Re: [gimp] [Gimp-user] adding fonts to the gimp

2004-09-19 Thread John Bougainville
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To use MAC fonts, the better is to use the Applesystemfonts package 
from fink, this package will extract the TrueType fonts from your 
Apple System and Library directories and make them available to X11. 
You just add your TTF fonts to your mac and you can use them with all 
your X11 app.
Le 19 sept. 04, à 03:06, Maria Yousaf a écrit :

Hi everyone,
   I'm having some difficulty adding fonts to the GIMP.  I'm using 
GIMP version 2.0.4
and the fonts that I want to add were originally MAC fonts.  They were 
converted to
.afm and .pfa.  These fonts show up when I use an application like 
OpenOffice but
they do not appear in my font list in the GIMP.  Is there anything 
special I
need to do to add these fonts to the gimp?

Cheers,
Maria
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker

2004-09-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


 My main worry is that someone out there has introduced a filepicker
 I can't use.  See mail subject. My workflow is seriously hampered by
 it. It shows no folder icons. I can't type filenames in it. The two
 applications I use the most; Mozilla (Gtk2) and Gimp, are now using
 a filepicker I can't use. THAT is a major problem. Probably to more
 than me.

That could have been fixed as easily if only you would have asked
nicely.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] [OT] Some other app (was: gimp in one window)

2004-09-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

Mike Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This only works for sufficiently configurable window managers. Not all
 windows managers are sufficiently configurable. Which is why
 applications should be configurable to disable such hinting.

That is a redundant statement since, as we all know, the hints are
optional. I wonder what point you are trying to make.

At the moment the hints are not even enabled by default but I would
actually like to reconsider the defaults for 2.2. It would be nice to
get some feedback whether people are using the (toolbox-window-hint
utility) and/or (dock-window-hint utility) preferences and how well
they work or not work for them.


Sven
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker

2004-09-19 Thread David Neary
Hi,

This is mostly a binch of tips (and a disclaimer - I haven't read
the rest of the thread yet, so these may be duplicates)...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I tried to build 2.1.4 and kind of succeeded, but it couldn't open files. I
 could barely start it, actually. THere was dozens of error messages during
 startup from the local dir about libgimpwidgets-2.0-104 couldn't be located.

You may have tried to install the GIMP 2.1 into the same
directory as the old GIMP, and this does not work. It's
documented in the README file, which you read, of course. ;)

I don't know how those errors manifest themselves, and I would
have expected something more subtle than this, but however...

 And even with a full install that's right: It's not on disk. Nor did the
 installation routine relink gimp to the new binary.

This is normal - since 2.1.x is a development series, we assume
that you will be doing day-to-day work with 2.0.x, and we leave
the gimp linking to gimp-2.0.

 I finally gave up and
 deleted the whole thing - it could only open xfc files, no plugins worked,
 and the filepicker has become an unusable mess... What on earth happened to the
 it? I can't use it anymore :(((

For the files, this is because xcf is loaded and saved in the
core, while every other format goes through a plug-in. Since
libgimp is not found, the plug-ins don't load, and are thus not
available.

You can use the old 2.0 plug-ins by doing something like ln -s
/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins ~/.gimp-2.1/plug-ins , but then you
will not have all the bug-fixes and previews which have gone into
the 2.1 series.

 There is nowhere to paste in the URLs (filepath/name).

Ctrl-F (Find) brings up a filename entry dialog box where you can
paste URLs or file paths.

 I used to browse my
 galleries in mozilla, and then paste the url/filepath+name into the gimp
 filepicker.

If this is your preferred way to browse files, then you might
consider dragging and dropping the URLs from the Location bar
into the toolbox of the GIMP. This even works for remote images
in web-pages, and drag  drop also works with multiple files, you
can drop files to the layers dock to have them added as layers to
your image, and DD also works for lots of other things (colours,
patterns, layer previews, etc).

 I tested it under Gnome too: There I can see icons at least. But I can't use
 Gnome for other reasons. I guess it all means that the Gimp has changed from a
 Gtk app to a Gnome app.

No, this isn't the case. Perhaps you are missing the icon themes,
which are an optional but reccommended component for the GIMP?

Regards,
Dave.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker

2004-09-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 You may have tried to install the GIMP 2.1 into the same
 directory as the old GIMP, and this does not work. It's
 documented in the README file, which you read, of course. ;)

 I don't know how those errors manifest themselves, and I would
 have expected something more subtle than this, but however...

See my other response in this thread. The error that the original
poster was seeing when starting up GIMP is completely unrelated to the
installation prefix he has choosen. He simply forgot to run ldconfig.

 You can use the old 2.0 plug-ins by doing something like ln -s
 /usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins ~/.gimp-2.1/plug-ins , but then you
 will not have all the bug-fixes and previews which have gone into
 the 2.1 series.

This won't work with 2.1.4 though since we accidentally broke the wire
protocol. It will work again with 2.1.5 (or current CVS).
 
 No, this isn't the case. Perhaps you are missing the icon themes,
 which are an optional but reccommended component for the GIMP?

He is missing at least one of the following:

- an icon theme that provides the icons
- the shared-mime-info package
- an entry in ~/.gtkrc-2.0 that tells gtk+ to use the icon theme
  (for example: gtk-icon-theme-name = gnome)

Alternatively upgrading to a recent GTK+-2.4 release would have fixed
the problem.

You should perhaps have mentioned that there's also Open Location in
the toolbox which offers an entry to paste URLs or filenames to.


Sven
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[Gimp-user] png problem

2004-09-19 Thread Russell Butler
Dear all
Sorry if  I am asking on the wrong list, as this may not actually be a 
GIMP problem.

 I am trying to make a menu for a DVD, and following instructions at
http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/dvdauthor_howto.php
I made a background as .jpg, and two buttons as .png files - to show 
highlighted and selected. No problems, and quite fun. Actually 
learnt something of Gimp layers, which I had been intending to do for 
months.

jpg is OK, but png's fail to load when  I try to use spumux to multiplex 
the button .pngs with the background.

I tried to open the .pngs with kiconedit, and in konqueror, but no joy. 
They display fine with Mozilla.

System Mandrake 10.  I have tried saving from both Gimp 1.2 and 1.3
I can easily post the files if there is any need - nothing confidential 
in a couple of coloured rectangles.

Thanks for any help
Russell
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Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker

2004-09-19 Thread David Neary
Hi,

Sven Neumann wrote:
 See my other response in this thread. The error that the original
 poster was seeing when starting up GIMP is completely unrelated to the
 installation prefix he has choosen. He simply forgot to run ldconfig.

Ah - I was under the impression that libtool took care of that at
install time nowadays.

 You should perhaps have mentioned that there's also Open Location in
 the toolbox which offers an entry to paste URLs or filenames to.

Ah - I would have if I'd thought of it :)

Cheers,
Dave.

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[Gimp-user] keybinding for File-Open Location [was: Gimp 2.1.4 filepicker]

2004-09-19 Thread Sven Neumann
Hi,

David Neary [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  You should perhaps have mentioned that there's also Open
  Location in the toolbox which offers an entry to paste URLs or
  filenames to.
 
 Ah - I would have if I'd thought of it :)

While we are on it. The HIG suggests to use Ctrl-L as the default
keybinding for File-Open Location. I would like to follow this
suggestion but we already use Ctrl-L to bring up the Layers dialog.
Since that's a longstanding keybinding I am somewhat reluctant to
changing it. On the other hand it would be good to follow the HIG
advice here in order to be more consistent with other apps and also in
order to get people used to the otherwise hidden Ctrl-L feature in the
File Open dialog.

So what do our users think about this? What would be a good
alternative keybinding for the Layers dialog? Does it need one at all?


Sven
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[Gimp-user] gimp in one window

2004-09-19 Thread William Skaggs


Yemu wrote:
 my question is: is it possible to have gimp in one window? like
 in other graphic programs - not to mention photoshop or photo-paint. i found
 something like regimp but this software is old now. 

You might take a look at

http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=3892

which is a plug-in called Windows Gimp Deweirdifyer.  It is rather
deprecated by the GIMP developers because of the obnoxious name and
inelegant coding, but a substantial number of Windows GIMP users seem
to like it in spite of its imperfections.

You can find more discussion of the plug-in, and this topic in general,
than you could possibly want to read at 

http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7379

and

http://gug.sunsite.dk/forum/?threadid=1630

Best,
  -- Bill

 

 
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp in one window

2004-09-19 Thread Tom Williams
Sven Neumann wrote:
Hi,
William Skaggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 

You might take a look at
http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=3892
which is a plug-in called Windows Gimp Deweirdifyer.  It is rather
deprecated by the GIMP developers because of the obnoxious name and
inelegant coding, but a substantial number of Windows GIMP users seem
to like it in spite of its imperfections.
   

I would suggest to not use this plug-in but use a virtual desktop
instead. There are several implementation for virtual desktops on
Windows and, from what I heard, whoever tried it doesn't want to miss
that functionality any longer.
Sven
 

Why would a virtual desktop be preferred?  Would it be to keep all of 
the Gimp windows on the other desktop to keep the main desktop 
relatively clutter free?

Peace...
Tom
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp in one window

2004-09-19 Thread matt-nc
At 08:35 AM 9/19/04 -0700, you wrote:
You might take a look at
http://registry.gimp.org/plugin?id=3892
which is a plug-in called Windows Gimp Deweirdifyer.  It is rather
deprecated by the GIMP developers because of the obnoxious name ...
How about calling it the Windows Gimp Unifier (if the Deweirdifyer name is 
offensive and hinders its success.)

No offense :-)
Matt
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Re: [Gimp-user] gimp in one window

2004-09-19 Thread William Skaggs


Matt wrote:
which is a plug-in called Windows Gimp Deweirdifyer.  It is rather
deprecated by the GIMP developers because of the obnoxious name ...

 How about calling it the Windows Gimp Unifier (if the Deweirdifyer name is
 offensive and hinders its success.)

 No offense :-)

I see that I may have inadvertantly given the impression that I have
something to do with that plug-in.  Not so:  I have never even used
it, or GIMP on Windows at all for that matter.  Joe Marshall is
the creator of the Deweirdifier.

Best,
  -- Bill
 

 
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[Gimp-user] How to change the size of tool previews in Gimp 2.0?

2004-09-19 Thread Peter Lampione
I am learning how to use Gimp 2.0, and being a former (chemical) darkroom
enthusiast, I am playing with obtaining b/w images from color ones.

The problem I encounter is that the Channel Mixer dialog shows a preview
of the resulting image that is very small - too small to have a clear
idea of the result.  How can I change the size of that preview?  I tried
with the preferences menu, changing the Interface/Previews item, but
it had no effect.
If this matters, I am using the following version of Gimp: 2.0.4-1
(Debian).

Thank you,

Peter

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Re: [Gimp-user] How to change the size of tool previews in Gimp 2.0?

2004-09-19 Thread Carol Spears
hello,
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 05:32:46PM -0700, Peter Lampione wrote:
 I am learning how to use Gimp 2.0, and being a former (chemical) darkroom
 enthusiast, I am playing with obtaining b/w images from color ones.
 
 The problem I encounter is that the Channel Mixer dialog shows a preview
 of the resulting image that is very small - too small to have a clear
 idea of the result.  How can I change the size of that preview?  I tried
 with the preferences menu, changing the Interface/Previews item, but
 it had no effect.
 If this matters, I am using the following version of Gimp: 2.0.4-1
 (Debian).
 
well, it is not an official thing, no changelog entry count or anything
like that, just what i read from the developers interaction -- there are
great plans and such being worked on right now for all of the previews.

not only are new previews showing up in dialogs all the time (i use
gimp-2.1 from cvs) but the plans that are bantered back and forth should
make (for once) a beautiful preview interface that can be used by all of
the plug-ins.

so, i guess that gimp-2.2 will cover most of your preview needs.

channel mixer is sorta cool, isn't it?

carol

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Re: [Gimp-user] keybinding for File-Open Location

2004-09-19 Thread Carol Spears
On Sun, Sep 19, 2004 at 03:51:07PM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote:
 
 While we are on it. The HIG suggests to use Ctrl-L as the default
 keybinding for File-Open Location. I would like to follow this
 suggestion but we already use Ctrl-L to bring up the Layers dialog.
 Since that's a longstanding keybinding I am somewhat reluctant to
 changing it. On the other hand it would be good to follow the HIG
 advice here in order to be more consistent with other apps and also in
 order to get people used to the otherwise hidden Ctrl-L feature in the
 File Open dialog.
 
 So what do our users think about this? What would be a good
 alternative keybinding for the Layers dialog? Does it need one at all?
 
okay, an opinion from the other direction.

i dont use key-bindings.

ctl-l for location is not intuitive, ctl-l for layer is.

all of a sudden, now i need to use key-bindings.  i really did have it
in my list of good things to do to learn keybindings.  however, when i
do learn these things, i would like to learn the key-bindings that all
the people who were *doing* graphics determined were good and useful.

i find it interesting all of the people who now have problems with it.
people who actually use the application to make computer graphics, i am
willing to bet.  not people who open apps and try to figure out what it
does.  as soon as you had a need for gimp-1.0 or an idea, the gui was
no problem.  this is not the case anymore.  now you have a need or an
idea and the gui is a problem.

i say that when i learn keybindings, i would like to use ctl-l for
layer, since this is what the gimp is truly very good at.

knowing where your files are located is something that users should
know.  the people who prefer this gui probably have no idea where their
files were stored by the app they last used that was like this.

carol

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