Re: [gentoo-user] JMicron confusion

2006-10-03 Thread Duane Griffin

On 01/10/06, Duane Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 30/09/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 9/30/06, Duane Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Another issue you might run into is getting the onboard RTL8168
  ethernet controller working.
 People on the forums claim they're using the in-kernel Realtek 8169
 drivers, have you tried that?

Not yet, my understanding is that a patch is required to get it
working with 2.6.18. I have that compiled and ready to test, but I
haven't got around to rebooting and trying it. I'll get back to you
tomorrow :)


Just FYI, 2.6.18 + r8169 patch works fine for the r8168 and JMicron.
Haven't tried the r8169 driver from plain vanilla 2.6.18, sorry.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] JMicron confusion

2006-10-01 Thread Duane Griffin

On 30/09/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Doesn't the all-generic-ide line prevent you from using DMA and such?
The two objections I've seen to that is that it restricts the speed,
and also renames the drives to hd* instead of sd*, so things would get
switched around if I ever got to drop that parameter.


I'm not sure about DMA, actually. The DVD drive is the only thing
using it on my machine (the disks are SATA), so the performance and
device name isn't really a concern for me. It is all sorted out in
2.6.18, though, so if you upgrade to that immediately after getting
your base-installation done then you should be fine.


 Another issue you might run into is getting the onboard RTL8168
 ethernet controller working. There is no in-kernel driver for this
 thing. I managed to get the vendor-supplied driver compiling, but
 isn't working correctly for me (it seems to be transmitting packets
 fine but not receiving anything). I've not looked into it much since
 there seems to be in-kernel support coming soon and I've got another
 ethernet controller card to use in the meantime. There are also lots
 of reports from people getting it working successfully, so it may just
 be something stupid I'm doing.

Yes, I'm seeing that, too.  I think at this point I'm looking into
other motherboards.


Maybe a good idea if you have the choice, but be careful. It seems a
lot of the i965 motherboards are using the JMicron, since the chipset
doesn't have a built-in IDE controller.


Ryan W Sims


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Re: [gentoo-user] JMicron confusion

2006-10-01 Thread Duane Griffin

On 30/09/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 9/30/06, Duane Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm running gentoo on exactly this setup. There was some trouble with
 support for the controller prior to 2.6.18, however it all works just
 fine if you use the all-generic-ide irqpoll boot parameters.

Did you pass those parameters to the amd64 installcd?  Or did you use
kernelOfTruth's livecd?


I passed it to the 2006.1 install CD (and added it to my grub kernel
params, of course).


 Another issue you might run into is getting the onboard RTL8168
 ethernet controller working.
People on the forums claim they're using the in-kernel Realtek 8169
drivers, have you tried that?


Not yet, my understanding is that a patch is required to get it
working with 2.6.18. I have that compiled and ready to test, but I
haven't got around to rebooting and trying it. I'll get back to you
tomorrow :)


Ryan W Sims


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Re: [gentoo-user] JMicron confusion

2006-09-30 Thread Duane Griffin

On 29/09/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I'm looking at upgrading to a Core 2 Duo system, and looking at the
Asus P5B series of motherboards.  I've found a couple forum posts
(http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-494387-highlight-p965.html and
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-498160-highlight-p965.html) that
seem to indicate troubles with JMicron support in kernels.  Is this
something I should be concerned about?  The forum discussions seem to
indicate that the problem is unresolved, indicating to me that I
should look elsewhere for motherboards.


I'm running gentoo on exactly this setup. There was some trouble with
support for the controller prior to 2.6.18, however it all works just
fine if you use the all-generic-ide irqpoll boot parameters.

Another issue you might run into is getting the onboard RTL8168
ethernet controller working. There is no in-kernel driver for this
thing. I managed to get the vendor-supplied driver compiling, but
isn't working correctly for me (it seems to be transmitting packets
fine but not receiving anything). I've not looked into it much since
there seems to be in-kernel support coming soon and I've got another
ethernet controller card to use in the meantime. There are also lots
of reports from people getting it working successfully, so it may just
be something stupid I'm doing.


Ryan W Sims


Cheers,
Duane.

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Re: [gentoo-user] JMicron confusion

2006-09-30 Thread Ryan Sims

On 9/30/06, Duane Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 29/09/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking at upgrading to a Core 2 Duo system, and looking at the
 Asus P5B series of motherboards.  I've found a couple forum posts
 (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-494387-highlight-p965.html and
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-498160-highlight-p965.html) that
 seem to indicate troubles with JMicron support in kernels.  Is this
 something I should be concerned about?  The forum discussions seem to
 indicate that the problem is unresolved, indicating to me that I
 should look elsewhere for motherboards.

I'm running gentoo on exactly this setup. There was some trouble with
support for the controller prior to 2.6.18, however it all works just
fine if you use the all-generic-ide irqpoll boot parameters.


Doesn't the all-generic-ide line prevent you from using DMA and such?
The two objections I've seen to that is that it restricts the speed,
and also renames the drives to hd* instead of sd*, so things would get
switched around if I ever got to drop that parameter.


Another issue you might run into is getting the onboard RTL8168
ethernet controller working. There is no in-kernel driver for this
thing. I managed to get the vendor-supplied driver compiling, but
isn't working correctly for me (it seems to be transmitting packets
fine but not receiving anything). I've not looked into it much since
there seems to be in-kernel support coming soon and I've got another
ethernet controller card to use in the meantime. There are also lots
of reports from people getting it working successfully, so it may just
be something stupid I'm doing.
Cheers,
Duane.


Yes, I'm seeing that, too.  I think at this point I'm looking into
other motherboards.

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Re: [gentoo-user] JMicron confusion

2006-09-30 Thread Ryan Sims

On 9/30/06, Duane Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 29/09/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking at upgrading to a Core 2 Duo system, and looking at the
 Asus P5B series of motherboards.  I've found a couple forum posts
 (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-494387-highlight-p965.html and
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-498160-highlight-p965.html) that
 seem to indicate troubles with JMicron support in kernels.  Is this
 something I should be concerned about?  The forum discussions seem to
 indicate that the problem is unresolved, indicating to me that I
 should look elsewhere for motherboards.

I'm running gentoo on exactly this setup. There was some trouble with
support for the controller prior to 2.6.18, however it all works just
fine if you use the all-generic-ide irqpoll boot parameters.


Did you pass those parameters to the amd64 installcd?  Or did you use
kernelOfTruth's livecd?

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Re: [gentoo-user] JMicron confusion

2006-09-30 Thread Ryan Sims

On 9/30/06, Duane Griffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On 29/09/06, Ryan Sims [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm looking at upgrading to a Core 2 Duo system, and looking at the
 Asus P5B series of motherboards.  I've found a couple forum posts
 (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-494387-highlight-p965.html and
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-498160-highlight-p965.html) that
 seem to indicate troubles with JMicron support in kernels.  Is this
 something I should be concerned about?  The forum discussions seem to
 indicate that the problem is unresolved, indicating to me that I
 should look elsewhere for motherboards.

I'm running gentoo on exactly this setup. There was some trouble with
support for the controller prior to 2.6.18, however it all works just
fine if you use the all-generic-ide irqpoll boot parameters.

Another issue you might run into is getting the onboard RTL8168
ethernet controller working. There is no in-kernel driver for this
thing. I managed to get the vendor-supplied driver compiling, but
isn't working correctly for me (it seems to be transmitting packets
fine but not receiving anything). I've not looked into it much since
there seems to be in-kernel support coming soon and I've got another
ethernet controller card to use in the meantime. There are also lots
of reports from people getting it working successfully, so it may just
be something stupid I'm doing.


People on the forums claim they're using the in-kernel Realtek 8169
drivers, have you tried that?

(sorry for all the noise, but the thought of upgrading my system and
the thought of not being able to intsall Gentoo fills my heart with
dread.  ;)

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Re: [gentoo-user] JMicron confusion

2006-09-29 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Friday 29 September 2006 21:28, Ryan Sims wrote:
 I'm looking at upgrading to a Core 2 Duo system, and looking at the
 Asus P5B series of motherboards.  I've found a couple forum posts
 (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-494387-highlight-p965.html and
 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-498160-highlight-p965.html) that
 seem to indicate troubles with JMicron support in kernels.  Is this
 something I should be concerned about?  The forum discussions seem to
 indicate that the problem is unresolved, indicating to me that I
 should look elsewhere for motherboards.

I am using this one:
03:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technologies, Inc. JMicron 20360/20363 AHCI 
Controller

without any troubles.

It is important to have a fairly recent kernel. 
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