mait
Lord Sauron wrote:
Hi,
I'm very very new to Gentoo. I managed to squeak through a install
from the live CD, however, this gave me a kernel with little or no
ACPI support - I have a laptop, so I'd like to have this support
enabled.
However, I don't know how to rebuild the kernel, or do so enabling
ACPI support. I only know a few precious things about emerge, like
--sync, --search, and even --help, but beyond that I'm not that good
at all, and the man pages didn't offer much help for me.
I know this is a painfully elementary question, but thanks for any
help you can give!
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Re: [gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
On 3/24/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lord Sauron wrote: On 3/24/06, Teresa and Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gabriel Dain wrote: However, I don't know how to rebuild the kernel # cd /usr/src/linux Know how to do that... # make menuconfig I don't see a file called menuconfig in here. Will this work? All I see (that looks relevant) is Makefile, include/ and kernel/ You don't see that as a file, it is a command. Just type it in and a new screen comes up to configure the kernel with. Use the arrow keys to navigate around. I use the space bar to toggle what I want it to do as far as modules or build in. Some of this may not make sense until you are in there. Once you see it, it will clear up a bit. It took be about 10 tries to get a stable kernel the first time I did it. Now, if I know the hard ware, twice is about the most tries I need. I usually hit it the first time. Ah, okay. That makes sense. !--- Add whatever support you need, i've never worked with ACPI, sorry --- No clue whatsoever how to do that. I've never built a kernel before, not on Debian, not on Red Hat, not on anything. # make make modules_install What'll that do? Make and make modules_install? I don't see anything called modules_install either. When you type in make, it builds the kernel itself and creates a bzImage, it also makes the modules. BzImage is the kernel. That is the first thing the OS itself loads up to boot, yes, windoze has one too. Make modules_install installs any modules that were built during the make command. Addition: cp /usr/src/linux/arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/bzImageyour stuff here I think mine is a i686... I think I should say that I did just take the kernel off the live CD... I wasn't brave enough (at the time) to build a kernel. It is the same for them all. My rig is i686 too but the kernel in i386 is what you use. Then add it or change it in bootloader, grub is easier on this one. ;-) I use grup. Either they have a new bootloader or you mean grub. I have used Lilo and now use grub. IMHO, grub is better. Yes, I mean grub. I had a small technical difficulty : ) snip I hope some of this makes sense. I have been where you are now and it is a bit . . . . scary. Hmm... maybe not scary as much as being assaulted with too many new things all at once. It makes it very hard to find where to dip your toe into the larger pool of information. -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] New To Gentoo and Emerge, No ACPI in Kernel
Hi, I'm very very new to Gentoo. I managed to squeak through a install from the live CD, however, this gave me a kernel with little or no ACPI support - I have a laptop, so I'd like to have this support enabled. However, I don't know how to rebuild the kernel, or do so enabling ACPI support. I only know a few precious things about emerge, like --sync, --search, and even --help, but beyond that I'm not that good at all, and the man pages didn't offer much help for me. I know this is a painfully elementary question, but thanks for any help you can give! == Lord Sauron the Great = == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+ P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 == www.geekcode.com === -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
