Re: [geos-devel] GEOS cross-heap problems

2009-05-13 Thread strk
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:19:23AM -0400, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
 Paul Ramsey wrote:

 I'd like to hear from others on this.
 
 OK - though I don't see the downside.  Downstream packages only need
 to check for, and use GEOSFree() if they want.  We are just adding a
 new option, not altering an existing one or removing anything.

Agreed, no compatibility problem adding a GEOSFree.
Only, it'll have to stay (I've read Mateusz suggesting using
type-specific destroyers).

Worth going throught the CAPI header files and properly document 
when to use GEOSFree on the return right above the function. 

PS: I've noticed Frank added a ChangeLog entry manually.
Was that the way ? As I haven't touched it :(


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Re: [geos-devel] GEOS cross-heap problems

2009-05-13 Thread Frank Warmerdam

strk wrote:

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:19:23AM -0400, Frank Warmerdam wrote:

Paul Ramsey wrote:



I'd like to hear from others on this.

OK - though I don't see the downside.  Downstream packages only need
to check for, and use GEOSFree() if they want.  We are just adding a
new option, not altering an existing one or removing anything.


Agreed, no compatibility problem adding a GEOSFree.


Folks,

OK, I've back ported the GEOSFree() function into the 3.1 branch.

Note, it will be very important to ensure that the C API version
is upgraded for the 3.1.1 release.  I'm not sure how we remember
to do stuff like this.  I see there have been a few fixes in the 3.1
branch:

  http://trac.osgeo.org/geos/log/branches/3.1

Perhaps it would be appropriate for us to roll out a 3.1.1?


Only, it'll have to stay (I've read Mateusz suggesting using
type-specific destroyers).


I cannot imagine why a type specific destroyer would be needed
for simple malloc()/free() buffer allocations.

Worth going throught the CAPI header files and properly document 
when to use GEOSFree on the return right above the function. 


I have slightly modified the geos_c.h.in to reflect use of GEOSFree()
but I wonder if there is other documentation of the C API.


PS: I've noticed Frank added a ChangeLog entry manually.
Was that the way ? As I haven't touched it :(


I assumed this was expected practice since the ChangeLog exists
and is updated by at least some developers.

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Re: [geos-devel] GEOS cross-heap problems

2009-05-13 Thread Mateusz Loskot

Frank Warmerdam wrote:

strk wrote:

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:19:23AM -0400, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
Only, it'll have to stay (I've read Mateusz suggesting using
type-specific destroyers).


I cannot imagine why a type specific destroyer would be needed
for simple malloc()/free() buffer allocations.


Frank,

But GEOS user does not know what allocator is hidden behind 
GEOSGeomToWKT function and he does *not* need or want to know.


GEOSFree exposes all the meat that is supposed be encapsulated
and it makes GEOS C API not symmetric so confusing.

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Re: [geos-devel] GEOS cross-heap problems

2009-05-13 Thread Sean Gillies


On May 13, 2009, at 7:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote:


Frank Warmerdam wrote:

strk wrote:

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:19:23AM -0400, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
Only, it'll have to stay (I've read Mateusz suggesting using
type-specific destroyers).

I cannot imagine why a type specific destroyer would be needed
for simple malloc()/free() buffer allocations.


Frank,

But GEOS user does not know what allocator is hidden behind  
GEOSGeomToWKT function and he does *not* need or want to know.


GEOSFree exposes all the meat that is supposed be encapsulated
and it makes GEOS C API not symmetric so confusing.


Aren't we supposed to be using the reader/writer API now? Add  
GEOSWK*Writer_Free functions (if we must) to those interfaces and  
GEOSFree to address the problem with deprecated GeomToWKT?


Cheers,
Sean

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Re: [geos-devel] GEOS cross-heap problems

2009-05-13 Thread Frank Warmerdam

Sean Gillies wrote:


On May 13, 2009, at 7:42 AM, Mateusz Loskot wrote:


Frank Warmerdam wrote:

strk wrote:

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 12:19:23AM -0400, Frank Warmerdam wrote:
Only, it'll have to stay (I've read Mateusz suggesting using
type-specific destroyers).

I cannot imagine why a type specific destroyer would be needed
for simple malloc()/free() buffer allocations.


Frank,

But GEOS user does not know what allocator is hidden behind 
GEOSGeomToWKT function and he does *not* need or want to know.


GEOSFree exposes all the meat that is supposed be encapsulated
and it makes GEOS C API not symmetric so confusing.


Aren't we supposed to be using the reader/writer API now? Add 
GEOSWK*Writer_Free functions (if we must) to those interfaces and 
GEOSFree to address the problem with deprecated GeomToWKT?


Sean / Mateusz,

It is my personal opinion that since these buffers are just allocated
from the heap with malloc(), exposing a GEOS specific free - and making
it clear when it is suitable to use is a more than adequate solution.

If you guys feel strongly enough about type specific, or reader/writer
interface specific deallocators for these buffers then I'd suggest you
bring it to a motion to replace/override my implementation and I'll
then adapt GDAL appropriately.

I'm in a bad mood, and less receptive than normal to esoteric conceptual
correctness wanking.

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