Re: [gentoo-user] Which emulators for DOS+Win3.1 games?

2005-06-16 Thread Sascha Hlusiak
>   Browsing through /usr/portage/app-emulation, I see dosemu and wine and
> a whole bunch of others.  Are dosemu and wine the ones to use, or are
> some of the others (which I have no clue about) preferred?

I made good experience using dosbox to run old dos games. I don't know,
if Win 3.11 will run in dosbox, but why not, it is a dos game. ;)

Wine can only emulate win programs (correct me if I'm wrong), so try
this, if you have a win 3.11 game.

Sascha


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Re: [gentoo-user] Which emulators for DOS+Win3.1 games?

2005-06-16 Thread Holly Bostick
Walter Dnes schreef:
>   Going through some old backup CDs, I found a few obscure DOS games and
> Chessmaster 3000 (I still have the original install floppies!).  I don't
> want to have to dual-boot or dedicate a machine to them.  What are the
> recommended emulators to use under Gentoo?  The DOS games probably bang
> away directly at IO ports, and Chessmaster 3000 could run under either
> Win3.1 or Win95.
> 
>   Browsing through /usr/portage/app-emulation, I see dosemu and wine and
> a whole bunch of others.  Are dosemu and wine the ones to use, or are
> some of the others (which I have no clue about) preferred?
> 

DosBox is working well for me (although I have not used it for much as yet).

As far as I can tell, you might well be able to run some Win 3.1 and Win
95 games under it (since there aren't any Win 3.1 games, they were DOS
games, and half of the Win95 games were just DOS games with a GUI
installer/loader stuck on ($DEITY, those were hell to get running).

So I would suggest that you first go by the DOSBox homepage at
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net and look at their database (it's very very
long), to see if your game is listed, and its run status, by version.

Hope this helps.

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which emulators for DOS+Win3.1 games?

2005-06-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Thu, Jun 16, 2005 at 08:21:23PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote

> DosBox is working well for me (although I have not used it for much as yet).
> 
> As far as I can tell, you might well be able to run some Win 3.1 and Win
> 95 games under it (since there aren't any Win 3.1 games, they were DOS
> games, and half of the Win95 games were just DOS games with a GUI
> installer/loader stuck on ($DEITY, those were hell to get running).

  Finally got it running.  Since SDL is hooked into svgalib (at least on
my system) I had to...
  - modprobe svgalib_helper (which creates /dev/svga and /dev/svga1)
  - chmod u+s /usr/games/bin/dosbox (with the usual security disclaimer)
  - and remember that svgalib has to be emerged every time I rebuild the
kernel

  My startup messages include...
> CONFIG: Using default settings. Create a configfile to change them
> ALSA:Can't subscribe to MIDI port (65:0)
> MIDI:Opened device:none

  The config I'll get to later.  My question right now is how do I get
midi connected.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which emulators for DOS+Win3.1 games?

2005-06-20 Thread Holly Bostick
Walter Dnes schreef:
> 
>   Finally got it running.  Since SDL is hooked into svgalib (at least on
> my system) I had to...
>   - modprobe svgalib_helper (which creates /dev/svga and /dev/svga1)
>   - chmod u+s /usr/games/bin/dosbox (with the usual security disclaimer)
>   - and remember that svgalib has to be emerged every time I rebuild the
> kernel
> 
>   My startup messages include...
> 
>>CONFIG: Using default settings. Create a configfile to change them
>>ALSA:Can't subscribe to MIDI port (65:0)
>>MIDI:Opened device:none
> 
> 
>   The config I'll get to later.  My question right now is how do I get
> midi connected.
> 

Easiest thing to do is install dboxfe (dosbox frontend) and configure
the settings there.

What is your MIDI setup (is MIDI currently running on your machine
without reference to dosbox)? I should have ALSA MIDI and Timidity set
up (I think), but I haven't tested as I don't offhand know what DOS
games/apps actually use MIDI. So if you happen to know of a piece of
abandonware that does, let me know and I'll try it, and if it works,
tell you how I did it (if simply setting DOSBox up correctly doesn't
work for you).

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which emulators for DOS+Win3.1 games?

2005-06-21 Thread Walter Dnes
On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 12:20:05PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote

> Easiest thing to do is install dboxfe (dosbox frontend) and configure
> the settings there.

  GUI config tools are for Minesweeper-Consultantants-Solitaire-Experts.
Real computer users edit config files.  Now that I got it going, I
simply ran config, and manually edited the resulting defaults.

> What is your MIDI setup (is MIDI currently running on your machine
> without reference to dosbox)? I should have ALSA MIDI and Timidity set

  What the bleep have they done to Timidity???  It *USED* to work
out-of-the-the-box in previous versions.  Now it's looking for some
"current" directory, and dies with an error.  If I comment out the line
"source current/timidity.cfg" in /etc/timidity.cfg it does attempt to
play, but generates a ton of messages like...

"No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 27 - this instrument will not be 
heard"

  I *DID* RTFM the timidity and timidity.cfg and there's *NOTHING* about
"current/timidity.cfg"

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Re: [gentoo-user] Which emulators for DOS+Win3.1 games?

2005-06-21 Thread Holly Bostick
Walter Dnes schreef:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2005 at 12:20:05PM +0200, Holly Bostick wrote
> 
>>What is your MIDI setup (is MIDI currently running on your machine
>>without reference to dosbox)? I should have ALSA MIDI and Timidity set
> 
> 
>   What the bleep have they done to Timidity???  It *USED* to work
> out-of-the-the-box in previous versions.  Now it's looking for some
> "current" directory, and dies with an error.  If I comment out the line
> "source current/timidity.cfg" in /etc/timidity.cfg it does attempt to
> play, but generates a ton of messages like...
> 
> "No instrument mapped to tone bank 0, program 27 - this instrument will not 
> be heard"
> 
>   I *DID* RTFM the timidity and timidity.cfg and there's *NOTHING* about
> "current/timidity.cfg"


Here's my /etc/timidity.cfg:

#
#  1.  Change directory to patch directory
#  2.  Source current/timidity.cfg
#
# Current patch set will always be symlinked to current, so make sure
that the
# proper timidity.cfg is in there
#
#
#  - source /usr/share/timidity
#  - source ~/.timidity/current
#  - Make ~/.timidity/current point to the current patch set, or to whatever
#the individual user sets
#  - If ~/.timidity/current isn't found, it will try
#/usr/share/timidity/current
#

dir /usr/share/timidity
dir ~/.timidity
source current/timidity.cfg

OK. I don't have a ~/.timidity, but /usr/share/timidity is there. As you
found, there is no /current directory, but since this whole thing refers
to patches, I can only assume that the /eawpatches folder-- which *is*
present-- would be what is desired (but what about me, who doesn't have
a bloody SoundBlaster? Do I need these patches? Can I use these patches?
I don't know). The eawpatches folder does contain a timidity.cfg,
further indicating that somebody simply forgot to change the name
(either of the folder, to /current, or of the setting, to point to
/eawpatches instead of /current).

So since you can set the 'patch folder' yourself, I would suggest
changing the setting to read

source eawpatches/timidity.cfg

and that looks like it would work. I know nothing about MIDI or
Timidity, so I wouldn't know if it was working anyway; I only installed
it because a game I was trying to install plays all the WAV files
properly, but not the MIDI, and I thought it might help. However, a) my
soundcard does have a Wavetable Synthesizer (so I shouldn't need to
emulate Midi); b) I fixed ALSA, which was set up wrong (so the internal
Midi should be working); and c) for all I know, it's a Wine/Cedega
problem anyway, and nothing to do with ALSA or Timidity. The point
being, we have now reached (and passed) the point where you know more
about this than I do, but I hope I've been helpful in giving you a boost
to a point where you can fix the remaining issues yourself :) .

Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Which emulators for DOS+Win3.1 games?

2005-06-21 Thread Walter Dnes
  Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  "find *eawpatches*"
didn't find a directory, but it did find...
/usr/portage/media-sound/timidity-eawpatches

  I emerged timidity-eawpatches.  At the end of the emerge was this
message...

 * You must run 'timidity-update -g -s eawpatches' to set this
 * patchset as the default system patchset.

  I did that, and timidity now plays just fine.  I wonder if there was a
similar message at the end of the timidity++ emerge.  I did a couple of
packages at once, so if there was a message, I missed it.

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