Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
+1 Cheers, Torben On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 9:20 AM Ian Turton wrote: > +1 > > Ian > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 at 13:51, Andrea Aime > wrote: > >> +1 (vote already added to the wiki page) >> >> Cheers >> Andrea >> >> On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 2:45 PM wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> >>> >>> It was suggested that in order to get this module tested on a nightly >>> basis, it might be worthwhile doing the work to promote it to an extension. >>> >>> >>> >>> Now I’m willing to do the work, with a little bit of guidance, so I >>> wrote up a GSIP about it over here: >>> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-200 >>> >>> >>> >>> We recently committed some tests and bug fixes, Javadoc formatting and >>> viewer/preview improvements, which although they aren’t complete (73% >>> coverage, 49% branch coverage), I intend to improve them as the >>> functionality of the module improves. >>> >>> >>> >>> Please consider this request and vote on it, if you think it ready for >>> that, and send any feedback to me. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Pete Rushforth >>> ___ >>> Geoserver-devel mailing list >>> Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >>> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Regards, Andrea Aime >> >> == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit >> http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. == Ing. Andrea Aime @geowolf >> Technical Lead GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa >> (LU) phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 339 8844549 >> http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it >> --- *Con riferimento >> alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - >> Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni >> circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali >> allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i >> destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per >> errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le >> sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended >> only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain >> information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from >> disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 >> “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information >> herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you >> have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by >> telephone or e-mail.* >> ___ >> Geoserver-devel mailing list >> Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel >> > > > -- > Ian Turton > ___ > Geoserver-devel mailing list > Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel > ___ Geoserver-devel mailing list Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel
Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
+0 Il giorno ven 19 feb 2021 alle ore 16:01 Nuno Oliveira < nuno.olive...@geo-solutions.it> ha scritto: > +1 > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 2:15 PM Rahkonen Jukka (MML) < > jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: > >> +1 >> >> >> >> -Jukka Rahkonen- >> >> >> >> *Lähettäjä:* peter.rushfo...@gmail.com >> *Lähetetty:* perjantai 19. helmikuuta 2021 15.43 >> *Vastaanottaja:* geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> *Aihe:* [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension >> >> >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> It was suggested that in order to get this module tested on a nightly >> basis, it might be worthwhile doing the work to promote it to an extension. >> >> >> >> Now I’m willing to do the work, with a little bit of guidance, so I wrote >> up a GSIP about it over here: >> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-200 >> >> >> >> We recently committed some tests and bug fixes, Javadoc formatting and >> viewer/preview improvements, which although they aren’t complete (73% >> coverage, 49% branch coverage), I intend to improve them as the >> functionality of the module improves. >> >> >> >> Please consider this request and vote on it, if you think it ready for >> that, and send any feedback to me. >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> Pete Rushforth >> ___ >> Geoserver-devel mailing list >> Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel >> > > > -- > Regards, > Nuno Oliveira > == > GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! > Visit http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. > == > > Nuno Miguel Carvalho Oliveira > @nmcoliveira > Software Engineer > > GeoSolutions S.A.S. > Via di Montramito 3/A > 55054 Massarosa (LU) > Italy > phone: +39 0584 962313 > fax: +39 0584 1660272 > > http://www.geo-solutions.it > http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it > > --- > > Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati > personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla > protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni > circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, > gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza > è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo > scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è > tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. > Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. > > This email is intended only for the person or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain information that > is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from > disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European > Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or > use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone > other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify > us immediately by telephone or e-mail. > ___ > Geoserver-devel mailing list > Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel > -- == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. == Ing. Alessio Fabiani @alfa7691 Founder/Technical Lead GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A - 55054 Massarosa (LU) - Italy phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 331 6233686 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it --- Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail. ___ Geoserver-devel mailing list Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel
Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
+1 Ian On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 at 13:51, Andrea Aime wrote: > +1 (vote already added to the wiki page) > > Cheers > Andrea > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 2:45 PM wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> It was suggested that in order to get this module tested on a nightly >> basis, it might be worthwhile doing the work to promote it to an extension. >> >> >> >> Now I’m willing to do the work, with a little bit of guidance, so I wrote >> up a GSIP about it over here: >> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-200 >> >> >> >> We recently committed some tests and bug fixes, Javadoc formatting and >> viewer/preview improvements, which although they aren’t complete (73% >> coverage, 49% branch coverage), I intend to improve them as the >> functionality of the module improves. >> >> >> >> Please consider this request and vote on it, if you think it ready for >> that, and send any feedback to me. >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> Pete Rushforth >> ___ >> Geoserver-devel mailing list >> Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel >> > > > -- > > Regards, Andrea Aime > > == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit > http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. == Ing. Andrea Aime @geowolf > Technical Lead GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa > (LU) phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 339 8844549 > http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it > --- *Con riferimento > alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - > Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni > circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali > allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i > destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per > errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le > sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended > only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain > information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from > disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 > “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information > herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by > telephone or e-mail.* > ___ > Geoserver-devel mailing list > Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel > -- Ian Turton ___ Geoserver-devel mailing list Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel
Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
Hi Simone, > note that my +0 is equal to a go, so I am not going to block you. > I am just trying to make everybody remember that the "official extension" > label shall be used for something that is: > - quite stable > - with a significant user base Very much understood and appreciated. > So I am happy to have you move on with this proposal :) That’s great, thank you. Working on it! Cheers, Peter From: Simone Giannecchini Sent: February 19, 2021 10:58 AM To: Peter Rushforth Cc: Jody Garnett ; GeoServer Subject: Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension Hi Peter, note that my +0 is equal to a go, so I am not going to block you. I am just trying to make everybody remember that the "official extension" label shall be used for something that is: - quite stable - with a significant user base Did we always enforce this? Definitely not. Am I asking to enforce this now? No. So I am happy to have you move on with this proposal :) Regards, Simone Giannecchini == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://bit.ly/gs-services for more information. == Ing. Simone Giannecchini @simogeo Founder/Director GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa (LU) Italy phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 333 8128928 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it --- Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail. On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 4:24 PM mailto:peter.rushfo...@gmail.com> > wrote: Thanks for this note. > I like the enthusiasm and I am sure there will be a follow up effort to > maintain the extension. Yes. > I have doubts that the module itself is stable enough and has significant > users so this is not a +1. Fair. I forgot to mention that the Canadian Forest Service who thought it would be a good idea to implement MapML in GeoServer. I believe they are a GeoServer user for production use, so the closer I can get this to production quality the more likely they are to use it. Probably true for others as well – a chicken and egg problem. > the risk is to go down the "because I need it" route. The objective of the MapML / Maps for HTML initiative is to get map semantics implemented in HTML, so that a) better, longer-lived mapping applications can be developed on top of a standard base b) user accessibility of maps and map content is provided via a standard. The intention of this module is to lead and track the effort to attain this level of standardization. So right now, I probably don’t actually want too many users. We don’t want to “burn” people with changes to the API, and we would like them to be on board with driving what those changes might be, and to welcome them because they represent steps toward the overall project goal. Success for the overall project will could almost be signified by removal of this module, although such removal would probably be implemented by integration of the module semantics into core, but anyway, at that time maps should be part of HTML and so on, and custom element or other JavaScript clients won’t be needed to view a map in a web browser. All in all, I see your point, but still would like to do the work to make the code fitter and more functional, so that people who do use it don’t regret it. Thank you, Peter Rushforth From: Simone Giannecchini mailto:simone.giannecch...@geo-solutions.it> > Sent: February 19, 2021 9:09 AM To: Jody Garnett mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com> > Cc: Peter Rushforth mailto:peter.rushfo...@gmail.com> >; GeoServer mailto:geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > Subject: Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension +0 I like the enthusiasm and I am sure there will be a follow up effort to maintain the extension. I have doubts that the module itse
Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
Hi Peter, note that my +0 is equal to a go, so I am not going to block you. I am just trying to make everybody remember that the "official extension" label shall be used for something that is: - quite stable - with a significant user base Did we always enforce this? Definitely not. Am I asking to enforce this now? No. So I am happy to have you move on with this proposal :) Regards, Simone Giannecchini == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://bit.ly/gs-services for more information. == Ing. Simone Giannecchini @simogeo Founder/Director GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa (LU) Italy phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 333 8128928 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it --- Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail. On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 4:24 PM wrote: > Thanks for this note. > > > > > I like the enthusiasm and I am sure there will be a follow up effort to > maintain the extension. > > > > Yes. > > > > > I have doubts that the module itself is stable enough and has > significant users so this is not a +1. > > > > Fair. I forgot to mention that the Canadian Forest Service who thought it > would be a good idea to implement MapML in GeoServer. I believe they are a > GeoServer user for production use, so the closer I can get this to > production quality the more likely they are to use it. Probably true for > others as well – a chicken and egg problem. > > > > > the risk is to go down the "because I need it" route. > > > > The objective of the MapML / Maps for HTML initiative is to get map > semantics implemented in HTML, so that a) better, longer-lived mapping > applications can be developed on top of a standard base b) user > accessibility of maps and map content is provided via a standard. The > intention of this module is to lead and track the effort to attain this > level of standardization. So right now, I probably don’t actually want too > many users. We don’t want to “burn” people with changes to the API, and we > would like them to be on board with driving what those changes might be, > and to welcome them because they represent steps toward the overall project > goal. > > > > Success for the overall project will could almost be signified by removal > of this module, although such removal would probably be implemented by > integration of the module semantics into core, but anyway, at that time > maps should be part of HTML and so on, and custom element or other > JavaScript clients won’t be needed to view a map in a web browser. > > > > All in all, I see your point, but still would like to do the work to make > the code fitter and more functional, so that people who do use it don’t > regret it. > > > > Thank you, > > Peter Rushforth > > > > > > *From:* Simone Giannecchini > *Sent:* February 19, 2021 9:09 AM > *To:* Jody Garnett > *Cc:* Peter Rushforth ; GeoServer < > geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> > *Subject:* Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension > > > > +0 > > I like the enthusiasm and I am sure there will be a follow up effort to > maintain the extension. > > > > I have doubts that the module itself is stable enough and has significant > users so this is not a +1. > > I was inclined to vote 0 because, because I am reluctant to lower the bar > on the requirements above which I believe are as important as good code and > an active maintainer; the risk is to go down the "because I need it" route. > > However, we are not talking about adding anything to core so I am happy to > see this going forward. > > > > Regards, > Simone Giannecchini > == > GeoServer Professional
Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
> The documentation of the MapML module should clearly state that the standard > is still ongoing evolution and breaking changes might happen in the future. A warning block at the very beginning of the docs should do :D Sounds good, I’ll do it. Cheers, Peter From: Andrea Aime Sent: February 19, 2021 10:50 AM To: Peter Rushforth Cc: Simone Giannecchini ; Jody Garnett ; GeoServer Subject: Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 4:26 PM mailto:peter.rushfo...@gmail.com> > wrote: The objective of the MapML / Maps for HTML initiative is to get map semantics implemented in HTML, so that a) better, longer-lived mapping applications can be developed on top of a standard base b) user accessibility of maps and map content is provided via a standard. The intention of this module is to lead and track the effort to attain this level of standardization. So right now, I probably don’t actually want too many users. We don’t want to “burn” people with changes to the API, and we would like them to be on board with driving what those changes might be, and to welcome them because they represent steps toward the overall project goal. That's an important point, at least to me. We try to preserve backwards compatibility as much as possible in GeoServer, upgrades should be transparent (yes, not always possible, unintended side effects of other changes are possible and all that). The documentation of the MapML module should clearly state that the standard is still ongoing evolution and breaking changes might happen in the future. A warning block at the very beginning of the docs should do :D Cheers Andrea == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. == Ing. Andrea Aime @geowolf Technical Lead GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa (LU) phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 339 8844549 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it --- Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail. ___ Geoserver-devel mailing list Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel
Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 4:26 PM wrote: > The objective of the MapML / Maps for HTML initiative is to get map > semantics implemented in HTML, so that a) better, longer-lived mapping > applications can be developed on top of a standard base b) user > accessibility of maps and map content is provided via a standard. The > intention of this module is to lead and track the effort to attain this > level of standardization. So right now, I probably don’t actually want too > many users. We don’t want to “burn” people with changes to the API, and we > would like them to be on board with driving what those changes might be, > and to welcome them because they represent steps toward the overall project > goal. > That's an important point, at least to me. We try to preserve backwards compatibility as much as possible in GeoServer, upgrades should be transparent (yes, not always possible, unintended side effects of other changes are possible and all that). The documentation of the MapML module should clearly state that the standard is still ongoing evolution and breaking changes might happen in the future. A warning block at the very beginning of the docs should do :D Cheers Andrea == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. == Ing. Andrea Aime @geowolf Technical Lead GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa (LU) phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 339 8844549 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it --- *Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail.* ___ Geoserver-devel mailing list Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel
Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
Thanks for this note. > I like the enthusiasm and I am sure there will be a follow up effort to > maintain the extension. Yes. > I have doubts that the module itself is stable enough and has significant > users so this is not a +1. Fair. I forgot to mention that the Canadian Forest Service who thought it would be a good idea to implement MapML in GeoServer. I believe they are a GeoServer user for production use, so the closer I can get this to production quality the more likely they are to use it. Probably true for others as well – a chicken and egg problem. > the risk is to go down the "because I need it" route. The objective of the MapML / Maps for HTML initiative is to get map semantics implemented in HTML, so that a) better, longer-lived mapping applications can be developed on top of a standard base b) user accessibility of maps and map content is provided via a standard. The intention of this module is to lead and track the effort to attain this level of standardization. So right now, I probably don’t actually want too many users. We don’t want to “burn” people with changes to the API, and we would like them to be on board with driving what those changes might be, and to welcome them because they represent steps toward the overall project goal. Success for the overall project will could almost be signified by removal of this module, although such removal would probably be implemented by integration of the module semantics into core, but anyway, at that time maps should be part of HTML and so on, and custom element or other JavaScript clients won’t be needed to view a map in a web browser. All in all, I see your point, but still would like to do the work to make the code fitter and more functional, so that people who do use it don’t regret it. Thank you, Peter Rushforth From: Simone Giannecchini Sent: February 19, 2021 9:09 AM To: Jody Garnett Cc: Peter Rushforth ; GeoServer Subject: Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension +0 I like the enthusiasm and I am sure there will be a follow up effort to maintain the extension. I have doubts that the module itself is stable enough and has significant users so this is not a +1. I was inclined to vote 0 because, because I am reluctant to lower the bar on the requirements above which I believe are as important as good code and an active maintainer; the risk is to go down the "because I need it" route. However, we are not talking about adding anything to core so I am happy to see this going forward. Regards, Simone Giannecchini == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://bit.ly/gs-services for more information. == Ing. Simone Giannecchini @simogeo Founder/Director GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa (LU) Italy phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 333 8128928 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it --- Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail. On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 2:58 PM Jody Garnett mailto:jody.garn...@gmail.com> > wrote: +1 That looks great, I especially like the documentation and that the module includes a layer preview showing the functionality. -- Jody Garnett On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 at 05:43, mailto:peter.rushfo...@gmail.com> > wrote: Hi, It was suggested that in order to get this module tested on a nightly basis, it might be worthwhile doing the work to promote it to an extension. Now I’m willing to do the work, with a little bit of guidance, so I wrote up a GSIP about it over here: https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-200 We recently committed some tests and bug fixes, Javadoc formatting and viewer/preview improvements, which although they aren’t complete (73% coverage, 49% branch coverage), I intend to improve them as the functionality of the module improves. Please consid
Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
+1 On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 2:15 PM Rahkonen Jukka (MML) < jukka.rahko...@maanmittauslaitos.fi> wrote: > +1 > > > > -Jukka Rahkonen- > > > > *Lähettäjä:* peter.rushfo...@gmail.com > *Lähetetty:* perjantai 19. helmikuuta 2021 15.43 > *Vastaanottaja:* geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > *Aihe:* [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension > > > > Hi, > > > > It was suggested that in order to get this module tested on a nightly > basis, it might be worthwhile doing the work to promote it to an extension. > > > > Now I’m willing to do the work, with a little bit of guidance, so I wrote > up a GSIP about it over here: > https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-200 > > > > We recently committed some tests and bug fixes, Javadoc formatting and > viewer/preview improvements, which although they aren’t complete (73% > coverage, 49% branch coverage), I intend to improve them as the > functionality of the module improves. > > > > Please consider this request and vote on it, if you think it ready for > that, and send any feedback to me. > > > > Thank you. > > Pete Rushforth > ___ > Geoserver-devel mailing list > Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel > -- Regards, Nuno Oliveira == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. == Nuno Miguel Carvalho Oliveira @nmcoliveira Software Engineer GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa (LU) Italy phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it --- Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail. ___ Geoserver-devel mailing list Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel
Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
+1 -Jukka Rahkonen- Lähettäjä: peter.rushfo...@gmail.com Lähetetty: perjantai 19. helmikuuta 2021 15.43 Vastaanottaja: geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Aihe: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension Hi, It was suggested that in order to get this module tested on a nightly basis, it might be worthwhile doing the work to promote it to an extension. Now I'm willing to do the work, with a little bit of guidance, so I wrote up a GSIP about it over here: https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-200 We recently committed some tests and bug fixes, Javadoc formatting and viewer/preview improvements, which although they aren't complete (73% coverage, 49% branch coverage), I intend to improve them as the functionality of the module improves. Please consider this request and vote on it, if you think it ready for that, and send any feedback to me. Thank you. Pete Rushforth ___ Geoserver-devel mailing list Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel
Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
+0 I like the enthusiasm and I am sure there will be a follow up effort to maintain the extension. I have doubts that the module itself is stable enough and has significant users so this is not a +1. I was inclined to vote 0 because, because I am reluctant to lower the bar on the requirements above which I believe are as important as good code and an active maintainer; the risk is to go down the "because I need it" route. However, we are not talking about adding anything to core so I am happy to see this going forward. Regards, Simone Giannecchini == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://bit.ly/gs-services for more information. == Ing. Simone Giannecchini @simogeo Founder/Director GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa (LU) Italy phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 333 8128928 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it --- Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail. On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 2:58 PM Jody Garnett wrote: > +1 That looks great, I especially like the documentation and that the > module includes a layer preview showing the functionality. > -- > Jody Garnett > > > On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 at 05:43, wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> It was suggested that in order to get this module tested on a nightly >> basis, it might be worthwhile doing the work to promote it to an extension. >> >> >> >> Now I’m willing to do the work, with a little bit of guidance, so I wrote >> up a GSIP about it over here: >> https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-200 >> >> >> >> We recently committed some tests and bug fixes, Javadoc formatting and >> viewer/preview improvements, which although they aren’t complete (73% >> coverage, 49% branch coverage), I intend to improve them as the >> functionality of the module improves. >> >> >> >> Please consider this request and vote on it, if you think it ready for >> that, and send any feedback to me. >> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> Pete Rushforth >> ___ >> Geoserver-devel mailing list >> Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel >> > ___ > Geoserver-devel mailing list > Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel > ___ Geoserver-devel mailing list Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel
Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
+1 That looks great, I especially like the documentation and that the module includes a layer preview showing the functionality. -- Jody Garnett On Fri, 19 Feb 2021 at 05:43, wrote: > Hi, > > > > It was suggested that in order to get this module tested on a nightly > basis, it might be worthwhile doing the work to promote it to an extension. > > > > Now I’m willing to do the work, with a little bit of guidance, so I wrote > up a GSIP about it over here: > https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-200 > > > > We recently committed some tests and bug fixes, Javadoc formatting and > viewer/preview improvements, which although they aren’t complete (73% > coverage, 49% branch coverage), I intend to improve them as the > functionality of the module improves. > > > > Please consider this request and vote on it, if you think it ready for > that, and send any feedback to me. > > > > Thank you. > > Pete Rushforth > ___ > Geoserver-devel mailing list > Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel > ___ Geoserver-devel mailing list Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel
Re: [Geoserver-devel] GSIP 200 Promote MapML to extension
+1 (vote already added to the wiki page) Cheers Andrea On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 2:45 PM wrote: > Hi, > > > > It was suggested that in order to get this module tested on a nightly > basis, it might be worthwhile doing the work to promote it to an extension. > > > > Now I’m willing to do the work, with a little bit of guidance, so I wrote > up a GSIP about it over here: > https://github.com/geoserver/geoserver/wiki/GSIP-200 > > > > We recently committed some tests and bug fixes, Javadoc formatting and > viewer/preview improvements, which although they aren’t complete (73% > coverage, 49% branch coverage), I intend to improve them as the > functionality of the module improves. > > > > Please consider this request and vote on it, if you think it ready for > that, and send any feedback to me. > > > > Thank you. > > Pete Rushforth > ___ > Geoserver-devel mailing list > Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel > -- Regards, Andrea Aime == GeoServer Professional Services from the experts! Visit http://goo.gl/it488V for more information. == Ing. Andrea Aime @geowolf Technical Lead GeoSolutions S.A.S. Via di Montramito 3/A 55054 Massarosa (LU) phone: +39 0584 962313 fax: +39 0584 1660272 mob: +39 339 8844549 http://www.geo-solutions.it http://twitter.com/geosolutions_it --- *Con riferimento alla normativa sul trattamento dei dati personali (Reg. UE 2016/679 - Regolamento generale sulla protezione dei dati “GDPR”), si precisa che ogni circostanza inerente alla presente email (il suo contenuto, gli eventuali allegati, etc.) è un dato la cui conoscenza è riservata al/i solo/i destinatario/i indicati dallo scrivente. Se il messaggio Le è giunto per errore, è tenuta/o a cancellarlo, ogni altra operazione è illecita. Le sarei comunque grato se potesse darmene notizia. This email is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential or otherwise protected from disclosure. We remind that - as provided by European Regulation 2016/679 “GDPR” - copying, dissemination or use of this e-mail or the information herein by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this email by mistake, please notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail.* ___ Geoserver-devel mailing list Geoserver-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/geoserver-devel
