Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
While I don't disagree with much of your text, I believe you're wrong about the BBC terms of reference. My understanding is that if you access iPlayer from an Apple device, then that 30-day limit doesn't apply. All get_iplayer does is emulate (or simulate) that Apple environment, thereby avoiding the 30-day limitation. - Regards, Paul Thornett On Mon, 6 Jul. 2020, 11:09 VeniVidiVideo, wrote: > > Boy, the hypocrisy here is stunning. The BBC allows time-limited downloads, > but does NOT allow downloads without an expiration date. Every single > license payer here is violating BBC's terms of service by using GiP to > download files that do not expire. Yet heaven forbid someone from outside > the UK violate those same terms of service. Plus, every US participant that > has ever spoken up has observed they'd happily pay the license fee if they > could. Hell, I tried to work out an arrangement to pretend to live in an > apartment on somebody's property so I could have an address and pay the > license fee, just to contribute my fair share, but the fellow decided not to > follow through. I didn't blame him for wanting to avoid any impropriety, but > you holier-than-thou types really suck. People in glass houses... > > - larryy > > > On Jul 5, 2020, at 8:31 AM, James Robinson > > wrote: > > > > Could not agree more. Well said. > > > >> On 04 July 2020 at 17:29 Jon Davies wrote: > >> > >> > >> On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 13:58, Barry Toner wrote: > >>> Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the > >>> USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need > >>> subtitles or audio description. > >> > >> This is why I stopped subscribing to this list a couple of years ago - > >> I've been resubscribed by the old backup, but will be going again. I > >> want nothing to do with anyone or anything that promotes violation of > >> the BBC terms of use. See > >> https://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/terms-of-use/ - particularly 7a, the > >> bit that says > >> > >> a. Don’t mess with our services > >> > >> What do we mean by that? This sort of thing: > >> ...Accessing content from outside the UK that you aren’t allowed to, > >> or helping others do the same. > >> > >> So, please just stop using get-iplayer for this sort of thing. People > >> have put effort into building get-iplayer to enable fair use within > >> the UK in circumstances that the BBC's own software doesn't support. > >> > >> Yes, I'm angry. I'm angry that people, including you Barry Toner, are > >> abusing the work others (and to a much lesser extent I) have put into > >> get-iplayer and the various distribution points for it. > >> > >> So I'm pulling the plug on what's left of the Ubuntu repository > >> (though it was getting no further updates for other reasons), and > >> pulling the plug on the Raspbian repository. If you don't like this, > >> tough. Do your own thing. I'm having no part in this any more. > >> > >> Jon > >> > >> ___ > >> get_iplayer mailing list > >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > > ___ > > get_iplayer mailing list > > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
On my Freeview HD PVR I can record anything the BBC broadcast and keep it as long as I want. And it is a higher resolution and bit rate recording, often with 5.1 sound which iPlayer never provides. If I have to use iPlayer for some reason, I am already putting up with reduced picture and sound quality. Why should I also have to put up with a limited retention time? -- Owen Smith Cambridge, UK > On 6 Jul 2020, at 02:11, VeniVidiVideo wrote: > > Boy, the hypocrisy here is stunning. The BBC allows time-limited downloads, > but does NOT allow downloads without an expiration date. Every single > license payer here is violating BBC's terms of service by using GiP to > download files that do not expire. Yet heaven forbid someone from outside > the UK violate those same terms of service. Plus, every US participant that > has ever spoken up has observed they'd happily pay the license fee if they > could. Hell, I tried to work out an arrangement to pretend to live in an > apartment on somebody's property so I could have an address and pay the > license fee, just to contribute my fair share, but the fellow decided not to > follow through. I didn't blame him for wanting to avoid any impropriety, but > you holier-than-thou types really suck. People in glass houses... > > - larryy > >> On Jul 5, 2020, at 8:31 AM, James Robinson >> wrote: >> >> Could not agree more. Well said. >> On 04 July 2020 at 17:29 Jon Davies wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 13:58, Barry Toner wrote: Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need subtitles or audio description. >>> >>> This is why I stopped subscribing to this list a couple of years ago - >>> I've been resubscribed by the old backup, but will be going again. I >>> want nothing to do with anyone or anything that promotes violation of >>> the BBC terms of use. See >>> https://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/terms-of-use/ - particularly 7a, the >>> bit that says >>> >>> a. Don’t mess with our services >>> >>> What do we mean by that? This sort of thing: >>> ...Accessing content from outside the UK that you aren’t allowed to, >>> or helping others do the same. >>> >>> So, please just stop using get-iplayer for this sort of thing. People >>> have put effort into building get-iplayer to enable fair use within >>> the UK in circumstances that the BBC's own software doesn't support. >>> >>> Yes, I'm angry. I'm angry that people, including you Barry Toner, are >>> abusing the work others (and to a much lesser extent I) have put into >>> get-iplayer and the various distribution points for it. >>> >>> So I'm pulling the plug on what's left of the Ubuntu repository >>> (though it was getting no further updates for other reasons), and >>> pulling the plug on the Raspbian repository. If you don't like this, >>> tough. Do your own thing. I'm having no part in this any more. >>> >>> Jon >>> >>> ___ >>> get_iplayer mailing list >>> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer >> >> ___ >> get_iplayer mailing list >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
Boy, the hypocrisy here is stunning. The BBC allows time-limited downloads, but does NOT allow downloads without an expiration date. Every single license payer here is violating BBC's terms of service by using GiP to download files that do not expire. Yet heaven forbid someone from outside the UK violate those same terms of service. Plus, every US participant that has ever spoken up has observed they'd happily pay the license fee if they could. Hell, I tried to work out an arrangement to pretend to live in an apartment on somebody's property so I could have an address and pay the license fee, just to contribute my fair share, but the fellow decided not to follow through. I didn't blame him for wanting to avoid any impropriety, but you holier-than-thou types really suck. People in glass houses... - larryy > On Jul 5, 2020, at 8:31 AM, James Robinson > wrote: > > Could not agree more. Well said. > >> On 04 July 2020 at 17:29 Jon Davies wrote: >> >> >> On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 13:58, Barry Toner wrote: >>> Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the >>> USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need >>> subtitles or audio description. >> >> This is why I stopped subscribing to this list a couple of years ago - >> I've been resubscribed by the old backup, but will be going again. I >> want nothing to do with anyone or anything that promotes violation of >> the BBC terms of use. See >> https://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/terms-of-use/ - particularly 7a, the >> bit that says >> >> a. Don’t mess with our services >> >> What do we mean by that? This sort of thing: >> ...Accessing content from outside the UK that you aren’t allowed to, >> or helping others do the same. >> >> So, please just stop using get-iplayer for this sort of thing. People >> have put effort into building get-iplayer to enable fair use within >> the UK in circumstances that the BBC's own software doesn't support. >> >> Yes, I'm angry. I'm angry that people, including you Barry Toner, are >> abusing the work others (and to a much lesser extent I) have put into >> get-iplayer and the various distribution points for it. >> >> So I'm pulling the plug on what's left of the Ubuntu repository >> (though it was getting no further updates for other reasons), and >> pulling the plug on the Raspbian repository. If you don't like this, >> tough. Do your own thing. I'm having no part in this any more. >> >> Jon >> >> ___ >> get_iplayer mailing list >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Demise of get_iplayer PPA
Mark, Great work, Thank you for sharing On 5 Jul 2020 at 10:49, Mark Grant Mark Grant wrote: > > I noticed in the Release Notes for v3.26 the announcement of the demise > of the get_iplayer PPA. I have, for a number of years, been packaging > and publishing my own software for Debian and Ubuntu. So far I have > done the same for get_iplayer on Debian but only for my own > consumption. With the demise of the current PPA, and given that I would > continue to package get_iplayer for myself, I thought it should be > straight forward to extend that activity to a PPA and a Debian > repository. > > So, FWIW, my PPA now builds packages for Bionic, Eoan and Focal, and my > Debian repo has packages for Stretch and Buster. > > Ubuntu PPA > == > https://code.launchpad.net/~m-grant-prg/+archive/ubuntu/utils > If you wish to use this then you should remove the old PPA. Then add > the new one:- > > sudo add-apt-repository ppa:m-grant-prg/utils > sudo apt-get update > > Debian Repo > === > Please follow the instructions at:- > https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=home%3Am-grant-prg=get-iplayer > > A Couple of Points To Note > == > * This is a packaging-only project, no upstream project file will be > amended. > * Packaging-only issues can be addressed, software issues should be > addressed upstream. > * get_iplayer has substantial functionality. This fuctionality cannot > be tested as part of the package build and publication. > * This is, of course, best effort only. > > Any feedback would be appreciated. > > Regards, > Mark > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
Could not agree more. Well said. > On 04 July 2020 at 17:29 Jon Davies wrote: > > > On Sat, 4 Jul 2020 at 13:58, Barry Toner wrote: > > Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the > > USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need > > subtitles or audio description. > > This is why I stopped subscribing to this list a couple of years ago - > I've been resubscribed by the old backup, but will be going again. I > want nothing to do with anyone or anything that promotes violation of > the BBC terms of use. See > https://www.bbc.co.uk/usingthebbc/terms-of-use/ - particularly 7a, the > bit that says > > a. Don’t mess with our services > > What do we mean by that? This sort of thing: > ...Accessing content from outside the UK that you aren’t allowed to, > or helping others do the same. > > So, please just stop using get-iplayer for this sort of thing. People > have put effort into building get-iplayer to enable fair use within > the UK in circumstances that the BBC's own software doesn't support. > > Yes, I'm angry. I'm angry that people, including you Barry Toner, are > abusing the work others (and to a much lesser extent I) have put into > get-iplayer and the various distribution points for it. > > So I'm pulling the plug on what's left of the Ubuntu repository > (though it was getting no further updates for other reasons), and > pulling the plug on the Raspbian repository. If you don't like this, > tough. Do your own thing. I'm having no part in this any more. > > Jon > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
It is best NOT to do that. That is not what get_iplayer is for. Please stop. > On 05 July 2020 at 12:03 Computing wrote: > > > Hi Barry, can I ask how much extra you are going to chip in to the BBC > pot, to cover the cost of the episodes of Celebrity Master Chef that you > are stealing?? > > Martin > > On 04/07/2020 13:50, Barry Toner wrote: > > Hi, > > Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the > > USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need > > subtitles or audio description. > > Is there a syntax that will grab the published episodes, and that will run > > in the background grabbing each episode of the season as they go up on > > iPlyaer? > > > > Thanks. > > Barry. > > ___ > > get_iplayer mailing list > > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
Hi Barry, can I ask how much extra you are going to chip in to the BBC pot, to cover the cost of the episodes of Celebrity Master Chef that you are stealing?? Martin On 04/07/2020 13:50, Barry Toner wrote: Hi, Can someone please tell me how I do this? I promised some friends in the USA I would grab this show for them. I need the video and don’t need subtitles or audio description. Is there a syntax that will grab the published episodes, and that will run in the background grabbing each episode of the season as they go up on iPlyaer? Thanks. Barry. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: Syntax for grabbing all episodes of the new season of Celebrity Master Chef
In article , Geoff Smith wrote: > Bravo, Jon. > Giving Americans freebies at our Licence payers' expense is disgraceful. > "Grab" = "Steal". FWIW I'm also unhappy when people use get-iplayer for purposes like this. Not only because it means some people are making use of what the rest of us happily pay a license fee to support. And find use of gip very handy as a way - in the UK and having paid the fee - to watch and listen to BBC output. But also because it increases pressure on the BBC to block gip access, which for me - and many others - would be a real blow! Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Demise of get_iplayer PPA
I noticed in the Release Notes for v3.26 the announcement of the demise of the get_iplayer PPA. I have, for a number of years, been packaging and publishing my own software for Debian and Ubuntu. So far I have done the same for get_iplayer on Debian but only for my own consumption. With the demise of the current PPA, and given that I would continue to package get_iplayer for myself, I thought it should be straight forward to extend that activity to a PPA and a Debian repository. So, FWIW, my PPA now builds packages for Bionic, Eoan and Focal, and my Debian repo has packages for Stretch and Buster. Ubuntu PPA == https://code.launchpad.net/~m-grant-prg/+archive/ubuntu/utils If you wish to use this then you should remove the old PPA. Then add the new one:- sudo add-apt-repository ppa:m-grant-prg/utils sudo apt-get update Debian Repo === Please follow the instructions at:- https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=home%3Am-grant-prg=get-iplayer A Couple of Points To Note == * This is a packaging-only project, no upstream project file will be amended. * Packaging-only issues can be addressed, software issues should be addressed upstream. * get_iplayer has substantial functionality. This fuctionality cannot be tested as part of the package build and publication. * This is, of course, best effort only. Any feedback would be appreciated. Regards, Mark ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
