Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
On Saturday 15 April 2006 09:11 am, Tristan Mills wrote: > Lord Sauron wrote: > > Hi, once again... > > > > I'm taking a Computer Science class in school, and they use Java for > > this class. I decided to try using Eclipse, a popular Java IDE, > > however, Eclipse appears to be masked (see # emerge --search eclipse > > output below). I don't know what to do. Does anyone have any > > suggestions? > > A bit late perhaps, but I (and several colleagues) use Eclipse on Gentoo > every day at work. > We have all found the best solution is to download from the website and > unpack it. The version in portage is very old (the 3.2 milestones are > stable enough for everyday use) and its easier to manage and install > plugins. Yeah, it is really stale. A year ago I was using JCreator with JDK v1.5 I agree totally though: Eclipse looks better than awt or swing (though you can change their look using... I think it was UIStyle or something like that...) > Eclipse is great once you've used it a little (even with our bizarre > homebrew build systems at work) and its windowing toolkit looks far > better than AWT or Swing. All my computers are built by hand by me, so of course they're a interesting mix of ancient tech and the stuff that I can afford ; ) It's fun. pgpaRYr9wMwoa.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
Lord Sauron wrote: Hi, once again... I'm taking a Computer Science class in school, and they use Java for this class. I decided to try using Eclipse, a popular Java IDE, however, Eclipse appears to be masked (see # emerge --search eclipse output below). I don't know what to do. Does anyone have any suggestions? A bit late perhaps, but I (and several colleagues) use Eclipse on Gentoo every day at work. We have all found the best solution is to download from the website and unpack it. The version in portage is very old (the 3.2 milestones are stable enough for everyday use) and its easier to manage and install plugins. Eclipse is great once you've used it a little (even with our bizarre homebrew build systems at work) and its windowing toolkit looks far better than AWT or Swing. HTH Tristan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
Just a follow up: Installed the SDK Package. I have Eclipse now. That's really weird... calling your IDE a SDK... I'm sure there's some non-logic behind it... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
On Thursday 06 April 2006 19:36, Lord Sauron wrote: > On 4/6/06, Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thursday 06 April 2006 16:13, Richard Fish wrote: > > > On 4/6/06, Lord Sauron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Actually, it is the eclipse project itself that has made this so > > > > > damn confusing. Take a look at their "About Us" page, and try to > > > > > find anywhere that it mentions an IDE. It is actually a > > > > > development platform for building IDEs, or other applications built > > > > > on top of a bunch of smaller tools. > > > > > > > > I just hear about it used a lot for making Java programs. If it gets > > > > too confusing, I'll just stick with KDevelop! > > > > > > Well, I think the IDE is very nice and easy to use. It is just the > > > description of the project this is a bit difficult to understand. > > > > > > -Richard > > > > He said, "easy to use"... > > > > I'm impressed. Well... maybe I'm too old. > > Well, I think we can all agree that the easiest to use [editor] is > nano[1]. However, I do appreciate the tools and automation offered by > a IDE. > > 1. IMHO, if you can't use nano, then you have some major issues. > Yes, I nano... I also aee... much better. IMHO. Jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
On 4/6/06, Jerry McBride <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 06 April 2006 16:13, Richard Fish wrote: > > On 4/6/06, Lord Sauron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Actually, it is the eclipse project itself that has made this so damn > > > > confusing. Take a look at their "About Us" page, and try to find > > > > anywhere that it mentions an IDE. It is actually a development > > > > platform for building IDEs, or other applications built on top of a > > > > bunch of smaller tools. > > > > > > I just hear about it used a lot for making Java programs. If it gets > > > too confusing, I'll just stick with KDevelop! > > > > Well, I think the IDE is very nice and easy to use. It is just the > > description of the project this is a bit difficult to understand. > > > > -Richard > > He said, "easy to use"... > > I'm impressed. Well... maybe I'm too old. Well, I think we can all agree that the easiest to use [editor] is nano[1]. However, I do appreciate the tools and automation offered by a IDE. 1. IMHO, if you can't use nano, then you have some major issues. -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+> P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
On Thursday 06 April 2006 16:13, Richard Fish wrote: > On 4/6/06, Lord Sauron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Actually, it is the eclipse project itself that has made this so damn > > > confusing. Take a look at their "About Us" page, and try to find > > > anywhere that it mentions an IDE. It is actually a development > > > platform for building IDEs, or other applications built on top of a > > > bunch of smaller tools. > > > > I just hear about it used a lot for making Java programs. If it gets > > too confusing, I'll just stick with KDevelop! > > Well, I think the IDE is very nice and easy to use. It is just the > description of the project this is a bit difficult to understand. > > -Richard He said, "easy to use"... I'm impressed. Well... maybe I'm too old. Cheers. Jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
On 4/6/06, Lord Sauron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Actually, it is the eclipse project itself that has made this so damn > > confusing. Take a look at their "About Us" page, and try to find > > anywhere that it mentions an IDE. It is actually a development > > platform for building IDEs, or other applications built on top of a > > bunch of smaller tools. > > I just hear about it used a lot for making Java programs. If it gets > too confusing, I'll just stick with KDevelop! Well, I think the IDE is very nice and easy to use. It is just the description of the project this is a bit difficult to understand. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
On 4/6/06, Richard Fish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/6/06, Rafael Bugajewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So eclipse sdk is what you WANT. :-) I think the ebuild names let > > people misunderstand some things... Yeah, oftentimes I miss the presence of a nice graphical package browser like Synaptic. Even if I can't install stuff using it, it's still nice to just go shopping : ) It also included a more detailed description of the software. There'd be 3 or so levels of descriptors: the very short one, the medium one, and the very long one. It was very effective. > Actually, it is the eclipse project itself that has made this so damn > confusing. Take a look at their "About Us" page, and try to find > anywhere that it mentions an IDE. It is actually a development > platform for building IDEs, or other applications built on top of a > bunch of smaller tools. I just hear about it used a lot for making Java programs. If it gets too confusing, I'll just stick with KDevelop! I just hear that Eclipse is a Java-optimised IDE, and I'd like to use that instead of ultra-compatible KDevelop (which I perfer for C/C++, and am planning for use with bash as well). > On their downloads pagethe main download is "Eclipse SDK 3.1.2". > You won't find anywhere on their downloads pages to download the Java > IDE, because it is all part of the SDK! So the IDE is in the SDK? That's... strange. -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+> P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
On 4/6/06, Rafael Bugajewski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So eclipse sdk is what you WANT. :-) I think the ebuild names let > people misunderstand some things... Actually, it is the eclipse project itself that has made this so damn confusing. Take a look at their "About Us" page, and try to find anywhere that it mentions an IDE. It is actually a development platform for building IDEs, or other applications built on top of a bunch of smaller tools. On their downloads pagethe main download is "Eclipse SDK 3.1.2". You won't find anywhere on their downloads pages to download the Java IDE, because it is all part of the SDK! -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 06.04.2006 um 08:00 schrieb Lord Sauron: I know, however, I want the whole she-bang, the whole IDE. A toolkit doesn't help me too much... : ( that is, unless I'm misunderstanding this. Under Debian Eclipse was just apt-get install eclipse and that was it. I don't know how I need to do it all in Gentoo. So eclipse sdk is what you WANT. :-) I think the ebuild names let people misunderstand some things... in my case it was so. But yes, you can also use the version from eclipse.org like Haim said, it's also O.K. and you don't have to play around with missing permissions for the plugins directory and so on. Greets, Rafael -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2.2 (Darwin) iD8DBQFENQ3i54MLbyoQXM4RAmDZAJ9zgqWKGEJbDyRMReXg6pLFbS/5egCfXSyi Sxu7xZR1izziRo62LUYzp3s= =Vk91 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
On Thursday 06 April 2006 08:31, Lord Sauron wrote: > Hi, once again... > > I'm taking a Computer Science class in school, and they use Java for > this class. I decided to try using Eclipse, a popular Java IDE, > however, Eclipse appears to be masked (see # emerge --search eclipse > output below). I don't know what to do. Does anyone have any > suggestions? Actually, if it's for you using eclipse (and not many users on the computer using if) I would recommend downloading the latest version from the eclipse web site (it's only a matter of opening a tar file) and installing any plugins you like through their update manager. you'll get much more updated versions without having to play with "/etc/portage/packages.keywords". Bye -- Haim pgpDwdIuRPOYS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
On 4/5/06, Renat Golubchyk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi! > > On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:31:20 -0700 "Lord Sauron" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * dev-util/eclipse-sdk > > Latest version available: 3.0.1-r2 > > Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] > > Size of downloaded files: 54,314 kB > > Homepage:http://www.eclipse.org/ > > Description: Eclipse Tools Platform > > License: CPL-1.0 > > This one is not masked. I know, however, I want the whole she-bang, the whole IDE. A toolkit doesn't help me too much... : ( that is, unless I'm misunderstanding this. Under Debian Eclipse was just apt-get install eclipse and that was it. I don't know how I need to do it all in Gentoo. I've got time though. I only need this up by the start of school. School hasn't even ended yet. I'm just getting a head-start, so don't feel like you'll never hear from Lord Sauron again if we don't find a solution. I think that this means I have to change from -x86 to ~x86, however, I'm not entirely sure, and I'm not certain of the ramifications of doing this. -- == GCv3.12 == GCS d-(++) s+: a? C++ UL+> P+ L++ E--- W+(+++) N++ o? K? w--- O? M+ V? PS- PE+ Y-(--) PGP- t+++ 5? X R tv-- b+ DI+++ D+ G e* h- !r !y = END GCv3.12 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Eclipse IDE For Java
Hi! On Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:31:20 -0700 "Lord Sauron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * dev-util/eclipse-sdk > Latest version available: 3.0.1-r2 > Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] > Size of downloaded files: 54,314 kB > Homepage:http://www.eclipse.org/ > Description: Eclipse Tools Platform > License: CPL-1.0 This one is not masked. Cheers, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
