Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?

2009-06-28 Thread Mick
On Saturday 27 June 2009, Mark Knecht wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Jacob Toddjaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
  You need to emerge xorg-server.

 I'm about half way through now.

Isn't it correct to say that you just need to emerge x11-base/xorg-x11, which 
will pull in x11-base/xorg-server by default (unless you have some fancy USE 
flags setup).
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Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?

2009-06-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:00:55 +0100, Mick wrote:

 Isn't it correct to say that you just need to emerge x11-base/xorg-x11,
 which will pull in x11-base/xorg-server by default (unless you have
 some fancy USE flags setup).

It will also pull in a shedload of dependencies, being a meta
package,something that is not likely to appeal to the typical
Fluxbox user.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you wont
either. -


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Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?

2009-06-28 Thread Mick
On Sunday 28 June 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:00:55 +0100, Mick wrote:
  Isn't it correct to say that you just need to emerge x11-base/xorg-x11,
  which will pull in x11-base/xorg-server by default (unless you have
  some fancy USE flags setup).

 It will also pull in a shedload of dependencies, being a meta
 package,something that is not likely to appeal to the typical
 Fluxbox user.

Hmm ... I must have been doing this wrong then? 8-/

What's the 'right' way of installing Xorg on a machine that runs FB as a WM?

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Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?

2009-06-28 Thread Mark Knecht
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:00:55 +0100, Mick wrote:

 Isn't it correct to say that you just need to emerge x11-base/xorg-x11,
 which will pull in x11-base/xorg-server by default (unless you have
 some fancy USE flags setup).

 It will also pull in a shedload of dependencies, being a meta
 package,something that is not likely to appeal to the typical
 Fluxbox user.


 --
 Neil Bothwick


Exactly. My use of fluxbox on this machine was to test that X is even
working over S-Video. (It is.) My goal after that was to emerge MythTV
again and try running that. That causes X to crash for MTRR problems
so that would be today's goal. This didn't used to happen with my old
kernel and the fglrx driver so probably I haven't configured the
kernel correctly?

With xorg-server  fluxbox emerged I only needed about 20 packages to
get Myth installed so I agree that xorg-x11 pulls in a bunch of stuff
I probably don't need.

I would have emerged xorg-x11 if I hadn't been reading through the
xorg config guide once again and seen that this was an option. I'm not
sure the other stuff is big, but it's a lot of packages.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?

2009-06-28 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:22:14 +0100, Mick wrote:

 What's the 'right' way of installing Xorg on a machine that runs FB as
 a WM?

Install xorg-server, anything else that's needed will be installed as a
dependency of xorg-server or your client software. The xorg-x11 meta
package was,AFAIR, created for backwards compatibility for old ebuilds
that still depended on the old monolithic package.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Celery is not food. It is a member of the plywood family.


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Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?

2009-06-28 Thread Mick
On Sunday 28 June 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:22:14 +0100, Mick wrote:
  What's the 'right' way of installing Xorg on a machine that runs FB as
  a WM?

 Install xorg-server, anything else that's needed will be installed as a
 dependency of xorg-server or your client software. The xorg-x11 meta
 package was,AFAIR, created for backwards compatibility for old ebuilds
 that still depended on the old monolithic package.

Oh I see, thanks for this!  I had it the other way around in my head.

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Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?

2009-06-26 Thread Jacob Todd
You need to emerge xorg-server.

On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 03:33:54PM -0700, Mark Knecht wrote:
 Just curious. The fluxbox ebuild doesn't emerge xorg-server which
 means I now have a machine with fluxbox emerged but I don't know how
 to start it as there is no xstart on the machine.
 
 What would be the lightest way to get X running right now? man
 startfluxbox suggests  fluxbox can be started from .xsession if I use
 xdm and xdm doesn't seem to require very much be emerged so I'm doing
 that now.
 
 The purpose of this experiment is that if I get X going then I have a
 chance of seeing whether the the Open Source ati-driver TV feature out
 actually works for my 9100 IGP chipset.
 
 Thanks in advance,
 Mark
 

-- 
Jake Todd
// If it isn't broke, tweak it!


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Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?

2009-06-26 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Jacob Toddjaketodd...@gmail.com wrote:
 You need to emerge xorg-server.


I'm about half way through now.

Thanks,
Mark