Re: [Gimp-user] "Add Glow" and "Center Layer"
On Sunday 11 December 2005 12:07, michael chang wrote: [...] > The essential question is if it is _NECESSARY_ to compile gimp-perl > for the user's system. No one using SuSE has answered this. > > Do you currently have a SuSE 9.2 Pro system accesssable to you? It > would be nice if you could get gimp-perl 2.0 working with GIMP on it > (preferably via binary packages, although any method is fine) and > inform the original poster (CCed in this post -- BTW, Myke, are you > on the list?) of how it is done. It would even be informative to > just tell us that this is only available in SuSE 10 or newer or > similar. > > Again, if it is not possible to get it running, I hope downgrading to > GIMP 1.2 is an option. > > My only other thought is - could SuSE have gone and bundled gimp-perl > with the system and then removed the scripts for "Add Glow" and > "Center Layer"? If so, then those two script would have to be > manually retrieved and placed in the correct location by the user... > (I would hope this is just me being paranoid and very UNTRUE.) > > -- > ~Mike > - Just the crazy copy cat. hey Mike, I wasn't intending to get drawn into this problem as much as I have, but circumstances has created a problem I want to solve now. :o) I do have a 9.2 available to me, so I can compile or check things there to test for Myke's setup. Since I don't have the plug-in that Myke needs or is missing, I need to get that first. At that point I should be able to determine what is needed to run it. I will assume that these plug-ins will still run in Gimp 2.x?? I know many of these things have been changed and many updated along the way. I remember hearing about several python plug-ins, but not much about the Perl ones. If the plug-ins Myke is needing will no longer work in 2.x Gimp, this whole discussion is a mute point. In the meantime, I'll check the 9.2 DVD and the installed 9.2 setup. I don't think we have a world changing problem here, so hopefully we'll have an answer soon. end of line Pat ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] compiling on SuSE (was "Add Glow" and "Center Layer")
On Sunday 11 December 2005 13:18, Akkana Peck wrote: > Manish Singh writes: > > But one of Myke's problems was that he managed to get the > > gimp-devel package installed without having glib-devel installed. > > This means that > > SuSE users trying to get gimp-devel working (e.g. to compile > plug-ins) will probably also need to install XFree86-libs-dev. > I don't know if it's needed for gimp-perl, but it's needed for > some plug-ins and isn't pulled in automatically. > > ...Akkana > ___ Can someone supply me with or point me to the plug-ins Myke is needing. I would like to run some tests to see how things work with perl. I found some plug-ins in Gimp that sound like what he is wanting, but at this point my curiosity is peaked and I'm going to try to run down some things, others think are problems. Myke, I have a 9.2 setup I can compile on if necessary, although I'm running 10 myself, so we should be able to get you some rpms, if they are needed at all. later, Pat ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] "Add Glow" and "Center Layer"
On Sunday 11 December 2005 15:13, Manish Singh wrote: [...] > When distro people screw up and the support issues land here, I feel > justified to express my displeasure of having to clean up their > messes, especially since they actually charge money and have a > support and QA staff who have a job to do. > > You're the one who is dragging this on, and being insulting and not > actually having any content in your attempt at rebuttals, so your > tone is far far worse than mine. > > So yes, let's end this, and next time, stick to facts instead of your > emotional attachment to your distro. > > -Yosh > ___ Well, again, I find fault with your research Yosh. SuSE as Debian, or any distro with resemblance/link to Debian, does have a freely downloadable and open sibling. Being stuck in the cave you live in for so long, word might not have gotten to you yet. Check it out, OpenSuSE! That, like any distro your mind tells you is "free", is built with public input and participation. You can even take it and make your own, if you desire, just leave the names SuSE & Novell out of your build. You seem to want lay blame on the distro, when it could be something else or the combination of other things. Again, your research fails you, yet you continue to want to blame and belittle a very good Linux distro. Has someone appointed you the Linux police while everyone wasn't looking. You don't need to point out anything to anyone, just help with the problem, not add to it. I'll also ask you one more time to stop sending out two emails! I know Mutt can do it, but you seem to be unable too. Just one email to the list is all that is required. Think you can get that right? end of line Pat ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] "Add Glow" and "Center Layer"
On Sunday 11 December 2005 05:25, Manish Singh wrote: [...] > I put thought into it. As I pointed out in my other mail, it seems > like you're the one who didn't think things through before sending > out emails. > > A gimp-devel package *must* have a dependency that either directly or > indirectly pulls in glib-devel. If it doesn't, the package's > dependency specification is broken. > > SuSE has a history of being shoddy in this regard, other examples > that have affected gimp are glib-devel not requiring pkg-config, > aalib being linked against slang but not requiring slang-devel, and a > few more I can't recall off the top of my head right now. > > Please next time actually read and comprehend what's going on in the > thread instead of sending out poorly researched knee-jerk defenses of > your pet Linux distro. > > -Yosh > ___ Yosh, I'm convinced you like whatever distro you're using as I do mine, but I'm also very sure you haven't done much research into what you are commenting about. Now there's no need for us to get into a distro war of words here, as that is not why the list is here. We are trying to solve problems folks are having with Gimp not run down a particular distro we don't use or like. Well I am, but your responses take on a different tone. You can't assume from a past experience or hearsay that what you say is true now about SuSE. Those of us that use it know how well it operates directly. Now let's move on to talking Gimp. regards, Pat -- -- KMail v1.9 -- KDE v3.5 -- SuSE Linux v10.0 -- Registered Linux User #225206 Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include a free trip around the sun every year. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] "Add Glow" and "Center Layer"
On Sunday 11 December 2005 05:16, Manish Singh wrote: > On Sat, Dec 10, 2005 at 10:10:50PM -0500, BandiPat wrote: > > To Manish Singh: > > SuSE and YaST2 work as well or better than any other file install > > utility at solving dependencies. Thing you fail to realize is that > > -devel files are not dependencies. The main files don't need the > > -devel files to operate, nor does the system. They are only needed > > if the user intends to compile things. The best thing to do when > > installing any Linux is to just include -devel files or add them at > > install time. [...] So either SuSE screwed up, which they have a history of doing (glib-devel didn't depend on pkg-config for several releases, and I'm not sure if it's fixed even now), or Myke used rpm --force (which I doubt). If you look at Debian or Red Hat, libgimp2.0-dev or gimp-devel have a dependency on libgtk2.0-dev or gtk2-devel, respectively, which of course lets apt/yum/yast/etc. do resolve things properly. > > It sounds like you're the one who has failed to realize the -devel > packages both can and do have dependencies. > > -Yosh > ___ Sure they (-devel files) have dependencies too and if they are found YaST2 solves them or alerts you to them. All the things you mention, you assumed happened, so I'm going to assume you don't really know what you're talking about, if you're not running SuSE too. Of course, if you like, you can use apt/yum/smart/ in SuSE too. So, considering that SuSE gives you all those, are you just blaming yast2 or SuSE? You seem to assume a lot here. -Lee ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] "Add Glow" and "Center Layer"
On Saturday 10 December 2005 13:50, Manish Singh wrote: [...] > So, with installing glib2-devel, did that work? If not, install > gtk-devel, pango-devel, and atk-devel as well. > > It's rather disappointing that after all these years, SuSE still > can't get their package dependencies right. > > -Yosh > ___ Yosh, Those statements are just plain silly. Obviously you know very little about SuSE or didn't put much thought into those two sentences before sending out the mail. end of line Pat ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] "Add Glow" and "Center Layer"
On Saturday 10 December 2005 20:12, michael chang wrote: > Trying to answer Pat's cry for a summary... [...] > -- > ~Mike > - Just the crazy copy cat. Thanks Mike for the reprint. Also, no need to send out two mails. I'm on this list, so read the list mail. One mail to the list will suffice. Sounds like the OP is confused at what they need to get things compiled. I'm sure all the chatter about how to solve it and the debate on distros has cleared things up considerably too. (not) ;o) I'm guessing if SuSE thought it was needed, it would be installed as a dependency or be available to install for compiling. They are pretty efficient like that. To Manish Singh: SuSE and YaST2 work as well or better than any other file install utility at solving dependencies. Thing you fail to realize is that -devel files are not dependencies. The main files don't need the -devel files to operate, nor does the system. They are only needed if the user intends to compile things. The best thing to do when installing any Linux is to just include -devel files or add them at install time. later, Pat ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] "Add Glow" and "Center Layer"
On Thursday 08 December 2005 23:26, Carol Spears wrote: [...] > i did not mean to say anything bad about suse. i have been alive for > several decades and have other experiences that make me question the > title "professional" in things and when describing people. and not > all experiences with the title have been bad either. it really > simply seems to be independent of the word, whether the software or > the person is such. > > i stated and i meant it, that i have never used the distribution. > this is the reason i wanted to know how it works. both to build > things on and to get answers from. >= Oh I understand Carol. I'm not pointing fingers either, I was just wondering what all the noise was about for such a simple thing, it seemed to me. Building/compiling things are as simple in SuSE as they are in any Linux. You need certain files & devel files installed to compile different programs. The compile will tell you if they aren't present. If certain programs haven't been updated to work with the newer GCC, you might run into problems, but that's not as likely as missing files. SuSE 10 uses the new GCC 4 now and I don't believe Debian is there yet. That's not an odd thing for Debian and sometimes it's difficult running a leading edge distro, but most times it's enjoyable. - > > It's those darn Debian users that confuse things while not > > following the LSB, etc. Maybe one day they can use a good Linux > > distro too? Don't you think SuSE people? ;o) > > i use debian because the gimp people suggested it. working with > debian and working with them have both been challenges. > > i can make my computer work and i can make software work, but i > cannot make a place for myself in the world. at this point, it seems > that it would take little boys to grow up or old boys to shut up or > other women to give it up -- i dunno. > > does anyone know a good lawyer? forget the distribution and license > wars. I am simply in need of a good lawyer now, myself. it is much > more important than whether gimp-perl can build on suse or not. it > is even more important than if gimp is better than other apps or can > do this or has a useable gui. > > this one human being needs a lawyer. > > thanks, > > carol > ___ Oh good grief, let's not bring in any lawyers, it's confusing enough as it is!! ;o) Basically Carol, Linux is Linux. There are some differences, but when things work, they work as Linux. Now all we need to do is figure out what is going on and simply how to fix it. Explain the problem from the original poster (OP) please or somebody, to see if things are simply misunderstandings or really complicated. thanks,. Pat ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] "Add Glow" and "Center Layer"
On Thursday 08 December 2005 14:54, Carol Spears wrote: [...] > i did not suggest reporting a bug -- i have no idea how they work. i > suggested contacting them. > > it builds fine on debian. it builds fine on whatever seth is working > on. i read of other people using it. the suggestion that other > plug-ins be built is a good one -- it would take an interested SUSE > user to build one though. > > the fact that Patrick is having problems with it eliminates a lot of > needing to prove there is a problem for me. > > i would like to see how they work with that "Professional" titled > distribution, personally -- just so you know i do have a personal > interest in this. > > carol Ok, somebody help clue me in here. I've been following this thread somewhat, but not enough that I remember what it started about. Seems someone running SuSE tried to build/compile a plugin that needed gimp-perl, then everything got sidetracked with gimp-perl and harsh remarks about SuSE. Is that the gist of it? It sounds like a simple problem overall, especially in SuSE. ;o) It's those darn Debian users that confuse things while not following the LSB, etc. Maybe one day they can use a good Linux distro too? Don't you think SuSE people? ;o) regards, Pat -- -- KMail v1.9 -- KDE v3.5 -- SuSE Linux v10.0 -- Registered Linux User #225206 Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include a free trip around the sun every year. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp on OS 10.43
On Friday 02 December 2005 22:17, Warren Baird wrote: > BandiPat wrote: > > Warren, > > Ever thought about installing a native Linux install with your Mac? > > I'm guessing you will see quite a difference running Gimp in Linux > > on that PPC! There are several available now and SuSE has started > > it's new 10 on PPC as well. If you have the hard drive space, I > > think it would be worth your time. > > Hmm. I was dubious - but the results were more interesting than I > thought they'd be. I tried using the Ubuntu 5.04 PPC live cd, which > has gimp v2.2.2 on it. I also retested on mac os x, since I've > upgraded to a 1.2 ghz ibook since I last tested things. > > Here's the full summary: All tests were done on the same 8megapixel > image (taken with a canon digital rebel xt - the file is slightly > under 2mb) > > ibook 800mhz g4 mac os x: unsharp mask: 75s, gausian blur: 65s > ibook 1.2ghz g4 mac os x: unsharp mask: 44s, gausian blur: 55s > ibook 1.2ghz g4 linux:unsharp mask: 22s, gausian blur: 29s > athlon 1800+ linux: unsharp mask: 17s, gausian blue: 18s > > for comparison, photoshop on a 800mhz g4 took about 5s for both > unsharp mask and gausian blur. > > It's not clear to me why the linux version is so much faster on the > same hardware - There must be something interesting going on... > > I'm going to try to get a build of the gimp from source on my machine > this weekend to see if I can get some profiling info... > > Warren It's simple, Apple strangles the Unix that is on the machine. If you had a straight install of Unix without anything Apple over or under it, you would see a dramatic increase in speed also. I read an article a few months ago about the problems associated with OS X on their machines. I wish I could remember where it was, so I could point you to it. It's just Apple's way of taking something really good and making it less than perfect with their add ons. Every user I've talked to or article I've read remarks how much faster Linux is on the PPC than OS X. It's a great cpu, sadly Apple didn't want it to appear that way. regards, Lee -- -- KMail v1.9 -- KDE v3.5 -- SuSE Linux v10.0 -- Registered Linux User #225206 Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include a free trip around the sun every year. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp on OS 10.43
On Wednesday 30 November 2005 16:42, Warren Baird wrote: > On 11/30/05, Axel Wernicke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > @Warren: the slowdown in the gui is probably caused by Apples X11. > > That might be change in future with the hopefully upcoming native > > gtk+ for OS X. > > It's not a GUI slowdown that I'm talking about --- it's ops like > doing an unsharp mask.. > > I did some comparisons a while back between linux on an athlon 1800+ > (1.5ghz), and macosx on an 800mhz g4, and for an 8 megapixel image, > linux was > taking 18s to do the unsharp mask, and the mac was taking 75s --- > much slower than the relative clock speeds. For comparison, > Photoshop takes about 5s to do the unsharp mask on the mac. > > It does make it pretty painful to use. I was actually contemplating > buying photoshop - but I've been using the gimp for so long I don't > want to switch > > I was going to fire up a profiler and see what's happening - but the > last time I tried I couldn't get the gimp to compile through fink... > > I assume that the code isn't using X to do the actual bitmap > manipulations, so I doubt the native gtk+ implemenation will help me > here. It'll still be nice though... :-) > > > Warren === Warren, Ever thought about installing a native Linux install with your Mac? I'm guessing you will see quite a difference running Gimp in Linux on that PPC! There are several available now and SuSE has started it's new 10 on PPC as well. If you have the hard drive space, I think it would be worth your time. regards, Lee -- -- KMail v1.9 -- KDE v3.5 -- SuSE Linux v10.0 -- Registered Linux User #225206 Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include a free trip around the sun every year. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Screencapture Question
On Wednesday 26 October 2005 04:39 pm, Carol Spears wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2005 at 01:45:45PM -0400, Kaplan, Andrew H. wrote: > > Hi there -- > > > > I am running GIMP 2.2 and am trying to capture a section of rather > > than the entire screen. I go to File/Acquire and select Single > > Window in the Grab utility. A cross hairs appears and I select a > > portion of the screen. > > > > However, instead of just that area of the screen being captured, > > the entire screen is captured. What steps or settings do I need to > > change to correct this? > > Single window capture is just that. You will get a single window. > In gimp-2.3 there is a select a region of your desktop option. Since > gimp has never had this option, i have had a difficult time > remembering to try it even (old work habits die hard or something). > > carol > > ___ Thanks Carol, I wasn't sure of the Gimp's screen capture, because I never use it, so I'm glad you answered what it will do. To Andrew though, if you are running KDE on your system, KSnapshot will do exactly what you are looking for. Not sure what system you are running, mine is SuSE and it's part of the kdegraphics files, but if you're running a different Linux, it will be part of something else in KDE. Of course, if you are running something else, you're on your own! ;o) Patrick -- --- KMail v1.8.3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v10.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include a free trip around the sun every year. ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp 2.2.8 broken after system upgrade.
On Monday 29 August 2005 03:44 pm, Rikard Johnels wrote: > Hi all. > I upgraded my SuSE 9.2 system a few hours ago using apt. > And among the things upgraded was cairo and a few others. > Now all the menu's in Gimp are black. > Black text on black background isn't to easy to read. :( > > What happened? What do i have to reinstall or downgrade? > > gimp-2.2.8-5 > cairo-0.9.2-4 >= Rikard, This was discussed on the SuSE mail list just recently and what you needed to do to fix this. I'm sorry, I don't remember exactly what it was, but the mails will be in the archives. I think it was a simple matter of installing or updating one file. regards, Lee ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Multiple file scaling
On Friday 24 June 2005 10:45 am, Andreas Waechter wrote: > nuno alexandre wrote: > > Oh and BTW, > > Can you _please_ reply only to the list and not to me personally, > > unless requested ? > > Unfortunately (IMO) this list is set up so that a "Reply" > goes NOT to the list but to the original sender of the message. > I don't know why this list is set up in this way - replying > to the list (for public discussion) is IMO the standard > case, replying to someone personnally the exception - thus > the standard setup should be that a reply goes to the list. === Andreas, Not sure what is going on in your Thunderbird, maybe a setting or something, but "reply" should send it right back to the mail list. I know I can press "R" or "L" in KMail and it replies to the mail list for me. Usually Thunderbird is quite good at doing replies, so I'm thinking maybe a setting is off on your end. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 There's no problem so awful that you can't add some guilt to it and make it even worse! ...Calvin & Hobbes ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] archival-quality gilmp prints
On Thursday 09 June 2005 06:18 pm, Ken Tanaka wrote: > I use an Epson C-84 at home, so far the DuraBrite inks Epson uses for > prints are holding up well (about a year old). Their previous > generation of inks did fade with time, noticeably over 2 years. Look > for acid-free on the paper too. If you are picky, you might archive > the image files you like on CD-ROM and keep that with the pictures, > hopefully that will outlast the paper and allow you to reprint to > verify or replace paper photos at a later date. > > -Ken >--- > Helen wrote: > >I'm using an HP Deskjet 5550, on good-quality photo paper. > >My prints lose color in less than a year. > >Is there a way to prolong the life of a print, other than an > >extremely expensive giclee printer? > >Thanks, > >Helen Ken brings up some good points about backing up the pictures to CD for later use, but he also hit upon a point that gave me a thought. The ink has certainly improved in all the printers since so many are doing photos from them now, but the paper is equally as important. HP, of course, recommends HP photo paper for the best results and longest life with their inks, as does Epson with their papers & ink. The papers all work good in any printer, but have been tested to work best with their own inks. So, in other words, you will probably get the best life out of your printed photos, if you keep things in sync! regards, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 There's no problem so awful that you can't add some guilt to it and make it even worse! ...Calvin & Hobbes ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] OT GTK/SuSE/Gimp question
On Saturday 04 June 2005 11:44 am, Eric P wrote: > This is probably way off topic for this ML (so please ignore if you > want), but it started w/the Gimp, so what hell... > > I compiled new versions of atk/glib2/gtk2/pango in order to start > checking out the 2.3 series of the Gimp. > > Everything went fine. I removed the old atk/glib2/gtk2/pango RPMs > along w/their respected devel RPMs. I then make installed (via > checkinstall) all the new GTK and friends, so I now have lovely round > RPMs of each package installed. Now I compiled Gimp 2.3.0, and, yet > again, all went well. > > However, when I run YAST now, it insists on reinstalling the old GTK > (and friends) devel RPMs. Of course, I don't want to do that as the > new header files are already installed. The RPMs I created (with > checkinstall) contain the header files. The RPM packages just > weren't broken out into 2 RPMs per package (i.e., binary RPM and > devel RPM) like SuSE and other distros tend to do. > > Any tips on this dilemma? > > Thanks for reading, > Eric P > > Ps. I'm running SuSE 9.2 pro = Eric, Did you get any conflicts or dependencies when trying to install the new rpms? I would guess you have a mismatch of sorts and that is why YaST2 wants to put things right. You can go into YaST2 software module and select those files you installed to set them as protected, so YaST2 doesn't complain continually. If you have been running YOU to stay updated, your glib2 files & pango files should be adequate to run Gimp newer versions, mine is. I don't have any trouble compiling the newer Gimp builds either. Here are presently installed 9.2 versions: glib2-devel-2.6.3-9 glib2-2.6.3-9 glib2-doc-2.6.3-9 pango-devel-1.4.1-3 pango-1.4.1-3 pango-doc-1.4.1-3 regards, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 There's no problem so awful that you can't add some guilt to it and make it even worse! ...Calvin & Hobbes ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Updates
On Thursday 26 May 2005 03:36 pm, Carol Spears wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 02:23:23PM -0400, BandiPat wrote: > > I'll try to clarify Pierre's & Erika's points, if I'm reading them > > correctly. You have obviously gone off in a different direction > > than I think either of them were heading, but you also make some > > good points. Is that being diplomatic enough? ;o) > > thank you, and you are being diplomatic enough. > > i had no idea what i was getting into when i started to spend some of > my enthusiasm for great software and great ideas. i tried in another > email to express my warnings in a different language. > > there are so many reasons that the software does not compare. [...] > carol > > ___ Ok, that's where you take a different turn from the intended ideas. Nobody is wanting or trying to compare the programs. That's just not even logical, because they are so different and you have mentioned several others already. What we all, I think all, are doing, is suggesting a feature to be added to Gimp, for plugins, like the feature Firefox has for extensions. Adding, updating and removing plugins would become somewhat easier using this method for many using Gimp. Oh Carol & Alan, no need to send two mails, I get the list mail also, so one to the list will do. Hope that helps, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 There's no problem so awful that you can't add some guilt to it and make it even worse! ...Calvin ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Updates
On Thursday 26 May 2005 04:07 pm, Alan Horkan wrote: > > Have someone make a depositry of plugins > > http://registry.gimp.org > > It isn't as easy to use as the Mozilla plugin system but I wanted to > make sure you were aware of it. > > Sincerely > > Alan Horkan > http://advogato.org/person/AlanHorkan/ > > __ Thanks Alan, it's bookmarked now. :o) Patrick ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Updates
On Thursday 26 May 2005 01:16 pm, Carol Spears wrote: > On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 07:50:31PM +0300, Erika De Jesus wrote: > > Carol Spears wrote: > > >could you expand on the comparison for me? i do not see any > > >similarities and i am interested to see what similarities you see > > >between the two separately licensed, separately funded softwares > > > that do completely different tasks on my computer. > > > > > >help me with this one > > > > > >carol > > > > it's like this carol. > > > > firefox is expanded by millions of users worldwide by submitting > > themes, plugins, and extensions. i think pierre was talking about > > gimp should be the same. that it should also be expanded by users, > > since it is also open source. > > the comparison is: > > GIMP: open source app > > is to > > Firefox: open source app > > > > GIMP's plugins > > is to > > Firefox's extensions > > > > i hope i helped. :) > > no, not really. > > one is clearly gnu and the other is not so clearly mpl. there is a > bunch of online discussions of the similarities between mpl and lgpl, > so many discussions that the big question of "if they are the same, > what is the reason for the existence of two documents". > > one difference that just screams is the fact that gimp can make mng > but the "open source browser" cannot display them and the nice > developers that made a plug-in for this were scolded and it is no > longer available. > > millions of users with an mpl'ed voice, all working together > > carol = Hi Carol, I'll try to clarify Pierre's & Erika's points, if I'm reading them correctly. You have obviously gone off in a different direction than I think either of them were heading, but you also make some good points. Is that being diplomatic enough? ;o) They are not comparing the programs nor how they are wrote or what license they are under, but instead offering, I believe, a nice way for users to add things to their Gimps. The Gimp already includes several plugins, etc with each build and that's fine, those shouldn't be discarded. What they are suggesting, and Erika or Pierre correct me if I'm mistaken, is to make the plugins available like the extensions are available in Firefox. Have someone make a depositry of plugins available and fix Gimp so that from the menu, you can add or remove or update those plugins each user wants in their setup! This would allow more people to contribute to the plugins and also allow each user to decide which ones they want. Now I'm not sure if the Gimp folks check all the plugins out before making them available or adding them, but it would seem logical to me for them to have control over that, so no harmful plugins would be submitted. Have a contributor send the plugins to someplace, let the developers check them out, then put them up for users to add to their Gimp setup. This, I think would make it much easier to add plugins as well as find them. I think it would be a good idea to implement something of this nature. I hope I was able to clarify it a bit more and wasn't misreading the other's mails. regards, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 There's no problem so awful that you can't add some guilt to it and make it even worse! ...Calvin & Hobbes ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP merchandising
On Thursday 19 May 2005 07:32 am, Dave Neary wrote: > Hi all, > > As many of you know, we have an informal merchandising arrangement > with Sourcewear.com which has raise a few dollars this year (not > much, though). > > I would like to improve on this relationship, and I know that > Federico at sourcewear feels the same. For my part, I'd like to see > better products, and more products, as well as formalising the cut we > get from merchandising (this is currently an informal arrangement, I > think that we should get an engagement on paper). > > For their part, they would like to continue having their logo on the > arm (which I'm OK with), and they would like to be our official > merchandiser - that is, have a place in the sidebar on every page, > and a place of prominence on the front page. > > That's why I'm writing here. Is this arrangement OK with people? I > will firm things up quickly with Federico if it is, but I didn't want > to start negociating something without running it past the communtiy > that has stuck with the GIMP. > > Lazy approval is in effect - if you haven't replied in 3 days, I'll > assume everyone's happy with this. > > Cheers, > Dave. =-== Assume away, Dave, it sounds good to me too! Patrick -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "He's not my brother, he's just heavy." Bucky Katt ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Window issue
On Wednesday 18 May 2005 01:03 pm, Erica De Jesus wrote: > > > >http-equiv="Content-Type"> > > I am currently experiencing problems with the > GIMP Deweirdifyer plug-in. It claims to make GIMP stay in one window, > one icon in the task bar, but it doesn't. I am using Windows XP with > GIMP v2.2.7 and the description in the official GIMP plug-ins site > says it supports XP. It only shows the background window that was > supposed to handle the GIMP windows, but the GIMP's toolbox and > windows were still in a different window. Does anyone know how to fix > this, or is the plug-in really non-working? > > > == Erica, Not trying to be rude, but would you please use an email program without HTML formatting for this list? I don't know if you can turn it off in Yahoo, but believe you can. I know most allow you to and it is very messy looking and difficult to read, as you can see above. That's partly how it appears to us that don't use html mail. Thanks, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.8 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "He's not my brother, he's just heavy." Bucky Katt ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: virus?
On Monday 14 February 2005 02:07 pm, GSR - FR wrote: [...] > So can we drop the thing now? If something else, you should contact > the mail admins. The rest of people should have filters, antivirus, > patched systems and so on if they want to keep on Internet without > more problems than ISP cutting lines and saying "it was not us, > please check your network configuration". ;] > > GSR == Actually GSR, I dropped it after I sent the original. I only pointed it out, as I mentioned in my second mail, so as to bring attention to it and possibly the user infected. I'm sure that they don't like being infected anymore than we like getting their infected mails. Usually just putting a Windows machine on the internet means it's infected, so that part is not too difficult to discern, but again, point was made, discussion ensued and now let's move on. regards, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [Gimp-user] virus?
On Monday 14 February 2005 12:41 pm, Joao S. O. Bueno Calligaris wrote: > On Monday 14 February 2005 15:18, Matthew H. Plough wrote: > > Michael Schumacher wrote: > > > > > > Yes, this would be a great idea. Fortunately, since none > > of us Windows lusers have anything to contribute to holy Linux OSS > > discussions, this won't affect the list in any way. > > Ermm.,, > You should beware that not everyone mark their sarcastic coments with > pseudo html. > > And..for now, I think everyone has had enough of this - could we go > back to the GIMP, please? > > > ___ Yes, Joao is correct. Let's get back to Gimp things. I failed to add a smiley face to my comments about restricting Windows mail, as I know that shouldn't happen. I would like to get those people converted to Linux though! ;o) Anyway, I just wanted to confirm Andy's statements about the virus and to hopefully run down the offender to fix their Windows box. Akkana was right that the original mail was meant not to point fingers, but just to alert and possibly get some of our Windows users to consider something better. Now back to our regularly scheduled program, discussion, etc. ;o) Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." ...Mark Twain ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] virus?
Hey all, Someone brought up the problem of a virus being passed around from the list a few days ago. I remember everyone kind of shot him down though. Well, I have been getting them as well and another just today. ** EARTHLINK VIRUS BLOCKER MESSAGE STATUS ** MESSAGE QUARANTINED Virus Detected: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Details: From: "Mplough" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gimp-user" Subject: [Gimp-user] Registration is accepted Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:40:34 +0100 EarthLink Virus Blocker has quarantined a message sent to you because it contains a virus that cannot be removed or disabled. I don't have the message, so am unable to view the source or send it to you, but it seems there is indeed one lurking on a Windows machine somewhere that is on this list. I wonder sometimes if it would be wise to block all Windows generated email to a list anymore. Lucky for those of us that use Linux. later, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." ...Mark Twain ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] File browser preview? (SOLVED)
On Saturday 15 January 2005 06:02 am, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > Eric Pierce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Ok, I'm adding more to my email. since I have learned more since > >> asking the original question. It seems that SuSE has done > >> something to their build of Gimp 2.0.4 that is provided with 9.2 > >> that disables the preview pane in the file browser. In looking at > >> their src rpm, I find, what looks like a file added to disable > >> that. > > Are you sure it is disabled in the build? Perhaps you just disabled > thumbnails in the Preferences dialog? You should also note that GIMP > 2.0 doesn't create the thumbnails automatically. You need to click > the preview area to make it generate the thumbnail for the selected > file(s). > > > Sven > ___ Ok, everyone, thanks for the thoughts and help, I have 2.2.2 compiled and working nicely on SuSE 9.2 now! Seems my compile problem was a bad libgsf file/s, so took care of that and Gimp went nicely. Nice new SuSE rpms built now and I'll happily provide them to anyone needing them, if that's ok with the developers? From info I got in my quest to get this worked out, I was told there was a bug, of this nature, in the 2.0.4 Gimp files and was reported as such. No matter though, 2.2.2 is always better to have! Thanks to everyone and especially the Gimp contributors/developers for such great work! Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "Don't let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game!" ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] File browser preview?
On Friday 14 January 2005 09:32 pm, Eric Pierce wrote: [...] > > = > > > > Ok, I'm adding more to my email. since I have learned more since > > asking the original question. It seems that SuSE has done > > something to their build of Gimp 2.0.4 that is provided with 9.2 > > that disables the preview pane in the file browser. In looking at > > their src rpm, I find, what looks like a file added to disable > > that. > > > > Now, next question? Anyone know of a new 2.2.2 Gimp rpm for SuSE > > 9.2? I tried compiling, but something happened during the configure > > that I haven't seen before and it failed horribly! I'll try again > > later, but in the mean time, if anyone knows where to find a good > > rpm already compiled for SuSE 9.2, that will work for me too. ;o) > > > > regards, > > Patrick > > I think you'll need to compile GTK and friends first. Then the Gimp. > > EP > ___ Thanks, Eric, but GTK is installed & GTK2 as well. My compile went a bit better this time, getting pass the translation files, but there still seems to be a problem. Maybe someone can determine something from the errors: /opt/gnome/lib/libgsf-1.so.1: undefined reference to `g_assert_warning' /opt/gnome/lib/libgsf-1.so.1: undefined reference to `g_return_if_fail_warning' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [svg] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/work/Gnome/gimp-2.2.2/plug-ins/common' libgsf and all associated files are installed: libgsf-doc-1.11.1-3 libgsf-1.11.1-3 libgsf-devel-1.11.1-3 libgsf-gnome-1.11.1-3 I'll keep looking... Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "Don't let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game!" ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] File browser preview?
On Friday 14 January 2005 03:53 pm, BandiPat wrote: > Hi all, > I seem to remember some discussion about this once, but not sure. It > may have been more yelling about the new file browser look than > anything too. ;o) > > Anyway, is it still possible to get a mini preview window for the > files you intend to load? That was in the earlier Gnome & Gimp, but > I can't seem to find it now, if it's still available. Some other > local users here say they still have it with Gimp 2.0.x versions, but > I'm not sure what version of Gnome files they are running. I think > mine are 2.6 presently and maybe it's just 2.8 that has the preview > now? > > Thanks, > Patrick = Ok, I'm adding more to my email. since I have learned more since asking the original question. It seems that SuSE has done something to their build of Gimp 2.0.4 that is provided with 9.2 that disables the preview pane in the file browser. In looking at their src rpm, I find, what looks like a file added to disable that. Now, next question? Anyone know of a new 2.2.2 Gimp rpm for SuSE 9.2? I tried compiling, but something happened during the configure that I haven't seen before and it failed horribly! I'll try again later, but in the mean time, if anyone knows where to find a good rpm already compiled for SuSE 9.2, that will work for me too. ;o) regards, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "Don't let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game!" ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] File browser preview?
Hi all, I seem to remember some discussion about this once, but not sure. It may have been more yelling about the new file browser look than anything too. ;o) Anyway, is it still possible to get a mini preview window for the files you intend to load? That was in the earlier Gnome & Gimp, but I can't seem to find it now, if it's still available. Some other local users here say they still have it with Gimp 2.0.x versions, but I'm not sure what version of Gnome files they are running. I think mine are 2.6 presently and maybe it's just 2.8 that has the preview now? Thanks, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 "Don't let the fear of striking out keep you from playing the game!" ___ Gimp-user mailing list Gimp-user@lists.xcf.berkeley.edu http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] dpi from 75 -> 300 ??
On Monday 13 September 2004 02:22 pm, Geoffrey wrote: > So here's a question which will demonstrate my ignorance. I've got > some digital photos I took that, when opened with GIMP are identified > as being 75dpi x72dpi. I need images that are 300 dpi, so is it > possible to convert the 75dpi image to 300 dpi?? I selected to scale > the image and happened to notice that I can make this change at this > point. Is this doing what I'm expecting? = Geoffrey, In the last Linux Journal magazine, October 2004, Issue 126, there is a wonderful article on Gimp and using it for professional photography! One of the best articles I've read and more than helpful and encouraging about the abilities of Gimp. The article itself is not online, but the resources are listed there. The author, RW Hawkins, has his site there as well and would be very helpful should you have detailed questions. That's not to say people on this list are not just as qualified to answer you, because they are! I just thought this might be of some interest to you and others, since you brought up digital photos and I know there is a lot of interest about that and the Gimp's ability to work with them effectively. Here is your resources site: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=7704 Hope that helps and if you don't have a copy of the mag, go get one, it's a nice article for info and on the Gimp! Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Those Who Dance Are Considered Insane, by Those Who Cannot Hear the Music! ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] gimp2 file selectors
On Saturday 04 September 2004 08:18 pm, Carol Spears wrote: > hello back, > > On Sun, Sep 05, 2004 at 01:48:06AM +0200, Sven Neumann wrote: > > Carol Spears <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > now, to the new file selector. there is a huge difference > > > between the file selector in gimp-2.0 and the file selector in > > > gimp-2.1. the newer of the two is an invalid (sickly person) > > > compared to its proud ancestors. i have tried to make a tutorial > > > that shows what the old file selector can do and what the new one > > > stuggles to do. the person who designed this is being paid by a > > > company -- it would be nice to see some evidence that it is not > > > an attempt to destroy free software. i cannot find this > > > evidence, however. > > > > Your comparison is interesting but the gimp-user list is of course > > the wrong address for complaints about GtkFileChooser. We can't > > really change the way this widget works. Why don't you send this > > mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead? > > well, it is not a complaint on this list. it is supposed to be more > for educational purposes. there are so many different operating > systems using the gimp that some of the nice things are not known and > also being design "out of existenence". > > as far as complaining to the proper channels, been there done that. > volunteers flew me thousands of miles. when i asked the Ximian > employee about this decision, he made it sound like all of these new > users (these gimp users, many on this list) were too stupid to > understand how to work the old file selector and that this ability > needed to be hidden from the simpletons. > > i consider the problem to be more of a lack of knowledge of the > capacity and am trying to educate users who are not simpletons to use > it. > > going through the right channels, i was told by [EMAIL PROTECTED] to > fork the gimp tool kit. > > education is the only thing that will help me. i think that the gimp > users are smart enough to be able to use such a complicated thing. > > carol > > ___ Carol, As much as I agree with you on the new file selectors and disappointment that the Gimp developers can't change them, I'm afraid this is the state of Gnome/GTK+ presently. If you haven't seen Gnome lately, 2.4 or 2.6 versions, then you will be even more disappointed. It seems that those developers have decided taking away user control over the interface will make it an easier transition for user's of other OS's to move to Linux. You have to realize now, it's worked for Apple & Windows so far. Hide everything, lock it into a consistent look & feel and remove as many user controls as possible to eliminate confusion on their part! Fortunately for us, the Linux users, we have other choices to go too that are still Linux oriented, full control, but this is not an option for Gimp, built so heavily within GTK+. Maybe something will change, maybe they'll realize the error of their ways, but presently, they have decided to go this route. We'll see if pays off and if it does, Linux gets more users and if not, the Linux users get an ugly GUI interface that can't be changed much. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Those Who Dance Are Considered Insane, by Those That Cannot Hear the Music! ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] OT another opinion
On Saturday 04 September 2004 07:29 pm, Carol Spears wrote: > sanitize everything: > > http://carol.gimp.org/gallery/ideas/keyboards/problemkeys.html > > in truth, i dont think that these keys should even have tux on them. > i think they should have this on them: > > http://carol.gimp.org/gallery/ideas/keyboards/solutions.html > > and that people should do this in their life also. > > carol > > ___ Carol, I'm so embarrassed! ;o) You are a silly girl, but make a good point here. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Those Who Dance Are Considered Insane, by Those That Cannot Hear the Music! ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] [OT] Marriage
On Saturday 04 September 2004 12:22 am, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: > Hi there, > > I know that although I had talked to several people here and on the > developers list in private terms, I never had talked about my > personal life to anyone. > > However, I am getting married today at 9h30 in the morning - and I > feel that is important enough for me to want to tell it to the > comunities I participate. > > After my marriage, I will have my name changed to "João Sebastião de > Oliveira Bueno Calligaris", as a recent change in the laws of my > country do allow me to pick a surname of hers - Which will be named > Juliana Pablos Calligaris Bueno from now on. > > JS > -><- > > ___ When two become one! Make it a lifelong commitment Joao! Best of luck! Patrick -- --- KMail v1.7 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 Those Who Dance Are Considered Insane, by Those That Cannot Hear the Music! ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Opening pictures
On Tuesday 22 June 2004 10:01 am, BandiPat wrote: > On Tuesday 22 June 2004 09:32 am, Sven Neumann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > BandiPat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > > > Now a question for you. A local user is trying to load up some > > > camera pictures into Gimp, but Gimp doesn't seem to like all the > > > pictures. Of 26 photos contained on her memory card, only eight > > > will open and if she trys to resave them to her hard drive from > > > Gimp, she gets this error: Saving > > > '/home/helen/Family/EmilyChloe.jpg' failed: > > >Plug-In could not save image > > > > Known (SuSE) problem: > > > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142252 > > > > > > Sven > > ___ [...] I'll pass this along to all here who run SuSE 9.1 and Sven, so that he might alert users as well. There is a fixed version of the libexif file for SuSE now. I was able to build a new one, but it required a bit more tweaking than I liked, so the nice SuSE guy that maintains these files alerted me he had posted a fixed version. Here is your site for the new file: ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/people/meissner Download the file from his libexif directory and install. All should be well with your camera files then. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.6.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Opening pictures
On Tuesday 22 June 2004 09:32 am, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > BandiPat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Let me first give kudos to the developers of the new Gimp! I had > > been keeping up with it during the 1.3 process somewhat, but not > > being a regular user of Gimp, waited to see the final 2.0 release > > until my Linux distro released their new version which included it. > > You guys have been busy! Wonderful changes, outstanding work on > > an already great program! My sincere admiration for all your hard > > work. :o) > > > > Now a question for you. A local user is trying to load up some > > camera pictures into Gimp, but Gimp doesn't seem to like all the > > pictures. Of 26 photos contained on her memory card, only eight > > will open and if she trys to resave them to her hard drive from > > Gimp, she gets this error: Saving > > '/home/helen/Family/EmilyChloe.jpg' failed: > >Plug-In could not save image > > Known (SuSE) problem: > > http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=142252 > > > Sven > ___ Ok, so the problem seems to be with the library, libexif.so.9.1.2, which is provided by SuSE's file libexif-0.5.12-118. Is it that it's a bad file, compile or just bad library? Could recompiling from the src.rpm correct the problem or is a newer version needed? Oh, no need to send two mails as I am on the list too. ;o) Thanks Patrick -- --- KMail v1.6.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Opening pictures
Hi Gimp List! Let me first give kudos to the developers of the new Gimp! I had been keeping up with it during the 1.3 process somewhat, but not being a regular user of Gimp, waited to see the final 2.0 release until my Linux distro released their new version which included it. You guys have been busy! Wonderful changes, outstanding work on an already great program! My sincere admiration for all your hard work. :o) Now a question for you. A local user is trying to load up some camera pictures into Gimp, but Gimp doesn't seem to like all the pictures. Of 26 photos contained on her memory card, only eight will open and if she trys to resave them to her hard drive from Gimp, she gets this error: Saving '/home/helen/Family/EmilyChloe.jpg' failed: Plug-In could not save image I think that is the same type of error when trying to load one that won't. Now my first thoughts are that she has not allocated enough memory in Gimp to load these 5+ megapixel photos, but the saving part confuses me. Looking at the pictures in a hexeditor shows them to be the standard jEXIF format and all of her viewers show the pictures. One thing I tried, was to open the "bad" image into ImageMagick, resize and save out as jpg. This too will not open for her or me and the file is considerably smaller. Hints, tips, suggestions? I can supply the picture to anyone wanting to take a look. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.6.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] install probs
On Friday 11 June 2004 11:11 am, squareyes wrote: > Hi all, > I had Gimp 2 up and running (from gimp-2.0.0-richard.1mdk.i586.rpm) > on Mandrake 10, which was installed as an update from Man 9.1. > Installed Gimp 2.0 with no probs, but have since had to reformat. > Installed Mandrake 10 as a fresh install, now am having probs getting > Gimp 2 to install from same rpm. Keep getting > > "Installation failed, some files are missing: > /mnt/cdrom/gimp-2.0.0-richard.1mdk.i586.rpm > You may want to update your urpmi database" > > Installed urpmi.setup to try and update, have no idea what I am > doing, as it seems to want to update the 4 Mandrake install disks, > which is not possible. > Have tried copying rpm to hard drive and installing from there, same. >== Winton, I'm no Mandrake expert by any means, but this error sounds like you are missing some needed GTK+ files. I suspect MDK 10 only installed the Gnome files needed to run most programs, but didn't some that Gimp needed. Just a guess, not certain. I would think when trying to install, it would give you more details though. What you might try is to install the rpm from a shell with: rpm -Uhv gimp-2.0.0-richard.1mdk.i586.rpm" If there are unmet dependencies or conflicts, they will show there. --- > Tried the rpm from Mandrake cooker site, and get this error message. > > "Some package requested cannot be installed: > gimp2_0-2.0.1-1mdk.i586 (due to unsatisfied libgimpwidgets-2.0.so.0) > do you agree ?" > > As I am unsatisfied most of the time I had to agree :-) > What is a libgimpwidget?, which ones do I need?, where would I get > them?, and if I can get them, what do I do with them? (without being > rude :-) ) Sorry I am a rank beginner here. > > > Any helpfull suggestions would be most gratefully accepted. > > Many thanks in advance, > Take Care > Winton == libgimpwidget is actually part of the Gimp rpm file. You can find this out by doing: rpm -q --whatprovides (name of file) This of course will only work if the file is installed on your system, otherwise you can view the files in the rpm with programs like Midnight Commander or Kpackage. Regards, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.6.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Re: Terrible time to get 2.01 running
On Monday 07 June 2004 06:58 pm, Robert Krueger wrote: [...] > Steve and Bill, > I found the file you noted in /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig.It's > the only location on my system that has this particular file, > although I do have other *.pc files in another location > /opt/gnome/lib/pkgconfig. So, if I understand this correctly, if I > eliminate the glib-2.0.pc from /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig, and then do > another "make install" from glib 2.2.3, it should recreate that file > again in that directory, correct? Now I'm just guessing, but there > must be an alternate file with 2.3.6 version somewhere, else how is > it getting that information? BTW, here's the result from > /usr/local/lib/pkgconfig/glib-2.0.pc: [...] > The result of this file leads me to believe there is another source > where pkgconfig is getting it's outdated info, i.e, glib 2.3.6. > > Robert > ___ Robert, I believe you mentioned that you are using SuSE 9.0 now? I don't remember what versions of glib & glib2 came with that now. I know a version 2.x, but don't remember the exact version without looking on my discs. Anyway, SuSE does have update files on their ftp to bring things up to 2.4 for glib2 at least. Since glib pertains to gtk and glib2 to the new gtk+, which I believe Gimp has also been updated to use, I'm pretty sure you won't find a 2.3 version of glib to use. Usually your odd versions are developer versions anyway. Be sure too, that you have all the -devel packages installed for compiling. I don't know how much you have been mucking around with your setup, but it sounds as if you might have gotten things wanky. You could always do a repair from your SuSE discs, to put things back or you could update to 9.1 and get Gimp 2.x in the process. ;o) You can also download the Gnome files from their ftp for 9.0 and probably settle things down too, if you are wanting to compile the newer version. One other thing, I believe in one of the mails, someone mentioned glibc. glibc is one of those things one should not mess with on their setup as it provides the base for all Linux. It is extremely fragile and updating or changing things are a bad idea. That's not to say one can't do it, but due to the nature of it's existence, it's recommended strongly not too! Regards, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.6.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.1 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GAP [was: How to merge two movies ? ]
On Thursday 25 March 2004 08:34 pm, Geoffrey wrote: > Gezim Hoxha wrote: > >>>Does this GAP thing have an option to export as > >> > >>.swf? > >> > >>>This, I could really use. > >> > >>No. And since shockwave flash is mainly a vector > >>animation file > >>format, GIMP is not the tool you want to use to > >>create or edit those. > > > > Yeah, you're right. But is there any tool that does > > this at this point in time for linux. It could be very > > simple, as long as it exports .swf . BTW, f4l doesn't > > do it. >--- > Openoffice will export to flash. And won't Inkscape & Sodipodi do vector graphics? Inkscape being the better of the two available for Linux right now. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.6.1 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] mdk sane + 2.0
On Sunday 15 February 2004 08:54 am, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > BandiPat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The Sane plugin for Gimp 2.0 has not been updated yet, but should > > be by the final release. I do believe that Sven or somebody did > > revise it themselves, but to keep conflicts down with the original > > maintainer, did not include it with the new Gimp. I'll let them > > comment on it's availability. > > You are confusing SANE and XSane here. SANE is the scanner > infrastructure and XSane is just an alternative GUI frontend to SANE. > IIRC both come with GIMP plug-ins. I don't know about the state of > the SANE plug-in but AFAIK the XSane plug-in hasn't been released for > GIMP-2.0 yet. The necessary changes are fairly trivial though and I > sent my patches to the plug-in author. He promised me to do an > updated release. If that hasn't happened yet, perhaps someone should > send him a mail and politely ask about the status. > > > Sven > ___ Right you are Sven! I was thinking of xsane too, being able to call it from Gimp. There should be no problem with Sane and Gimp then, only XSane. I haven't heard anything more out of the plugin since you mentioned your patches here, so I'm not sure if the author has made the fix or not. So "sime", does your scanning work with Gimp 1.2.x & MDK 9.x or not? If so, then all you need is the new plugin for 2.0, when the author makes the necessary fixes! Patrick -- --- KMail v1.6 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] mdk sane + 2.0
On Sunday 15 February 2004 06:52 am, sime wrote: > I installed the appropriate stuff to do scanning with mdk with the > stock 1.2.5 (mdk 9.2) Gimp. > > What do i need to change so that SANE can work with 2.0, or do i need > it install a SANE for 2.0 > > (sane newbie) > > -sime > > ___ The Sane plugin for Gimp 2.0 has not been updated yet, but should be by the final release. I do believe that Sven or somebody did revise it themselves, but to keep conflicts down with the original maintainer, did not include it with the new Gimp. I'll let them comment on it's availability. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.6 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp2.0pre
On Tuesday 13 January 2004 05:47 am, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > "Fabio S." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > It seems that compiling a brand new gimp is no simple matter at > > all: following all dependencies is really a hard matter! > > Almost all distributions that I know of have all the GIMP > dependencies nicely packaged. Since GNOME2 has basically the same > dependencies as GIMP2, gimp2 installs out of the box on a lot of > computers. > > If you have problems to follow the dependencies (shouldn't your > package manager do this for you?) I suggest you read the file > INSTALL where we try to give you the necessary hints. > > > Would it be possible to provide, together with the sources, also a > > static rpm (or tar.gz, if you prefer), which could install > > everywhere? I guess that it would be quite big, but maybe one can > > add a warning "This is a static version: it is BAD. Use it only if > > you can't manage otherwise!" > > Feel free to build such a static version. We, the GIMP developers, do > not provide any binary versions whatsoever. We lack the time and the > resources to build and maintain them. [...] > Sven > ___ Fabio, Let me step in and add to Sven's explanations. Fabio, even if a static version existed, it would still not work with your older system. If you have managed to keep 9.0 as it was installed, without updating components, you would still not be able to run this nice new GTK+ program called The Gimp! At some point in any program's life, it has to move on, get away from the old for the betterment of the program. As a user of Linux, you should understand that better than user's of other OS's! You don't have to update, you can run what you have for years, that's the beauty of Linux, but if having newer & better is a thing you prefer, then you need a newer & better base to use it. As Sven said, most all new distros are equipped to compile Gimp 2.x and if you want to see it run, either view it on someone else's computer or update yours to handle the compile, simple as that. No insult intended, just pointing out a fact. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.94 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Opinions on a scanner
On Monday 29 December 2003 03:42 pm, Daniel Carrera wrote: > Hi all, > > I just bought a scanner. It was at a good price (since they were > trying to get rid of Christmas stock). I was hoping someone could > help me figure out if it's a good scanner or not. I use GIMP for > amateur photo editing, and I want to get an idea of what I can expect > to do with this scanner plus GIMP. > > > This is an HP "scanjet" 4500c. I paid $50 CAN for it (~$30 USD) > including a warranty (from a reputable retailer). > > The box says that the scan resolution goes up to 2,400 dpi, but I > don't know if that's optical (real) resolution, or interpolated > resolution. And the user manual doesn't say. > > Does anyone know anything about this scanner? > > > Thanks a lot. > > Cheers, === Daniel, I am going to guess you didn't get the provided manual, etc with your scanner, since it was such a bargain. If that is the case, then you can go to HP's site and pick up a manual in PDF form. You should also be able to view the specs on the unit. If you did get the manual, then the specs are there about the dpi. The 4500 should give you pretty good results, although certainly not professional. The best flatbed scanners I have used, have been the Epson Photo scanners. Overall, I think you'll be happy with the unit. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.4 --- SuSE Linux Pro v9.0 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Multiple copies to printer
On Friday 07 November 2003 02:13 pm, Jonathan Bartlett wrote: > If it's a PDF file, why not just print through lpr? > > lpr -#50 target.pdf > > On Fri, 7 Nov 2003, Joao S. O. Bueno wrote: > > Save it in another format, and open in staroffice instead,. > > > > Sorry, there is as bug filed about this in the GIMP, but there > > seens to be no developer with the time to revamp the printing > > dialog/system as of now. > > > > :-( [...] --- Or, if you are in KDE, how about kprinter? Just call kprinter target.pdf, which should open the kprinter window allowing several options to choose from. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.4 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Testing 1.3.20 (SOLVED)
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 07:03 pm, BandiPat wrote: > On Tuesday 09 September 2003 06:23 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: > > Hi, > > > > BandiPat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > The new Gimp compiled fine today and installed. Upon trying to > > > run it though, it got to a load point and just died. I ran it > > > from the shell to check for more messages and found it doing a > > > Segmentation fault > > > > See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121752 > > > > Updating fontconfig to version 2.2 should fix the problem for like > > it fixed it for everyone else who reported this problem so far. > > > > > > Sven > > ___ > > Sven, > Not sure if that is possible though without upsetting something else. > These are just a few of the conflicts I get when trying to install > fontconfig files. > > file /etc/fonts/fonts.conf from install of fontconfig-2.2.0-14 > conflicts with file from package xf86tools-0.1-537 > file /etc/fonts/fonts.dtd from install of fontconfig-2.2.0-14 > conflicts with file from package XFree86-4.3.0-15 > - > > I haven't tried to force it to see if anything bad happens, but > obviously XFree86 is something that is needed to do X graphics, > right? I'll go with your expertise on this as I know fontconfig will > be used a lot for such things as Gimp. > > Patrick === Ok, Sven, That did in fact fix things. I was getting those above conflicts while trying to install fontconfig and fontconf-devel, but using another source installs them without conflicts and Gimp 1.3.20 runs happily now. Thanks for the heads up on the bug, I should learn to check there too, but I thought you guys might know first. Thanks again, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.3-3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Testing 1.3.20
On Tuesday 09 September 2003 06:23 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > BandiPat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > The new Gimp compiled fine today and installed. Upon trying to run > > it though, it got to a load point and just died. I ran it from the > > shell to check for more messages and found it doing a Segmentation > > fault > > See http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=121752 > > Updating fontconfig to version 2.2 should fix the problem for like it > fixed it for everyone else who reported this problem so far. > > > Sven > ___ Sven, Not sure if that is possible though without upsetting something else. These are just a few of the conflicts I get when trying to install fontconfig files. file /etc/fonts/fonts.conf from install of fontconfig-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package xf86tools-0.1-537 file /etc/fonts/fonts.dtd from install of fontconfig-2.2.0-14 conflicts with file from package XFree86-4.3.0-15 - I haven't tried to force it to see if anything bad happens, but obviously XFree86 is something that is needed to do X graphics, right? I'll go with your expertise on this as I know fontconfig will be used a lot for such things as Gimp. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.3-3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Testing 1.3.20
Hi all, The new Gimp compiled fine today and installed. Upon trying to run it though, it got to a load point and just died. I ran it from the shell to check for more messages and found it doing a Segmentation fault This is a development version of the GIMP Debug messages may appear here. Testing CPU features... mmx : yes 3dnow : yes mmxext : yes sse : yes sse2: no gimp_composite: use=yes, verbose=no +mmx +sse +3dnow gimp: fatal error: Segmentation fault gimp (pid:8324): [E]xit, [H]alt, show [S]tack trace or [P]roceed: So I then ask it to Stack trace, which gave me this: #0 0x404b5010 in g_on_error_stack_trace () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #1 0x0001 in ?? () #2 0x404b4f8d in g_on_error_query () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0 #3 0x0807f132 in gimp_eek (reason=0x81f3720 "fatal error", #4 0x0807f083 in gimp_fatal_error (fmt=0x85af338 "Segmentation fault") #5 #6 0x4052482a in FcTestDestroy () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 #7 0x405175dd in FcSubstDestroy () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 #8 0x40517659 in FcConfigDestroy () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 #9 0x4051783c in FcConfigSetCurrent () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 #10 0x081c4f21 in gimp_fonts_load (gimp=0x40532674) at gimpfonts.c:98 #11 0x081c4d90 in gimp_fonts_init (gimp=0x82c3ac0) at gimpfonts.c:55 #12 0x081467f0 in gimp_restore (gimp=0x82c3ac0, #13 0x0807dd9d in app_init (gimp_argc=0, gimp_argv=0xb3c8, #14 0x0807e4c8 in main (argc=1, argv=0xb3c4) at main.c:380 #15 0x4059e8ae in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6 Not sure from the info given above that it's a font problem or X problem, but I'm guessing font loading due to the many references to fonts. Guess I'll go back to 1.3.19 for a while. What are others results? One thing I might mention too, is the recent installation of a new graphics card. ATI Radeon 9200 installed and using the ATI drivers (fglrx). I don't think that has any bearings on this problem as the 1.3.19 works fine. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.3-3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 1.3.19
On Thursday 28 August 2003 12:35 pm, David Neary wrote: > John Culleton wrote: > > Two questions > > 1. Will Xsane work with this release? > > It will if someone updates the plug-in and tests it (hint, hint). > > Honestly, not having a scanner I don't know - perhaps it does > work already? [...] > Cheers, > Dave. >== Gimp 1.3.x has been linking up with my scanner ok so far. It builds itself to use IScan for the Epson scanners. It doesn't bring the image directly into Gimp, but does allow you to acquire an image and load it afterwards, by opening IScan from within the program. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.3-2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Errors compiling
On Wednesday 27 August 2003 09:41 pm, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi, > > BandiPat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Seems the new Gimp doesn't like my new gcc 3.3.1 or it really needs > > gtk2 2.2.3 to compile, not sure which. Any clues from the last bit > > of the make before it quit? > > Seems to be a problem with your compiler not liking the MMX code. > You should be able to work around this problem by passing > --disable-mmx to configure. However please file a bug-report for this > problem and include the output from make that you posted here. > > > Sven Ok, Thanks Sven, that did the trick! Gimp compiled find with that option in the ./configure. Don't remember now, but I think I forgot a dash too. No, no, I remember I copied and pasted from your message, so I could blame you if something went horribly wrong. ;o) Thanks for the help and the great program. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.3-2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Errors compiling
Seems the new Gimp doesn't like my new gcc 3.3.1 or it really needs gtk2 2.2.3 to compile, not sure which. Any clues from the last bit of the make before it quit? gcc -g -O2 -Wall -o .libs/gimp-1.3 app_procs.o main.o batch.o errors.o libgimp_glue.o -Wl,--export-dynamic -Wl,--export-dynamic -Wl,--export-dynamic config/libappconfig.a gui/libappgui.a display/libappdisplay.a tools/libapptools.a widgets/libappwidgets.a core/libappcore.a pdb/libapppdb.a paint/libapppaint.a xcf/libappxcf.a text/libapptext.a vectors/libappvectors.a file/libappfile.a plug-in/libappplug-in.a paint-funcs/libapppaint-funcs.a base/libappbase.a composite/libappcomposite.a ../libgimpcolor/.libs/libgimpcolor-1.3.so ../libgimpmath/.libs/libgimpmath-1.3.so ../libgimpbase/.libs/libgimpbase-1.3.so ../libgimpmodule/.libs/libgimpmodule-1.3.so /tracerb/gimp/gimp-1.3.19/libgimpbase/.libs/libgimpbase-1.3.so ../libgimpwidgets/.libs/libgimpwidgets-1.3.so /tracerb/gimp/gimp-1.3.19/libgimpcolor/.libs/libgimpcolor-1.3.so /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so /usr/lib/libatk-1.0.so /usr/lib/libgdk_pixbuf-2.0.so /usr/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.so /usr/lib/libpangox-1.0.so /usr/lib/libart_lgpl_2.so -lm /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so /usr/lib/libpango-1.0.so /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so /usr/lib/libgmodule-2.0.so -ldl /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lfontconfig /usr/lib/libfreetype.so -Wl,--rpath -Wl,/usr/local/lib composite/libappcomposite.a(gimp-composite-mmx.o)(.text+0x941): In function `gimp_composite_dodge_rgba8_rgba8_rgba8_mmx': /tracerb/gimp/gimp-1.3.19/app/composite/gimp-composite-mmx.c:526: undefined reference to `rgba8_w256' composite/libappcomposite.a(gimp-composite-mmx.o)(.text+0x9b1):/tracerb/gimp/gimp-1.3.19/app/composite/gimp-composite-mmx.c:526: undefined reference to `rgba8_w256' composite/libappcomposite.a(gimp-composite-mmx.o)(.text+0xa84):/tracerb/gimp/gimp-1.3.19/app/composite/gimp-composite-mmx.c:565: undefined reference to `rgba8_w256' composite/libappcomposite.a(gimp-composite-mmx.o)(.text+0xaf4):/tracerb/gimp/gimp-1.3.19/app/composite/gimp-composite-mmx.c:565: undefined reference to `rgba8_w256' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [gimp-1.3] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/tracerb/gimp/gimp-1.3.19/app' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/tracerb/gimp/gimp-1.3.19/app' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/tracerb/gimp/gimp-1.3.19' make: *** [all] Error 2 = Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.3-2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Compiling 1.3 or CVS
On Wednesday 13 August 2003 11:31 am, Olle Viksten wrote: > > > > = > > > > Just a thought Olle, but did you do the ./configure and make as > > user or as root? Of course, the only part to be done as root is > > the make install part, but could it be possible you were root in > > the shell for part of it and didn't realize it? > > > > Again, just a thought as I am not familar enough with those errors > > to offer anything else at this time. > > I tried your solution and it didn't work. > > I'm running Suse 8.2 and I'm using apt-get to update my installed > rpms. If I try to install the gimp1.3.17 that's available at > usr.local.org it insists that I have to remove sane and xsane. Thus > making it impossible for me to use my scanner. So the binary update > is out at the moment. > > I've never had any problem compiling and usin the unstable versions > of gimp before. And I've been using Gimp for ages. > > Olle Ok, Olle, as you can see, I run SuSE 8.2 as well and did not experience any problems compiling and installing. I have never used usr.local.org's binaries for Gimp, although I have used some others he has. I stay away from apt-get with the problems and potential problems it presents. I don't remember having a problem with sane on the first build of Gimp 1.3.x though. I have rpm files as well, if you would like to try it. It is installed so that it doesn't interfere with your 1.2.x install. We will need either a location for me to upload too or a direct transfer to you, as the rpm is quite large. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Compiling 1.3 or CVS
On Tuesday 12 August 2003 10:06 am, Olle Viksten wrote: > I've been trying now for three days to get 1.3 to work. When I > compile the latest source it seems to work fine. But when I run the > gimp-1.3 it just exits with the message: > > The program 'gimp-1.3' received an X Window System error. > This probably reflects a bug in the program. > The error was 'BadLength (poly request too large or internal Xlib > length erro'. > (Details: serial 46 error_code 16 request_code 154 minor_code 20) > (Note to programmers: normally, X errors are reported > asynchronously; that is, you will receive the error a while after > causing it. To debug your program, run it with the --sync command > line option to change this behavior. You can then get a meaningful > backtrace from your debugger if you break on the gdk_x_error() > function.) > > With a lot of tweeking I managed to compile the CVS version and got > the same result. > > Can anybody help? > > Olle = Just a thought Olle, but did you do the ./configure and make as user or as root? Of course, the only part to be done as root is the make install part, but could it be possible you were root in the shell for part of it and didn't realize it? Again, just a thought as I am not familar enough with those errors to offer anything else at this time. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.3 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
[Gimp-user] Grokking
Gimp gurus, I am curious as to how close the old "Grokking the GIMP" tutorial/manual is in working with the new 1.3.x version. I realize many things have changed since that was written, but really shouldn't be too much of a problem to adjust some of the instructions? At least I don't think it would. That's why I am asking you gurus that have done the manual before. Also, will there be a new one for the 2.0 version soon to be released or will there be or is there now a manual or tutorial for the new one yet? I haven't done much with the Gimp earlier, but become more interested as the 2.0 nears completetion. The 1.3.17 looks very nice and is performing very well, so I think it may be time to get into a tutorial of some sort to learn more. Thanks, Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Clone tool and others.
On Thursday 10 July 2003 10:13 am, Mogens Jæger wrote: > Hello > > I have been upgrading my Linux to a Suse 8.2, and the Gimp version > they are delivering is 4.2. Now my clone toole do not work any more. > I have then downloaded the newest 4.2.5 compiled it - and it tells > me, that the perl-PDL is not working, but it is not used any more so > remove it??? > When I try to install the perl-PDL from my Suse dist. I get a lot of > dependencies missings, and they are not delivered with the dist. > Where do I wrong/what is missing in my system to make the tool work - > I really miss it! > > Please help > Mogens Jæger == Morgens, It may be that all it needs is the -devel files to finish compiling. If you have 8.2 Pro, install all your Gnome2 files along with all the -devel files and the compile should go well. The Gimp supplied on the SuSE discs is 1.2.3, not 4.2 as you mentioned. I believe that might be the version of gimp printers, don't remember now. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Running Gimp through a rlogin
begin text On Monday 16 June 2003 18:00, Gebhart, Mark A wrote: > Hi, > I am trying to use gimp to take a screenshot of the entire screen. > The machine which I am trying to capture from does not have gimp > installed; however, I can do a rlogin to a machine on the network > that does have gimp. It freezes on my everytime I try to take the > screenshot. Has anyone had luck doing a screenshot over a remote > login? > Thanks in advance for any insight, > Mark == Mark, Not sure what you are running, but if it is Linux, you might try "ksnapshot" from your KDE screen. It's a bit simpler and you can set it to snapshot the window your pointer is in at the time. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP-1.2.5 Compile Fails
On Sunday 15 June 2003 06:12, A Guy Called Tyketto wrote: > On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 01:12:51AM -0700, Tom Williams wrote: > > Jeff Trefftzs wrote: > > > /usr/include/limits.h:-6358: internal error: Segmentation fault > > > Please submit a full bug report, > > > with preprocessed source if appropriate. > > > > > > Any ideas what might cause this? I'm on RH9, with a previously > > > installed Gimp-1.2.3. Is it my system (not impossible) or is > > > this a real bug? > > > > This looks like a compiler bug as I was able to build gimp-1.2.5 on > > Slackware 8 with a custom 2.4.20 kernel, gcc-3.3, glibc-2.3.2, and > > glib/gtk+-1.2.10. > > > > Can you possibly upgrade to gcc-3.3 (sources at > > ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gcc) and see what happens? > > > > Peace... > > Hate to throw a 'me too' in here, but gimp-1.2.5 compiles > cleanly (both patched and full source) on my Slackware 9.0 box, > gcc-3.2.2, glibc-2.3.1, gtk+-1.2.10. From the error that you posted, > it sounds like it's a glibc error that you're getting. Check which > version of glibc you're using, and let us know. > > BL. === Jeff, Also check to see if you have all the development files installed too. Usually that is the problem with most compiles and if you are running the downloaded version of RH, they don't always include all the devel files you need. They have what now 3 or 5 ISO images for download? If you only got the first 3, you probably need the other 2 as well. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] ANNOUNCE: GIMP 1.3.15
On Tuesday 10 June 2003 11:11, Sven Neumann wrote: > Hi GIMPers, > > there's a new development snapshot of The GIMP for you to play > with. Grab a copy from > > ftp://ftp.gimp.org/pub/gimp/v1.3/v1.3.15/ > > or from one of the mirrors listed at http://gimp.org/download.html. Thanks Sven, Got it! Love it! Sometimes you wonder how much better Gimp can get, but the developers keep finding ways to improve it! Folks, if you haven't given it a look yet, please do, it will be worth your time to compile it. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp vs MosfetPaint
On Saturday 07 June 2003 12:14, Tom Williams wrote: > Has anyone tried "MosfetPaint": > > http://www.mosfet.org/mosfetpaint/status/index.html > > If so, how do you think it compares with the Gimp? The author > acknowledges that the Gimp isn't a _paint_ app, like he's apparently > developing. > > I was just curious as to your thoughts on MosfetPaint. :) > > Peace... > > Tom If Mosfet doesn't follow thru with this program anymore than he did PixiePlus, there won't be much use to giving it a try either. He seems to have moods in his programming and given the right execuse, may get his ball and just go home leaving everyone wondering and waiting. It would certainly be nice to have a simple paint program, kinda like DeluxePaint was on the Amiga, to use in Linux also. Really surprised we haven't seen more out of Krayon either, it was looking very nice. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Gimp Red Eye Plugin
On Thursday 05 June 2003 17:46, Wayne Maeda wrote: > Has anyone tried this plug-in yet? Couldn't figure out how to use it > even with the instructions. > > http://pclinuxonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=6870 > > Wayne === Wayne, I had the same problem. I installed and followed all the instructions from the site, but the plugin did not appear at all in either 1.2 or 1.3! 1.3 didn't even have a "misc" selection in the filters. I then installed the plugins in the main directories of Gimp with the same result. No redeye filter available to either version. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
Re: [Gimp-user] Installing gimp-print after upgrade to 1.2.4?
On Friday 23 May 2003 02:12, Carl-Johan Sveningsson included these bytes: > Of course I did, or rather, I decided to upgrade gimp-print from > source when gimp complained about not finding it or being a too old > version, I don't remember which. (it was gimp-print-4.2.5 I tried to > compile) >- Ok, from your earlier mail it sounded as if because the notice mentioned compiling gimp print too, you just naturally assumed it had to be done as well. As only an almost 2 year newbie in Linux, I tend to think of things as a newbie still. ;o) Sounds like you may have a bit more experience and checked the things you needed too, before starting. === > Yes, I've understood that now, and I probably should in advance too - > but did I understand it correctly that the gimp-prints shipped with > distributions are too complex to compile on your own, and if you want > for example, gv to work under redhat, you will need the gimp-print > rpm anyway? As I understood it, gimp-print readme discouraged from > attempts to compile it for ghostscript functionality. > > Still I'm wondering, what would have been the correct way of action? > Informing gimp of the precense of gimp-print from rpm, and having it > compile in the first place? > > /CJ Ok, therein lies your problem, you are using Redhat! :o) Only joking, but it sounds like an older version at least. Might have been a good idea to update that first then try to compile the Gimp. I understand all too well about starting a compile and getting errors because you missed a -devel package to install. Little things like that tend to help you learn though. I have gotten to the point I just try to install all the -devel files now though, then you are less likely to have problems later. Patrick -- --- KMail v1.5.2 --- SuSE Linux Pro v8.2 --- Registered Linux User #225206 On any other day, that might seem strange... ___ Gimp-user mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.xcf.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user
