CLOSED Re: [gentoo-user] panic:: octave: magick/semaphore.c:525: [...] failed

2010-08-01 Thread Valmor de Almeida
On 07/29/2010 06:19 AM, pk wrote:
> On 2010-07-29 06:49, Valmor de Almeida wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the feedback. I posted the same question on the octave users
>> list but no answers.
> 
> Maybe vacation time so most users are offline? I'm on vacation but still
> online... :-)
> 
> If you know C you could check out the semaphore.c file to see what it
> looks like and how whatever function is used should be called... maybe
> it can give you some clue?
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Peter K
> 

For the record, the work around this problem was posted on the octave
users list.

>>>It appears to me to be either initialization problem or race
>>>condition. The workaround that
>>>works for me is to read some file first fith imread, after that
>>>imwrite works fine. I.e.:
>>>
>>>junk1 = imread("some_file.png")
>>>im=ones(2);
>>>imwrite(im, "myfile.png")
>>>
>>>Dmitri.

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Re: [gentoo-user] panic:: octave: magick/semaphore.c:525: [...] failed

2010-07-29 Thread pk
On 2010-07-29 06:49, Valmor de Almeida wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback. I posted the same question on the octave users
> list but no answers.

Maybe vacation time so most users are offline? I'm on vacation but still
online... :-)

If you know C you could check out the semaphore.c file to see what it
looks like and how whatever function is used should be called... maybe
it can give you some clue?

Best regards

Peter K



Re: [gentoo-user] panic:: octave: magick/semaphore.c:525: [...] failed

2010-07-28 Thread Valmor de Almeida
pk wrote:
[snip]
> Hi,
> 
> I tested your code (and variations of it) and I get the same result
> as you. Googling seems to indicate that lots of other people are having
> similar problems with imwrite/imread function. The functions are not
> part of the octave package but is an add-on. However, from what I can
> see it may be a problem in the way octave make the graphicsmagick
> write-call (of course there may be a problem with graphicksmagick itself
> as well). Don't know enough to be of more help... Sorry!
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Peter K
> 

Thanks for the feedback. I posted the same question on the octave users
list but no answers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] panic:: octave: magick/semaphore.c:525: [...] failed

2010-07-28 Thread pk
On 2010-07-26 18:16, Valmor de Almeida wrote:

> ->  ./test.m
> octave: magick/semaphore.c:525: LockSemaphoreInfo: Assertion
> `semaphore_info != (SemaphoreInfo *) ((void *)0)' failed.
> panic: Aborted -- stopping myself...
> attempting to save variables to `octave-core'...
> save to `octave-core' complete
> Aborted

Hi,

I tested your code (and variations of it) and I get the same result
as you. Googling seems to indicate that lots of other people are having
similar problems with imwrite/imread function. The functions are not
part of the octave package but is an add-on. However, from what I can
see it may be a problem in the way octave make the graphicsmagick
write-call (of course there may be a problem with graphicksmagick itself
as well). Don't know enough to be of more help... Sorry!

Best regards

Peter K



[gentoo-user] panic:: octave: magick/semaphore.c:525: [...] failed

2010-07-26 Thread Valmor de Almeida

Hello,

The test code below for writing an image to a file crashes octave. Would
anyone be able to help? I am using octave-3.2.4-r1 and graphicsmagick-1.3.12

Thanks,

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file test.m
---
#! /usr/bin/octave -qf

im = ones(2,2);
im(2,1) = 0.5;
im(1,2) = 0.5;

imwrite(im,"image.png");
--

->  ./test.m
octave: magick/semaphore.c:525: LockSemaphoreInfo: Assertion
`semaphore_info != (SemaphoreInfo *) ((void *)0)' failed.
panic: Aborted -- stopping myself...
attempting to save variables to `octave-core'...
save to `octave-core' complete
Aborted




Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-18 Thread Neil Walker

Dale wrote:

No. The update code is built into the hardware now, if just needs a FAT
partition it can read the new firmware file from.
  


Now that is kewl!!  I need to make sure the next mobo I buy has that 
feature.  ;-) 


Or you can just emerge syslinux and boot a floppy image on your hd from 
grub - as I just did with my new Abit. ;)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-17 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2007 17:36:47 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> Oooops, let me rephrase that.  To update the BIOS, does it have to have
>> a OS on that stick?
>> 
>
> No. The update code is built into the hardware now, if just needs a FAT
> partition it can read the new firmware file from.
>
>
>   

Now that is kewl!!  I need to make sure the next mobo I buy has that
feature.  ;-) 

Thanks for the info.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 May 2007 17:36:47 -0500, Dale wrote:

> Oooops, let me rephrase that.  To update the BIOS, does it have to have
> a OS on that stick?

No. The update code is built into the hardware now, if just needs a FAT
partition it can read the new firmware file from.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-16 Thread Dale
Randy Barlow wrote:
> Dale wrote:
> >> USB sticks are virtually worthless nowadays, for a couple tens of
> >> dollars you should be able to get one with a capacity of a few gigs.  
> >>
> >> There's also the possibility of writing directly to the cmos
> >> with /dev/nvram, isn't there?  It's a character device driver in the
> >> kernel.
>
> > I didn't know they were that cheap.  Don't they require a OS though?  I
> > don't have windoze around here.  ;-)
>
> They work just fine in Linux!
>
> R
>

Oooops, let me rephrase that.  To update the BIOS, does it have to have
a OS on that stick?

On the other thingy:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # ls -al /dev/nv*
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # 

That's all the nvidia stuff I saw.  Maybe I need to check on that kernel
or a newer one may help.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-16 Thread Randy Barlow
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Dale wrote:
>> USB sticks are virtually worthless nowadays, for a couple tens of
>> dollars you should be able to get one with a capacity of a few gigs.  
>>
>> There's also the possibility of writing directly to the cmos
>> with /dev/nvram, isn't there?  It's a character device driver in the
>> kernel.

> I didn't know they were that cheap.  Don't they require a OS though?  I
> don't have windoze around here.  ;-)

They work just fine in Linux!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-16 Thread Dale
Neil Walker wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> Cool.  I'm a Linux only person here so this is something that I am
>> curious about.  That wouldn't happen to have been a Abit mobo would it?
>>   
>
> No, sorry. It was an Asus - which is mostly what I buy. However, the
> one arriving tomorrow is an Abit so I might know a bit more about them
> by then. My previous Abit was a PII-400 machine. ;) FWIW, my next one
> will be a Tyan dual socket F in a few weeks time. ;)
>
> Be lucky,
>
> Neil
>


I'm planning to try to build me a new rig soon, I hope.  I wouldn't mind
if you emailed me off list with how that went.  I run folding here so I
need all the cores I can get.  :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-16 Thread Dale
Dan Farrell wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:54:09 -0500
> Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>   
>> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:21:41 -0500, Dale wrote:
>>>   
 Now that most puters don't have a floppy, how will people update
 the BIOS??  I don't have windoze at all and my next rig may not
 have a floppy either.
 
>>> My new Asus motherboard updates from a USB stick.
>>>   
>
>   
>> LOL  I don't have one of those either.  Just my luck.  At least they
>> are looking ahead though. 
>> 
>
>   
>> Dale
>> 
>
> USB sticks are virtually worthless nowadays, for a couple tens of
> dollars you should be able to get one with a capacity of a few gigs.  
>
> There's also the possibility of writing directly to the cmos
> with /dev/nvram, isn't there?  It's a character device driver in the
> kernel.  
>   

I didn't know they were that cheap.  Don't they require a OS though?  I
don't have windoze around here.  ;-)

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-16 Thread Dan Farrell
On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:54:09 -0500
Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:21:41 -0500, Dale wrote:
> >> Now that most puters don't have a floppy, how will people update
> >> the BIOS??  I don't have windoze at all and my next rig may not
> >> have a floppy either.
> > My new Asus motherboard updates from a USB stick.

> LOL  I don't have one of those either.  Just my luck.  At least they
> are looking ahead though. 

> Dale

USB sticks are virtually worthless nowadays, for a couple tens of
dollars you should be able to get one with a capacity of a few gigs.  

There's also the possibility of writing directly to the cmos
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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-16 Thread Neil Walker

Dale wrote:

Cool.  I'm a Linux only person here so this is something that I am
curious about.  That wouldn't happen to have been a Abit mobo would it?
  


No, sorry. It was an Asus - which is mostly what I buy. However, the one 
arriving tomorrow is an Abit so I might know a bit more about them by 
then. My previous Abit was a PII-400 machine. ;) FWIW, my next one will 
be a Tyan dual socket F in a few weeks time. ;)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-16 Thread Dale
Neil Walker wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> Will there be a way to do it from a CD/DVD?
>>
>> Curious.
>>   
>
> In many cases, yes. I updated one just last week using a CD. That BIOS
> had an update utilty built in to which you could boot. It looks first
> for a floppy then, if not found, a CD.  :)
>
>
> Be lucky,
>
> Neil
>

Cool.  I'm a Linux only person here so this is something that I am
curious about.  That wouldn't happen to have been a Abit mobo would it?

I may need to update mine.  My mouse has acted funny ever since I had
it.  It's like it has a bounce problem.  A single click acts as two
clicks sometimes.

Thanks for the info.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-16 Thread Neil Walker

Dale wrote:

Will there be a way to do it from a CD/DVD?

Curious.
  


In many cases, yes. I updated one just last week using a CD. That BIOS 
had an update utilty built in to which you could boot. It looks first 
for a floppy then, if not found, a CD.  :)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-16 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:21:41 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> Now that most puters don't have a floppy, how will people update the
>> BIOS??  I don't have windoze at all and my next rig may not have a
>> floppy either.
>> 
>
> My new Asus motherboard updates from a USB stick.
>
>
>   

LOL  I don't have one of those either.  Just my luck.  At least they are
looking ahead though. 

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 16 May 2007 09:21:41 -0500, Dale wrote:

> Now that most puters don't have a floppy, how will people update the
> BIOS??  I don't have windoze at all and my next rig may not have a
> floppy either.

My new Asus motherboard updates from a USB stick.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-16 Thread Dale
Neil Walker wrote:
> Karl Haines wrote:
>> Actually, updating the BIOS to the newest version is almost ALWAYS a
>> good thing.
>
> I keep all the BIOSs im my machines uptodate (8 at the moment,
> building another tomorrow). ;)
>
>> Having XP installed makes no difference, except that you
>> can (with some MBs) update from within windows. They ALL, however,
>> support a BIOS update from a bootable DOS floppy. Hope this helps!
>>   
>
> I haven't owned a floppy drive in years so I have to be a bit more
> devious. ;)
>
> Anyway, thanks for your advice. :)
>
>
> Be lucky,
>
> Neil
>
>

Now that most puters don't have a floppy, how will people update the
BIOS??  I don't have windoze at all and my next rig may not have a
floppy either.

Will there be a way to do it from a CD/DVD?

Curious.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-16 Thread Neil Walker

Karl Haines wrote:

Actually, updating the BIOS to the newest version is almost ALWAYS a
good thing.


I keep all the BIOSs im my machines uptodate (8 at the moment, building 
another tomorrow). ;)



Having XP installed makes no difference, except that you
can (with some MBs) update from within windows. They ALL, however,
support a BIOS update from a bootable DOS floppy. Hope this helps!
  


I haven't owned a floppy drive in years so I have to be a bit more 
devious. ;)


Anyway, thanks for your advice. :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-15 Thread Roman Zimmermann
Am Mittwoch 16 Mai 2007 01:40 schrieb Karl Haines:
> I have fixed many problems (i'm a computer technician) with
> BIOS updates. Having XP installed makes no difference, except that you
> can (with some MBs) update from within windows. They ALL, however,
> support a BIOS update from a bootable DOS floppy. Hope this helps!

Hi!

Probably I was just frightened by some horror stories about BIOS flashing. 
I'll give it a shot in the next days.

thanks.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-15 Thread Karl Haines
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Neil Walker wrote:
> Roman Zimmermann wrote:
>> I have a similar controller to yours and did some research recently.
>> It seems that (allmost) all ICH7 controllers do support AHCI [1]. But
>> I cannot activate AHCI anywhere in the BIOS. It seems this is due to
>> some limitations of the BIOS.
>> There was also a thread on another mailing list where it was suggested
>> to update the BIOS. I'm currently pondering to do so but I'm not sure
>> about how safe it is without having a winxp installation... Besides
>> I'm not sure whether it would help.
>>
>> [1] http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/imst/sb/CS-012304.htm
>>   
> 
> 
> I checked the FAQ on the Asus website and that states that my
> motherboard doesn't support AHCI. :(
> 
> 
> Be lucky,
> 
> Neil
> 

Actually, updating the BIOS to the newest version is almost ALWAYS a
good thing. If the vendor has heard about such problems, they should
almost always do something to fix it, and apply such fixes to their next
BIOS update. I have fixed many problems (i'm a computer technician) with
BIOS updates. Having XP installed makes no difference, except that you
can (with some MBs) update from within windows. They ALL, however,
support a BIOS update from a bootable DOS floppy. Hope this helps!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-15 Thread Neil Walker

Roman Zimmermann wrote:
I have a similar controller to yours and did some research recently. It seems 
that (allmost) all ICH7 controllers do support AHCI [1]. But I cannot 
activate AHCI anywhere in the BIOS. It seems this is due to some limitations 
of the BIOS.
There was also a thread on another mailing list where it was suggested to 
update the BIOS. I'm currently pondering to do so but I'm not sure about how 
safe it is without having a winxp installation... Besides I'm not sure 
whether it would help.


[1] http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/imst/sb/CS-012304.htm
  



I checked the FAQ on the Asus website and that states that my 
motherboard doesn't support AHCI. :(



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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-15 Thread Roman Zimmermann
Am Montag 14 Mai 2007 09:19 schrieb Neil Walker:
> :( Seems my chipset is one of those that doesn't support AHCI.

Hi! 

I have a similar controller to yours and did some research recently. It seems 
that (allmost) all ICH7 controllers do support AHCI [1]. But I cannot 
activate AHCI anywhere in the BIOS. It seems this is due to some limitations 
of the BIOS.
There was also a thread on another mailing list where it was suggested to 
update the BIOS. I'm currently pondering to do so but I'm not sure about how 
safe it is without having a winxp installation... Besides I'm not sure 
whether it would help.

[1] http://www.intel.com/support/chipsets/imst/sb/CS-012304.htm


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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-14 Thread Neil Walker

Graham Murray wrote:

Did you select AHCI mode in the BIOS? On my motherboard (with
ICH6R/IC6RW) there is an option to set SATA mode to IDE, RAID or AHCI.
  


The item is there in the BIOS but only has one setting available - IDE. 
:( Seems my chipset is one of those that doesn't support AHCI. lspci 
reports this:



00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) IDE 
Controller (rev 01)
00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801GB/GR/GH (ICH7 Family) 
Serial ATA Storage Controller IDE (rev 01)


The motherboard is an Asus P5LD2-VM.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-13 Thread Graham Murray
Neil Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Well, it didn't work - just resulted in a kernel panic. It seems AHCI
> is only supported by SOME  ICH6,7,8  interfaces. :(

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-13 Thread Neil Walker

Neil Walker wrote:
Maybe I should take a closer look at AHCI - especially as it seems 
Intel are listed as a sponsor, so it must have their approval. :)


Well, it didn't work - just resulted in a kernel panic. It seems AHCI is 
only supported by SOME  ICH6,7,8  interfaces. :(



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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-12 Thread Neil Walker

Graham Murray wrote:

According to the Linux sata site
(http://linux-ata.org/driver-status.html) the AHCI driver supports all
the SATA features such as NCQ (Native Command Queueing) and hotplug but
the PIIX module does not support these.
  


I've been running the PIIX driver for quite some time and everything 
appears to work OK so it hadn't occurred to me to go looking at other 
drivers. ;) Maybe I should take a closer look at AHCI - especially as it 
seems Intel are listed as a sponsor, so it must have their approval. :)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-12 Thread Graham Murray
David Harel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Graham Murray wrote:
>> For the ICH6 and later, I think that the AHCI driver is better than
>> PIIX_ATA.   
> How can I evaluate the different solutions (They both work)?

According to the Linux sata site
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the SATA features such as NCQ (Native Command Queueing) and hotplug but
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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-12 Thread David Harel



Graham Murray wrote:


Neil Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

  

It's the Intel PIIX driver for the Intel ICH family, etc. You didn't
look for Intel or ICH?



For the ICH6 and later, I think that the AHCI driver is better than
PIIX_ATA. 
  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-12 Thread Graham Murray
Neil Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> It's the Intel PIIX driver for the Intel ICH family, etc. You didn't
> look for Intel or ICH?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-12 Thread David Harel
I read this: 
http://www.uwsg.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0510.3/2003.html and 
figured out the driver name. Are they compatible? cos that's the one 
setup and I am up and running. I'll try the driver you suggested and see 
if it works.


Neil Walker wrote:


David Harel wrote:
The driver I needed seem to be AHCI SATA.  


What makes you think that?

Was rather difficult to identify that that is the right driver 
because lspci states:


00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA 
Controller (rev 04)


and you can't find 82801 in .config


It's the Intel PIIX driver for the Intel ICH family, etc. You didn't 
look for Intel or ICH?




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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-12 Thread Neil Walker

David Harel wrote:
The driver I needed seem to be AHCI SATA.  


What makes you think that?

Was rather difficult to identify that that is the right driver because 
lspci states:


00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA 
Controller (rev 04)


and you can't find 82801 in .config


It's the Intel PIIX driver for the Intel ICH family, etc. You didn't 
look for Intel or ICH?




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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-12 Thread David Harel

Thank you both Neil Bothwick andAlan McKinnon for the great help.


Got this one working now. Still many features arn't working yet such as 
alsa and wifi but I think I will make it now.


The driver I needed seem to be AHCI SATA.  Was rather difficult to 
identify that that is the right driver because lspci states:


00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801FBM (ICH6M) SATA 
Controller (rev 04)


and you can't find 82801 in .config
Also it seems to me that the driver should be statically loaded and not 
as a module (which now makes sense unless I could have changed things in 
modules.conf or similar).



May I suggest/encourage people to write summaries (such as was a custom 
in sun managers mailing list (sun.unc.edu?) so other people can learn 
and save time?





Alan McKinnon wrote:


On Friday 11 May 2007, David Harel wrote:
  

Sorry for not providing details (was sure people will identify the
problem in a glance).


Upgrade is from 2.6.17-r8



OK, you seem to have run into the "Lets rip IDE out of the kernel and 
replace it with ATA" thing that happened in 2.6.18...


In menuconfig , under Drivers, there's a menu a little bit below the 
IDE?MFM stuff. It's called SATA/PATA or similar. You will find 
appropriate settings for your hardware there. I can't elabortae as I 
don't know what you have, but you disk settings seem to be IDE



  

Attached the panic message:


VFS: cannot open root  device sda1 or unknown block (0,0)

please append a correct "root=" boot option.

Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown -
block (0,0)



Please, please, please always quote the correct error messages and leave 
your personal evaluation out of it. See how the above says absolutely 
nothing about ext3? But your original post was all about that, and 
without the actual error and .config, we would have spent hours trying 
to get your fs working, when in fault it is not faulty...




  


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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 11 May 2007, David Harel wrote:
> Sorry for not providing details (was sure people will identify the
> problem in a glance).
>
>
> Upgrade is from 2.6.17-r8

OK, you seem to have run into the "Lets rip IDE out of the kernel and 
replace it with ATA" thing that happened in 2.6.18...

In menuconfig , under Drivers, there's a menu a little bit below the 
IDE?MFM stuff. It's called SATA/PATA or similar. You will find 
appropriate settings for your hardware there. I can't elabortae as I 
don't know what you have, but you disk settings seem to be IDE


> Attached the panic message:
>
>
> VFS: cannot open root  device sda1 or unknown block (0,0)
>
> please append a correct "root=" boot option.
>
> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown -
> block (0,0)

Please, please, please always quote the correct error messages and leave 
your personal evaluation out of it. See how the above says absolutely 
nothing about ext3? But your original post was all about that, and 
without the actual error and .config, we would have spent hours trying 
to get your fs working, when in fault it is not faulty...



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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-11 Thread Etaoin Shrdlu
On Friday 11 May 2007 16:39, David Harel wrote:

> lilo is double checked. Below the relevant section.
>
>
> boot=/dev/sda
> root=/dev/sda1
> read-only
>
>
> image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-r8.v0
>
>   label=SDA1-20-r8.v0
>   append="root=/dev/sda1"

This last line, written this way, looks wrong or at least useless to me.
Try to change it into the simpler

  root = /dev/sda1

or remove it altogether, since you already specified the root device in 
the global section.

Also, you seem to have a SCSI or SATA drive (the output of lspci would 
help here). All SCSI low-level drivers are disabled in your config, so I 
guess you have a SATA drive. But, you have also disabled all the SATA 
drivers (it's the "Serial ATA (prod) and Parallel ATA (experimental) 
drivers" section). This could happen if you did "make oldconfig" using a 
pre-2.6.19 config file, because SATA drivers moved under CONFIG_ATA 
starting from 2.6.19. If so, do a "make menuconfig" and double check 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 11 May 2007 17:39:57 +0300, David Harel wrote:

> Upgrade is from 2.6.17-r8
> 
> Attached the panic message:
> 
> 
> VFS: cannot open root  device sda1 or unknown block (0,0)
> 
> please append a correct "root=" boot option.
> 
> Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown - 
> block (0,0)

You've been bitten by the same thing that hit most other SATA users. The
SATA config options moved between 2.6.18 and 2.6.19 so your SATA chipset
driver is no longer compiled in to the kernel. Do a make menuconfig,
hit / and search for your SATA driver and enable it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-11 Thread David Harel
Sorry for not providing details (was sure people will identify the 
problem in a glance).



Upgrade is from 2.6.17-r8

Attached the panic message:


VFS: cannot open root  device sda1 or unknown block (0,0)

please append a correct "root=" boot option.

Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown - 
block (0,0)



Attached the .config file (after converted to 2.6.20-r8 - make oldconfig 
- just hit the enter key)


lilo is double checked. Below the relevant section.


boot=/dev/sda
root=/dev/sda1
read-only


image=/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.20-r8.v0

 label=SDA1-20-r8.v0
 append="root=/dev/sda1"



Alan McKinnon wrote:


On Friday 11 May 2007, David Harel wrote:
  

Greetings,


After installing gentoo-source-2.6.20-r8 I copied my current .config
file to the new kernel and did make oldconfig. I had to do define
only new properties of the new kernel and the rest was taken from the
original config file however, at boot time I got panic halt on root
mount stating that ext3 is not supported. Double check on support for
ext3 is OK.



  

Any idea?



Given the actual information you posted above, none whatsoever.

Please post your .config and the version number of the kernel you were 
upgrading from and we'll all take a look-see


alan

  


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# Linux kernel version: 2.6.20-gentoo-r8
# Fri May 11 16:54:29 2007
#
CONFIG_X86_32=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_TIME=y
CONFIG_LOCKDEP_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_STACKTRACE_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_SEMAPHORE_SLEEPERS=y
CONFIG_X86=y
CONFIG_MMU=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_ISA_DMA=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_IOMAP=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_BUG=y
CONFIG_GENERIC_HWEIGHT=y
CONFIG_ARCH_MAY_HAVE_PC_FDC=y
CONFIG_DMI=y
CONFIG_DEFCONFIG_LIST="/lib/modules/$UNAME_RELEASE/.config"

#
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#
CONFIG_EXPERIMENTAL=y
CONFIG_BROKEN_ON_SMP=y
CONFIG_LOCK_KERNEL=y
CONFIG_INIT_ENV_ARG_LIMIT=32

#
# General setup
#
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION=""
CONFIG_LOCALVERSION_AUTO=y
CONFIG_SWAP=y
CONFIG_SYSVIPC=y
# CONFIG_IPC_NS is not set
CONFIG_POSIX_MQUEUE=y
# CONFIG_BSD_PROCESS_ACCT is not set
# CONFIG_TASKSTATS is not set
# CONFIG_UTS_NS is not set
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CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED=y
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CONFIG_INITRAMFS_SOURCE=""
# CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE is not set
CONFIG_SYSCTL=y
# CONFIG_EMBEDDED is not set
CONFIG_UID16=y
CONFIG_SYSCTL_SYSCALL=y
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CONFIG_HOTPLUG=y
CONFIG_PRINTK=y
CONFIG_BUG=y
CONFIG_ELF_CORE=y
CONFIG_BASE_FULL=y
CONFIG_FUTEX=y
CONFIG_EPOLL=y
CONFIG_SHMEM=y
CONFIG_SLAB=y
CONFIG_VM_EVENT_COUNTERS=y
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# CONFIG_TINY_SHMEM is not set
CONFIG_BASE_SMALL=0
# CONFIG_SLOB is not set

#
# Loadable module support
#
CONFIG_MODULES=y
CONFIG_MODULE_UNLOAD=y
CONFIG_MODULE_FORCE_UNLOAD=y
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# CONFIG_MODULE_SRCVERSION_ALL is not set
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#
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#
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# CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IO_TRACE is not set
# CONFIG_LSF is not set

#
# IO Schedulers
#
CONFIG_IOSCHED_NOOP=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_AS=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_DEADLINE=y
CONFIG_IOSCHED_CFQ=y
CONFIG_DEFAULT_AS=y
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# CONFIG_DEFAULT_CFQ is not set
# CONFIG_DEFAULT_NOOP is not set
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# CONFIG_X86_SUMMIT is not set
# CONFIG_X86_BIGSMP is not set
# CONFIG_X86_VISWS is not set
# CONFIG_X86_GENERICARCH is not set
# CONFIG_X86_ES7000 is not set
# CONFIG_PARAVIRT is not set
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# CONFIG_MCRUSOE is not set
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CONFIG_X86_XADD=y
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CONFIG_RWSEM_XCHGADD_ALGORITHM=y
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CONFIG_GENERIC_CALIBRATE_DELAY=y
CONFIG_X86_WP_WORKS_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_INVLPG=y
CONFIG_X86_BSWAP=y
CONFIG_X86_POPAD_OK=y
CONFIG_X86_CMPXCHG64=y
CONFIG_X86_GOOD_APIC=y
CONFIG_X86_INTEL_USERCOPY=y
CONFIG_X86_USE_PPRO_CHECKSUM=y
CONFIG_X86_TSC=y
CONFIG

Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, 11. Mai 2007 schrieb ext David Harel:

> After installing gentoo-source-2.6.20-r8 I copied my current .config
> file to the new kernel and did make oldconfig. I had to do define only
> new properties of the new kernel and the rest was taken from the
> original config file however, at boot time I got panic halt on root
> mount stating that ext3 is not supported. Double check on support for
> ext3 is OK.

Could you please, in addition to what Alan requested, post the _exact_ 
message?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 11 May 2007, David Harel wrote:
> Greetings,
>
>
> After installing gentoo-source-2.6.20-r8 I copied my current .config
> file to the new kernel and did make oldconfig. I had to do define
> only new properties of the new kernel and the rest was taken from the
> original config file however, at boot time I got panic halt on root
> mount stating that ext3 is not supported. Double check on support for
> ext3 is OK.

> Any idea?

Given the actual information you posted above, none whatsoever.

Please post your .config and the version number of the kernel you were 
upgrading from and we'll all take a look-see

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[gentoo-user] Panic at boot time after update kernel to 2.6.20-r8.

2007-05-11 Thread David Harel

Greetings,


After installing gentoo-source-2.6.20-r8 I copied my current .config 
file to the new kernel and did make oldconfig. I had to do define only 
new properties of the new kernel and the rest was taken from the 
original config file however, at boot time I got panic halt on root 
mount stating that ext3 is not supported. Double check on support for 
ext3 is OK.



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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-27 Thread Tamas Sarga

On Sat, 22 Oct 2005, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

>
> direct experience.
> I have seen xine and mplayer break multiple times or KDE loosing its themes,
> because of qt updates or wesnoth. And that are the ones I remember without to
> much brain work.
> That is why I am healed from --deep updates
>

Hi,

Just a short side-note. If you don't use --deep, than you *should* see
the GLSAs careful, 'cause a library can has security hole and a
rock-solid backdoor is not a good thing.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Petteri Räty
Keats wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:11:06 -0300
> Allan Spagnol Comar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
>>My hole linux box has crashed 
>>I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
>>
>>it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
>>system is against me
>>I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
>>idea, my backups are unavailable now 
> 
> 
> 
> are u sure that you have enough disk space ? 
> an update of the system may download a lot of files... 
> it happens when i have no space left, nothing work the gentoo is not
> able to boot. i have to boot on rescue disk and make space... 
> 

For this reason I put every directory that can grow during normal
operations outside to root partition so that I can boot although some
partition gets full.

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[gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Keats
On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 16:11:06 -0300
Allan Spagnol Comar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My hole linux box has crashed 
> I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
> 
> it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
> system is against me
> I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
> idea, my backups are unavailable now 


are u sure that you have enough disk space ? 
an update of the system may download a lot of files... 
it happens when i have no space left, nothing work the gentoo is not
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Rumen Yotov
On Sat, 2005-10-22 at 14:01 -0200, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> thank you all guys !!!
> I understand now the complex resons to always have backups and test servers 
> 
> I am sorry to make such a mess at the list, it wasn´t my intantion,
> thank one more time for the attention that was spend on my trouble. I
> promise that in the next time I will make some more relevant posts.
> 
Hi,
A little OT here but i as am playing with Xen (virtualisation software),
think it might be used for testing before big upgrades are done
(specially on servers/important machines).
PS: no need for second machine, just another partition with the same
software incl. versions (a thought here: why not use rsync to update
this partition instead of again emerging the packages).
And please don't top-post, unofficial rule.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
thank you all guys !!!
I understand now the complex resons to always have backups and test servers 
I am sorry to make such a mess at the list, it wasn´t my intantion,
thank one more time for the attention that was spend on my trouble. I
promise that in the next time I will make some more relevant posts.


On 10/22/05, Holly Bostick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin schreef:
> > direct experience. I have seen xine and mplayer break multiple times
> > or KDE loosing its themes,
>
> Yeah, but mplayer breaks if your breathe on it too hard, and Xine is not
> all that much better (though better than gstreamer, and overall the best
> in terms of stability).
>
> New releases of KDE often are so buggy that you 1) *have* to upgrade
> whatever is available to get the bugfixes and 2) can't really be certain
> that any breakage is related to library updates (or worse yet, only
> *partial* library updates, not all relevant libraries, because all
> relevant libraries don't necessarily have updates available at the same
> time), rather than just one of the bugs.
>
> 'Loosing its themes' I've never seen (but then again I try to avoid
> using KDE as much as possible), but of all the things that KDE might
> (and has, in my experience) lose after a full, partial, or deep upgrade,
> "themes" are about the last on my "oh, no, I'm now hysterical" list. But
> that's just me.
>
> > because of qt updates or wesnoth. And that are the ones I remember
> > without to much brain work. That is why I am healed from --deep
> > updates
>
> OK. It's your box.
>
> In my opinion, it's impossible to avoid stuff breaking (on a
> Gentoo/source-based distro) box; libraries and applications depending on
> those libraries are *going* to be mis-matched at some point or another,
> sometimes quite often. It's usually temporary, and usually easy to fix:
> recompile the app against the  updated library, as I did yesterday for
> Beagle, or run .updater-- I just found there's an
> ocaml-updater script; who knew? or run the config utility for gcc, or
> java or whatever is the problem today. Or switch apps, which is a
> little-thought-of but often quite effective solution. Helps to be a bit
> flexible, though, of course, which everybody does not have the liberty
> to be. But if not, then just stick with stable and don't upgrade at all,
> --deep or otherwise.
>
> Holly
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Holly Bostick
Hemmann, Volker Armin schreef:
> direct experience. I have seen xine and mplayer break multiple times 
> or KDE loosing its themes,

Yeah, but mplayer breaks if your breathe on it too hard, and Xine is not
all that much better (though better than gstreamer, and overall the best
in terms of stability).

New releases of KDE often are so buggy that you 1) *have* to upgrade
whatever is available to get the bugfixes and 2) can't really be certain
that any breakage is related to library updates (or worse yet, only
*partial* library updates, not all relevant libraries, because all
relevant libraries don't necessarily have updates available at the same
time), rather than just one of the bugs.

'Loosing its themes' I've never seen (but then again I try to avoid
using KDE as much as possible), but of all the things that KDE might
(and has, in my experience) lose after a full, partial, or deep upgrade,
"themes" are about the last on my "oh, no, I'm now hysterical" list. But
that's just me.

> because of qt updates or wesnoth. And that are the ones I remember 
> without to much brain work. That is why I am healed from --deep 
> updates

OK. It's your box.

In my opinion, it's impossible to avoid stuff breaking (on a
Gentoo/source-based distro) box; libraries and applications depending on
those libraries are *going* to be mis-matched at some point or another,
sometimes quite often. It's usually temporary, and usually easy to fix:
recompile the app against the  updated library, as I did yesterday for
Beagle, or run .updater-- I just found there's an
ocaml-updater script; who knew? or run the config utility for gcc, or
java or whatever is the problem today. Or switch apps, which is a
little-thought-of but often quite effective solution. Helps to be a bit
flexible, though, of course, which everybody does not have the liberty
to be. But if not, then just stick with stable and don't upgrade at all,
--deep or otherwise.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 22 October 2005 14:26, Eddie Mihalow Jr wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > On Saturday 22 October 2005 02:37, Rafael Fernández López wrote:
> >>Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> >>>On Friday 21 October 2005 21:11, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> My hole linux box has crashed 
> I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
> 
> it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
> system is against me
> I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
> idea, my backups are unavailable now 
> >>>
> >>>what do you mean 'crashed'?
> >>>
> >>>does revdep-rebuilt still works?
> >>>
> >>>but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.
> >>
> >>Deep is almost imprescindible when upgrading. You have to upgrade
> >>dependencies too, or maybe your new and fresh app is built onto old
> >>libraries that can make it crash, or just going slower.
> >
> > --deep is totally superflous.
> > When something needs the latest libs, it will pull them in anyway.
> > So there is no need to install the latest version. Nobody said, that the
> > latest are always the fastest too.
> >
> > When nothing needs the latest stuff, why change the dependency of maybe
> > douzends of apps, only to have the latest version?
> >
> > A lot of times, this breaks stuff. Or does thinks make slower. Or make
> > some apps crashy&instabil.
> > Some apps even need a very small spectrum of versions - any change in the
> > libs, and boom, you have a memory-leaking crashy hog. Or at least
> > something that does not work like it should (like xine or mplayer, when
> > you update ffmpeg and transcode behind their backs).
> >
> > --deep does not solve problems, it generates them.
>
> Sorry, but I don't agree with this. I use -deep every day and have yet
> to have any of
> these so-called problems Mr. Volker is espousing. I have mplayer and
> xine and they both work fine.
> I wonder how you came to this conclusion-was it direct experience, or
> just banal thinking?
> Regards,

direct experience.
I have seen xine and mplayer break multiple times or KDE loosing its themes, 
because of qt updates or wesnoth. And that are the ones I remember without to 
much brain work.
That is why I am healed from --deep updates

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Matan Peled
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A. You're top posting

B. yeah, udev-070 is bad. Use udev-070-r1...

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Eddie Mihalow Jr

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

On Saturday 22 October 2005 02:37, Rafael Fernández López wrote:


Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:


On Friday 21 October 2005 21:11, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:


My hole linux box has crashed 
I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world

it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
system is against me
I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
idea, my backups are unavailable now 


what do you mean 'crashed'?

does revdep-rebuilt still works?

but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.


Deep is almost imprescindible when upgrading. You have to upgrade
dependencies too, or maybe your new and fresh app is built onto old
libraries that can make it crash, or just going slower.



--deep is totally superflous.
When something needs the latest libs, it will pull them in anyway.
So there is no need to install the latest version. Nobody said, that the 
latest are always the fastest too. 

When nothing needs the latest stuff, why change the dependency of maybe 
douzends of apps, only to have the latest version?


A lot of times, this breaks stuff. Or does thinks make slower. Or make some 
apps crashy&instabil.
Some apps even need a very small spectrum of versions - any change in the 
libs, and boom, you have a memory-leaking crashy hog. Or at least something 
that does not work like it should (like xine or mplayer, when you update 
ffmpeg and transcode behind their backs).


--deep does not solve problems, it generates them.

Sorry, but I don't agree with this. I use -deep every day and have yet 
to have any of
these so-called problems Mr. Volker is espousing. I have mplayer and 
xine and they both work fine.
I wonder how you came to this conclusion-was it direct experience, or 
just banal thinking?

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread brullo nulla
> because some apps (like, for example xine) doesn't like it, when some of their> dependencies get upgraded with a --deep world (like ffmpeg or transcode),
> while themselves are not recombiled.>> xine will not crash - but some video-filters will be gone.

Whoa. Now I know why my mplayer cannot read mpgs anymore. Thank you
guys. Anyway, I recompiled it a couple of days ago with a bunch of new
use flags, so I hope it will be fixed now.

 But it was the only problem I ever had with emerge -Du world. If
I can have a new lib that will fix bugs or improve something, I want
it. I won't bother recompiling some app that will complain, if needed.
But of course I'm talking of my desktop system, I think I would have a
very different approach for a production system.


Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-22 Thread Patrick Börjesson
On 05/10/22 00:45, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Friday 21 October 2005 22:13, Jeff Smelser wrote:
> > On Friday 21 October 2005 02:24 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > > but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.
> >
> > Why not? I use it here and I never get crashes.. One doesnt mean the other.
> >
> 
> because some apps (like, for example xine) doesn't like it, when some of 
> their 
> dependencies get upgraded with a --deep world (like ffmpeg or transcode), 
> while themselves are not recombiled.
> 
> xine will not crash - but some video-filters will be gone.
> 
> It is just not wise:
> App X linked against library L.
> Now you do an --update --deep world.
> lib L gets a new version L.1.1.
> But X does not recompiled, and funny things can happen now.

This reasoning is pretty much void when dealing with libraries, since
there's often more than one application depending on a particular
library. 

Example:
App A and app B link agains library L.
Run an 'emerge -u A' and app A, and library L gets upgraded.
App B is fucked in the same way as you having run an 'emerge -deep
world', since B is not recompiled but its dependency is.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 22 October 2005 02:37, Rafael Fernández López wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > On Friday 21 October 2005 21:11, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> >>My hole linux box has crashed 
> >>I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
> >>
> >>it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
> >>system is against me
> >>I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
> >>idea, my backups are unavailable now 
> >
> > what do you mean 'crashed'?
> >
> > does revdep-rebuilt still works?
> >
> > but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.
>
> Deep is almost imprescindible when upgrading. You have to upgrade
> dependencies too, or maybe your new and fresh app is built onto old
> libraries that can make it crash, or just going slower.

--deep is totally superflous.
When something needs the latest libs, it will pull them in anyway.
So there is no need to install the latest version. Nobody said, that the 
latest are always the fastest too. 

When nothing needs the latest stuff, why change the dependency of maybe 
douzends of apps, only to have the latest version?

A lot of times, this breaks stuff. Or does thinks make slower. Or make some 
apps crashy&instabil.
Some apps even need a very small spectrum of versions - any change in the 
libs, and boom, you have a memory-leaking crashy hog. Or at least something 
that does not work like it should (like xine or mplayer, when you update 
ffmpeg and transcode behind their backs).

--deep does not solve problems, it generates them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 22 October 2005 03:20, Jeff Smelser wrote:
> On Friday 21 October 2005 07:21 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > which a) does not catch all the cases
> > and b) would not be needed at all, if you don't do '--deep' updates.
>
> Your trolling, arnt you? Are you really so naive that you think not having
> --deep solves all your problems? You do realize what --deep does right?
>
> Jeff


I do.

You don't. 

Maybe you should re-read the documentation.
Than think about 'compile time dependency', 'runtime dependency' and 
'Version'.

I wish you good luck.


Oh,

and I never said, that it 'solves all problems'.
I say, not doing it, is keeping you away from certain problems.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Michael Crute
On 10/21/05, Jeff Smelser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Friday 21 October 2005 07:21 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:> which a) does not catch all the cases> and b) would not be needed at all, if you don't do '--deep' updates.Your trolling, arnt you? Are you really so naive that you think not having
--deep solves all your problems? You do realize what --deep does right
Nothing important, just updates all your
dependencies. Who needs up to date dependencies. Hell dependencies in
and of themselves are overrated, I don't use them at all.

Sorry, couldn't resist.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Michael Crute
On 10/21/05, Allan Spagnol Comar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
then after some fight and gentoo doc I got mysql back. after that wasapache time, all configuration has changed and I got to go as crasy tofind where it was...
Which is why you should ALWAYS have a backup of /etc. Just incase. I
have a con job that tars up /etc and puts it in root's home every few
days and it has saved my butt quite a few times.

And as somebody else said let this be a good (albeit tough) lesson that
you should never run updates on a production server that you haven't
tested on at least a development box.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Friday 21 October 2005 07:21 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

> which a) does not catch all the cases
> and b) would not be needed at all, if you don't do '--deep' updates.

Your trolling, arnt you? Are you really so naive that you think not having 
--deep solves all your problems? You do realize what --deep does right?

Jeff
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Rafael Fernández López
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Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> On Friday 21 October 2005 21:11, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> 
>>My hole linux box has crashed 
>>I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
>>
>>it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
>>system is against me
>>I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
>>idea, my backups are unavailable now 
> 
> 
> what do you mean 'crashed'?
> 
> does revdep-rebuilt still works?
> 
> but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.

Deep is almost imprescindible when upgrading. You have to upgrade
dependencies too, or maybe your new and fresh app is built onto old
libraries that can make it crash, or just going slower.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 22 October 2005 02:10, Richard Fish wrote:
> Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> >On Friday 21 October 2005 22:13, Jeff Smelser wrote:
> >>On Friday 21 October 2005 02:24 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> >>>what do you mean 'crashed'?
> >>>
> >>>does revdep-rebuilt still works?
> >>>
> >>>but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.
> >>
> >>Why not? I use it here and I never get crashes.. One doesnt mean the
> >> other.
> >
> >because some apps (like, for example xine) doesn't like it, when some of
> > their dependencies get upgraded with a --deep world (like ffmpeg or
> > transcode), while themselves are not recombiled.
> >
> >xine will not crash - but some video-filters will be gone.
> >
> >It is just not wise:
> >App X linked against library L.
> >Now you do an --update --deep world.
> >lib L gets a new version L.1.1.
> >But X does not recompiled, and funny things can happen now.
>
> revdep-rebuild

which a) does not catch all the cases
and b) would not be needed at all, if you don't do '--deep' updates.
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Richard Fish

Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:


On Friday 21 October 2005 22:13, Jeff Smelser wrote:
 


On Friday 21 October 2005 02:24 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
   


what do you mean 'crashed'?

does revdep-rebuilt still works?

but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.
 


Why not? I use it here and I never get crashes.. One doesnt mean the other.

   



because some apps (like, for example xine) doesn't like it, when some of their 
dependencies get upgraded with a --deep world (like ffmpeg or transcode), 
while themselves are not recombiled.


xine will not crash - but some video-filters will be gone.

It is just not wise:
App X linked against library L.
Now you do an --update --deep world.
lib L gets a new version L.1.1.
But X does not recompiled, and funny things can happen now.
 



revdep-rebuild

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 21 October 2005 22:13, Jeff Smelser wrote:
> On Friday 21 October 2005 02:24 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
> > what do you mean 'crashed'?
> >
> > does revdep-rebuilt still works?
> >
> > but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.
>
> Why not? I use it here and I never get crashes.. One doesnt mean the other.
>

because some apps (like, for example xine) doesn't like it, when some of their 
dependencies get upgraded with a --deep world (like ffmpeg or transcode), 
while themselves are not recombiled.

xine will not crash - but some video-filters will be gone.

It is just not wise:
App X linked against library L.
Now you do an --update --deep world.
lib L gets a new version L.1.1.
But X does not recompiled, and funny things can happen now.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Dmitry S. Makovey
On October 21, 2005 02:30 pm, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> sorry by the way I put it Jeff I got to angry when All my
> services stop working after an ( what should be simple ) update
> .

Allan ,don't get me wrong - I"m not trying to "pin" you, I just want 
to point out that computers and software tend to fail, so whenever 
you're updating/upgrading one or the other you *have to* have backup 
plan. In most scenarios having production machine means that you 
*have to* have development machine working in parallel (ideally 
identical to production machine in all respects) - any changes to 
production machine should be tried/tested on development machine 
first. Being sysadmin for about 7 years now I know that things do 
happen and you have to be ready/prepeared for everything. 

Another point is to go with the "lowest resistance" path - update only 
GLSA's and do full-blown upgrades only when you plan them carefully 
and test'em out on development box.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Friday 21 October 2005 03:30 pm, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> sorry by the way I put it Jeff I got to angry when All my services
> stop working after an ( what should be simple ) update .

Actually, I wasn't referring to your email, I was referring to Hemmann's.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
sorry by the way I put it Jeff I got to angry when All my services
stop working after an ( what should be simple ) update .

this update had stop all services I got on this box, that was an web
server for nagios and mantis, and dns server for private net  the
database to nagios and mantis...

the first thing was the udev that stop working and I could not boot my
machine, it got a sgmentation fault at boot... got my gentoo install
disk and downgrade udev it got back to work.

then after some fight and gentoo doc I got mysql back. after that was
apache time, all configuration has changed and I got to go as crasy to
find where it was...

if isn´t that enough the named service was running and not responding 

this was really a tought upgrade  ( snip ) sorry again to pass
information incomplete to the list and overreact but I was trully in
panic after 2 hours trying to got the system back.


On 10/21/05, Jeff Smelser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Friday 21 October 2005 02:24 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:
>
> > what do you mean 'crashed'?
> >
> > does revdep-rebuilt still works?
> >
> > but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.
>
> Why not? I use it here and I never get crashes.. One doesnt mean the other.
>
> Jeff
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Jeff Smelser
On Friday 21 October 2005 02:24 pm, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote:

> what do you mean 'crashed'?
>
> does revdep-rebuilt still works?
>
> but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.

Why not? I use it here and I never get crashes.. One doesnt mean the other.

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
mantis now :(

when I try to log I got this error:

APPLICATION ERROR #401

Database query failed. Error received from database was #1054: Unknown
column 'lost_password_in_progress_count' in 'field list' for the
query: UPDATE mantis_user_table
SET lost_password_in_progress_count=0
WHERE id='3'


any ideas ?

On 10/21/05, Dave Nebinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > MySQL upgrade was painful, but the upgrade guide given
> > in the einfo worked perfectly (THANK YOU Doc Team!).
>
> Not so painless on my end...
>
> Revdep-rebuild failed to identify that postfix and dspam were (somehow)
> linked against missing mysql 4 libs.  Had to re-emerge them manually
> (after realizing that the mail server was not receiving mail most of the
> day), but after that things seem to be fine wrt the latest batch of
> updates.
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
Got my named to work. problem on listen-on  removed now it works

On 10/21/05, Allan Spagnol Comar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> true, doc team help with mysql upgrade.
>
> On 10/21/05, Roy Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Boot off of LiveCD, chroot, start repairing...
> >
> > When I've hosed my system, I go back to the Gentoo Handbook:
> >
> >   http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml
> >
> > to get into the chroot.
> >
> > Then look in the logs (/var/log/*) for hints...
> >
> > Always a good idea to dispatch-conf, revdep-rebuild, revdep-rebuild.
> >
> > So far I haven't hosed it bad enough to need a reinstall...
> >
> > MySQL upgrade was painful, but the upgrade guide given
> > in the einfo worked perfectly (THANK YOU Doc Team!).
> >
> > HTH,
> > Roy
> >
> > Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> >
> > >My hole linux box has crashed 
> > >I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
> > >
> > >it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
> > >system is against me
> > >I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
> > >idea, my backups are unavailable now 
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> >
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Dave Nebinger
> MySQL upgrade was painful, but the upgrade guide given
> in the einfo worked perfectly (THANK YOU Doc Team!).

Not so painless on my end...

Revdep-rebuild failed to identify that postfix and dspam were (somehow)
linked against missing mysql 4 libs.  Had to re-emerge them manually
(after realizing that the mail server was not receiving mail most of the
day), but after that things seem to be fine wrt the latest batch of
updates.


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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
true, doc team help with mysql upgrade.

On 10/21/05, Roy Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Boot off of LiveCD, chroot, start repairing...
>
> When I've hosed my system, I go back to the Gentoo Handbook:
>
>   http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml
>
> to get into the chroot.
>
> Then look in the logs (/var/log/*) for hints...
>
> Always a good idea to dispatch-conf, revdep-rebuild, revdep-rebuild.
>
> So far I haven't hosed it bad enough to need a reinstall...
>
> MySQL upgrade was painful, but the upgrade guide given
> in the einfo worked perfectly (THANK YOU Doc Team!).
>
> HTH,
> Roy
>
> Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
>
> >My hole linux box has crashed 
> >I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
> >
> >it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
> >system is against me
> >I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
> >idea, my backups are unavailable now 
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
One more info, udev had crashed and I have to downgrade from 7.0 to
6.8-r1 to get the system to boot

On 10/21/05, Allan Spagnol Comar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sorry for the lack of details, I got stunned by the upgrade  I had
> done it a lot before and never got such impact
>
> one of my biggest problem now is the bind. it runs but isn´t
> enabled to anyone ...
>
>
> On 10/21/05, Allan Spagnol Comar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ok,
> >
> > apache, mysql, nagios are seams to be running ok now.
> > mantis - cannot autenticate users.
> > bind - isn´t working, when i run nslookup it got connection refused
> >
> > :(
> >
> > revdeprebuild has fixed mysql .
> >
> >
> > On 10/21/05, Peter Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Allan Spagnol Comar said:
> > > > My hole linux box has crashed 
> > > > I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
> > > >
> > > > it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
> > > > system is against me
> > > > I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
> > > > idea, my backups are unavailable now 
> > >
> > > Perhaps if you can tell us more about what you did, what got updated,
> > > what went wrong, what was supposed to happen, etc., we could figure out
> > > how to fix it.
> > >
> > > --Peter
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> > >
> >
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
sorry for the lack of details, I got stunned by the upgrade  I had
done it a lot before and never got such impact

one of my biggest problem now is the bind. it runs but isn´t
enabled to anyone ...


On 10/21/05, Allan Spagnol Comar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ok,
>
> apache, mysql, nagios are seams to be running ok now.
> mantis - cannot autenticate users.
> bind - isn´t working, when i run nslookup it got connection refused
>
> :(
>
> revdeprebuild has fixed mysql .
>
>
> On 10/21/05, Peter Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Allan Spagnol Comar said:
> > > My hole linux box has crashed 
> > > I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
> > >
> > > it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
> > > system is against me
> > > I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
> > > idea, my backups are unavailable now 
> >
> > Perhaps if you can tell us more about what you did, what got updated,
> > what went wrong, what was supposed to happen, etc., we could figure out
> > how to fix it.
> >
> > --Peter
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
ok,

apache, mysql, nagios are seams to be running ok now.
mantis - cannot autenticate users.
bind - isn´t working, when i run nslookup it got connection refused

:(

revdeprebuild has fixed mysql .


On 10/21/05, Peter Gordon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Allan Spagnol Comar said:
> > My hole linux box has crashed 
> > I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
> >
> > it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
> > system is against me
> > I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
> > idea, my backups are unavailable now 
>
> Perhaps if you can tell us more about what you did, what got updated,
> what went wrong, what was supposed to happen, etc., we could figure out
> how to fix it.
>
> --Peter
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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Roy Wright

Boot off of LiveCD, chroot, start repairing...

When I've hosed my system, I go back to the Gentoo Handbook:

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml

to get into the chroot.

Then look in the logs (/var/log/*) for hints...

Always a good idea to dispatch-conf, revdep-rebuild, revdep-rebuild.

So far I haven't hosed it bad enough to need a reinstall...

MySQL upgrade was painful, but the upgrade guide given
in the einfo worked perfectly (THANK YOU Doc Team!).

HTH,
Roy

Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:


My hole linux box has crashed 
I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world

it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
system is against me
I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
idea, my backups are unavailable now 

 


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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 10/21/05, Allan Spagnol Comar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My hole linux box has crashed 
> I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world

That is as informative as my girlfriend saying "If you don't know why
am I mad, it won't be me telling you".

> it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
> system is against me

You must tell us exactly WHAT is going on, are your bootloader up?
What about the kernel, it initiates or not? The errors or whatever is
troubling you come before or after init? Services? Login?

> I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
> idea, my backups are unavailable now 
>

Always the last resort, never used it with Gentoo...

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Michael Crute
On 10/21/05, Allan Spagnol Comar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
My hole linux box has crashed I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du worldit update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my holesystem is against meI think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
idea, my backups are unavailable now What exactly is wrong? "My whole system is against me" doesn't give people too much to go on. Does it boot? Are services not starting? What software versions are you running? What specific error codes are you getting?
-Mike-- Michael E. CruteSoftware DeveloperSoftGroup Development CorporationLinux, because reboots are for installing hardware."In a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?"


Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Peter Gordon
Allan Spagnol Comar said:
> My hole linux box has crashed 
> I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
>
> it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
> system is against me
> I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
> idea, my backups are unavailable now 

Perhaps if you can tell us more about what you did, what got updated,
what went wrong, what was supposed to happen, etc., we could figure out
how to fix it.

--Peter

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Re: [gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 21 October 2005 21:11, Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
> My hole linux box has crashed 
> I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world
>
> it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
> system is against me
> I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
> idea, my backups are unavailable now 

what do you mean 'crashed'?

does revdep-rebuilt still works?

but at least now you know why you should not use --deep.
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[gentoo-user] PANIC !!!!

2005-10-21 Thread Allan Spagnol Comar
My hole linux box has crashed 
I made a system update yesterday with emerge -Du world

it update my apache, mantis, nagios, bind, mysql. today my hole
system is against me
I think in reinstall the full system  has any one got a better
idea, my backups are unavailable now 

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