Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-08 Thread Dale
Marc Blumentritt wrote:
> 
> I would run revdep-rebuild after the rebuild of
> world, just to be sure. 
>   
< snip>
> Cheers
> Marc
>
>
>   

I did that too.  I'm not sure if it is just me or what but every time I
run revdep-rebuild it wants to emerge gcc again.  It did the same thing
before the gcc upgrade.  If you run it, you may want to post to make
sure it is making sense.  After three runs, I said forget it.  It'll
just have to keep.  I read somewhere it was a bug.  I dunno.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-08 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 08 September 2006 15:00, Dale wrote:
> I'm not sure if it is just me or what but every time I
> run revdep-rebuild it wants to emerge gcc again.  It did the same thing
> before the gcc upgrade.

It is bug #125728 [1]? Otherwise if it continues consider posting the output 
of:

# revdep-rebuild -i -- -vp

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-08 Thread Dale
Marc Blumentritt wrote:
> Dale schrieb:
>   
>> Marc Blumentritt wrote:
>> I did that too.  I'm not sure if it is just me or what but every time I
>> run revdep-rebuild it wants to emerge gcc again.  It did the same thing
>> before the gcc upgrade.  If you run it, you may want to post to make
>> sure it is making sense.  After three runs, I said forget it.  It'll
>> just have to keep.  I read somewhere it was a bug.  I dunno.
>> 
>
> Did you remove the temporary files of revdep-rebuild from /root?
>
> I had no problems with the upgrade and running revdep-rebuild afterward.
> In fact, revdep-rebuild showed me no package at all to rebuild, which
> was what I expected.
>
> Cheers
> Marc
>
>   

I remove those each time.  It is sort of a habit now.  I run it on
occasion especially if I remove something.  Just to make sure.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-08 Thread Dale
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> On Friday 08 September 2006 15:00, Dale wrote:
>   
>> I'm not sure if it is just me or what but every time I
>> run revdep-rebuild it wants to emerge gcc again.  It did the same thing
>> before the gcc upgrade.
>> 
>
> It is bug #125728 [1]? Otherwise if it continues consider posting the output 
> of:
>
> # revdep-rebuild -i -- -vp
>
> [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125728
>
>   

This is what your command gave me:

> [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # revdep-rebuild -i -- -vp
> Configuring search environment for revdep-rebuild
>
> Checking reverse dependencies...
>
> Packages containing binaries and libraries broken by a package update
> will be emerged.
>
> Collecting system binaries and libraries... done.
>   (/root/.revdep-rebuild.1_files)
>
> Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH... done.
>   (/root/.revdep-rebuild.2_ldpath)
>
> Checking dynamic linking consistency...
>   broken /usr/lib/aqbanking/plugins/0/bankinfo/de.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaqbanking.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/aqbanking/plugins/0/bankinfo/de.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libgwenhywfar.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/aqbanking/plugins/0/imexporters/ofx.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaqbanking.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/aqbanking/plugins/0/imexporters/ofx.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libgwenhywfar.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/aqbanking/plugins/0/providers/aqofxconnect.la
> (requires /usr/lib/libaqbanking.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/aqbanking/plugins/0/providers/aqofxconnect.la
> (requires /usr/lib/libgwenhywfar.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/ac3pass.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/ac3pass.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/audiodec.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/audiodec.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/ffmpeg.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/ffmpeg.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/mad_audiodec.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/mad_audiodec.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/mp3lame_audioenc.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/mp3lame_audioenc.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/mp3lamebin_audioenc.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/mp3lamebin_audioenc.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/mpeg_audiodec.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/mpeg_audiodec.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/osmjpeg.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/osmjpeg.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/vorbis_audio.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/vorbis_audio.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/win32.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/win32.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/xvid4.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/xvid4.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgcjawt.la (requires
> /usr/lib/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgij.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libgcj.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/kde3/libk3blibsndfiledecoder.la (requires
> /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libkio.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/kde3/libk3blibsndfiledecoder.la (requires
> /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libkdesu.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/kde3/libk3blibsndfiledecoder.la (requires
> /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libkwalletclient.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/kde3/libk3blibsndfiledecoder.la (requires
> /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libkdeui.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/kde3/libk3blibsndfiledecoder.la (requires
> /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libkdecore.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/kde3/libk3blibsndfiledecoder.la (requires
> /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libDCOP.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/kde3/libk3blibsndfiledecoder.la (requires
> /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libkdefx.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/libaqbankingpp.la (requires /usr/lib/libaqbanking.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/libaqbankingpp.la (requires /usr/lib/libgwenhywfar.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/libaqofxconnect.la (requires /usr/lib/libaqbanking.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/libaqofxconnect.la (requires /usr/lib/libgwenhywfar.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/libaviplay.la (requires /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/libaviplay.la (requires /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/libkbanking.la (requires /usr/lib/libaqbanking.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/libkbanking.la (requires /usr/lib/libgwenhywfar.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/libqavm.la (requires /usr/lib/libaviplayav

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-08 Thread Richard Fish

On 9/8/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Checking dynamic linking consistency...
>   broken /usr/lib/aqbanking/plugins/0/bankinfo/de.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaqbanking.la)


Since you don't have aqbanking installed anymore, just delete these
files, and probably the entire /usr/lib/qabanking directory.  Might
want to run an "equery belongs /usr/lib/aqbanking" first just to make
sure nothing claims ownership of those files first...


>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/ac3pass.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/avifile-0.7/ac3pass.la (requires

...

I suspect this is the same as aqbanking..no longer installed, so same
solution.  "Equery belongs" to be sure...


>   broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgcjawt.la (requires
> /usr/lib/lib-gnu-java-awt-peer-gtk.la)
>   broken /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/4.1.1/libgij.la (requires
> /usr/lib/libgcj.la)


Definitely bug #125728.  I believe comment #29 contains the best
workarounds until a fix is actually applied.


>   broken /usr/lib/kde3/libk3blibsndfiledecoder.la (requires
> /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libkio.la)

...

Here again, "equery belongs /usr/lib/kde3/libk3blibsndfiledecoder.la".
If nothing owns it, just remove it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-08 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 16:14:53 -0500, Dale wrote:

> >   broken /usr/lib/libqavm.la (requires /usr/lib/libaviplayavformat.la)
> >   broken /usr/lib/libqavm.la (requires /usr/lib/libaviplayavcodec.la)
> >   broken /usr/lib/libqbanking.la (requires /usr/lib/libaqbanking.la)
> >   broken /usr/lib/libqbanking.la (requires /usr/lib/libgwenhywfar.la)
[repeated]
> 
> I unmerged aqbanking.  It wouldn't compile and I was not using it
> anyway. 
> 
> What you think?  Bug or me having a setting wrong??

Did you run fix_libtool_files.sh between merging and unmerging aqbanking?
This changes .la files, which means that their checksums no longer match
the installed versions so portage doesn't remove them. Whether this is a
bug in fix_libtool_files.sh or portage is open for discussion.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-08 Thread Richard Fish

On 9/8/06, Dale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

So basically if these files don't belong to anything, I can safely
delete them?


Yep.


On the roach report, me sort of chicken to edit those files.  Will it be
OK to let it stay like this and let the bug get fixed?  It's been doing
this a while and I don't !see! any problems.


Yes, as long as you don't mind the revdep-rebuild borkage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-08 Thread Dale
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
>> I'm working on the list above.  So far nothing belongs to anything.
>> Maybe I need a depclean on this thing.  It is a 3 year old install if I
>> recall correctly.
>> 
>
> This has nothing to do with depclean. Neils suggesting that the md5sums were 
> altered by fix_libtool_files.sh and hence not removed seems much more likely. 
> Portage doesn't removed files with altered md5sums..
>
>   

What would be a good way of finding files that were not deleted when
something was upgraded/unmerged?  I thought depclean was different from
what I wanted to say but it got the ball rolling.

Last part, zm, right over my head I think.  Let's see if I get
this right.  emerge put a file in there, something, me maybe, changed
something so it leaves it alone.  That right??

Gosh I wish someone could just pour all the Gentoo stuff in my head.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-08 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Saturday 09 September 2006 05:33, Dale wrote:
> What would be a good way of finding files that were not deleted when
> something was upgraded/unmerged?  I thought depclean was different from
> what I wanted to say but it got the ball rolling.

Depclean is to remove packages that are no longer in or a dependency of 
something in your world file.

> Last part, zm, right over my head I think.  Let's see if I get
> this right.  emerge put a file in there, something, me maybe, changed
> something so it leaves it alone.  That right??

Yep. 

So just to illustrate:

# touch  /usr/share/vim/vimfiles/plugin/bugsummary.vim

# emerge --unmerge -va gentoo-syntax
>>> These are the packages that would be unmerged:
[SNIP]
>>> Unmerging app-vim/gentoo-syntax-20051221-r1...
No package files given... Grabbing a set.
[SNIP]
<<

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-08 Thread Dale
Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
> On Saturday 09 September 2006 05:33, Dale wrote:
>   
>> What would be a good way of finding files that were not deleted when
>> something was upgraded/unmerged?  I thought depclean was different from
>> what I wanted to say but it got the ball rolling.
>> 
>
> Depclean is to remove packages that are no longer in or a dependency of 
> something in your world file.
>
>   
>> Last part, zm, right over my head I think.  Let's see if I get
>> this right.  emerge put a file in there, something, me maybe, changed
>> something so it leaves it alone.  That right??
>> 
>
> Yep. 
>
> So just to illustrate:
>
> # touch  /usr/share/vim/vimfiles/plugin/bugsummary.vim
>
> # emerge --unmerge -va gentoo-syntax
>   
 These are the packages that would be unmerged:
 
> [SNIP]
>   
 Unmerging app-vim/gentoo-syntax-20051221-r1...
 
> No package files given... Grabbing a set.
> [SNIP]
> << << << << --- !mtime obj /usr/share/vim/vimfiles/plugin/bugsummary.vim
> [SNIP]
> --- !empty dir /usr/share/vim
> <<
> All the things that has a "<<<" are actually removed. The things with "---" 
> are not removed for the reason given in the following column. Since I 
> touch'ed  /usr/share/vim/vimfiles/plugin/bugsummary.vim it wasn't removed 
> with the reason: "!mtime" which means the last modified time has been altered 
> after it was installed. The reason "!empty" is the reason for dirs which 
> aren't empty (others packages have installed files in the same dirs...).
>
> After the unmerge is complete the only way to know is that the files no 
> longer 
> belong to any package. Of course when I remerge this package in a few minutes 
> the files will be overwritten and the mtime will be correct again...
>
> Hope that makes it clear.
>
>   
So basically if I mess with a file and then unmerge the program it
belongs to, I have to remember which ones I messed with and delete them
myself?  If I unmerge this in a console and can't read all the "--
!mtime" as they roll by, I'm stuck with orphan files on my rig?  This
needs a fix but I wouldn't want to be the dev to figure this one out.  ;-)

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:15:09 -0500, Dale wrote:

> So basically if I mess with a file and then unmerge the program it
> belongs to, I have to remember which ones I messed with and delete them
> myself?

Yes, because the file is no longer the file portage installed, so it has
no right to remove it.

> If I unmerge this in a console and can't read all the "--
> !mtime" as they roll by, I'm stuck with orphan files on my rig?  This
> needs a fix but I wouldn't want to be the dev to figure this one
> out.  ;-)

This generally isn't a problem, because you normally only edit files
in /etc, which are config protected anyway. It arises here because
fix_libtool_files.sh modifies the .la files. One could argue that it is
the responsibility of that script to check the md5/mtime information and
update it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-11 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:15:09 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> So basically if I mess with a file and then unmerge the program it
>> belongs to, I have to remember which ones I messed with and delete them
>> myself?
>> 
>
> Yes, because the file is no longer the file portage installed, so it has
> no right to remove it.
>
>   
>> If I unmerge this in a console and can't read all the "--
>> !mtime" as they roll by, I'm stuck with orphan files on my rig?  This
>> needs a fix but I wouldn't want to be the dev to figure this one
>> out.  ;-)
>> 
>
> This generally isn't a problem, because you normally only edit files
> in /etc, which are config protected anyway. It arises here because
> fix_libtool_files.sh modifies the .la files. One could argue that it is
> the responsibility of that script to check the md5/mtime information and
> update it.
>
>
>   

Cheese, I'm learning something.  I already knew that it would not delete
files in /etc/ and now I know why.  LOL  I never put the two together
before you said that.  Who knows, maybe in 20 years I'll be a dev.  O_O 
I'll be too old then though.

I'm working on a fresh install on another hard drive now.  That will
clear out some cruft.  I copied my make.conf file and one other config
file and that is it.  Oh, the kernel's .config.  I knew it was something
outside of /etc. 

Thanks for clearing up my muddy water.  Care to help with the rest now?  LOL

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-11 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Monday 11 September 2006 23:32, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Fri, 08 Sep 2006 23:15:09 -0500, Dale wrote:
> > So basically if I mess with a file and then unmerge the program it
> > belongs to, I have to remember which ones I messed with and delete them
> > myself?
>
> Yes, because the file is no longer the file portage installed, so it has
> no right to remove it.
[SNIP]
> This generally isn't a problem, because you normally only edit files
> in /etc, which are config protected anyway. It arises here because
> fix_libtool_files.sh modifies the .la files. 

I still would prefer if it was stored in a log file somewhere so that if I 
ever stumple upon it I can see where it came from... Haven't gotten around to 
filing any bug about that though.

> One could argue that it is 
> the responsibility of that script to check the md5/mtime information and
> update it.

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=71265

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-11 Thread Ryan Tandy

Dale wrote:

Cheese, I'm learning something.  I already knew that it would not delete
files in /etc/ and now I know why.  LOL  I never put the two together
before you said that.


Well, the /etc thing is generally more due to CONFIG_PROTECT - it won't 
delete files from /etc regardless of whether or not you've modified 
them, because they're under CONFIG_PROTECTion.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gcc upgrade from 3.x to 4.x, when should I run revdep-rebuild?

2006-09-11 Thread Dale
Ryan Tandy wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> Cheese, I'm learning something.  I already knew that it would not delete
>> files in /etc/ and now I know why.  LOL  I never put the two together
>> before you said that.
>
> Well, the /etc thing is generally more due to CONFIG_PROTECT - it
> won't delete files from /etc regardless of whether or not you've
> modified them, because they're under CONFIG_PROTECTion.

Yea, but now I know that.  Sometimes it takes my light bulb a while to
get brightened up good.  :-(

LOL

Dale

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