Re: License question
On 3 September 2016 at 10:11, Jonathan H wrote: > > Original article here: > http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technology/bbc-closes-loophole-for-whiny-freeloaders-20160902113219 > For those not in the know, and to avoid further confusion, The Daily Mash is a parody news site. Kind of a British version of The Onion, only not quite as clever. Or as funny. Sometimes it's very funny, but not often. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 03/09/16 13:32, Jim web wrote: In article , Colin Law wrote: Unless I missed the irony and they made him up. I fear not. I think you did. The whole article is intended as a joke. It did make me laugh. :-) But now reminds me of the American dictionary definition irony: contains iron. 8-] Jim Humour by pass here, I should have known better. M ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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In article , Colin Law wrote: > > Unless I missed the irony and they made him up. I fear not. > I think you did. The whole article is intended as a joke. It did make me laugh. :-) But now reminds me of the American dictionary definition irony: contains iron. 8-] Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 3 September 2016 at 12:28, michael norman wrote: > On 03/09/16 10:11, Jonathan H wrote: >> >> I don't think you'll see a better summary of the situation than this. >> And yes, I realise the irony of copying and pasting an entire >> advertising-funded page, but when the advert covers the entire page >> and makes the article unreadable then I think it's fair use! (see >> http://tinypic.com/r/15fxxf/9 ) >> >> Original article here: >> >> http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technology/bbc-closes-loophole-for-whiny-freeloaders-20160902113219 >> (warning: contains a swear which I've starred out here in case the >> list rejects is) >> >> PEOPLE with an absurd sense of entitlement will no longer be able to >> watch BBC iPlayer for free, the broadcaster has confirmed. >> >> The broadcaster closed the loophole, which allowed people access to >> billions of pounds worth of entertainment for free, yesterday after a >> high-level decision that those people could go f**k themselves. >> >> Craft beer ambassador Tom Booker said: “I don’t own a television, I >> don’t have a television aerial on the chimney of my house, I don’t >> even have a house. I’m contemporary. >> >> “So when I’m watching Bake-Off ironically on my MacBook I shouldn’t be >> liable for any licence fee, because what I am doing is completely >> different and cooler. >> >> “YouTube’s free, and I don’t see the distinction between high-quality >> content by a broadcasting organisation which is the envy of the world >> and blurred smartphone footage of teenagers punching each other’s >> groins. >> >> “Where does this end? Paying for music?” >> >> A BBC spokesman said: “We’ve got Attenborough, you whiny bitches, so pay >> up.” >> >> ___ >> get_iplayer mailing list >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer >> > I think I'll find out where Craft Beer contemporary man brews his beer and > arrange to syphon off some of his beer and drink it for nothing, in my > hipster tree house, safe in the knowledge that I am being really cool. If > not paying for content paid for by others is acceptable then "all property > is theft" including his beer. > > Unless I missed the irony and they made him up. I fear not. I think you did. The whole article is intended as a joke. Colin > > You Tube is only "free" in the sense that you don't have to pay upfront, it > makes its money by selling your data, and not paying very much for the > professionally produced content it does carry. > > Try watching Netflix, Amazon et al for nothing > > M > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: License question
On 03/09/16 10:11, Jonathan H wrote: I don't think you'll see a better summary of the situation than this. And yes, I realise the irony of copying and pasting an entire advertising-funded page, but when the advert covers the entire page and makes the article unreadable then I think it's fair use! (see http://tinypic.com/r/15fxxf/9 ) Original article here: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technology/bbc-closes-loophole-for-whiny-freeloaders-20160902113219 (warning: contains a swear which I've starred out here in case the list rejects is) PEOPLE with an absurd sense of entitlement will no longer be able to watch BBC iPlayer for free, the broadcaster has confirmed. The broadcaster closed the loophole, which allowed people access to billions of pounds worth of entertainment for free, yesterday after a high-level decision that those people could go f**k themselves. Craft beer ambassador Tom Booker said: “I don’t own a television, I don’t have a television aerial on the chimney of my house, I don’t even have a house. I’m contemporary. “So when I’m watching Bake-Off ironically on my MacBook I shouldn’t be liable for any licence fee, because what I am doing is completely different and cooler. “YouTube’s free, and I don’t see the distinction between high-quality content by a broadcasting organisation which is the envy of the world and blurred smartphone footage of teenagers punching each other’s groins. “Where does this end? Paying for music?” A BBC spokesman said: “We’ve got Attenborough, you whiny bitches, so pay up.” ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer I think I'll find out where Craft Beer contemporary man brews his beer and arrange to syphon off some of his beer and drink it for nothing, in my hipster tree house, safe in the knowledge that I am being really cool. If not paying for content paid for by others is acceptable then "all property is theft" including his beer. Unless I missed the irony and they made him up. I fear not. You Tube is only "free" in the sense that you don't have to pay upfront, it makes its money by selling your data, and not paying very much for the professionally produced content it does carry. Try watching Netflix, Amazon et al for nothing M ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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I don't think you'll see a better summary of the situation than this. And yes, I realise the irony of copying and pasting an entire advertising-funded page, but when the advert covers the entire page and makes the article unreadable then I think it's fair use! (see http://tinypic.com/r/15fxxf/9 ) Original article here: http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/science-technology/bbc-closes-loophole-for-whiny-freeloaders-20160902113219 (warning: contains a swear which I've starred out here in case the list rejects is) PEOPLE with an absurd sense of entitlement will no longer be able to watch BBC iPlayer for free, the broadcaster has confirmed. The broadcaster closed the loophole, which allowed people access to billions of pounds worth of entertainment for free, yesterday after a high-level decision that those people could go f**k themselves. Craft beer ambassador Tom Booker said: “I don’t own a television, I don’t have a television aerial on the chimney of my house, I don’t even have a house. I’m contemporary. “So when I’m watching Bake-Off ironically on my MacBook I shouldn’t be liable for any licence fee, because what I am doing is completely different and cooler. “YouTube’s free, and I don’t see the distinction between high-quality content by a broadcasting organisation which is the envy of the world and blurred smartphone footage of teenagers punching each other’s groins. “Where does this end? Paying for music?” A BBC spokesman said: “We’ve got Attenborough, you whiny bitches, so pay up.” ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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In article , michael norman wrote: > > > > Yes, not many people read Robert A. Heinlein these days. I still find > > people who do not grok TANSTAAFL. What is more amazing is that there > > are people who honestly believe that there is such a thing as "Free > > Lunch". I am a firm believer in TANSTAAFL. > > > > On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:18 AM, John Bingham wrote: > Never heard of him either, just looked him up. Whether he was the first > to deny the existence of a free lunch I have no idea, its always struck > me that the principle is obvious, in this and other contexts the artist > has to be paid. AIUI, RAH's view was that TANSTAAFL was - or should be - obvious. But that it was depressingly common to find people who believed otherwise. He was a very popular author, and also wrote some interesting factual and opinion pieces. Sad that, along with others like John W Campbell, etc, he now seems to have been forgotten. But then those were the days when SF meant *Science* fiction rather than fantasy, and making people *think* was one of its main purposes for many. Jim -- Electronics http://www.st-and.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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I will point pout that some of us CAN'T pay the licence fee. There's no provision for us to pay. And I believe it's still the case that it's only required if you receive television, not for radio. Doug, USA, radio listener On 02/09/2016 13:24, artisticforge . wrote: Hello Yes, not many people read Robert A. Heinlein these days. I still find people who do not grok TANSTAAFL. What is more amazing is that there are people who honestly believe that there is such a thing as "Free Lunch". I am a firm believer in TANSTAAFL. Concerning the Beeb, if I had to pay a £1.00 GPB per day everyday of the year, I would still consider it a great value. On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:18 AM, John Bingham wrote: My second paragraph was a comment on a general problem in our society: people wanting something for nothing. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 02/09/16 20:23, Larry Yaeger wrote: I so sincerely wish I could pay the license fee. I'm an unwilling moocher from the US that would joyfully be a subscriber if they would only let me. I've been watching British telly since it was radio. I dearly love the Goons. Actually met Spike Milligan and Harry Secombe, at a do in Brighton. And I could go on for pages and pages of the British programming I've enjoyed over the years. I buy DVDs over here. I've bought tons of PAL VHS tapes and Region 2 DVDs in London over the 40+ years I've been visiting as often as possible, which required buying multi-standard players. I would and do happily "vote with my dollars" for Auntie Beeb, and agree she is the best single source of television programming on the planet. I've spent a lot of time in London, including a year on sabbatical, but I've never managed to actually move there. Anybody need a strong computer programmer on that side of the pond? :) Gadzooks, a fellow Goons fan. Sir, you have excellent taste! That said, I find the pejorative, condescending tone of some posters about non-subscribers offensive. It's corporate and political bureaucracy that prevents me from paying for my BBC programming, not anything I have control over. And if it bothers you that I watch this brilliant programming, well good. Suffer. You're just being a prig, and you deserve the angst. That's my 2p. I think the "pejorative comments" were aimed at UK viewers who don't pay, rather than those overseas, such as yourself, who have no option to pay! Alan ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 2 Sep 2016 at 12:23, Larry Yaeger Larry Yaeger wrote: > On Sep 2, 2016, at 11:13 AM, michael norman wrote: > > The licence fee is cheap. > > I so sincerely wish I could pay the license fee. I'm an unwilling moocher > from the US that would joyfully be a > subscriber if they would only let me. I've been watching British telly since > it was radio. I dearly love the Goons. > Actually met Spike Milligan and Harry Secombe, at a do in Brighton. And I > could go on for pages and pages of the > British programming I've enjoyed over the years. I buy DVDs over here. I've > bought tons of PAL VHS tapes and Region 2 > DVDs in London over the 40+ years I've been visiting as often as possible, > which required buying multi-standard > players. I would and do happily "vote with my dollars" for Auntie Beeb, and > agree she is the best single source of > television programming on the planet. I've spent a lot of time in London, > including a year on sabbatical, but I've > never managed to actually move there. Anybody need a strong computer > programmer on that side of the pond? :) > > That said, I find the pejorative, condescending tone of some posters about > non-subscribers offensive. It's corporate > and political bureaucracy that prevents me from paying for my BBC > programming, not anything I have control over. And > if it bothers you that I watch this brilliant programming, well good. > Suffer. You're just being a prig, and you > deserve the angst. That's my 2p. > > - larryy Good post. Peter ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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[Apologies if you receive this twice. I think the first send bounced because my email client added an HTML mailto link to the previous poster's email address. This time it should all be plain text.] On Sep 2, 2016, at 11:13 AM, michael norman wrote: > The licence fee is cheap. I so sincerely wish I could pay the license fee. I'm an unwilling moocher from the US that would joyfully be a subscriber if they would only let me. I've been watching British telly since it was radio. I dearly love the Goons. Actually met Spike Milligan and Harry Secombe, at a do in Brighton. And I could go on for pages and pages of the British programming I've enjoyed over the years. I buy DVDs over here. I've bought tons of PAL VHS tapes and Region 2 DVDs in London over the 40+ years I've been visiting as often as possible, which required buying multi-standard players. I would and do happily "vote with my dollars" for Auntie Beeb, and agree she is the best single source of television programming on the planet. I've spent a lot of time in London, including a year on sabbatical, but I've never managed to actually move there. Anybody need a strong computer programmer on that side of the pond? :) That said, I find the pejorative, condescending tone of some posters about non-subscribers offensive. It's corporate and political bureaucracy that prevents me from paying for my BBC programming, not anything I have control over. And if it bothers you that I watch this brilliant programming, well good. Suffer. You're just being a prig, and you deserve the angst. That's my 2p. - larryy P.S. Even though I replied to his message this is not directed at Michael Norman; I completely agree with his observation that the license fee is cheap, and more than worth it. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 02/09/16 18:24, artisticforge . wrote: Hello Yes, not many people read Robert A. Heinlein these days. I still find people who do not grok TANSTAAFL. What is more amazing is that there are people who honestly believe that there is such a thing as "Free Lunch". I am a firm believer in TANSTAAFL. Concerning the Beeb, if I had to pay a £1.00 GPB per day everyday of the year, I would still consider it a great value. Seconded. I've spent a fair amount of time in Canada, Australia and various countries in Asia and now spend part of the year in the Philippines - I can honestly say that the Beeb's output knocks the alternatives available from those countries (plus the offerings from the Yank Republic) into a cocked hat. Most of my viewing in the UK is Beeb produced content and when I'm not watching that it's continental drama (Nordic Noir, etc, not forgetting the excellent offerings from "Walter Presents" on All4.com). When I'm in the Philippines I watch a stack of Beeb programmes on an external hard drive. Can't beat it and like you I get annoyed with the anti-Beeb bitching and resentment of the present funding system! A ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 2 September 2016 at 19:13, michael norman wrote: > > The ironic thing here for me is that all the BBC is doing is asking people > to declare whether they are using iPlayer without paying for it . If you > feel happy using something you don't pay for that's on your conscience. As > far as I know the BBC don't have the means to enforce payment for using > iPlayer if you only use it on a non tv > > The licence fee is cheap. > Coincidentally I was just reading an article surmising exactly that: https://torrentfreak.com/new-bbc-iplayer-rules-easily-defeated-especially-via-vpn-160901/ ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 02/09/16 18:24, artisticforge . wrote: Hello Yes, not many people read Robert A. Heinlein these days. I still find people who do not grok TANSTAAFL. What is more amazing is that there are people who honestly believe that there is such a thing as "Free Lunch". I am a firm believer in TANSTAAFL. Concerning the Beeb, if I had to pay a £1.00 GPB per day everyday of the year, I would still consider it a great value. On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:18 AM, John Bingham wrote: My second paragraph was a comment on a general problem in our society: people wanting something for nothing. Never heard of him either, just looked him up. Whether he was the first to deny the existence of a free lunch I have no idea, its always struck me that the principle is obvious, in this and other contexts the artist has to be paid. The ironic thing here for me is that all the BBC is doing is asking people to declare whether they are using iPlayer without paying for it . If you feel happy using something you don't pay for that's on your conscience. As far as I know the BBC don't have the means to enforce payment for using iPlayer if you only use it on a non tv The licence fee is cheap. M ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On 02/09/16 15:01, Chris Marriott wrote: -Original Message- From: John Bingham Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 2:18 PM To: artisticforge . Cc: get_iplayer Subject: Re: License question I read the original post: "Beeb is asking if I have a license now, sigh". My first thought was that this prevented GiP, and hence my script, from working, so I checked it out (on Linux) and didn't find a problem. I thus deduced that the concern was probably from someone who didn't have a license. Of course, I don't know this to be true and apologise if my assumption was incorrect. The fact that the original poster used the American English spelling "license", rather than the British English "licence", suggests to me that he is not resident in the UK, and therefore does not actually require a licence. (In British English, "license" is a verb; "license" a noun. American English uses "license" for both.) You meant "license" is the verb and "licence" the noun! Must admit, I have a thing against the pervasive nature of creeping Americanisms into our language. With the dominance of American media, these days youngsters generally don't know how to spell British English. Sigh. A ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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Hello Yes, not many people read Robert A. Heinlein these days. I still find people who do not grok TANSTAAFL. What is more amazing is that there are people who honestly believe that there is such a thing as "Free Lunch". I am a firm believer in TANSTAAFL. Concerning the Beeb, if I had to pay a £1.00 GPB per day everyday of the year, I would still consider it a great value. On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 8:18 AM, John Bingham wrote: > > My second paragraph was a comment on a general problem in our society: > people wanting something for nothing. > -- terry l. ridder ><> ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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The originating IP address is from Plusnet in the UK. From network-tools.com 81.174.248.157 is from United Kingdom (UK) in region Western Europe Input: kernelbasher.plus.com canonical name: kernelbasher.plus.com Registered Domain: plus.com TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 81.174.248.157 [kernelbasher.plus.com] Hop (ms)(ms)(ms) IP Address Host name 1 1 0 0 206.123.64.217 - 2 0 0 0 206.123.64.46- 3 Timed out Timed out Timed out - 4 Timed out Timed out Timed out - 5 114 115 115 212.187.139.178 bt-net.ear2.london2.level3.net 6 112 112 112213.137.183.99 - 7 112 111 112 213.121.193.165 peer1-xe1-0-0.faraday.ukcore.bt.net 8 111 110 111195.99.126.139 - 9 120 122 120 84.93.249.36 irb.12.central12.ptn-bng01.plus.net 10124 124 12481.174.248.157 kernelbasher.plus.com Trace complete Retrieving DNS records for kernelbasher.plus.com... DNS servers ns1.force9.net ns2.force9.net Answer records kernelbasher.plus.com A 81.174.248.157 86400s kernelbasher.plus.com MX preference: 10 exchange: mx.avasin.plus.net 300s Authority records plus.comNS ns1.force9.net 86400s plus.comNS ns2.force9.net 86400s Additional records mx.avasin.plus.net A 212.159.9.200 3600s mx.avasin.plus.net A 212.159.8.200 3600s ns1.force9.net A 195.166.128.16 86400s ns2.force9.net A 195.166.128.17 86400s Whois query for plus.com... Results returned from whois.internic.net: Whois Server Version 2.0 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net for detailed information. Domain Name: PLUS.COM Registrar: ENOM, INC. Sponsoring Registrar IANA ID: 48 Whois Server: whois.enom.com Referral URL: http://www.enom.com Name Server: NS1.FORCE9.NET Name Server: NS1.PLUSNET.CO.UK Name Server: NS2.FORCE9.NET Name Server: NS2.PLUSNET.CO.UK Status: clientDeleteProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientDeleteProhibited Status: clientTransferProhibited https://icann.org/epp#clientTransferProhibited Updated Date: 14-dec-2015 Creation Date: 16-dec-1994 Expiration Date: 15-dec-2017 On 02/09/16 15:57, John Bingham wrote: I didn't know that British English had two spellings; I guess that could be true for others. Or maybe (like for most of us) his default spelling checker is US English. If he isn't in the UK, he shouldn't be downloading BBC programmes (or programs) anyway. On 02/09/16 15:01, Chris Marriott wrote: -Original Message- From: John Bingham Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 2:18 PM To: artisticforge . Cc: get_iplayer Subject: Re: License question I read the original post: "Beeb is asking if I have a license now, sigh". My first thought was that this prevented GiP, and hence my script, from working, so I checked it out (on Linux) and didn't find a problem. I thus deduced that the concern was probably from someone who didn't have a license. Of course, I don't know this to be true and apologise if my assumption was incorrect. The fact that the original poster used the American English spelling "license", rather than the British English "licence", suggests to me that he is not resident in the UK, and therefore does not actually require a licence. (In British English, "license" is a verb; "license" a noun. American English uses "license" for both.) Regards, Chris ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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I didn't know that British English had two spellings; I guess that could be true for others. Or maybe (like for most of us) his default spelling checker is US English. If he isn't in the UK, he shouldn't be downloading BBC programmes (or programs) anyway. On 02/09/16 15:01, Chris Marriott wrote: -Original Message- From: John Bingham Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 2:18 PM To: artisticforge . Cc: get_iplayer Subject: Re: License question I read the original post: "Beeb is asking if I have a license now, sigh". My first thought was that this prevented GiP, and hence my script, from working, so I checked it out (on Linux) and didn't find a problem. I thus deduced that the concern was probably from someone who didn't have a license. Of course, I don't know this to be true and apologise if my assumption was incorrect. The fact that the original poster used the American English spelling "license", rather than the British English "licence", suggests to me that he is not resident in the UK, and therefore does not actually require a licence. (In British English, "license" is a verb; "license" a noun. American English uses "license" for both.) Regards, Chris ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 03:01:44PM +0100, Chris Marriott wrote: [...] > The fact that the original poster used the American English spelling > "license", rather than the British English "licence", suggests to me that he > is not resident in the UK, and therefore does not actually require a licence. You're reading far too much into that. Not everybody is familiar with this bizarre edge case of spelling, and loads of people get it wrong. The sender is almost certainly in the UK, because if they were not, they'd have seen a message along the lines of "iPlayer is not accessible from outside the UK" instead. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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-Original Message- From: John Bingham Sent: Friday, September 2, 2016 2:18 PM To: artisticforge . Cc: get_iplayer Subject: Re: License question I read the original post: "Beeb is asking if I have a license now, sigh". My first thought was that this prevented GiP, and hence my script, from working, so I checked it out (on Linux) and didn't find a problem. I thus deduced that the concern was probably from someone who didn't have a license. Of course, I don't know this to be true and apologise if my assumption was incorrect. The fact that the original poster used the American English spelling "license", rather than the British English "licence", suggests to me that he is not resident in the UK, and therefore does not actually require a licence. (In British English, "license" is a verb; "license" a noun. American English uses "license" for both.) Regards, Chris ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
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I read the original post: "Beeb is asking if I have a license now, sigh". My first thought was that this prevented GiP, and hence my script, from working, so I checked it out (on Linux) and didn't find a problem. I thus deduced that the concern was probably from someone who didn't have a license. Of course, I don't know this to be true and apologise if my assumption was incorrect. My second paragraph was a comment on a general problem in our society: people wanting something for nothing. Clearly the BBC, in my opinion the best broadcaster in the world, needs funding. It could be by advertising; it could be via direct government funding. In either case, the funders could exert pressure on the way their money is spent. The license fee is less direct and goes some way to helping the BBC to maintain its independence. The fact that some people have used the service without paying isn't right and this attempt to tighten up license fee payment is to be supported. On 02/09/16 11:40, artisticforge . wrote: hello would you expand on exactly what you mean. I do not "get" what you are trying to say. On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 3:37 AM, John Bingham wrote: One presumes not. It's a sad fact that there are a lot of people who want to profit from those of us that pay our dues. Not just in this group. On 02/09/16 09:01, Jonathan H wrote: Doesn't seem to be a particularly complicated question: "Do you have a license fee"? If you do and you have paid for the service you are about to use, then answer "Yes". If you do not have a license, then answer "No". It doesn't seem particularly complicated to me. On 2 September 2016 at 07:40, The Kernel wrote: Beeb is asking if I have a license now, sigh ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: License question
hello would you expand on exactly what you mean. I do not "get" what you are trying to say. On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 3:37 AM, John Bingham wrote: > One presumes not. > > It's a sad fact that there are a lot of people who want to profit from those > of us that pay our dues. Not just in this group. > > > On 02/09/16 09:01, Jonathan H wrote: >> >> Doesn't seem to be a particularly complicated question: >> >> "Do you have a license fee"? >> >> If you do and you have paid for the service you are about to use, then >> answer "Yes". >> >> If you do not have a license, then answer "No". >> >> It doesn't seem particularly complicated to me. >> >> On 2 September 2016 at 07:40, The Kernel >> wrote: >>> >>> Beeb is asking if I have a license now, sigh >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> get_iplayer mailing list >>> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer >> >> >> ___ >> get_iplayer mailing list >> get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org >> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer >> > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer -- terry l. ridder ><> ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: License question
One presumes not. It's a sad fact that there are a lot of people who want to profit from those of us that pay our dues. Not just in this group. On 02/09/16 09:01, Jonathan H wrote: Doesn't seem to be a particularly complicated question: "Do you have a license fee"? If you do and you have paid for the service you are about to use, then answer "Yes". If you do not have a license, then answer "No". It doesn't seem particularly complicated to me. On 2 September 2016 at 07:40, The Kernel wrote: Beeb is asking if I have a license now, sigh ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: License question
Doesn't seem to be a particularly complicated question: "Do you have a license fee"? If you do and you have paid for the service you are about to use, then answer "Yes". If you do not have a license, then answer "No". It doesn't seem particularly complicated to me. On 2 September 2016 at 07:40, The Kernel wrote: > Beeb is asking if I have a license now, sigh > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: License question
Become a student then http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3770020/iPlayer-law-change-descends-farce-loophole-means-students-dodge-licence-fee.html On 02/09/2016, The Kernel wrote: > Beeb is asking if I have a license now, sigh > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
License question
Beeb is asking if I have a license now, sigh ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
