Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-16 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi,
  just for information, i report that i've filed a bug on bugzilla:

http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=9167

regards,
m

On 10/13/07, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Beso,
yes i'm always staying in powersave mode.. but in any case the
 CPU temperature tends to increase. I hope that the ACPI guys will work
 on this (hoping i'm not the only one experiencing these problems). The
 fans unfortunately are masked to the user in most Acer laptops, and
 they are controlled fully by ACPI.

 Thanks again,
 m

 On 10/13/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i think that you'll have to wait a little more and always stay aware when
  using the pc till acpi supports it.
  i'd recommend to stay on powersave when using the processor extensively so
  that you'd not incur in hardware errors and failures. and it the fan is not
  starting try to modify it by command prompt via echo on 
  /proc/acpi/fan/..
  this will work at least the thermal doesn't reach the state when it would
  stop the fan, but since you don't have that point and that you cannot read
  temperature starting it via echo on should always stay on. you'd have some
  noise maybe, but you'd be sure that the processor would not run overheat.
  and hope that the acpi people would fix that in the near future.
  i'm sorry for not being able to help you more.
  and as an advice for the future: before getting a notebook in the future
  have some surf on the web to see if it's fully supported by linux (acer
  sells linux only notebooks actually but only from taiwan). i had my linux
  notebook not working with linux for 5-6 months and yet i had to change the
  wireless since it wasn't supported after almost 2 years. for what i know
  dell, hp and compaq are quite well supported.
 

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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-13 Thread Marco Calviani
Just to give a short update:
1) no luck with the acer_acpi module: it does not load in the system,
as the developer is having a look at it. However he told me that the
module can do practically nothing on the thermal zone since this last
point is controlled fully by ACPI
2) i've tried to modify the DSDT table: it had errors, but also after
correction the system behave in practically the same way. I've mailed
to the acpi-linux mailing list, hoping that the acpi gurus can try to
solve the issue.
As far as i understand now it is just a matter of ACPI implementation.

Regards,
m

On 10/11/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 normally all acer have dsdt problems and don't work unless you load
 acer_acpi.
 now, in the portage tree there's only the 0.8.2 version, so you have to go
 here:

  http://code.google.com/p/aceracpi/

 download the latest version and install it. there's a 5720 product listed
 (under travelmate and not aspire, but it may have been an error). simply
 search for acer_acpi in the /lib/modules/2.6.22-gentoo-r8 and delete it then
 do a depmod -a and update the modules installed and retry loading the newly
 compiled driver. if you manage to get it working in this way ok, if not try
 contacting the guy maintaing the aceracpi module and tell him about you
 problems. he may be of help.


 2007/10/11, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Beso,
 i have an Acer Aspire 5720. I've tried with the acer_acpi, it
  compiles well but when it comes to loading it fails, saying
  No or unsupported WMI interface, unable to load.
 
  However as far as i can understood, this module deals with issues of
  buttons and hotkey not with ACPI issues.
 
  Yes, my DSDT failed during recompiling, but i have managed to solve
  the issues, and now it compiled well (with warning but i'm not
  caring). I'll try to recompile the new DSDT in the kernel, maybe it
  could help (but i'm not sure).
 
  Regards,
  m
 
  On 10/11/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   yep you're right i cannot modify my trippoints so this file cannot
 be
   modified
   i don't think that it's random, since it is 40 c try doing some
   compiling or so and see if it goes up and then stop compiling and do
 nothing
   and see if it goes down this will tell you if thermal is working
   for dsdt problem you have follow this guide:
   http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems
   if it gives you errors when recompiling dsdt then it may be a dsdt
 problem,
   but if it gives you no problem recompiling it then it may be that you
 need
   some additional modules like asus_acpi or ibm or toshiba ones based on
 your
   pc model. i don't know what you're using (i've managed to see some
 lenovo,
   asus toshiba and acer models around and for what i know every one of
 then
   needs an additional acpi module to have it work correctly). that was why
   i've asked you for your brand and model name.
  
   2007/10/11, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Beso,
   i've tried with your trip_points modification but it gives this
 error:
   
bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
   
like i'm not able to write on that file.
   
And of course acpitool gives me a random ACPI temperature:
   
  Battery #1 : charged
  AC adapter : on-line
  Thermal zone 1 : ok, 40 C
   
PS: i followed all your suggestions concerning the microcode and fan
option in the kernel.
Could this be a problem of DSDT?
   
regards,
m
   
On 10/10/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


 2007/10/10, Marco Calviani  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Beso,
sorry i misunderstood your suggestion. I did what you suggest
 and
  this is the result of the trip_points:
 
  critical (S5):  100C

 wow you don't have anything that says to the cpu to slow down
 when
   it
 reaches some point
 now, to add some other trip points you have to copy these in a
 konsole
   with
 root priviledges:
 echo passive: 78 C: tc1=3 tc2=1 tsp=150
 devices=CPU0 \
 active[0]:   68 C: devices= FN1 \
 active[1]:   58 C: devices= FN2 
 /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/trip_points

 then do a cat on the thermal_zone/TZ0/trip_points to see if you've
 added
   the
 lines for passive and active  lines.
 that means that when your thermal reaches 78 degrees it will slow
 down
   the
 processor. from 58 to 68 it will turn on the fan but don't turn down
 the
 speed of the processor, below 58 it will turn off the fan.
 
 

  which i suppose is the reason why at that temperature the laptop
   switch
 off.
  So, nothing except for the critical state. Should i have to add
 there
 something?

 if the pc turns down then it can read from somewhere the actual
 thermal
 point. you try to see after actually setting the things i've just
 said,
   if
 your pc is behaving as it should. 

Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-13 Thread Marco Calviani
Beso,
   yes i'm always staying in powersave mode.. but in any case the
CPU temperature tends to increase. I hope that the ACPI guys will work
on this (hoping i'm not the only one experiencing these problems). The
fans unfortunately are masked to the user in most Acer laptops, and
they are controlled fully by ACPI.

Thanks again,
m

On 10/13/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i think that you'll have to wait a little more and always stay aware when
 using the pc till acpi supports it.
 i'd recommend to stay on powersave when using the processor extensively so
 that you'd not incur in hardware errors and failures. and it the fan is not
 starting try to modify it by command prompt via echo on 
 /proc/acpi/fan/..
 this will work at least the thermal doesn't reach the state when it would
 stop the fan, but since you don't have that point and that you cannot read
 temperature starting it via echo on should always stay on. you'd have some
 noise maybe, but you'd be sure that the processor would not run overheat.
 and hope that the acpi people would fix that in the near future.
 i'm sorry for not being able to help you more.
 and as an advice for the future: before getting a notebook in the future
 have some surf on the web to see if it's fully supported by linux (acer
 sells linux only notebooks actually but only from taiwan). i had my linux
 notebook not working with linux for 5-6 months and yet i had to change the
 wireless since it wasn't supported after almost 2 years. for what i know
 dell, hp and compaq are quite well supported.

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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-11 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Beso,
   i've tried with your trip_points modification but it gives this error:

bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument

like i'm not able to write on that file.

And of course acpitool gives me a random ACPI temperature:

  Battery #1 : charged
  AC adapter : on-line
  Thermal zone 1 : ok, 40 C

PS: i followed all your suggestions concerning the microcode and fan
option in the kernel.
Could this be a problem of DSDT?

regards,
m

On 10/10/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 2007/10/10, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Beso,
sorry i misunderstood your suggestion. I did what you suggest and
  this is the result of the trip_points:
 
  critical (S5):  100C

 wow you don't have anything that says to the cpu to slow down when it
 reaches some point
 now, to add some other trip points you have to copy these in a konsole with
 root priviledges:
 echo passive: 78 C: tc1=3 tc2=1 tsp=150 devices=CPU0 \
 active[0]:   68 C: devices= FN1 \
 active[1]:   58 C: devices= FN2 
 /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/trip_points

 then do a cat on the thermal_zone/TZ0/trip_points to see if you've added the
 lines for passive and active  lines.
 that means that when your thermal reaches 78 degrees it will slow down the
 processor. from 58 to 68 it will turn on the fan but don't turn down the
 speed of the processor, below 58 it will turn off the fan.
 
 

  which i suppose is the reason why at that temperature the laptop switch
 off.
  So, nothing except for the critical state. Should i have to add there
 something?

 if the pc turns down then it can read from somewhere the actual thermal
 point. you try to see after actually setting the things i've just said, if
 your pc is behaving as it should. remember to also turn on the polling
 frequency. without it it will not look for thermal changes. and remember to
 actually compile the mce and speedstep features in the kernel and not as
 module and reboot and then set the things i've mentioned. after that type
 acpitool (it should be installed by default with the acpi package) and see
 what it says. it should give something like this:

Battery #1 : charging, 46.00%, 01:17:04
AC adapter : on-line
Thermal zone 1 : activ, 58 C

 it indicates, as you can see not only the battery and ac status but also the
 current processor mode (active) and the current thermal temperature if
 you don't have acpitool try acpi -t (you'll surely have either one or the
 other) and it should indicate the thermal state and temperature. if this
 command don't give you these infos then you'll have to be very careful using
 your pc since acpi probably don't support santarosa well. you should then
 unmask newer acpi in portage (adding acpi in /etc/package.keywords) and try
 with the new acpi ( 1.0.6).
 you may need some additional acpi modules, like ibm_acpi for example, but
 that depends on your's pc brand. i'm looking around to see if there were
 someone that had problems with santarosa and linux acpi, but for the moment
 i couldn't find something useful. try what i've said and see if the things
 work. if they work then append the tweak in some script that starts at boot
 like the top of xdm script and you'll have a functional system. let me know
 if you were succesful on that.


  An additional problem is this:
  doing a
  $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/temperature
  it gives only a:
 
  temperature: 0C
 
  My question is:
  even if i change the polling frequency, how the fan can start if the
  temperature gives 0??
  Do you know if it's possible to link the fan start with the core
  temperature instead of the ACPI thermal zone?

 probably the fan don't start since  you have it as a module. i've curently
 had the same problem which solved by compiling it integrated in the kernel.
 the fan in your case should always be on, not always be off

 
  Regards,
  m
 
  
   thats why i told you to do this commanda:
echo 2 seconds 
   /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/polling:frequency
   
this enables the polling of your thermal every 2 seconds. this should
 be
   enough.
   do you have the other file that i mentioned:
/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/trip_points ?!
   this sets the trip points for your processor. whitout it you governor
 cannot
   understand what to do even if it polls right.
  
   as for the kernel thigs, set these options:
   select processor type: intel core2 instead of normal x86
   CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO=y instead of m
   CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y instead of m
   CONFIG_MICROCODE=y instead of m (for what i know cpu micocode is needed
 on
   intels)
   CONFIG_K8_NUMA=n instead of y (this should be the amdk8 numa, that you
   should not need. if it's not then let him be)
   CONFIG_X86_MCE_AMD=n instead of y (you don't need amd mce features since
   they are not included into intel cpus)
   CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32 -- this leaves me a little dazzled: do you really
 have 32
   cpus in your core?! 

Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-11 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Beso,
   i have an Acer Aspire 5720. I've tried with the acer_acpi, it
compiles well but when it comes to loading it fails, saying
No or unsupported WMI interface, unable to load.

However as far as i can understood, this module deals with issues of
buttons and hotkey not with ACPI issues.

Yes, my DSDT failed during recompiling, but i have managed to solve
the issues, and now it compiled well (with warning but i'm not
caring). I'll try to recompile the new DSDT in the kernel, maybe it
could help (but i'm not sure).

Regards,
m

On 10/11/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 yep you're right i cannot modify my trippoints so this file cannot be
 modified
 i don't think that it's random, since it is 40 c try doing some
 compiling or so and see if it goes up and then stop compiling and do nothing
 and see if it goes down this will tell you if thermal is working
 for dsdt problem you have follow this guide:
 http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems
 if it gives you errors when recompiling dsdt then it may be a dsdt problem,
 but if it gives you no problem recompiling it then it may be that you need
 some additional modules like asus_acpi or ibm or toshiba ones based on your
 pc model. i don't know what you're using (i've managed to see some lenovo,
 asus toshiba and acer models around and for what i know every one of then
 needs an additional acpi module to have it work correctly). that was why
 i've asked you for your brand and model name.

 2007/10/11, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Beso,
 i've tried with your trip_points modification but it gives this error:
 
  bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
 
  like i'm not able to write on that file.
 
  And of course acpitool gives me a random ACPI temperature:
 
Battery #1 : charged
AC adapter : on-line
Thermal zone 1 : ok, 40 C
 
  PS: i followed all your suggestions concerning the microcode and fan
  option in the kernel.
  Could this be a problem of DSDT?
 
  regards,
  m
 
  On 10/10/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   2007/10/10, Marco Calviani  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Beso,
  sorry i misunderstood your suggestion. I did what you suggest and
this is the result of the trip_points:
   
critical (S5):  100C
  
   wow you don't have anything that says to the cpu to slow down when
 it
   reaches some point
   now, to add some other trip points you have to copy these in a konsole
 with
   root priviledges:
   echo passive: 78 C: tc1=3 tc2=1 tsp=150 devices=CPU0 \
   active[0]:   68 C: devices= FN1 \
   active[1]:   58 C: devices= FN2 
   /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/trip_points
  
   then do a cat on the thermal_zone/TZ0/trip_points to see if you've added
 the
   lines for passive and active  lines.
   that means that when your thermal reaches 78 degrees it will slow down
 the
   processor. from 58 to 68 it will turn on the fan but don't turn down the
   speed of the processor, below 58 it will turn off the fan.
   
   
  
which i suppose is the reason why at that temperature the laptop
 switch
   off.
So, nothing except for the critical state. Should i have to add there
   something?
  
   if the pc turns down then it can read from somewhere the actual thermal
   point. you try to see after actually setting the things i've just said,
 if
   your pc is behaving as it should. remember to also turn on the polling
   frequency. without it it will not look for thermal changes. and remember
 to
   actually compile the mce and speedstep features in the kernel and not as
   module and reboot and then set the things i've mentioned. after that
 type
   acpitool (it should be installed by default with the acpi package) and
 see
   what it says. it should give something like this:
  
  Battery #1 : charging, 46.00%, 01:17:04
  AC adapter : on-line
  Thermal zone 1 : activ, 58 C
  
   it indicates, as you can see not only the battery and ac status but also
 the
   current processor mode (active) and the current thermal temperature
 if
   you don't have acpitool try acpi -t (you'll surely have either one or
 the
   other) and it should indicate the thermal state and temperature. if this
   command don't give you these infos then you'll have to be very careful
 using
   your pc since acpi probably don't support santarosa well. you should
 then
   unmask newer acpi in portage (adding acpi in /etc/package.keywords) and
 try
   with the new acpi ( 1.0.6).
   you may need some additional acpi modules, like ibm_acpi for example,
 but
   that depends on your's pc brand. i'm looking around to see if there were
   someone that had problems with santarosa and linux acpi, but for the
 moment
   i couldn't find something useful. try what i've said and see if the
 things
   work. if they work then append the tweak in some script that starts at
 boot
   like the top of xdm script and you'll have a functional system. 

Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-11 Thread Marco Calviani
As far as i know unfortunately the Travelmate 5720 exists, together
with the entry level Aspire 5720... I've tried also the new version
and the load error appears at the same level.
I've mailed Carlos of acer-acpi, let's see what comes out.

Thanks again for your help,
i'll let you know about the improvement of this situation,
m


On 10/11/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 normally all acer have dsdt problems and don't work unless you load
 acer_acpi.
 now, in the portage tree there's only the 0.8.2 version, so you have to go
 here:

  http://code.google.com/p/aceracpi/

 download the latest version and install it. there's a 5720 product listed
 (under travelmate and not aspire, but it may have been an error). simply
 search for acer_acpi in the /lib/modules/2.6.22-gentoo-r8 and delete it then
 do a depmod -a and update the modules installed and retry loading the newly
 compiled driver. if you manage to get it working in this way ok, if not try
 contacting the guy maintaing the aceracpi module and tell him about you
 problems. he may be of help.


 2007/10/11, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Beso,
 i have an Acer Aspire 5720. I've tried with the acer_acpi, it
  compiles well but when it comes to loading it fails, saying
  No or unsupported WMI interface, unable to load.
 
  However as far as i can understood, this module deals with issues of
  buttons and hotkey not with ACPI issues.
 
  Yes, my DSDT failed during recompiling, but i have managed to solve
  the issues, and now it compiled well (with warning but i'm not
  caring). I'll try to recompile the new DSDT in the kernel, maybe it
  could help (but i'm not sure).
 
  Regards,
  m
 
  On 10/11/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   yep you're right i cannot modify my trippoints so this file cannot
 be
   modified
   i don't think that it's random, since it is 40 c try doing some
   compiling or so and see if it goes up and then stop compiling and do
 nothing
   and see if it goes down this will tell you if thermal is working
   for dsdt problem you have follow this guide:
   http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Fix_Common_ACPI_Problems
   if it gives you errors when recompiling dsdt then it may be a dsdt
 problem,
   but if it gives you no problem recompiling it then it may be that you
 need
   some additional modules like asus_acpi or ibm or toshiba ones based on
 your
   pc model. i don't know what you're using (i've managed to see some
 lenovo,
   asus toshiba and acer models around and for what i know every one of
 then
   needs an additional acpi module to have it work correctly). that was why
   i've asked you for your brand and model name.
  
   2007/10/11, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi Beso,
   i've tried with your trip_points modification but it gives this
 error:
   
bash: echo: write error: Invalid argument
   
like i'm not able to write on that file.
   
And of course acpitool gives me a random ACPI temperature:
   
  Battery #1 : charged
  AC adapter : on-line
  Thermal zone 1 : ok, 40 C
   
PS: i followed all your suggestions concerning the microcode and fan
option in the kernel.
Could this be a problem of DSDT?
   
regards,
m
   
On 10/10/07, Beso [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


 2007/10/10, Marco Calviani  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi Beso,
sorry i misunderstood your suggestion. I did what you suggest
 and
  this is the result of the trip_points:
 
  critical (S5):  100C

 wow you don't have anything that says to the cpu to slow down
 when
   it
 reaches some point
 now, to add some other trip points you have to copy these in a
 konsole
   with
 root priviledges:
 echo passive: 78 C: tc1=3 tc2=1 tsp=150
 devices=CPU0 \
 active[0]:   68 C: devices= FN1 \
 active[1]:   58 C: devices= FN2 
 /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/trip_points

 then do a cat on the thermal_zone/TZ0/trip_points to see if you've
 added
   the
 lines for passive and active  lines.
 that means that when your thermal reaches 78 degrees it will slow
 down
   the
 processor. from 58 to 68 it will turn on the fan but don't turn down
 the
 speed of the processor, below 58 it will turn off the fan.
 
 

  which i suppose is the reason why at that temperature the laptop
   switch
 off.
  So, nothing except for the critical state. Should i have to add
 there
 something?

 if the pc turns down then it can read from somewhere the actual
 thermal
 point. you try to see after actually setting the things i've just
 said,
   if
 your pc is behaving as it should. remember to also turn on the
 polling
 frequency. without it it will not look for thermal changes. and
 remember
   to
 actually compile the mce and speedstep features in the kernel and
 not as
 module and reboot and then set the things i've 

Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-10 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Volker,
  yes i can imagine there could be something wrong with ACPI, but how
can i recognize it? What is fancontrol?

m

 ACPI. You might be missing some options there. Or something else. Are you
 using fancontrol? If yes, try without, if no, try with it ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2007, Marco Calviani wrote:
   yes i can imagine there could be something wrong with ACPI, but how
 can i recognize it?

posting your config? make menuconfig and reading the help-text to all the 
acpi-options?

 What is fancontrol? 

a nice tool, included into lm_sensors. pwmconfig to configure 
it /etc/init.d/fancontrol start, to start it. If everything works, it will 
spin the fans up/down when the temperature rises/goes down.

I have it running on my desktop and it is great - 1000rpm instead of 3000 at 
the moment.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-10 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Volker,
  i'm attaching my kernel .config. As you can see all the ACPI related
points are enabled.

 posting your config? make menuconfig and reading the help-text to all the
 acpi-options?


Thanks, i've found fancontrol, but since the laptop lacks some chipset
to control the fan itself, the /etc/fancontrol is not created.

I've realized that the temperature given in the
/proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/temperature is more or less random at a
given machine startup and it does not change while the machine is on.
When it start at a temperature above 60C, the fan starts (and never
switch off) but the cores temperature remains low (~35C). If it's 0C
or 50C or something below this threshold, the fan does not switch on
and the core temp increases up to 100C.
It would be nice to be able to link the fan control directly with the
coretemp and not with the ACPI thermal zone

m
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2007, Marco Calviani wrote:
 Sorry i missed the attachment.

 regards,
 m


CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=m

the module is loaded, right? does anything change, when you compile it into 
the kernel? I have to admit - I don't know anything about laptops...
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-10 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi Beso,
  sorry i misunderstood your suggestion. I did what you suggest and
this is the result of the trip_points:

critical (S5):  100C

which i suppose is the reason why at that temperature the laptop switch off.
So, nothing except for the critical state. Should i have to add there something?

An additional problem is this:
doing a
$ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/temperature
it gives only a:

temperature: 0C

My question is:
even if i change the polling frequency, how the fan can start if the
temperature gives 0??
Do you know if it's possible to link the fan start with the core
temperature instead of the ACPI thermal zone?

Regards,
m


 thats why i told you to do this commanda:
  echo 2 seconds 
 /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/polling:frequency
 
  this enables the polling of your thermal every 2 seconds. this should be
 enough.
 do you have the other file that i mentioned:
  /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/trip_points ?!
 this sets the trip points for your processor. whitout it you governor cannot
 understand what to do even if it polls right.

 as for the kernel thigs, set these options:
 select processor type: intel core2 instead of normal x86
 CONFIG_X86_SPEEDSTEP_CENTRINO=y instead of m
 CONFIG_ACPI_FAN=y instead of m
 CONFIG_MICROCODE=y instead of m (for what i know cpu micocode is needed on
 intels)
 CONFIG_K8_NUMA=n instead of y (this should be the amdk8 numa, that you
 should not need. if it's not then let him be)
 CONFIG_X86_MCE_AMD=n instead of y (you don't need amd mce features since
 they are not included into intel cpus)
 CONFIG_NR_CPUS=32 -- this leaves me a little dazzled: do you really have 32
 cpus in your core?! for what i know this sets the real number of cpus inside
 the kernel, but i might be wrong. so if this is really what i think it is,
 ie the real nr of cpus (not virtual ones) set this to 2 or 4 based on your
 cpu cores.
 CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU=n instead of y (i don't really think that you'll unplug
 your cpu from your laptop when the laptop is still running considering that
 you don't use multi cpus but a single multicore cpu. the same goes for
 memory hotplug: i don't think that your laptop supports it, so just disable
 it.)
 for what i have seen the acpi problems may be due to a failure in loading
 the intel speedstep module. if you look into the modules loaded (lsmod) you
 should not see it. so it's better to insert it directly in the kernel, since
 it is one of the first modules called (if you use it as a module you should
 be loading it with initramdisk before loading acpi to have a full acpi
 configuration).
 try setting these options and recompile and install the new kernel and
 modules and reboot (kexec is not working on my amd turion with 64bit enabled
 and so may also be for your core2duo).

  2007/10/10, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Sorry i missed the attachment.
 
  regards,
  m
 
 



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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2007, Marco Calviani wrote:
 Hi Beso,
   sorry i misunderstood your suggestion. I did what you suggest and
 this is the result of the trip_points:

 critical (S5):  100C

 which i suppose is the reason why at that temperature the laptop switch
 off. So, nothing except for the critical state. Should i have to add there
 something?

 An additional problem is this:
 doing a
 $ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/TZ01/temperature
 it gives only a:

 temperature: 0C

 My question is:
 even if i change the polling frequency, how the fan can start if the
 temperature gives 0??
 Do you know if it's possible to link the fan start with the core
 temperature instead of the ACPI thermal zone?

AFAIK only if you have lm_sensors installed and sensors working.

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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-10 Thread Marco Calviani

 AFAIK only if you have lm_sensors installed and sensors working.

Yes there are both installed. But what do you mean?

m
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Re: [gentoo-laptop] Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-10 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch, 10. Oktober 2007, Marco Calviani wrote:
  AFAIK only if you have lm_sensors installed and sensors working.

 Yes there are both installed. But what do you mean?

that controlling the fan speed without acpi needs a) lm_sensors. b) sensors 
being working and c) fancontrol working.


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[gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-09 Thread Marco Calviani
Hi list,
   i have a Santa Rosa (Core 2 Duo T7300) Acer AS5720 laptop, and i'm
getting problems with the temperature of the CPU. In particular i'm
using the coretemp module for determining the core temperature.
Normally (using cpufreqd and the ondemand governor) the CPU stays at
nearly 50C  (which i think is quite high since in windows , using Core
Temp it gives about 30C).
While compiling this increases up to 95-100C (after which it shuts
down). The problem is that the fan is not spinning up at all!
What can be the cause of this behaviour? consider that i'm using an up
to date system with gentoo-sources-2.6.22-r8.

Any help appreciated,
Regards,
Marco
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with CPU temperature (Santa Rosa CPU)

2007-10-09 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag, 9. Oktober 2007, Marco Calviani wrote:
 Hi list,
i have a Santa Rosa (Core 2 Duo T7300) Acer AS5720 laptop, and i'm
 getting problems with the temperature of the CPU. In particular i'm
 using the coretemp module for determining the core temperature.
 Normally (using cpufreqd and the ondemand governor) the CPU stays at
 nearly 50C  (which i think is quite high since in windows , using Core
 Temp it gives about 30C).
 While compiling this increases up to 95-100C (after which it shuts
 down). The problem is that the fan is not spinning up at all!
 What can be the cause of this behaviour? consider that i'm using an up
 to date system with gentoo-sources-2.6.22-r8.

ACPI. You might be missing some options there. Or something else. Are you 
using fancontrol? If yes, try without, if no, try with it ;)
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