Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
This reminds me: A while back I looked at making it possible to download programmes with get_iplayer on Linux by clicking the "Download Programme" link on the iPlayer website, but haven't yet got around to polishing it up to the point where it would be ready to merge. It seems like this would now be especially useful. If anyone has time to look at https://github.com/dinkypumpkin/get_iplayer/pull/30, particularly if they know how to plumb this in on Windows or MacOS, that would be great. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
Don't forget that with most services, including the bbc, you just swap .xml for .json if you prefer json and find it easier to work with an object. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programmes/schedules/hd/2014/10/31.json Also, the Yahoo Query Language console might be worth a look for transforming data.. https://developer.yahoo.com/yql/console/ On 1 November 2014 12:50, Jon Davies wrote: > On 29 October 2014 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: >> The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer > > It seems that the programme schedule data feeds are still working > (lots of xml, e.g. > http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programmes/schedules/hd/2014/10/31.xml) > and these have pids listed for both historic and future programmes. > It doesn't tell you whether a particular programme is actually > available on iplayer, but these would at least provide some data that > could be searched. > > Jon > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On 29 October 2014 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: > The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer It seems that the programme schedule data feeds are still working (lots of xml, e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programmes/schedules/hd/2014/10/31.xml) and these have pids listed for both historic and future programmes. It doesn't tell you whether a particular programme is actually available on iplayer, but these would at least provide some data that could be searched. Jon ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
Thank you, "User Name". Here's another patch (from version 2.83) that fixes the "BBC iPlayer feeds" in the programme titles. In the sub generate_filenames, change one line from: $prog->{name} = $name if $name && ! $prog->{name}; to $prog->{name} = $name if $name && (! $prog->{name} || $prog->{name} eq 'BBC iPlayer Feeds'); Chris On 30/10/2014 04:16, User Name wrote: I found that by co-opting (and modifying slightly the behaviour of) the --refreshfuture cmdline option, I was able to re-populate the cache with a fair amount of stuff. I have modified the 2.86 git version of the get_iplayer.pl script I have on Windows (precisely, from git branch f109d22). -- ch...@roaima.co.uk smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On Fri Oct 31 03:52:23 GMT 2014, I wrote: and the "summary" entry could be used as a "descshort" equivalent to populate the tag fields now filled with the junk. ... The same could be applied for JSON playlists with regards to the metadata, Examining more closely "sub get_verpids_json" my $descshort = $1 if $default =~ /"summary":"(.*?)"/; $prog->{descshort} = $descshort if $descshort; In am now seeing that the JSON playlist is already being parsed for the metadata inside "summary". So I went and changed lines $tags->{comment} = $meta->{desc}; & $tags->{lyrics} = $meta->{desc}; to $tags->{comment} = $meta->{descshort}; & $tags->{lyrics} = $meta->{descshort}; and I got what I asked for, but only if "sub get_verpids_json" is used for vpid extraction... V. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On Thu Oct 30 04:16:22 GMT 2014, I wrote: pid=b04mb4wk corresponds to a valid XML playlist, so GiP uses older subroutines for the download and tagging; this show can be recorded... but - as said - without an embedded thumbnail. ... if sub get_verpids_json is being used due to a "noitems" XML playlist, then the M4A tagging is more complete & with a thumbnail... I am looking at the valid (= no "noItems") XML playlist of radio show with PID=b04mbn19 http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/playlist/b04mbn19 When I record this with 2.87 using: get_iplayer --type=radio --pid=b04mbn19 --modes=flashaac --force --tag-podcast-radio I end up with file The_Official_Chart_Update_-_29_10_2014_b04mbn19_default.m4a with no thumbnail and the "BBC iPlayer feeds are no longer..." junk in the comment, lyrics & desc tag fields (this is old news...). However, the XML playlist contains a link to the show's thumbnail http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/programmeimages/p01tnpvn/b04mbn19_640_360.jpg and the "summary" entry could be used as a "descshort" equivalent to populate the tag fields now filled with the junk. I understand that GiP used to get the thumbnail and the metadata from the now gone feeds, but if it could be told to parse the XML playlist more fully (and not only for vPID) then we'd end up with an embedded thumbnail and minimal but useful metadata. The same could be applied for JSON playlists with regards to the metadata, as already "sub get_verpids_json" produces "thumbnailed" audio files. (In an experiment conducted locally, I "forced" the script to use sub get_verpids_json even for recent radio files with valid XML playlists and indeed the recorded files had thumbnails in them - but I understand this is not the way to go, while XML playlists are still present; or is it? Oh, how I wish I could write code... Vangelis. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On 29 Oct 2014 at 19:09, Paul Phillips Paul Phillips wrote: > I'm going to an open evening the iplayer team are having in early > December in Salford , and I expect to be able to speak directly to the > iplayer product team so if you have any questions let me know and I'll > see if I can get them answered. Paul, I wish it was "I'm going to an open evening the iplayer team are having in early November in Salford" Nervertheless, I look forward to reading your summary of what was discussed and their reasons for various decisions and road map for the future. Perhaps you could record the event - audio only or AV. Cheers, Peter 15GB + 5GB bonus Free cloud storage, no credit card details required: https://copy.com?r=VnqHxA 5GB bonus for both for using referal link Cloud storage space and app provided by https://www.barracuda.com Files are stored on Barracuda's own servers, not amazon/aws or other third party as most including Dropbox use ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
Paul Oldham wrote: > On 29/10/14 22:29, Timothy wrote: > >> dinkypumpkin: The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by >> get_iplayer... >> >> Well crap. This means all the RSS feeds are now gone. I was already >> struggling with the new iPlayer interface before and was so glad for the RSS >> feeds. Now they just abruptly disappear and I'm left floundering. Lovely. >> --- SNIP --- > > I don't suppose there's any mileage in your pointing them in the > direction of the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 (Part III, section > 19)[1]? The problem is that it's perfectly accessible, and surprisingly usable without too much effort with a screen reader and probably other assistive tech too. The issue I'm having is that it's more clunky than simple RSS, and I'm just not used to it yet. That's me and personal preference so it had nothing to do with my disability, using assistive technology, or anything like that. I just don't like the interface and struggled with it in the past because I just ran back to the RSS feeds the first chance I got. I sent my earlier message out of frustration with the RSS feeds disappearing completely, without any warning or any replacement for normal users and/or non-developers. > It wouldn't normally carry a lot of weight sadly but this is the BBC > we're talking about so you'd think they might pay some attention to it. They definitely would at that. The BBC site is one of the most accessible sites thus far and even publishes guidelines for accessibility and/or universal design for other sites to follow. Timothy ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
If you're aiming to get something like PVR functionality, i.e. downloading all episodes of a specific programme, what's working for me is: (for radio) (1) Find the programme's overall PID (there's probably a proper name for this, but I don't know it) within iPlayer. Start at http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio and search for the programme name (using the "Find a programme" disguised low-contrast search box, not the one at the top of the page that actually looks like a search box). Or use the A-Z list of programmes. In any case, the URL given for the programme title will contain this overall PID. e.g. the shipping forecast has b006qfvv . (2) Build a URL from that using this template: http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/$PID/episodes/player . e.g. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b006qfvv/episodes/player (3) Bookmark that URL and load it each day, looking for new episodes. (You might automate this. I couldn't possibly comment.) The episode title will contain the individual episode PID. e.g. as I write the most recent Shipping Forecast links to http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04mb103 . (4) Download that PID with get_iplayer. e.g. get_iplayer --metadata generic --type radio --pid b04mb103 --get (If you're on Windows, do whatever you already do on the Windows command line. I don't use it and can't help you.) For television the process is similar, but the overall programme link will be something like http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/b006mj59 (for Top Gear) and you can omit the --type radio. Roger ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On 30/10/14 11:43, Square Penguin wrote: Budgie wrote: what is the best way find required PID or URL to continue to get programmes while we can? Aside from the usual way of manually extracting the PID/URL from the iPlayer site page there are a few scripts popping up which seem to be used with Firefox in some way. I don't use Firefox so you might have to look into that but the info is in this thread: https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/topic/downloading-using-multiple-pids/ Hi Square Penguin, many thanks. When I wrote my last message most of the messages in this thread had not reached my screen. Now I am overwhelmed with options but no time to play. Further to my concerns over encryption there may be a simpler motivation. The loss of licence fees from all those using IT devices and time shifting techniques so as to avoid legally paying the fee. Will have to dedicate time each evening to do the business with BBC website. I abhor the iPlayer site and use the schedules to find what I want. I hope a better solution can be found. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
Budgie wrote: what is the best way find required PID or URL to continue to get programmes while we can? Aside from the usual way of manually extracting the PID/URL from the iPlayer site page there are a few scripts popping up which seem to be used with Firefox in some way. I don't use Firefox so you might have to look into that but the info is in this thread: https://squarepenguin.co.uk/forums/topic/downloading-using-multiple-pids/ ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On 30/10/2014 04:16, User Name wrote: I found that by co-opting (and modifying slightly the behaviour of) the --refreshfuture cmdline option, I was able to re-populate the cache with a fair amount of stuff. I have modified the 2.86 git version of the get_iplayer.pl script I have on Windows (precisely, from git branch f109d22). If you're using this as a stopgap, keep in mind that it will only give you programmes through the previous Monday. So, come Monday morning I think your cache will become rather depleted again and most searches will fail. For programmes like Doctor Who with series stacking, the latest episode may be available even if older. And of course, this breaks the "future" in --refreshfuture, though I doubt anyone is concerned about that at the moment. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 18:29:50 -0400 "Timothy" wrote: > Well crap. This means all the RSS feeds are now gone. I was already > struggling with the new iPlayer interface before and was so glad for > the RSS feeds. Now they just abruptly disappear and I'm left > floundering. Lovely. Looking at the replacement for said feeds, there > doesn't seem to be any information for end-user access. It's all > developer-based. > > I guess this means I'll have to deal with the inherently visual > nature of BBC iPlayer's site from now on? *sigh* This is what I get > for being a complacent blindy... Timothy I got on with the RSS feeds too, more information per programme would have been nice but it was just so much better than their graphic-based website. As someone who can see the website is still awful! It needs a lot of scrolling about in an artificially small pane (where some content is visible, but obscured by a trendy translucent element). Items have to be mouse-overed to get information and so it is very tedious to use. There are also adverts to avoid, like the ones for proprietary communication networks. Those adverts often being done with fonts must be wonderfully useless and confusing for the partially-sighted too! Personally yesterday when I had to use the iplayer website I turned off the page style so that I could find what I wanted! I didn't want to systematically have to scour a page it's worse than that, it isn't like being faced with a broadsheet-sized page of text, the web site has to have lots of looking AND interacting, checking the proprietary interface doesn't have some silly and unexpected feature. And they use lots of pictures, most of which are meaningless to those that don't watch the programme. Just random grinning kids and middle-aged wallies, WTF are they meant to mean? In the end I figured out their URLs, got onto the categories I wanted manually changed things, and bookmarked all the tabs. Hopefully this will do as a stop-gap until some RSS comes back and I can just have a nice text interface again. One key to move between categories, etc.. Plus with my RSS reader I build up my own record of what has been on, and maybe the best bit, the RSS feeds were repeat free! http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/categories/comedy/all?sort=dateavailable http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/categories/history/all?sort=dateavailable http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/categories/science-and-nature/all?sort=dateavailable http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/categories/music/all?sort=dateavailable http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/categories/documentaries/all?sort=dateavailable http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/categories/news/all?sort=dateavailable What I pulled by RSS was more granular than the above, but at least the above pages show programmes sort-of like my RSS reader, newest programmes at the top of a list. Nick ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On 29/10/14 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so search and PVR functions no longer work. There is no programme information to cache, and it was the cache that supported search and PVR functions. There is no fix available at this time. You can still download individual programmes via PID or URL. http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/tv/feeds ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer I wondered if something was wrong when I tried to get the radio index yesterday and found only one programme! The podcast index still works but then these podcasts are, I believe, always available. I have read but not studied the threads above concerning changes at the BBC and I mentioned over a year ago the implications for possible future encryption if they changed. Looks like this may be happening by degree. meanwhile for a non coder, what is the best way find required PID or URL to continue to get programmes while we can? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [Get-iPlayer] RE: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On 30/10/14 04:16, User Name wrote: > I found that by co-opting (and modifying slightly the behaviour of) the > --refreshfuture cmdline option, I was able to re-populate the cache with a > fair amount of stuff. I have modified the 2.86 git version of the > get_iplayer.pl script I have on Windows (precisely, from git branch f109d22). ... Brilliant! Thanks ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
Thank you User Name for a great temporary workaround, at least for now. I altered the get_iplayer script as you suggest (but in my case in Ubuntu Linux, Mint 17) and it appears to work for radio programmes. Peter On Thu, 30 Oct, 2014 at 4:16 AM, User Name wrote: I found that by co-opting (and modifying slightly the behaviour of) the --refreshfuture cmdline option, I was able to re-populate the cache with a fair amount of stuff. I have modified the 2.86 git version of the get_iplayer.pl script I have on Windows (precisely, from git branch f109d22). In the get_links sub, I changed schedule_feeds to: my @schedule_feeds = ( "http://www.bbc.co.uk/${channel_id}/this_week.xml";, "http://www.bbc.co.uk/${channel_id}/last_week.xml";, ); and then reversed the sense of: # Don't create this prog instance if the availablity is in the past # this prevents programmes which never appear in iPlayer from being indexed next if Programme::get_time_string( $available ) < $now; to: next if Programme::get_time_string( $available )> $now; Now when I perform, e.g.: "%Windir%\system32\cmd.exe" /c get_iplayer --refresh --type radio --refreshfuture or "%Windir%\system32\cmd.exe" /c get_iplayer --refresh --type tv --refreshfuture my radio.cache (or tv.cache) is repopulated with a wealth of metadata. Subsequently downloading content with this cache (at least I've tried for flashaaclow radio) leaves me with files populated with a (albeit wrong/generic iPlayer) thumbnail and what appears to be at least some of the correct tagging. The only down-side so far seems to be that some progs are missing from before (e.g. Doctor Who Extra in the tv.cache). Presumably these are non-broadcast-schedule files, e.g. red-button-esque web-only iPlayer features. Hope this is of use and might give more clues towards a solution. m Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:40:54 + From: dinkypump...@gmail.com To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org Subject: Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available On 29/10/2014 19:13, dinkypumpkin wrote: On 29/10/2014 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so Some follow-up: And some more: You may find some screwy metadata in your downloads as well. If fields formerly found in the now-dead data feeds aren't overwritten by values in other metadata sources, you will see some junk data containing a warning about feeds being no longer available. It has also been reported that thumbnails aren't downloaded for programmes less than 7 days old when downloaded via --pid. I think both of these issues are due to pre-existing problems in get_iplayer that have only come to light with the data feeds gone. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On 29/10/14 22:29, Timothy wrote: dinkypumpkin: The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer... Well crap. This means all the RSS feeds are now gone. I was already struggling with the new iPlayer interface before and was so glad for the RSS feeds. Now they just abruptly disappear and I'm left floundering. Lovely. Looking at the replacement for said feeds, there doesn't seem to be any information for end-user access. It's all developer-based. I guess this means I'll have to deal with the inherently visual nature of BBC iPlayer's site from now on? *sigh* This is what I get for being a complacent blindy... I don't suppose there's any mileage in your pointing them in the direction of the Disability Discrimination Act 1995 (Part III, section 19)[1]? It wouldn't normally carry a lot of weight sadly but this is the BBC we're talking about so you'd think they might pay some attention to it. -- Paul [1] http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1995/50/section/19 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On Wed Oct 29 19:13:12 GMT 2014, dinkypumpkin wrote: There are other sources of programme data, so I think it's possible to restore get_iplayer search capability to some degree. Are the following XML feeds any good for building up a 7 day radio cache for (at least) National Radio? http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio1.xml http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio2.xml http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio3.xml http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio4.xml http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/radio4extra.xml http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/fivelive.xml http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/availability/6music.xml Thanks to Vangelis for noting that podcast search/download is unaffected. One thing that's weird but interesting is the fact they haven't (yet?) removed the FUTURE feeds; indeed, when I run: get_iplayer -f --refresh-future and get_iplayer --type=radio -f --refresh-future --force the respective TV & Radio caches are populated with corresponding future content. I can search that future content, e.g. get_iplayer --type=radio --future "Pete Tong" Matches: 13239: Pete Tong - Marco Carola After-Hours Mix, BBC Radio 1, 13240: Pete Tong - 07/11/2014, BBC Radio 1, INFO: 2 Matching Programmes but, of course, cannot download it... And this future-only cache is deleted when the radio.cache is refreshed automatically or manually... EDIT: I just browsed User Name's post here: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/get_iplayer/2014-October/006284.html It looks as though he made good use of the "Future" feeds! (I read his post just prior to finishing mine...). Will apply his patch later in the day- must "fly" now... Vangelis. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
That’s a massive help! I’ve applied that to the quick caching server for GiA. Good, quick, interim fix until we come up with something better. > On Oct 29, 2014, at 9:16 PM, User Name wrote: > > I found that by co-opting (and modifying slightly the behaviour of) the > --refreshfuture cmdline option, I was able to re-populate the cache with a > fair amount of stuff. I have modified the 2.86 git version of the > get_iplayer.pl script I have on Windows (precisely, from git branch f109d22). > > > In the get_links sub, I changed schedule_feeds to: > > my @schedule_feeds = ( >"http://www.bbc.co.uk/${channel_id}/this_week.xml";, >"http://www.bbc.co.uk/${channel_id}/last_week.xml";, > ); > > > and then reversed the sense of: > > # Don't create this prog instance if the availablity is in the past > # this prevents programmes which never appear in iPlayer from being > indexed > next if Programme::get_time_string( $available ) < $now; > > > to: > > > next if Programme::get_time_string( $available )> $now; > > > Now when I perform, e.g.: > > > "%Windir%\system32\cmd.exe" /c get_iplayer --refresh --type radio > --refreshfuture > > or > > "%Windir%\system32\cmd.exe" /c get_iplayer --refresh --type tv --refreshfuture > > > my radio.cache (or tv.cache) is repopulated with a wealth of metadata. > > Subsequently downloading content with this cache (at least I've tried for > flashaaclow radio) leaves me with files populated with a (albeit > wrong/generic iPlayer) thumbnail and what appears to be at least some of the > correct tagging. > > > The only down-side so far seems to be that some progs are missing from before > (e.g. Doctor Who Extra in the tv.cache). Presumably these are > non-broadcast-schedule files, e.g. red-button-esque web-only iPlayer features. > > > Hope this is of use and might give more clues towards a solution. > > > m > > > > ---- >> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:40:54 + >> From: dinkypump...@gmail.com >> To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> Subject: Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no >> fix available >> >> On 29/10/2014 19:13, dinkypumpkin wrote: >>> On 29/10/2014 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: >>>> The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so >>> >>> Some follow-up: >> >> And some more: >> >> You may find some screwy metadata in your downloads as well. If fields >> formerly found in the now-dead data feeds aren't overwritten by values >> in other metadata sources, you will see some junk data containing a >> warning about feeds being no longer available. It has also been >> reported that thumbnails aren't downloaded for programmes less than 7 >> days old when downloaded via --pid. I think both of these issues are due >> to pre-existing problems in get_iplayer that have only come to light >> with the data feeds gone. >> >> >> >> ___ >> get_iplayer mailing list >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer >> > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
I found that by co-opting (and modifying slightly the behaviour of) the --refreshfuture cmdline option, I was able to re-populate the cache with a fair amount of stuff. I have modified the 2.86 git version of the get_iplayer.pl script I have on Windows (precisely, from git branch f109d22). In the get_links sub, I changed schedule_feeds to: my @schedule_feeds = ( "http://www.bbc.co.uk/${channel_id}/this_week.xml";, "http://www.bbc.co.uk/${channel_id}/last_week.xml";, ); and then reversed the sense of: # Don't create this prog instance if the availablity is in the past # this prevents programmes which never appear in iPlayer from being indexed next if Programme::get_time_string( $available ) < $now; to: next if Programme::get_time_string( $available )> $now; Now when I perform, e.g.: "%Windir%\system32\cmd.exe" /c get_iplayer --refresh --type radio --refreshfuture or "%Windir%\system32\cmd.exe" /c get_iplayer --refresh --type tv --refreshfuture my radio.cache (or tv.cache) is repopulated with a wealth of metadata. Subsequently downloading content with this cache (at least I've tried for flashaaclow radio) leaves me with files populated with a (albeit wrong/generic iPlayer) thumbnail and what appears to be at least some of the correct tagging. The only down-side so far seems to be that some progs are missing from before (e.g. Doctor Who Extra in the tv.cache). Presumably these are non-broadcast-schedule files, e.g. red-button-esque web-only iPlayer features. Hope this is of use and might give more clues towards a solution. m > Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:40:54 + > From: dinkypump...@gmail.com > To: get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > Subject: Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no > fix available > > On 29/10/2014 19:13, dinkypumpkin wrote: >> On 29/10/2014 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: >>> The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so >> >> Some follow-up: > > And some more: > > You may find some screwy metadata in your downloads as well. If fields > formerly found in the now-dead data feeds aren't overwritten by values > in other metadata sources, you will see some junk data containing a > warning about feeds being no longer available. It has also been > reported that thumbnails aren't downloaded for programmes less than 7 > days old when downloaded via --pid. I think both of these issues are due > to pre-existing problems in get_iplayer that have only come to light > with the data feeds gone. > > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 29 October 2014 23:27:57 GMT+00:00, Lorenzo Martinelli wrote: >Can somebody write up a idiot* guide to download a program using PID or > >URL on Windows? >Including how to find out the PID. > >For instance, if I wanted to download Autumnwatch what do I do? I wrote a very basic guide here: https://squarepenguin.co.uk/guides/tv-download-guide/#How_do_I_record_a_programme_with_get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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Lorenzo Martinelli wrote: >The first episode is here: >http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04n8zdp/autumnwatch-20... The pid (programme id) is this: b04n8zdp To fetch it you need to issue a get_iplayer command including --pid b04n8zdp in the arguments to the command. How you issue a command, and making sure it works for you, depend to some extent on how you've set up your computer. I'm sure someone posted a link to relevant help. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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"Timothy" wrote: > I guess this means I'll have to deal with the inherently visual nature of > BBC iPlayer's site from now on? *sigh* This is what I get for being a > complacent blindy... Maybe a complaint/request for help from the BBC from the point of view of a partially- or non- sighted user would help us all... How do the BBC expect people who can't use trendy websites to access information? They're surely meant to have thought of that. -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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:-( I'm very disappointed! Can somebody write up a idiot* guide to download a program using PID or URL on Windows? Including how to find out the PID. For instance, if I wanted to download Autumnwatch what do I do? The first episode is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04n8zdp/autumnwatch-2014-episode-1#group=p02914k4 Thanks Lorenzo * Me, for instance On 29/10/2014 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so search and PVR functions no longer work. There is no programme information to cache, and it was the cache that supported search and PVR functions. There is no fix available at this time. You can still download individual programmes via PID or URL. http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/tv/feeds ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer -- _ Lorenzo Martinelli, MITIA Italian Translations -- Words you can rely on http://www.italianwords.it -- http://www.martinelli.co.uk _ ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 29/10/2014 21:40, David Lake (dlake) wrote: "Alternatively, maybe some kind of proxy for the metadata can be used." You mean, like this ? http://atlas.metabroadcast.com/#home I looked at this before. Their T&Cs appear to preclude any sort of caching proxy arrangement. They also appear to preclude - or at least heavily discourage - full local caching as get_iplayer has done. They also make it clear they want every user to have an api key, so every user could be tracked individually. Fair enough - they make their money on stats, no doubt. The other options are too expensive for get_iplayer. It might be one way to go if necessity dictates, but I don't think we are there yet. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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dinkypumpkin: The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer... Well crap. This means all the RSS feeds are now gone. I was already struggling with the new iPlayer interface before and was so glad for the RSS feeds. Now they just abruptly disappear and I'm left floundering. Lovely. Looking at the replacement for said feeds, there doesn't seem to be any information for end-user access. It's all developer-based. I guess this means I'll have to deal with the inherently visual nature of BBC iPlayer's site from now on? *sigh* This is what I get for being a complacent blindy... Timothy ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 29 Oct 2014, at 22:40, David Lake (dlake) wrote: > "Alternatively, maybe some kind of proxy for the metadata can be used." > > You mean, like this ? > > http://atlas.metabroadcast.com/#home yes that looks like an option. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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this % curl http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/guide/bbc/20141029 | grep /iplayer/episode thows out some useful stuff; for example, searching for "design" in todays iplayer schedule: % curl http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/guide/bbc/20141029 | grep /iplayer/episode | grep -i design yields http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
It sucks big time. I can't see any easy way using iplayer to, for example, list all radio dramas from the last few days. I often do this, pick something interesting, get all the episodes (and that could be over several weeks), listen to them in the car, delete. Rinse and repeat. Since finding get_iplayer I have listened to more BBC radio output than any other time in the past 20 years! On Wed, 29/10/14, Owen Smith wrote: Subject: Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available To: "get_iplayer" Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2014, 13:34 Well this sucks. Does anyone know if it will affect the Squeezebox iPlayer radio plugin as well? I'm assuming it does at the moment. -- Owen Smith Cambridge, UK On 29 Oct 2014, at 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: > The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so search and PVR functions no longer work. There is no programme information to cache, and it was the cache that supported search and PVR functions. There is no fix available at this time. You can still download individual programmes via PID or URL. > > http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/tv/feeds > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
RE: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
"Alternatively, maybe some kind of proxy for the metadata can be used." You mean, like this ? http://atlas.metabroadcast.com/#home -Original Message- From: get_iplayer [mailto:get_iplayer-boun...@lists.infradead.org] On Behalf Of Conrad Wood Sent: 29 October 2014 13:09 To: dinkypumpkin Cc: get_iplayer Subject: Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available > I don't see Nitro as a solution for get_iplayer, at least not directly. > You can be sure that get_iplayer wouldn't get direct access, and > even if that were possible, rate limiting and other restrictions might > be too tight. There are still details missing, and as Jeremy noted, > outsiders can't see Nitro yet. > Wouldn't it be sufficient for each user to request access? So get_iplayer could use a user-specified api-key to access nitro. It's not ideal, but depending on the bbc policy it might be workable. tbh I did not find much information about the policy under which the api is made available on the website yet. Alternatively, maybe some kind of proxy for the metadata can be used. get_iplayer could query the proxy, which in turn queries the bbc nitro api and caches the result. This way, the rate-limiting wouldn't hurt to much. Conrad ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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> That's one model. It depends on caching policies, geographic > restrictions and other terms as yet unknown. Even if all that were > worked out, it means get_iplayer would require a central resource > that somebody would have to pay for and maintain. Personally, I > don't want go down that road except as a last resort. We're not > there yet. You've still got the problem of getting a developer key too. Hopefully a suitable alternative data feed turns up. (What do the BBC's mobile and console apps use, for instance...?) Otherwise, another possibility is scraping the web frontend of iPlayer, rather than relying on using any API at all. The downside is that it would take a while for a client to iterate through the entire programme listings. Which brings it back to the non-ideal solution of having a central server that collects the data regularly and builds a feed. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 29/10/2014 20:08, Conrad Wood wrote: Wouldn't it be sufficient for each user to request access? Time could prove me wrong, but I can't conceive that would ever happen. I don't imagine the BBC want to get into retailing a developer API. Alternatively, maybe some kind of proxy for the metadata can be used. get_iplayer could query the proxy, which in turn queries the bbc nitro api and caches the result. This way, the rate-limiting wouldn't hurt to much. That's one model. It depends on caching policies, geographic restrictions and other terms as yet unknown. Even if all that were worked out, it means get_iplayer would require a central resource that somebody would have to pay for and maintain. Personally, I don't want go down that road except as a last resort. We're not there yet. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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> I don't see Nitro as a solution for get_iplayer, at least not directly. > You can be sure that get_iplayer wouldn't get direct access, and even > if that were possible, rate limiting and other restrictions might be too > tight. There are still details missing, and as Jeremy noted, outsiders > can't see Nitro yet. > Wouldn't it be sufficient for each user to request access? So get_iplayer could use a user-specified api-key to access nitro. It's not ideal, but depending on the bbc policy it might be workable. tbh I did not find much information about the policy under which the api is made available on the website yet. Alternatively, maybe some kind of proxy for the metadata can be used. get_iplayer could query the proxy, which in turn queries the bbc nitro api and caches the result. This way, the rate-limiting wouldn't hurt to much. Conrad ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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> I don't see Nitro as a solution for get_iplayer, at least not directly. > You can be sure that get_iplayer wouldn't get direct access, and even > if that were possible, rate limiting and other restrictions might be too > tight. There are still details missing, and as Jeremy noted, outsiders > can't see Nitro yet. > Wouldn't it be sufficient for each user to request access? So get_iplayer could use a user-specified api-key to access nitro. It's not ideal, but depending on the bbc policy it might be workable. tbh I did not find much information about the policy under which the api is made available on the website yet. Alternatively, maybe some kind of proxy for the metadata can be used. get_iplayer could query the proxy, which in turn queries the bbc nitro api and caches the result. This way, the rate-limiting wouldn't hurt to much. Conrad ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On 29/10/2014 19:13, dinkypumpkin wrote: On 29/10/2014 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so Some follow-up: And some more: You may find some screwy metadata in your downloads as well. If fields formerly found in the now-dead data feeds aren't overwritten by values in other metadata sources, you will see some junk data containing a warning about feeds being no longer available. It has also been reported that thumbnails aren't downloaded for programmes less than 7 days old when downloaded via --pid. I think both of these issues are due to pre-existing problems in get_iplayer that have only come to light with the data feeds gone. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On 29/10/2014 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so Some follow-up: There are other sources of programme data, so I think it's possible to restore get_iplayer search capability to some degree. I haven't yet had a chance to dig in to it. I sounded the alarm today because get_iplayer was pushed off a cliff overnight, and users need to know to take extra measures for the immediate feature. Thanks to Vangelis for noting that podcast search/download is unaffected. I omitted that from my original post. I don't see Nitro as a solution for get_iplayer, at least not directly. You can be sure that get_iplayer wouldn't get direct access, and even if that were possible, rate limiting and other restrictions might be too tight. There are still details missing, and as Jeremy noted, outsiders can't see Nitro yet. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
I'm going to an open evening the iplayer team are having in early December in Salford , and I expect to be able to speak directly to the iplayer product team so if you have any questions let me know and I'll see if I can get them answered. On 29 October 2014 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: > The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so search > and PVR functions no longer work. There is no programme information to > cache, and it was the cache that supported search and PVR functions. There > is no fix available at this time. You can still download individual > programmes via PID or URL. > > http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/tv/feeds > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer -- Paul Phillips ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On 29/10/14 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so search and PVR functions no longer work. There is no programme information to cache, and it was the cache that supported search and PVR functions. There is no fix available at this time.[...] Is that comment I've just posted from the slimdevices forum any help? They seem to be using an "official" XML feed ... -- Paul ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 17:19:19 + Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: > Does this mean that all the built-in iPlayer functionality on various > manufacturers' TVs etc has just ceased to work? If I'd bought such a > TV I'd be feeling really annoyed at this point. I should think there are plenty of get_iplayer users who use it, and other FOSS, because we have seen the kind of BS industry will pull. Planned obsolescence is bad with physical goods, but software and digital things are just out of hand! Yeah, there'll be annoyed customers (um, consumers, gotta use the dehumanising business jargon), but the lawyers will have covered things in the walls of legalese - no guarantees on the "smart" bit of the TV. But most customers will fall for the "upgrade" line likely coming back if they do raise a complaint. They'll accept the unstated axiom that the old machine was somehow genuinely unable to do certain things and now a new one is necessary. They won't notice a complaint being changed into a sales attempt (and I know I am not immune to applied-psychology! My house is full of crap I didn't need, I was convinced I needed it when at most it was drummed-up want). Nick ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [Get-iPlayer] Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On 29/10/14 17:19, Jeremy Nicoll - ml get_iplayer wrote: > dinkypumpkin wrote: > >> The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer... > > Hell. Even if I have to resort to the BBC website to watch streamed > programmes, or use get_iplayer to download by pids researched online, the > programme data was invaluable for telling me about episodes of things that > had suddenly become available. I agree. I am thinking about how feasible it would be to use the API to create a web site which allowed users to register a search string or choose a series and get notification when a new episode is made available (e.g. an email with the iPlayer URL to play it). ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 13:20:19 + dinkypumpkin wrote: > The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so > search and PVR functions no longer work. There is no programme > information to cache, and it was the cache that supported search and > PVR functions. There is no fix available at this time. You can still > download individual programmes via PID or URL. > > http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/tv/feeds > This is annoying, the RSS feeds have gone and it looks like the only thing in the meantime (assuming nitro provides what RSS did - I doubt it (my bet is a privacy cost)) is the terrible iplayer website. All mouse-overs and shiny-shiny and graphics and other web gimmicks - I think they follow that stupid fashion of simulating frames with fixed elements (the nitro developer site does). Frames were poor 15 years ago, they are still no good even though the effect is currently trendy. In fact they are often worse now, vertical pixels are relatively scarce these days compared to the days of 4:3 screens! >From a bit of a look at the nitro stuff it looks like the BBC have got some contractor in, Apigee. They provide analytics and other forms of web2.0 spyware, I doubt the mostly anonymous use of iplayer that can be done now is going to be tolerated. Oh well, Channel 4 make things unusable too, I guess the same workaround will be needed for the BBC stuff Nick ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
dinkypumpkin wrote: >The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer... Hell. Even if I have to resort to the BBC website to watch streamed programmes, or use get_iplayer to download by pids researched online, the programme data was invaluable for telling me about episodes of things that had suddenly become available. Does this mean that all the built-in iPlayer functionality on various manufacturers' TVs etc has just ceased to work? If I'd bought such a TV I'd be feeling really annoyed at this point. Maybe, if this IS the case, the flood of negative publicity that's likely to ensue will make the BBC open up their new API more quickly. (At the moment the API is unusable without a key, and only internal BBC developers get to register for such a key, so far as I can see.) -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
I started up the Windows PVR Manager and then refreshed the BBC Radio cache, and got this: The cache will auto-refresh every 1 hour(s) if you leave this page open INFO: Getting radio Index Feeds ...WARNING: Failed to get programme index feed for bbc_radio_oxford from iplayer site . Added: 10001: BBC iPlayer Feeds - -, BBC Manchester, Highlights,Popular INFO: 0 Matching Programmes Flushed Programme Caches for Types: radio = Tried again and got; The cache will auto-refresh every 1 hour(s) if you leave this page open INFO: Getting radio Index Feeds INFO: 0 Matching Programmes Flushed Programme Caches for Types: radio = Seems like its all gone to pot. CJB. On Wed, 29/10/14, dinkypumpkin wrote: Subject: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available To: "get_iplayer" Date: Wednesday, 29 October, 2014, 13:20 The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so search and PVR functions no longer work. There is no programme information to cache, and it was the cache that supported search and PVR functions. There is no fix available at this time. You can still download individual programmes via PID or URL. http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/tv/feeds ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
-Original Message- From: Square Penguin Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 2:11 PM To: dinkypumpkin Cc: get_iplayer Subject: Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available Sad news. Following the links and reading through the new API docs I'm left a little unsure as to what the BBC wants from this new setup. Seems to be working just fine for me still, but there again, I only ever download by PID. Chris ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
dinkypumpkin wrote: http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/tv/feeds Sad news. Following the links and reading through the new API docs I'm left a little unsure as to what the BBC wants from this new setup. Leaving aside the technical benefits it'll be interesting to see how they seek to control the access to their data. According to what the docs say, the data required to make get_iplayer work again should ostensibly be available (once Nitro goes public and if get_iplayer was altered to use such data, no small task in itself) but the use of API keys, rate limiting and ambiguous statements like 'don't build another iPlayer' doesn't really fill me with confidence that get_iplayer would be 'allowed'. I personally think get_iplayer fills a crucial niche in allowing people to access content on devices that physically can't use the BBC's own products and it is a sad day indeed that much of it's current functionality has been hobbled. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: [ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
Well this sucks. Does anyone know if it will affect the Squeezebox iPlayer radio plugin as well? I'm assuming it does at the moment. -- Owen Smith Cambridge, UK On 29 Oct 2014, at 13:20, dinkypumpkin wrote: > The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so search > and PVR functions no longer work. There is no programme information to cache, > and it was the cache that supported search and PVR functions. There is no fix > available at this time. You can still download individual programmes via PID > or URL. > > http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/tv/feeds > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
[ANN] get_iplayer search and PVR functions no longer work - no fix available
The BBC have removed the programme data feeds used by get_iplayer, so search and PVR functions no longer work. There is no programme information to cache, and it was the cache that supported search and PVR functions. There is no fix available at this time. You can still download individual programmes via PID or URL. http://iplayerhelp.external.bbc.co.uk/tv/feeds ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer