Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 09/07/2014 22:48, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: On 09/07/2014 18:44, James wrote: Stroller stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: Please don't use pastebin sites - if your output is too long to copy and paste into the body of the message, then please attach it as a plain text file. If you name it output.txt then most people, with GUI mail clients, will be able to read it just by double-clicking. Most pastebin services expire old pastes periodically (not to mention that pastebin services are hardly profitable, and close down all the time) whereas these mailing list messages are archived in multiple places and are referenced for years. If you attach these files as plain text then they'll be archived, useful to other people with the same problem in the future. I'll agree, this is excellent advise. However, I use game.org to read and post to gentoo-user. So how do you attached a txt file to those postings via gmane? Options to get the txt file attachemnent into the proper record? gentoo-user is a mailing list. It receives mail to the list address and forwards them on to all subscribers. It's all done by mail. Now someone has built an email-web_thingy gateway. It is deficient by design and as you point out doesn't do big posts AT ALL. That's too bad, but you chose that option and now you must deal with it's deficiencies and shortcomings. Sorry for the tone but that really is how it is. What tone? You call that tone ? You're slipping. been to too many 'team' meetings lately? Agreeded; just pointing it out. I find gmane too useful so I tend to prune and post succinctly. Rarely do I need to put up a big long post. But I do read and snip before posting; so my approach is a valid as any. focus, snip and post goes a long way, but it does require some reading and editing skills, just to set the record straight. Noobs can follow who they like, as they like, when they like When needed I just use an nntp font end.. (oh, had my own solution already?) tricky; precious; tricky You're slipping, you old_fart ? Not so much slipping, more like new job, new employer. It used to go like this: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: No. Because I said so. Now piss off. I don't have quite the same street credd here yet, so now it's more like: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: I don't recommend that because ... insert some politely worded well-thought out rationale here James -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:48:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Not so much slipping, more like new job, new employer. It used to go like this: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: No. Because I said so. Now piss off. I don't have quite the same street credd here yet, so now it's more like: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: I don't recommend that because ... insert some politely worded well-thought out rationale here There must be some substantial benefits to compensate for all that tongue-biting :) -- Neil Bothwick Make it idiot proof and someone will make a better idiot. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 10/07/2014 12:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:48:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Not so much slipping, more like new job, new employer. It used to go like this: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: No. Because I said so. Now piss off. I don't have quite the same street credd here yet, so now it's more like: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: I don't recommend that because ... insert some politely worded well-thought out rationale here There must be some substantial benefits to compensate for all that tongue-biting :) Oh yes, there's a benefit all right. I'm now back in a place I was 3 years OK: When I go home at night, I don't suffer from an over-powering urge to murder my kids, dogs, wife and generally visit havoc and destruction on all humanity. My wife says I'm a nice guy again. She didn't like living with that imposter. -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:41:36 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: My wife says I'm a nice guy again. I think we'll miss the old Alan :) -- Neil Bothwick Never ask a geek why, just nod your head and slowly back away signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 10/07/2014 15:26, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 13:41:36 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: My wife says I'm a nice guy again. I think we'll miss the old Alan :) A, c'mon, give the new guy a chance. You'll like him I'm sure. Besides, I'm a sysadmin. You can trust me implicitly in this :-) -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 10/07/2014 16:52, James wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: I don't recommend that because ... insert some politely worded well-thought out rationale here A politically correct Alan? RUBBISH mate rubbish! (howz my tone?) Your tone is fine :-) In my circle of friends there would be an expletive or three in there, but IIRC cussing isn't your thing so I reckon we can let it stand There must be some substantial benefits to compensate for all that tongue-biting :) Oh yes, there's a benefit all right. I'm now back in a place I was 3 years OK: When I go home at night, I don't suffer from an over-powering urge to murder my kids, dogs, wife and generally visit havoc and destruction on all humanity. My wife says I'm a nice guy again. She didn't like living with that imposter. Yes, I too had to give up 'riding the tiger' some years ago. It's really bad on your health. I found being wise with money and enjoying my (limited consulting) work leaves me with a far more rewarding life, and a lower tax bill. :-) And for my next party trick, I'll see if I can get the man thread back on track to helping the OP build blender! -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 10 July 2014 13:41:36 CEST, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/07/2014 12:11, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:48:47 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Not so much slipping, more like new job, new employer. It used to go like this: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: No. Because I said so. Now piss off. I don't have quite the same street credd here yet, so now it's more like: Q: Alan, can I ... insert something stupid here? A: I don't recommend that because ... insert some politely worded well-thought out rationale here There must be some substantial benefits to compensate for all that tongue-biting :) Oh yes, there's a benefit all right. I'm now back in a place I was 3 years OK: When I go home at night, I don't suffer from an over-powering urge to murder my kids, dogs, wife and generally visit havoc and destruction on all humanity. My wife says I'm a nice guy again. She didn't like living with that imposter. That is a very good benefit. I only feel like getting rid of everyone except my family. :) -- Joost -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 09:01:51PM +, James wrote: Stroller stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: Perhaps someone else can explain? Does this mean OP should have no other version of Python on his system, but 3.4.x? Stroller. I believe this thread (prolly) explains what's up with the latest version of blender? https://bugs.funtoo.org/browse/FL-1325 hth, James I believe this thread (prolly) explains what's up with the latest version of blender? https://bugs.funtoo.org/browse/FL-1325 hth, James Interesting. Thanks. That's the solution I was ariving at. I have already ~amd64'd =dev-lang/python-3.4.0. Hey! Let's go with a round four slots of python. I can count that One hand.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: media-gfx/blender-2.71 dependencies
On 09/07/2014 18:44, James wrote: Stroller stroller at stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: Please don't use pastebin sites - if your output is too long to copy and paste into the body of the message, then please attach it as a plain text file. If you name it output.txt then most people, with GUI mail clients, will be able to read it just by double-clicking. Most pastebin services expire old pastes periodically (not to mention that pastebin services are hardly profitable, and close down all the time) whereas these mailing list messages are archived in multiple places and are referenced for years. If you attach these files as plain text then they'll be archived, useful to other people with the same problem in the future. I'll agree, this is excellent advise. However, I use game.org to read and post to gentoo-user. So how do you attached a txt file to those postings via gmane? Options to get the txt file attachemnent into the proper record? gentoo-user is a mailing list. It receives mail to the list address and forwards them on to all subscribers. It's all done by mail. Now someone has built an email-web_thingy gateway. It is deficient by design and as you point out doesn't do big posts AT ALL. That's too bad, but you chose that option and now you must deal with it's deficiencies and shortcomings. Sorry for the tone but that really is how it is. Gmane refuses to post long replies. Gmane allows one to read and post from a variety of machines, particularly useful when one locks up one's main workstation, which I have done of several occasions, and have to use gmane to recover with the aid of the gentoo-user list: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user curiously, James -- Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
