[Gimp-user] Re: gimp-remote -n not starting new instance

2004-01-12 Thread Sven Burmeister
Carol Spears schrieb:
hi,
On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 10:48:15PM +0100, Sven Burmeister wrote:

one thing about kde that always annoys me is that no one working on gimp
uses kde or cares to.  another thing about kde that annoys me is that no
one from kde comes to help, they only come to rewrite it.
perhaps konqueor issues should be handled by the Konqueor.  history is
written by the winners afterall, so any application naming themselves
something as silly as Konqueror had better maintain their own FAQ! and
history and such.  i have a feeling that the gimp-developers would not
be able to write a favorable FAQ! about kde issues without lying.
Hello!

So gnome and others handle this the right way? If this is so I would 
file a bug for kde, otherwise it does not seem to be a kde-only problem.

Why would it be so wrong to add one tiny little checkbox to the 
preferences to just allow one instance which would help all people that 
come from windows and in this case also use kde? I mean other programs 
do handle this well, such as opera and only open once no matter how fast 
you try to open them multiple times.

you might help the Konquerorers by pointing them at the gimp-remote
manpages.  does kde have those?
So I cannot configure my kde the way to handle this?

Cheers,

Sven

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[Gimp-user] gimp2.0pre python

2004-01-12 Thread Przemyslaw Gawronski
Hi, I've downloaded gimp2.0.pre, compiled (with --enable-python), but
the scripcts included don't work. Is this known, or there is something
wrong with my installation ?

Thanks for some information.

Przemek

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2.0pre python

2004-01-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Przemyslaw Gawronski [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hi, I've downloaded gimp2.0.pre, compiled (with --enable-python),
 but the scripcts included don't work. Is this known, or there is
 something wrong with my installation ?

It would certainly help if you could describe more precisely how the
scripts don't work.


Sven

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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2.0pre python

2004-01-12 Thread Przemyslaw Gawronski
Dnia Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 10:27:45AM +0100, Sven Neumann napisa:

 It would certainly help if you could describe more precisely how the
 scripts don't work.

Yes, sorry, about leaving that out.

Here it is:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] gawron]$ gimp-1.3 
[1] 4311
[EMAIL PROTECTED] gawron]$ This is a development version of The GIMP.
Debug messages may appear here.

gimp_composite: use=yes, verbose=no +mmx +sse +sse2 -3dnow -altivec -vis
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /home/gawron/lib/gimp/1.3/python/gimpfu.py, line 427, in _run
extra_params = _interact(func_name)
  File /home/gawron/lib/gimp/1.3/python/gimpfu.py, line 239, in _interact
import gimpui
  File /home/gawron/lib/gimp/1.3/python/gimpui.py, line 15, in ?
pygtk.require('2.0')
  File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/pygtk.py, line 45, in require
assert not sys.modules.has_key('gtk'), \
AssertionError: pygtk.require() must be called before importing gtk

I've tryied to run from the main menu:

Extras-Python-Fu-Misc-Sphere

All other python scripts endup the same way.


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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2.0pre python

2004-01-12 Thread Manish Singh
On Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 11:09:55AM +0100, Przemyslaw Gawronski wrote:
 Dnia Mon, Jan 12, 2004 at 10:27:45AM +0100, Sven Neumann napisa?:
 
  It would certainly help if you could describe more precisely how the
  scripts don't work.
 
 Yes, sorry, about leaving that out.
 
 Here it is:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] gawron]$ gimp-1.3 
 [1] 4311
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] gawron]$ This is a development version of The GIMP.
 Debug messages may appear here.
 
 gimp_composite: use=yes, verbose=no +mmx +sse +sse2 -3dnow -altivec -vis
 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /home/gawron/lib/gimp/1.3/python/gimpfu.py, line 427, in _run
 extra_params = _interact(func_name)
   File /home/gawron/lib/gimp/1.3/python/gimpfu.py, line 239, in _interact
 import gimpui
   File /home/gawron/lib/gimp/1.3/python/gimpui.py, line 15, in ?
 pygtk.require('2.0')
   File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/pygtk.py, line 45, in require
 assert not sys.modules.has_key('gtk'), \
 AssertionError: pygtk.require() must be called before importing gtk
 
 I've tryied to run from the main menu:
 
 Extras-Python-Fu-Misc-Sphere
 
 All other python scripts endup the same way.

Your version of pygtk is too old, you should use at least 1.99.15, or even
better 2.0.0.

I've updated the configure script to enforce this.

-Yosh
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[Gimp-user] Interesting Error Message

2004-01-12 Thread Brent Garber
Got this one the other day:

http://www.remnetworks.org/~ovrlrdq/error.jpg

Dunno if it's a gimp error message or a GTK error . . but the 
description of the error was a bit amusing. And yes my screen looked 
exactly like that.
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2.0pre python

2004-01-12 Thread Przemyslaw Gawronski
 Your version of pygtk is too old, you should use at least 1.99.15, or even
 better 2.0.0.

 I've updated the configure script to enforce this.

I did as sugested, works like a charme, thankx.

Przemek

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: gimp-remote -n not starting new instance

2004-01-12 Thread Sven Burmeister
Sven Neumann schrieb:
Hi,

There's nothing wrong with that expect that a tiny little checkbox is
not sufficient. This will require major changes and it is not trivial
to implement in a portable fashion. There seems to be consensus among
the GIMP developers that the gimp-remote functionality should be
integrated into the main executable but no decision was made on how
this should be implemented. Perhaps we can do this change for
GIMP-2.2.
Hi!

Glad to hear that, even if that means that since nobody could tell me 
how to workaround this issue, it will persist for me till 2.2 so 
probably for a year till 2.2 is out.

Thanks a lot to everybody!

Sven

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Re: [Gimp-user] Re: gimp-remote -n not starting new instance

2004-01-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Sven Burmeister [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Glad to hear that, even if that means that since nobody could tell me
 how to workaround this issue, it will persist for me till 2.2 so
 probably for a year till 2.2 is out.

Even if the functionality was built into the gimp executable, there
would still be a race condition if Konqueror continues to behave this
way. So if our guess is correct and Konqueror really calls gimp for
each of a group of selected images instead of doing a single call with
a list of images, then this will have to be fixed in Konqueror. Any
attempt to fix this in another application cannot possibly work
reliably. Let alone the fact that it would be horribly inefficient.
Actually I cannot believe that this is the case. Given the time it
takes to startup a C++ application (and almost all KDE apps are such),
it would be insane to do it this way.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre

2004-01-12 Thread Dave Neary
Hi,

Thomas Spuhler wrote:

It compiled here using the configure, make, make install after
installing some libraries.
Would be nice if I could make rpm's, but I guess the package is not set
up that way.
There is a gimp.spec file in CVS, and in the tarball, and there are GIMP 
RPMs pre-built by drc.

It looks really nice and has very nice new features. However, I cannot
find CMYK mode. I read a review and it was told that this has now been
implemented. 
That would be inaccurate... you can save as CMYK TIFF, but the 
transforms are really quite simple. There is no native CMYK editting mode.

This is a requirement in order to open files that have been produced on
Photoshop full Edition by our ad agency.
Am I missing something?
Afraid not.

Cheers,
Dave.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre

2004-01-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Thomas Spuhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 It compiled here using the configure, make, make install after
 installing some libraries.  Would be nice if I could make rpm's, but
 I guess the package is not set up that way.

The tarball comes with a working spec file. RPM packages for 2.0pre1
appeared within one day after the source was released.

 It looks really nice and has very nice new features. However, I
 cannot find CMYK mode. I read a review and it was told that this has
 now been implemented.

Well, quite a few people talked a lot of stupid things about CMYK
support in 2.0. The fact is that there are some small improvements
over GIMP-1.2 in this area but not what I would call full CMYK
support. Probably the most interesting thing in this area is the
soft-proof display filter that allows to get an estimate of how the
printed image would look. This is implemented using ICC color
profiles.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre

2004-01-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Dave Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 That would be inaccurate... you can save as CMYK TIFF, but the
 transforms are really quite simple.

I am sorry Dave, but this is wrong. The TIFF plug-in included with
GIMP-2.0 cannot create CMYK files. It can however read CMYK and have
libtiff promote it to RGB.

There is a 3rd-party plug-in that does CMYK separations based on ICC
profiles by means of lcms. I've ported it to the 2.0 API lately. Not
sure if the plug-in author integrated my patch yet.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre

2004-01-12 Thread Thomas Spuhler
Well, I think I am going the hard way and compile. The prebuilt rpm's
don't install because of incorrect dependencies.
Trying to build rpms, is getting me further now but I'll get:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gimp2]# rpmbuild -tb gimp-2.0pre1.tar.bz2
error: Failed build dependencies:
gimp-print-devel = 4.2.0 is needed by gimp-2.0pre1-1
gtkhtml2-devel = 2.0.0 is needed by gimp-2.0pre1-1

MDK does not provide gtkhtml2-devel, but does 
libgtkhtml2_0-2.4.0-1mdk
libgtkhtml2_0-devel-2.4.0-1mdk
and 
libgtkhtml-3.0_2-3.0.8-1mdk
libgtkhtml-3.0_2-devel-3.0.8-1mdk

also
gimp-print-develop is not provided.
I have libgimpprint1-develop-4.2.5-30mdk installed


equivalent packages from Redhat do collide with the libraries from
MDK.


Tomn


On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 09:19, Dave Neary wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Thomas Spuhler wrote:
 
  It compiled here using the configure, make, make install after
  installing some libraries.
  Would be nice if I could make rpm's, but I guess the package is not set
  up that way.
 
 There is a gimp.spec file in CVS, and in the tarball, and there are GIMP 
 RPMs pre-built by drc.
 
  It looks really nice and has very nice new features. However, I cannot
  find CMYK mode. I read a review and it was told that this has now been
  implemented. 
 
 That would be inaccurate... you can save as CMYK TIFF, but the 
 transforms are really quite simple. There is no native CMYK editting mode.
 
  This is a requirement in order to open files that have been produced on
  Photoshop full Edition by our ad agency.
  Am I missing something?
 
 Afraid not.
 
 Cheers,
 Dave.



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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre

2004-01-12 Thread Ville Pätsi
On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 21:32, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
 equivalent packages from Redhat do collide with the libraries from
 MDK.

This is a given. Mandrake intentionally changed package names when it
branched off from Red Hat. If you want to make rpms for Mandrake
you're going to have to create a different specfile.
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre

2004-01-12 Thread Thomas Spuhler
On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 12:40, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Thomas Spuhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  MDK does not provide gtkhtml2-devel, but does 
  libgtkhtml2_0-2.4.0-1mdk
  libgtkhtml2_0-devel-2.4.0-1mdk
  and 
  libgtkhtml-3.0_2-3.0.8-1mdk
  libgtkhtml-3.0_2-devel-3.0.8-1mdk
 
 These are two different libraries with incompatible APIs. Actually
 gtkhtml2 is a rewrite while gtkhtml3 is a newer version gtkhtml1.
 You will need gtkhtml2 for the GIMP help browser plug-in.
Wouldn't the 
libgtkhtml2_0-2.4.0-1mdk
libgtkhtml2_0-devel-2.4.0-1mdk
suffice?
Tom

 
  also
  gimp-print-develop is not provided.
  I have libgimpprint1-develop-4.2.5-30mdk installed
 
 This looks just perfect for gimp's print plug-in.
 
 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre

2004-01-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Thomas Spuhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 12:40, Sven Neumann wrote:

  These are two different libraries with incompatible APIs. Actually
  gtkhtml2 is a rewrite while gtkhtml3 is a newer version gtkhtml1.
  You will need gtkhtml2 for the GIMP help browser plug-in.

 Wouldn't the 
 libgtkhtml2_0-2.4.0-1mdk
 libgtkhtml2_0-devel-2.4.0-1mdk
 suffice?

Isn't that what I said? I am sorry I don't know about the package
names of Mandrake or RedHat or whatever distribution. I can only tell
you what software you need. The translation to package names is up to
you.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre

2004-01-12 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Thomas Spuhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 The most important is to be able to open (read) files from Photoshop
 that are saved as CMYK (.psd files)

GIMP-2.0 can open these. However since the CMYK-RGB conversion is
done quite naively I am not sure the result will be useful in a
professional environment. This will certainly be improved in the
future.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre

2004-01-12 Thread Thomas Spuhler
On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 12:52, Sven Neumann wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Thomas Spuhler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On Mon, 2004-01-12 at 12:40, Sven Neumann wrote:
 
   These are two different libraries with incompatible APIs. Actually
   gtkhtml2 is a rewrite while gtkhtml3 is a newer version gtkhtml1.
   You will need gtkhtml2 for the GIMP help browser plug-in.
 
  Wouldn't the 
  libgtkhtml2_0-2.4.0-1mdk
  libgtkhtml2_0-devel-2.4.0-1mdk
  suffice?
 
 Isn't that what I said? I am sorry I don't know about the package
 names of Mandrake or RedHat or whatever distribution. I can only tell
 you what software you need. The translation to package names is up to
 you.
Swen, I did a normal compilation and install and that worked. But I want
to try to build an rpm. Which one is the spec file where I need to
change the package names?
Sorry for using your time, but I feel I need to do this once.
 
 
 Sven
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