Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
* zhangwe...@realss.com zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: I always wonder if I can run firefox multi-process instead of multi-threads. No, it's now discussed for years, but nothing really happened yet. Actually, I doubt that it will ever happen. They didnt event get the plugins running in their own process - the major issues known for now about 10 years obviously dont matter ;-o I've looked into the issue a while ago, but the whole codebase is that extremly complex and fat that its far too much for doing it by just one person in spare time ;-o cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforce Patches / Fixes for a lot dozens of packages in dozens of versions: http://patches.metux.de/ -
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 08:27:15PM +0100, Etaoin Shrdlu wrote: On Sunday 15 February 2009, 05:10, Joshua Murphy wrote: Google Chrome's another that has this wonderful feature... and doesn't run on Linux (yet). And even when it will, I bet it would be under wine. Nope, it will be native linux using the gtk toolkit. http://groups.google.com/group/chromium-dev/msg/f3507e2ded99b354?pli=1 --- === TopperH http://topperh.blogspot.com === pgpGseA8ww7G0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:27:08 +0800 zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: I don't know if in China network is specially boardband otherwise how to explain the forums dare to allow dozens of hi-res photo posted in-line of messages and web designers dare to design websites with a front page of more than 3MB (e.g. our local tax office website contain huge picture and flash on the front-page with several hundreds of links on it). You can use on-demand loading for such content with firefox plugins like flashblock - it'll load flash only when you click on it. I bet there are plenty such plugins for images, as well. Also, you might consider disabling firefox cache (which I find quite slow) at all, using a proxy (like squid) to cache such a large static objects - it'll do much better job w/o any burden on your resources. Besides, it can cache static for whole your network, or communicate with other local proxies, taking advantage of their caches to speed up loading. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:27:08 +0800 zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: I don't know if in China network is specially boardband otherwise how to explain the forums dare to allow dozens of hi-res photo posted in-line of messages and web designers dare to design websites with a front page of more than 3MB (e.g. our local tax office website contain huge picture and flash on the front-page with several hundreds of links on it). Oh, and I've forgot to mention one trick, besides flashblock, to defend against cpu-intensive animation: disable animated gifs! I've noticed that large gifs can eat more CPU than this useless flash, and disabling them won't really degrade anything. Try setting 'image.animation_mode' (string) to 'none' in 'about:config'. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
On Sunday 15 February 2009 08:14:28 Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:27:08 +0800 zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: I don't know if in China network is specially boardband otherwise how to explain the forums dare to allow dozens of hi-res photo posted in-line of messages and web designers dare to design websites with a front page of more than 3MB (e.g. our local tax office website contain huge picture and flash on the front-page with several hundreds of links on it). You can use on-demand loading for such content with firefox plugins like flashblock - it'll load flash only when you click on it. I bet there are plenty such plugins for images, as well. I'll put a word in here for the NoScript and AdBlock extensions to Firefox. I'd imagine those are more-or-less essential in China - I certainly wouldn't like to be without them even here in UK. -- Rgds Peter
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
On Sonntag 15 Februar 2009, zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: konqueror it is better than ff anyway. Are you sure it runs multi-process? yes (without tabs I am sure) and with tabs, even when one tab is hanging, the others go on (at least with kde4.2).
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
On Sonntag 15 Februar 2009, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Sunday 15 February 2009 08:14:28 Mike Kazantsev wrote: On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 14:27:08 +0800 zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: I don't know if in China network is specially boardband otherwise how to explain the forums dare to allow dozens of hi-res photo posted in-line of messages and web designers dare to design websites with a front page of more than 3MB (e.g. our local tax office website contain huge picture and flash on the front-page with several hundreds of links on it). You can use on-demand loading for such content with firefox plugins like flashblock - it'll load flash only when you click on it. I bet there are plenty such plugins for images, as well. I'll put a word in here for the NoScript and AdBlock extensions to Firefox. I'd imagine those are more-or-less essential in China - I certainly wouldn't like to be without them even here in UK. of course konqueror can block ads and scripts without 'extensions'
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
On Sunday 15 February 2009, 05:10, Joshua Murphy wrote: Google Chrome's another that has this wonderful feature... and doesn't run on Linux (yet). And even when it will, I bet it would be under wine.
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
* Volker Armin Hemmann (volkerar...@googlemail.com) [15.02.09 15:45]: of course konqueror can block ads and scripts without 'extensions' Well, since you have to install most of the kde stuff *and* mysql: definetly a no go... Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx s...@sti@N GÜNTHER mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de pgpu85jrfEWRE.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Sonntag 15 Februar 2009, Sebastian Günther wrote: * Volker Armin Hemmann (volkerar...@googlemail.com) [15.02.09 15:45]: of course konqueror can block ads and scripts without 'extensions' Well, since you have to install most of the kde stuff *and* mysql: definetly a no go... Sebastian except - you don't.
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
* Volker Armin Hemmann (volkerar...@googlemail.com) [15.02.09 23:31]: On Sonntag 15 Februar 2009, Sebastian Günther wrote: * Volker Armin Hemmann (volkerar...@googlemail.com) [15.02.09 15:45]: of course konqueror can block ads and scripts without 'extensions' Well, since you have to install most of the kde stuff *and* mysql: definetly a no go... Sebastian except - you don't. sam...@marvin ~ $ emerge -pvt konqueror These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order: Calculating dependencies... done! emerge: there are no ebuilds built with USE flags to satisfy x11-libs/qt-sql:4[mysql]. !!! One of the following packages is required to complete your request: - x11-libs/qt-sql-4.5.0_rc1 (Change USE: +mysql) (dependency required by app-office/akonadi-server-1.1.1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.2.0 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/kpasswdserver-4.2.0 [ebuild]) (dependency required by kde-base/konqueror-4.2.0-r1 [ebuild]) (dependency required by konqueror [argument]) Well, this somehow states the opposite. Which useflag magic do I have to use to achieve that goal? Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx s...@sti@N GÜNTHER mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de pgpOOI1ulUzGR.pgp Description: PGP signature
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On Sunday 15 February 2009 22:57:24 Sebastian Günther wrote: Which useflag magic do I have to use to achieve that goal? -mysql Seems ebuilds have the ability to turn on use flags for themselves that the user has given no preference to. Turn it off, and it's off. -- Mike Williams
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* Mike Williams (m...@gaima.co.uk) [16.02.09 00:50]: On Sunday 15 February 2009 22:57:24 Sebastian Günther wrote: Which useflag magic do I have to use to achieve that goal? -mysql Seems ebuilds have the ability to turn on use flags for themselves that the user has given no preference to. Turn it off, and it's off. Thank you that helped! But still the 23 new packages from kde will let me stay with ff... Sebastian -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. Karl Marx s...@sti@N GÜNTHER mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de pgpTmlhEnla7W.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
On Sonntag 15 Februar 2009, zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: I always wonder if I can run firefox multi-process instead of multi-threads. I hate to see the browser hang trying to open a huge webpage (10MB) and that's frequent case in China. Usually at such case I have to lanuch a different browser (e.g. epiphany) in order to keep browsing during loading the big page in Fx. And I think, if fx is itself multi-processed, then each tab or window I open is a process, then it is pretty much alike that I open eiphany when firefox is busy. It should work better. If this is not possible just with a USE flag, is there a browser that works in Gentoo and is designed to be mult-process? I only know safari is multi-process (per window) but it doesn't work on Gentoo. konqueror it is better than ff anyway.
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 10:57 PM, zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: I always wonder if I can run firefox multi-process instead of multi-threads. I hate to see the browser hang trying to open a huge webpage (10MB) and that's frequent case in China. Usually at such case I have to lanuch a different browser (e.g. epiphany) in order to keep browsing during loading the big page in Fx. And I think, if fx is itself multi-processed, then each tab or window I open is a process, then it is pretty much alike that I open eiphany when firefox is busy. It should work better. If this is not possible just with a USE flag, is there a browser that works in Gentoo and is designed to be mult-process? I only know safari is multi-process (per window) but it doesn't work on Gentoo. -- Real Softservice Huateng Tower, Unit 1788 Jia 302 3rd area of Jinsong, Chao Yang Tel: +86 (10) 8773 0650 ext 603 Mobile: 159 7382 http://www.realss.com Google Chrome's another that has this wonderful feature... and doesn't run on Linux (yet). -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
An interesting project that has come up is called Crossover Chromium, which is a specially packaged version of Chrome and Wine, but yeah in the meantime Konqueror does a pretty good job even if it does render slightly differently on my system. On Feb 14, 2009 11:11 PM, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 14, 2009 at 10:57 PM, zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: I always wonder if I can run fi... Google Chrome's another that has this wonderful feature... and doesn't run on Linux (yet). -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
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090215 zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: Can I run firefox multi-process instead of multi-threads. I hate to see the browser hang trying to open a huge webpage ( 10 MB ) A work-around is to download the file with Wget or Lynx, then open the result with Firefox after it has all arrived. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: konqueror it is better than ff anyway. Are you sure it runs multi-process?
Re: [gentoo-user] a multi-process browser?
Philip Webb schrieb: 090215 zhangwe...@realss.com wrote: Can I run firefox multi-process instead of multi-threads. I hate to see the browser hang trying to open a huge webpage ( 10 MB ) A work-around is to download the file with Wget or Lynx, then open the result with Firefox after it has all arrived. Yes, but then you already know the page is 10MB, right? Usually such devil come as a surprise when you click open a google search result. I don't know if in China network is specially boardband otherwise how to explain the forums dare to allow dozens of hi-res photo posted in-line of messages and web designers dare to design websites with a front page of more than 3MB (e.g. our local tax office website contain huge picture and flash on the front-page with several hundreds of links on it).
