Re: [Gimp-user] Webpage Help
Oh no, you missed the issue. It was not about a whitespace, it was about creating a NEWLINE. There was a whole blank line BELOW the image. Unless... a whitespace could somehow create that newline... maybe it wrapped around? On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 02:05:30AM +0200, Marc A. Lehmann wrote: On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 03:27:12PM -0400, Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try putting it all on one (admittedly ugly) line with no extra spaces: a ...img /a That's really weird... but it seems to work. Actually, to reassure you all, that is totally correct, documented, standardized and expected behaviour. New lines _are_ whitespace. e.g. bHello,/b I am here. will have space before the I. No matter how many spaces/newlines/tabs etc. you use, unless you are within pre or similar elements, it's a single whitespace that seperates characters. -- Daniel Carrera, Math PhD student at UMD. PGP KeyID: 9AF77A88 .-~~~-. On the menu of a Swiss restaurant: / O O \ Our wines leave you nothing to hope for :s: \ \___/ / Sign outside a Hong Kong tailor shop: `-.___.-' Ladies may have a fit upstairs ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Webpage Help
On Tue, Aug 19, 2003 at 09:33:31PM -0400, Daniel Carrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh no, you missed the issue. It was not about a whitespace, it was about creating a NEWLINE. There was a whole blank line BELOW the image. Unless... a whitespace could somehow create that newline... maybe it wrapped around? Yupp. whitespace can be a new line, a space, or something else to seperate, as the browser sees fit. -- -==- | ==-- _ | ---==---(_)__ __ __ Marc Lehmann +-- --==---/ / _ \/ // /\ \/ / [EMAIL PROTECTED] |e| -=/_/_//_/\_,_/ /_/\_\ XX11-RIPE --+ The choice of a GNU generation | | ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Gimp on Mac?
Hi all, I have a Mac-using friend who is having difficulties with Photoshop which I think Gimp might solve. He is pretty new to web-design and is struggling with image maps, and I know that GIMP has a very cool image-map feature. I was hoping I could get him hooked up with Gimp. :) Now, this is a very non-technical guy. I am an experienced Unix/Linux user, I have hardly ever touched a Mac. Also, I don't have much time to help him in-person because we live some distance appart. Most of what I can offer him is email help. Now my questions: * How hard is it to install Gimp on Mac? * Is there a free (as in beer) version? If my choices are to compile from source, or pay for the version at macgimp.org, I'll pay. But is there another option? I want an honest opinion on MacGimp. Is it usable? By that I mean stable/easy-to-install/behaves-nicely/etc. I just don't want to give him something that's just going to make his life more difficult. Thank you for your help. -- Daniel Carrera, Math PhD student at UMD. PGP KeyID: 9AF77A88 .-~~~-. On the menu of a Swiss restaurant: / O O \ Our wines leave you nothing to hope for :s: \ \___/ / Sign outside a Hong Kong tailor shop: `-.___.-' Ladies may have a fit upstairs ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Cropping question
Maybe I've missed your question entirely, but if I haven't, you might consider resizeing the canvas (don't rescale the image, resize the canvas). Use the move tool to move the layer so the stuff off the canvas is the stuff you'd rather lose. Save in your favourite image format and presto. On Wed, Aug 20, 2003 at 12:22:23PM -0700, David McWilliams wrote: I don't know of a easy way of doing this, so I guess that's why I am asking. I used a digital camera that can give me output @ 1600x1200, an aspect ratio of 1.33:1. As we all pretty much know, standard photo prints most commonly come in 6x4, 1.33:1, or 7x5, 1.67:1, 10x8, 1.25:1. Is there a way of accurately cropping a print to a desired aspect ratio. For example, I have a 1600x1200 shot that has some stuff that I could loose, but still be left with a image good for an OK 7x5. If I just resize it to an appropriate aspect ratio, I still get the junk. What I'm looking for is some kind of 'selection box', or a selectable aspect ratio, standard or not, that is also resizable that will enable me to select a portion of an image and get rid of the rest. Is there an easy way? Hope this makes sense to someone. Thanks in advance, David = Checkout the McWilliams family website @ http://davidmcw.tripod.com/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user -- Daniel Carrera, Math PhD student at UMD. PGP KeyID: 9AF77A88 .-~~~-. On the menu of a Swiss restaurant: / O O \ Our wines leave you nothing to hope for :s: \ \___/ / Sign outside a Hong Kong tailor shop: `-.___.-' Ladies may have a fit upstairs ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Re: Cropping question
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (2003-08-20 at 1222.23 -0700): Is there an easy way? For the moment, no, there is not a easy way, you get aspect ratio (via rectangle select) or resizable (via crop tool), but not both. Check bugzilla or mailing list archives, it has been covered at least a couple of times. GSR ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Cropping question
Hi there! I do not know if this list has got a FAQ or not...but it seens like this one is going to be #1 when such a FAQ is updated. I can imagine: 1) How to make a fixed aspect ratio crop? 2) What is the GIMP? ... ___ Regardless, let's put hands on it: Double click on the rectangular selection tool icon. Click on the fixed size/ratio widgstuffie and choose your ratio. Start a selection,and while holding the left button down, hold SHIFT on the keyboard. To move the selection around after it's done, holt ALT + click and drag. To crop image to the selection, choose the crop tool, click on the image, and click on the from selection button. Regards, JS -- David McWilliams wrote: I don't know of a easy way of doing this, so I guess that's why I am asking. I used a digital camera that can give me output @ 1600x1200, an aspect ratio of 1.33:1. As we all pretty much know, standard photo prints most commonly come in 6x4, 1.33:1, or 7x5, 1.67:1, 10x8, 1.25:1. Is there a way of accurately cropping a print to a desired aspect ratio. For example, I have a 1600x1200 shot that has some stuff that I could loose, but still be left with a image good for an OK 7x5. If I just resize it to an appropriate aspect ratio, I still get the junk. What I'm looking for is some kind of 'selection box', or a selectable aspect ratio, standard or not, that is also resizable that will enable me to select a portion of an image and get rid of the rest. Is there an easy way? Hope this makes sense to someone. Thanks in advance, David = Checkout the McWilliams family website @ http://davidmcw.tripod.com/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Cropping question - Thanks to all
Seems to be two main methods, so here's a summary; Double click on the rectangular selection tool icon. Click on the fixed size/ratio widgstuffie and choose your ratio. Start a selection,and while holding the left button down, hold SHIFT on the keyboard. To move the selection around after it's done, holt ALT + click and drag. To crop image to the selection, choose the crop tool, click on the image, and click on the from selection button. or resize the canvas, without resizing the image, and move it around so you only see what you want. Thanks to all who wrote, very quick service, Cheers, David = Checkout the McWilliams family website @ http://davidmcw.tripod.com/ __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Cropping question
Hi, On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 21:22, David McWilliams wrote: What I'm looking for is some kind of 'selection box', or a selectable aspect ratio, standard or not, that is also resizable that will enable me to select a portion of an image and get rid of the rest. The rect-select allows to set a fixed aspect ratio. You can use it to select the part of the image you want to keep, then crop to that area. In GIMP-1.3 there's a menu shortcut for cropping to selection, while in version 1.2 you need to use the From Selection button offered by the Crop tool. Yes, we should add an aspect ratio setting to the Crop tool to ease this rather common task... Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Cropping question
Hi, On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 21:29, Daniel Carrera wrote: Maybe I've missed your question entirely, but if I haven't, you might consider resizeing the canvas (don't rescale the image, resize the canvas). Use the move tool to move the layer so the stuff off the canvas is the stuff you'd rather lose. Save in your favourite image format and presto. I don't recommened that. At least you would have to resize the layer to image-size before you save or you might end up with an image of the original size. Most file plug-in don't care about the image dimension and will save an image with the full layer size. Sven ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Webpage Help
Daniel Carrera - Wednesday 20 August 2003 03:33 - about Re: [Gimp-user] Webpage Help: Hi Daniel, Oh no, you missed the issue. It was not about a whitespace, it was about creating a NEWLINE. There was a whole blank line BELOW the image. Unless... a whitespace could somehow create that newline... maybe it wrapped around? I've created two html pages, one for Mozilla and one for Konqueror and Netscape, with examples of a href... and images in tables. Some work like you'd want them to, some leave gaps. You might have a look http://www.latinae.demon.nl/img_tables_moz.html http://www.latinae.demon.nl/img_tables_konq.html I can't test this in IE, but you should be able to adapt the pages. Hope that helps, [rest snipped] Natalie -- aabdeehilptz aeginrstu ;) Linux Counter: user 230952 ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Webpage Help
Hello, Natalie; I brought up the two web sites you mentioned using IE 6 and that browser reacts differntly than mozilla or ... whatever.(Why am I not surprised?!? :-) As an example, the very first example in your _moz example has a blazing white line separating the first row and the second using IE, as opposed to Mozilla where all four cells of the table abut nicely. This was the sample with the td img /td? However in the second (where tdimg .../td are all on one line, IE renders the table with NO white line between the rows. Oh, well.. Regards, Bill Lee Nat wrote: Daniel Carrera - Wednesday 20 August 2003 03:33 - about Re: [Gimp-user] Webpage Help: Hi Daniel, Oh no, you missed the issue. It was not about a whitespace, it was about creating a NEWLINE. There was a whole blank line BELOW the image. Unless... a whitespace could somehow create that newline... maybe it wrapped around? I've created two html pages, one for Mozilla and one for Konqueror and Netscape, with examples of a href... and images in tables. Some work like you'd want them to, some leave gaps. You might have a look http://www.latinae.demon.nl/img_tables_moz.html http://www.latinae.demon.nl/img_tables_konq.html I can't test this in IE, but you should be able to adapt the pages. Hope that helps, [rest snipped] Natalie ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
