Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2017-01-09 Thread Andrea Aime
Ok, ready for review here: https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/pull/2048

Cheers
Andrea

On Wed, Jan 4, 2017 at 1:42 AM, Jody Garnett  wrote:

> Thanks Kevin.
>
> I have updated https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-153 with
> the table of responsibilities for each layer group mode.
>
> We could not come up with any good alternate wording, please proceed.
>
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> On 3 January 2017 at 16:04, Kevin Smith  wrote:
>
>> On 17-01-03 10:30 AM, Kevin Smith wrote:
>> > I agree both that "opaque container" is a bit ugly and potentially
>> > confusing and that "basemap" is too specific.  Maybe a "flat group"?
>>
>> Jody and I just talked this over and I withdraw "flat group". My new
>> suggestion is "Restricted Single" which isn't great but is consistent
>> with "single" meaning it does not show it's children while "trees" do.
>> Jody likes "Container" which again avoids "tree" although I dislike that
>> it is inconsistent with how "container" is used in "Container Tree"
>> because a container tree is not a named layer.
>>
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2017-01-03 Thread Jody Garnett
Thanks Kevin.

I have updated https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-153 with
the table of responsibilities for each layer group mode.

We could not come up with any good alternate wording, please proceed.

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On 3 January 2017 at 16:04, Kevin Smith  wrote:

> On 17-01-03 10:30 AM, Kevin Smith wrote:
> > I agree both that "opaque container" is a bit ugly and potentially
> > confusing and that "basemap" is too specific.  Maybe a "flat group"?
>
> Jody and I just talked this over and I withdraw "flat group". My new
> suggestion is "Restricted Single" which isn't great but is consistent
> with "single" meaning it does not show it's children while "trees" do.
> Jody likes "Container" which again avoids "tree" although I dislike that
> it is inconsistent with how "container" is used in "Container Tree"
> because a container tree is not a named layer.
>
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2017-01-03 Thread Kevin Smith
On 17-01-03 10:30 AM, Kevin Smith wrote:
> I agree both that "opaque container" is a bit ugly and potentially
> confusing and that "basemap" is too specific.  Maybe a "flat group"? 

Jody and I just talked this over and I withdraw "flat group". My new
suggestion is "Restricted Single" which isn't great but is consistent
with "single" meaning it does not show it's children while "trees" do. 
Jody likes "Container" which again avoids "tree" although I dislike that
it is inconsistent with how "container" is used in "Container Tree"
because a container tree is not a named layer.

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2017-01-03 Thread Kevin Smith
On 16-12-28 12:10 PM, Andrea Aime wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 1:07 AM, Mike Pumphrey  > wrote:
>
> I know I'm non-voting, but I agree with Jody's point here. Also,
> to my mind, "opaque container" is better realized as "black box"
> (fewer syllables too).
>
> But I think "basemap" might get more to the heart of how it would
> be used.
>

> If I can share my non binding opinion (I honestly don't care much),
> basemap seems to be a bit specific,
> while it's a legit use case of the functionality, one could also have
> a group that cannot be broken up
> in component parts meant to be used as an overlay (thus, no basemap).
>
I agree both that "opaque container" is a bit ugly and potentially
confusing and that "basemap" is too specific.  Maybe a "flat group"? 

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2016-12-28 Thread Andrea Aime
On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Ben Caradoc-Davies 
wrote:

> Andrea,
>
> Jody and I brainstormed GSIP-153 in today's (very small) committee
> meeting. In a nutshell, have you considered a single layer group class with
> many properties, rather than multiple classes of layer group? Jody made a
> nice table and we listed the properties in bullet points. We also discussed
> some naming changes. Please see the meeting notes.
>

I'm quite baffled and disconcerted... some chronology:

   - December 15th, initial discussion on the concept.
   
http://osgeo-org.1560.x6.nabble.com/Proposing-a-new-layer-group-type-why-make-do-with-4-when-you-can-have-5-td5299963.html
   Only feedback from Ben, who agrees on the concept and suggest to write a
   proposal. I wait a few days for people to provide feedback to inform the
   proposal (to avoid rewriting it), no feedback, time to move on.
   - December 19th, proposal in, by Dec 23rd there are more than enough
   votes, and one trivial request for name change (no problem there)

Given the lack of objections on both the mail and the proposal I start the
implementation on Dec 21th, the implementation is now basically ready
(still have to debug and fix some kinks):
https://github.com/aaime/geoserver/tree/lg_opaque_container

By a quick glance over the discussion in the other mail it seems that
actually:

   - You did not bother reading the first mail, or did not understand it
   - You did not bother reading/understanding or discussing the proposal
   (you'd not have questions now otherwise)

So what are the +1 you casted on the proposal worth?
The proposal mechanism, when it works, provides several beneficial
guarantees:

   - The community has a say on what gets implemented
   - The community has insurance that the work is resources and will be
   completed
   - The implementers knows they won't have to redo the design of their
   work from the ground up once the proposal is voted

The community has been given two occasions to discuss and bend the
proposal, and none was exploited. I'll now try to have a look at it, but my
budget is gone in the existing implementation (still only have a bit to
handle review comments). Would it be wrong of me to expect not simply
discussion but also coding and documentation help from those that changed
their mind now?

I'd really urge everybody to think _before_ casting a vote, not after doing
so. If you are unsure, it's also ok to ask for some time to think, just say
so in public.
If this case is an exception, well, that happens, but if it becomes common,
the proposal mechanism is basically dead and done for.

Cheers
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2016-12-27 Thread Mike Pumphrey
I know I'm non-voting, but I agree with Jody's point here. Also, to my 
mind, "opaque container" is better realized as "black box" (fewer 
syllables too).

But I think "basemap" might get more to the heart of how it would be used.

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On 12/22/2016 3:21 PM, Jody Garnett wrote:
> Reading now, tripping up over the naming "*Opaque Container".*
>
> I usually think of the word opaque as the opposite of transparent.
>
> The main difference in our naming seems to between "single" and "tree".
> This new layer group type is behaving like a single layer, we just wish the
> contained layers were "nameless" and. It available for direct access.
>
> Could I suggest calling this my its purpose "basemap" or "single basemap".
>
> What is getting me here is what to call the layers that compose the
> "basemap" that are unlisted in the capabilities document. It feels like
> adding them to a "basemap" changes their default behaviour to unadvertised.
> Is this the case or am I reading the proposal wrong?
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:49 AM Andrea Aime 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I've follow up with the previous discussion on layer tree modes and wrote
>> this proposal:
>>
>> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-153
>>
>> As suggested by Ben I've summarized the existing group behavior for
>> current layer groups,
>> in protected and non protected mode.
>>
>> Please vote/discuss
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2016-12-27 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
Andrea,

Jody and I brainstormed GSIP-153 in today's (very small) committee 
meeting. In a nutshell, have you considered a single layer group class 
with many properties, rather than multiple classes of layer group? Jody 
made a nice table and we listed the properties in bullet points. We also 
discussed some naming changes. Please see the meeting notes.

Kind regards,
Ben.

On 23/12/16 12:21, Jody Garnett wrote:
> Reading now, tripping up over the naming "*Opaque Container".*
>
> I usually think of the word opaque as the opposite of transparent.
>
> The main difference in our naming seems to between "single" and "tree".
> This new layer group type is behaving like a single layer, we just wish the
> contained layers were "nameless" and. It available for direct access.
>
> Could I suggest calling this my its purpose "basemap" or "single basemap".
>
> What is getting me here is what to call the layers that compose the
> "basemap" that are unlisted in the capabilities document. It feels like
> adding them to a "basemap" changes their default behaviour to unadvertised.
> Is this the case or am I reading the proposal wrong?
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:49 AM Andrea Aime 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I've follow up with the previous discussion on layer tree modes and wrote
>> this proposal:
>>
>> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-153
>>
>> As suggested by Ben I've summarized the existing group behavior for
>> current layer groups,
>> in protected and non protected mode.
>>
>> Please vote/discuss
>>
>> Cheers
>> Andrea
>>
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2016-12-23 Thread Christian Mueller
Added my +1 on the proposal

Cheers

On Fri, Dec 23, 2016 at 2:28 AM, Jody Garnett 
wrote:

> +1 on the proposal
>
> "single basemap" is an alternate for "opaque container" if you are
> interested.
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:21 PM Jody Garnett 
> wrote:
>
>> Reading now, tripping up over the naming "*Opaque Container".*
>>
>> I usually think of the word opaque as the opposite of transparent.
>>
>> The main difference in our naming seems to between "single" and "tree".
>> This new layer group type is behaving like a single layer, we just wish the
>> contained layers were "nameless" and. It available for direct access.
>>
>> Could I suggest calling this my its purpose "basemap" or "single
>> basemap".
>>
>> What is getting me here is what to call the layers that compose the
>> "basemap" that are unlisted in the capabilities document. It feels like
>> adding them to a "basemap" changes their default behaviour to unadvertised.
>> Is this the case or am I reading the proposal wrong?
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:49 AM Andrea Aime 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I've follow up with the previous discussion on layer tree modes and
>>> wrote this proposal:
>>>
>>> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-153
>>>
>>> As suggested by Ben I've summarized the existing group behavior for
>>> current layer groups,
>>> in protected and non protected mode.
>>>
>>> Please vote/discuss
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Andrea
>>>
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2016-12-22 Thread Jody Garnett
+1 on the proposal

"single basemap" is an alternate for "opaque container" if you are
interested.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 3:21 PM Jody Garnett  wrote:

> Reading now, tripping up over the naming "*Opaque Container".*
>
> I usually think of the word opaque as the opposite of transparent.
>
> The main difference in our naming seems to between "single" and "tree".
> This new layer group type is behaving like a single layer, we just wish the
> contained layers were "nameless" and. It available for direct access.
>
> Could I suggest calling this my its purpose "basemap" or "single basemap".
>
> What is getting me here is what to call the layers that compose the
> "basemap" that are unlisted in the capabilities document. It feels like
> adding them to a "basemap" changes their default behaviour to unadvertised.
> Is this the case or am I reading the proposal wrong?
>
> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:49 AM Andrea Aime 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I've follow up with the previous discussion on layer tree modes and wrote
>> this proposal:
>>
>> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-153
>>
>> As suggested by Ben I've summarized the existing group behavior for
>> current layer groups,
>> in protected and non protected mode.
>>
>> Please vote/discuss
>>
>> Cheers
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2016-12-22 Thread Jody Garnett
Reading now, tripping up over the naming "*Opaque Container".*

I usually think of the word opaque as the opposite of transparent.

The main difference in our naming seems to between "single" and "tree".
This new layer group type is behaving like a single layer, we just wish the
contained layers were "nameless" and. It available for direct access.

Could I suggest calling this my its purpose "basemap" or "single basemap".

What is getting me here is what to call the layers that compose the
"basemap" that are unlisted in the capabilities document. It feels like
adding them to a "basemap" changes their default behaviour to unadvertised.
Is this the case or am I reading the proposal wrong?

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 2:49 AM Andrea Aime 
wrote:

> Hi,
> I've follow up with the previous discussion on layer tree modes and wrote
> this proposal:
>
> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-153
>
> As suggested by Ben I've summarized the existing group behavior for
> current layer groups,
> in protected and non protected mode.
>
> Please vote/discuss
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2016-12-21 Thread Kevin Smith
On 2016-12-19 02:47 AM, Andrea Aime wrote:
> Hi,
> I've follow up with the previous discussion on layer tree modes and
> wrote this proposal:
>
> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-153
>
> As suggested by Ben I've summarized the existing group behavior for
> current layer groups,
> in protected and non protected mode.
>
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2016-12-21 Thread Ben Caradoc-Davies
+1.

On 19/12/16 23:47, Andrea Aime wrote:
> Hi,
> I've follow up with the previous discussion on layer tree modes and wrote
> this proposal:
>
> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-153
>
> As suggested by Ben I've summarized the existing group behavior for current
> layer groups,
> in protected and non protected mode.
>
> Please vote/discuss
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
>
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2016-12-20 Thread Alessio Fabiani
+1 for me too. I think it would be useful, considering also past email
threads on ml.

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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2016-12-20 Thread Simone Giannecchini
+1,
but I'd like to hear the others as well.

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 wrote:
> Hi,
> I've follow up with the previous discussion on layer tree modes and wrote
> this proposal:
>
> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-153
>
> As suggested by Ben I've summarized the existing group behavior for current
> layer groups,
> in protected and non protected mode.
>
> Please vote/discuss
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
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Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2016-12-20 Thread Andrea Aime
Ah hem... anyone? :-)

Cheers
Andrea

On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:47 AM, Andrea Aime 
wrote:

> Hi,
> I've follow up with the previous discussion on layer tree modes and wrote
> this proposal:
>
> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-153
>
> As suggested by Ben I've summarized the existing group behavior for
> current layer groups,
> in protected and non protected mode.
>
> Please vote/discuss
>
> Cheers
> Andrea
>
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[Geoserver-devel] GSIP 153 - opaque container layer group mode

2016-12-19 Thread Andrea Aime
Hi,
I've follow up with the previous discussion on layer tree modes and wrote
this proposal:

https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-153

As suggested by Ben I've summarized the existing group behavior for current
layer groups,
in protected and non protected mode.

Please vote/discuss

Cheers
Andrea

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