Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl moved into its own CVS module

2003-02-28 Thread pcg
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 06:07:22PM +0100, Sven Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,
 
 pcg( Marc)goof(A.).(Lehmann )com writes:
 
   (2) There are a couple of severe problems with the build that have
  
  I didn't know this (but I don't use the bugtracker, since despite a lot of
  tries I never got an account there, so it's rather useless for me).
 
 it seems we suffer from the same problem: I've told you about these
 problems several times and it seems you forgot about it.

It seems this is wrong and only you forgot about it. I went through all
bug reports you ever told me about and fixed, or at leats tried to fix
them in good faith. I remember having given you feedback on them, too, but
maybe in the last year or so some mails slipped through, I don't know.

 forget that there was a problem calling Script-Fu from anything but
 Script-Fu.

Well, you keep forgetting it, don't you? In any case, arguing about open
bug reports (that are long fixed) isn't going to get us anyhwere.

 Perhaps us two just have too many things to care about...

Perhaps. But I don't go out in the public and keep claiming wrong things
when I _know_ that I _do not_ know.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20052

This bug report is rather outdated and supposedly fixed since MANY years.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35694

Same issue here.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79751

Oops, this is certainly not something you told me about ever.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81791

This also is rather valid - I missed the change from overwriting prefix to
destdir.

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104726

Well, this is another case of broken compilation environment (gcc doesn't
support the native asm syntax and compiler switches).

In any case, the two bugs are really easy to fix - I don't think you ever told me 
about those.

Yes, it's not at all your duty to tell me about these - I am not at all
arguing about that, or wanting you to invest even more time and work.

My problem is that you are investing too much time with misinformation -
something that is relatively easy to avoid, especially since I do tell you
about this regularly (oh sorry, for you it's ranting - no wonder you keep
ignoring it).

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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl moved into its own CVS module

2003-02-28 Thread Raphaël Quinet
On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:19:01 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.) (Lehmann ) wrote:
  (2) There are a couple of severe problems with the build that have
 
 I didn't know this (but I don't use the bugtracker, since despite a lot of
 tries I never got an account there, so it's rather useless for me).

Strange.  I had no problem creating an account some time ago:
  http://bugzilla.gnome.org/createaccount.cgi
Submitting your e-mail address using this form is the only thing you
need to be able to add comments to any bug report.  If you also want to
be able to confirm bug reports, to close them or to re-assign them,
then you should send a request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] after you account
has been created.  It may take a couple of days before this request is
honored, but in the meantime you can already use your account to add
your comments in any bug report.

-Raphaël
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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl moved into its own CVS module

2003-02-28 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

pcg( Marc)@goof(A.).(Lehmann )com writes:

 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=20052
 
 This bug report is rather outdated and supposedly fixed since MANY years.

Now closed at your request.

 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=35694
 
 Same issue here.

Same here.

 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79751
 
 Oops, this is certainly not something you told me about ever.

I certainly did; I even added your email to the Cc: which should have
caused bugzilla to send you an email about it.

 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=81791
 
 This also is rather valid - I missed the change from overwriting
 prefix to destdir.

If you ever come around to fix this, will you please notice us about
your change so we can avoid to have the bug-report open for some more
years.

 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=104726
 
 Well, this is another case of broken compilation environment (gcc doesn't
 support the native asm syntax and compiler switches).

Now closed as invalid.

 Yes, it's not at all your duty to tell me about these - I am not at all
 arguing about that, or wanting you to invest even more time and work.

I'm sure you know how to query Bugzilla for the gimp-perl component of
the gimp module.


Salut, Sven

PS: Thanks to the three bugs closed due to our little flame-war we are
now down to rank 7 in the Bugzilla Hall of Shame
(http://bugzilla.gnome.org/weekly-bug-summary.html). Thanks!  :-)
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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl moved into its own CVS module

2003-02-28 Thread Branko Collin
On 28 Feb 2003, at 18:35, Raphaël Quinet wrote:

 On Fri, 28 Feb 2003 16:19:01 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( Marc) (A.)
 (Lehmann ) wrote:   (2) There are a couple of severe problems with
 the build that have   I didn't know this (but I don't use the
 bugtracker, since despite a lot of  tries I never got an account
 there, so it's rather useless for me).

 Strange.  I had no problem creating an account some time ago:
   http://bugzilla.gnome.org/createaccount.cgi
 Submitting your e-mail address using this form is the only thing you
 need to be able to add comments to any bug report.  If you also want
 to be able to confirm bug reports, to close them or to re-assign them,
 then you should send a request to [EMAIL PROTECTED] after you
 account has been created.  It may take a couple of days before this
 request is honored, but in the meantime you can already use your
 account to add your comments in any bug report.

I vaguely remember that Bugzilla needed JavaScript or Cookies or some
other extra technology to be enabled before you could use it. It's
not set-up very well.

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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl moved into its own CVS module

2003-02-28 Thread David Necas (Yeti)
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 08:30:09PM +0100, Branko Collin wrote:
 
 I vaguely remember that Bugzilla needed JavaScript or Cookies or some
 other extra technology to be enabled before you could use it. It's
 not set-up very well.

Just another FUD example.

You don't need JS (though it may improve user experience in
a few places).

You need cookies to log in, so you generally need cookies to
change anything (what brower do you use? bugzilla works even
in lynx).

You don't need anything to search for bugs, wget is enough
if you know what you are searching for.

Yeti

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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl moved into its own CVS module

2003-02-28 Thread David Necas (Yeti)
On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 10:07:30PM +0100,  Marc A. Lehmann  wrote:
 On Fri, Feb 28, 2003 at 09:19:17PM +0100, David Necas (Yeti) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
  You need cookies to log in, so you generally need cookies to
  change anything (what brower do you use? bugzilla works even
  in lynx).
 
 Well, certainly lynx doesn't send cookies if you tell it not to. I don't
 know a browser that always sends cookies, anyways.
 
 (Yes, you know that, but assuming that everybody happily lets himself
 monitor using cookies is not reflecting reality ;)

It's OT, but you started about reality:

Default lynx behaviour is to ask about each cookie. You can
decide to accept exactly the log-in one (it sends a few
more). You can make sure it's deleted after session. You can
then set your cookie preferencies in the config.

The reality is, you have to prove yourself to make any
changes, and this is a very logical requirement. The
stronger authentization, the better you are monitored. You
can't be monitored less.

If you are so paranoiac you don't accept cookies from
bugzilla.gnome.org, then I can't understand why you bother
to read any mail not signed by some trusted GnuPG key
(namely gimp-dev), not speaking about responding to them. We
are probably all evil hackers monitoring your mailing
behaviour.

Yeti

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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl moved into its own CVS module

2003-02-28 Thread pcg
 It's OT, but you started about reality:

I didn't start anything. A very important rule to follow on the 'net or
anywhere else: do _NOT_ forward private mails to public forums.

;)

 bugzilla.gnome.org, then I can't understand why you bother
 to read any mail not signed by some trusted GnuPG key
 (namely gimp-dev)
   
Did I say anything about that issue? Maybe I really do bother... I
regularly have problems explaining to people why a gpg key that is not
signed or verified by anybody (self-signature not counted) is still very
useful and still has all the same identification qualities as a trusted
(or better: verified by showing your ID card) gpg key.

(A trusted key, btw, is something that actually _weakens_ your
security. If you are paranoic you should never trust _any_ key. And as
a general rule of thumb: if you trust anybody or anything, you are not
really paranoic ;)

 not speaking about responding to them. We are probably all evil hackers
 monitoring your mailing behaviour.

Well, that's probably not true, but wether I am paranoic or not, I _do_
respect it when people send me private (off-topic) mails and don't forward
them...

F'up in private again, please ;)

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Re: [Gimp-developer] gimp-perl moved into its own CVS module

2003-02-28 Thread Christian Rose
fre 2003-02-28 klockan 18.28 skrev [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=79751
 
 Oops, this is certainly not something you told me about ever.

The bug activity log for this report (available as a link from the
page) very clearly shows that [EMAIL PROTECTED] added a cc: to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
for this bug report almost a year ago, 2002-04-24...


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[Gimp-developer] gimp-perl moved into its own CVS module

2003-02-26 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

when I saw your mail, I remembered that I haven't yet told you that we
finally moved gimp-perl out of the gimp HEAD branch into its own CVS
module called gimp-perl. Hoepfully someone will find the time to
resurrect its functionality and make it work with GTK+-2.x and
GIMP-1.3.


Salut, Sven
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