Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Mick
On Sunday 03 December 2006 19:19, Stroller wrote:
> On 3 Dec 2006, at 19:03, Stroller wrote:
> > On 3 Dec 2006, at 15:31, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >> On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:42 +, Mick wrote:
> >>> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to
> >>> another
> >>> DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
> >>> laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
> >>
> >> If you want to be able to play it on a standard DVD player, you
> >> need to
> >> transcode it into MPEG2, the format used by DVDs, at a lower
> >> bitrate...
> >
> > Since Mick has dual-layer DVDs he could even copy it ay the same
> > bit-rate. He is experiencing problems because his DVDs are region-
> > encoded & he has not decrypted them.
>
> Ooops! My apologies.
>
> Having read the previous thread I see that the problem is actually
> 1/2way through burning.
>
> Although I'm not clear whether or not Mick has de-regionalised his
> movies, my comments are nevertheless incorrect.

Thanks Stroller, I have not intentionally 'de-regionalised' the movie.  
However, I can: 

 - Play them straight from the DVD drive with mplayer/xine.  

 - Rip an iso of the DVD onto the hard drive, mount it and play any *vob files 
in it with mplayer/xine.  

 - Use mencoder and turn each *.vob file on the hard drive into an *.avi, 
which I can thereafter play.

What I can't do is save the DVD, or its iso onto a DVD+R DL.

On the other hand if the quality loss is not that great and helps me save them 
on single layer (cheaper) re-writable DVDs, I don't mind transcoding them to 
a different lossy format. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 19:03:57 +, Stroller wrote:

> Since Mick has dual-layer DVDs he could even copy it ay the same bit- 
> rate. He is experiencing problems because his DVDs are region-encoded  
> & he has not decrypted them.

I thought he was unable to burn DL DVDs, getting an error halfway.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Stroller


On 3 Dec 2006, at 19:03, Stroller wrote:



On 3 Dec 2006, at 15:31, Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:42 +, Mick wrote:

I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to  
another

DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.


If you want to be able to play it on a standard DVD player, you  
need to
transcode it into MPEG2, the format used by DVDs, at a lower  
bitrate...


Since Mick has dual-layer DVDs he could even copy it ay the same  
bit-rate. He is experiencing problems because his DVDs are region- 
encoded & he has not decrypted them.


Ooops! My apologies.

Having read the previous thread I see that the problem is actually  
1/2way through burning.


Although I'm not clear whether or not Mick has de-regionalised his  
movies, my comments are nevertheless incorrect.


Stroller. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Stroller


On 3 Dec 2006, at 13:28, Mick wrote:

...
I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to  
burn an iso
image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent  
topic) I

came to the conclusion that the combination of
K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work


I've never used K3B myself, but its site is not clear whether it  
handles the DeCSS part of the DVD rip.


CSS is the system used to region-restrict DVDs, and AFAICT it works  
by encrypting the files on the disk against a key stored in a special  
part of the DVD's header. This "header" part of the DVD is not  
writable by normal DVD-burners (I have heard that "authoring" DVD- 
burners which support it cost several thousand pounds), so a  
"bitwise" copy of a DVD cannot be decrypted (because the key is  
missing).


As I understand it, in order to copy DVD movies one must first make a  
copy of the DVD's files - with the region-encoding removed - onto  
hard-disk, then burn this as a new DVD "compilation". The result is  
an R0 disk which should play fine in any standard player.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Stroller


On 3 Dec 2006, at 15:31, Neil Bothwick wrote:


On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:42 +, Mick wrote:

I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to  
another

DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.


If you want to be able to play it on a standard DVD player, you  
need to
transcode it into MPEG2, the format used by DVDs, at a lower  
bitrate...


Since Mick has dual-layer DVDs he could even copy it ay the same bit- 
rate. He is experiencing problems because his DVDs are region-encoded  
& he has not decrypted them.


Stroller.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Robert Walter
hi
i have 2 favorites
the 1st is app-cdr/dvdshrink. it shrinks the movie and creates a single dvd 
image. burn it with k3b and play it back with any dvd player
the 2nd is media-video/dvdrip. it creates a divx/xvid movie that you can play 
on computers or divx capable dvd players.
best regards robert

On Sunday 03 December 2006 14:28, Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD to 
> take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and (if 
> it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
> 
> I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an 
> iso 
> image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent topic) I 
> came to the conclusion that the combination of 
> K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start 
> trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable 
> economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(
> 
> So, I am now looking at alternative solutions to be able to enjoy my movies 
> when on hols.  I mounted the DVD and can see a number of *.vob files only 
> some of which are the main film.  Saving these would be enough, if only they 
> could fit in a single layer DVD.  Each of these *.vob files are approx.:
> 
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 michael users 1073684480 Dec  3 11:21 vts_01_1.vob
> 
> There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent 
> failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that 
> they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I 
> don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you 
> recommend?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 3 Dec 2006 13:28:42 +, Mick wrote:

> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another
> DVD to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my
> laptop and (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

If you want to be able to play it on a standard DVD player, you need to
transcode it into MPEG2, the format used by DVDs, at a lower bitrate. A
simple program for doing just this is k9copy



* app-cdr/k9copy
 Available versions:  !1.0.3b !1.0.4 [M]1.1.0_beta1 [M]1.1.0_beta2
 Homepage:http://k9copy.sourceforge.net/
 Description: k9copy is a DVD backup utility which allow the
  copy of one or more titles from a DVD9 to a DVD5


-- 
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To most people solutions mean finding the answers.  But to chemists
solutions are things that are still all mixed up.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Uwe Thiem
On 03 December 2006 15:28, Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD
> to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and
> (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
>
> I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an
> iso image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent
> topic) I came to the conclusion that the combination of
> K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
> trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
> economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(

So far, I haven't managed to burn any DL DVD.

>
> So, I am now looking at alternative solutions to be able to enjoy my movies
> when on hols.  I mounted the DVD and can see a number of *.vob files only
> some of which are the main film.  Saving these would be enough, if only
> they could fit in a single layer DVD.  Each of these *.vob files are
> approx.:
>
> -r-xr-xr-x  1 michael users 1073684480 Dec  3 11:21 vts_01_1.vob
>
> There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent
> failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that
> they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I
> don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you
> recommend?


--- begin script ---

#! /bin/sh

BITRATE="730"

VIDCOM="-ovc x264 -x264encopts bitrate=$BITRATE:pass"
AUDCOM="-oac mp3lame -lameopts vbr=0:br=64"

RMLOG="rm divx*.log"

if [ $# != 2 ]; then
  echo "Usage: encode infile outfile"
  exit 1
fi

$RMLOG

mencoder $1 $VIDCOM=1 $AUDCOM -o $2
mencoder $1 $VIDCOM=2 $AUDCOM -o $2

$RMLOG

--- end script ---

if you launch the script like "encode dvd:// yourfile.avi" it will read from 
the dvd drive. You might want to set BITRATE to something in the range of 
2000.

Beware, this is *extremely* slow but leads to the best quality at the highest 
compressions rate (depending on BITRATE) I have encountered so far.

Oh yes, and you need the x264 codec. It is in portage.

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Novensiles divi Flamen
On Sunday 03 December 2006 23:28, Mick wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD
> to take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and
> (if it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.
>
>
> There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent
> failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that
> they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I
> don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you
> recommend?

For travelling I transcode my movies and fit three on a single DVD. If you are 
only watching it on your laptop this is fine, although you can see artifacts 
at that ratio. I use DVD::RIP and set it based on a target size of 1.5GB.

You can get all manual about it and use just the vobs and be all mathematical 
about the transcode CLI options, but for my time and simple movies on the go 
DVD::RIP is the shit.

- Noven
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Re: [gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread jak gentoo

On 12/3/06, Mick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi All,

I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD
to
take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and
(if
it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an
iso
image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent topic) I
came to the conclusion that the combination of
K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start
trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable
economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(

So, I am now looking at alternative solutions to be able to enjoy my
movies
when on hols.  I mounted the DVD and can see a number of *.vob files only
some of which are the main film.  Saving these would be enough, if only
they
could fit in a single layer DVD.  Each of these *.vob files are approx.:

-r-xr-xr-x  1 michael users 1073684480 Dec  3 11:21 vts_01_1.vob

There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent
failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that
they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I
don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you
recommend?
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Regards,
Mick




Hi Mick,
I'm not sure if this is what you want, but there is a tool in portage called
dvdrip, maybe that helps.
I never used it so I don't know if it will suit your needs.


[gentoo-user] Transcoding movie DVD to MPEG4?

2006-12-03 Thread Mick
Hi All,

I want to copy a movie from a DVD which I bought in a shop, to another DVD to 
take with me on holiday.  I'll be playing back the copy on my laptop and (if 
it is feasible) the hotel's DVD player.

I thought that K3B and a double layer blank DVD+R is all I need to burn an iso 
image of the DVD.  After two expensive coasters (see other recent topic) I 
came to the conclusion that the combination of 
K3B/Phillips-DVD8421/Imation-DVD+R DL will just not work.  I could start 
trying out different brands of DVD+R DL, but I cannot see a sustainable 
economic case for persevering with my coaster production.  :-(

So, I am now looking at alternative solutions to be able to enjoy my movies 
when on hols.  I mounted the DVD and can see a number of *.vob files only 
some of which are the main film.  Saving these would be enough, if only they 
could fit in a single layer DVD.  Each of these *.vob files are approx.:

-r-xr-xr-x  1 michael users 1073684480 Dec  3 11:21 vts_01_1.vob

There are 6 of them in a video which I want to copy, but given the recent 
failed attempts with burning DVD+R DLs I will have to compact them so that 
they can fit in a single DVD.  I read about transcoding into mpeg4, but I 
don't know what are the right options for what I want.  What would you 
recommend?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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