Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
Hi, According to the genkernel.log, it would be the problem that someone posted on forum with solution. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-858613-highlight-.html Just a word, I have been using genkernel for years and satisfy with it. -- Regards, Kenny Cheng On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 1:52 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: So, my habit is to have /usr sit on top of LVM on top of mdraid. I really don't want to get into the business of manually managing my own initramfs, and udev = 181 will eventually hit stable. I want my systems ready before that. Now, having looked at the pertinent documentation, it looks like the command I need to run is: genkernel --lvm --mdadm --disklabel initramfs and then add the initramfs to my grub setup. The trouble is, genkernel dies on me. I tried for some feedback in #gentoo-chat, and DrEeevil gave me two clues: 13:34 +DrEeevil that shouldn't even be possible 13:36 +DrEeevil mikemol: looks like static linking didn't on your system I don't know where to take things from here. I'm hesitant to file a bug on b.g.o, because the tail end of genkernel.log specifically says not to file build errors as bug reports. So...any ideas? This is an amd64 mostly-stable system, and dracut is still masked on amd64, which is why I'm trying to get genkernel working. I've attached genkernel.log -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Mol wrote:
To the OP. I would use dracut. I ran into trouble but I found out
later that a earlier attempt at a init thingy was causing the dracut
init thingy to mess up. I strongly suspect that if I had known to get
rid of the previous attempt, it would have worked the first time. My
previous attempt was the one that was built into the kernel itself.
Lets just say there was a huge fight and I missed it. Grub was telling
one thing to load and the kernel was trying to load something else. I'm
sure it was a nice fight.
The principal reason I'm not using dracut:
* sys-kernel/dracut
Available versions: ~014-r2!t ~017-r1!t ~017-r2!t ~017-r3!t
~018!t {debug device-mapper dracut_modules_biosdevname
dracut_modules_btrfs dracut_modules_caps dracut_modules_crypt
dracut_modules_crypt-gpg dracut_modules_dmraid
dracut_modules_dmsquash-live dracut_modules_gensplash
dracut_modules_iscsi dracut_modules_livenet dracut_modules_lvm
dracut_modules_mdraid dracut_modules_multipath dracut_modules_nbd
dracut_modules_nfs dracut_modules_plymouth dracut_modules_ssh-client
dracut_modules_syslog net selinux}
Homepage:http://dracut.wiki.kernel.org
Description: Generic initramfs generation tool
None of the versions have been marked stable. Genkernel, on the other hand, has.
--
:wq
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Mol wrote:
To the OP. I would use dracut. I ran into trouble but I found out
later that a earlier attempt at a init thingy was causing the dracut
init thingy to mess up. I strongly suspect that if I had known to get
rid of the previous attempt, it would have worked the first time. My
previous attempt was the one that was built into the kernel itself.
Lets just say there was a huge fight and I missed it. Grub was telling
one thing to load and the kernel was trying to load something else. I'm
sure it was a nice fight.
The principal reason I'm not using dracut:
* sys-kernel/dracut
Available versions: ~014-r2!t ~017-r1!t ~017-r2!t ~017-r3!t
~018!t {debug device-mapper dracut_modules_biosdevname
dracut_modules_btrfs dracut_modules_caps dracut_modules_crypt
dracut_modules_crypt-gpg dracut_modules_dmraid
dracut_modules_dmsquash-live dracut_modules_gensplash
dracut_modules_iscsi dracut_modules_livenet dracut_modules_lvm
dracut_modules_mdraid dracut_modules_multipath dracut_modules_nbd
dracut_modules_nfs dracut_modules_plymouth dracut_modules_ssh-client
dracut_modules_syslog net selinux}
Homepage: http://dracut.wiki.kernel.org
Description: Generic initramfs generation tool
None of the versions have been marked stable. Genkernel, on the other hand,
has.
That makes almost no sense. You say that you are planning on using an
initramfs because udev = 181 will eventually hit stable. That for
sure will *not* happen *before* dracut hits stable.
I would try dracut. Besides, as I said in another similar thread, an
initramfs is one of the most secure things to prove: you add a new
entry in grub-legacy/GRUB2, and try to boot. Doesn't work? Get back to
your previous entry.
Dracut depends on udev-164; everything else on its depend list is
stable, I believe. Try it, and if doesn't work easily, go back to
genkernel.
Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Mol wrote:
To the OP. I would use dracut. I ran into trouble but I found out
later that a earlier attempt at a init thingy was causing the dracut
init thingy to mess up. I strongly suspect that if I had known to get
rid of the previous attempt, it would have worked the first time. My
previous attempt was the one that was built into the kernel itself.
Lets just say there was a huge fight and I missed it. Grub was telling
one thing to load and the kernel was trying to load something else. I'm
sure it was a nice fight.
The principal reason I'm not using dracut:
* sys-kernel/dracut
Available versions: ~014-r2!t ~017-r1!t ~017-r2!t ~017-r3!t
~018!t {debug device-mapper dracut_modules_biosdevname
dracut_modules_btrfs dracut_modules_caps dracut_modules_crypt
dracut_modules_crypt-gpg dracut_modules_dmraid
dracut_modules_dmsquash-live dracut_modules_gensplash
dracut_modules_iscsi dracut_modules_livenet dracut_modules_lvm
dracut_modules_mdraid dracut_modules_multipath dracut_modules_nbd
dracut_modules_nfs dracut_modules_plymouth dracut_modules_ssh-client
dracut_modules_syslog net selinux}
Homepage:http://dracut.wiki.kernel.org
Description: Generic initramfs generation tool
None of the versions have been marked stable. Genkernel, on the other hand,
has.
That makes almost no sense. You say that you are planning on using an
initramfs because udev = 181 will eventually hit stable. That for
sure will *not* happen *before* dracut hits stable.
I would try dracut. Besides, as I said in another similar thread, an
initramfs is one of the most secure things to prove: you add a new
entry in grub-legacy/GRUB2, and try to boot. Doesn't work? Get back to
your previous entry.
Dracut depends on udev-164; everything else on its depend list is
stable, I believe. Try it, and if doesn't work easily, go back to
genkernel.
Regards.
I was thinking the same thing. As everyone knows, I did my switch a
week or so ago. I found it funny that someone wants to get ahead of the
future without using future tools. Of course, there is more than one
way to skin this cat too. ;-)
I might also add, genkernel is stable and has been for ages. It's been
a while since I tried it but the last time I did, it failed miserably.
It 'claimed' everything worked fine but when I booted, it failed. I got
the old blinky keyboard lights treatment. :/
Just because something isn't marked stable doesn't mean it doesn't work.
I would guess that half the stuff on my system as I type, is not
stable. That would include all of KDE, portage and related tools plus
no telling how many other deps that got pulled in.
Time to eat. That init thingy sucked it out of me a while back. After
a week of snacking on quick junk food, I'm hungry. I actually went
outside yesterday. o_O
Dale
:-) :-)
--
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
how you interpreted my words!
Miss the compile output? Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
So you solved it. It would be nice then to adorn your subject lines with a [solved] tag, to avoid further getting mails with comments that are obsolete. michael -- Michael Scherer Univ.klinik f. Psychiatrie email: michael.sche...@meduniwien.ac.at phone: +43 6991 941 22 54 - Original Message - From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Tuesday, 24 April, 2012 01:43 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs Michael Scherer wrote: On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:01:09 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Scherer wrote: On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:26:57 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: So, my habit is to have /usr sit on top of LVM on top of mdraid. I really don't want to get into the business of manually managing my own initramfs, and udev = 181 will eventually hit stable. I want my systems ready before that. Now, having looked at the pertinent documentation, it looks like the command I need to run is: genkernel --lvm --mdadm --disklabel initramfs and then add the initramfs to my grub setup. The trouble is, genkernel dies on me. I tried for some feedback in #gentoo-chat, and DrEeevil gave me two clues: 13:34 +DrEeevil that shouldn't even be possible 13:36 +DrEeevil mikemol: looks like static linking didn't on your system I don't know where to take things from here. I'm hesitant to file a bug on b.g.o, because the tail end of genkernel.log specifically says not to file build errors as bug reports. So...any ideas? This is an amd64 mostly-stable system, and dracut is still masked on amd64, which is why I'm trying to get genkernel working. I've attached genkernel.log If I read the -dev mailing list correctly, they plan to still support /usr without a init thingy. After all the mess I went through, we may not need the init thingy after all. Go figure. Dale :-) :-) I wouldn't bet on that. But there is a detailed gentoo howto to create an iniramfs that does just that: load /usr. http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Early_Userspace_Mounting It works. You only need tell your bootloader that now you have an initramfs. There's also a more general introduction http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs for a lot of other options michael I'm not betting on it but that is what the Gentoo council voted on and it said that /usr on a separate partition was going to be supported. You must have missed the HUGE thread where I was trying to get a init thingy to work huh? Dale :-) :-) Indeed, I missed all but one email, but there was no hint at all that anything had been said before I came in. Sorry for my unsolicited comments, and I hope you have solved that problem in one or another way. michael I meant to put a LOL after the comment about the huge thread. I'm not sure how I missed that. :/ I did get it to work finally. It took several peoples help and a hammer on my part. ;-) I'm just curious as to how they are going to support this in the future. I have read where some say it can be done but others say it can't, or not easily. Old saying, this is where the rubber meets the road. ^_^ To the OP. I would use dracut. I ran into trouble but I found out later that a earlier attempt at a init thingy was causing the dracut init thingy to mess up. I strongly suspect that if I had known to get rid of the previous attempt, it would have worked the first time. My previous attempt was the one that was built into the kernel itself. Lets just say there was a huge fight and I missed it. Grub was telling one thing to load and the kernel was trying to load something else. I'm sure it was a nice fight. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 9:20 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 7:43 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Mol wrote:
To the OP. I would use dracut. I ran into trouble but I found out
later that a earlier attempt at a init thingy was causing the dracut
init thingy to mess up. I strongly suspect that if I had known to get
rid of the previous attempt, it would have worked the first time. My
previous attempt was the one that was built into the kernel itself.
Lets just say there was a huge fight and I missed it. Grub was telling
one thing to load and the kernel was trying to load something else. I'm
sure it was a nice fight.
The principal reason I'm not using dracut:
* sys-kernel/dracut
Available versions: ~014-r2!t ~017-r1!t ~017-r2!t ~017-r3!t
~018!t {debug device-mapper dracut_modules_biosdevname
dracut_modules_btrfs dracut_modules_caps dracut_modules_crypt
dracut_modules_crypt-gpg dracut_modules_dmraid
dracut_modules_dmsquash-live dracut_modules_gensplash
dracut_modules_iscsi dracut_modules_livenet dracut_modules_lvm
dracut_modules_mdraid dracut_modules_multipath dracut_modules_nbd
dracut_modules_nfs dracut_modules_plymouth dracut_modules_ssh-client
dracut_modules_syslog net selinux}
Homepage: http://dracut.wiki.kernel.org
Description: Generic initramfs generation tool
None of the versions have been marked stable. Genkernel, on the other hand,
has.
That makes almost no sense. You say that you are planning on using an
initramfs because udev = 181 will eventually hit stable. That for
sure will *not* happen *before* dracut hits stable.
I would try dracut. Besides, as I said in another similar thread, an
initramfs is one of the most secure things to prove: you add a new
entry in grub-legacy/GRUB2, and try to boot. Doesn't work? Get back to
your previous entry.
When dracut hits stable, sure, I'll give it a shot.
In the mean time, I get enough headaches from running a mostly-stable
package set. I was once berated for mixing stable and unstable, and
then having the gall to file a bug report when stable emacs wouldn't
build with libpng15 prior to libpng's landing stable, so I try to keep
my usage of unstable packages to a minimum. I don't want to run a full
~amd64 setup, because I don't want to deal with the headaches of being
a full beta tester.
Unless I have a strong and compelling reason to unmask a package and
risk having to unmask dependent versions for it, I won't. For the
moment, I don't.
Dracut depends on udev-164; everything else on its depend list is
stable, I believe. Try it, and if doesn't work easily, go back to
genkernel.
It took me over a month before I found time to try genkernel. And that
only happened because I'm stuck at home trying to recover from a sinus
infection and fever.
--
:wq
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I might also add, genkernel is stable and has been for ages. It's been a while since I tried it but the last time I did, it failed miserably. It 'claimed' everything worked fine but when I booted, it failed. I got the old blinky keyboard lights treatment. :/ Just because something isn't marked stable doesn't mean it doesn't work. I would guess that half the stuff on my system as I type, is not stable. That would include all of KDE, portage and related tools plus no telling how many other deps that got pulled in. Oh, certainly. Sometimes, I have to unmask packages (or versions thereof) because I know of upstream fixes I want or need. As a general rule, though, I avoid doing it unless I have specific, strong and compelling need. Time to eat. That init thingy sucked it out of me a while back. After a week of snacking on quick junk food, I'm hungry. I actually went outside yesterday. o_O Beautiful spring weather up here in Michigan, clear skies and everything. I just hope it stays something like this for my wedding in a couple weeks. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
Michael Mol wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I might also add, genkernel is stable and has been for ages. It's been a while since I tried it but the last time I did, it failed miserably. It 'claimed' everything worked fine but when I booted, it failed. I got the old blinky keyboard lights treatment. :/ Just because something isn't marked stable doesn't mean it doesn't work. I would guess that half the stuff on my system as I type, is not stable. That would include all of KDE, portage and related tools plus no telling how many other deps that got pulled in. Oh, certainly. Sometimes, I have to unmask packages (or versions thereof) because I know of upstream fixes I want or need. As a general rule, though, I avoid doing it unless I have specific, strong and compelling need. This could be one of those times. The trouble I ran into became clear later on. I had tried to build a init thingy that was built into the kernel. It didn't work right so I left it behind. Thing is, I forgot to disable that in the kernel config. So, I was building a kernel with a broken init thingy and telling grub to use the init thingy built by dracut. Can you imagine the fist fight that was being had? I type all that to say this, unmask dracut, run dracut, add the init thingy to your grub line. I'm more sure that it will work than I am of genkernel. Time to eat. That init thingy sucked it out of me a while back. After a week of snacking on quick junk food, I'm hungry. I actually went outside yesterday. o_O Beautiful spring weather up here in Michigan, clear skies and everything. I just hope it stays something like this for my wedding in a couple weeks. I hope you have good weather too. I just been having health issues, again. It's been a rough week or so. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:35 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] I might also add, genkernel is stable and has been for ages. It's been a while since I tried it but the last time I did, it failed miserably. It 'claimed' everything worked fine but when I booted, it failed. I got the old blinky keyboard lights treatment. :/ Just because something isn't marked stable doesn't mean it doesn't work. I would guess that half the stuff on my system as I type, is not stable. That would include all of KDE, portage and related tools plus no telling how many other deps that got pulled in. Oh, certainly. Sometimes, I have to unmask packages (or versions thereof) because I know of upstream fixes I want or need. As a general rule, though, I avoid doing it unless I have specific, strong and compelling need. This could be one of those times. The trouble I ran into became clear later on. I had tried to build a init thingy that was built into the kernel. It didn't work right so I left it behind. Thing is, I forgot to disable that in the kernel config. So, I was building a kernel with a broken init thingy and telling grub to use the init thingy built by dracut. Can you imagine the fist fight that was being had? I followed the thread; there's very little on this list I don't read, or at least skim. :) I type all that to say this, unmask dracut, run dracut, add the init thingy to your grub line. I'm more sure that it will work than I am of genkernel. I'm pretty stubborn, and I tend to follow a depth-first search algorithm while debugging, backtracking only when I hit a dead end. It can take me longer than, say, a distro-hopper, but I like that I come out with a better understanding of whatever it is I've been banging my head on. The genkernel docs say that if static versions of the requisite packages don't exist, it will build them. If adding the 'static' USE flags under /etc/portage/package.use fixes this use case of genkernel, then I've got a valid bug to report, and the thing can get fixed. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
Michael Mol wrote: So, my habit is to have /usr sit on top of LVM on top of mdraid. I really don't want to get into the business of manually managing my own initramfs, and udev = 181 will eventually hit stable. I want my systems ready before that. Now, having looked at the pertinent documentation, it looks like the command I need to run is: genkernel --lvm --mdadm --disklabel initramfs and then add the initramfs to my grub setup. The trouble is, genkernel dies on me. I tried for some feedback in #gentoo-chat, and DrEeevil gave me two clues: 13:34 +DrEeevil that shouldn't even be possible 13:36 +DrEeevil mikemol: looks like static linking didn't on your system I don't know where to take things from here. I'm hesitant to file a bug on b.g.o, because the tail end of genkernel.log specifically says not to file build errors as bug reports. So...any ideas? This is an amd64 mostly-stable system, and dracut is still masked on amd64, which is why I'm trying to get genkernel working. I've attached genkernel.log If I read the -dev mailing list correctly, they plan to still support /usr without a init thingy. After all the mess I went through, we may not need the init thingy after all. Go figure. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 23.04.2012 19:52, Michael Mol wrote: So, my habit is to have /usr sit on top of LVM on top of mdraid. I really don't want to get into the business of manually managing my own initramfs, and udev = 181 will eventually hit stable. I want my systems ready before that. Now, having looked at the pertinent documentation, it looks like the command I need to run is: genkernel --lvm --mdadm --disklabel initramfs and then add the initramfs to my grub setup. The trouble is, genkernel dies on me. I tried for some feedback in #gentoo-chat, and DrEeevil gave me two clues: 13:34 +DrEeevil that shouldn't even be possible 13:36 +DrEeevil mikemol: looks like static linking didn't on your system I don't know where to take things from here. I'm hesitant to file a bug on b.g.o, because the tail end of genkernel.log specifically says not to file build errors as bug reports. So...any ideas? This is an amd64 mostly-stable system, and dracut is still masked on amd64, which is why I'm trying to get genkernel working. I've attached genkernel.log You could try to add: sys-apps/busybox static sys-fs/mdadm static sys-fs/lvm2 static to your package.use and re-emerge the three packages. Afterwards try it again and see what happens... WKR Hinnerk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJPlcVQAAoJEJwwOFaNFkYcY2AH/3C4KNg1zcxT6o1BpV+/vIlT Cj2cpnEskUr2t7IscVAYGRln8EkAnQS1900rwtmEl2tPaf/4TcDEgMkD2nDS6zNz d3Qjz64bwVT56oIKW1+n1E+hVyHvswIaVQdr4scxqVMAhlRntXxHwl+VZqsAPL3e JJeNdubmJrdXPW+EPi62w6et/RV4NNBv6yOyqjjeuMdi3io/rHwVaueDJqcS/2hn BVabY8Z6HdiguzAAzqH+/m/Mfk7Jpd9Dg/J73a4jnnHwR/BYAdtcq6QETYQLqaGR wtjw4rJdpHqWymDMcvpwoZCrkRJMhPaGlZUD0bXVzp6Je0OkDq+DS3AyDy5BgKQ= =snDA -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:26:57 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: So, my habit is to have /usr sit on top of LVM on top of mdraid. I really don't want to get into the business of manually managing my own initramfs, and udev = 181 will eventually hit stable. I want my systems ready before that. Now, having looked at the pertinent documentation, it looks like the command I need to run is: genkernel --lvm --mdadm --disklabel initramfs and then add the initramfs to my grub setup. The trouble is, genkernel dies on me. I tried for some feedback in #gentoo-chat, and DrEeevil gave me two clues: 13:34 +DrEeevil that shouldn't even be possible 13:36 +DrEeevil mikemol: looks like static linking didn't on your system I don't know where to take things from here. I'm hesitant to file a bug on b.g.o, because the tail end of genkernel.log specifically says not to file build errors as bug reports. So...any ideas? This is an amd64 mostly-stable system, and dracut is still masked on amd64, which is why I'm trying to get genkernel working. I've attached genkernel.log If I read the -dev mailing list correctly, they plan to still support /usr without a init thingy. After all the mess I went through, we may not need the init thingy after all. Go figure. Dale :-) :-) I wouldn't bet on that. But there is a detailed gentoo howto to create an iniramfs that does just that: load /usr. http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Early_Userspace_Mounting It works. You only need tell your bootloader that now you have an initramfs. There's also a more general introduction http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs for a lot of other options michael
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
Michael Scherer wrote: On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:26:57 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: So, my habit is to have /usr sit on top of LVM on top of mdraid. I really don't want to get into the business of manually managing my own initramfs, and udev = 181 will eventually hit stable. I want my systems ready before that. Now, having looked at the pertinent documentation, it looks like the command I need to run is: genkernel --lvm --mdadm --disklabel initramfs and then add the initramfs to my grub setup. The trouble is, genkernel dies on me. I tried for some feedback in #gentoo-chat, and DrEeevil gave me two clues: 13:34 +DrEeevil that shouldn't even be possible 13:36 +DrEeevil mikemol: looks like static linking didn't on your system I don't know where to take things from here. I'm hesitant to file a bug on b.g.o, because the tail end of genkernel.log specifically says not to file build errors as bug reports. So...any ideas? This is an amd64 mostly-stable system, and dracut is still masked on amd64, which is why I'm trying to get genkernel working. I've attached genkernel.log If I read the -dev mailing list correctly, they plan to still support /usr without a init thingy. After all the mess I went through, we may not need the init thingy after all. Go figure. Dale :-) :-) I wouldn't bet on that. But there is a detailed gentoo howto to create an iniramfs that does just that: load /usr. http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Early_Userspace_Mounting It works. You only need tell your bootloader that now you have an initramfs. There's also a more general introduction http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs for a lot of other options michael I'm not betting on it but that is what the Gentoo council voted on and it said that /usr on a separate partition was going to be supported. You must have missed the HUGE thread where I was trying to get a init thingy to work huh? Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:52:41 -0400, Michael Mol wrote: So, my habit is to have /usr sit on top of LVM on top of mdraid. I really don't want to get into the business of manually managing my own initramfs, The kernel make process can create the initramfs for you, although you have to give it a configuration and init file to work with. Everything else is done automatically, including the current versions of all required files in the kernel. -- Neil Bothwick What colour is a chameleon on a mirror? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:01:09 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Scherer wrote: On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:26:57 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: So, my habit is to have /usr sit on top of LVM on top of mdraid. I really don't want to get into the business of manually managing my own initramfs, and udev = 181 will eventually hit stable. I want my systems ready before that. Now, having looked at the pertinent documentation, it looks like the command I need to run is: genkernel --lvm --mdadm --disklabel initramfs and then add the initramfs to my grub setup. The trouble is, genkernel dies on me. I tried for some feedback in #gentoo-chat, and DrEeevil gave me two clues: 13:34 +DrEeevil that shouldn't even be possible 13:36 +DrEeevil mikemol: looks like static linking didn't on your system I don't know where to take things from here. I'm hesitant to file a bug on b.g.o, because the tail end of genkernel.log specifically says not to file build errors as bug reports. So...any ideas? This is an amd64 mostly-stable system, and dracut is still masked on amd64, which is why I'm trying to get genkernel working. I've attached genkernel.log If I read the -dev mailing list correctly, they plan to still support /usr without a init thingy. After all the mess I went through, we may not need the init thingy after all. Go figure. Dale :-) :-) I wouldn't bet on that. But there is a detailed gentoo howto to create an iniramfs that does just that: load /usr. http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Early_Userspace_Mounting It works. You only need tell your bootloader that now you have an initramfs. There's also a more general introduction http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs for a lot of other options michael I'm not betting on it but that is what the Gentoo council voted on and it said that /usr on a separate partition was going to be supported. You must have missed the HUGE thread where I was trying to get a init thingy to work huh? Dale :-) :-) Indeed, I missed all but one email, but there was no hint at all that anything had been said before I came in. Sorry for my unsolicited comments, and I hope you have solved that problem in one or another way. michael
Re: [gentoo-user] genkernel assistance building initramfs
Michael Scherer wrote: On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 18:01:09 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Scherer wrote: On Mon, 23 Apr 2012 13:26:57 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: So, my habit is to have /usr sit on top of LVM on top of mdraid. I really don't want to get into the business of manually managing my own initramfs, and udev = 181 will eventually hit stable. I want my systems ready before that. Now, having looked at the pertinent documentation, it looks like the command I need to run is: genkernel --lvm --mdadm --disklabel initramfs and then add the initramfs to my grub setup. The trouble is, genkernel dies on me. I tried for some feedback in #gentoo-chat, and DrEeevil gave me two clues: 13:34 +DrEeevil that shouldn't even be possible 13:36 +DrEeevil mikemol: looks like static linking didn't on your system I don't know where to take things from here. I'm hesitant to file a bug on b.g.o, because the tail end of genkernel.log specifically says not to file build errors as bug reports. So...any ideas? This is an amd64 mostly-stable system, and dracut is still masked on amd64, which is why I'm trying to get genkernel working. I've attached genkernel.log If I read the -dev mailing list correctly, they plan to still support /usr without a init thingy. After all the mess I went through, we may not need the init thingy after all. Go figure. Dale :-) :-) I wouldn't bet on that. But there is a detailed gentoo howto to create an iniramfs that does just that: load /usr. http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Early_Userspace_Mounting It works. You only need tell your bootloader that now you have an initramfs. There's also a more general introduction http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Initramfs for a lot of other options michael I'm not betting on it but that is what the Gentoo council voted on and it said that /usr on a separate partition was going to be supported. You must have missed the HUGE thread where I was trying to get a init thingy to work huh? Dale :-) :-) Indeed, I missed all but one email, but there was no hint at all that anything had been said before I came in. Sorry for my unsolicited comments, and I hope you have solved that problem in one or another way. michael I meant to put a LOL after the comment about the huge thread. I'm not sure how I missed that. :/ I did get it to work finally. It took several peoples help and a hammer on my part. ;-) I'm just curious as to how they are going to support this in the future. I have read where some say it can be done but others say it can't, or not easily. Old saying, this is where the rubber meets the road. ^_^ To the OP. I would use dracut. I ran into trouble but I found out later that a earlier attempt at a init thingy was causing the dracut init thingy to mess up. I strongly suspect that if I had known to get rid of the previous attempt, it would have worked the first time. My previous attempt was the one that was built into the kernel itself. Lets just say there was a huge fight and I missed it. Grub was telling one thing to load and the kernel was trying to load something else. I'm sure it was a nice fight. Dale :-) :-) -- I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or how you interpreted my words! Miss the compile output? Hint: EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=--quiet-build=n
