Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies

John Dangler wrote:

I just finished the base install of the 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6).  When I
run emerge -sync, and then emerge -uDvp system, I get a short list updates
that portage wants to emerge, but there aren't any kernel updates.  However,
if I run emerge -uDvp world, there is a new version of the gentoo-sources
(2.6.12-r9).  Why wouldn't kernel updates be included in a system emerge?


The packages in your system come from
/etc/make.profile/packages
(Note: do *not* edit this file)

The packages considered for world are the ones from system plus the ones 
in /var/lib/portage/world
The world file is where portage records the packages you emerged, e.g. 
when you typed emerge gentoo-sources it recorded it there.


I suppose the reason the kernel is not in the system file is that this 
file is a kind of 'factory-defaults', which you shouldn't be normally 
changing. But there is more than just one kernel source tarball avilable 
in portage, e.g. gentoo-sources, vanilla-sources and some more. Putting 
this in the system file would unnecessarily constrain your choice as to 
which kernel to run.


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Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies

you might also want to try
man emerge

most commands on your system will have a manpage, and they will probably 
 give you helpful hints as to how they function. you can also do it 
with any other command:


man ls
man gcc
man ldd
man man
...

Hope that helps,
Marco

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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
That makes some sense. (Gentoo is all about choices)
So, basically, I emerge the new 'slot' and then re-compile the new kernel
version according to the handbook, giving me both the existing kernel
version and the new version...

John D


-Original Message-
From: Marco Matthies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 10:02 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler wrote:
> I just finished the base install of the 2005.1 system (2.6.12-r6).  When I
> run emerge -sync, and then emerge -uDvp system, I get a short list updates
> that portage wants to emerge, but there aren't any kernel updates.
However,
> if I run emerge -uDvp world, there is a new version of the gentoo-sources
> (2.6.12-r9).  Why wouldn't kernel updates be included in a system emerge?

The packages in your system come from
/etc/make.profile/packages
(Note: do *not* edit this file)

The packages considered for world are the ones from system plus the ones 
in /var/lib/portage/world
The world file is where portage records the packages you emerged, e.g. 
when you typed emerge gentoo-sources it recorded it there.

I suppose the reason the kernel is not in the system file is that this 
file is a kind of 'factory-defaults', which you shouldn't be normally 
changing. But there is more than just one kernel source tarball avilable 
in portage, e.g. gentoo-sources, vanilla-sources and some more. Putting 
this in the system file would unnecessarily constrain your choice as to 
which kernel to run.

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Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-08-19 Thread Marco Matthies

John Dangler wrote:

That makes some sense. (Gentoo is all about choices)
So, basically, I emerge the new 'slot' and then re-compile the new kernel
version according to the handbook, giving me both the existing kernel
version and the new version...
Exactly, installing the new kernel sources does not automatically clean 
out the old ones. After you've compiled the new kernel and copied it to 
/boot, you can then add another entry to grub.conf so you can choose 
between the two kernels when booting.


Hint:
If you're happy with your old kernel config, copy it over from your old 
kernel dir (or from /boot if you've saved it there) to your new kernel 
directory. you can then run 'make oldconfig' which will only prompt you 
for new configuration options that have been added between the releases 
so you don't have to select everything again by hand.


One further note about cleaning out old kernels: running make 
modules_install  will install the kernel modules to a subdirectory in 
/lib/modules/. Once you're not *using* an old kernel anymore, you can 
remove the subdirectory specific to that kernel from there.
emerge -C "=some-kernel-version" will only remove the kernel sources 
from /usr/src


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Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread Holly Bostick
John Dangler schreef:
> I'm trying to get a definitive answer to this - when I want to install a new
> kernel, I know that there are certain packages that will not come back, and
> need to be re-emerged on the new kernel.  Is there a way to setup a list of
> these based on what I have installed on my current Gentoo kernel to make
> emerge world easier?
> 
> Thanks for the input.
> 
> JD
> 

There is, in fact, now a tool to do this;

eix module-rebuild
* sys-kernel/module-rebuild
 Available versions:  0.1 0.5
 Installed:   0.5
 Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/
 Description: A utility to rebuild any kernel modules which
you have installed.


Found 1 matches

HTH,
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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread John Dangler
Holly~
Thanks for the reply.  I found the package on portage, but couldn't locate
any docs for how to use it... I'm googling for it atm, but if you can point
me towards any docs on this I'd really appreciate it.  I've been waiting for
something like this for a while.

Regards,

JD


-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 1:52 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler schreef:
> I'm trying to get a definitive answer to this - when I want to install a
new
> kernel, I know that there are certain packages that will not come back,
and
> need to be re-emerged on the new kernel.  Is there a way to setup a list
of
> these based on what I have installed on my current Gentoo kernel to make
> emerge world easier?
> 
> Thanks for the input.
> 
> JD
> 

There is, in fact, now a tool to do this;

eix module-rebuild
* sys-kernel/module-rebuild
 Available versions:  0.1 0.5
 Installed:   0.5
 Homepage:http://www.gentoo.org/
 Description: A utility to rebuild any kernel modules which
you have installed.


Found 1 matches

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread Holly Bostick
John Dangler schreef:
> 
>> John Dangler schreef:
> Holly Bostick schreef:
> 
>> I'm trying to get a definitive answer to this - when I want to
>> install a new kernel, I know that there are certain packages that
>> will not come back, Is there a way to setup a list of these based
>> on what I have installed on my current Gentoo kernel to make emerge
>> world easier?
> 
> There is, in fact, now a tool to do this;
> 
> eix module-rebuild * sys-kernel/module-rebuild Available versions:
> 0.1 0.5 Installed:   0.5 Homepage:
> http://www.gentoo.org/ Description: A utility to rebuild any
> kernel modules which you have installed.
> 
> Thanks for the reply.  I found the package on portage, but couldn't
> locate any docs for how to use it... I'm googling for it atm, but if
> you can point me towards any docs on this I'd really appreciate it.
> I've been waiting for something like this for a while.
> 
module-rebuild --help
/usr/sbin/module-rebuild: illegal option -- -

Oh, apparently --help is not enabled; but if you run it either with no
options or an 'illegal' option, you get the 'proper usage help', as is
standard for most Linux command-line probrams.

module-rebuild [options] action [category/package]
Version: 0.5

Where options are:
-X   - Emerge based on package names,
   not exact versions.
-C   - Disable all coloured output.

Where action is one of:
add  - Add package to moduledb.
del  - Delete a package from moduledb.
toggle   - Toggle auto-rebuild of Package.
list - List packages to auto-rebuild.
rebuild  - Rebuild packages.
populate - Populate the database with any
   packages which currently install
   drivers into the running kernel.


Do you need more than that? It's a pretty simple module atm.

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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread John Dangler
Holly~

Thanks for the reply.  It seems fairly straightforward.  From reading this,
I would think that running module-rebuild populate would be the first task.
Add/Del package would be for building discriminate versions of a kernel
(presumably for locating problems or just testing out a kernel revision),
list is simply a list of what's been 'populate'd, toggle would have similar
usage as Add/Del, except that it would allow/disallow a package which has
been 'populate'd, and rebuild would be the heart of the reason for this
utility, to rebuild a set of modules into a new kernel.  Assuming I'm at
least somewhat correct in this, my only point of confusion is whether I
compile the new kernel first, then run module-rebuild? Or does running
module-rebuild 'rebuild' allow me to compile the new kernel, link it, and
reboot into it?

Regards,

JD
 

-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 2:35 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler schreef:
> 
>> John Dangler schreef:
> Holly Bostick schreef:
> 
>> I'm trying to get a definitive answer to this - when I want to
>> install a new kernel, I know that there are certain packages that
>> will not come back, Is there a way to setup a list of these based
>> on what I have installed on my current Gentoo kernel to make emerge
>> world easier?
> 
> There is, in fact, now a tool to do this;
> 
> eix module-rebuild * sys-kernel/module-rebuild Available versions:
> 0.1 0.5 Installed:   0.5 Homepage:
> http://www.gentoo.org/ Description: A utility to rebuild any
> kernel modules which you have installed.
> 
> Thanks for the reply.  I found the package on portage, but couldn't
> locate any docs for how to use it... I'm googling for it atm, but if
> you can point me towards any docs on this I'd really appreciate it.
> I've been waiting for something like this for a while.
> 
module-rebuild --help
/usr/sbin/module-rebuild: illegal option -- -

Oh, apparently --help is not enabled; but if you run it either with no
options or an 'illegal' option, you get the 'proper usage help', as is
standard for most Linux command-line probrams.

module-rebuild [options] action [category/package]
Version: 0.5

Where options are:
-X   - Emerge based on package names,
   not exact versions.
-C   - Disable all coloured output.

Where action is one of:
add  - Add package to moduledb.
del  - Delete a package from moduledb.
toggle   - Toggle auto-rebuild of Package.
list - List packages to auto-rebuild.
rebuild  - Rebuild packages.
populate - Populate the database with any
   packages which currently install
   drivers into the running kernel.


Do you need more than that? It's a pretty simple module atm.

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Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread Roy Wright

John Dangler wrote:


Holly~

Thanks for the reply.  It seems fairly straightforward.  From reading this,
I would think that running module-rebuild populate would be the first task.
Add/Del package would be for building discriminate versions of a kernel
(presumably for locating problems or just testing out a kernel revision),
list is simply a list of what's been 'populate'd, toggle would have similar
usage as Add/Del, except that it would allow/disallow a package which has
been 'populate'd, and rebuild would be the heart of the reason for this
utility, to rebuild a set of modules into a new kernel.  Assuming I'm at
least somewhat correct in this, my only point of confusion is whether I
compile the new kernel first, then run module-rebuild? Or does running
module-rebuild 'rebuild' allow me to compile the new kernel, link it, and
reboot into it?

Regards,

JD
 


http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20051024-newsletter.xml

Under "Tips and tricks".

Basically just:

# module-rebuild list
# module-rebuild rebuild

I noticed that if you do another "list" after the "rebuild", the
same modules show as needing rebuild.  Then after a reboot
the "list" shows clean.  So I'm assuming the "list" is against
your running kernel.

HTH,
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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread John Dangler
hrmm...
I recompile the new kernel, before rebooting, I run module-rebuild list...
and get one entry - "=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4"

So, I reboot the new kernel, and get no Ethernet, no wireless, no sound,
nonvidia, and the vga mode is wrong.  (the grub entry is an exact copy of
the previous kernel).

After the reboot, I run module-rebuild list, thinking that I would see all
of those packages... nope.  Only nvidia kernel.

I'm missing something, here.

Any input is appreciated.

JD

-Original Message-
From: Roy Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:12 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler wrote:

>Holly~
>
>Thanks for the reply.  It seems fairly straightforward.  From reading this,
>I would think that running module-rebuild populate would be the first task.
>Add/Del package would be for building discriminate versions of a kernel
>(presumably for locating problems or just testing out a kernel revision),
>list is simply a list of what's been 'populate'd, toggle would have similar
>usage as Add/Del, except that it would allow/disallow a package which has
>been 'populate'd, and rebuild would be the heart of the reason for this
>utility, to rebuild a set of modules into a new kernel.  Assuming I'm at
>least somewhat correct in this, my only point of confusion is whether I
>compile the new kernel first, then run module-rebuild? Or does running
>module-rebuild 'rebuild' allow me to compile the new kernel, link it, and
>reboot into it?
>
>Regards,
>
>JD
>  
>
http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20051024-newsletter.xml

Under "Tips and tricks".

Basically just:

# module-rebuild list
# module-rebuild rebuild

I noticed that if you do another "list" after the "rebuild", the
same modules show as needing rebuild.  Then after a reboot
the "list" shows clean.  So I'm assuming the "list" is against
your running kernel.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread Roy Wright

John Dangler wrote:


hrmm...
I recompile the new kernel, before rebooting, I run module-rebuild list...
and get one entry - "=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4"

So, I reboot the new kernel, and get no Ethernet, no wireless, no sound,
nonvidia, and the vga mode is wrong.  (the grub entry is an exact copy of
the previous kernel).

After the reboot, I run module-rebuild list, thinking that I would see all
of those packages... nope.  Only nvidia kernel.

I'm missing something, here.

Any input is appreciated.

JD
 




When you rebuilt your kernel, did you:

# make menuconfig
# make && make modules_install && make install

The make modules_install should bring your network
and other modules online...

The make install will copy the kernel to your boot
partition.

HTH,
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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread John Dangler
Roy~
Thanks for the reply.  I actually used genkernel to make the kernel.  I used
'genkernel all'.  That's why I'm a little confused as to why this didn't
take effect.  The previous kernel was also built with genkernel and didn't
have any problems.

Regards,

JD

-Original Message-
From: Roy Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 5:27 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler wrote:

>hrmm...
>I recompile the new kernel, before rebooting, I run module-rebuild list...
>and get one entry - "=media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r4"
>
>So, I reboot the new kernel, and get no Ethernet, no wireless, no sound,
>nonvidia, and the vga mode is wrong.  (the grub entry is an exact copy of
>the previous kernel).
>
>After the reboot, I run module-rebuild list, thinking that I would see all
>of those packages... nope.  Only nvidia kernel.
>
>I'm missing something, here.
>
>Any input is appreciated.
>
>JD
>  
>
>
When you rebuilt your kernel, did you:

# make menuconfig
# make && make modules_install && make install

The make modules_install should bring your network
and other modules online...

The make install will copy the kernel to your boot
partition.

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Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread Qian Qiao
On 10/30/05, John Dangler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Roy~
> Thanks for the reply.  I actually used genkernel to make the kernel.  I used
> 'genkernel all'.  That's why I'm a little confused as to why this didn't
> take effect.  The previous kernel was also built with genkernel and didn't
> have any problems.

Is your /usr/src/linux pointing to the new kernel source?

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Re: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-30 Thread Roy Wright

John Dangler wrote:


Roy~
Thanks for the reply.  I actually used genkernel to make the kernel.  I used
'genkernel all'.  That's why I'm a little confused as to why this didn't
take effect.  The previous kernel was also built with genkernel and didn't
have any problems.

Regards,

JD
 


I'm about out of my league with this.  Just a couple of days experience
with genkernel before switching to menuconfig...

Just a few things to check.

dmesg

recent logs in /var/log

Look in /lib/modules.  You should see some kernel directories.  Ex:

royw-gentoo etc # ls /lib/modules/
2.4.28  2.6.11-gentoo-r11  2.6.11-gentoo-r4  2.6.11-gentoo-r9  
2.6.12-gentoo-r10  2.6.13-gentoo-r3


Then look in the problem kernel's directory.  Ex:

royw-gentoo etc # ls /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/
CiscoVPN  kernel  modules.alias   modules.dep  
modules.inputmap   modules.pcimap   modules.usbmap  video
build miscmodules.ccwmap  modules.ieee1394map  
modules.isapnpmap  modules.symbols  source


Then you can dig down into kernel/* looking for *.ko files.  Ex:

royw-gentoo etc # find /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/kernel -name 
"*.ko" -print

/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/kernel/drivers/acpi/video.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/kernel/drivers/base/firmware_class.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/kernel/drivers/block/pktcdvd.ko
...

This should give you a warm fuzzy that the modules were built...

If all that's there, then look at the modules configs in /etc.  Ex:

royw-gentoo etc # ls -d /etc/modules*
/etc/modules.autoload.d  /etc/modules.conf  /etc/modules.conf.old  
/etc/modules.d  /etc/modules.devfs


/etc/modules.d contains individual module config files.  modules-update 
will merge these into

/etc/modules.conf.

That's about the sum of my knowledge here...

HTH,
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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-10-31 Thread John Dangler
Yes, it is.

JD

-Original Message-
From: Qian Qiao [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:00 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

On 10/30/05, John Dangler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Roy~
> Thanks for the reply.  I actually used genkernel to make the kernel.  I
used
> 'genkernel all'.  That's why I'm a little confused as to why this didn't
> take effect.  The previous kernel was also built with genkernel and didn't
> have any problems.

Is your /usr/src/linux pointing to the new kernel source?

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RE: [gentoo-user] updates

2005-11-01 Thread John Dangler
Roy~
I've been leaning toward building the kernel myself; maybe this is a good
time to jump in...

I know from lspci that, in addition to the nvidia kernel (which
module-rebuild correctly identifies), that ipw2100 (wireless) is a module
that I had to emerge in order to be functional on my laptop.  I also know
that I emerged alsa sound to get all the functionality I wanted there.  And,
from going through menuconfig, it appears that the sound/modem controller
(Intel AC97) and the Firewire (IEEE1394) is selectable within the kernel
config.
So, my question would be - why doesn't module-rebuild see the ipw2100 (at
least), and the alsa drivers (at most)?

I'm still reading through the docs and re-reading the handbook on kernel
generation so I'll be trying this out later today.  I know that I had a
lengthy discourse with Holly regarding splash, which was never really
resolved for me regardless of the kernel generation method chosen.

JD 

-Original Message-
From: Roy Wright [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 11:16 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates

John Dangler wrote:

>Roy~
>Thanks for the reply.  I actually used genkernel to make the kernel.  I
used
>'genkernel all'.  That's why I'm a little confused as to why this didn't
>take effect.  The previous kernel was also built with genkernel and didn't
>have any problems.
>
>Regards,
>
>JD
>  
>
I'm about out of my league with this.  Just a couple of days experience
with genkernel before switching to menuconfig...

Just a few things to check.

dmesg

recent logs in /var/log

Look in /lib/modules.  You should see some kernel directories.  Ex:

royw-gentoo etc # ls /lib/modules/
2.4.28  2.6.11-gentoo-r11  2.6.11-gentoo-r4  2.6.11-gentoo-r9  
2.6.12-gentoo-r10  2.6.13-gentoo-r3

Then look in the problem kernel's directory.  Ex:

royw-gentoo etc # ls /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/
CiscoVPN  kernel  modules.alias   modules.dep  
modules.inputmap   modules.pcimap   modules.usbmap  video
build miscmodules.ccwmap  modules.ieee1394map  
modules.isapnpmap  modules.symbols  source

Then you can dig down into kernel/* looking for *.ko files.  Ex:

royw-gentoo etc # find /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/kernel -name 
"*.ko" -print
/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/kernel/drivers/acpi/video.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/kernel/drivers/base/firmware_class.ko
/lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r10/kernel/drivers/block/pktcdvd.ko
...

This should give you a warm fuzzy that the modules were built...

If all that's there, then look at the modules configs in /etc.  Ex:

royw-gentoo etc # ls -d /etc/modules*
/etc/modules.autoload.d  /etc/modules.conf  /etc/modules.conf.old  
/etc/modules.d  /etc/modules.devfs

/etc/modules.d contains individual module config files.  modules-update 
will merge these into
/etc/modules.conf.

That's about the sum of my knowledge here...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-19 Thread deface
did etc-update over write xorg.conf ?

On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:06 PM, Grant wrote:

> I just updated a lot of packages on my laptop including xorg stuff,
> the intel-drivers, and firefox.  Firefox is running really slowly now,
> with kind of a lag to everything.  Does anyone know of anything to try
> in order to fix it?  Do I need to disable or enable DRI?
> 
> - Grant
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-19 Thread Grant
> did etc-update over write xorg.conf ?

I actually don't use an xorg.conf at all.

- Grant


>> I just updated a lot of packages on my laptop including xorg stuff,
>> the intel-drivers, and firefox.  Firefox is running really slowly now,
>> with kind of a lag to everything.  Does anyone know of anything to try
>> in order to fix it?  Do I need to disable or enable DRI?
>>
>> - Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-20 Thread deface
ummm .. ok ? so your using the default xorg.conf .. could be why youve got bad 
performance.

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml

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On Apr 19, 2010, at 5:43 PM, Grant wrote:

>> did etc-update over write xorg.conf ?
> 
> I actually don't use an xorg.conf at all.
> 
> - Grant
> 
> 
>>> I just updated a lot of packages on my laptop including xorg stuff,
>>> the intel-drivers, and firefox.  Firefox is running really slowly now,
>>> with kind of a lag to everything.  Does anyone know of anything to try
>>> in order to fix it?  Do I need to disable or enable DRI?
>>> 
>>> - Grant
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-20 Thread Bartosz Szatkowski
Dnia 2010-04-19, pon o godzinie 20:24 -0500, deface pisze:
> ummm .. ok ? so your using the default xorg.conf .. could be why youve got 
> bad performance.
> 
> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
> 
> -
> deface
But the new version of xorg (from circa 1.7) dont really need xorg.conf,
moreover its discouraged to use one. (or just i think so)

Grant, try to reemerge firefox (and if You haven't done it already the
x11-drivers/*)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-20 Thread Grant
>> ummm .. ok ? so your using the default xorg.conf .. could be why youve got 
>> bad performance.
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
>>
>> -
>> deface
> But the new version of xorg (from circa 1.7) dont really need xorg.conf,
> moreover its discouraged to use one. (or just i think so)

Exactly.

> Grant, try to reemerge firefox (and if You haven't done it already the
> x11-drivers/*)

I re-emerged them with no change.  I do think it has to do with
x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel though.  I've had this problem in the
past, and the solution was to mask
>x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.7.1.  Unfortunately, those drivers
don't work with the latest xorg updates and now I'm on
xf86-video-intel-2.9.1.  My wife has an identical laptop with the same
issue.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-20 Thread Bartosz Szatkowski
Dnia 2010-04-20, wto o godzinie 11:51 -0700, Grant pisze:
> >> ummm .. ok ? so your using the default xorg.conf .. could be why youve got 
> >> bad performance.
> >>
> >> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
> >>
> >> -
> >> deface
> > But the new version of xorg (from circa 1.7) dont really need xorg.conf,
> > moreover its discouraged to use one. (or just i think so)
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> > Grant, try to reemerge firefox (and if You haven't done it already the
> > x11-drivers/*)
> 
> I re-emerged them with no change.  I do think it has to do with
> x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel though.  I've had this problem in the
> past, and the solution was to mask
> >x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.7.1.  Unfortunately, those drivers
> don't work with the latest xorg updates and now I'm on
> xf86-video-intel-2.9.1.  My wife has an identical laptop with the same
> issue.
> 
> - Grant
> 
Are you using modeset? What about other apps (try some video etc) -
laging to? Check if You have "Direct rendering true" in out of glxinfo.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-21 Thread Adam
>> ummm .. ok ? so your using the default xorg.conf .. could be why youve got 
>> bad performance.
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
>>
>> -
>> deface
> But the new version of xorg (from circa 1.7) dont really need xorg.conf,
> moreover its discouraged to use one. (or just i think so)

You only dont need xorg.conf IF it works without itand even if it
does work without it, its unlikely to be the best config.

grep ^\(EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log and post the result.



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-21 Thread Mick
On 21 April 2010 12:26, Adam  wrote:
>>> ummm .. ok ? so your using the default xorg.conf .. could be why youve got 
>>> bad performance.
>>>
>>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
>>>
>>> -
>>> deface
>> But the new version of xorg (from circa 1.7) dont really need xorg.conf,
>> moreover its discouraged to use one. (or just i think so)
>
> You only dont need xorg.conf IF it works without itand even if it
> does work without it, its unlikely to be the best config.
>
> grep ^\(EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log and post the result.

As far as I recall xulrunner/ff asked for revdep-rebuild to be run
after emerging it.  Have you done this plus lafixer --justfixit for
good measure?
-- 
Regards,
Mick



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-21 Thread Grant
>>> ummm .. ok ? so your using the default xorg.conf .. could be why youve got 
>>> bad performance.
>>>
>>> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml
>>>
>>> -
>>> deface
>> But the new version of xorg (from circa 1.7) dont really need xorg.conf,
>> moreover its discouraged to use one. (or just i think so)
>
> You only dont need xorg.conf IF it works without itand even if it
> does work without it, its unlikely to be the best config.
>
> grep ^\(EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log and post the result.

Could this be the problem?

# grep ^\(EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
(EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
(EE) intel(0): [drm] Failed to open DRM device for : No such file or directory
(EE) intel(0): Failed to become DRM master.
(EE) intel(0): Failed to initialize kernel memory manager

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-21 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/21/2010 3:07 PM, Grant wrote:
> Could this be the problem?
> 
> # grep ^\(EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
> (EE) intel(0): [drm] Failed to open DRM device for : No such file or directory
> (EE) intel(0): Failed to become DRM master.
> (EE) intel(0): Failed to initialize kernel memory manager

The first two errors are fine; Xorg defaults to trying vesa and fbdev as
display drivers and you just don't have them.

The last three are your problem.  The intel video driver is unable to
properly access the DRM subsystem, which will definitely cause X to slow
to a crawl.

The most likely cause of your errors is that the intel AGP driver (i810
or i915, depending on your hardware) isn't getting loaded.  If that's
the case, you should see an error such as:

[drm] failed to load kernel module "i915"

in Xorg.0.log just before the ones from intel.  If the modules are being
loaded, you'll likely see some other errors around that same area.  The
aren't tagged with (EE), unfortunately; try:

# grep -5 'Failed to open DRM' Xorg.0.log

You can also check your dmesg output to see if the devices are being
initialized properly:

platypus log # dmesg | grep agp
Linux agpgart interface v0.103
agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel 965GM Chipset
agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected 7676K stolen memory
agpgart-intel :00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xe000

platypus log # dmesg | grep drm
[drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
[drm] set up 7M of stolen space
[drm] initialized overlay support
fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
[drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for :00:02.0 on minor 0

If everything's working, you should have the following devices that the
Xorg driver needs:

platypus log # ls -l /dev/dri
total 0
crw-rw 1 root video 226,  0 Apr 20 13:11 card0
crw-rw 1 root video 226, 64 Apr 20 13:11 controlD64





Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-21 Thread Grant
>> Could this be the problem?
>>
>> # grep ^\(EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>> (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
>> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
>> (EE) intel(0): [drm] Failed to open DRM device for : No such file or 
>> directory
>> (EE) intel(0): Failed to become DRM master.
>> (EE) intel(0): Failed to initialize kernel memory manager
>
> The first two errors are fine; Xorg defaults to trying vesa and fbdev as
> display drivers and you just don't have them.
>
> The last three are your problem.  The intel video driver is unable to
> properly access the DRM subsystem, which will definitely cause X to slow
> to a crawl.
>
> The most likely cause of your errors is that the intel AGP driver (i810
> or i915, depending on your hardware) isn't getting loaded.  If that's
> the case, you should see an error such as:
>
> [drm] failed to load kernel module "i915"
>
> in Xorg.0.log just before the ones from intel.  If the modules are being
> loaded, you'll likely see some other errors around that same area.  The
> aren't tagged with (EE), unfortunately; try:
>
> # grep -5 'Failed to open DRM' Xorg.0.log
>
> You can also check your dmesg output to see if the devices are being
> initialized properly:
>
> platypus log # dmesg | grep agp
> Linux agpgart interface v0.103
> agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel 965GM Chipset
> agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected 7676K stolen memory
> agpgart-intel :00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xe000
>
> platypus log # dmesg | grep drm
> [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
> [drm] set up 7M of stolen space
> [drm] initialized overlay support
> fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
> [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for :00:02.0 on minor 0
>
> If everything's working, you should have the following devices that the
> Xorg driver needs:
>
> platypus log # ls -l /dev/dri
> total 0
> crw-rw 1 root video 226,  0 Apr 20 13:11 card0
> crw-rw 1 root video 226, 64 Apr 20 13:11 controlD64

Ah, thank you so much.  I needed to enable CONFIG_DRM_I915 in the kernel.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-22 Thread Grant
>>> Could this be the problem?
>>>
>>> # grep ^\(EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
>>> (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
>>> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
>>> (EE) intel(0): [drm] Failed to open DRM device for : No such file or
>>> directory
>>> (EE) intel(0): Failed to become DRM master.
>>> (EE) intel(0): Failed to initialize kernel memory manager
>>
>> The first two errors are fine; Xorg defaults to trying vesa and fbdev as
>> display drivers and you just don't have them.
>>
>> The last three are your problem.  The intel video driver is unable to
>> properly access the DRM subsystem, which will definitely cause X to slow
>> to a crawl.
>>
>> The most likely cause of your errors is that the intel AGP driver (i810
>> or i915, depending on your hardware) isn't getting loaded.  If that's
>> the case, you should see an error such as:
>>
>> [drm] failed to load kernel module "i915"
>>
>> in Xorg.0.log just before the ones from intel.  If the modules are being
>> loaded, you'll likely see some other errors around that same area.  The
>> aren't tagged with (EE), unfortunately; try:
>>
>> # grep -5 'Failed to open DRM' Xorg.0.log
>>
>> You can also check your dmesg output to see if the devices are being
>> initialized properly:
>>
>> platypus log # dmesg | grep agp
>> Linux agpgart interface v0.103
>> agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel 965GM Chipset
>> agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected 7676K stolen memory
>> agpgart-intel :00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xe000
>>
>> platypus log # dmesg | grep drm
>> [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
>> [drm] set up 7M of stolen space
>> [drm] initialized overlay support
>> fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
>> [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for :00:02.0 on minor 0
>>
>> If everything's working, you should have the following devices that the
>> Xorg driver needs:
>>
>> platypus log # ls -l /dev/dri
>> total 0
>> crw-rw 1 root video 226,  0 Apr 20 13:11 card0
>> crw-rw 1 root video 226, 64 Apr 20 13:11 controlD64
>
> Ah, thank you so much.  I needed to enable CONFIG_DRM_I915 in the kernel.
>
> - Grant

Strangely, now my laptop's brightness adjustment doesn't work via the
keyboard shortcuts.  Any ideas on that?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-22 Thread Mick
On Thursday 22 April 2010 17:47:23 Grant wrote:
> >>> Could this be the problem?
> >>>
> >>> # grep ^\(EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> >>> (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
> >>> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
> >>> (EE) intel(0): [drm] Failed to open DRM device for : No such file or
> >>> directory
> >>> (EE) intel(0): Failed to become DRM master.
> >>> (EE) intel(0): Failed to initialize kernel memory manager
> >>
> >> The first two errors are fine; Xorg defaults to trying vesa and fbdev as
> >> display drivers and you just don't have them.
> >>
> >> The last three are your problem.  The intel video driver is unable to
> >> properly access the DRM subsystem, which will definitely cause X to slow
> >> to a crawl.
> >>
> >> The most likely cause of your errors is that the intel AGP driver (i810
> >> or i915, depending on your hardware) isn't getting loaded.  If that's
> >> the case, you should see an error such as:
> >>
> >> [drm] failed to load kernel module "i915"
> >>
> >> in Xorg.0.log just before the ones from intel.  If the modules are being
> >> loaded, you'll likely see some other errors around that same area.  The
> >> aren't tagged with (EE), unfortunately; try:
> >>
> >> # grep -5 'Failed to open DRM' Xorg.0.log
> >>
> >> You can also check your dmesg output to see if the devices are being
> >> initialized properly:
> >>
> >> platypus log # dmesg | grep agp
> >> Linux agpgart interface v0.103
> >> agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel 965GM Chipset
> >> agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected 7676K stolen memory
> >> agpgart-intel :00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xe000
> >>
> >> platypus log # dmesg | grep drm
> >> [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
> >> [drm] set up 7M of stolen space
> >> [drm] initialized overlay support
> >> fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
> >> [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for :00:02.0 on minor 0
> >>
> >> If everything's working, you should have the following devices that the
> >> Xorg driver needs:
> >>
> >> platypus log # ls -l /dev/dri
> >> total 0
> >> crw-rw 1 root video 226,  0 Apr 20 13:11 card0
> >> crw-rw 1 root video 226, 64 Apr 20 13:11 controlD64
> >
> > Ah, thank you so much.  I needed to enable CONFIG_DRM_I915 in the kernel.
> >
> > - Grant
> 
> Strangely, now my laptop's brightness adjustment doesn't work via the
> keyboard shortcuts.  Any ideas on that?

No idea other than to suggest that you take a look in 
/usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/* for any files that you could modify 
after you copy them to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/ - but I wouldn't know how.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-23 Thread Bartosz Szatkowski
Dnia 2010-04-22, czw o godzinie 09:47 -0700, Grant pisze:
> >>> Could this be the problem?
> >>>
> >>> # grep ^\(EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log
> >>> (EE) Failed to load module "vesa" (module does not exist, 0)
> >>> (EE) Failed to load module "fbdev" (module does not exist, 0)
> >>> (EE) intel(0): [drm] Failed to open DRM device for : No such file or
> >>> directory
> >>> (EE) intel(0): Failed to become DRM master.
> >>> (EE) intel(0): Failed to initialize kernel memory manager
> >>
> >> The first two errors are fine; Xorg defaults to trying vesa and fbdev as
> >> display drivers and you just don't have them.
> >>
> >> The last three are your problem.  The intel video driver is unable to
> >> properly access the DRM subsystem, which will definitely cause X to slow
> >> to a crawl.
> >>
> >> The most likely cause of your errors is that the intel AGP driver (i810
> >> or i915, depending on your hardware) isn't getting loaded.  If that's
> >> the case, you should see an error such as:
> >>
> >> [drm] failed to load kernel module "i915"
> >>
> >> in Xorg.0.log just before the ones from intel.  If the modules are being
> >> loaded, you'll likely see some other errors around that same area.  The
> >> aren't tagged with (EE), unfortunately; try:
> >>
> >> # grep -5 'Failed to open DRM' Xorg.0.log
> >>
> >> You can also check your dmesg output to see if the devices are being
> >> initialized properly:
> >>
> >> platypus log # dmesg | grep agp
> >> Linux agpgart interface v0.103
> >> agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel 965GM Chipset
> >> agpgart-intel :00:00.0: detected 7676K stolen memory
> >> agpgart-intel :00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xe000
> >>
> >> platypus log # dmesg | grep drm
> >> [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
> >> [drm] set up 7M of stolen space
> >> [drm] initialized overlay support
> >> fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
> >> [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for :00:02.0 on minor 0
> >>
> >> If everything's working, you should have the following devices that the
> >> Xorg driver needs:
> >>
> >> platypus log # ls -l /dev/dri
> >> total 0
> >> crw-rw 1 root video 226,  0 Apr 20 13:11 card0
> >> crw-rw 1 root video 226, 64 Apr 20 13:11 controlD64
> >
> > Ah, thank you so much.  I needed to enable CONFIG_DRM_I915 in the kernel.
> >
> > - Grant
> 
> Strangely, now my laptop's brightness adjustment doesn't work via the
> keyboard shortcuts.  Any ideas on that?
> 
> - Grant
> 
Please share the beast model :P (or maybe ive missed it). 
in kernel config You have multiple option for backlight eg. for thinkpad
there is extra one in "thinkpad specific acpi" maybe You have something
similar for Yours stuff.

And (its only my private opinion - could base on wrong facts :P) dont be
used to hal because the 1.8 xorg-server dont like it any more,
preferring udev, and future versions wouldn't probably support hal at
all.

Lately i delete hal USE and now iam using udev - excepting auto mounting
usb stick etc.
-- 
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You must exorcise any evil proprietary operating systems that possess
any of the computers under your control, and then install a wholly/holy
free operating system, and then only install Free Software on top of
that.




Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-23 Thread Grant
>> Strangely, now my laptop's brightness adjustment doesn't work via the
>> keyboard shortcuts.  Any ideas on that?
>>
>> - Grant
>>
> Please share the beast model :P (or maybe ive missed it).
> in kernel config You have multiple option for backlight eg. for thinkpad
> there is extra one in "thinkpad specific acpi" maybe You have something
> similar for Yours stuff.

It's a Dell Vostro 1320.  The keyboard shortcuts to change brightness
were working great until I enabled DRM in the kernel.  Can you tell me
where in the kernel those options can be found, or part of the
variable name that defines them?

> And (its only my private opinion - could base on wrong facts :P) dont be
> used to hal because the 1.8 xorg-server dont like it any more,
> preferring udev, and future versions wouldn't probably support hal at
> all.
>
> Lately i delete hal USE and now iam using udev - excepting auto mounting
> usb stick etc.

Can anyone confirm that as users we should be moving away from hal?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-23 Thread erdunand
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 09:51:19AM -0700, Grant wrote:
> > And (its only my private opinion - could base on wrong facts :P) dont be
> > used to hal because the 1.8 xorg-server dont like it any more,
> > preferring udev, and future versions wouldn't probably support hal at
> > all.
> >
> > Lately i delete hal USE and now iam using udev - excepting auto mounting
> > usb stick etc.
> 
> Can anyone confirm that as users we should be moving away from hal?
> 
> - Grant
> 

I'm using x11-base/xorg-server-1.8.0 from the x11 overlay and it doesn't
even have a 'hal' use flag to enable. Furthermore, there is a webpage on
x.org about this: http://www.x.org/wiki/XorgHAL

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Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:51 AM, Grant  wrote:
> Can anyone confirm that as users we should be moving away from hal?

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/XorgHAL



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-23 Thread Grant
>> Can anyone confirm that as users we should be moving away from hal?
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml
> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/XorgHAL

OK, and since xorg-server-1.7 doesn't have a udev USE flag, I should
probably stick with hal until 1.8.  Please let me know if that isn't
the case.  I'm on udev-149.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-23 Thread Mike Edenfield
On 4/23/2010 1:37 PM, Grant wrote:
>>> Can anyone confirm that as users we should be moving away from hal?
>>
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml
>> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/XorgHAL
> 
> OK, and since xorg-server-1.7 doesn't have a udev USE flag, I should
> probably stick with hal until 1.8.  Please let me know if that isn't
> the case.  I'm on udev-149.

If HAL is working for you, stick with it.  If not, turn it off.  Xorg
1.7 works equally well with or without HAL.  The main difference is how
much manually configuration you need to do.

The relative stability of using/not using udev with Xorg 1.8 have yet to
determined.

:)

--Mike



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-23 Thread Grant
 Can anyone confirm that as users we should be moving away from hal?
>>>
>>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml
>>> http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/XorgHAL
>>
>> OK, and since xorg-server-1.7 doesn't have a udev USE flag, I should
>> probably stick with hal until 1.8.  Please let me know if that isn't
>> the case.  I'm on udev-149.
>
> If HAL is working for you, stick with it.  If not, turn it off.  Xorg
> 1.7 works equally well with or without HAL.  The main difference is how
> much manually configuration you need to do.
>
> The relative stability of using/not using udev with Xorg 1.8 have yet to
> determined.

Could switching to udev from hal fix my brightness adjustment keys?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-23 Thread Dale

Mike Edenfield wrote:

On 4/23/2010 1:37 PM, Grant wrote:
   

Can anyone confirm that as users we should be moving away from hal?
 

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/XorgHAL
   

OK, and since xorg-server-1.7 doesn't have a udev USE flag, I should
probably stick with hal until 1.8.  Please let me know if that isn't
the case.  I'm on udev-149.
 

If HAL is working for you, stick with it.  If not, turn it off.  Xorg
1.7 works equally well with or without HAL.  The main difference is how
much manually configuration you need to do.

The relative stability of using/not using udev with Xorg 1.8 have yet to
determined.

:)

--Mike


   


Even tho I'm not much on hal, if it works, use it.  If it is not 
working, then switch to udev, back to having a xorg.conf file or 
whatever else will work for you.


Sometimes it just depends on your hardware.  Some systems like one 
software package to manage things and another system will work better 
with something else.  You just have to find one that works and stick 
with it.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-24 Thread Bartosz Szatkowski
Dnia 2010-04-23, pią o godzinie 09:51 -0700, Grant pisze:
> >> Strangely, now my laptop's brightness adjustment doesn't work via the
> >> keyboard shortcuts.  Any ideas on that?
> >>
> >> - Grant
> >>
> > Please share the beast model :P (or maybe ive missed it).
> > in kernel config You have multiple option for backlight eg. for thinkpad
> > there is extra one in "thinkpad specific acpi" maybe You have something
> > similar for Yours stuff.
> 
> It's a Dell Vostro 1320.  The keyboard shortcuts to change brightness
> were working great until I enabled DRM in the kernel.  Can you tell me
> where in the kernel those options can be found, or part of the
> variable name that defines them?
> 
Try running xev and punching brightness keys, if you would see
"effects" (some text in terminal) then its OK :P You should change the
Acpi configs (etc/acpi/) or Gnome/KDE/Xfce/... bindings.

(if You dont know it already)
For acpi config You'll need "event id" try running acpi_listen.
eg. /etc/acpi/events/sleep:
event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 0080 1004
action=/etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh

and into actions you put scripts, try using xbacklight.

If You wouldn't have any reaction in xev and acpi_listen i check the
option in kernel.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-26 Thread Grant
>> >> Strangely, now my laptop's brightness adjustment doesn't work via the
>> >> keyboard shortcuts.  Any ideas on that?
>> >>
>> >> - Grant
>> >>
>> > Please share the beast model :P (or maybe ive missed it).
>> > in kernel config You have multiple option for backlight eg. for thinkpad
>> > there is extra one in "thinkpad specific acpi" maybe You have something
>> > similar for Yours stuff.
>>
>> It's a Dell Vostro 1320.  The keyboard shortcuts to change brightness
>> were working great until I enabled DRM in the kernel.  Can you tell me
>> where in the kernel those options can be found, or part of the
>> variable name that defines them?
>>
> Try running xev and punching brightness keys, if you would see
> "effects" (some text in terminal) then its OK :P You should change the
> Acpi configs (etc/acpi/) or Gnome/KDE/Xfce/... bindings.

I do see text in xev when pressing the brightness keys.

> (if You dont know it already)
> For acpi config You'll need "event id" try running acpi_listen.
> eg. /etc/acpi/events/sleep:
> event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 0080 1004
> action=/etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh
>
> and into actions you put scripts, try using xbacklight.

You think I should use xbacklight or similar even though it was
working on its own before?

- Grant


> If You wouldn't have any reaction in xev and acpi_listen i check the
> option in kernel.



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-27 Thread Bartosz Szatkowski
Dnia 2010-04-26, pon o godzinie 19:10 -0700, Grant pisze:
> >> >> Strangely, now my laptop's brightness adjustment doesn't work via the
> >> >> keyboard shortcuts.  Any ideas on that?
> >> >>
> >> >> - Grant
> >> >>
> >> > Please share the beast model :P (or maybe ive missed it).
> >> > in kernel config You have multiple option for backlight eg. for thinkpad
> >> > there is extra one in "thinkpad specific acpi" maybe You have something
> >> > similar for Yours stuff.
> >>
> >> It's a Dell Vostro 1320.  The keyboard shortcuts to change brightness
> >> were working great until I enabled DRM in the kernel.  Can you tell me
> >> where in the kernel those options can be found, or part of the
> >> variable name that defines them?
> >>
> > Try running xev and punching brightness keys, if you would see
> > "effects" (some text in terminal) then its OK :P You should change the
> > Acpi configs (etc/acpi/) or Gnome/KDE/Xfce/... bindings.
> 
> I do see text in xev when pressing the brightness keys.
> 
> > (if You dont know it already)
> > For acpi config You'll need "event id" try running acpi_listen.
> > eg. /etc/acpi/events/sleep:
> > event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 0080 1004
> > action=/etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh
> >
> > and into actions you put scripts, try using xbacklight.
> 
> You think I should use xbacklight or similar even though it was
> working on its own before?
> 
> - Grant
> 
> 
> > If You wouldn't have any reaction in xev and acpi_listen i check the
> > option in kernel.
> 
I think that its better to have things done even if would be around then
dont done it at all. :)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-27 Thread Grant
>> >> >> Strangely, now my laptop's brightness adjustment doesn't work via the
>> >> >> keyboard shortcuts.  Any ideas on that?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - Grant
>> >> >>
>> >> > Please share the beast model :P (or maybe ive missed it).
>> >> > in kernel config You have multiple option for backlight eg. for thinkpad
>> >> > there is extra one in "thinkpad specific acpi" maybe You have something
>> >> > similar for Yours stuff.
>> >>
>> >> It's a Dell Vostro 1320.  The keyboard shortcuts to change brightness
>> >> were working great until I enabled DRM in the kernel.  Can you tell me
>> >> where in the kernel those options can be found, or part of the
>> >> variable name that defines them?
>> >>
>> > Try running xev and punching brightness keys, if you would see
>> > "effects" (some text in terminal) then its OK :P You should change the
>> > Acpi configs (etc/acpi/) or Gnome/KDE/Xfce/... bindings.
>>
>> I do see text in xev when pressing the brightness keys.
>>
>> > (if You dont know it already)
>> > For acpi config You'll need "event id" try running acpi_listen.
>> > eg. /etc/acpi/events/sleep:
>> > event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 0080 1004
>> > action=/etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh
>> >
>> > and into actions you put scripts, try using xbacklight.
>>
>> You think I should use xbacklight or similar even though it was
>> working on its own before?
>>
>> - Grant
>>
>>
>> > If You wouldn't have any reaction in xev and acpi_listen i check the
>> > option in kernel.
>>
> I think that its better to have things done even if would be around then
> dont done it at all. :)

Yes but I think I should find the built-in mechanism which was
allowing it to work before instead of writing my own script to make it
work.  Don't you think so?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-27 Thread Bartosz Szatkowski
Dnia 2010-04-27, wto o godzinie 10:37 -0700, Grant pisze:
> >> >> >> Strangely, now my laptop's brightness adjustment doesn't work via the
> >> >> >> keyboard shortcuts.  Any ideas on that?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> - Grant
> >> >> >>
> >> >> > Please share the beast model :P (or maybe ive missed it).
> >> >> > in kernel config You have multiple option for backlight eg. for 
> >> >> > thinkpad
> >> >> > there is extra one in "thinkpad specific acpi" maybe You have 
> >> >> > something
> >> >> > similar for Yours stuff.
> >> >>
> >> >> It's a Dell Vostro 1320.  The keyboard shortcuts to change brightness
> >> >> were working great until I enabled DRM in the kernel.  Can you tell me
> >> >> where in the kernel those options can be found, or part of the
> >> >> variable name that defines them?
> >> >>
> >> > Try running xev and punching brightness keys, if you would see
> >> > "effects" (some text in terminal) then its OK :P You should change the
> >> > Acpi configs (etc/acpi/) or Gnome/KDE/Xfce/... bindings.
> >>
> >> I do see text in xev when pressing the brightness keys.
> >>
> >> > (if You dont know it already)
> >> > For acpi config You'll need "event id" try running acpi_listen.
> >> > eg. /etc/acpi/events/sleep:
> >> > event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 0080 1004
> >> > action=/etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh
> >> >
> >> > and into actions you put scripts, try using xbacklight.
> >>
> >> You think I should use xbacklight or similar even though it was
> >> working on its own before?
> >>
> >> - Grant
> >>
> >>
> >> > If You wouldn't have any reaction in xev and acpi_listen i check the
> >> > option in kernel.
> >>
> > I think that its better to have things done even if would be around then
> > dont done it at all. :)
> 
> Yes but I think I should find the built-in mechanism which was
> allowing it to work before instead of writing my own script to make it
> work.  Don't you think so?
> 
> - Grant
> 
Try built in Gnome\Kde\Xfce(etc) bindings i had some troubles (in xfce)
- keys with names XF86* starts to randomly changes names or disappear
from configs ... maybe its Your case too.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Updates = slow firefox

2010-04-28 Thread Grant
>> >> >> >> Strangely, now my laptop's brightness adjustment doesn't work via 
>> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> keyboard shortcuts.  Any ideas on that?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> - Grant
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> > Please share the beast model :P (or maybe ive missed it).
>> >> >> > in kernel config You have multiple option for backlight eg. for 
>> >> >> > thinkpad
>> >> >> > there is extra one in "thinkpad specific acpi" maybe You have 
>> >> >> > something
>> >> >> > similar for Yours stuff.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It's a Dell Vostro 1320.  The keyboard shortcuts to change brightness
>> >> >> were working great until I enabled DRM in the kernel.  Can you tell me
>> >> >> where in the kernel those options can be found, or part of the
>> >> >> variable name that defines them?
>> >> >>
>> >> > Try running xev and punching brightness keys, if you would see
>> >> > "effects" (some text in terminal) then its OK :P You should change the
>> >> > Acpi configs (etc/acpi/) or Gnome/KDE/Xfce/... bindings.
>> >>
>> >> I do see text in xev when pressing the brightness keys.
>> >>
>> >> > (if You dont know it already)
>> >> > For acpi config You'll need "event id" try running acpi_listen.
>> >> > eg. /etc/acpi/events/sleep:
>> >> > event=ibm/hotkey HKEY 0080 1004
>> >> > action=/etc/acpi/actions/sleep.sh
>> >> >
>> >> > and into actions you put scripts, try using xbacklight.
>> >>
>> >> You think I should use xbacklight or similar even though it was
>> >> working on its own before?
>> >>
>> >> - Grant
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > If You wouldn't have any reaction in xev and acpi_listen i check the
>> >> > option in kernel.
>> >>
>> > I think that its better to have things done even if would be around then
>> > dont done it at all. :)
>>
>> Yes but I think I should find the built-in mechanism which was
>> allowing it to work before instead of writing my own script to make it
>> work.  Don't you think so?
>>
>> - Grant
>>
> Try built in Gnome\Kde\Xfce(etc) bindings i had some troubles (in xfce)
> - keys with names XF86* starts to randomly changes names or disappear
> from configs ... maybe its Your case too.
> --
> Bartosz Szatkowski

Got it, thank you for your help with this.  I used xbacklight along
with the xfce4 keyboard shortcut GUI settings.  My backlight
adjustment keystrokes are displayed as XF86MonBrightnessUp and *Down
in those settings, so there must have been a mechanism adjusting the
backlight based on that before I updated Xorg.  Here are my xbacklight
commands:

xbacklight -inc 15 -steps 1 -time 0
xbacklight -dec 10 -steps 1 -time 0

Thanks again,
Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

2005-08-19 Thread Peter O'Connor

John Dangler wrote:


looking at the list of updates after a fresh install of 2005.1 (2.6.12-r6)
on my laptop which has both wired and wireless networking, I see an entry
which says.

[blocks B] <=net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.0 (is blocking
net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3)

.

.

.

[ebuild N] net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3 -debug 61kb

[ebuild U] net-wirelss/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 [1.1.0] -debug 96kb



After reading the portage documentation online, I'm a little confused.
Should I unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0 in order for the ieee package to emerge?
(when I read through the packages that were necessary for the wireless to
work, I found that I should emerge both.  Any input, as always, is
appreciated.



John D






 

With a quick look at that it looks like the old version of 
net-wireless/ipw2100 is causing ieee80211-1.0.3 to be blocked.


Give this a go:

Update this package first
# emerge -u ipw2100   (or emerge --nodeps -u ipw2100 if that doesn't go)

Then try updating as you did before and see if it still occurs

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RE: [gentoo-user] updates with B

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
That fails with this...
!!! ERROR: net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 failed.
!!! Function linux-mod-src-compile, Line 491, Exitcode 2
!!! Unable to make KSRC=/usr/src/linux KSRC_OUTPUT=/usr/src/linux
IEEE80211_INC=/usr/include all.
3
John D

-Original Message-
From: Peter O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:22 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

John Dangler wrote:

>looking at the list of updates after a fresh install of 2005.1 (2.6.12-r6)
>on my laptop which has both wired and wireless networking, I see an entry
>which says.
>
>[blocks B] <=net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.0 (is blocking
>net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3)
>
>.
>
>.
>
>.
>
>[ebuild N] net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3 -debug 61kb
>
>[ebuild U] net-wirelss/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 [1.1.0] -debug 96kb
>
> 
>
>After reading the portage documentation online, I'm a little confused.
>Should I unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0 in order for the ieee package to emerge?
>(when I read through the packages that were necessary for the wireless to
>work, I found that I should emerge both.  Any input, as always, is
>appreciated.
>
> 
>
>John D
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>  
>
With a quick look at that it looks like the old version of 
net-wireless/ipw2100 is causing ieee80211-1.0.3 to be blocked.

Give this a go:

Update this package first
# emerge -u ipw2100   (or emerge --nodeps -u ipw2100 if that doesn't go)

Then try updating as you did before and see if it still occurs

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RE: [gentoo-user] updates with B

2005-08-19 Thread John Dangler
Would 

John Dangler
GenoFit
800-505-4078 (Corporate)
386-767-3730 (Direct)
www.genofit.com
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-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:31 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] updates with B

>>That fails with this...
>>!!! ERROR: net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 failed.
>>!!! Function linux-mod-src-compile, Line 491, Exitcode 2
>>!!! Unable to make KSRC=/usr/src/linux KSRC_OUTPUT=/usr/src/linux
>>IEEE80211_INC=/usr/include all.
>>
>>John D

Would the solution be to unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0, then emerge -uDv world, then
emerge ipw2100 ?

John D

-Original Message-
From: Peter O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:22 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

John Dangler wrote:

>looking at the list of updates after a fresh install of 2005.1 (2.6.12-r6)
>on my laptop which has both wired and wireless networking, I see an entry
>which says.
>
>[blocks B] <=net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.0 (is blocking
>net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3)
>.
>.
>.
>[ebuild N] net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3 -debug 61kb
>[ebuild U] net-wirelss/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 [1.1.0] -debug 96kb
>
>After reading the portage documentation online, I'm a little confused.
>Should I unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0 in order for the ieee package to emerge?
>(when I read through the packages that were necessary for the wireless to
>work, I found that I should emerge both.  Any input, as always, is
>appreciated.
>
> 
>
>John D
>
> 
>
> 
>
>
>  
>
With a quick look at that it looks like the old version of 
net-wireless/ipw2100 is causing ieee80211-1.0.3 to be blocked.

Give this a go:

Update this package first
# emerge -u ipw2100   (or emerge --nodeps -u ipw2100 if that doesn't go)

Then try updating as you did before and see if it still occurs

Peter


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Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

2005-08-19 Thread Peter O'Connor

John Dangler wrote:

Would 


John Dangler
GenoFit
800-505-4078 (Corporate)
386-767-3730 (Direct)
www.genofit.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 



An interesting conundrum indeed.

You can't install (due to it being blocked) ieee80211-1.0.3 with 
ipw2100-1.1.0 merged


And from the error message you posted it looks like you can't merge 
ipw2100 (>1.1.0) without having the ieee80211 package installed.


So an unmerge of the old version and emerge of the newer version (which 
isn't ideal) was the only way to upgrade ipw2100, which has worked




-Original Message-
From: John Dangler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 9:31 PM

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] updates with B

 


That fails with this...
!!! ERROR: net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 failed.
!!! Function linux-mod-src-compile, Line 491, Exitcode 2
!!! Unable to make KSRC=/usr/src/linux KSRC_OUTPUT=/usr/src/linux
IEEE80211_INC=/usr/include all.

John D
 



Would the solution be to unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0, then emerge -uDv world, then
emerge ipw2100 ?

John D

-Original Message-
From: Peter O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, August 20, 2005 9:22 AM

To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

John Dangler wrote:

 


looking at the list of updates after a fresh install of 2005.1 (2.6.12-r6)
on my laptop which has both wired and wireless networking, I see an entry
which says.

[blocks B] <=net-wireless/ipw2100-1.1.0 (is blocking
net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3)
.
.
.
[ebuild N] net-wireless/ieee80211-1.0.3 -debug 61kb
[ebuild U] net-wirelss/ipw2100-1.1.2-r1 [1.1.0] -debug 96kb

After reading the portage documentation online, I'm a little confused.
Should I unmerge ipw2100-1.1.0 in order for the ieee package to emerge?
(when I read through the packages that were necessary for the wireless to
work, I found that I should emerge both.  Any input, as always, is
appreciated.



John D








   

With a quick look at that it looks like the old version of 
net-wireless/ipw2100 is causing ieee80211-1.0.3 to be blocked.


Give this a go:

Update this package first
# emerge -u ipw2100   (or emerge --nodeps -u ipw2100 if that doesn't go)

Then try updating as you did before and see if it still occurs

Peter


 



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Re: [gentoo-user] updates with B

2005-08-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Sun, Aug 21, 2005 at 03:31:14AM +1200, Peter O'Connor wrote:
> An interesting conundrum indeed.
> 
> You can't install (due to it being blocked) ieee80211-1.0.3 with 
> ipw2100-1.1.0 merged
> 
> And from the error message you posted it looks like you can't merge 
> ipw2100 (>1.1.0) without having the ieee80211 package installed.
> 
> So an unmerge of the old version and emerge of the newer version (which 
> isn't ideal) was the only way to upgrade ipw2100, which has worked

Now that much of a conundrum. If I remember correctly, earlier
versions of ipw2100/2200 provided the functionalities of ieee80211.
The two split in mid July for better packaging (and allowing other
drivers to use the ieee80211 functions). Seeing that these are kernel
modules, ieee80211 package will provide conflicting symbol names with
the (old) ipw2100 package, and that is bad. 

The block prevents the conflict from happening accidentally.

This type of block you will see a lot in gentoo land, especially when
packages are split up or certain functionalities of packages are
extracted (for example, when mailbase and ftpbase were introduced last
year). In general, the solution to blocks due to your current version
being not new enough, is to 
  1. unmerge current version
  2. remerge new version. 
The package being blocked will most likely be included in the emerge
as a dependency.

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