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Hello everyone, My gerbil had babies in february and i had no idea that she had babies. Basically i need to give away some of my babies, i have six baby female gerbils. they are about three months old and i would be glad to give them to any of you who will care for them. i live in toronto, ontario (canada), so if anyone is close to me and wants one or more of my grey female gerbils please email me direcly at [EMAIL PROTECTED], or [EMAIL PROTECTED]. Thanks alot, Jennifer M. Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here
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Hello,I have a simple question. Today (saturday)I bought a gerbil but theperson didn't tell me that you should get two. SoI did not no untilI got home. IfI were to get another one on monday from the same pet store would they fight. Also we think it is a girl, would they fight? Thank you, Katelyn Noakes
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My baby gerbils are 12 days old but I won't be able to see them again until they are 14 dyas old. Will I still be able to tell if the gerbils are boys or girls at that age? Thanks, Kirsi Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here
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Our two females do this also (just yesterday in fact). It seems to be connected to their heat cycle. The one who is in heat will mount the one who is not. They basically seem to have PMS. They will appear to be having a conflict of personallities for about a day (can't stand to sleep next to each other, more mock fighting etc.) and then (ususally by nighttime) they are best friends again and cuddle up for the evening. I think the longest this behavior has lasted is about a 1.5 days. We can tell when one of our girls is in heat by rubbing along their back. If they are in heat, they will bow their tail/rump up toward your hand. They sometimes like/ respond well to a light back-rub/massage when being held during that time. I hope this helps. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [GML] (no subject) Date: Sat, 2 Feb 2002 18:38:35 EST I've had two female gerbils together since June 8th, 2001. Just today I noticed the bigger one chasing the smaller one around their tank. Then the bigger one would climb on top of the smaller one and they'd freeze like that, then the smaller one would run away. But if the smaller one tried to do this to the bigger one; the bigger one would flip over to knock her off. This kept going on untill I would move and then they'd act normal, but as soon as I walked away from the tank they'd start it again. I have no idea what they're doing, so could someone tell me what's going on. Thanks, Caroline Make sure you are familar with the GML Charter at: http://www.igf.org.uk/gml/charter.htm Any questions? Visit the GML FAQ at: http://www.igf.org.uk/gml/gmlfaq.htm ==^ This email was sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] EASY UNSUBSCRIBE click here: http://topica.com/u/?a2iXok.a3m5r9 Or send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] T O P I C A -- Register now to manage your mail! http://www.topica.com/partner/tag02/register ==^ _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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I've had two female gerbils together since June 8th, 2001. Just today I noticed the bigger one chasing the smaller one around their tank. Then the bigger one would climb on top of the smaller one and they'd freeze like that, then the smaller one would run away. But if the smaller one tried to do this to the bigger one; the bigger one would flip over to knock her off. This kept going on untill I would move and then they'd act normal, but as soon as I walked away from the tank they'd start it again. I have no idea what they're doing, so could someone tell me what's going on. Thanks, Caroline
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Caroline Hussey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I've had two female gerbils together since June 8th, 2001. Just today I noticed the bigger one chasing the smaller one around their tank. Then the bigger one would climb on top of the smaller one and they'd freeze like that, then the smaller one would run away. But if the smaller one tried to do this to the bigger one; the bigger one would flip over to knock her off. This kept going on untill I would move and then they'd act normal, but as soon as I walked away from the tank they'd start it again. I have no idea what they're doing, so could someone tell me what's going on. Thanks, Caroline Sounds like dominance marking to me. -- Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Gerbil Society http://www.gerbils.co.uk/
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Hello again I wnat to start showing my gerbils at shows and was wandering exactly what i had to do. do i need special show cages and things like that? so if any who shows could please email me back with as much information as you have that would be great
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Jonny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Hello again I wnat to start showing my gerbils at shows and was wandering exactly what i had to do. do i need special show cages and things like that? so if any who shows could please email me back with as much information as you have that would be great I presume you are talking about UK shows. The NGS rules say that novice exhibitors do not need special pens as long as they are secure and the gerbils are accessible. After one year you do though. -- Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Gerbil Society http://www.gerbils.co.uk/
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You're lucky she accepted a younger male so easily. This isn't the norm. Secondly, unless you're meaning to breed, I would find another cage mate for her. And thirdly, if this is happened with the introductions just being made, then she is probably a submissive gerbil, and she's just getting used to another gerbil in her tank. Give them a week or so, and they should be just dandy. And I must stress, unless you really want the responsibility of breeding gerbils (they can have a LOT of babies in their life time), finding another same sex mate for your female. Or finding a castrated male. :) -Jackie and The Copper Dragon Clan We just rescued a gerbil who is a one and a half year old female. After reading up on them, we found that she may want a roommate. We picked up a male that is probably 4 months old or so. They don't fight, but when he is in the same part of the condo, she hides in her wheel or somewhere else. They groom each other with him on the outside and her in, but I want to know if she is scared or just shy. Any help will be appreciated. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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We just rescued a gerbil who is a one and a half year old female. After reading up on them, we found that she may want a roommate. We picked up a male that is probably 4 months old or so. They don't fight, but when he is in the same part of the condo, she hides in her wheel or somewhere else. They groom each other with him on the outside and her in, but I want to know if she is scared or just shy. Any help will be appreciated. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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Hello group, the "7 survivors" will be 1 month the next 5th of Janand they are growing ok and now eat by themselvesI still can't believe I could save them! In a few days I will have to establish the sex of them and it will be really a problem I guessany tips? I will let one male with the dad for a while till I'll find out a nice new female for him (thanks Gary for the suggestion!) Then I will have to find out also some other ones to make the couples. I will get for me only another couple and the other are reserved by some of my friends thanks for helping and best wishes for the new year! Jane the 7 Survivorswww.graphomania.com
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Hey I was just wandering if there was any one who could send me the html for a chat room to put on my web site Jonny
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On Fri, 30 November 2001, Evans wrote: Quark is the same way. On both counts. :) Evon refuses to let him breed with her the first 2 days after birth. But Quark is right there in the nest with her while she's giving birth, and in between births lets Evon stretch her legs while he keeps the new little one(s) warm. I guess it's just a rare trait. Oh I forgot to mention that I spotted Sheridan washing pups while she was still giving birth. I thought it was really sweet. :) Tana and The Little Rascals Now at http://rascals.mybravenet.com - Sign up for ICQmail at http://www.icq.com/icqmail/signup.html
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My Trixie was closer to giving birth than I thought - we now have three new little squeakers! One dark-eyed and two red-eyed. I notice there are some different behaviors with this particular pair. For one, they don't mate the day of birth. Trixie refuses! They do the day after, though. And when I got up this morning (she gave birth late last night) I saw Sheridan was already in the nest with Trixie and the pups. I thought this rather interesting as fathers usually stay away the first day. Tana and The Little Rascals Now at http://rascals.mybravenet.com - Sign up for ICQmail at http://www.icq.com/icqmail/signup.html
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Quark is the same way. On both counts. :) Evon refuses to let him breed with her the first 2 days after birth. But Quark is right there in the nest with her while she's giving birth, and in between births lets Evon stretch her legs while he keeps the new little one(s) warm. I guess it's just a rare trait. Einstein is not allowed in the nest for the first few days after Trinity has a litter. So sad to see him all curled up in a ball on the other side of the tank. :( I guess we just have some special pairs, huh? -Jackie The Copper Dragon Clan My Trixie was closer to giving birth than I thought - we now have three new little squeakers! One dark-eyed and two red-eyed. I notice there are some different behaviors with this particular pair. For one, they don't mate the day of birth. Trixie refuses! They do the day after, though. And when I got up this morning (she gave birth late last night) I saw Sheridan was already in the nest with Trixie and the pups. I thought this rather interesting as fathers usually stay away the first day. Tana and The Little Rascals Now at http://rascals.mybravenet.com
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Well as you all knw, my two adult gerbils had 6 babies about 65 weeks ago. Only 1 survived. Then yesterday They had 4 more. So here we go again. ;0)
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At 16:03 24/11/01 +, p.whyman wrote: Hello i need some help i have recently pought a new tank to use as a burrow for my gerbils and was wandering what to fill it with so thew can burrow??? hi jonny with a mixture of hay and carefresh or aspen, some toilet tissue for their nest and some carton boxes or rolls, I don't know how large your tank is but I put a wooden table in it on which I place the gerbil's foodbowl, dustbath, water and ball greeting marielle Thanks Jonny
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Lisa , I enjoyed your site! I loved all the cute pictures! Just a question, where are you located? Jennifer Raymond SnowStormGerbils www.angelfire.com/mi3/animalkingdom
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I am very sorry to hear of his passing. From waht I have read in your pages and heard on the list though, Creamy led a very full and wonderful life with you. Are you going to get little creamy another cagemate? If so, good luck in your search for a suitable companion. I cannot remember if you said before that you still have any other gerbils left. Jade --- G.M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Today, when I looked into Creamy's Tank, all I saw was Little Creamy. I then picked up the tank to see if Creamy was sleeping in the nest. He didn't greet me, Oh no I thought! Then I saw him, he was partially covered with the Carefresh, I picked him up and he was dead. :o( There were no injuries, but blood or mucus from his eye was on the bedding where he laid. Creamy was 4 years and 1 month old. His son Little Creamy is now alone. = -- Gary's web pages - http://home.talkcity.com/StudioDr/go5/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1 __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1
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Today, when I looked into Creamy's Tank, all I saw was Little Creamy. I then picked up the tank to see if Creamy was sleeping in the nest. He didn't greet me, Oh no I thought! Then I saw him, he was partially covered with the Carefresh, I picked him up and he was dead. :o( There were no injuries, but blood or mucus from his eye was on the bedding where he laid. Creamy was 4 years and 1 month old. His son Little Creamy is now alone. = -- Gary's web pages - http://home.talkcity.com/StudioDr/go5/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! GeoCities - quick and easy web site hosting, just $8.95/month. http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info1
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Well I have had one litter of pups that were born Sept 13,2001 that have been raised on pine bedding and if I use anything else they get sick.
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I am looking to buy a cheap tank for my geribls. It does not have to be new. I cannot go out and buy a new one because they are to much. So if anyone has one that they want to sell for cheap let me know.
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I wanted to tell everyone something. I have been using pine bedding for 4 months now and have had no problems with my gerbils. They also like penuts. I do have a ? though. I put two males and to females together and they get along great but what will happen when they have babies
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Ok, there are mixed views on pine bedding - but I do know this from experience. If you intend to breed, DO change to aspen or some other allergen free bedding. The pups can and most likely will develop respiratory problems so acute that they will die. I'd hate for this to happen to you. If you're not breeding however, I do have a gerbil that seems to do MUCH better on pine than aspen. Some gerbils may have problems with pine, but others have problems with other kinds of bedding. I say use whatever suits the gerbil best, and is just as easy on your pocket as well. As far as putting the 2 males and 2 females together, I would strongly advise against it, but only from what I've heard from others. I have no first hand experience with such a situation, and I have no care to. If and when one of the females has babies, I would strongly suggest you find another tank to put the other female in, perhaps with one of the males (so she doesn't get lonely), as the non-mother will most likely steal, maim, or destroy the pups of the mother. Of course, if you have no interest in breeding, than I suggest you split them up into same-sex pairs. Even closely related gerbils will breed with one another. Good luck! -Jackie I wanted to tell everyone something. I have been using pine bedding for 4 months now and have had no problems with my gerbils. They also like penuts. I do have a ? though. I put two males and to females together and they get along great but what will happen when they have babies
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Hi! I just updated my site with alot of new pages, rescued gerbils, my other critters and our aviary...so it got a face lift! SnowStormGerbils I also have a small question...I had a litter of pups in the beginning of October both parents where Siamese...Two of my pups started off all white/ black eyes...but they have started molting and i really dunno on there color...they are all white with some brown ticking...there noses are black...is this Polar fox or SilverNutmeg? Tell me what you think of our new site :) Jennifer and Raymond SSG
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Well I rescued two mor gerbils today that makes four for me. I was worndering though if anyone might have a old tank I could get. The one I have for the new ones is really tiny and I cannot add things for them to play in.
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I just wanted everyone to know that I saved a female gerbil today. She is all black except for a part on her neck. She is paired up with a all gray male with red eyes. What do you all think I should name them??
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This is really a good news Kimberly ! Good for you! Sonia. - Original Message - From: Kimberly Kravitz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 05, 2001 11:56 PM I just wanted everyone to know that I saved a female gerbil today. She is all black except for a part on her neck. She is paired up with a all gray male with red eyes. What do you all think I should name them??
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I am sorry : ) I should have included that...I am located In Holly, MichiganNorth of Detroit.
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Hi every one! I need some help please. When i got my first gerbil Harvey i di not realise that i should have got two. He is about 4 months old know or 16 weeks can i introducde him to a cage mate and how please help Thanks Jonathan
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p.whyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Hi every one! I need some help please. When i got my first gerbil Harvey i di not realise that i should have got two. He is about 4 months old know or 16 weeks can i introducde him to a cage mate and how please help Thanks Jonathan There is advice on introductions at: http://www.gerbils.co.uk/intro.htm -- Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Gerbil Society http://www.gerbils.co.uk/
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A few months ago one of my gerbils had a very fat heathly litter of six. One of them often bites for no reason. She nearly always draws blood; i'm now afraid to hold her. I've always held my gerbils from birth. None of her brothers or sisters bite(only nibble curiously), (not painful). Nothing i know of that i've done could have provoked this? Anyone know what to do? Is there some thing wrong with her? = Deanimal __ Do You Yahoo!? Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals. http://personals.yahoo.com
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Hello list, I just updated my gerbil site and thought that I would share it with everyone :) So if you have time please visit it, and tell me what you think. www.angelfire.com/mi3/animalkingdom Thanks, Jennifer SnowStormGerbils
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Help me!!! I think my gerbil mother is dying and I need to know what to do for the babies
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Help me!!! I think my gerbil mother is dying and I need to know what to do for the babies What are her symptoms? How old are the pups? Is the father still with them? How many pups are there? Do you have any other females with pups right now? Deb Rebel's Rodent Ranch
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Iwant to know if it is normal for babies not to have there eyes open yet. they are 15 days old
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I also talked to the same lady Ashley did, she was very gross no matter if she was telling the truth or not, and if she was telling the truth a four year old should not be responsible for animals on there own. Parents are the prime caretaker of there childs pet. I feel sorry for any gerbil or animal that gets into the wrong hands. Jennifer~~ SnowStormGerbils
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For all that can answer. Can I keep a mother father daughter together without a problem. The baby is 2 weeks now but I want to make sure I will be able to keep them togther.
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The father will mate with the mother and the daughter. And once the daughter gets big enough to have babies the mother and her will start to becomeing aggressive tworde each other. Eventualy the will start stealing each others babies (killing them) and fighting. So it is not a good ide to keep a mother daughter father trio. Jocie Kessinger The Titan Clan --- Kimberly Kravitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For all that can answer. Can I keep a mother father daughter together without a problem. The baby is 2 weeks now but I want to make sure I will be able to keep them togther. __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
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Hello, This is a follow up to the ad that I placed two days ago. Thank you all for the great responses, and I'm sorry that I can't reply to each message personally. We have found someone via the listserve who lives nearby and who is willing to take all of the gerbils together, and we feel that since they have grown up together, they would be happier together. Again thanks to all of you that offered to provide homes for the gerbils. Thanks, Mark Jackson _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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Dear people on list, I am hoping that someone might be able to help me. I am the one that wrote about the mama moving her babies all the time. I am please to report mama and babies are doing great. The babies are now 5 days old and getting big. Mama has been leting me touch them since they where born. I don't know if that is because she trusts me or because she know I will not hurt them. Anyways I wanted to know if anyone could tell me how to tell the age of the parents? I got them from a petstore and they belonged to someone else but they could not keep them. So we bought them for 5 bucks. I have know idea if they are related or not or if they have had anymore litters other then the one that they had with me. How can you tell or can you not tell at all??
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help i signed off but im still on the list and getting mail
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You are sending your requests to the gerbil list and not to the listserve. Try this address. [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Erica nicholls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: help i signed off but im still on the list and getting mail __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/
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Wish you best of luck. I too hope you can keep the clan line going. I have really enjoyed reading tales of your gerbs on your pages. My five pups are still doing good. Born the night before all the N.Y. destruction. Wonder should I name them in remembrance or not. My son has named the parents now. The gray male is Sausage and the white female is Biscuit. Appropriate names if you've been following my notes about them. :) Jade --- G.M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My new gerbil Snow mated again today. Therefore, her last mating on August 30, didnt take. Im hoping she would carry on the line. = -- Gary's web pages - http://home.talkcity.com/StudioDr/go5/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com __ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/
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I have two gerbils that I got about 2 weeks ago. They just gave birth to 7 heathy babies this morning. I now have a few questions to ask since this is my first litter. Were you planning on having pups, or was this a surprise? If you got these guys from the same place, it is likely that they are brother and sister. And as there's no way to know how many generations they have been inbred (some pet stores sell what is given to them from the people they sold them to, so brother and sister mate, pups are put together in the pet store, sold unsexed, that brother and sister mate, have pups, and so forth). If they are brother and sister, it would probably be best to separate them once the pups are around 4 weeks old or so. Put the boys with the dad, and keep the girls with the mom, to help with the next litter that is probably on the way. Right after birth, gerbils come into heat, so it's likely your female is pregnant again. I have seen both of the adults move the babies alot. Is this ok for them to do? They spit up the babies and then they will put them back together and then take one and move it somewhere else. I'm afaid that one of the babies will die because it gets cold. Will that happen? Are they in a room with a lot of activity? Are you handling or otherwise disturbing them a lot. Sometimes first time parents get nervous, and will continue to move the pups until they feel they are in a safe place. If you keep them in a common room, move them to a quieter room. If they are already in one, then perhaps they are just nervous parents period. Just check on them once or twice a day to make a head count of pups, and make sure that all are accounted for, even if they aren't all in the same nest. A pup can die from neglect, but usually gerbils are quite good parents, so I don't think that you should over-worry yourself about it. My second question is that one of the babies looks like it might be blind. The others have dark spots on their eyes but this one is all pink. Is it blind?? Most likely he his pink because his eyes will be pink, which means you have gerbils with the recessive gene. If you learn the parents genetics, you can be more sure of exactly what color he may turn out to be. There are many good sites to find more information on breeding, etc. Someone was kind enough to post quite a few awhile back, so I have copy and pasted the information here. Here are urls to sites on predicting colors, colors/genetics, and breeding. Gerbil gene predictor to figure out what color pups your pair could produce: http://www.netxp.com/rick/gerbils/frameset.html then click on gene predictor Gerbil colors and pictures: home.wtal.de/ehr/gerbils/colors.htmolors.htm http://www.agsgerbils.org/Color_Strip/index.html http://www.gurlpages.com/other/emandkel/colors.html http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9792/spectrum.html http://users.bart.nl/~fredveen/colours1.htm http://www.gerbil-info.nl.com/genetics1.htm Breeding information: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/9792/how2breed.html http://www.rodent.demon.co.uk/gerbils/gerbfaq.htm Best of luck, Donna ABC Gerbils www.abcgerbils.com __ Hope this helps! If any other questions pop up, feel free to ask. -Jackie and the Copper Dragon Clan
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My new gerbil Snow mated again today. Therefore, her last mating on August 30, didnt take. Im hoping she would carry on the line. = -- Gary's web pages - http://home.talkcity.com/StudioDr/go5/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com
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Please help me determine the true color of my gerbil. Someone suggested Sage may be spotted lilac rather than spotted dove. I suppose this is possible, but he is So light really , and I am taking the photos with flash off and using Enhance on Photo Suite 3 so that he does not appear as white as he does when I use flash. From the color sites I have seen, lilac is quite a bit darker than my gerbil actually looks in person. The photos on the first page of my site are a bit darker than he really looks. A couple of the photos on these pages come closer to his actual color. http://www.geocities.com/spicegerbil_007/spicegerbs2.html http://www.geocities.com/spicegerbil_007/spicegerbs3.html the closest ones below... http://www.geocities.com/spicegerbil_007/sage_train.jpg http://www.geocities.com/spicegerbil_007/sagenap.jpg and one with flash, a bit brighter than his real color... http://www.geocities.com/spicegerbil_007/Mvc-002f.jpg In the photos of Lilac on The Gerbils Color Palette Sage looks more like the gerbil behind the lilac than the lilac. In fact almost exactly like the one in back. Of course if the spotting gene has that much of a lightning effect perhaps his color is called Lilac even though he appears dove? Or is it possible that he is sapphire? I am still trying very hard to learn all of this and I just want to be certain I have his color correct. So I am asking for as many opinions as possible and I suppose maybe go with the majority? What does everyone think think? Jade __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com
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Hi Jade, Since you are the only one that has seen Sage in person you are the best judge to his actual color. If you have compared him to the picture on the AGS Color Strip and he looks most like a Spotted Dove, then go with your impression. We understand that flash and lighting can change the color of a gerbil dramatically. I am having the same trouble getting an accurate picture of my current litter. Trust your self, Janet -Original Message- From: Gerbil Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Spice Gerbil Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 4:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please help me determine the true color of my gerbil. Someone suggested Sage may be spotted lilac rather than spotted dove. I suppose this is possible, but he is So light really , and I am taking the photos with flash off and using Enhance on Photo Suite 3 so that he does not appear as white as he does when I use flash. From the color sites I have seen, lilac is quite a bit darker than my gerbil actually looks in person. The photos on the first page of my site are a bit darker than he really looks. A couple of the photos on these pages come closer to his actual color. http://www.geocities.com/spicegerbil_007/spicegerbs2.html http://www.geocities.com/spicegerbil_007/spicegerbs3.html the closest ones below... http://www.geocities.com/spicegerbil_007/sage_train.jpg http://www.geocities.com/spicegerbil_007/sagenap.jpg and one with flash, a bit brighter than his real color... http://www.geocities.com/spicegerbil_007/Mvc-002f.jpg In the photos of Lilac on The Gerbils Color Palette Sage looks more like the gerbil behind the lilac than the lilac. In fact almost exactly like the one in back. Of course if the spotting gene has that much of a lightning effect perhaps his color is called Lilac even though he appears dove? Or is it possible that he is sapphire? I am still trying very hard to learn all of this and I just want to be certain I have his color correct. So I am asking for as many opinions as possible and I suppose maybe go with the majority? What does everyone think think? Jade __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com
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I have a question and would appreciate any help on this. I had some company tonight and we weresitting in the living room with my gerbils and all of a sudden one of the females just started thumping and the another female from another cage started doing the same thing... Can you tell me why they did this.? Thanks
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This does not belong on a gerbil website. I hope sending it to this site was an accident. thanks! Kathleen - Original Message - From: David Stoeger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 11:06 AM Sorry, Friends, I had an error on the consevative site of the day, GOP USA's Address is http://www.gopusa.com/ God Bless, David Stoeger _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
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Hi people, I've noticed in the three days that I got my Poke-poke and still-nameless-new-baby back from my sister that the baby seems to eat and DRINK an awful lot. Definitely more than what Poke-poke and Ding-dum did at the same age, maybe three times as much. Is this normal? Definitely there's lots more poopies and peepees than before... I suppose what goes in must come out. They're normal though, not wet or diarrhea. He also seems to like eating in the toilet dish despite my chastisements. I'm guessing he's about ten weeks old. Amy The Jeu-jeu Gerbils __ Get your FREE personalized e-mail at http://www.canada.com
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If you would like to breed gerbils then I have a fewcomments that I would like tosay you (I really wish I had someone who said these things to me before we started to breed them) 1) Gerbils are so cute and loveable.but they get REALLY expensive REALLY fast! We have a bit of luck that the owner of the pet store that we frequent gives us really good deals on food and everything else he carries that we can use for the babies. For 6 gerbils we are averaging around 60 bucks (canadian) a month (for cages, new cages if one of us accidently breaks a cage...which has happened, food, treats, a gerbil breeders first aid kit, a regular gerbil first aid kit and anything and everything else that comes up) 2) Vets are also expensive..and in smaller towns I have met ppl on here that know more then the vets here 3) It is HARD to find good homes for gerbils (and if you are going to breed then you have to find a GOOD home for them...and pet stores are seldom* to be seen as a good home) 4) It is heart breaking to see the babies grow up and leave Just a few things to think about.plus I dont recomend that ppl breed any animal till they are experienced with the animal Just my 2 cents worth BTW Congrats on your two cuties :) (and EVERY gerbil is a cutie) Heather Aaron Foxy Jaws Molly Donte Skittles Hoppy *note- I say seldom because most pet stores have no clue what they are doing with gerbilsour babies came from a pet store where the owner told us that cedar was perfectly fine for them, she picked them up by the end of their tails, has told ppl that gerbil treats work great as their regular diet, and sells gerbils that are VERY afraid of ppl (it has taken 2 months to get the older ones used to me and my boyfriend. But the pet store that we frequent knows VERY much about gerbils, has given us much information, and when we brought the 2 babies we had been unable to find homes for and had no room for them at the time, he was very good about moving them, gave them a large aquarium (a 20 gallon), and has spent time with them every day he is there (which is every day except sundays) And gets to know any person well before he sells them the gerbils I know this is a sore spot to many ppl (gerbil breeders supplying pet stores) So i ask that if you want to get mad at me then please do it to me privately...I know it gets irritating seeing the fights on here.. Thanks Heather -Original Message-From: Gerbil Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kamber OrrSent: July 27, 2001 8:50 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: (no subject)Hi everyone! I just joined this mailing list. I recently bought two gerbils from a pet store. I'm hopeing one is a male and the other is a female. One is black (Stardust) and the other is brown(Snickers) and some of her/his fur has black at the end. I really want to bred gerbils. I can't seem to get my mom to let me though =( Any ideas on convicing her? lol, anyways i better get offline! -Kamber-
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I agree with pretty much everything you said, but wow! $60 a month for 6 gerbils! I Never really kept track but even when I had about 60 gerbs (counting babies) I never spent more than $20-30 a month on food and bedding and a few toys. Of course, that's not counting all the aquariums and stuff I had to buy to begin with. I certainly lost alot of money though, you're right. ;) My big problem was waterbottles. They would go thru at least 1 or 2 a month. Finally started using those plastic hangy Quick Quenches. They have only destroyed 2 or 3 of them in the past 2 yrs (mostly by climbing them and chewing off the plastic loop, not actually damaging the bottle) Elizabeth
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I agree with pretty much everything you said, but wow! $60 a month for 6 gerbils! I Never really kept track but even when I had about 60 gerbs (counting babies) I never spent more than $20-30 a month on food and bedding and a few toys. Of course, that's not counting all the aquariums and stuff I had to buy to begin with. I certainly lost alot of money though, you're right. ;) My big problem was waterbottles. They would go thru at least 1 or 2 a month. Finally started using those plastic hangy Quick Quenches. They have only destroyed 2 or 3 of them in the past 2 yrs (mostly by climbing them and chewing off the plastic loop, not actually damaging the bottle) Elizabeth At 250 cages, monthly bills ran thus: $104 for 200# custom mix feed $10 for fresh food (carrots, apples, etc-scratch-n-dent-specials) $10 for milkbones by jumbo boxes for hamsters [2 boxes of 'large'] $15 for six waterbottles, others dying of old age and missing o-rings and getting gnawed $10 for vet bill misc and bandaid bill $15 for misc housing (buying a sheet of expanded metal mesh or another leaker at a rummage sale, etc) $6 bedding, two bales $5 cleaning supplies (bleach, soap, odoban, etc) $5 for gas $10 for utilities (water, electricity) $3 ads So you see, that if you're spending more than roughly a buck a cage a monthyou're buying lots of extras. I figure that a cage holds two gerbilsand between one and two hamsters depending on the breed. Now mind you I figure a setup is around $30 each...and I didn't figure those in because I no longer have that many cages/tanks/setups in service. I scrounged a lot (got the tanks free for the hauling, got a lot of the metal mesh on clearance and throwaways, etc) Things like gnaw wood, I have lots from neighbors and my hubby's wood projects (apple tree trimmings and white pine chunks) TP rolls, I had 'the network' that saved them for me. [and the figures are for those of you who wondered how much it really costs...other than floor space and time, to run a large rodentry...once you have things set up it isn't that much to maintain other than time] Deb Rebel's Rodent Ranch
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Hi everyone! I just joined this mailing list. I recently bought two gerbils from a pet store. I'm hopeing one is a male and the other is a female. One is black (Stardust) and the other is brown(Snickers) and some of her/his fur has black at the end. I really want to bred gerbils. I can't seem to get my mom to let me though =( Any ideas on convicing her? lol, anyways i better get offline! -Kamber-
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How is it nonsense to ask people to post in a way everyone can read? It's pretty hard to learning anything when you can't read stuff. wrote: First of all, I'm sick of all this mail reading Write bigger, no colors, I can't read HTML. This is about gerbils people, c'mon. Stop making a fight about all this! This is supposed to be fun, and educational for some people! I'm learning a lot from al this so please stop with the nonsense.! -- Tana and The Little Rascals http://members.home.net/tlr-gerbilry
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First of all, I'm sick of all this mail reading "Write bigger, no colors, I can't read HTML." This is about gerbils people, c'mon. Stop making a fight about all this! This is supposed to be fun, and educational for some people! I'm learning a lot from al this so please stop with the nonsense.!
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I agree...had i known not everyone can see HTML, i would have changed my AOL settings. *Caroline*
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There are several reasons why this is important for posters to realize (incidentally, yours are posts that show up blank on my screen due to html). Some people pay per minute to download messages- html messages, fancy fonts and such can take longer to download and thus cost people more money. If you are posting with a serious question or emergency, don't you want everyone to be able to read your message and respond as quickly as possible? I have noticed that several of the people who have commented on not being able to read the messages are some of the true veteran listmembers who have a great deal of experience and some a veterinary background. In an emergency situation, these people could give you advice to save your gerbils life- but not if they can't read your message. Jill -- From: Ashley Derby [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: (no subject) Date: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 9:58 PM First of all, I'm sick of all this mail reading Write bigger, no colors, I can't read HTML. This is about gerbils people, c'mon. Stop making a fight about all this! This is supposed to be fun, and educational for some people! I'm learning a lot from al this so please stop with the nonsense.!
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Erica nicholls [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote hi everyone, Does ne 1 know the percentages I should be looking for in fat, protein, etc., in the gerbil mixes I purchase for my non breeding pair of 10 week old gerbies? The answer is in the gerbil FAQ http://www.gerbils.co.uk/gerbils/gerbfaq.htm -- Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Gerbil Society http://www.gerbils.co.uk/
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hi everyone, Does ne 1 know the percentages I should be looking for in fat, protein, etc., in the gerbil mixes I purchase for my non breeding pair of 10 week old gerbies?
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Hello fellow-gerbil lovers! I just brought my girl (a lilac) to my friend's house for a month, since we are going on vacation. I am sooo sad! I miss her already! I cringed when my friend's little brother came bounding in with an announcing shout. I am so worried about her already! I hope I can still have an enjoyable vacation! To think, a whole month before I get to bring her home again! A sad gerbil owner, Katie Katie http://saddleclick.homestead.com http://candcritters.homestead.com Have a great day and God Bless!
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I would be patient and certainly don't chase them around the tank. That would only frighten them more. Not to imply that you are doing that, just a warning. :) Just spend LOTS of time just sitting with your hand in there, eventually their curiousity should compel them to come investigate. It sounds to me like they came to you without much experience with humans, or else they're unusually shy. It will take a lot of patience. Hopefully with time they'll begin climbing into your hand. Take it very slowly at that point. Once they seem used to you, you can slowly lift your hand up just a bit at first. I think somebody else has described this already. Caroline Hussey wrote: I posted this sometime last week, but got no responce. I would really like some advice with this. Thanx again. . . . I've had 2 female gerbils for some time now, and ever since I got them they always run away from me when I tried to pick them up, or even put my hand in the cage. I've tried to get them to walk onto my hand using treats, but they just grab the treat and run to the corner. And when I open the cage door and hold my hand outside of it they put their front paws on me and if I move my hand at all they run. This is getting very frustrating, especially when I'm trying to clean the cage. Is this normal? What can I do to get the gerbils to let me pet them and pick them up? -:¦:- ._¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:-((¸¸.·´. . . . .CaRoLiNe. . . . . -- Tana and The Little Rascals http://members.home.net/tlr-gerbilry
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Yeah and remember each gerbil has a different personality. One of my young females will gladly jump in my hand, but the big male is more cautious and sometimes nips me when he thinks I have been there to long. He is very protective of his clan. I usually let him out first and then after that I play with the others. Each one is different. From: Tana and The Little Rascals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Tana and The Little Rascals <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: (no subject) Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2001 17:35:50 -0700 I would be patient and certainly don't chase them around the tank. That would only frighten them more. Not to imply that you are doing that, just a warning. :) Just spend LOTS of time just sitting with your hand in there, eventually their curiousity should compel them to come investigate. It sounds to me like they came to you without much experience with humans, or else they're unusually shy. It will take a lot of patience. Hopefully with time they'll begin climbing into your hand. Take it very slowly at that point. Once they seem used to you, you can slowly lift your hand up just a bit at first. I think somebody else has described this already. Caroline Hussey wrote: I posted this sometime last week, but got no responce. I would really like some advice with this. Thanx again. . . . I've had 2 female gerbils for some time now, and ever since I got them they always run away from me when I tried to pick them up, or even put my hand in the cage. I've tried to get them to walk onto my hand using treats, but they just grab the treat and run to the corner. And when I open the cage door and hold my hand outside of it they put their front paws on me and if I move my hand at all they run. This is getting very frustrating, especially when I'm trying to clean the cage. Is this normal? What can I do to get the gerbils to let me pet them and pick them up? -:¦:- ._¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´. . . . .CaRoLiNe. . . . . -- Tana and The Little Rascals http://members.home.net/tlr-gerbilry Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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I posted this sometime last week, but got no responce. I would really like some advice with this. Thanx again. . . . I've had 2 female gerbils for some time now, and ever since I got them they always run away from me when I tried to pick them up, or even put my hand in the cage. I've tried to get them to walk onto my hand using treats, but they just grab the treat and run to the corner. And when I open the cage door and hold my hand outside of it they put their front paws on me and if I move my hand at all they run. This is getting very frustrating, especially when I'm trying to clean the cage. Is this normal? What can I do to get the gerbils to let me pet them and pick them up? -:¦:- ._¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´. . . . .CaRoLiNe. . . . .
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Ive had that problem with Molly and Donte (the parents) and I went through about 4 weeks of it with Foxy and JawsWhat i did to get them used to me was for about 15 minutes a day to put my hand palm down in the cage, and let them sniff, crawl around on it (i didnt pick them up at this time) and then as they got more used to my hand being in there I started to move it an inch or so off the bedding and hold it there.then when they got comfortable with that I was able to lift them farther up! Now I can get them out (when they want to be held) and I have a half a habitrail tube that i use to trick them when i need them out of the cage :) Heather Foxy, Jaws, Molly, Donte, Skittles, Hoppy, Fluffy, Digger and Wheeler! - Original Message - From: Caroline Hussey To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 5:14 PM Subject: (no subject) I posted this sometime last week, but got no responce. I would really like some advice with this. Thanx again. . . . I've had 2 female gerbils for some time now, and ever since I got them they always run away from me when I tried to pick them up, or even put my hand in the cage. I've tried to get them to walk onto my hand using treats, but they just grab the treat and run to the corner. And when I open the cage door and hold my hand outside of it they put their front paws on me and if I move my hand at all they run. This is getting very frustrating, especially when I'm trying to clean the cage. Is this normal? What can I do to get the gerbils to let me pet them and pick them up? -:¦:- ._¸..· ´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´. . . . .CaRoLiNe. . . . .
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Charlie Blum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I'm sorry to ask you people this but I looked all over the internet and couldn't find the answer to my questions, and its about mice that I recently got. One I just got today and I hear it clicking (not all of the time just every couple of minutes it will click a few times then stop) I think it is an infection (I am using aspen bedding) and I have no idea what to do!! Please help!! and my second question is how long is the genestation period of a mouse because I don't know if the female is pregnant or not (it was a feeder mouse they keep males and females together) sorry for going off of subject :) ~*Jenny*~ :) The problem is probably a respiratory infection. Treat it as you would for a gerbil. As for the gestation period, I have no idea, I believe it varies as it does in gerbils due to the Bruce effect. -- Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Gerbil Society http://www.gerbils.co.uk/
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OK everyone .. I have a question .. what causes dehydration in gerbils? I Lose my sick Momma yesterday. She was feeding and didn't seem to be suffering from Respitory problems. Somone mention on this list the other day about dehydration and to try pedialyte which i did, unfortunately it didn't work. Now my other Momma is sick, she is thin and wobbly on her legs and lethargic, I put sme baby oatmeal in her cage and she is eating it. I also tried to give her some pedilyte by mouth but she didnt' seem to take much and she seems so frail I was afriad of hurting her. Both cages of gerbils have been on antibiotics for 2 weeks now so i am sure there is no signs of respitory. Please help, I would like to try and keep this mommy alive. Thanks ~Heather
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Is anyone out there a breeder in the Dayton, or Columbus, Ohio areas? Ihave a little girl(I think) gerbil that I would like to find a same-sex companion for. Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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Hi Jessica, Do you use a metal wheel? If you do, please consider taping the inside and outside with masking tape to prevent broken limbs and tails. As for the squeaking, when we have that trouble here we use a Q-tip and dab a little vegetable or olive oil in the area where the metal contacts metal. It works wonderfully! It has to be done again occasionally as the vegetable or olive oil dries up but I prefer to use vegetable/olive oil in case the gerbils might lick it. Susan Hillbilly Clan - Original Message - From: Jessica Pierson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 10:58 PM Hi! I'm new to the listserv, and I thought I'd introduce myself and ask a simple question. My name is Jessica, I'm a college sophomore, and I just got gerbils a few days ago, for the first time. I'm already in love with them! I have a golden agouti male, Indy, and a black (female?), Nape. They're doing great in their new home =) The only thing that's bugging me is that their wheel is extremely sqeaky! And being that they're active, they run on it frequently. It keeps me and my boyfriend awake at night at times. Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this? I'd appreciate any ideas =) Thanks, Jessica
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Hi Susan, Yes, I use a metal wheel, and not to worry, I've already learned about the taping trick =) I did a lot of research on gerbils and found that it was a common suggestion to use tape. Thanks for your suggestion regarding the wheel, and everyone elses! I put a few dabs of vegetable oil on the wheel last night, and it hasn't sqeaked since =) Thanks, Jessica Hi Jessica, Do you use a metal wheel? If you do, please consider taping the inside and outside with masking tape to prevent broken limbs and tails. As for the squeaking, when we have that trouble here we use a Q-tip and dab a little vegetable or olive oil in the area where the metal contacts metal. It works wonderfully! It has to be done again occasionally as the vegetable or olive oil dries up but I prefer to use vegetable/olive oil in case the gerbils might lick it. Susan Hillbilly Clan
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Hi! I'm new to the listserv, and I thought I'd introduce myself and ask a simple question. My name is Jessica, I'm a college sophomore, and I just got gerbils a few days ago, for the first time. I'm already in love with them! I have a golden agouti male, Indy, and a black (female?), Nape. They're doing great in their new home =) The only thing that's bugging me is that their wheel is extremely sqeaky! And being that they're active, they run on it frequently. It keeps me and my boyfriend awake at night at times. Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this? I'd appreciate any ideas =) Thanks, Jessica
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yeah, I found vaseline worked wonders on a squeaky wheel ^__^ Nancy Cinnamon Pepper Ryoga, Ranma, Akane, Serenity, and Buttercup
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Use a little Vaseline to lubricate the wheel. :) I've tried vegetable oil, too, but they tend to lick that off! Jessica Pierson wrote: Hi! I'm new to the listserv, and I thought I'd introduce myself and ask a simple question. My name is Jessica, I'm a college sophomore, and I just got gerbils a few days ago, for the first time. I'm already in love with them! I have a golden agouti male, Indy, and a black (female?), Nape. They're doing great in their new home =) The only thing that's bugging me is that their wheel is extremely sqeaky! And being that they're active, they run on it frequently. It keeps me and my boyfriend awake at night at times. Does anyone have any suggestions for fixing this? I'd appreciate any ideas =) Thanks, Jessica -- Tana and The Little Rascals http://members.home.net/tlr-gerbilry
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Hello all . I'm new to this .. I am having some problems with my gerbils. We have 2 females and 1 male. 1 female gave birth about a month ago to a tiny little litter of 2. After 2 weeks they were both dead. No apparent wounds. The other female gave birth the day before we lost these two. She had a litter of 4. They were about3 weeks old yesterday and I found 3 dead. I have since seperated the mother of this litter with the remaining baby and am hoping that it will survive and be a companion for her. My question is "why are the babies dying". I was wondering if perhaps the momma just wasn't taking very good care of the babies. They were in a pretty busy room in the house but I have since moved them to a quieter spot. Although this is both the females first litters it is not our first litters and previous to these ones we have had success. I was wondering if it would be possible to supplement the remaining babys food. It doesn't have it's eyes open yet but is running all over the cage, I wonder when it will be fully weaned. I was going to buy some baby oatmeal today to see if the baby woudl eat. I so want this one to live. Pleae help ~Heather
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Jessica ~~ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote Hi Everyone- I'm new to the list and I have a gerbil with a bloody nose. I has been like this for about a week now. She is fine other wise. Can you give me any reason this would be happening. I use Carefresh as bedding!! This is usually an allergy, but can also be an infection of the nose caused by an infected wound, for example, by rubbing the nose while gnawing. Something like neosporin will work if it is an infection, but leave this until you have eliminated possible allergens. -- Julian [EMAIL PROTECTED] National Gerbil Society http://www.gerbils.co.uk/
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sorry but I just have to tell someone that might be at least a little interested. after looking at some web pages displaying gerbil colours I have come to the conclusion that Bob is a colourpoint slate (aa,cbcb,gg), Shy is a slate (aa,Ccb,gg) and Blanche is a light ivory cream (AA,C[cb?],gg,pp) this is also backed up by the colours of their pups (Blanche's 3 grey agouti's and one pearl[?]so far and Shy's 5 slates and 3 colourpint slates) [yes she had four not three pups in her second litter, I must make the nest box more accessible] I also have them in two set-ups now (Blanche, Bob and Malky, and Shy and the rest off the pups [I want to keep one of the females in with her])
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Hi I have given my gerbils chinchilla sand and they seem to love to roll in it and have a great time, however they seem to be eating it. Is there some sort of harmful side-effect that this will cause or is it a beahviour that is alright? Thanks Jen _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.
