Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

чт, 14 июл. 2022 г. в 10:53, Michael :
>
> On Thursday, 14 July 2022 07:19:14 BST gevisz wrote:
> > пт, 11 мар. 2022 г. в 20:15, gevisz :
> > > пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 00:15, gevisz :
> > > > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 21:15, Dale :
> > > > > gevisz wrote:
> > > > > > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> > > > > >> gevisz wrote:
> > > > > >>> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is
> > > > > >>> currently
> > > > > >>> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years
> > > > > >> ago,
> > > > > >> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to
> > > > > >> mute.
> > > > > >> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I
> > > > > >> did my
> > > > > >> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> > > > > >> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think
> > > > > >> I had
> > > > > >> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level
> > > > > >> once
> > > > > >> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the
> > > > > >> one I
> > > > > >> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control
> > > > > >> things
> > > > > >> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case
> > > > > >> there is
> > > > > >> a muted setting somewhere.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but
> > > > > > what?
> > > > > > I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.
> > > > >
> > > > > Type in alsamixer in a console or whatever you use and hit tab twice.
> > > > > I
> > > > > suspect you have that installed.  You should have a text version, like
> > > > > a
> > > > > console uses, and a gui version, that should work in any DM.  Pick
> > > > > your
> > > > > poison and see if anything there is muted or the volume is set really
> > > > > low, like 1 out of 100 or something.  I think hitting the "m" key
> > > > > toggles the mute.
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry to confess that I forgot that I should use M to unmute
> > > > a channel in alsamixer (as I did about 14 years ago) and thought
> > > > that arrows up and down do all the work. :(
> > > >
> > > > So, now the problem has been solved.
> > >
> > > Last time I have ended the discussion on my
> > > "no sound" problem acknowledging that I was
> > > so stupid that "forgot that I should use M to
> > > unmute a channel in alsamixer."
> > >
> > > However, it turned out that it was not the case:
> > > currently I have all channels in alsamixer unmuted
> > > and have sound only in about 1 from 10 bootings of
> > > my Gentoo system, while I do always have sound
> > > on the same computer while I boot it with Ubuntu 20.04.
> > >
> > > I have also compared the output of lsmod command
> > > on both systems and found out that my Gentoo system
> > > had all sound kernel modules that my Ubuntu system has
> > > and even more. (In Gentoo, I still have quite an old 5.4.97
> > > kernel, but I do not think that it is the cause of my
> > > "no sound" problem.)
> > >
> > > Of course, it is completely my responsibility that
> > > I have built my Gentoo system in such a way that
> > > I never know if I will have sound after its next boot.
> > > However I am lost guessing what I did wrong.
> > > (Comparing with Ubuntu 20.04, my Gentoo system
> > > has no systemd and no pulseaudio, no consolekit,
> > > and no policykit.)
> > >
> > > I leave this just for history, as I am currently
> > > in a war zone and so investigating this problem
> > > further is not in my priority list. :(
> >
> > I have accidentally found that the problem with
> > absence of sound on my Gentoo box appears
> > only when my USB Logitech webcam is connected
> > to the computer during the boot time.
> >
> > Moreover, if it happens and the sound is absent,
> > the alsamixer shows that my USB Logitech webcam
> > is considered by the system as a default sound device.
> >
> > So, it tries to send sound there even though it does
> > not have any speaker.
>
> I'll blame some relatively recent change in the kernel
> or some interaction with udev.

Yes, it is quite probable that udev, evdev or the like
is responsible for the problem.

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

вс, 17 июл. 2022 г. в 19:18, gevisz :
>
> чт, 14 июл. 2022 г. в 14:57, Jude DaShiell :
> >
> > I'll go on a guess alsa got installed on the system.

Yes, it is.

> > If that is correct, please try a command as root in terminal
> > if necessary or on console:
> >
> > amixer set Master 100% unmute && alsactl store && aplay
> > /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav

I was sure that it wouldn't work but tried:
# amixer set Master 100% unmute && alsactl store && aplay
/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',0

> > It's possible that doesn't work because /var/lib/alsa/asound.state exists
> > or /var/lock/alsa.lock exists.

The first file exists and the second one is not.

> > If those two files do not exist and pulseaudio and/or pipewire hasn't
> > gummed up the works that should work.

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

чт, 14 июл. 2022 г. в 14:57, Jude DaShiell :
>
> I'll go on a guess alsa got installed on the system.  If that is correct,
> please try a command as root in terminal if necessary or on console:
>
>
> amixer set Master 100% unmute && alsactl store && aplay
> /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
> It's possible that doesn't work because /var/lib/alsa/asound.state exists
> or /var/lock/alsa.lock exists.
> If those two files do not exist and pulseaudio and/or pipewire hasn't
> gummed up the works that should work.

I was sure that it wouldn't work but tried:
# amixer set Master 100% unmute && alsactl store && aplay
/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
amixer: Unable to find simple control 'Master',0

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Peter Humphrey]

On Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:36:42 BST Neil Bothwick wrote:

> God said, "div D = rho, div B = 0, curl E = - @B/@t, curl H = J + @D/@t,"
> and there was light.

Nice one!

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Neil Bothwick]

On Thu, 14 Jul 2022 08:53:11 +0100, Michael wrote:

> On this laptop the onboard WiFi has to be switched on already at boot
> time, or I need to reboot after switching it on.  Restarting the wlan0
> service without a reboot fails to connect to the AP.
> 

I have a similar issue with a USB WiFi adaptor, particularly after a
suspend. I found that I can wake it u without rebooting with

rfkill block wlan; rfkill unblock wlan


-- 
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God said, "div D = rho, div B = 0, curl E = - @B/@t, curl H = J + @D/@t,"
and there was light.


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Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Jude DaShiell]

I'll go on a guess alsa got installed on the system.  If that is correct,
please try a command as root in terminal if necessary or on console:


amixer set Master 100% unmute && alsactl store && aplay
/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
It's possible that doesn't work because /var/lib/alsa/asound.state exists
or /var/lock/alsa.lock exists.
If those two files do not exist and pulseaudio and/or pipewire hasn't
gummed up the works that should work.

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Michael]

On Thursday, 14 July 2022 07:19:14 BST gevisz wrote:
> пт, 11 мар. 2022 г. в 20:15, gevisz :
> > пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 00:15, gevisz :
> > > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 21:15, Dale :
> > > > gevisz wrote:
> > > > > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> > > > >> gevisz wrote:
> > > > >>> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is
> > > > >>> currently
> > > > >>> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years
> > > > >> ago,
> > > > >> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to
> > > > >> mute.
> > > > >> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I
> > > > >> did my
> > > > >> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> > > > >> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think
> > > > >> I had
> > > > >> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level
> > > > >> once
> > > > >> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the
> > > > >> one I
> > > > >> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control
> > > > >> things
> > > > >> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
> > > > >> 
> > > > >> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case
> > > > >> there is
> > > > >> a muted setting somewhere.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but
> > > > > what?
> > > > > I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.
> > > > 
> > > > Type in alsamixer in a console or whatever you use and hit tab twice. 
> > > > I
> > > > suspect you have that installed.  You should have a text version, like
> > > > a
> > > > console uses, and a gui version, that should work in any DM.  Pick
> > > > your
> > > > poison and see if anything there is muted or the volume is set really
> > > > low, like 1 out of 100 or something.  I think hitting the "m" key
> > > > toggles the mute.
> > > 
> > > I am sorry to confess that I forgot that I should use M to unmute
> > > a channel in alsamixer (as I did about 14 years ago) and thought
> > > that arrows up and down do all the work. :(
> > > 
> > > So, now the problem has been solved.
> > 
> > Last time I have ended the discussion on my
> > "no sound" problem acknowledging that I was
> > so stupid that "forgot that I should use M to
> > unmute a channel in alsamixer."
> > 
> > However, it turned out that it was not the case:
> > currently I have all channels in alsamixer unmuted
> > and have sound only in about 1 from 10 bootings of
> > my Gentoo system, while I do always have sound
> > on the same computer while I boot it with Ubuntu 20.04.
> > 
> > I have also compared the output of lsmod command
> > on both systems and found out that my Gentoo system
> > had all sound kernel modules that my Ubuntu system has
> > and even more. (In Gentoo, I still have quite an old 5.4.97
> > kernel, but I do not think that it is the cause of my
> > "no sound" problem.)
> > 
> > Of course, it is completely my responsibility that
> > I have built my Gentoo system in such a way that
> > I never know if I will have sound after its next boot.
> > However I am lost guessing what I did wrong.
> > (Comparing with Ubuntu 20.04, my Gentoo system
> > has no systemd and no pulseaudio, no consolekit,
> > and no policykit.)
> > 
> > I leave this just for history, as I am currently
> > in a war zone and so investigating this problem
> > further is not in my priority list. :(
> 
> I have accidentally found that the problem with
> absence of sound on my Gentoo box appears
> only when my USB Logitech webcam is connected
> to the computer during the boot time.
> 
> Moreover, if it happens and the sound is absent,
> the alsamixer shows that my USB Logitech webcam
> is considered by the system as a default sound device.
> 
> So, it tries to send sound there even though it does
> not have any speaker.

I'll blame some relatively recent change in the kernel or some interaction 
with udev.  I have previously posted a problem regarding a USB NIC, rather 
than a USB sound card as in your case.   Now I also noticed a problem with the 
initialisation of an onboard WiFi card on another laptop, which is driven by 
the internal MoBo USB controller along with bluetooth.

I don't know what causes the problem but I wager the order in which a device 
is plugged in/switched on by the user affects whether the kernel will detect it 
and initialise it, or not.

On this laptop the onboard WiFi has to be switched on already at boot time, or 
I need to reboot after switching it on.  Restarting the wlan0 service without 
a reboot fails to connect to the AP.

On the previous post of mine about another laptop with an external USB NIC 
adaptor (wired), the ethernet cable has to remain disconnected until SDDM 
starts, or SDDM will not launch.  Restarting the wired interface service 
allows SDDM to start.

My superficial conclusion i

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

пт, 11 мар. 2022 г. в 20:15, gevisz :
>
> пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 00:15, gevisz :
> >
> > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 21:15, Dale :
> > >
> > > gevisz wrote:
> > > > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> > > >> gevisz wrote:
> > > >>> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
> > > >>> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
> > > >> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years ago,
> > > >> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to mute.
> > > >> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I did my
> > > >> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> > > >> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think I 
> > > >> had
> > > >> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level once
> > > >> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the one 
> > > >> I
> > > >> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control things
> > > >> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
> > > >>
> > > >> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case there is
> > > >> a muted setting somewhere.
> > > > Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but 
> > > > what?
> > > > I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.
> > >
> > > Type in alsamixer in a console or whatever you use and hit tab twice.  I
> > > suspect you have that installed.  You should have a text version, like a
> > > console uses, and a gui version, that should work in any DM.  Pick your
> > > poison and see if anything there is muted or the volume is set really
> > > low, like 1 out of 100 or something.  I think hitting the "m" key
> > > toggles the mute.
> >
> > I am sorry to confess that I forgot that I should use M to unmute
> > a channel in alsamixer (as I did about 14 years ago) and thought
> > that arrows up and down do all the work. :(
> >
> > So, now the problem has been solved.
>
> Last time I have ended the discussion on my
> "no sound" problem acknowledging that I was
> so stupid that "forgot that I should use M to
> unmute a channel in alsamixer."
>
> However, it turned out that it was not the case:
> currently I have all channels in alsamixer unmuted
> and have sound only in about 1 from 10 bootings of
> my Gentoo system, while I do always have sound
> on the same computer while I boot it with Ubuntu 20.04.
>
> I have also compared the output of lsmod command
> on both systems and found out that my Gentoo system
> had all sound kernel modules that my Ubuntu system has
> and even more. (In Gentoo, I still have quite an old 5.4.97
> kernel, but I do not think that it is the cause of my
> "no sound" problem.)
>
> Of course, it is completely my responsibility that
> I have built my Gentoo system in such a way that
> I never know if I will have sound after its next boot.
> However I am lost guessing what I did wrong.
> (Comparing with Ubuntu 20.04, my Gentoo system
> has no systemd and no pulseaudio, no consolekit,
> and no policykit.)
>
> I leave this just for history, as I am currently
> in a war zone and so investigating this problem
> further is not in my priority list. :(

I have accidentally found that the problem with
absence of sound on my Gentoo box appears
only when my USB Logitech webcam is connected
to the computer during the boot time.

Moreover, if it happens and the sound is absent,
the alsamixer shows that my USB Logitech webcam
is considered by the system as a default sound device.

So, it tries to send sound there even though it does
not have any speaker.

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 00:15, gevisz :
>
> вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 21:15, Dale :
> >
> > gevisz wrote:
> > > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> > >> gevisz wrote:
> > >>> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
> > >>> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
> > >> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years ago,
> > >> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to mute.
> > >> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I did my
> > >> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> > >> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think I had
> > >> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level once
> > >> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the one I
> > >> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control things
> > >> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
> > >>
> > >> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case there is
> > >> a muted setting somewhere.
> > > Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but what?
> > > I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.
> >
> > Type in alsamixer in a console or whatever you use and hit tab twice.  I
> > suspect you have that installed.  You should have a text version, like a
> > console uses, and a gui version, that should work in any DM.  Pick your
> > poison and see if anything there is muted or the volume is set really
> > low, like 1 out of 100 or something.  I think hitting the "m" key
> > toggles the mute.
>
> I am sorry to confess that I forgot that I should use M to unmute
> a channel in alsamixer (as I did about 14 years ago) and thought
> that arrows up and down do all the work. :(
>
> So, now the problem has been solved.

Last time I have ended the discussion on my
"no sound" problem acknowledging that I was
so stupid that "forgot that I should use M to
unmute a channel in alsamixer."

However, it turned out that it was not the case:
currently I have all channels in alsamixer unmuted
and have sound only in about 1 from 10 bootings of
my Gentoo system, while I do always have sound
on the same computer while I boot it with Ubuntu 20.04.

I have also compared the output of lsmod command
on both systems and found out that my Gentoo system
had all sound kernel modules that my Ubuntu system has
and even more. (In Gentoo, I still have quite an old 5.4.97
kernel, but I do not think that it is the cause of my
"no sound" problem.)

Of course, it is completely my responsibility that
I have built my Gentoo system in such a way that
I never know if I will have sound after its next boot.
However I am lost guessing what I did wrong.
(Comparing with Ubuntu 20.04, my Gentoo system
has no systemd and no pulseaudio, no consolekit,
and no policykit.)

I leave this just for history, as I am currently
in a war zone and so investigating this problem
further is not in my priority list. :(

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound after resuming from hibernation

[Michael]

On Monday, 4 January 2021 10:33:47 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:

> Oh well, is there a replacement for ALSA?   Can I use "pulseaudio" with-
> out ALSA?
> 
> Sincerely,
>   Rainer

Without the alsa kernel driver available, the pulseaudio mixing controls won't 
be able to talk to the hardware.

Does 'alsactl init' report something different after a cold reboot when sound 
works as expected, as opposed to after hibernation?

Does your audio driver have a power saving function?  modinfo will show this 
and you can enable/disable it, via /etc/modprobe.d/ - see here for more info:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Power_management/Soundcard

Do you have alsasound service configured to run at boot?  If so, does sound 
return if you restart the service after hibernation?

Another thought:  could it be the default audio device changes after restoring 
from hibernation?  What I mean is, if your audio device has PCM and HDMI 
outputs, it may be the order is reversed for some unknown reason.  If so, you 
should still have sound on one of the outputs.  In this case, you could 
hardcode the order of the audio devices in /etc/asound.conf so the desired 
audio card output is always the default.

If none of the above provide a solution, then it must be some MoBo/driver bug, 
which will need more involved debugging with the latest testing kernel 
version.


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Re: [gentoo-user] No sound after resuming from hibernation

[Dr Rainer Woitok]

Michael,

On Sunday, 2021-01-03 18:43:34 +, you wrote:

> ...
> > /usr/share/alsa/init/default:102: value write error: Input/output error
> 
> The above on my system refers to headphone control:
> 
> CTL{name}="Headphone Playback Switch",CTL{do_search}=="1", \
>   CTL{values}="on"
> 
> > /usr/share/alsa/init/default:263: value write error: Input/output error
> > /usr/share/alsa/init/default:263: value write error: Input/output error
> 
> This refers to recording volume:
> 
> CTL{name}="Capture Volume",CTL{do_search}=="1", \
>   CTL{write}!="$env{cvolume}",CTL{values}="$env{cpercent}"

Same here.

> is your user a member of the audio group?

$ id
uid=1000(rainer) gid=1000(rainer) 
groups=1000(rainer),7(lp),10(wheel),18(audio),19(cdrom),27(video),80(cdrw),85(usb),100(users),106(lpadmin),250(portage),272(plugdev),997(scanner)
$

> Are you able to unmute your settings, if muted, with alsamixer?

After running "alsactl init"  the only settings muted in "alsamixer" are
"Master" and "Headphone", and yes, I can unmute both by pressing the "m"
key.  But this does neither bring back sound nor does it change the out-
put from another "alsactl init".

> I recall an older alsa bug with some realtek driver, whereby to get their 
> audio back some users had to suspend to RAM first.  :-/  Yes, I know, it 
> sounds like cargo-culting, but apparently it worked for them.

Oh well, is there a replacement for ALSA?   Can I use "pulseaudio" with-
out ALSA?

Sincerely,
  Rainer

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound after resuming from hibernation

[Michael]

On Sunday, 3 January 2021 17:12:20 GMT you wrote:
> Michael,
> 
> On Sunday, 2021-01-03 16:13:35 +, you wrote:
> > ...
> > It used to be the case modules were probed/reloaded by 'alsactl init' when
> > initialising the audio card.  If built in the kernel binary the command
> > couldn't do this.
> 
> Thanks for this background information :-)
> 
> Am I correct in asuming  that this more or less  is still true,  and I'd
> rather continue to build sound support as modules?

I can't confirm this, but in my case I've been building alsa drivers as 
modules ever since.


> > ...
> > I suggest you use alsactl init before and after and compare the output
> > between a working and non-working state, to try to isolate the problem.
> 
> Erm ... good suggestion:
> 
> $ alsactl init
> alsa-lib
> /var/tmp/portage/media-libs/alsa-lib-1.2.3.2-r1/work/alsa-lib-1.2.3.2/src/u
> cm/main.c:983:(snd_use_case_mgr_open) error: failed to import hw:0 use case
> configuration -2 Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Realtek ALC269VC"
> "HDA:10ec0269,15586508,00100202 HDA:80862809,80860101,0010" "0x1558"
> "0x6508" Hardware is initialized using a generic method
> /usr/share/alsa/init/default:102: value write error: Input/output error

The above on my system refers to headphone control:

CTL{name}="Headphone Playback Switch",CTL{do_search}=="1", \
  CTL{values}="on"

> /usr/share/alsa/init/default:263: value write error: Input/output error
> /usr/share/alsa/init/default:263: value write error: Input/output error

This refers to recording volume:

CTL{name}="Capture Volume",CTL{do_search}=="1", \
  CTL{write}!="$env{cvolume}",CTL{values}="$env{cpercent}"

is your user a member of the audio group?

Are you able to unmute your settings, if muted, with alsamixer?

I recall an older alsa bug with some realtek driver, whereby to get their 
audio back some users had to suspend to RAM first.  :-/  Yes, I know, it 
sounds like cargo-culting, but apparently it worked for them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] No sound after resuming from hibernation

[Dr Rainer Woitok]

Michael,

On Sunday, 2021-01-03 16:13:35 +, you wrote:

> ...
> It used to be the case modules were probed/reloaded by 'alsactl init' when 
> initialising the audio card.  If built in the kernel binary the command 
> couldn't do this.

Thanks for this background information :-)

Am I correct in asuming  that this more or less  is still true,  and I'd
rather continue to build sound support as modules?

> ...
> I suggest you use alsactl init before and after and compare the output 
> between 
> a working and non-working state, to try to isolate the problem.

Erm ... good suggestion:

$ alsactl init
alsa-lib 
/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/alsa-lib-1.2.3.2-r1/work/alsa-lib-1.2.3.2/src/ucm/main.c:983:(snd_use_case_mgr_open)
 error: failed to import hw:0 use case configuration -2
Found hardware: "HDA-Intel" "Realtek ALC269VC" "HDA:10ec0269,15586508,00100202 
HDA:80862809,80860101,0010" "0x1558" "0x6508"
Hardware is initialized using a generic method
/usr/share/alsa/init/default:102: value write error: Input/output error
/usr/share/alsa/init/default:263: value write error: Input/output error
/usr/share/alsa/init/default:263: value write error: Input/output error
$ echo $?
99
$

Running "sudo alsactl init" produces exactly the same result.  So what's
broken here?  Or what to try next?

Sincerely,
  Rainer

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound after resuming from hibernation

[Michael]

On Sunday, 3 January 2021 15:59:49 GMT Dr Rainer Woitok wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> immediately after a reboot I can clearly hear the white noise created by
> executing
> 
>$ aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav
>Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
> Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Mono $
> 
> and the "lsmod" command lists quite a few loaded sound modules.   Howev-
> er, after resuming from hibernation  the same "aplay" command still pro-
> duces the same line on standard output, returns the same exit code of 0,
> but does not produce any sound.  And the "lsmod" command still lists the
> same loaded modules.
> 
> Anybody having a clue what's happening here?
> 
> And while we are at it: At
> 
>https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Kernel/Gentoo_Kernel_Configuration_Guide
> 
> the authors flatly state "Note that ALSA is an exception to the suggest-
> ed scheme of not building things as modules: ALSA is actually much easi-
> er to configure  when the  components  are modular."  without giving any
> further expanation.   What precisely am I  giving away  when I build the
> ALSA stuff directly into the kernel?
> 
> Sincerely,
>   Rainer

It used to be the case modules were probed/reloaded by 'alsactl init' when 
initialising the audio card.  If built in the kernel binary the command 
couldn't do this.  Troubleshooting required monitoring responses and errors as 
the modules were being loaded and consequently the devs were not very 
forthcoming with solutions, unless you had your alsa drivers compiled as 
modules.

I had a laptop a long time ago, which I had to reboot into MSWindows to get 
the audio to work again.  Using alsamixer and alsactl in Linux would not wake 
up the card, no matter what I tried.  One day this problem went away after a 
kernel update, so I attributed it to a buggy linux audio driver.

Some modules show power saving features with 'modinfo', which may alter the 
card's behaviour if they can be switched off.

I suggest you use alsactl init before and after and compare the output between 
a working and non-working state, to try to isolate the problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Dale]

gevisz wrote:
> пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 18:13, Dale :
>> gevisz wrote:
>>> пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 02:18, Dale :
 On the modules or in kernel, I compile all mine in the kernel.  The only
 modules I have is my nvidia video drivers. There's pro's and con's to
 each so whatever works and you like.
>>> I actually asked a question not about the choice between "in kernel"
>>> or "as a module" but about "to build or not to build" at all. :)
>>>
>>> So, once more: Is it better to compile the driver for my HDMI audio
>>> device or not, if I am not going to use HDMI audio output?
>>>
>> Ahh.  Well, if you build it and then need it later, it's already there.
>> If you don't and then need it later, you have to go back and build it
>> and may be in a hurry.  I tend to get all hardware working even if I'm
>> not using it at the time.
> I have just thought that it may be better if the kernel knows how to
> deal with this piece of hardware even if it is not going to use it.

True.  It may improve how the hardware works.  One could test the
theory.  One could wait until the next kernel build to do it too.  Lots
of options there.  ;-)


 Glad it's working now.  I need a shower.  I been cutting down trees and
 dragging them to a pile to rot or burn.  I'm tired, I stink which
 requires a shower and I'm hungry.  Cutting and getting rid of a 24 inch
 across tree isn't easy when you have a 20 inch bar on the chainsaw.  :/
>>> Thank you once more. And you should not rush to answer: my initial
>>> intention was to finally solve this problem till the end of this
>>> month, and now it is solved during only one weekend. :)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well, when on this mailing list, you will get ideas pretty fast.  Given
>> that you had things working but not making noise, my first thought was
>> the mute.  I ran into that a couple times myself in the past.  One would
>> think it would default to a low level but something you can hear.  I
>> guess tho they think you should be forced to adjust the mixers and other
>> sound control settings so that you can enable/leave disabled to your
>> liking.  It's 6 of one or half a dozen of the other I guess.  ;-)
>>
>> Back to cutting trees.  Got my insect spray on today tho.  Things sound
>> like large helicopters flying around out there.  O-o
> Maybe, it makes sense to find an easier job? :)
>
>


I'm doing that on my place here.  Trying to make things better.  It's a
hard job and I'm amazed I have done as much as I have.  I'm about done
cleaning up what I started but I may not cut any more this year.  I can
tell my old joints are starting to get upset. 

Did get some firewood for a friend out of it tho. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 18:13, Dale :
>
> gevisz wrote:
> > пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 02:18, Dale :
> >> On the modules or in kernel, I compile all mine in the kernel.  The only
> >> modules I have is my nvidia video drivers. There's pro's and con's to
> >> each so whatever works and you like.
> >
> > I actually asked a question not about the choice between "in kernel"
> > or "as a module" but about "to build or not to build" at all. :)
> >
> > So, once more: Is it better to compile the driver for my HDMI audio
> > device or not, if I am not going to use HDMI audio output?
> >
>
> Ahh.  Well, if you build it and then need it later, it's already there.
> If you don't and then need it later, you have to go back and build it
> and may be in a hurry.  I tend to get all hardware working even if I'm
> not using it at the time.

I have just thought that it may be better if the kernel knows how to
deal with this piece of hardware even if it is not going to use it.

> >> Glad it's working now.  I need a shower.  I been cutting down trees and
> >> dragging them to a pile to rot or burn.  I'm tired, I stink which
> >> requires a shower and I'm hungry.  Cutting and getting rid of a 24 inch
> >> across tree isn't easy when you have a 20 inch bar on the chainsaw.  :/
> > Thank you once more. And you should not rush to answer: my initial
> > intention was to finally solve this problem till the end of this
> > month, and now it is solved during only one weekend. :)
> >
> >
>
>
> Well, when on this mailing list, you will get ideas pretty fast.  Given
> that you had things working but not making noise, my first thought was
> the mute.  I ran into that a couple times myself in the past.  One would
> think it would default to a low level but something you can hear.  I
> guess tho they think you should be forced to adjust the mixers and other
> sound control settings so that you can enable/leave disabled to your
> liking.  It's 6 of one or half a dozen of the other I guess.  ;-)
>
> Back to cutting trees.  Got my insect spray on today tho.  Things sound
> like large helicopters flying around out there.  O-o

Maybe, it makes sense to find an easier job? :)

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Dale]

gevisz wrote:
> пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 02:18, Dale :
>> On the modules or in kernel, I compile all mine in the kernel.  The only
>> modules I have is my nvidia video drivers. There's pro's and con's to
>> each so whatever works and you like.
> I actually asked a question not about the choice between "in kernel"
> or "as a module" but about "to build or not to build" at all. :)
>
> So, once more: Is it better to compile the driver for my HDMI audio
> device or not, if I am not going to use HDMI audio output?
>

Ahh.  Well, if you build it and then need it later, it's already there. 
If you don't and then need it later, you have to go back and build it
and may be in a hurry.  I tend to get all hardware working even if I'm
not using it at the time.  Of course, you could plan to do that when you
update your next kernel and it's just a little more to do but you will
be doing most of it anyway since you're updating.  It's a thought.


>> Glad it's working now.  I need a shower.  I been cutting down trees and
>> dragging them to a pile to rot or burn.  I'm tired, I stink which
>> requires a shower and I'm hungry.  Cutting and getting rid of a 24 inch
>> across tree isn't easy when you have a 20 inch bar on the chainsaw.  :/
> Thank you once more. And you should not rush to answer: my initial
> intention was to finally solve this problem till the end of this
> month, and now it is solved during only one weekend. :)
>
>


Well, when on this mailing list, you will get ideas pretty fast.  Given
that you had things working but not making noise, my first thought was
the mute.  I ran into that a couple times myself in the past.  One would
think it would default to a low level but something you can hear.  I
guess tho they think you should be forced to adjust the mixers and other
sound control settings so that you can enable/leave disabled to your
liking.  It's 6 of one or half a dozen of the other I guess.  ;-)

Back to cutting trees.  Got my insect spray on today tho.  Things sound
like large helicopters flying around out there.  O-o

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 02:18, Dale :
>
> On the modules or in kernel, I compile all mine in the kernel.  The only
> modules I have is my nvidia video drivers. There's pro's and con's to
> each so whatever works and you like.

I actually asked a question not about the choice between "in kernel"
or "as a module" but about "to build or not to build" at all. :)

So, once more: Is it better to compile the driver for my HDMI audio
device or not, if I am not going to use HDMI audio output?

> Glad it's working now.  I need a shower.  I been cutting down trees and
> dragging them to a pile to rot or burn.  I'm tired, I stink which
> requires a shower and I'm hungry.  Cutting and getting rid of a 24 inch
> across tree isn't easy when you have a 20 inch bar on the chainsaw.  :/

Thank you once more. And you should not rush to answer: my initial
intention was to finally solve this problem till the end of this
month, and now it is solved during only one weekend. :)

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Dale]

David Haller wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020, Dale wrote:
>> gevisz wrote:
>>> Thank you for your help. I turned on the computer, changed options snd
>>> cards_limit to 2 and ran aplay /usr/share/sound/alsa/*.wav (I have a
>>> different named wav files). There was a sound.
> [..]
>>> reboot I have a sound and on another I have no sound. Any thoughts?
>> Try adding alsasound to the default runlevel.  And then:
>>
>> /etc/init.d/alsasound start
>>
>> and then
>>
>> /etc/init.d/alsasound save
> One should run that '/etc/init.d/alsasound save' once when sound
> works, so that later save on stop and restore on reboot work ;)
>
> BTW: I liked the SUSE way of symlinking init-scripts to /usr/sbin/rc*,
> e.g. /usr/sbin/rcalsasound -> /etc/init.d/alsasound
> I now do that (to /usr/local/sbin/rc*) for stuff that I don't want in
> a runlevel, but still start/stop occasionally ;)

Well, I was hoping it was obvious.  I just came home to snack before
headed back out into the woods so I was in a bit of a rush. 

>> P. S.  I found a new sledge hammer.  Is this being sent as plain text
>> only?  No HTML at all? 
> Yes.
>
> -dnh
>

Thank goodness.  I been trying to get that to do the right thing for
months.  Thanks for confirming. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Dale]

gevisz wrote:
>
> Correction:
>  I am sorry to confess that I FORGOT that I should use M to unmute
>  a channel in alsamixer (as I did about 14 years ago) and thought
>  that arrows up and down do all the work. :(
>

Well, when I did my first install, I had no idea.  I had to google it or
something to get it to unmute.  Once I found it, it was like, duh.  :-D

On the modules or in kernel, I compile all mine in the kernel.  The only
modules I have is my nvidia video drivers. There's pro's and con's to
each so whatever works and you like. 

Glad it's working now.  I need a shower.  I been cutting down trees and
dragging them to a pile to rot or burn.  I'm tired, I stink which
requires a shower and I'm hungry.  Cutting and getting rid of a 24 inch
across tree isn't easy when you have a 20 inch bar on the chainsaw.  :/

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

пн, 19 окт. 2020 г. в 00:15, gevisz :
>
> вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 21:15, Dale :
> >
> > gevisz wrote:
> > > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> > >> gevisz wrote:
> > >>> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
> > >>> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
> > >> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years ago,
> > >> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to mute.
> > >> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I did my
> > >> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> > >> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think I had
> > >> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level once
> > >> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the one I
> > >> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control things
> > >> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
> > >>
> > >> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case there is
> > >> a muted setting somewhere.
> > > Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but what?
> > > I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.
> >
> > Type in alsamixer in a console or whatever you use and hit tab twice.  I
> > suspect you have that installed.  You should have a text version, like a
> > console uses, and a gui version, that should work in any DM.  Pick your
> > poison and see if anything there is muted or the volume is set really
> > low, like 1 out of 100 or something.  I think hitting the "m" key
> > toggles the mute.

Correction:
 I am sorry to confess that I FORGOT that I should use M to unmute
 a channel in alsamixer (as I did about 14 years ago) and thought
 that arrows up and down do all the work. :(

> So, now the problem has been solved and I can return to the custom kernel.
>
> One last question: Is it better to compile the driver for my HDMI
> audio device or not, if I am not going to use HDMI audio output?
>
> And thank you all who replied to this thread.
>
> > I think it's the arrow keys to increase or decrease volume
> > and move from channel to channel.  It has been a while
> > since I used that so can't recall.
> >
> > Let's just hope it is that simple.
> >
> > Dale

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 21:15, Dale :
>
> gevisz wrote:
> > вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> >> gevisz wrote:
> >>> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
> >>> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
> >> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years ago,
> >> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to mute.
> >> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I did my
> >> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> >> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think I had
> >> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level once
> >> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the one I
> >> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control things
> >> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
> >>
> >> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case there is
> >> a muted setting somewhere.
> > Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but what?
> > I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.
>
> Type in alsamixer in a console or whatever you use and hit tab twice.  I
> suspect you have that installed.  You should have a text version, like a
> console uses, and a gui version, that should work in any DM.  Pick your
> poison and see if anything there is muted or the volume is set really
> low, like 1 out of 100 or something.  I think hitting the "m" key
> toggles the mute.

I am sorry to confess that I should use M to unmute a channel in
alsamixer (as I did about 14 years ago) and thought that arrows up and
down do all the work. :(

So, now the problem has been solved and I can return to the custom kernel.

One last question: Is it better to compile the driver for my HDMI
audio device or not, if I am not going to use HDMI audio output?

And thank you all who replied to this thread.

> I think it's the arrow keys to increase or decrease volume
> and move from channel to channel.  It has been a while
> since I used that so can't recall.
>
> Let's just hope it is that simple.
>
> Dale

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[David Haller]

Hello,

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020, Dale wrote:
>gevisz wrote:
>> Thank you for your help. I turned on the computer, changed options snd
>> cards_limit to 2 and ran aplay /usr/share/sound/alsa/*.wav (I have a
>> different named wav files). There was a sound.
[..]
>> reboot I have a sound and on another I have no sound. Any thoughts?
>
>Try adding alsasound to the default runlevel.  And then:
>
>/etc/init.d/alsasound start
>
>and then
>
>/etc/init.d/alsasound save

One should run that '/etc/init.d/alsasound save' once when sound
works, so that later save on stop and restore on reboot work ;)

BTW: I liked the SUSE way of symlinking init-scripts to /usr/sbin/rc*,
e.g. /usr/sbin/rcalsasound -> /etc/init.d/alsasound
I now do that (to /usr/local/sbin/rc*) for stuff that I don't want in
a runlevel, but still start/stop occasionally ;)

>P. S.  I found a new sledge hammer.  Is this being sent as plain text
>only?  No HTML at all? 

Yes.

-dnh

-- 
All technology is suspect, and must be considered potentially dangerous.
  -- BUTLERIAN JIHAD, Handbook for Our Grandchildren

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Dale]

gevisz wrote:
>
> Thank you for your help. I turned on the computer, changed options snd
> cards_limit to 2 and ran aplay /usr/share/sound/alsa/*.wav (I have a
> different named wav files). There was a sound. Then I started Firefox
> and opened some youtube videos. The sound was present as well. Then I
> opened alsamixer. Some of the channels were muted and some had no full
> sound. Nevertheless, the sound had been present. I unmuted all the
> channels and set the full sound level on all of them. Then I again
> checked that the sound is present. It was. So, I rebooted the
> computer, ran alsamixer and made sure that all channels are unmuted
> and have full sound level. But this time the sound was absent exactly
> as I expected. Neither aplay nor Firefox produced any sound. I have
> already seen this behavior when I experimented with the kernel
> configuration about 8 months ago: the same kernel options, the same
> configuration files, all alsamixer channels are unmuted but after one
> reboot I have a sound and on another I have no sound. Any thoughts?
>
>


Try adding alsasound to the default runlevel.  And then:

/etc/init.d/alsasound start

and then

/etc/init.d/alsasound save

I think it is save.  If it pukes, may have to peek into the init script
and see what option it is. That should make it survive a reboot. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

P. S.  I found a new sledge hammer.  Is this being sent as plain text
only?  No HTML at all? 

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Dale]

gevisz wrote:
> вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
>> gevisz wrote:
>>> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
>>> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
>> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years ago,
>> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to mute.
>> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I did my
>> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
>> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think I had
>> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level once
>> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the one I
>> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control things
>> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
>>
>> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case there is
>> a muted setting somewhere.
> Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but what?
> I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.
>
>

Type in alsamixer in a console or whatever you use and hit tab twice.  I
suspect you have that installed.  You should have a text version, like a
console uses, and a gui version, that should work in any DM.  Pick your
poison and see if anything there is muted or the volume is set really
low, like 1 out of 100 or something.  I think hitting the "m" key
toggles the mute.  I think it's the arrow keys to increase or decrease
volume and move from channel to channel.  It has been a while since I
used that so can't recall. 

Let's just hope it is that simple. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:20, Dale :
> gevisz wrote:
> >
> > No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
> > uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
>
> Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years ago,
> all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to mute.
> If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I did my
> install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
> Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think I had
> to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level once
> it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the one I
> mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control things
> since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max.
>
> It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case there is
> a muted setting somewhere.

Thank you for your input. Yes, it seems that something is muted but what?
I have no KDE and no kmix installed. No pulseaudio.

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 17:19, David Haller :
> On Sun, 18 Oct 2020, gevisz wrote:
> >??, 18 ???. 2020 ?. ? 09:09, David Haller :
> [..]
> >> Try this in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf (or some file there):
> >>
> >> 
> >> alias char-major-116 snd
> >> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
> >> options snd-hda-intel model=auto
> >> 
> [..]
> >So, after changes you suggested, it looks as follows:
> ># Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.
> >
> ># ALSA portion
> >alias char-major-116 snd
> ># OSS/Free portion
> >alias char-major-14 soundcore
> >
> >##
> >## IMPORTANT:
> >## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
> >## and then run `update-modules' command.
> >## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
> >##
> >##  ALSA portion
> >## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
> >alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
> >## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
> >##  OSS/Free portion
> >## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> >## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
> >##
> >
> ># OSS/Free portion - card #1
> >alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> >alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> >alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> >alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> >alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> >##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
> >## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
> >## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
> >## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
> >
> >alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
> >alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
> >alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
> >
> ># Set this to the correct number of cards.
> >options snd-hda-intel model=auto
> >options snd cards_limit=1
>
> Looks good, but snd-hda-codec-hdmi might still get loaded, so try with:
>
> options snd cards_limit=2
>
> (or even more)...
>
> >Tried to run 'update-modules' command but got
> >bash: update-modules: command not found
> >message.
>
> Should not be necessary.
>
> [still no sound after reboot in FF/Skype]
>
> Try:
>
> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav
>
> before tackling FF etc. And check alsamixer etc. for it might have
> wrong options set as the device might have been moved..

Thank you for your help. I turned on the computer, changed options snd
cards_limit to 2 and ran aplay /usr/share/sound/alsa/*.wav (I have a
different named wav files). There was a sound. Then I started Firefox
and opened some youtube videos. The sound was present as well. Then I
opened alsamixer. Some of the channels were muted and some had no full
sound. Nevertheless, the sound had been present. I unmuted all the
channels and set the full sound level on all of them. Then I again
checked that the sound is present. It was. So, I rebooted the
computer, ran alsamixer and made sure that all channels are unmuted
and have full sound level. But this time the sound was absent exactly
as I expected. Neither aplay nor Firefox produced any sound. I have
already seen this behavior when I experimented with the kernel
configuration about 8 months ago: the same kernel options, the same
configuration files, all alsamixer channels are unmuted but after one
reboot I have a sound and on another I have no sound. Any thoughts?

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Dale]

gevisz wrote:
>
> No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
> uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.
>
>


Just a thought.  Are you sure that everything is unmuted?  Years ago,
all the sound control software, Kmix, alsa and others, default to mute. 
If just one of them is muted, no sound.  I seem to recall when I did my
install on this rig that I had to unmute the sound in three places,
Kmix, alsa and one other that I can't recall the name of.  I think I had
to turn up the volume on alsa as it was set to a really low level once
it was unmuted.  Usually, I turn all of them to the max except the one I
mainly use.  In my case, Kmix is the one I use to really control things
since it sits on the panel thingy.  The others are set at the max. 

It's a silly thing but thought it worth a mention just in case there is
a muted setting somewhere.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[David Haller]

Hello,

On Sun, 18 Oct 2020, gevisz wrote:
>??, 18 ???. 2020 ?. ? 09:09, David Haller :
[..]
>> Try this in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf (or some file there):
>>
>> 
>> alias char-major-116 snd
>> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
>> options snd-hda-intel model=auto
>> 
[..]
>So, after changes you suggested, it looks as follows:
># Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.
>
># ALSA portion
>alias char-major-116 snd
># OSS/Free portion
>alias char-major-14 soundcore
>
>##
>## IMPORTANT:
>## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
>## and then run `update-modules' command.
>## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
>##
>##  ALSA portion
>## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
>alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
>## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
>##  OSS/Free portion
>## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
>## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
>##
>
># OSS/Free portion - card #1
>alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
>alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
>alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
>alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
>alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
>##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
>## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
>## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
>## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
>
>alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
>alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
>alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
>
># Set this to the correct number of cards.
>options snd-hda-intel model=auto
>options snd cards_limit=1

Looks good, but snd-hda-codec-hdmi might still get loaded, so try with:

options snd cards_limit=2

(or even more)...

>Tried to run 'update-modules' command but got
>bash: update-modules: command not found
>message.

Should not be necessary.

[still no sound after reboot in FF/Skype]

Try:

aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/test.wav

before tackling FF etc. And check alsamixer etc. for it might have
wrong options set as the device might have been moved..

HTH,
-dnh

-- 
Two atoms are walking along. Suddenly, one stops. The other says,
"What's wrong?" "I've lost an electron." "Are you sure?" "I'm positive!"

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 19:03, gevisz :
>
> вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 09:09, David Haller :
> > On Sat, 17 Oct 2020, gevisz wrote:
> > >??, 17 ???. 2020 ?. ? 14:57, David Haller :
> > [..]
> > >Here is the comparative table for your kernel parameters vs those of
> > >gentoo-kernel 5.4.64 and my last tried configuration in
> > >gentoo-sources-4.19.86:
> > >CONFIG | 4.14 | 5.4.64 | 4.19.86
> > >SND  | y  | m| y
> > >SND_TIMER   | y  | m| y
> > >SND_PCM  | y  | m| y
> > >SND_HWDEP | m | m| y
> > >SND_DRIVERS   | y  | y | y
> > >SND_PCI| y  | y | y
> > >SND_HDA  | m | m| y
> > >SND_HDA_INTEL| m| m| y
> > >SND_HDA_HWDEP | y | y | n
> > >SND_HDA_RECONFIG | y| y | y
> > >SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK | m | m | y
> > >SND_HDA_GENERIC   | m | m | y
> > >SND_HDA_CORE| m | m | y
> > >SND_SPI | y | n | absent
> >
> > Looks ok.
> >
> > [..]
> > >So, it seems that at least the configuration for kernel 5.4.64 should
> > >work. However, it does not.
> >
> > Try this in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf (or some file there):
> >
> > 
> > alias char-major-116 snd
> > alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
> > options snd-hda-intel model=auto
> > 
>
> I have not tried to edit any alsa configuration files before.
> Here is a content of my current /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf
> -
> # Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.
>
> # ALSA portion
> alias char-major-116 snd
> # OSS/Free portion
> alias char-major-14 soundcore
>
> ##
> ## IMPORTANT:
> ## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
> ## and then run `update-modules' command.
> ## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
> ##
> ##  ALSA portion
> ## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
> ## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
> ##  OSS/Free portion
> ## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> ## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
> ##
>
> # OSS/Free portion - card #1
> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> ##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
> ## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
> ## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
> ## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
>
> alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
> alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
> alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
>
> # Set this to the correct number of cards.
> options snd cards_limit=1
> ---
> So, after changes you suggested, it looks as follows:
> --
> # Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.
>
> # ALSA portion
> alias char-major-116 snd
> # OSS/Free portion
> alias char-major-14 soundcore
>
> ##
> ## IMPORTANT:
> ## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
> ## and then run `update-modules' command.
> ## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
> ##
> ##  ALSA portion
> ## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
> ## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
> ##  OSS/Free portion
> ## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
> ## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
> ##
>
> # OSS/Free portion - card #1
> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
> ##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
> ## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
> ## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
> ## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss
>
> alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
> alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
> alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss
>
> # Set this to the correct number of cards.
> options snd-hda-intel model=auto
> options snd cards_limit=1
> --
> Tried to run 'update-modules' command but got
> bash: update-modules: command not found
> message.
>
> Will reboot now and report the result.

No sound at least in Firefox. Tried it on youtube. Skype is currently
uninstalled. So, I cannot check using it.

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 09:09, David Haller :
> On Sat, 17 Oct 2020, gevisz wrote:
> >??, 17 ???. 2020 ?. ? 14:57, David Haller :
> [..]
> >Here is the comparative table for your kernel parameters vs those of
> >gentoo-kernel 5.4.64 and my last tried configuration in
> >gentoo-sources-4.19.86:
> >CONFIG | 4.14 | 5.4.64 | 4.19.86
> >SND  | y  | m| y
> >SND_TIMER   | y  | m| y
> >SND_PCM  | y  | m| y
> >SND_HWDEP | m | m| y
> >SND_DRIVERS   | y  | y | y
> >SND_PCI| y  | y | y
> >SND_HDA  | m | m| y
> >SND_HDA_INTEL| m| m| y
> >SND_HDA_HWDEP | y | y | n
> >SND_HDA_RECONFIG | y| y | y
> >SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK | m | m | y
> >SND_HDA_GENERIC   | m | m | y
> >SND_HDA_CORE| m | m | y
> >SND_SPI | y | n | absent
>
> Looks ok.
>
> [..]
> >So, it seems that at least the configuration for kernel 5.4.64 should
> >work. However, it does not.
>
> Try this in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf (or some file there):
>
> 
> alias char-major-116 snd
> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
> options snd-hda-intel model=auto
> 

I have not tried to edit any alsa configuration files before.
Here is a content of my current /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf
-
# Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore

##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
##
##  ALSA portion
## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
##  OSS/Free portion
## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.
options snd cards_limit=1
---
So, after changes you suggested, it looks as follows:
--
# Alsa kernel modules' configuration file.

# ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
# OSS/Free portion
alias char-major-14 soundcore

##
## IMPORTANT:
## You need to customise this section for your specific sound card(s)
## and then run `update-modules' command.
## Read alsa-driver's INSTALL file in /usr/share/doc for more info.
##
##  ALSA portion
## alias snd-card-0 snd-interwave
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
## alias snd-card-1 snd-ens1371
##  OSS/Free portion
## alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
## alias sound-slot-1 snd-card-1
##

# OSS/Free portion - card #1
alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
##  OSS/Free portion - card #2
## alias sound-service-1-0 snd-mixer-oss
## alias sound-service-1-3 snd-pcm-oss
## alias sound-service-1-12 snd-pcm-oss

alias /dev/mixer snd-mixer-oss
alias /dev/dsp snd-pcm-oss
alias /dev/midi snd-seq-oss

# Set this to the correct number of cards.
options snd-hda-intel model=auto
options snd cards_limit=1
--
Tried to run 'update-modules' command but got
bash: update-modules: command not found
message.

Will reboot now and report the result.

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

вс, 18 окт. 2020 г. в 02:28, Walter Dnes :
>
> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 10:53:43PM +0300, gevisz wrote
>
> > Thank you for your reply. I have actually used this approach in one of
> > my first attempts.
> > Below is the output of lsmod on the install usb with all modules that
> > I think is irrelevant to sound removed.
>
>   There is no mention of SND_PCI.  When doing "make menuconfig", you
> ***MUST*** first enable...
>
> Device Drivers > Sound card support > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture > PCI 
> sound devices
>
>   Don't select any of the drivers under that option; just enable the
> barebones option.  If you don't enable it, then nothing shows up under
> "HD Audio" where all the codecs you mention are listed.  If you're doing
> it manually, set...
>
> CONFIG_SND_PCI=y
>
>   Either way, rebuild the kernel and try again.  Hopefully, that solves
> the problem.
>
> Walter Dnes 

Thank you for your advice. The SND_PCI option is switched on in my
current generic kernel (gentoo-kernel-5.4.64) as well in the last
tried configuration of gentoo-sources-4.19.86. Moreover, almost every
possible option inside the section to which it points is compiled as a
module. I do not know why snd_pci does not show itself after entering
the lsmod command. Probably, because it is not a module but a section
of the kernel config.

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[David Haller]

Hello,

On Sat, 17 Oct 2020, gevisz wrote:
>??, 17 ???. 2020 ?. ? 14:57, David Haller :
[..]
>Here is the comparative table for your kernel parameters vs those of
>gentoo-kernel 5.4.64 and my last tried configuration in
>gentoo-sources-4.19.86:
>CONFIG | 4.14 | 5.4.64 | 4.19.86
>SND  | y  | m| y
>SND_TIMER   | y  | m| y
>SND_PCM  | y  | m| y
>SND_HWDEP | m | m| y
>SND_DRIVERS   | y  | y | y
>SND_PCI| y  | y | y
>SND_HDA  | m | m| y
>SND_HDA_INTEL| m| m| y
>SND_HDA_HWDEP | y | y | n
>SND_HDA_RECONFIG | y| y | y
>SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK | m | m | y
>SND_HDA_GENERIC   | m | m | y
>SND_HDA_CORE| m | m | y
>SND_SPI | y | n | absent

Looks ok.

[..]
>So, it seems that at least the configuration for kernel 5.4.64 should
>work. However, it does not.

Try this in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf (or some file there):


alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
options snd-hda-intel model=auto


HTH,
-dnh

-- 
"Getting a penguin to pee on demand is _messy_."  -- Linus Torvalds

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Walter Dnes]

On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 10:53:43PM +0300, gevisz wrote

> Thank you for your reply. I have actually used this approach in one of
> my first attempts.
> Below is the output of lsmod on the install usb with all modules that
> I think is irrelevant to sound removed.

  There is no mention of SND_PCI.  When doing "make menuconfig", you
***MUST*** first enable...

Device Drivers > Sound card support > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture > PCI 
sound devices

  Don't select any of the drivers under that option; just enable the
barebones option.  If you don't enable it, then nothing shows up under
"HD Audio" where all the codecs you mention are listed.  If you're doing
it manually, set...

CONFIG_SND_PCI=y

  Either way, rebuild the kernel and try again.  Hopefully, that solves
the problem.

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

сб, 17 окт. 2020 г. в 15:08, Walter Dnes :
>
>   Here's a strategy I occasionally use...
>
> 1) Download a Gentoo "minimal install" and set up a USB key to boot from it.
>
> 2) Boot the PC from the install USB key.
>
> 3) Execute the command...
>
>lsmod | less
>
> 4) Manually scan the output for anything related to sound and write it down.

Thank you for your reply. I have actually used this approach in one of
my first attempts.
Below is the output of lsmod on the install usb with all modules that
I think is irrelevant to sound removed.

Module  Size  Used by
---
snd_hda_codec_realtek77824  1
snd_hda_codec_generic61440  1 snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 49152  1
snd_hda_intel  32768  0
snd_hda_codec  90112  4
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_hda_core   57344  5
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek
snd_pcm81920  4
snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_core
snd_timer  28672  1 snd_pcm
snd69632  7
snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec_hdmi,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_timer,snd_pcm
soundcore  16384  1 snd
---

All these modules appear in the lsmod | less in my current Gentoo
install (gentoo-kernel-5.4.64 without changes).
Below I even made a table to be sure.
--
lsmod on install usb | lsmod on 5.4.64
SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK | +
SND_HDA_CODEC_GENERIC | +
SND_HDA_CODEC_HDMI  | +
SND_HDA_INTEL  | +
SND_HDA_CODEC| +
SND_HDA_CORE  | +
SND_PCM | +
SND_TIMER  | +
SND | +
SOUNDCORE   | +
-

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[gevisz]

сб, 17 окт. 2020 г. в 14:57, David Haller :
> On Sat, 17 Oct 2020, gevisz wrote:
> >At different times during the last one and a half years, I tried to
> >make sound work on my new Gentoo install on a computer with Gigabyte
> >GA-MA790FXT-UD5P motherboard and MSI ATI Radeon R4770 graphic card.
>
> Ok, that board should be rather closeish to mine (GA-MA770TA-UD3.
> Might use a different soundchip though, but those should work
> automatically.
>
> [..]
> >lspci | grep "Audio"
> >00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00
> >Azalia (Intel HDA)
> >01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV710/730
> >HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series]
>
> Simliar here, but it'd be interesting, what actual device is that
> onboard sound, here it's:
>
> $ /sbin/lspci -nn | grep Audio
> 00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 
> Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383]
> [plus the HDMI of the video card]
>
> According to the MoBo manual, it's a Realtek ALC888 codec.

My documentation says that it is Realtek ALC889A.

> >My current kernel configuration is exactly the same as in the
> >gentoo-kernel-5.4.64 package as I have not changed anything there.
>
> This works here:
>
> CONFIG_SND=y
> CONFIG_SND_TIMER=y
> CONFIG_SND_PCM=y
> CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=m
> CONFIG_SND_DRIVERS=y
> CONFIG_SND_PCI=y
> CONFIG_SND_HDA=m
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_HWDEP=y
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_RECONFIG=y
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=m
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC=m
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_CORE=m
> CONFIG_SND_SPI=y
>
> Not sure if CONFIG_SND_SPI and CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC are needed, but
> the other ones seem crucial.
>
> Oh, the above is for a 4.14 kernel, but has been the same for a looong
> time now.

Here is the comparative table for your kernel parameters vs those of
gentoo-kernel 5.4.64 and my last tried configuration in
gentoo-sources-4.19.86:
-
CONFIG | 4.14 | 5.4.64 | 4.19.86
SND  | y  | m| y
SND_TIMER   | y  | m| y
SND_PCM  | y  | m| y
SND_HWDEP | m | m| y
SND_DRIVERS   | y  | y | y
SND_PCI| y  | y | y
SND_HDA  | m | m| y
SND_HDA_INTEL| m| m| y
SND_HDA_HWDEP | y | y | n
SND_HDA_RECONFIG | y| y | y
SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK | m | m | y
SND_HDA_GENERIC   | m | m | y
SND_HDA_CORE| m | m | y
SND_SPI | y | n | absent

The last option is absent from my config file of gentoo-source-4.19.86.
However, it seems that in gentoo-kernel-5.4-64 it also means nothing
because it leads to an empty section even if it is chosen.

So, it seems that at least the configuration for kernel 5.4.64 should
work. However, it does not.

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[Walter Dnes]

  Here's a strategy I occasionally use...

1) Download a Gentoo "minimal install" and set up a USB key to boot from it.

2) Boot the PC from the install USB key.

3) Execute the command...

   lsmod | less

4) Manually scan the output for anything related to sound and write it down.

   That should give you an idea of what modules the install decided on
after doing hardware probing.  This'll work for almost any device.  I
recently installed Gentoo on a older machine with an ethernet chip that
identified as a string of numbers which didn't help me.  But checking
"lsmod | less" showed the "e1000e" module in use.  I compiled in the
driver that gives that module and it works.

   To get a screen capture that you can post here...

1) Boot from the install USB key.

2) mount /dev/sdxy /mnt/gentoo
   Where "x" is a, or b, or c, etc.  "y" is 1, or 2, or 3, etc as
appropriate for your machine.

3) lsmod > /mnt/gentoo/mymodules.txt

   Reboot, from the hard drive, find "mymodules.txt" and check it.  If
you need further help, post it on this list.

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound. Please, help!

[David Haller]

Hello,

On Sat, 17 Oct 2020, gevisz wrote:
[.. reordering ..]
>And finally: installed on the same computer legacy operating system
>never had any sound problems.

Ah, oh, so the HW works and you got the speaker connector in the
hole. That's good![1] ;)

>At different times during the last one and a half years, I tried to
>make sound work on my new Gentoo install on a computer with Gigabyte
>GA-MA790FXT-UD5P motherboard and MSI ATI Radeon R4770 graphic card.

Ok, that board should be rather closeish to mine (GA-MA770TA-UD3.
Might use a different soundchip though, but those should work
automatically.

[..]
>lspci | grep "Audio"
>00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00
>Azalia (Intel HDA)
>01:00.1 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV710/730
>HDMI Audio [Radeon HD 4000 series]

Simliar here, but it'd be interesting, what actual device is that
onboard sound, here it's:

$ /sbin/lspci -nn | grep Audio
00:14.2 Audio device [0403]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] SBx00 
Azalia (Intel HDA) [1002:4383]
[plus the HDMI of the video card]

According to the MoBo manual, it's a Realtek ALC888 codec.

>My current kernel configuration is exactly the same as in the
>gentoo-kernel-5.4.64 package as I have not changed anything there.

This works here:

CONFIG_SND=y
CONFIG_SND_TIMER=y
CONFIG_SND_PCM=y
CONFIG_SND_HWDEP=m
CONFIG_SND_DRIVERS=y
CONFIG_SND_PCI=y

CONFIG_SND_HDA=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_HWDEP=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_RECONFIG=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CORE=m
CONFIG_SND_SPI=y

Not sure if CONFIG_SND_SPI and CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC are needed, but
the other ones seem crucial.

Oh, the above is for a 4.14 kernel, but has been the same for a looong
time now.

HTH,
-dnh

[1] happend to me a few days ago when I, after a long time again, un-
and then wrongly replugged the speaker on my MoBo ;)

-- 
WoKo ist so etwas, wie eine seltsame Schleife. Wenn zwei von ihnen zusammen-
kommen, erklären sie sich gegenseitig für nichtexistent und löschen sich auf
diese Weise aus. Zum Schluß wird einer übrigbleiben. Und den können wir dann
ganz leicht am nächsten Baum aufknüpfen...  [Daniel Reutter in dag°]

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound from audacity...

[Daniel Pielmeier]

Am June 26, 2020 3:37:03 PM UTC schrieb "Matt Connell (Gmail)" 
:
>On 2020-06-26 06:00, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
>> Also I only every see you asking questions but
>> never trying to answer questions of others.
>
>To play devil's advocate, and at the risk of going off-topic straight 
>away, a person who has a lot of issues/questions is going to be less 
>likely to be confident and knowledgeable enough to answer someone
>else's 
>question.  They'll be more likely to defer to more experienced readers.
>
>I have about 7 years of daily Gentoo use under my belt and I'm still
>not 
>confident enough to answer a lot of the questions on this list without 
>some research and testing on my own, which time does not always permit.
>
>You make good, valid points otherwise.  Just wanted to share that 
>internet stage-fright and imposter syndrome are both alive and well.

All true! And it is no problem if the help is one sided, but on the other hand 
there are always low hanging fruits!

-- 
Best regards
Daniel

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound from audacity...

[Matt Connell (Gmail)]

On 2020-06-26 06:00, Daniel Pielmeier wrote:

Also I only every see you asking questions but
never trying to answer questions of others.


To play devil's advocate, and at the risk of going off-topic straight 
away, a person who has a lot of issues/questions is going to be less 
likely to be confident and knowledgeable enough to answer someone else's 
question.  They'll be more likely to defer to more experienced readers.


I have about 7 years of daily Gentoo use under my belt and I'm still not 
confident enough to answer a lot of the questions on this list without 
some research and testing on my own, which time does not always permit.


You make good, valid points otherwise.  Just wanted to share that 
internet stage-fright and imposter syndrome are both alive and well.

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound from audacity...

[Daniel Pielmeier]

tu...@posteo.de schrieb am 26.06.20 um 12:06:
> Hi,
> 
> got a strange problem with audacity:
> I did:
> Load a *.wav file into audacity (it contains sound as visible in audacity 
> Menu->Select->Select all
> Press play bottom
> 
> Nothing
> 
> This is printed on the console:
> 
> Expression 'framesAvail' failed in 
> '/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/portaudio-19.06.00-r3/work/portaudio/src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c',
>  line: 3625
> Expression 'PaAlsaStreamComponent_GetAvailableFrames( self, &framesAvail, 
> xrun )' failed in 
> '/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/portaudio-19.06.00-r3/work/portaudio/src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c',
>  line: 3974
> Expression 'PaAlsaStreamComponent_RegisterChannels( &self->playback, 
> &self->bufferProcessor, &playbackFrames, &xrun )' failed in 
> '/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/portaudio-19.06.00-r3/work/portaudio/src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c',
>  line: 4103
> Expression 'PaAlsaStream_SetUpBuffers( stream, &framesGot, &xrun )' failed in 
> '/var/tmp/portage/media-libs/portaudio-19.06.00-r3/work/portaudio/src/hostapi/alsa/pa_linux_alsa.c',
>  line: 4344
> 
> My installation is:
> 
> 
> [I] media-sound/audacity
>  Available versions:  2.2.2^t (~)2.3.2^t (~)2.3.3^t {alsa doc ffmpeg 
> +flac id3tag jack +ladspa +lame +lv2 mad (+)midi nls +portmixer sbsms 
> +soundtouch twolame vamp +vorbis +vst CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse"}
>  Installed versions:  2.3.3^t(11:30:03 AM 06/26/2020)(alsa ffmpeg flac 
> ladspa lame lv2 mad nls portmixer soundtouch vorbis vst -doc -id3tag -jack 
> -midi -sbsms -twolame -vamp CPU_FLAGS_X86="sse")
>  Homepage:https://web.audacityteam.org/
>  Description: Free crossplatform audio editor
> 
> 
> Playback works fine using mpv, Firefox, etc...only audacity has a
> problem.
> 
> Is it hardwired to pulseaudio?


First I thought about not responding here but decided otherwise. May I
ask you first if you did a basic search about this issue before posting
here?

If I look for "'PaAlsaStreamComponent_GetAvailableFrames( self,
&framesAvail, xrun )' failed" the first result is a link to the Gentoo
forum [1] which suggests the installation of alsa-oss to fix this issue.

So did you look for the issue and put some effort into it before posting
here? No offense but you post a lot of questions about problems you have
here which in my opinion are often solved with little effort you could
have done yourself. So the thought pops up that you are just lazy and
let others do the work. Also I only every see you asking questions but
never trying to answer questions of others.

Explaining your problem and also stating what you already tried or where
you have looked for a solution will avoid that people get that
impressions and they may be more helpful. Or the post is completely
unnecessary because you solved it yourself after 5 minutes of
investigation which saves the time of all the other list participants.

Just a friendly recommendation from me as over time this annoys me a
little and probably I am not the only one here. If people are annoyed it
is unlikely for them to help. So help yourself to make others help you.

[1] https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1109266-start-0.html

-- 
Best Regards
Daniel




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Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound After Reboot, or, More Troubles with Firmware?

[Walter Dnes]

On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 10:18:06PM -0500, Hunter Jozwiak wrote
> Hello again,
> 
> While fixing my wifi card issues, I came across yet another issue. I
> set the snd-hda-intel PCH as my default soundcard, but I have no sound
> whatsoever, which renders the system pretty much inoperable to me. I
> tried the following:
> amixer set Master unmute
> amixer set Speaker unmute
> amixer set Headphone unmute
> These all went to no evail; no speech from espeakup, and nothing from
> speaker-test. Am I missing something here? Is there an amixer set All
> unmute or something? configlessnd_hda_intel is enabled as a module, as
> is the Realtek codec; the system picked up on the device fine.

  Did you run "alsamixer" and check if sound is muted?

-- 
Walter Dnes 
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications

Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound After Reboot, or, More Troubles with Firmware?

[Adam Carter]

On Tue, Dec 19, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Hunter Jozwiak 
wrote:

> Hello again,
>
> While fixing my wifi card issues, I came across yet another issue. I
> set the snd-hda-intel PCH as my default soundcard, but I have no sound
> whatsoever, which renders the system pretty much inoperable to me. I
> tried the following:
> amixer set Master unmute
> amixer set Speaker unmute
> amixer set Headphone unmute
> These all went to no evail; no speech from espeakup, and nothing from
> speaker-test. Am I missing something here? Is there an amixer set All
> unmute or something? configlessnd_hda_intel is enabled as a module, as
> is the Realtek codec; the system picked up on the device fine.
>
>
Did you setup /etc/asound.conf or .asoundrc ?
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/ALSA

I was under the impression that pulse uses the lower level ALSA stuff, so
you can use ALSA without pulse but not pulse without ALSA

Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound After Reboot, or, More Troubles with Firmware?

[Dale]

Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
> Hello again,
>
> While fixing my wifi card issues, I came across yet another issue. I
> set the snd-hda-intel PCH as my default soundcard, but I have no sound
> whatsoever, which renders the system pretty much inoperable to me. I
> tried the following:
> amixer set Master unmute
> amixer set Speaker unmute
> amixer set Headphone unmute
> These all went to no evail; no speech from espeakup, and nothing from
> speaker-test. Am I missing something here? Is there an amixer set All
> unmute or something? configlessnd_hda_intel is enabled as a module, as
> is the Realtek codec; the system picked up on the device fine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hunter
>
>


It's been a loong time since I had to deal with this.  I recall
unmuting the ones you listed but there is another one that I had to
unmute and I can't recall what it was for sure.  I want to say it was
Kmix, since I use KDE, but not sure.  If it's loading correctly, I bet
something somewhere is muted.  I sort of wish that wasn't the default.

I might add, I once plugged the speakers into the wrong plug too.  It
looked like the right one.  lol 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound After Reboot, or, More Troubles with Firmware?

[eric]

On 12/18/2017 08:18 PM, Hunter Jozwiak wrote:
> Hello again,
> 
> While fixing my wifi card issues, I came across yet another issue. I
> set the snd-hda-intel PCH as my default soundcard, but I have no sound
> whatsoever, which renders the system pretty much inoperable to me. I
> tried the following:
> amixer set Master unmute
> amixer set Speaker unmute
> amixer set Headphone unmute
> These all went to no evail; no speech from espeakup, and nothing from
> speaker-test. Am I missing something here? Is there an amixer set All
> unmute or something? configlessnd_hda_intel is enabled as a module, as
> is the Realtek codec; the system picked up on the device fine.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Hunter
> 
> 



Hunter,

I am a new gentoo user and had trouble getting my sound card to work.
It took me a lot of head scratching and I was able to finally get it to
be recognized.

I don't know what the statement below means or where you set this
configuration.

> set the snd-hda-intel PCH as my default soundcard


On my system

$ lspci | grep Audio

00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Sunrise Point-H HD Audio (rev 31)
01:00.1 Audio device: NVIDIA Corporation Device 10f1 (rev a1)

and

$ lsmod

Module  Size  Used by
nvidia_drm 40960  1
nvidia_modeset864256  4 nvidia_drm
nvidia  13398016  170 nvidia_modeset
snd_hda_codec_hdmi 45056  0
xhci_pci   16384  0
xhci_hcd  139264  1 xhci_pci
x86_pkg_temp_thermal16384  0
i2c_hid20480  0

My kernel config file shows

# cat .config | grep SND_HDA

CONFIG_SND_HDA=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_HWDEP=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_RECONFIG=y
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP is not set
CONFIG_SND_HDA_PATCH_LOADER=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_ANALOG=m
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SIGMATEL is not set
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_VIA=m
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_HDMI=m
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CIRRUS is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CONEXANT is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0110 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0132 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CMEDIA is not set
# CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SI3054 is not set
CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_POWER_SAVE_DEFAULT=0
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CORE=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_I915=y
CONFIG_SND_HDA_PREALLOC_SIZE=2048


What are you using for your sound?  ALSA or PulseAudio?

I ended up going with PulseAudio myself to get my sound working.

Hope any of this helps you,

Eric

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (now works)

[allan gottlieb]

I cannot explain the following.

I was about the try the last suggestions (use kill -9; load more sound
modules) when I, just for fun, retried alsamixer.  I did the usual
unmute everything and it somehow just worked.

I did nothing new and would not be surprised if, during the next flight,
the headphones fail again, but it is clearly not a kernel problem.

Thanks you all for your help.

allan

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (still bad)

[Fernando Rodriguez]

On 07/17/2016 01:43 PM, allan gottlieb wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 16 2016, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 04:17:04PM -0400, allan gottlieb wrote:
>>>
>>> To answer Alec's questions this is a 3.5mm jack.  Nothing new in dmesg.
>>> sudo lspci | grep -i audio   shows
>>> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller (rev 
>>> 09)
>>> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High
>>> Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
>>>
>>> I think/hope we are getting close and thank everyone for their help.
>>>
>>> allan
>>>
>>
>> Just double checking; what is the value of these config keys in your
>> kernel config?
>>
>> * SND_HDA_INTEL
>> * SND_INTEL* (there are a few of these)
>> * SND_SOC_INTEL* (there are a few of these)
> 
> E7450-wired linux # grep SND_HDA_INTEL .config
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=y
> E7450-wired linux # grep 'SND_INTEL*' .config
> # CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0 is not set
> # CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set
> E7450-wired linux # grep 'SND_SOC_INTEL*' .config
> E7450-wired linux # 
> 
> Is this last empty reply significant?

Those are usually for smartphones and other System-On-Chip embedded
system. How about:

# grep CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC .config

It is possible that the headset runs off a different chip and
you're missing the codec driver for it. To check enable them all in
the same way you're building your other audio drivers (modules or
builtin). If it works you just need to figure out which one you
need and disable the rest.



>> I'm completely grasping at straws here. Another option may be opening up
>> a terminal and running:
>>
>> pulseaudio --kill
>> pulseaudio --start --daemonize=no --verbose
>>
>> Then try and use audio and see what exactly gets spit out.
>>
>> Audio for me Just Works (tm), so I hope this helps.
>>
>> Alec
> 
> gottlieb@E7450-wired /local/allan/gottlieb $ pulseaudio --kill
> gottlieb@E7450-wired /local/allan/gottlieb $ pulseaudio --start 
> --daemonize=no --verbose
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation 
> not permitted
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation 
> not permitted
> I: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Failed to acquire high-priority scheduling: No 
> such file or directory
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: This is PulseAudio 8.0
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Page size is 4096 bytes
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Machine ID is 6089ce1bfebfff5e96a31beb55b51fc9.
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Session ID is 1.
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using runtime directory /run/user/1000/pulse.
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using state directory /home/gottlieb/.config/pulse.
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using modules directory /usr/lib64/pulse-8.0/modules.
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode: no
> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
> 
> Starting audio did not cause anything to be printed.
> 
> allan
> 
> 

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (still bad)

[Alec Ten Harmsel]

On Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 01:43:29PM -0400, allan gottlieb wrote:
> 
> E7450-wired linux # grep SND_HDA_INTEL .config
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=y

This is good, I guess?

> E7450-wired linux # grep 'SND_INTEL*' .config
> # CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0 is not set
> # CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set
> E7450-wired linux # grep 'SND_SOC_INTEL*' .config
> E7450-wired linux # 
> 
> Is this last empty reply significant?

Maybe? You could try reconfiguring your kernel with all of the Intel
audio-related drivers as modules, and see what happens.

> > I'm completely grasping at straws here. Another option may be opening up
> > a terminal and running:
> >
> > pulseaudio --kill
> > pulseaudio --start --daemonize=no --verbose
> >
> > Then try and use audio and see what exactly gets spit out.
> >
> > Audio for me Just Works (tm), so I hope this helps.
> >
> > Alec
> 
> gottlieb@E7450-wired /local/allan/gottlieb $ pulseaudio --kill
> gottlieb@E7450-wired /local/allan/gottlieb $ pulseaudio --start 
> --daemonize=no --verbose
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation 
> not permitted
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation 
> not permitted
> I: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Failed to acquire high-priority scheduling: No 
> such file or directory
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: This is PulseAudio 8.0
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Page size is 4096 bytes
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Machine ID is 6089ce1bfebfff5e96a31beb55b51fc9.
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Session ID is 1.
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using runtime directory /run/user/1000/pulse.
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using state directory /home/gottlieb/.config/pulse.
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using modules directory /usr/lib64/pulse-8.0/modules.
> I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode: no
> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
> 
> Starting audio did not cause anything to be printed.

It exited immediately because `pulseaudio --kill' did not actually kill
PulseAudio. Maybe try:

pkill -9 pulseaudio
pulseaudio --start --daemonize=no --verbose

Alec

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (still bad)

[allan gottlieb]

On Sat, Jul 16 2016, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 04:17:04PM -0400, allan gottlieb wrote:
>> 
>> To answer Alec's questions this is a 3.5mm jack.  Nothing new in dmesg.
>> sudo lspci | grep -i audio   shows
>> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller (rev 09)
>> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High
>> Definition Audio Controller (rev 03)
>> 
>> I think/hope we are getting close and thank everyone for their help.
>> 
>> allan
>> 
>
> Just double checking; what is the value of these config keys in your
> kernel config?
>
> * SND_HDA_INTEL
> * SND_INTEL* (there are a few of these)
> * SND_SOC_INTEL* (there are a few of these)

E7450-wired linux # grep SND_HDA_INTEL .config
CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=y
E7450-wired linux # grep 'SND_INTEL*' .config
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0 is not set
# CONFIG_SND_INTEL8X0M is not set
E7450-wired linux # grep 'SND_SOC_INTEL*' .config
E7450-wired linux # 

Is this last empty reply significant?

> I'm completely grasping at straws here. Another option may be opening up
> a terminal and running:
>
> pulseaudio --kill
> pulseaudio --start --daemonize=no --verbose
>
> Then try and use audio and see what exactly gets spit out.
>
> Audio for me Just Works (tm), so I hope this helps.
>
> Alec

gottlieb@E7450-wired /local/allan/gottlieb $ pulseaudio --kill
gottlieb@E7450-wired /local/allan/gottlieb $ pulseaudio --start --daemonize=no 
--verbose
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_NICE, (31, 31)) failed: Operation not 
permitted
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: setrlimit(RLIMIT_RTPRIO, (9, 9)) failed: Operation not 
permitted
I: [pulseaudio] core-util.c: Failed to acquire high-priority scheduling: No 
such file or directory
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: This is PulseAudio 8.0
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Page size is 4096 bytes
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Machine ID is 6089ce1bfebfff5e96a31beb55b51fc9.
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Session ID is 1.
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using runtime directory /run/user/1000/pulse.
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using state directory /home/gottlieb/.config/pulse.
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Using modules directory /usr/lib64/pulse-8.0/modules.
I: [pulseaudio] main.c: Running in system mode: no
E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.

Starting audio did not cause anything to be printed.

allan

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (still bad)

[Alec Ten Harmsel]

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 04:17:04PM -0400, allan gottlieb wrote:
> 
> To answer Alec's questions this is a 3.5mm jack.  Nothing new in dmesg.
> sudo lspci | grep -i audio   shows
> 00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller (rev 09)
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High Definition 
> Audio Controller (rev 03)
> 
> I think/hope we are getting close and thank everyone for their help.
> 
> allan
> 

Just double checking; what is the value of these config keys in your
kernel config?

* SND_HDA_INTEL
* SND_INTEL* (there are a few of these)
* SND_SOC_INTEL* (there are a few of these)

I'm completely grasping at straws here. Another option may be opening up
a terminal and running:

pulseaudio --kill
pulseaudio --start --daemonize=no --verbose

Then try and use audio and see what exactly gets spit out.

Audio for me Just Works (tm), so I hope this helps.

Alec

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (still bad)

[allan gottlieb]

On Sat, Jul 16 2016, Ian Bloss wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 8:25 AM allan gottlieb  wrote:
>
>> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop
>>
>> Gentoo essentially all stable
>> Gnome / Systemd
>>
>> When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no headphones are
>> plugged it.
>>
>> No sound at all with headphones.  I tried a few, one with a microphone
>> several without.
>>
>> The gnome sound settings gui recognizes that the headphones are in but
>> the sound test is silent.  If, with the phones still in, I select the
>> internal speakers, all sounds well.
>>
>> I installed pauvcontrol and selected "Output Devices".
>> When I selected "Speakers" as the port the volume meter moves around
>> normally and the sound is fine.
>> When I selected "Headphones (plugged in)" as the port the volume meter
>> again moves around normally but there is no sound.
>>
>> This laptop dual boots windows.  I played the same movie on windows and
>> sound was normal both with the speakers and the headphones.
>>
>> What should I try next?
>>
>> thanks,
>> allan
>>
>
> check either with alsamixer and make sure the headphone jack isn't muted,
> or look into pulseaudio if you're using that, although I can't help much
> there as I don't use pulse.

I tried alsamixer with interesting results.  I used f3 [playback].

I first unmuted everything and tried to raise the volume of all.
I could raise the volume of all but the first headphone column

The columns from left to right are

Master Headphone Headphone Headphone Speaker PCM Auto-Mute et al
 
   |
   could not raise this column
   
When the headphone is plugged in the second column is set to un-mute and
the speaker column is set to mute.  When the headphone is unplugged the
reverse occurs.  All this looks right.  But I can't raise the volume
setting for the second column (I can and did raise columns 3 and 4.

I sure looks like the headphone gets unmuted but is permanently at
volume 0.

Also the gnome volume control (top bar) shows headphone and when I move
its slider it raises/lowers the first column (master) volume.

To answer Alec's questions this is a 3.5mm jack.  Nothing new in dmesg.
sudo lspci | grep -i audio   shows
00:03.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Audio Controller (rev 09)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Wildcat Point-LP High Definition Audio 
Controller (rev 03)

I think/hope we are getting close and thank everyone for their help.

allan

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (still bad)

[Alec Ten Harmsel]

Hi,

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 11:24:20AM -0400, allan gottlieb wrote:
> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop
> 
> Gentoo essentially all stable
> Gnome / Systemd

This is basically my setup, but I don't run gnome.

> When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no headphones are
> plugged it.
> 
> No sound at all with headphones.  I tried a few, one with a microphone
> several without.

USB or 3.5mm jack?

> The gnome sound settings gui recognizes that the headphones are in but
> the sound test is silent.  If, with the phones still in, I select the
> internal speakers, all sounds well.
> 
> I installed pauvcontrol and selected "Output Devices".
> When I selected "Speakers" as the port the volume meter moves around
> normally and the sound is fine.
> When I selected "Headphones (plugged in)" as the port the volume meter
> again moves around normally but there is no sound.
> 
> This laptop dual boots windows.  I played the same movie on windows and
> sound was normal both with the speakers and the headphones.
> 
> What should I try next?
 
What does running `dmesg' output around the time that you plug in and
unplug your headphones? Around the time that you start a movie/music?

What about `lsusb', `lspci', etc?

Alec

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (still bad)

[Ian Bloss]

check either with alsamixer and make sure the headphone jack isn't muted,
or look into pulseaudio if you're using that, although I can't help much
there as I don't use pulse.

On Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 8:25 AM allan gottlieb  wrote:

> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop
>
> Gentoo essentially all stable
> Gnome / Systemd
>
> When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no headphones are
> plugged it.
>
> No sound at all with headphones.  I tried a few, one with a microphone
> several without.
>
> The gnome sound settings gui recognizes that the headphones are in but
> the sound test is silent.  If, with the phones still in, I select the
> internal speakers, all sounds well.
>
> I installed pauvcontrol and selected "Output Devices".
> When I selected "Speakers" as the port the volume meter moves around
> normally and the sound is fine.
> When I selected "Headphones (plugged in)" as the port the volume meter
> again moves around normally but there is no sound.
>
> This laptop dual boots windows.  I played the same movie on windows and
> sound was normal both with the speakers and the headphones.
>
> What should I try next?
>
> thanks,
> allan
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (OK through speakers)

[allan gottlieb]

On Wed, Jul 13 2016, wabe wrote:

> allan gottlieb  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 13 2016, wabe wrote:
>> 
>> > allan gottlieb  wrote:
>> >  
>> >> On Wed, Jul 13 2016, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> >>   
>> >> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM, allan gottlieb
>> >> >  wrote:
>> >> >> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Gentoo essentially all stable
>> >> >> Gnome / Systemd
>> >> >>
>> >> >> When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no headphones
>> >> >> are plugged it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> No sound at all with headphones (I tried three different ones).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The sound settings gui recognizes that headphones are in.  The
>> >> >> sound test is silent.  If I select the internal speakers in the
>> >> >> gui (with the headphones still in) sound is fine.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Is there some headphone option I must enable in the kernel or
>> >> >> elsewhere?
>> >> >
>> >> > The volume is probably muted for the headphones. Install
>> >> > pavucontrol, and execute it while the movie is playing. In the
>> >> > "Output Devices" tab look for your sound card (probably something
>> >> > like "Built-in Audio"), and in port select "Headphones". Then
>> >> > adjust the volume.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards.
>> >> 
>> >> Thank you (and robot1).  I installed pavucontrol and followed your
>> >> instructions.  The volume was selected in the middle (100%).  We
>> >> see a volume meter going up and down as expected with either
>> >> headphones or speakers selected.  When mute is pressed the meter
>> >> looks dead, as expected.
>> >> 
>> >> It also shows line-out is unplugged and headphones are plugged it.
>> >> 
>> >> Any thoughts.  I appreciate the help.  
>> >
>> > Maybe the headphone amp or the headphone socket of your soundcard
>> > is broken. Plug the speakers into the headphone socket and test if
>> > you can hear something. For my experience you can do that without
>> > the risk of killing something, but of course I can give you no
>> > guarantee. :-)
>> e>
>> > --
>> > Regards
>> > wabe  
>> 
>> I can't do that this week.  I can try it next week at home where I
>> think I have speakers that plug in.
>
> If your headphones are headsets with microphones it maybe could be 
> that the headphone socket of the soundcard isn't compatible with 
> the plugs of the headphones. But that's just a thought. I never had 
> a soundcard where this was the case.
>
> --
> Regards
> wabe

They are just earbuds, no mic.  But maybe the port of the laptop assumes
a mic + headphone (i.e., three signals mic, left "ear", right "ear" as
used for cell phones.  I have one of those at home I can try this
weekend.

thanks,
allan

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (OK through speakers)

[wabe]

allan gottlieb  wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 13 2016, wabe wrote:
> 
> > allan gottlieb  wrote:
> >  
> >> On Wed, Jul 13 2016, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> >>   
> >> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM, allan gottlieb
> >> >  wrote:
> >> >> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop
> >> >>
> >> >> Gentoo essentially all stable
> >> >> Gnome / Systemd
> >> >>
> >> >> When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no headphones
> >> >> are plugged it.
> >> >>
> >> >> No sound at all with headphones (I tried three different ones).
> >> >>
> >> >> The sound settings gui recognizes that headphones are in.  The
> >> >> sound test is silent.  If I select the internal speakers in the
> >> >> gui (with the headphones still in) sound is fine.
> >> >>
> >> >> Is there some headphone option I must enable in the kernel or
> >> >> elsewhere?
> >> >
> >> > The volume is probably muted for the headphones. Install
> >> > pavucontrol, and execute it while the movie is playing. In the
> >> > "Output Devices" tab look for your sound card (probably something
> >> > like "Built-in Audio"), and in port select "Headphones". Then
> >> > adjust the volume.
> >> >
> >> > Regards.
> >> 
> >> Thank you (and robot1).  I installed pavucontrol and followed your
> >> instructions.  The volume was selected in the middle (100%).  We
> >> see a volume meter going up and down as expected with either
> >> headphones or speakers selected.  When mute is pressed the meter
> >> looks dead, as expected.
> >> 
> >> It also shows line-out is unplugged and headphones are plugged it.
> >> 
> >> Any thoughts.  I appreciate the help.  
> >
> > Maybe the headphone amp or the headphone socket of your soundcard
> > is broken. Plug the speakers into the headphone socket and test if
> > you can hear something. For my experience you can do that without
> > the risk of killing something, but of course I can give you no
> > guarantee. :-)
> e>
> > --
> > Regards
> > wabe  
> 
> I can't do that this week.  I can try it next week at home where I
> think I have speakers that plug in.

If your headphones are headsets with microphones it maybe could be 
that the headphone socket of the soundcard isn't compatible with 
the plugs of the headphones. But that's just a thought. I never had 
a soundcard where this was the case.

--
Regards
wabe

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (OK through speakers)

[allan gottlieb]

On Wed, Jul 13 2016, wabe wrote:

> allan gottlieb  wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Jul 13 2016, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
>> 
>> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM, allan gottlieb 
>> > wrote:  
>> >> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop
>> >>
>> >> Gentoo essentially all stable
>> >> Gnome / Systemd
>> >>
>> >> When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no headphones are
>> >> plugged it.
>> >>
>> >> No sound at all with headphones (I tried three different ones).
>> >>
>> >> The sound settings gui recognizes that headphones are in.  The
>> >> sound test is silent.  If I select the internal speakers in the
>> >> gui (with the headphones still in) sound is fine.
>> >>
>> >> Is there some headphone option I must enable in the kernel or
>> >> elsewhere?  
>> >
>> > The volume is probably muted for the headphones. Install
>> > pavucontrol, and execute it while the movie is playing. In the
>> > "Output Devices" tab look for your sound card (probably something
>> > like "Built-in Audio"), and in port select "Headphones". Then
>> > adjust the volume.
>> >
>> > Regards.  
>> 
>> Thank you (and robot1).  I installed pavucontrol and followed your
>> instructions.  The volume was selected in the middle (100%).  We see a
>> volume meter going up and down as expected with either headphones or
>> speakers selected.  When mute is pressed the meter looks dead, as
>> expected.
>> 
>> It also shows line-out is unplugged and headphones are plugged it.
>> 
>> Any thoughts.  I appreciate the help.
>
> Maybe the headphone amp or the headphone socket of your soundcard is 
> broken. Plug the speakers into the headphone socket and test if you 
> can hear something. For my experience you can do that without the risk 
> of killing something, but of course I can give you no guarantee. :-)
e>
> --
> Regards
> wabe

I can't do that this week.  I can try it next week at home where I think
I have speakers that plug in.

allan

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (OK through speakers)

[wabe]

allan gottlieb  wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 13 2016, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM, allan gottlieb 
> > wrote:  
> >> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop
> >>
> >> Gentoo essentially all stable
> >> Gnome / Systemd
> >>
> >> When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no headphones are
> >> plugged it.
> >>
> >> No sound at all with headphones (I tried three different ones).
> >>
> >> The sound settings gui recognizes that headphones are in.  The
> >> sound test is silent.  If I select the internal speakers in the
> >> gui (with the headphones still in) sound is fine.
> >>
> >> Is there some headphone option I must enable in the kernel or
> >> elsewhere?  
> >
> > The volume is probably muted for the headphones. Install
> > pavucontrol, and execute it while the movie is playing. In the
> > "Output Devices" tab look for your sound card (probably something
> > like "Built-in Audio"), and in port select "Headphones". Then
> > adjust the volume.
> >
> > Regards.  
> 
> Thank you (and robot1).  I installed pavucontrol and followed your
> instructions.  The volume was selected in the middle (100%).  We see a
> volume meter going up and down as expected with either headphones or
> speakers selected.  When mute is pressed the meter looks dead, as
> expected.
> 
> It also shows line-out is unplugged and headphones are plugged it.
> 
> Any thoughts.  I appreciate the help.

Maybe the headphone amp or the headphone socket of your soundcard is 
broken. Plug the speakers into the headphone socket and test if you 
can hear something. For my experience you can do that without the risk 
of killing something, but of course I can give you no guarantee. :-)

--
Regards
wabe

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (OK through speakers)

[allan gottlieb]

On Wed, Jul 13 2016, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

> On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM, allan gottlieb  wrote:
>> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop
>>
>> Gentoo essentially all stable
>> Gnome / Systemd
>>
>> When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no headphones are
>> plugged it.
>>
>> No sound at all with headphones (I tried three different ones).
>>
>> The sound settings gui recognizes that headphones are in.  The sound
>> test is silent.  If I select the internal speakers in the gui (with the
>> headphones still in) sound is fine.
>>
>> Is there some headphone option I must enable in the kernel or elsewhere?
>
> The volume is probably muted for the headphones. Install pavucontrol,
> and execute it while the movie is playing. In the "Output Devices" tab
> look for your sound card (probably something like "Built-in Audio"),
> and in port select "Headphones". Then adjust the volume.
>
> Regards.

Thank you (and robot1).  I installed pavucontrol and followed your
instructions.  The volume was selected in the middle (100%).  We see a
volume meter going up and down as expected with either headphones or
speakers selected.  When mute is pressed the meter looks dead, as
expected.

It also shows line-out is unplugged and headphones are plugged it.

Any thoughts.  I appreciate the help.

allan

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (OK through speakers)

[R0b0t1]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM, allan gottlieb  wrote:
> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop
>
> Gentoo essentially all stable
> Gnome / Systemd
>
> When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no headphones are
> plugged it.
>
> No sound at all with headphones (I tried three different ones).
>
> The sound settings gui recognizes that headphones are in.  The sound
> test is silent.  If I select the internal speakers in the gui (with the
> headphones still in) sound is fine.
>
> Is there some headphone option I must enable in the kernel or elsewhere?
>
> thanks in advance.
> allan
>
> PS I also tried cat /boot/vmlinux > /dev/audio1.  Silent on headphones

It will remember the volume/mute settings per device. Is it unmuted
and turnt up?

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound through headphones (OK through speakers)

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 12:55 PM, allan gottlieb  wrote:
> Hardware: Dell Latitude E7450 laptop
>
> Gentoo essentially all stable
> Gnome / Systemd
>
> When I play a movie using totem it sounds fine if no headphones are
> plugged it.
>
> No sound at all with headphones (I tried three different ones).
>
> The sound settings gui recognizes that headphones are in.  The sound
> test is silent.  If I select the internal speakers in the gui (with the
> headphones still in) sound is fine.
>
> Is there some headphone option I must enable in the kernel or elsewhere?

The volume is probably muted for the headphones. Install pavucontrol,
and execute it while the movie is playing. In the "Output Devices" tab
look for your sound card (probably something like "Built-in Audio"),
and in port select "Headphones". Then adjust the volume.

Regards.
-- 
Dr. Canek Peláez Valdés
Profesor de Carrera Asociado C
Departamento de Matemáticas
Facultad de Ciencias
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using pulse audio

[Claudio Roberto França Pereira]

> Yes, and also /etc/firefox/firefoxrc containing FIREFOX_DSP="padsp"
>
> Thanks
> Francisco

I can't reproduce this. I'm using ~amd64, firefox 8, pulseaudio 1.1.
Do you have multiple sound cards or sound output devices? Maybe the
sound is going to another sink that the one you expected? I'm under
KDE, and KMix have a cool "extension" by PA that let me direct streams
online to the sink I wish.

Re: Re: [gentoo-user] no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using pulse audio

[frares]

On , Claudio Roberto França Pereira  wrote:

$ cat /etc/asound.conf
pcm.pulse {
type pulse
}



ctl.pulse {
type pulse
}



pcm.!default {
type pulse
}



ctl.!default {
type pulse
}



Do you have this?



Yes, and also /etc/firefox/firefoxrc containing FIREFOX_DSP="padsp"

Thanks
Francisco

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound on upgraded Firefox from 7 to 8 - using pulse audio

[Claudio Roberto França Pereira]

$ cat /etc/asound.conf
pcm.pulse {
type pulse
}

ctl.pulse {
type pulse
}

pcm.!default {
type pulse
}

ctl.!default {
type pulse
}

Do you have this?

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 4:41 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
> dear Valdáez!
> I still didn't mention to say thank you very much for all of your
> support. It works, and that wonderfully.
>
> I deeply apologize answering that late, I was the last days sick and
> couldn't answer anyone.

No prob.

> Listening to music works fine, only the mic doesn't work :(

Should work using pavucontrol: install it and check the "Input
devices" tab (it's the fourth one in my laptop).

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Tamer Higazi]

dear Valdáez!
I still didn't mention to say thank you very much for all of your
support. It works, and that wonderfully.

I deeply apologize answering that late, I was the last days sick and
couldn't answer anyone.

Listening to music works fine, only the mic doesn't work :(


Tamer

Am 29.09.2011 16:51, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
>> Am 29.09.2011 01:27, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
 Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi  
> wrote:
>> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  
>>> wrote:
 Hi!
 I have configured pulseaudio according

 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio


 but I simply have no sound.

 The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
 are jumping if I playback a music track.

 alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
 gst-plugins-pulse

 are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
 sound output at my headphones.

 PS: the headphones are ok.

 Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
>>
>> ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
>>
>> I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
>>
>>
>> pcm.pulse {
>>type pulse
>> }
>>
>> ctl.pulse {
>>type pulse
>> }
>>
>> for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!
>
> Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
> then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
> "all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:
>
> pcm.!default {
> type pulse
> }
>
> ctl.!default {
> type pulse
> }
>
>> The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output plugins.
>
> That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
> the desired output
>
>>> What Desktop do you use?
>>
>> Gnome, latest 2.x version
>>
>>  Is the pulseaudio daemon running?
>>
>> Yes!
>>
>> tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls
>>
>> |-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
>>| |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
>>| `-{pulseaudio}(22842)
>
> Looks OK.
>
>> I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"
>
> I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
> make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
> /etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
> before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
> works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
> files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.
>
 As requested, I moved the pulse folder somewhere else and remerged
 pulseaudio as well moved /etc/asound.conf somewhere else as well.

 No sound!
>>>
>>> Weird.
>>>
> I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
> exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
> follow this:
>
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
>
> And more specifically:
>
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME
>
> and
>
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications
>
> Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
> You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
> root)
>
> alsamixer -V all

 I did, and fired all the bars up. nothing! really nothing!
>>>
>>> Really weird.
>>>
> and trying to unmute and turn up the volume on everything. When you
> hear something with any player, return the asound.conf to /etc and try
> again.
>
> Regards.

 I have the dumb feeling that one process is blocking the output, I hear
 in my headphones the white noise of my system, which wouldn't be there
 if the soundcard hadn't been initialised.
>>>
>>> It's more simple than that: if you see the bars movind in the mixer
>>> application, some sound should be made.
>>>
 Is there a way to find out which applications might make use of the
 soundcard right now?!
>>>
>>> Probably with strace or a similar tool; however, let me see first if
>>> I'm understanding the problem. This is a laptop?
>>
>> A usual tower machine! Core2 DUO, nothing's special!
>>
>>  If so, the sound
>>> works without headphones? The internal speakers work?
>>
>> with the headphones a

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Spidey / Claudio]

On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 11:51, Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Tamer Higazi 
> wrote:
> > Am 29.09.2011 01:27, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi 
> wrote:
> >>> Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>  On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi 
> wrote:
> > Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> >> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi <
> th9...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi!
> >>> I have configured pulseaudio according
> >>>
> >>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> but I simply have no sound.
> >>>
> >>> The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the
> bars
> >>> are jumping if I playback a music track.
> >>>
> >>> alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
> >>> gst-plugins-pulse
> >>>
> >>> are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have
> no
> >>> sound output at my headphones.
> >>>
> >>> PS: the headphones are ok.
> >>>
> >>> Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
> >
> > ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
> >
> > I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
> >
> >
> > pcm.pulse {
> >type pulse
> > }
> >
> > ctl.pulse {
> >type pulse
> > }
> >
> > for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!
> 
>  Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
>  then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
>  "all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:
> 
>  pcm.!default {
>  type pulse
>  }
> 
>  ctl.!default {
>  type pulse
>  }
> 
> > The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output
> plugins.
> 
>  That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
>  the desired output
> 
> >> What Desktop do you use?
> >
> > Gnome, latest 2.x version
> >
> >  Is the pulseaudio daemon running?
> >
> > Yes!
> >
> > tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls
> >
> >
> |-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
> >| |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
> >| `-{pulseaudio}(22842)
> 
>  Looks OK.
> 
> > I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"
> 
>  I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
>  make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
>  /etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
>  before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
>  works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
>  files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.
> 
> >>> As requested, I moved the pulse folder somewhere else and remerged
> >>> pulseaudio as well moved /etc/asound.conf somewhere else as well.
> >>>
> >>> No sound!
> >>
> >> Weird.
> >>
>  I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
>  exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
>  follow this:
> 
>  http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
> 
>  And more specifically:
> 
>  http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME
> 
>  and
> 
>  http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications
> 
>  Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
>  You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
>  root)
> 
>  alsamixer -V all
> >>>
> >>> I did, and fired all the bars up. nothing! really nothing!
> >>
> >> Really weird.
> >>
>  and trying to unmute and turn up the volume on everything. When you
>  hear something with any player, return the asound.conf to /etc and try
>  again.
> 
>  Regards.
> >>>
> >>> I have the dumb feeling that one process is blocking the output, I hear
> >>> in my headphones the white noise of my system, which wouldn't be there
> >>> if the soundcard hadn't been initialised.
> >>
> >> It's more simple than that: if you see the bars movind in the mixer
> >> application, some sound should be made.
> >>
> >>> Is there a way to find out which applications might make use of the
> >>> soundcard right now?!
> >>
> >> Probably with strace or a similar tool; however, let me see first if
> >> I'm understanding the problem. This is a laptop?
> >
> > A usual tower machine! Core2 DUO, nothing's special!
> >
> >  If so, the sound
> >> works without headphones? The internal speakers work?
> >
> > with the headphones all the time
> >
> > There are no internal speakers (not a notebook)
> >>
> >> Also, can you please post t

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
> Am 29.09.2011 01:27, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
>>> Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi  
 wrote:
> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  
>> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> I have configured pulseaudio according
>>>
>>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio
>>>
>>>
>>> but I simply have no sound.
>>>
>>> The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
>>> are jumping if I playback a music track.
>>>
>>> alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
>>> gst-plugins-pulse
>>>
>>> are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
>>> sound output at my headphones.
>>>
>>> PS: the headphones are ok.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
>
> ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
>
> I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
>
>
> pcm.pulse {
>    type pulse
> }
>
> ctl.pulse {
>    type pulse
> }
>
> for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!

 Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
 then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
 "all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:

 pcm.!default {
     type pulse
 }

 ctl.!default {
     type pulse
 }

> The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output plugins.

 That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
 the desired output

>> What Desktop do you use?
>
> Gnome, latest 2.x version
>
>  Is the pulseaudio daemon running?
>
> Yes!
>
> tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls
>
> |-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
>        |                         |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
>        |                         `-{pulseaudio}(22842)

 Looks OK.

> I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"

 I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
 make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
 /etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
 before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
 works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
 files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.

>>> As requested, I moved the pulse folder somewhere else and remerged
>>> pulseaudio as well moved /etc/asound.conf somewhere else as well.
>>>
>>> No sound!
>>
>> Weird.
>>
 I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
 exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
 follow this:

 http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup

 And more specifically:

 http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME

 and

 http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications

 Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
 You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
 root)

 alsamixer -V all
>>>
>>> I did, and fired all the bars up. nothing! really nothing!
>>
>> Really weird.
>>
 and trying to unmute and turn up the volume on everything. When you
 hear something with any player, return the asound.conf to /etc and try
 again.

 Regards.
>>>
>>> I have the dumb feeling that one process is blocking the output, I hear
>>> in my headphones the white noise of my system, which wouldn't be there
>>> if the soundcard hadn't been initialised.
>>
>> It's more simple than that: if you see the bars movind in the mixer
>> application, some sound should be made.
>>
>>> Is there a way to find out which applications might make use of the
>>> soundcard right now?!
>>
>> Probably with strace or a similar tool; however, let me see first if
>> I'm understanding the problem. This is a laptop?
>
> A usual tower machine! Core2 DUO, nothing's special!
>
>  If so, the sound
>> works without headphones? The internal speakers work?
>
> with the headphones all the time
>
> There are no internal speakers (not a notebook)
>>
>> Also, can you please post the output of "pactl list"?
> Yes of course, here it is:
>
> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wDgy3x64

OK, I'm back on my laptop. I would have told you yesterday the
commands, but using my phone keyboard make it slightly impossible.

The problem (I think) is that your sound card has digital and analog
outputs. At some point in the future, the kernel drivers would be able
to auto-d

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Tamer Higazi]

You are absolutely right!
when I added asound.conf again, all alsa sources are directed to
pulseaudio and again no sound.

I am not an expert with pulseaudio. If you can help me there, I would
thank you.

In the meanwhile I will see how to get it handled. As I got it
(hopefully) solved, I will repost.


Thanks


Tamer

Am 29.09.2011 02:58, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> I think I see the problem: the sound is getting through the digital
> output, not the analog one (near the end of pactl output). You need to
> set the analog output: pactl man page will tell you how (sorry, left the
> laptop at the office and I'm writing this on my phone). It's also
> possible to do it with gnome-sound-settings, in the hardware tab (if I
> remember correctly).
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> El 28/09/2011 20:27, "Tamer Higazi"  > escribió:
>> Am 29.09.2011 01:27, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi  > wrote:
 Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi
> mailto:th9...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
>> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi
> mailto:th9...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
 Hi!
 I have configured pulseaudio according

 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio


 but I simply have no sound.

 The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that
> the bars
 are jumping if I playback a music track.

 alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
 gst-plugins-pulse

 are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I
> have no
 sound output at my headphones.

 PS: the headphones are ok.

 Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
>>
>> ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
>>
>> I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
>>
>>
>> pcm.pulse {
>> type pulse
>> }
>>
>> ctl.pulse {
>> type pulse
>> }
>>
>> for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!
>
> Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
> then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
> "all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:
>
> pcm.!default {
> type pulse
> }
>
> ctl.!default {
> type pulse
> }
>
>> The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output
> plugins.
>
> That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
> the desired output
>
>>> What Desktop do you use?
>>
>> Gnome, latest 2.x version
>>
>> Is the pulseaudio daemon running?
>>
>> Yes!
>>
>> tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls
>>
>>
> |-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
>> | |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
>> | `-{pulseaudio}(22842)
>
> Looks OK.
>
>> I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"
>
> I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
> make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
> /etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
> before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
> works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
> files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.
>
 As requested, I moved the pulse folder somewhere else and remerged
 pulseaudio as well moved /etc/asound.conf somewhere else as well.

 No sound!
>>>
>>> Weird.
>>>
> I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
> exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
> follow this:
>
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
>
> And more specifically:
>
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME
>
> and
>
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications
>
> Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
> You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
> root)
>
> alsamixer -V all

 I did, and fired all the bars up. nothing! really nothing!
>>>
>>> Really weird.
>>>
> and trying to unmute and turn up the volume on everything. When you
> hear something with any player, return the asound.conf to /etc and try
> again.
>
> Regards.

 I have the dumb feeling that one process is blocking the output, I hear
 in my headphones the white noise of my system, which wouldn't be there
 if the soundcard hadn't been initialised.
>>>
>>> It's more simple than that: if you see th

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Spidey / Claudio]

Also, if flash didn't work previously, that's because it was not using
PA (or alsa default device), it was hardcoded to use alsa device hw0,
so they "forcefully" used to use ALSA. Since PA has control over the
sound device (since PA is the mixer, not ALSA), flash couldn't use it,
thus no sound.

I reaffirm, you should use all 4 blocks of configuration in your
asound.conf. It will "create" the PA virtual device and also set it as
default for the system. This way, ALSA software will output to PA too.

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Spidey / Claudio]

pavucontrol is your friend. It lets you configure your sound devices
current profile, and also set the fallback (default) sink.

Claudio Roberto França Pereira (a.k.a. Spidey)
hardMOB - HTForum - @spideybr
Engenharia de Computação - UFES 2006/1



On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 21:58, Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> I think I see the problem: the sound is getting through the digital output,
> not the analog one (near the end of pactl output). You need to set the
> analog output: pactl man page will tell you how (sorry, left the laptop at
> the office and I'm writing this on my phone). It's also possible to do it
> with gnome-sound-settings, in the hardware tab (if I remember correctly).
>
> Good luck.
>
> El 28/09/2011 20:27, "Tamer Higazi"  escribió:
>> Am 29.09.2011 01:27, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi 
>>> wrote:
 Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi 
> wrote:
>> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi 
>>> wrote:
 Hi!
 I have configured pulseaudio according

 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio


 but I simply have no sound.

 The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the
 bars
 are jumping if I playback a music track.

 alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
 gst-plugins-pulse

 are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have
 no
 sound output at my headphones.

 PS: the headphones are ok.

 Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
>>
>> ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
>>
>> I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
>>
>>
>> pcm.pulse {
>> type pulse
>> }
>>
>> ctl.pulse {
>> type pulse
>> }
>>
>> for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!
>
> Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
> then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
> "all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:
>
> pcm.!default {
> type pulse
> }
>
> ctl.!default {
> type pulse
> }
>
>> The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output
>> plugins.
>
> That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
> the desired output
>
>>> What Desktop do you use?
>>
>> Gnome, latest 2.x version
>>
>> Is the pulseaudio daemon running?
>>
>> Yes!
>>
>> tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls
>>
>>
>> |-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
>> | |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
>> | `-{pulseaudio}(22842)
>
> Looks OK.
>
>> I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"
>
> I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
> make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
> /etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
> before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
> works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
> files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.
>
 As requested, I moved the pulse folder somewhere else and remerged
 pulseaudio as well moved /etc/asound.conf somewhere else as well.

 No sound!
>>>
>>> Weird.
>>>
> I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
> exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
> follow this:
>
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
>
> And more specifically:
>
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME
>
> and
>
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications
>
> Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
> You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
> root)
>
> alsamixer -V all

 I did, and fired all the bars up. nothing! really nothing!
>>>
>>> Really weird.
>>>
> and trying to unmute and turn up the volume on everything. When you
> hear something with any player, return the asound.conf to /etc and try
> again.
>
> Regards.

 I have the dumb feeling that one process is blocking the output, I hear
 in my headphones the white noise of my system, which wouldn't be there
 if the soundcard hadn't been initialised.
>>>
>>> It's more simple than that: if you see the bars movind in the mixer
>>> application, some sound should be made.
>>>
 Is there a way to find out which applications might make use of the
 s

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

I think I see the problem: the sound is getting through the digital output,
not the analog one (near the end of pactl output). You need to set the
analog output: pactl man page will tell you how (sorry, left the laptop at
the office and I'm writing this on my phone). It's also possible to do it
with gnome-sound-settings, in the hardware tab (if I remember correctly).

Good luck.
El 28/09/2011 20:27, "Tamer Higazi"  escribió:
> Am 29.09.2011 01:27, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi 
wrote:
>>> Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi 
wrote:
> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi 
wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> I have configured pulseaudio according
>>>
>>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio
>>>
>>>
>>> but I simply have no sound.
>>>
>>> The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the
bars
>>> are jumping if I playback a music track.
>>>
>>> alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
>>> gst-plugins-pulse
>>>
>>> are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have
no
>>> sound output at my headphones.
>>>
>>> PS: the headphones are ok.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
>
> ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
>
> I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
>
>
> pcm.pulse {
> type pulse
> }
>
> ctl.pulse {
> type pulse
> }
>
> for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!

 Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
 then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
 "all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:

 pcm.!default {
 type pulse
 }

 ctl.!default {
 type pulse
 }

> The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output
plugins.

 That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
 the desired output

>> What Desktop do you use?
>
> Gnome, latest 2.x version
>
> Is the pulseaudio daemon running?
>
> Yes!
>
> tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls
>
>
|-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
> | |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
> | `-{pulseaudio}(22842)

 Looks OK.

> I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"

 I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
 make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
 /etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
 before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
 works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
 files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.

>>> As requested, I moved the pulse folder somewhere else and remerged
>>> pulseaudio as well moved /etc/asound.conf somewhere else as well.
>>>
>>> No sound!
>>
>> Weird.
>>
 I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
 exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
 follow this:

 http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup

 And more specifically:

 http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME

 and

 http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications

 Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
 You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
 root)

 alsamixer -V all
>>>
>>> I did, and fired all the bars up. nothing! really nothing!
>>
>> Really weird.
>>
 and trying to unmute and turn up the volume on everything. When you
 hear something with any player, return the asound.conf to /etc and try
 again.

 Regards.
>>>
>>> I have the dumb feeling that one process is blocking the output, I hear
>>> in my headphones the white noise of my system, which wouldn't be there
>>> if the soundcard hadn't been initialised.
>>
>> It's more simple than that: if you see the bars movind in the mixer
>> application, some sound should be made.
>>
>>> Is there a way to find out which applications might make use of the
>>> soundcard right now?!
>>
>> Probably with strace or a similar tool; however, let me see first if
>> I'm understanding the problem. This is a laptop?
>
> A usual tower machine! Core2 DUO, nothing's special!
>
> If so, the sound
>> works without headphones? The internal speakers work?
>
> with the headphones all the time
>
> There are no internal speakers (not a notebook)
>>
>> Also, can you please post the output of "pactl list"?
> Yes of course, here it is:
>
> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wDgy3x6

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Tamer Higazi]

Am 29.09.2011 01:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
>>> Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi  
 wrote:
> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  
>> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> I have configured pulseaudio according
>>>
>>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio
>>>
>>>
>>> but I simply have no sound.
>>>
>>> The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
>>> are jumping if I playback a music track.
>>>
>>> alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
>>> gst-plugins-pulse
>>>
>>> are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
>>> sound output at my headphones.
>>>
>>> PS: the headphones are ok.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
>
> ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
>
> I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
>
>
> pcm.pulse {
>type pulse
> }
>
> ctl.pulse {
>type pulse
> }
>
> for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!

 Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
 then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
 "all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:

 pcm.!default {
 type pulse
 }

 ctl.!default {
 type pulse
 }

> The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output plugins.

 That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
 the desired output

>> What Desktop do you use?
>
> Gnome, latest 2.x version
>
>  Is the pulseaudio daemon running?
>
> Yes!
>
> tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls
>
> |-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
>| |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
>| `-{pulseaudio}(22842)

 Looks OK.

> I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"

 I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
 make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
 /etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
 before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
 works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
 files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.

>>> As requested, I moved the pulse folder somewhere else and remerged
>>> pulseaudio as well moved /etc/asound.conf somewhere else as well.
>>>
>>> No sound!
>>
>> Weird.
>>
 I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
 exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
 follow this:

 http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup

 And more specifically:

 http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME

 and

 http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications

 Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
 You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
 root)

 alsamixer -V all
>>>
>>> I did, and fired all the bars up. nothing! really nothing!
> 
> Also, in alsamixer not only set the bars up: make sure the control is
> not muted (it has an "M" at the bottom if muted). You can mute/unmute
> pressing the letter 'm'.
> 
> Regards.


I opened the browser, and I hear music WOW!!! but the pulsemeter
playback is death. It does, but not through pulseaudio :(

so with alsa directly we have sound, but not with pulseaudio

Tamer

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Tamer Higazi]

Am 29.09.2011 01:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
>>> Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi  
 wrote:
> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  
>> wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> I have configured pulseaudio according
>>>
>>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio
>>>
>>>
>>> but I simply have no sound.
>>>
>>> The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
>>> are jumping if I playback a music track.
>>>
>>> alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
>>> gst-plugins-pulse
>>>
>>> are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
>>> sound output at my headphones.
>>>
>>> PS: the headphones are ok.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
>
> ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
>
> I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
>
>
> pcm.pulse {
>type pulse
> }
>
> ctl.pulse {
>type pulse
> }
>
> for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!

 Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
 then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
 "all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:

 pcm.!default {
 type pulse
 }

 ctl.!default {
 type pulse
 }

> The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output plugins.

 That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
 the desired output

>> What Desktop do you use?
>
> Gnome, latest 2.x version
>
>  Is the pulseaudio daemon running?
>
> Yes!
>
> tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls
>
> |-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
>| |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
>| `-{pulseaudio}(22842)

 Looks OK.

> I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"

 I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
 make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
 /etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
 before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
 works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
 files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.

>>> As requested, I moved the pulse folder somewhere else and remerged
>>> pulseaudio as well moved /etc/asound.conf somewhere else as well.
>>>
>>> No sound!
>>
>> Weird.
>>
 I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
 exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
 follow this:

 http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup

 And more specifically:

 http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME

 and

 http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications

 Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
 You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
 root)

 alsamixer -V all
>>>
>>> I did, and fired all the bars up. nothing! really nothing!
> 
> Also, in alsamixer not only set the bars up: make sure the control is
> not muted (it has an "M" at the bottom if muted). You can mute/unmute
> pressing the letter 'm'.

I double checked, not all UNMUTED!

and as I have raised all the bars the white sound become more WHITER,
but no playback sound for anything, if you get what I try to say
> 
> Regards.


thx


Tamer

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Tamer Higazi]

Am 29.09.2011 01:27, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
>> Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
 Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  
> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I have configured pulseaudio according
>>
>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio
>>
>>
>> but I simply have no sound.
>>
>> The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
>> are jumping if I playback a music track.
>>
>> alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
>> gst-plugins-pulse
>>
>> are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
>> sound output at my headphones.
>>
>> PS: the headphones are ok.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?

 ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.

 I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:


 pcm.pulse {
type pulse
 }

 ctl.pulse {
type pulse
 }

 for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!
>>>
>>> Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
>>> then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
>>> "all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:
>>>
>>> pcm.!default {
>>> type pulse
>>> }
>>>
>>> ctl.!default {
>>> type pulse
>>> }
>>>
 The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output plugins.
>>>
>>> That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
>>> the desired output
>>>
> What Desktop do you use?

 Gnome, latest 2.x version

  Is the pulseaudio daemon running?

 Yes!

 tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls

 |-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
| |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
| `-{pulseaudio}(22842)
>>>
>>> Looks OK.
>>>
 I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"
>>>
>>> I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
>>> make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
>>> /etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
>>> before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
>>> works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
>>> files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.
>>>
>> As requested, I moved the pulse folder somewhere else and remerged
>> pulseaudio as well moved /etc/asound.conf somewhere else as well.
>>
>> No sound!
> 
> Weird.
> 
>>> I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
>>> exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
>>> follow this:
>>>
>>> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
>>>
>>> And more specifically:
>>>
>>> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications
>>>
>>> Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
>>> You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
>>> root)
>>>
>>> alsamixer -V all
>>
>> I did, and fired all the bars up. nothing! really nothing!
> 
> Really weird.
> 
>>> and trying to unmute and turn up the volume on everything. When you
>>> hear something with any player, return the asound.conf to /etc and try
>>> again.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>>
>> I have the dumb feeling that one process is blocking the output, I hear
>> in my headphones the white noise of my system, which wouldn't be there
>> if the soundcard hadn't been initialised.
> 
> It's more simple than that: if you see the bars movind in the mixer
> application, some sound should be made.
> 
>> Is there a way to find out which applications might make use of the
>> soundcard right now?!
> 
> Probably with strace or a similar tool; however, let me see first if
> I'm understanding the problem. This is a laptop?

A usual tower machine! Core2 DUO, nothing's special!

 If so, the sound
> works without headphones? The internal speakers work?

with the headphones all the time

There are no internal speakers (not a notebook)
> 
> Also, can you please post the output of "pactl list"?
Yes of course, here it is:

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=wDgy3x64
> 
> Regards.

thanks


Tamer

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés  wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
>> Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
 Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  
> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I have configured pulseaudio according
>>
>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio
>>
>>
>> but I simply have no sound.
>>
>> The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
>> are jumping if I playback a music track.
>>
>> alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
>> gst-plugins-pulse
>>
>> are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
>> sound output at my headphones.
>>
>> PS: the headphones are ok.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?

 ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.

 I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:


 pcm.pulse {
    type pulse
 }

 ctl.pulse {
    type pulse
 }

 for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!
>>>
>>> Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
>>> then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
>>> "all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:
>>>
>>> pcm.!default {
>>>     type pulse
>>> }
>>>
>>> ctl.!default {
>>>     type pulse
>>> }
>>>
 The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output plugins.
>>>
>>> That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
>>> the desired output
>>>
> What Desktop do you use?

 Gnome, latest 2.x version

  Is the pulseaudio daemon running?

 Yes!

 tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls

 |-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
        |                         |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
        |                         `-{pulseaudio}(22842)
>>>
>>> Looks OK.
>>>
 I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"
>>>
>>> I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
>>> make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
>>> /etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
>>> before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
>>> works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
>>> files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.
>>>
>> As requested, I moved the pulse folder somewhere else and remerged
>> pulseaudio as well moved /etc/asound.conf somewhere else as well.
>>
>> No sound!
>
> Weird.
>
>>> I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
>>> exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
>>> follow this:
>>>
>>> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
>>>
>>> And more specifically:
>>>
>>> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME
>>>
>>> and
>>>
>>> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications
>>>
>>> Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
>>> You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
>>> root)
>>>
>>> alsamixer -V all
>>
>> I did, and fired all the bars up. nothing! really nothing!

Also, in alsamixer not only set the bars up: make sure the control is
not muted (it has an "M" at the bottom if muted). You can mute/unmute
pressing the letter 'm'.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
> Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
>>> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
 On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  
 wrote:
> Hi!
> I have configured pulseaudio according
>
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio
>
>
> but I simply have no sound.
>
> The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
> are jumping if I playback a music track.
>
> alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
> gst-plugins-pulse
>
> are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
> sound output at my headphones.
>
> PS: the headphones are ok.
>
> Any suggestions?

 What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
>>>
>>> ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
>>>
>>> I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
>>>
>>>
>>> pcm.pulse {
>>>    type pulse
>>> }
>>>
>>> ctl.pulse {
>>>    type pulse
>>> }
>>>
>>> for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!
>>
>> Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
>> then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
>> "all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:
>>
>> pcm.!default {
>>     type pulse
>> }
>>
>> ctl.!default {
>>     type pulse
>> }
>>
>>> The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output plugins.
>>
>> That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
>> the desired output
>>
 What Desktop do you use?
>>>
>>> Gnome, latest 2.x version
>>>
>>>  Is the pulseaudio daemon running?
>>>
>>> Yes!
>>>
>>> tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls
>>>
>>> |-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
>>>        |                         |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
>>>        |                         `-{pulseaudio}(22842)
>>
>> Looks OK.
>>
>>> I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"
>>
>> I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
>> make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
>> /etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
>> before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
>> works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
>> files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.
>>
> As requested, I moved the pulse folder somewhere else and remerged
> pulseaudio as well moved /etc/asound.conf somewhere else as well.
>
> No sound!

Weird.

>> I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
>> exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
>> follow this:
>>
>> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
>>
>> And more specifically:
>>
>> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME
>>
>> and
>>
>> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications
>>
>> Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
>> You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
>> root)
>>
>> alsamixer -V all
>
> I did, and fired all the bars up. nothing! really nothing!

Really weird.

>> and trying to unmute and turn up the volume on everything. When you
>> hear something with any player, return the asound.conf to /etc and try
>> again.
>>
>> Regards.
>
> I have the dumb feeling that one process is blocking the output, I hear
> in my headphones the white noise of my system, which wouldn't be there
> if the soundcard hadn't been initialised.

It's more simple than that: if you see the bars movind in the mixer
application, some sound should be made.

> Is there a way to find out which applications might make use of the
> soundcard right now?!

Probably with strace or a similar tool; however, let me see first if
I'm understanding the problem. This is a laptop? If so, the sound
works without headphones? The internal speakers work?

Also, can you please post the output of "pactl list"?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Tamer Higazi]

Am 29.09.2011 00:03, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
>> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
 Hi!
 I have configured pulseaudio according

 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio


 but I simply have no sound.

 The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
 are jumping if I playback a music track.

 alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
 gst-plugins-pulse

 are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
 sound output at my headphones.

 PS: the headphones are ok.

 Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
>>
>> ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
>>
>> I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
>>
>>
>> pcm.pulse {
>>type pulse
>> }
>>
>> ctl.pulse {
>>type pulse
>> }
>>
>> for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!
> 
> Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
> then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
> "all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:
> 
> pcm.!default {
> type pulse
> }
> 
> ctl.!default {
> type pulse
> }
> 
>> The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output plugins.
> 
> That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
> the desired output
> 
>>> What Desktop do you use?
>>
>> Gnome, latest 2.x version
>>
>>  Is the pulseaudio daemon running?
>>
>> Yes!
>>
>> tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls
>>
>> |-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
>>| |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
>>| `-{pulseaudio}(22842)
> 
> Looks OK.
> 
>> I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"
> 
> I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
> make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
> /etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
> before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
> works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
> files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.
> 
As requested, I moved the pulse folder somewhere else and remerged
pulseaudio as well moved /etc/asound.conf somewhere else as well.

No sound!


> I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
> exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
> follow this:
> 
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup
> 
> And more specifically:
> 
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME
> 
> and
> 
> http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications
> 
> Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
> You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
> root)
> 
> alsamixer -V all

I did, and fired all the bars up. nothing! really nothing!

> 
> and trying to unmute and turn up the volume on everything. When you
> hear something with any player, return the asound.conf to /etc and try
> again.
> 
> Regards.

I have the dumb feeling that one process is blocking the output, I hear
in my headphones the white noise of my system, which wouldn't be there
if the soundcard hadn't been initialised.


Is there a way to find out which applications might make use of the
soundcard right now?!


Tamer

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Tamer Higazi]

Am 29.09.2011 00:09, schrieb Mick:
> On Wednesday 28 Sep 2011 22:49:06 Tamer Higazi wrote:
>> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  
> wrote:
 Hi!
 I have configured pulseaudio according

 http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio


 but I simply have no sound.

 The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
 are jumping if I playback a music track.

 alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
 gst-plugins-pulse

 are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
 sound output at my headphones.

 PS: the headphones are ok.

 Any suggestions?
>>>
>>> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
>>
>> ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
>>
>> I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
>>
>>
>> pcm.pulse {
>> type pulse
>> }
>>
>> ctl.pulse {
>> type pulse
>> }
> 
> 
> The link you provided also shows:
> 
> [snip ...]
> 
> pcm.!default {
> type pulse
> }
> ctl.!default {
> type pulse
> }
> 
> 
> Why did you leave these out of your /etc/asound.conf
> 
Because Flash player didn't work in the past. When flash started, it
blocked the output of all other things among.


Tamer

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Mick]

On Wednesday 28 Sep 2011 22:49:06 Tamer Higazi wrote:
> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  
wrote:
> >> Hi!
> >> I have configured pulseaudio according
> >> 
> >> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio
> >> 
> >> 
> >> but I simply have no sound.
> >> 
> >> The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
> >> are jumping if I playback a music track.
> >> 
> >> alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
> >> gst-plugins-pulse
> >> 
> >> are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
> >> sound output at my headphones.
> >> 
> >> PS: the headphones are ok.
> >> 
> >> Any suggestions?
> > 
> > What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
> 
> ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
> 
> I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
> 
> 
> pcm.pulse {
> type pulse
> }
> 
> ctl.pulse {
> type pulse
> }


The link you provided also shows:

[snip ...]

pcm.!default {
type pulse
}
ctl.!default {
type pulse
}


Why did you leave these out of your /etc/asound.conf

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
> Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
>> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
>>> Hi!
>>> I have configured pulseaudio according
>>>
>>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio
>>>
>>>
>>> but I simply have no sound.
>>>
>>> The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
>>> are jumping if I playback a music track.
>>>
>>> alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
>>> gst-plugins-pulse
>>>
>>> are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
>>> sound output at my headphones.
>>>
>>> PS: the headphones are ok.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions?
>>
>> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
>
> ~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.
>
> I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:
>
>
> pcm.pulse {
>    type pulse
> }
>
> ctl.pulse {
>    type pulse
> }
>
> for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!

Mmmh. It's not exactly like that: If you use pcm.pulse and ctl.pulse,
then you need to specify pulse as the virtual ALSA device. If you want
"all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse", you need:

pcm.!default {
type pulse
}

ctl.!default {
type pulse
}

> The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output plugins.

That should work. Did you check in sound settings that pulse is indeed
the desired output

>> What Desktop do you use?
>
> Gnome, latest 2.x version
>
>  Is the pulseaudio daemon running?
>
> Yes!
>
> tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls
>
> |-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
>        |                         |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
>        |                         `-{pulseaudio}(22842)

Looks OK.

> I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"

I wouldn't touch the files on /etc/pulse. I recommend first trying to
make it work with the files included with pulseaudio (backup
/etc/pulse, move the dir out of /etc and emerge again pulseaudio)
before trying anything else. Supposedly, pulseaudio should "just
works". Since the first time I installed it I have never touched the
files in /etc/pulse, except to change the log-level of the daemon.

I'm on GNOME 3, so things are a little different, and I don't remember
exactly the dialogs, but instead of the Gentoo wiki page, I would
follow this:

http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup

And more specifically:

http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GNOME

and

http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup#GStreamerApplications

Also, in really weird cases, the ALSA device gets its volume muted:
You can try to remove (back up first) /etc/asound.conf, and run (as
root)

alsamixer -V all

and trying to unmute and turn up the volume on everything. When you
hear something with any player, return the asound.conf to /etc and try
again.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Tamer Higazi]

Am 28.09.2011 23:28, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés:
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
>> Hi!
>> I have configured pulseaudio according
>>
>> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio
>>
>>
>> but I simply have no sound.
>>
>> The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
>> are jumping if I playback a music track.
>>
>> alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
>> gst-plugins-pulse
>>
>> are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
>> sound output at my headphones.
>>
>> PS: the headphones are ok.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
> 
> What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?

~/.asoundrc doesn't exist.

I have /etc/asound.conf with these entries:


pcm.pulse {
type pulse
}

ctl.pulse {
type pulse
}

for all alsa applications to be redirected to pulse!


The players Rhythmbox, xine all with pulseaudio default output plugins.

> What Desktop do you use?

Gnome, latest 2.x version

 Is the pulseaudio daemon running?

Yes!

tamer@office ~ $ pstree -pu | grep puls

|-pulseaudio(22833,tamer)-+-gconf-helper(22840)---{gconf-helper}(22841)
| |-{pulseaudio}(22839)
| `-{pulseaudio}(22842)


> 
> Regards.

I have added all config files in "/etc/pulse/"

default.pa:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=gU7piwLf

client.conf:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4nwt7Upz

system.pa:
http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=2uhRPEpP

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound with pulseaudio

[Canek Peláez Valdés]

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Tamer Higazi  wrote:
> Hi!
> I have configured pulseaudio according
>
> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/PulseAudio
>
>
> but I simply have no sound.
>
> The pulseaudio playback volume meter shows me signal, and that the bars
> are jumping if I playback a music track.
>
> alsa-plugins (with pulseaudio USE flag)
> gst-plugins-pulse
>
> are installed. But I don't know what is being blocked, that I have no
> sound output at my headphones.
>
> PS: the headphones are ok.
>
> Any suggestions?

What music player are you using? Did you set or modify ~/.asoundrc?
What Desktop do you use? Is the pulseaudio daemon running?

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México

Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound while video capturing with guvcview

[meino . cramer]

Kfir Lavi  [11-05-08 13:28]:
> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:35 PM,  wrote:
> 
> > Kfir Lavi  [11-05-08 11:32]:
> > > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:00 PM,  wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > may be one can help me...
> > > >
> > > > I am using a webcam (lsusb: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1415:2000 Nam Tai
> > > > E&E Products Ltd. or OmniVision Technologies, Inc. Sony Playstation
> > > > Eye) on my window board to capture videos from the crow, which often
> > > > visits me  in summer.
> > > >
> > > > The PS-Eye cam has one (four?) microphones to capture audio and
> > > > delivers up to 60 fps.
> > > >
> > > > The setup was working last summer with video AND audio.
> > > >
> > > > This summer only video is captured. The resulting video file
> > > > seems to contain a "null audio" (no sound samples other than
> > > > zeroes...)
> > > >
> > > > When playing the file with mplayer, this is the output on the terminal
> > > > (the video plays ok beside the fact that there is no sound to hear...)
> > > >
> > > >[aviheader] Video stream found, -vid 0
> > > >[aviheader] Audio stream found, -aid 1
> > > >
> > > >Badly interleaved AVI file detected - switching to -ni mode...
> > > >AVI: No audio stream found -> no sound.
> > > >VIDEO:  [MJPG]  640x480  24bpp  60.094 fps  29695.7 kbps (3625.0
> > > > kbyte/s)
> > > >Clip info:
> > > >Title:
> > > >Software: guvcview-1.4.5
> > > >Comments:  Sun May  8 09:51:35 2011
> > > >
> > > >
> >  ==
> > > >Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
> > > >Selected video codec: [ffmjpeg] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MJPEG)
> > > >
> > > >
> >  ==
> > > >
> > > >
> >  ==
> > > >Opening audio decoder: [pcm] Uncompressed PCM audio decoder
> > > >AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 1 ch, s16le, 705.6 kbit/100.00% (ratio:
> > 88200->88200)
> > > >Selected audio codec: [pcm] afm: pcm (Uncompressed PCM)
> > > >
> > > >
> >  ==
> > > >AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 1ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
> > > >Starting playback...
> > > >Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied.
> > > >VO: [gl2] 640x480 => 640x480 Planar 422P
> > > >[gl2] You have OpenGL >= 1.2 capable drivers, GOOD (16bpp and BGR is
> > > > ok!)
> > > >[gl2] antialiasing off
> > > >[gl2] bilinear linear
> > > >A:  -0.0 V:   1.3 A-V: -1.265 ct: -0.126  77/ 77 14% 88%  0.0% 0 0
> > > >Capturing not enabled (forgot -capture parameter?)
> > > >A:  -0.0 V:  14.8 A-V:-14.844 ct: -1.486 893/893 10% 89%  0.0% 0 0
> > > >
> > > > What can I do/check/test/experiment to get back the audio again?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you very much for any help in advance!
> > > >
> > > > Have a nice sunday!
> > > > Best regards
> > > > mcc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From your output it shows that the sound is not null.
> > > Does your sound works playing other files (alsamixer)?
> > > Can you record now a picture with the webcam and play it with sound
> > after?
> > >
> > > Kfir
> >
> > Hi Kfir,
> >
> > thank you for your reply! :)
> >
> > sorry, English isn't my mothers tongue...
> >
> > When playing other videos there is no problem with the sound.
> >
> > What did you mean with
> >
> >"Can you record now a picture with the webcam and play it with sound
> > after?"
> >
> >
> > mcc
> >
> >
> > You said that this file is a recording of the webcam with sound.
> Can you record again from your webcam and then play the file?
> Does the file you record is the same compression algorithm as the file that
> doesn't work?
> 
> Kfir

The settings (compression algo, audio samplerate and device and such)
are stored in a config file which I didnt't touch.
Currently, when I record  from the webcam I get the effects described
above: Video yes, audio no with mplayer output as given above...

May /I have to change the settings/ for what reason ever?!?

mcc

Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound while video capturing with guvcview

[Kfir Lavi]

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:35 PM,  wrote:

> Kfir Lavi  [11-05-08 11:32]:
> > On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:00 PM,  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > may be one can help me...
> > >
> > > I am using a webcam (lsusb: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1415:2000 Nam Tai
> > > E&E Products Ltd. or OmniVision Technologies, Inc. Sony Playstation
> > > Eye) on my window board to capture videos from the crow, which often
> > > visits me  in summer.
> > >
> > > The PS-Eye cam has one (four?) microphones to capture audio and
> > > delivers up to 60 fps.
> > >
> > > The setup was working last summer with video AND audio.
> > >
> > > This summer only video is captured. The resulting video file
> > > seems to contain a "null audio" (no sound samples other than
> > > zeroes...)
> > >
> > > When playing the file with mplayer, this is the output on the terminal
> > > (the video plays ok beside the fact that there is no sound to hear...)
> > >
> > >[aviheader] Video stream found, -vid 0
> > >[aviheader] Audio stream found, -aid 1
> > >
> > >Badly interleaved AVI file detected - switching to -ni mode...
> > >AVI: No audio stream found -> no sound.
> > >VIDEO:  [MJPG]  640x480  24bpp  60.094 fps  29695.7 kbps (3625.0
> > > kbyte/s)
> > >Clip info:
> > >Title:
> > >Software: guvcview-1.4.5
> > >Comments:  Sun May  8 09:51:35 2011
> > >
> > >
>  ==
> > >Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
> > >Selected video codec: [ffmjpeg] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MJPEG)
> > >
> > >
>  ==
> > >
> > >
>  ==
> > >Opening audio decoder: [pcm] Uncompressed PCM audio decoder
> > >AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 1 ch, s16le, 705.6 kbit/100.00% (ratio:
> 88200->88200)
> > >Selected audio codec: [pcm] afm: pcm (Uncompressed PCM)
> > >
> > >
>  ==
> > >AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 1ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
> > >Starting playback...
> > >Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied.
> > >VO: [gl2] 640x480 => 640x480 Planar 422P
> > >[gl2] You have OpenGL >= 1.2 capable drivers, GOOD (16bpp and BGR is
> > > ok!)
> > >[gl2] antialiasing off
> > >[gl2] bilinear linear
> > >A:  -0.0 V:   1.3 A-V: -1.265 ct: -0.126  77/ 77 14% 88%  0.0% 0 0
> > >Capturing not enabled (forgot -capture parameter?)
> > >A:  -0.0 V:  14.8 A-V:-14.844 ct: -1.486 893/893 10% 89%  0.0% 0 0
> > >
> > > What can I do/check/test/experiment to get back the audio again?
> > >
> > > Thank you very much for any help in advance!
> > >
> > > Have a nice sunday!
> > > Best regards
> > > mcc
> > >
> > >
> > > From your output it shows that the sound is not null.
> > Does your sound works playing other files (alsamixer)?
> > Can you record now a picture with the webcam and play it with sound
> after?
> >
> > Kfir
>
> Hi Kfir,
>
> thank you for your reply! :)
>
> sorry, English isn't my mothers tongue...
>
> When playing other videos there is no problem with the sound.
>
> What did you mean with
>
>"Can you record now a picture with the webcam and play it with sound
> after?"
>
>
> mcc
>
>
> You said that this file is a recording of the webcam with sound.
Can you record again from your webcam and then play the file?
Does the file you record is the same compression algorithm as the file that
doesn't work?

Kfir

Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound while video capturing with guvcview

[meino . cramer]

Kfir Lavi  [11-05-08 11:32]:
> On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:00 PM,  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > may be one can help me...
> >
> > I am using a webcam (lsusb: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1415:2000 Nam Tai
> > E&E Products Ltd. or OmniVision Technologies, Inc. Sony Playstation
> > Eye) on my window board to capture videos from the crow, which often
> > visits me  in summer.
> >
> > The PS-Eye cam has one (four?) microphones to capture audio and
> > delivers up to 60 fps.
> >
> > The setup was working last summer with video AND audio.
> >
> > This summer only video is captured. The resulting video file
> > seems to contain a "null audio" (no sound samples other than
> > zeroes...)
> >
> > When playing the file with mplayer, this is the output on the terminal
> > (the video plays ok beside the fact that there is no sound to hear...)
> >
> >[aviheader] Video stream found, -vid 0
> >[aviheader] Audio stream found, -aid 1
> >
> >Badly interleaved AVI file detected - switching to -ni mode...
> >AVI: No audio stream found -> no sound.
> >VIDEO:  [MJPG]  640x480  24bpp  60.094 fps  29695.7 kbps (3625.0
> > kbyte/s)
> >Clip info:
> >Title:
> >Software: guvcview-1.4.5
> >Comments:  Sun May  8 09:51:35 2011
> >
> >  ==
> >Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
> >Selected video codec: [ffmjpeg] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MJPEG)
> >
> >  ==
> >
> >  ==
> >Opening audio decoder: [pcm] Uncompressed PCM audio decoder
> >AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 1 ch, s16le, 705.6 kbit/100.00% (ratio: 88200->88200)
> >Selected audio codec: [pcm] afm: pcm (Uncompressed PCM)
> >
> >  ==
> >AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 1ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
> >Starting playback...
> >Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied.
> >VO: [gl2] 640x480 => 640x480 Planar 422P
> >[gl2] You have OpenGL >= 1.2 capable drivers, GOOD (16bpp and BGR is
> > ok!)
> >[gl2] antialiasing off
> >[gl2] bilinear linear
> >A:  -0.0 V:   1.3 A-V: -1.265 ct: -0.126  77/ 77 14% 88%  0.0% 0 0
> >Capturing not enabled (forgot -capture parameter?)
> >A:  -0.0 V:  14.8 A-V:-14.844 ct: -1.486 893/893 10% 89%  0.0% 0 0
> >
> > What can I do/check/test/experiment to get back the audio again?
> >
> > Thank you very much for any help in advance!
> >
> > Have a nice sunday!
> > Best regards
> > mcc
> >
> >
> > From your output it shows that the sound is not null.
> Does your sound works playing other files (alsamixer)?
> Can you record now a picture with the webcam and play it with sound after?
> 
> Kfir

Hi Kfir,

thank you for your reply! :)

sorry, English isn't my mothers tongue...

When playing other videos there is no problem with the sound.

What did you mean with 

"Can you record now a picture with the webcam and play it with sound after?"


mcc

Re: [gentoo-user] No Sound while video capturing with guvcview

[Kfir Lavi]

On Sun, May 8, 2011 at 12:00 PM,  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> may be one can help me...
>
> I am using a webcam (lsusb: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 1415:2000 Nam Tai
> E&E Products Ltd. or OmniVision Technologies, Inc. Sony Playstation
> Eye) on my window board to capture videos from the crow, which often
> visits me  in summer.
>
> The PS-Eye cam has one (four?) microphones to capture audio and
> delivers up to 60 fps.
>
> The setup was working last summer with video AND audio.
>
> This summer only video is captured. The resulting video file
> seems to contain a "null audio" (no sound samples other than
> zeroes...)
>
> When playing the file with mplayer, this is the output on the terminal
> (the video plays ok beside the fact that there is no sound to hear...)
>
>[aviheader] Video stream found, -vid 0
>[aviheader] Audio stream found, -aid 1
>
>Badly interleaved AVI file detected - switching to -ni mode...
>AVI: No audio stream found -> no sound.
>VIDEO:  [MJPG]  640x480  24bpp  60.094 fps  29695.7 kbps (3625.0
> kbyte/s)
>Clip info:
>Title:
>Software: guvcview-1.4.5
>Comments:  Sun May  8 09:51:35 2011
>
>  ==
>Opening video decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg's libavcodec codec family
>Selected video codec: [ffmjpeg] vfm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MJPEG)
>
>  ==
>
>  ==
>Opening audio decoder: [pcm] Uncompressed PCM audio decoder
>AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 1 ch, s16le, 705.6 kbit/100.00% (ratio: 88200->88200)
>Selected audio codec: [pcm] afm: pcm (Uncompressed PCM)
>
>  ==
>AO: [alsa] 48000Hz 1ch s16le (2 bytes per sample)
>Starting playback...
>Movie-Aspect is undefined - no prescaling applied.
>VO: [gl2] 640x480 => 640x480 Planar 422P
>[gl2] You have OpenGL >= 1.2 capable drivers, GOOD (16bpp and BGR is
> ok!)
>[gl2] antialiasing off
>[gl2] bilinear linear
>A:  -0.0 V:   1.3 A-V: -1.265 ct: -0.126  77/ 77 14% 88%  0.0% 0 0
>Capturing not enabled (forgot -capture parameter?)
>A:  -0.0 V:  14.8 A-V:-14.844 ct: -1.486 893/893 10% 89%  0.0% 0 0
>
> What can I do/check/test/experiment to get back the audio again?
>
> Thank you very much for any help in advance!
>
> Have a nice sunday!
> Best regards
> mcc
>
>
> From your output it shows that the sound is not null.
Does your sound works playing other files (alsamixer)?
Can you record now a picture with the webcam and play it with sound after?

Kfir

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound after suspend to ram + resume...

[Marcus Wanner]

On 11/26/2009 5:02 AM, daid kahl wrote:

After suspending to ram (using hibernate-ram) and resuming, sound no longer
 works. I checked out dmesg, and it says that (among other things):
  


  

Check the various hybernation/acpi config files.  There should be the option
somewhere in there to stop alsasound when it hybernates and start it again on
resume.



My wisdom agrees with this.  90% of problems I've had getting
hibernate-ram to function correctly is all in the
/etc/hibernate/common.conf file.  Please check these options very
well.  For different kernel builds or X configurations, the best
settings can easily change.

If you recently updated the kernel, then please reboot once again, as
the alsa configurations can change slightly, and it will try to
auto-convert old alsa settings.  Also please run alsaconf as well to
make sure the settings are correct.
  
Thanks, as I said, the problem I have now is that programs that play 
sound (mplayer, Firefox sometimes) don't survive suspend-resume. 
Actually, they survive, it's just that FF tends to lock up when watching 
youtube-style videos. Sound is broken during suspend-resume, and can 
only be fixed by closing all programs using the sound drivers, then 
unloading and reloading the sound driver module. Unfortunately, the 
panel volume changer applet (for LXDE, I'm using hardware from 2000, 
remember...) is one of those programs (it took me a solid 3 hours to 
figure that one out), so I no longer run that applet.


I am happy with my current suspend-resume setup, and can say that gentoo 
is the only distro that successfully suspend/hibernates when using the 
proprietary nvidia drivers, and the only one that runs with little 
enough latency for me* (preemptable kernel ftw!). Thanks guys.


Marcus


*The box says "Designed for Windows Me on the side"...it ran XP until I 
got ahold of it *evil smile*

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound after suspend to ram + resume...

[Marcus Wanner]

On 11/26/2009 2:21 AM, Mick wrote:
I guess you may need to moprobe -r  before you hibernate and see if 
that works?
  
Yes, but only if not programs are using the module. Now, I have a script 
which shuts down alsasound, unloads and reloads the module, and then 
starts alsasound. However, it only works when no programs are trying to 
use the sound driver. Any programs using the sound driver when I suspend 
the system tend to crash when resumed, and the fixsound script only 
works if no such programs are open. Everything else works fine after 
suspend/resume, even the proprietary nvidia drivers. Thanks!

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound after suspend to ram + resume...

[daid kahl]

>> After suspending to ram (using hibernate-ram) and resuming, sound no longer
>>  works. I checked out dmesg, and it says that (among other things):

> Check the various hybernation/acpi config files.  There should be the option
> somewhere in there to stop alsasound when it hybernates and start it again on
> resume.

My wisdom agrees with this.  90% of problems I've had getting
hibernate-ram to function correctly is all in the
/etc/hibernate/common.conf file.  Please check these options very
well.  For different kernel builds or X configurations, the best
settings can easily change.

If you recently updated the kernel, then please reboot once again, as
the alsa configurations can change slightly, and it will try to
auto-convert old alsa settings.  Also please run alsaconf as well to
make sure the settings are correct.

~daid

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound after suspend to ram + resume...

[Mick]

On Thursday 26 November 2009 00:46:48 Marcus Wanner wrote:
> On 11/25/2009 5:10 PM, Mick wrote:
> > On Wednesday 25 November 2009 19:29:43 Marcus Wanner wrote:
> >> I just set up suspend to ram on my old Dell Dimension 8200. It has a
> >> "Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24/30 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio
> >> Accelerator]" sound card which uses the snd_cs46xx kernel driver. After
> >> suspending to ram (using hibernate-ram) and resuming, sound no longer
> >>  works. I checked out dmesg, and it says that (among other things):
> >>
> >> during suspend:
> >> [  354.947535] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: PCI INT A disabled
> >> during resume:
> >> [  355.029211] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
> >> at offset 0xf (was 0x18040100, writing 0x18040103)
> >> [  355.029231] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
> >> at offset 0x5 (was 0x0, writing 0xfe10)
> >> [  355.029239] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
> >> at offset 0x4 (was 0x0, writing 0xfe2ff000)
> >> [  355.029246] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
> >> at offset 0x3 (was 0x0, writing 0x4000)
> >> [  355.029256] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
> >> at offset 0x1 (was 0x410, writing 0x4100102)
> >> [  355.128883] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16
> >> (level, low) -> IRQ 16
> >> this is the interesting bit:
> >> [  365.672980] cs46xx: failure waiting for FIFO command to complete
> >>
> >> I searched the web, but found nothing relevant. Any help would be very
> >> much appreciated.
> >
> > Check the various hybernation/acpi config files.  There should be the
> > option somewhere in there to stop alsasound when it hybernates and start
> > it again on resume.
> 
> That doesn't work, thanks for the suggestion though. I even tried
> running "/etc/init.d/alsasound stop" from a terminal, and sound kept
> playing. I added "RestartServices alsasound" to common.conf, and suspend
> + resumed. Going down, audio continued until the screen went black, then
> it "jittered" until the computer actually turned off (1/2 second later).
> When I pressed the power button to resume, I heard a pop, but nothing
> else. I think I need to actually restart the drivers and the hardware
> after resuming...and ideas?

I guess you may need to moprobe -r  before you hibernate and see if 
that works?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] No sound after suspend to ram + resume...

[Marcus Wanner]

On 11/25/2009 5:10 PM, Mick wrote:

On Wednesday 25 November 2009 19:29:43 Marcus Wanner wrote:
  

I just set up suspend to ram on my old Dell Dimension 8200. It has a
"Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24/30 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio
Accelerator]" sound card which uses the snd_cs46xx kernel driver. After
suspending to ram (using hibernate-ram) and resuming, sound no longer
 works. I checked out dmesg, and it says that (among other things):

during suspend:
[  354.947535] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: PCI INT A disabled
during resume:
[  355.029211] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
at offset 0xf (was 0x18040100, writing 0x18040103)
[  355.029231] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
at offset 0x5 (was 0x0, writing 0xfe10)
[  355.029239] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
at offset 0x4 (was 0x0, writing 0xfe2ff000)
[  355.029246] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
at offset 0x3 (was 0x0, writing 0x4000)
[  355.029256] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
at offset 0x1 (was 0x410, writing 0x4100102)
[  355.128883] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16
(level, low) -> IRQ 16
this is the interesting bit:
[  365.672980] cs46xx: failure waiting for FIFO command to complete

I searched the web, but found nothing relevant. Any help would be very
much appreciated.



Check the various hybernation/acpi config files.  There should be the option 
somewhere in there to stop alsasound when it hybernates and start it again on 
resume.
  
That doesn't work, thanks for the suggestion though. I even tried 
running "/etc/init.d/alsasound stop" from a terminal, and sound kept 
playing. I added "RestartServices alsasound" to common.conf, and suspend 
+ resumed. Going down, audio continued until the screen went black, then 
it "jittered" until the computer actually turned off (1/2 second later). 
When I pressed the power button to resume, I heard a pop, but nothing 
else. I think I need to actually restart the drivers and the hardware 
after resuming...and ideas?


Marcus

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound after suspend to ram + resume...

[Mick]

On Wednesday 25 November 2009 19:29:43 Marcus Wanner wrote:
> I just set up suspend to ram on my old Dell Dimension 8200. It has a
> "Cirrus Logic CS 4614/22/24/30 [CrystalClear SoundFusion Audio
> Accelerator]" sound card which uses the snd_cs46xx kernel driver. After
> suspending to ram (using hibernate-ram) and resuming, sound no longer
>  works. I checked out dmesg, and it says that (among other things):
> 
> during suspend:
> [  354.947535] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: PCI INT A disabled
> during resume:
> [  355.029211] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
> at offset 0xf (was 0x18040100, writing 0x18040103)
> [  355.029231] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
> at offset 0x5 (was 0x0, writing 0xfe10)
> [  355.029239] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
> at offset 0x4 (was 0x0, writing 0xfe2ff000)
> [  355.029246] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
> at offset 0x3 (was 0x0, writing 0x4000)
> [  355.029256] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: restoring config space
> at offset 0x1 (was 0x410, writing 0x4100102)
> [  355.128883] Sound Fusion CS46xx :02:07.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16
> (level, low) -> IRQ 16
> this is the interesting bit:
> [  365.672980] cs46xx: failure waiting for FIFO command to complete
> 
> I searched the web, but found nothing relevant. Any help would be very
> much appreciated.

Check the various hybernation/acpi config files.  There should be the option 
somewhere in there to stop alsasound when it hybernates and start it again on 
resume.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] No sound with Intel HDA card in Gateway m6888u laptop (2.6.30-r4, amd64)

[John H. Moe]

Jesse Taylor wrote:
> Hello --
>
> I've been trying to get my sound working for nearly a month now with
> no luck.
>
> * I've followed the Gentoo ALSA Guide *several times*, and it's not
> working for me.
>
> * I've already unmuted my card in alsamixer and raised the volume to
> 100%
>
> * There is no sound that is coming from any of the following:
>-- mplayer (movies or mp3's)
>-- speaker-test
>-- flash movies in Firefox
>-- etc ... i.e. NOTHING gives me any sound
>
> * But when I try to play sound in any of the above mentioned programs,
> I get no errors (i.e. they seem to think that my sound *is* working.
>
> * I've checked to make sure that the volume isn't muted via the
> keyboard, and that the volume is at 100% there too.
>
> * There are no errors that are popping up in /var/log/messages or /var/
> log/dmesg when I do '/etc/init.d/alsasound restart' nor when I
> manually rmmod/modprobe the sound modules
>
> * The hardware is not damaged/broken -- it works fine from Windows
>
> * I've tried to disable ati-hdmi in the kernel and it doesn't make a
> difference (it's currently enabled, but unused according to lspci -k)
> and according to http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ the ATI HDMI card should
> be using snd-hda-intel (as it currently is) anyway
>
> * I've tried telling alsaconf to use the Intel HDA card, and the ATI
> HDMI card -- neither of these work.
>
> * I started a thread on Gentoo Forums regarding this problem () and
> someone said:  HD Audio often needs a model option passed to it
> based on the codec see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/
> sound/alsa/HD-
> Audio-Models.txt to see what the model should be.  ... But
> looking through that file, I could not determine which option I should
> use (if this is even a solution, anyway) for my card. Google was no
> help here.  (note that the Intel HDA card uses the SigmaTel ID 76a0
> codec)
>
> Is there any additional information I can provide (besides what I just
> mentioned, and the stuff below) to help diagnose this? Anything else I
> should try? Any help would be *very* much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Jesse Taylor
>
> P.S.
>
> Here's some info on the current state of things:
>
> #
> # cat /proc/asound/cards
> #
>  0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
>  HDA Intel at 0xf330 irq 22
>  1 [HDMI   ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI HDMI
>  HDA ATI HDMI at 0xf301 irq 17
>
> 
> #lspci -k
> 
> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
> Controller (rev 04)
>Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
>Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
> 01:00.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc RV630/M76 audio device
> [Radeon HD 2600 Series]
>Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
>Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel
>
> ##
> # cat /proc/asound/devices
> ##
> 0: [ 0]   : control
>  1:: sequencer
>  16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback
>  24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture
>  32: [ 1]   : control
>  33:: timer
>
> 
> # codecs  (note that there are two codecs for card0 (is this normal?))
> 
>
> # the intel card
> localhost ~ # cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#0
> Codec: SigmaTel ID 76a0
> Address: 0
> Function Id: 0x1
> Vendor Id: 0x838476a0
> Subsystem Id: 0x107b0562
> Revision Id: 0x100204
>
> #the intel card again
> localhost ~ # cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#1
> Codec: Conexant ID 2c06
> Address: 1
> Function Id: 0x2
> Vendor Id: 0x14f12c06
> Subsystem Id: 0x14f1
> Revision Id: 0x10
> Modem Function Group: 0x2
>
> # the ATI HDMI card
> localhost ~ # cat /proc/asound/card1/codec#0
> Codec: ATI ID aa01
> Address: 0
> Function Id: 0x1
> Vendor Id: 0x1002aa01
> Subsystem Id: 0x00aa0100
> Revision Id: 0x10
> No Modem Function Group found
>
>
> 
> # lsmod
> 
> snd_seq_oss31392  0
> snd_seq_midi_event  7208  1 snd_seq_oss
> snd_seq56672  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
> snd_seq_device  7164  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
> snd_pcm_oss41184  0
> snd_mixer_oss  16904  1 snd_pcm_oss
> snd_hrtimer 2840  0
> snd_hda_codec_atihdmi 3944  1
> snd_hda_intel  28296  0
> snd_hda_codec  66152  2 snd_hda_codec_atihdmi,snd_hda_intel
> snd_pcm74640  3
> snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec
> snd_timer  22264  3 snd_seq,snd_hrtimer,snd_pcm
> snd65256  9
> snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
> snd_page_alloc  9496  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
>
>
> #
> # Kernel config
> #
>
> CONFIG_SND=m
> CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
> CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
> CONFIG_SND_JACK=y
> CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
> CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
> CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
> CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
> CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS_PLUGINS=y
> CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y
> CONFIG_SND_HRTIMER=m
> CO

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound with Intel HDA card in Gateway m6888u laptop (2.6.30-r4, amd64)

[Dale]

Stroller wrote:
>
> On 17 Sep 2009, at 08:12, Jesse Taylor wrote:
>>  Anything else I should try? Any help would be *very* much
>> appreciated.
>
> You may get more helpful advice than this, but in case you don't
> try booting from a Knoppix or Ubuntu LiveCD. If the sound works in
> that then you can try copying the relevant config files on your Gentoo
> system. If it doesn't, then it hasn't taken you long to try.
>
> Stroller.
>  

He can also boot the CD, then if it works run lspci -k and see what
drivers it uses for sound.  Then, he can go into menuconfig and enable
the same drivers.

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound with Intel HDA card in Gateway m6888u laptop (2.6.30-r4, amd64)

[Stroller]

On 17 Sep 2009, at 08:12, Jesse Taylor wrote:
 Anything else I should try? Any help would be *very* much  
appreciated.


You may get more helpful advice than this, but in case you don't  
try booting from a Knoppix or Ubuntu LiveCD. If the sound works in  
that then you can try copying the relevant config files on your Gentoo  
system. If it doesn't, then it hasn't taken you long to try.


Stroller.
 

Re: [gentoo-user] No sound with Intel HDA card in Gateway m6888u laptop (2.6.30-r4, amd64)

[Helmut Jarausch]

On 17 Sep, Jesse Taylor wrote:
> Hello --
> 
> I've been trying to get my sound working for nearly a month now with
> no luck.

> #
> # Kernel config
> #
> 
> CONFIG_SND=m
> CONFIG_SND_TIMER=m
> CONFIG_SND_PCM=m
> CONFIG_SND_JACK=y
> CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER=m
> CONFIG_SND_OSSEMUL=y
> CONFIG_SND_MIXER_OSS=m
> CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS=m
> CONFIG_SND_PCM_OSS_PLUGINS=y
> CONFIG_SND_SEQUENCER_OSS=y
> CONFIG_SND_HRTIMER=m
> CONFIG_SND_SEQ_HRTIMER_DEFAULT=y
> CONFIG_SND_SUPPORT_OLD_API=y
> CONFIG_SND_VMASTER=y
> CONFIG_SND_PCI=y
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_INTEL=m
> # CONFIG_SND_HDA_HWDEP is not set
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_INPUT_BEEP=y
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_ATIHDMI=y
> # CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_INTELHDMI is not set
> CONFIG_SND_HDA_GENERIC=y
> # CONFIG_SND_HDA_POWER_SAVE is not set
> 

Try to add CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK=y
(Build Realtek HD-audio codec support)

It's working here since kernel 2.6.30 and recent alsa-lib
(>=media-libs/alsa-lib-1.0.21)

Try to set everything in alsamixer to (100 %)

Helmut.

-- 
Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound

[Andrey Vul]

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 4:36 PM, Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I open mplayer, mpg321, vlc, or flash (youtube) and I have no sound.
>> ALSA is working.
>> Hardware is working.
>> Already did alsaconf + alsamixer.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>
> To be really sure ALSA is working, I suggest you try aplay. Notice
> that aplay is minimalistic, and does not support formats like vorbis
> (AFAIK). Feed a wav to it. Example:
> aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav
> Both aplay and /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav come from
> media-sound/alsa-utils
>

Oh.
SPDIF output (IEC958) was unmuted and all the output got routed there.
Muted SPDIF and everything works now.



-- 
Andrey Vul

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound

[Jorge Peixoto de Morais Neto]

> I open mplayer, mpg321, vlc, or flash (youtube) and I have no sound.
> ALSA is working.
> Hardware is working.
> Already did alsaconf + alsamixer.
>
> Any suggestions?

To be really sure ALSA is working, I suggest you try aplay. Notice
that aplay is minimalistic, and does not support formats like vorbis
(AFAIK). Feed a wav to it. Example:
aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav
Both aplay and /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Right.wav come from
media-sound/alsa-utils

You have a lot of verbosity with aplay -v

Also notice that many mixer controls have not only a volume bar, but
also a  setting of muted or unmuted. A mixer control may show its bar
at 100% but be muted, which could be confusing if you are not familiar
with alsamixer. In my case least, the relevant mixer controls for a
wav file are "Master" and "PCM". Both are stereo, both have volume
bars, but only "PCM" has a mute/unmute setting.
I don't know if this is your case, this wasn't clear from your
screenshot. Can you get a png screenshot and send directly to my
email?. Of course, it would be better if the alsamixer screen was
maximized when you take the screenshot.

Also, to test with another OS could be useful. Do you have any LiveCD?
-- 
Software is like sex: it is better when it is free - Linus Torvalds

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound

[Andrey Vul]

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Nickolay Hodyunya <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:07:14AM -0400, Andrey Vul wrote:
>> I open mplayer, mpg321, vlc, or flash (youtube) and I have no sound.
>> ALSA is working.
>> Hardware is working.
>> Already did alsaconf + alsamixer.
>>
>> Any suggestions?
> did you forget to connect your headphones?
It's not headphones, it's a 5.1 system and all the connections are
seated tightly. And it's *on*.


-- 
Andrey Vul

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

Re: [gentoo-user] no sound

[Nickolay Hodyunya]

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 03:07:14AM -0400, Andrey Vul wrote:
> I open mplayer, mpg321, vlc, or flash (youtube) and I have no sound.
> ALSA is working.
> Hardware is working.
> Already did alsaconf + alsamixer.
> 
> Any suggestions?
did you forget to connect your headphones? 

-- 
Regards, Nickolay Hodyunya.