Re: New distro.
On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 02:47:35PM +0200, Peter Corlett wrote: > It's debatable whether a single ffmpeg instance could take advantage of that > many cores since Amdahl's Law will kick in as it tries to co-ordinate > everything. Split it into multiple four- or eight-thread encodes and run them > in parallel on that monster server, or even better, run them in parallel on a > fleet of much-cheaper desktop machines. >From my understanding of how yer typical video codec works (which could of course be wrong!) I would think it's one of the few common tasks that can take advantage of that many CPUs, as the parallelisable proportion is very large. A video file consists of a list of chunks, each of which consists of one complete frame followed by a bunch of diffs from one frame to the next. If you're decoding, hand one chunk to each CPU and process them in parallel, and hand each CPU a new task when it finishes. There's some small overhead in figuring out where each chunk begins, and in wrangling pointers so that you end up with the results in a sequence of decoded frames. Encoding is of course similar. -- David Cantrell | top google result for "internet beard fetish club" I'm in retox ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On Tue, Jul 02, 2019 at 11:38:12AM +0100, RS wrote: > [...] Does ffmpeg require more than 64 logical processors? Obviously not, since it works fine on machines with as few as one. Indeed, ffmpeg defaults to using just one unless you pass the "-threads" option. It's debatable whether a single ffmpeg instance could take advantage of that many cores since Amdahl's Law will kick in as it tries to co-ordinate everything. Split it into multiple four- or eight-thread encodes and run them in parallel on that monster server, or even better, run them in parallel on a fleet of much-cheaper desktop machines. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 01/07/2019 20:19, Peter S Kirk wrote: > On 30 Jun 2019 at 19:50, I wrote: >> On 24/06/2019 18:12, Vangelis forthnet wrote: >>> mainly because third party library libx265 (video encoder) >>> has been configured with NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Access) support, >>> a feature absent under Vista+XP: >>> >>> https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/procthread/numa-support >>> Windows Server 2008, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP: Processor groups are not supported. >> Why do you need libx265? > We don't as BBC not using it "yer" Quite. I was also puzzled by the reference to lack of support for processor groups in XP and Vista. Earlier in the document linked to by Vangelis it says, "On systems with more than 64 logical processors, nodes are assigned to processor groups according to the capacity of the nodes." Does ffmpeg require more than 64 logical processors? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 30 Jun 2019 at 19:50, RS RS wrote: > > mainly because third party library libx265 (video encoder) > > has been configured with NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Access) support, > > a feature absent under Vista+XP: > > > > https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/procthread/numa-support > > > >> Windows Server 2008, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2003 > >> and Windows XP: Processor groups are not supported. > > Hi Vangelis > > Why do you need libx265? > > Best wishes > Richard We don't as BBC not using it "yer" Have a look at thepiratebay, lots of x265 encoded eg 1080p Formula 1 ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 24/06/2019 18:12, Vangelis forthnet wrote: ... Latest installer bundles a 32-bit binary of FFmpeg 4.1.1, compiled by Zeranoe... That executable won't run in either XP or Vista and has to be replaced with a compatible compile... FFmpeg vanilla code has dropped XP support in branch 4.x.x, but remains Vista compatible; the reason 4.1.1 won't launch under Vista is mainly because third party library libx265 (video encoder) has been configured with NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Access) support, a feature absent under Vista+XP: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/procthread/numa-support Windows Server 2008, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP: Processor groups are not supported. Hi Vangelis Why do you need libx265? Best wishes Richard ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On Mon Jun 24 16:19:00 BST 2019, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: with someone on XP being unable to run newer versions of GiP. I haven't myself tried to run the latest Windows installer on either XP or Vista; my guess is it would run to completion, successfully installing the application under those OSes... See Wiki notes: https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/windows#before-you-begin Latest installer bundles a 32-bit binary of FFmpeg 4.1.1, compiled by Zeranoe... That executable won't run in either XP or Vista and has to be replaced with a compatible compile... FFmpeg vanilla code has dropped XP support in branch 4.x.x, but remains Vista compatible; the reason 4.1.1 won't launch under Vista is mainly because third party library libx265 (video encoder) has been configured with NUMA (Non-Uniform Memory Access) support, a feature absent under Vista+XP: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/desktop/procthread/numa-support Windows Server 2008, Windows Vista, Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP: Processor groups are not supported. Finding a recent XP and/or Vista compatible FFmpeg binary is not easy; XP die-hards do offer some builds, one has to know where to look for them; e.g. http://blog.k-tai-douga.com/category/359294-1.html https://sourceforge.net/projects/mplayer-win32/files/FFmpeg/ https://rwijnsma.home.xs4all.nl/files/ffmpeg/ Vista (but not XP) compatible, automated, daily builds: https://jenkins.maeyanie.com/job/ffmpeg/ However, in the context of GiP one doesn't need the most up-to-date code, because, as already told by others, the ffmpeg binary inside GiP doesn't access the web but is normally solely used for (off-line) remuxing purposes; that part of the code is mature enough in the last XP (v3.0) and Vista (v3.0.1) compatible binaries available in the VideoHelp archive: https://www.videohelp.com/software/ffmpeg/old-versions#downloadold Greetings ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
Please see below ... On 24/06/2019 16:04, Vangelis forthnet wrote: On Mon Jun 24 11:25:50 BST 2019, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: I'm surprised it worked for you, because AFAICR I'd understood that the version of Strawberry Perl used was supposed not to support XP. ... The latest GiP installer (v3.20.0) bundles a self-contained (portable) mini-package of Strawberry Perl 5.26.2.1-win32, back from mid-April 2018: https://imgur.com/AZZC0PF http://strawberryperl.com/release-notes/5.26.2.1-32bit.html As you might see, the Release Notes do NOT specify a minimum winOS version as "system requirements"; I was able to launch perl 5.26.2.1 successfully under Vista SP2 x86, but, sadly, am nowhere near an XP box to test; my gut feeling is it should properly launch there, too (I'd expect one to have kept the XP sytem as updated as possible - MSVC++ redistributables installed, etc.). The GiP installer has been compiled in the InnoSetup format, one can decompile it - for testing purposes - without actually running it via the latest version of Inno Setup Unpacker: http://innounp.sourceforge.net/ Simply, I must be wrong, yet I do seem to remember some discussion about this somewhere before, with someone on XP being unable to run newer versions of GiP. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On Mon Jun 24 11:25:50 BST 2019, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: I'm surprised it worked for you, because AFAICR I'd understood that the version of Strawberry Perl used was supposed not to support XP. ... The latest GiP installer (v3.20.0) bundles a self-contained (portable) mini-package of Strawberry Perl 5.26.2.1-win32, back from mid-April 2018: https://imgur.com/AZZC0PF http://strawberryperl.com/release-notes/5.26.2.1-32bit.html As you might see, the Release Notes do NOT specify a minimum winOS version as "system requirements"; I was able to launch perl 5.26.2.1 successfully under Vista SP2 x86, but, sadly, am nowhere near an XP box to test; my gut feeling is it should properly launch there, too (I'd expect one to have kept the XP sytem as updated as possible - MSVC++ redistributables installed, etc.). The GiP installer has been compiled in the InnoSetup format, one can decompile it - for testing purposes - without actually running it via the latest version of Inno Setup Unpacker: http://innounp.sourceforge.net/ Best regards ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
Please see below ... On 23/06/2019 02:29, Peter S Kirk wrote: On 22 Jun 2019 at 22:37, MacFH - C E Macfarlane MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: On 22/06/2019 18:52, Peter S Kirk wrote: XP SP3 32bit GiP 3.14.0 FFMPEG N-76331-gf8d429e When upgrading from 2.x to 3.x, did you run a Windows installer or just copy in new files by hand or by using git or equivalent? Ran GiP windows installer then replaced ffmpeg with XP version fyi I use pvr not cli, if ffmpeg not XP compat file remains as untagged .ts I use only the CLI. I'm surprised it worked for you, because AFAICR I'd understood that the version of Strawberry Perl used was supposed not to support XP. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 22 Jun 2019 at 22:37, MacFH - C E Macfarlane MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > Please see below ... > > On 22/06/2019 18:52, Peter S Kirk wrote: > > XP SP3 32bit > > GiP 3.14.0 > > FFMPEG N-76331-gf8d429e > > When upgrading from 2.x to 3.x, did you run a Windows installer or just > copy in new files by hand or by using git or equivalent? > Ran GiP windows installer then replaced ffmpeg with XP version fyi I use pvr not cli, if ffmpeg not XP compat file remains as untagged .ts ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
Please see below ... On 22/06/2019 18:52, Peter S Kirk wrote: XP SP3 32bit GiP 3.14.0 FFMPEG N-76331-gf8d429e When upgrading from 2.x to 3.x, did you run a Windows installer or just copy in new files by hand or by using git or equivalent? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 21 Jun 2019 at 21:42, MacFH - C E Macfarlane MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > On 21/06/2019 18:51, Peter S Kirk wrote: > > I run GiP under XP 32 with no problem. iirc all that is needed is to > > replace ffmpeg with last XP compat version# > > Which version? My recollection is that GiP support for XP died around > the end of v2.x, whereas we're now on 3.2x. XP SP3 32bit GiP 3.14.0 FFMPEG N-76331-gf8d429e ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 21/06/2019 21:42, MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: On 21/06/2019 18:51, Peter S Kirk wrote: I run GiP under XP 32 with no problem. iirc all that is needed is to replace ffmpeg with last XP compat version# Which version? My recollection is that GiP support for XP died around the end of v2.x, whereas we're now on 3.2x. I would need to check the archive and release notes to be sure, but I have a feeling that the functionality lost by using an older XP compatible version of ffmpeg is the ability to stitch together the separately downloaded video and audio from dvf modes. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 21/06/2019 18:51, Peter S Kirk wrote: I run GiP under XP 32 with no problem. iirc all that is needed is to replace ffmpeg with last XP compat version# Which version? My recollection is that GiP support for XP died around the end of v2.x, whereas we're now on 3.2x. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 20 Jun 2019 at 13:39, MacFH - C E Macfarlane MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > > I think we all have our methods, and I'm not convinced that mine or > anyone else's is better than other possible methods, but in the > confusion of suggestions, there is the possibility of important > information being lost or obscured, which is that both under Linux & > Windows, the LibXML libraries are a potential deadfall. In Windows, > especially under 32-bit, you have to do quite a lot of pissing about to > get LibXML to work with Perl at all - about a year or so ago I posted > here detailed instructions for installing and running GiP on Win XP, > previously assumed to be no longer possible, which covered that ground > and more - and even under Linux, if you try to configure and compile > the libraries manually, you may fail. As many have suggested, in Linux > the easiest way is to install the relevant packages using apt-get or > whatever. > I run GiP under XP 32 with no problem. iirc all that is needed is to replace ffmpeg with last XP compat version ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 12:49:10PM +0100, Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip wrote: > When I used to run get_iplayer under Windows, I used to install the > perl of my choice, then ran > > cpan cpanminus > > to install 'cpanminus', then used that to install the perl modules > that the g_ip documentation said I'd need. > > A quick google suggests that under linux one might use one's distro's > package manager (apt or whatever) to install perl, and cpan, but then > just use cpan to install perl modules (apparently outwith the control > of apt or whatever). > > How is a perl user supposed to know whether to go to cpan/cpanminus > route or expect their distro's package manager to deal with this? Unless you know better, you should use the distribution's package manager. This applies no matter what you're installing, whether it be something written in perl, or in python, or it be a video game, or anything else. -- David Cantrell | A machine for turning tea into grumpiness I caught myself pulling grey hairs out of my beard. I'm definitely not going grey, but I am going vain. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 20/06/2019 12:22, Nick Payne wrote: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jon-hedgerows/get-iplayer Best solution if you don't want to be solving dependency problems. Personally i find it better to use git to fetch the latest version and then solve them. But ... why (someone must know) has gip disappeared from the main distro repositories? ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On Thu, Jun 20, 2019 at 12:49:10PM +0100, Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip wrote: >How is a perl user supposed to know whether to go to cpan/cpanminus route or >expect their distro's package manager to deal with this? The standard approach is to use the system-packaged modules if they're available, and build them oneself from CPAN if not. If you're on a Debian-based system you should have access to dh-make-perl, which is a short-cut for building Debian packages out of CPAN modules. It's not pretty but it usually gets the job done. R ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
In article <9e149f35-ac18-8321-525a-5fb0a4bec...@gmail.com>, Nick Payne wrote: > But I still think the command line is easier: FWIW for some items - gip and ffmpeg being the main examples - I prefer to fetch and make/put them in my 'user' space, not as system installs. Makes it easier for me to have multiple versions available for when behaviour changes between versions. Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
Please see below ... On 20/06/2019 12:49, Jeremy Nicoll - ml gip wrote: On 2019-06-19 09:34, Jim Lesurf wrote: I've just installed the current xfce mint long-term-support distro on my main 'work' machine. Having transferred my own programs, data, etc, I find that gip now doesn't work. This seems to be because at least some of the relevant perl modules aren't installed by default. When I used to run get_iplayer under Windows, I used to install the perl of my choice, then ran cpan cpanminus to install 'cpanminus', then used that to install the perl modules that the g_ip documentation said I'd need. A quick google suggests that under linux one might use one's distro's package manager (apt or whatever) to install perl, and cpan, but then just use cpan to install perl modules (apparently outwith the control of apt or whatever). How is a perl user supposed to know whether to go to cpan/cpanminus route or expect their distro's package manager to deal with this I think we all have our methods, and I'm not convinced that mine or anyone else's is better than other possible methods, but in the confusion of suggestions, there is the possibility of important information being lost or obscured, which is that both under Linux & Windows, the LibXML libraries are a potential deadfall. In Windows, especially under 32-bit, you have to do quite a lot of pissing about to get LibXML to work with Perl at all - about a year or so ago I posted here detailed instructions for installing and running GiP on Win XP, previously assumed to be no longer possible, which covered that ground and more - and even under Linux, if you try to configure and compile the libraries manually, you may fail. As many have suggested, in Linux the easiest way is to install the relevant packages using apt-get or whatever. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 2019-06-19 09:34, Jim Lesurf wrote: I've just installed the current xfce mint long-term-support distro on my main 'work' machine. Having transferred my own programs, data, etc, I find that gip now doesn't work. This seems to be because at least some of the relevant perl modules aren't installed by default. When I used to run get_iplayer under Windows, I used to install the perl of my choice, then ran cpan cpanminus to install 'cpanminus', then used that to install the perl modules that the g_ip documentation said I'd need. A quick google suggests that under linux one might use one's distro's package manager (apt or whatever) to install perl, and cpan, but then just use cpan to install perl modules (apparently outwith the control of apt or whatever). How is a perl user supposed to know whether to go to cpan/cpanminus route or expect their distro's package manager to deal with this? -- Jeremy Nicoll - my opinions are my own ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 20/06/2019 6:19 pm, Jim web wrote: > In article , Nick Payne > wrote: >> Using the PPA and apt will only install the needed dependencies. You're >> far more likely to be "spraying things you don't actually need into your >> install" by trying to do it manually. And apt will give you an exact >> list of the additional packages that need to be installed to satisfy >> dependencies. > As I think I've said, I tend to use synaptic. I've assumed this *does* > handle dependencies, etc. It certainly seems to from its interface reports. > > Is this wrong? If you install get-iplayer via Synaptic and the PPA, you'll get the current version and all the dependencies will be pulled in without you having to figure which are required. Add the PPA in Synaptic (Settings / Repositories / PPAs / Add / jon-hedgerows/get-iplayer), update, then search for and install get-iplayer. But I still think the command line is easier: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jon-hedgerows/get-iplayer sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get install get-iplayer ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
In article , Nick Payne wrote: > Using the PPA and apt will only install the needed dependencies. You're > far more likely to be "spraying things you don't actually need into your > install" by trying to do it manually. And apt will give you an exact > list of the additional packages that need to be installed to satisfy > dependencies. As I think I've said, I tend to use synaptic. I've assumed this *does* handle dependencies, etc. It certainly seems to from its interface reports. Is this wrong? Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 19/06/2019 10:38 pm, Jim web wrote: > In article , Alan C. > Foster wrote: >>> Install the PPA from here >>> >>> >>> https://launchpad.net/~jon-hedgerows/+archive/ubuntu/get-iplayer >>> >>> I've been doing that in Linux Mint for years. It gets updated >>> automatically by the Mint update manager when appropriate. > >> Jim, >> Why don't you follow this, it seems sensible? > Well, simply following the first advice and adding the libxml2-dev package > (the non -dev already being present) didn't work. So I'm trying to > establish which packages I *do* need (or not). Partly so I understand, > partly to avoid spraying things I don't actually need into my install in > the hope they'll work. Using the PPA and apt will only install the needed dependencies. You're far more likely to be "spraying things you don't actually need into your install" by trying to do it manually. And apt will give you an exact list of the additional packages that need to be installed to satisfy dependencies. Nick ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
In article <57c692e511...@audiomisc.co.uk>, Jim web wrote: > Well, simply following the first advice and adding the libxml2-dev > package (the non -dev already being present) didn't work. So I'm trying > to establish which packages I *do* need (or not). Partly so I > understand, partly to avoid spraying things I don't actually need into > my install in the hope they'll work. Having experimented with getting gip working on another machine running the new distro I can say that the only package I need in addition to those installed by default by the distro is the libxml-libxml-perl. This is for me to use gip via 'command line'. (Actually a simple 'ROX' program I wrote that will launch a set of gip fetches given a text file list of their pids, called by command.) Thanks for the advice, etc. :-) Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
In article , Alan C. Foster wrote: > > Install the PPA from here > > > > > > https://launchpad.net/~jon-hedgerows/+archive/ubuntu/get-iplayer > > > > I've been doing that in Linux Mint for years. It gets updated > > automatically by the Mint update manager when appropriate. > Jim, > Why don't you follow this, it seems sensible? Well, simply following the first advice and adding the libxml2-dev package (the non -dev already being present) didn't work. So I'm trying to establish which packages I *do* need (or not). Partly so I understand, partly to avoid spraying things I don't actually need into my install in the hope they'll work. However the list from the github... /unix page seems a good runner, so I'll try that unless someone tells me it'll not work, and why. :-) (That said, I use gip by command line: Does that means I don't need *all* the items the apt install listed? If so, which ones don't I need?) It also means I can look to see if the same packages can be got via synaptic as that's my usual way to install distro packs. I can note this down for when I update my othe machines. (I'm migrating four from the old distro to the new one.) Thanks, Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 12:38:48PM +0100, Jim web wrote: > Following up one of my own emails. I've looked at > > https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/unix > > and that says: > > "For example, to install the packages for get_iplayer in Debian 9+/Ubuntu > 18.04+/Mint 19+: > > apt install libwww-perl liblwp-protocol-https-perl libmojolicious-perl > libxml-libxml-perl libcgi-pm-perl" > > Before I try it, and to avoid needless addition of items I might not > actually need yet get gip working again: Is the above apt install correct > and should solve the problem? i.e. That's the list of packages I need? It looks plausible. apt handles dependencies, so when you tell it to install libxml-libxml-perl it will figure out that it needs libxml2-dev etc -- David Cantrell | Reality Engineer, Ministry of Information Anyone willing to give up a little fun for tolerance deserves neither ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 19/06/2019 11:06, michael norman wrote: On 19/06/2019 09:34, Jim Lesurf wrote: I've just installed the current xfce mint long-term-support distro on my main 'work' machine. Having transferred my own programs, data, etc, I find that gip now doesn't work. This seems to be because at least some of the relevant perl modules aren't installed by default. However I can't work out which one(s) I need because the package names listed by synaptic I can't relate to the specific items/locations gip lists as being awol. The problem seems to be with "XML/libXML.pm" - although it may well be more than that. I can't tell as I know zip about perl. Can someone please explain which packages I should install for gip to work as usual? Thanks, Jim Install the PPA from here https://launchpad.net/~jon-hedgerows/+archive/ubuntu/get-iplayer I've been doing that in Linux Mint for years. It gets updated automatically by the Mint update manager when appropriate. M ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer Jim, Why don't you follow this, it seems sensible? Alan ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
Following up one of my own emails. I've looked at https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/unix and that says: "For example, to install the packages for get_iplayer in Debian 9+/Ubuntu 18.04+/Mint 19+: apt install libwww-perl liblwp-protocol-https-perl libmojolicious-perl libxml-libxml-perl libcgi-pm-perl" Before I try it, and to avoid needless addition of items I might not actually need yet get gip working again: Is the above apt install correct and should solve the problem? i.e. That's the list of packages I need? Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
In article <20190619103730.gb28...@bytemark.barnyard.co.uk>, David Cantrell wrote: > libxml2 is a C library that the perl code wants to use. libxml2-dev is > the headers for that C library so that the perl code knows how to link > it. > You'll need both of those in addition to the perl code. OK. However I'm puzzled because so far as I recall I was able to install a working version of gip in the past simply by doing something like a git, etc, of gip, with no need to also fetch/add perl items. Has something changed which means that can't now work? Were the 'missing' perl items present by default in the earlier distros, but are now absent? I have simply copied across my gip from the older install. So I can understand I may have 'left behind' various other things it needs. But in the past I can't recall having to add/install other things for it to work. Is it no longer possible to simply git a version of gip and have that work without quite seperately finding the perl items? Or is my memory simply faulty? (No surprise if so! :-/ ) Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:52:58AM +0100, Jim web wrote: > In article , MacFH - C > E > Macfarlane wrote: > > AFAICR, LibXML is a dependency of XML::Simple, and, as you suggest, on > > Ubuntu systems you install a module using apt-get. I setup and > > configure Ubuntu using a bash script, and its module list contains > > libxml2 and libxml2-dev, so most probably they're the ones you need. > > limxml2 was installed. > > I installed libxml2-dev as well, but, alas, it still doesn't work. :-/ libxml2 is a C library that the perl code wants to use. libxml2-dev is the headers for that C library so that the perl code knows how to link it. You'll need both of those in addition to the perl code. -- David Cantrell | Godless Liberal Elitist EINE KIRCHE! EIN KREDO! EIN PAPST! ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On 19/06/2019 09:34, Jim Lesurf wrote: I've just installed the current xfce mint long-term-support distro on my main 'work' machine. Having transferred my own programs, data, etc, I find that gip now doesn't work. This seems to be because at least some of the relevant perl modules aren't installed by default. However I can't work out which one(s) I need because the package names listed by synaptic I can't relate to the specific items/locations gip lists as being awol. The problem seems to be with "XML/libXML.pm" - although it may well be more than that. I can't tell as I know zip about perl. Can someone please explain which packages I should install for gip to work as usual? Thanks, Jim Install the PPA from here https://launchpad.net/~jon-hedgerows/+archive/ubuntu/get-iplayer I've been doing that in Linux Mint for years. It gets updated automatically by the Mint update manager when appropriate. M ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
On Wed, Jun 19, 2019 at 10:52:58AM +0100, Jim web wrote: >I installed libxml2-dev as well, but, alas, it still doesn't work. :-/ In my Debian system, LibXML.pm (note the capitalisation) is provided by libxml-libxml-perl. This is a dependency of libxml-simple-perl so should have been installed automatically. How did you install XML::Simple? Roger ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
It's a while since I installed get_iPlayer on Mint 18, but I found this useful : https://github.com/get-iplayer/get_iplayer/wiki/unix#perl-packaged Geoff Smith On 19/06/2019, Jim Lesurf wrote: > I've just installed the current xfce mint long-term-support distro on my > main 'work' machine. Having transferred my own programs, data, etc, I find > that gip now doesn't work. This seems to be because at least some of the > relevant perl modules aren't installed by default. However I can't work out > which one(s) I need because the package names listed by synaptic I can't > relate to the specific items/locations gip lists as being awol. > > The problem seems to be with "XML/libXML.pm" - although it may well be > more than that. I can't tell as I know zip about perl. > > Can someone please explain which packages I should install for gip to work > as usual? > > Thanks, > > Jim > > -- > Electronics > https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm > Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html > biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html > Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html > > > ___ > get_iplayer mailing list > get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org > http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer > ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
In article , MacFH - C E Macfarlane wrote: > AFAICR, LibXML is a dependency of XML::Simple, and, as you suggest, on > Ubuntu systems you install a module using apt-get. I setup and > configure Ubuntu using a bash script, and its module list contains > libxml2 and libxml2-dev, so most probably they're the ones you need. limxml2 was installed. I installed libxml2-dev as well, but, alas, it still doesn't work. :-/ Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
Re: New distro.
Hi Jim ... On 19/06/2019 09:34, Jim Lesurf wrote: I've just installed the current xfce mint long-term-support distro on my main 'work' machine. Having transferred my own programs, data, etc, I find that gip now doesn't work. This seems to be because at least some of the relevant perl modules aren't installed by default. However I can't work out which one(s) I need because the package names listed by synaptic I can't relate to the specific items/locations gip lists as being awol. The problem seems to be with "XML/libXML.pm" - although it may well be more than that. I can't tell as I know zip about perl. Can someone please explain which packages I should install for gip to work as usual? I need various modules for Perl to run GiP, GetFlashVideos (doesn't work any more, use YouTube-Dl instead), and the W3c web page checking script. The complete list I have been using is as follows, but it's been a long time since I used it last, so I don't know how up-to-date it is, and I've forgotten which modules relate to which requirement: Authen::SASL Compress::Zlib Crypt::Rijndael LWP Module::Find MP3::Info MP3::Tag Net::SMTP::SSL Net::SMTP::TLS Net::SMTP::TLS::ButMaintained Term::ProgressBar WWW::Mechanize XML::Simple Data::AMF AFAICR, LibXML is a dependency of XML::Simple, and, as you suggest, on Ubuntu systems you install a module using apt-get. I setup and configure Ubuntu using a bash script, and its module list contains libxml2 and libxml2-dev, so most probably they're the ones you need. HTHs Charles. ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
New distro.
I've just installed the current xfce mint long-term-support distro on my main 'work' machine. Having transferred my own programs, data, etc, I find that gip now doesn't work. This seems to be because at least some of the relevant perl modules aren't installed by default. However I can't work out which one(s) I need because the package names listed by synaptic I can't relate to the specific items/locations gip lists as being awol. The problem seems to be with "XML/libXML.pm" - although it may well be more than that. I can't tell as I know zip about perl. Can someone please explain which packages I should install for gip to work as usual? Thanks, Jim -- Electronics https://www.st-andrews.ac.uk/~www_pa/Scots_Guide/intro/electron.htm Armstrong Audio http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/Armstrong/armstrong.html biog http://jcgl.orpheusweb.co.uk/history/ups_and_downs.html Audio Misc http://www.audiomisc.co.uk/index.html ___ get_iplayer mailing list get_iplayer@lists.infradead.org http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/get_iplayer
