Re: [Gimp-user] Transforming selections

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Berniek

Before I could be of much help, I'd need to know exactly what kind of 
transformations you want to do. For example, select a particular image 
(to which you might provide a link) and describe exactly what you'd like 
changed.

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[Gimp-user] Before I make a feature request....

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Friends,

When I use the "save as" file option, in the "Save Image" dialog box, 
the leftmost pane, under "Places" shows at the top, a section containing 
"Recently used", then the directories and hardware information, then at 
the bottom, if they exist, any bookmarks.

Now as it happens, I have a fairly complex file structure, and I make 
extensive use of bookmarks, but my machine has a device which reads 
multiple forms of media most of which I have no use for, so the "Places" 
pane has en extensive list of devices I never use.

What I'd like to do is to propose a reordering of this pane to the 
developers, so that either defined bookmarks would appear higher on the 
list, or that media readers would only show on the list if they hold media.

But before I make the request on the developer's list, I thought I'd 
first query this group to see whether anyone else would find it useful, 
or alternatively, whether the request has been made, and there are sound 
reasons why it cannot be implemented.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Changing a Text Layer

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Rhino wrote:

> What am I doing wrong? How do I access the layers that I created before
> the current layer?

If you want to make changes to an existing text layer, in the layer 
dialog, make the layer containing the text you want to change the active 
layer, and then click on any bit of the text in the layer. Note though, 
that every text window is an independant layer, and if you've applied 
nearly any other modification to the layer, even only merging it with 
another text layer, it is no longer a text layer, and you can't modify 
the text with the text editor. As long as each text element is an 
individual text layer, and has not been modified, except for the text 
attributes, you can edit the text in the layer.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Layers

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Bob,

YOu don't mention what version of GIMP you are running, but in 2.6.10, 
to access the layers menu I think you are looking for, try looking under

Windows > Dockable dialogs > layers.

My installation also included a default group of dialogs, under a menu 
heading

"Layers, paths, channels, undo".

ns

Bob Meetin wrote:
> I am running Ubuntu Linux 10.04.  On my older linux pc GIMP included a menu 
> option I think to access Layers, might have been Dialog -->  Layers, I don't 
> remember.  This version of GIMP has Layer -->  New Layer, but it's not 
> immediately obvious in looking through all the menubar options where to get 
> to a Layers dialog where I can move layers, rename them, etc.  Advice please?
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Re: [Gimp-user] My annual inquiry.

[Noel Stoutenburg]

John Culleton wrote:

> Just isntalled 2.6.11. I note that some people have installed 2.7.2.
> Is there a summary somewhere of the new features available with 2.7.2?

One thing to bear in mind: 2.6.11 is a stable release; 2.7.2 is a 
developer's snapshot, and is presumably less stable than 2.6.11

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Re: [Gimp-user] opening binary flat files

[Noel Stoutenburg]

mintakax wrote:

> Sorry mistype-- the rev is 2.2.13 ... is this an old rev ?


Yes. Latest version is 2.6.11

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Re: [Gimp-user] Colour picker

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Jeremy Nell wrote:

> What is the reason for the colour picker not being able to pick colours
> on layers outside of the currently active layer?

I'm not on the design team, so what follows is pure speculation on my 
part, but it would seem to me that good interface design would be to 
have all tools work as closely to the same way as possible. Thus, if one 
cannot paint, draw, fill, or rotate, &c. on any but the active layer, 
one would assume that the color picker would also work only on the 
active layer.

But if you're going to pick colors off of some other layer than the 
active one, one would have to specify which layer one is picking the 
color from, as otherwise the tool would not know which color to select, 
that is, there might be content in more than one layer. So one would 
have to specify which layer to select from in any case, which means that 
in many instances, even if one could choose from a layer that is not 
active, it would be necessary to specify exactly which layer, and in 
this case, it is probably not any more effort to temporarily make the 
layer containing the desired color the active layer, and then switch back.

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Re: [Gimp-user] warp by points

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Peter Keller wrote:
> What I'd like to be able to do is something like georeferencing images
> in a GIS.  That is, having a base image I refer to, create a series of
> points on the base and another image of a different scale that
> correspond to the same places, and the new image will be adjusted to
> match.  Is there a way to do this with GIMP?

Here's how I'd do it:

1) Start with the base image in GIMP.

2) Add a new transparent layer to hold the reference points, but do not 
merge the reference points into the base image.

3) Add the new image as a new layer.

4) Use the Free selection tool to select points which match the 
reference points on the layer added in step 2.

5) Cut the selection, and paste it into a new layer.

6) Subdivide the selection in the new layer into quadrangles.

7) Select each quadrangle in layer 6, cut it, and create a new layer.

8) Use the perspective tool to adjust the layer of each quadrangle so 
that the points at the corner match the corresponding reference point in 
the layer 2.

9) Merge each the layer of each quadrangle into [a copy of] the base image.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Just Getting Started

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Noel Stoutenburg wrote:

> Akkana Peck's book, /Beginning Gimp - From Novice to Professional/,
 > published by APress

<http://www.apress.com/book/view/1430210702> Available as a dead-tree 
edition, or e-book.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Just Getting Started

[Noel Stoutenburg]

sweetievee wrote:

> I'm just getting started with GIMP 2.6 and I have no idea what I'm doing. 
> I've tried doing an internet search for tutorials but I'm having trouble 
> finding ones specific to my needs and ones that are based on the version of 
> GIMP that I'm using. I tried clicking the tutorial tab on this website but it 
> only shows me the upgrades that GIMP made to the 2.6 version. I need some 
> sort of new user/layman tutorial. Does anyone know where I can get this?
>
> I've done airbrushing and recently tried to paste transparent words as a 
> layer. However, when I want to move a layer I previously pasted GIMP won't 
> let me select another layer. How do I do this? I've searched over the GIMP 
> tabs and can't figure it out. Please help!
>

While it's not free, what made the program much more useful
for me was getting a copy of List member Akkana Peck's book, /Beginning 
Gimp - From Novice to Professional/, published by APress. About USD 50, 
but if you want to learn GIMP, it's hard to think of a better way to 
spend the money.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Copying Problem

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Oops.

Where I wrote:

> It seems to me that I saw behavior like this when I was working with a
> layer which had multiple layers,...

I meant to write,

 > It seems to me that I saw behavior like this when I was working with
 > an image which had multiple layers,...


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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP Copying Problem

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Dan-net wrote:

> I'm using the rectangular selection tool to select an area of a layer to 
> copy. However when I try and paste the copied area it just pastes the thing I 
> copied last.
>
> Basically it seems that it's either not copying the new selection correctly 
> or it's stuck pasting the old image from the clipboard.
>
> Anyone have any idea what I could be doing wrong?
>

It seems to me that I saw behavior like this when I was working with a 
layer which had multiple layers, and the layer which was active was not 
the layer that was visible, and there was no content in the part of the 
layer that was active which was selected.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Am I stupid or What?

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Nick C. wrote:

> why do I have to get help every time I try to do
> something in this program? It seems to me that it is one of the most
> unfriendly and unintuitive command layouts I've ever encountered.

My history is similar to yours, except that I've got more experience 
with GIMP than you claim. I, too, found the UI to be complex, and 
difficult to use and understand. What made the program much more useful 
for me was getting a copy of Akkana Peck's book, Beginning Gimp / From 
Novice to Professional, published by APress. About USD 50, but if you're 
serious about learning GIMP, it's hard to think of a better way to spend 
the money.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Combine two images

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Jim Hall wrote:


> ... Best analogy is:
> take 2 or 3 screenshots of an area of a city with google maps (map, not
> satellite view), put them together to make a single, larger one.
>
> I have looked at the manual, but since I don't know what this procedure
> is called (or even if it exists), I don't know what to look for. Same
> for Google.
>
> Hints of any kind appreciated.

OK. Here's how I'd do this. First, create the three screenshots, and 
save them to disk. Since it may be helpful to overlap the screenshots by 
a small amount, if you really want three stitched together, you may want 
to create four overlapping images.


Next, from the File menu, create a New image, and set the appropriate 
size parameter(s)--length, width, or both--to the something larger than 
the desired final size. In the event you want a 400 pixel wide final 
result, you might want to use 450, or 500 pixels.

Open the first screenshot you created in the first step above, and 
select all. Cut the image to the clipboard, and paste it into the file 
you created in step 2 as a layer. Move the layer to the appropriate 
place in the final image. Adjusting the transparency of the layer can 
make it easier to align the new layer with the original image.

For each of the remaining screenshots, open them as you did the first 
one in step 2, cut the contents to the clipboard, and paste them into 
the new image as a new layer. Move each new layer to the appropriate 
place in the image.

You can merge the layers after you get the various layers into the 
proper place, or you can wait and merge all of the layers at the same time.

When all of the layers are merged together to make the composite image, 
use the appropriate selection tool (rectangle, ellipse, &c), to select 
the part of the image you want as the final result, and crop to 
selection. Depending of the file format you want for the final result, 
you may want to flatten the image before saving the final file.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Crop mystery? I'm gonna sound like an idiot

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Jim:

Note that I am on the current version, and may not ever have used 
2.2.13. However, in the current version, there are two "crop to 
selection" choices, one in the Image menu, and one in the Layer menu. 
The one in the image menu acts like you were expected; the image is 
trimmed to the size of the selection. The one in the layer menu acts 
just as you describe now, that is, the image around the selection is 
removed, and you are left with a transparent background. Sounds to me 
like you chose the wrong "crop to selection".

There at least two ways to correct your problem: you can select the 
desired area of the image, and crop to selection from the image menu; 
you can change the canvas size using the canvas size option in the image 
menu (Note: you may have to adjust the offset). There may be others, as 
well.

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Re: [Gimp-user] question

[Noel Stoutenburg]

David,


Since my interpretation of what you wrote

> I have a picture jps file. I would like to make a circle and
> then copy it and then paste it at various places onthe picture. What do
> I have to do to accomplish this goal.

is a bit different from what Saul answered, here's my answer:

1) Open the ~.jpg file you wish to modify.

2) In the layers dialog, create a new layer by clicking on the icon at 
the far left of the bottom of the layers dialog window. Set the size of 
the new layer a bit larger than the circle you want (so, if you want 
your circle to have a radius of 150 pixels, for example, set the size of 
the new layer at 325 x 325 pixels), and fill it with transparency.

3) Make the new layer the active layer by clicking on it in the layers 
dialog.

4) In the toolbox, select the ellipse (circle) tool, and use the ellipse 
tool to select a region on the new layer.

5) Click the "edit" menu at the top of the image, to open the edit menu, 
and from that menu select (about 1/3 of the way from the bottom) "stroke 
selection". For this puprose, I'd probably choose to use the option 
"stroke with a paint tool".

6) Save the image as an ~.xcf file. Saving the image as an ~.xcf file 
maintains the separate layers.

Now, move the circle to a point you want to emphasize on the image, and 
export the image to a ~.jpg file; then move the circle to the next 
point, and export the image. If you need to have more than one area 
designated at a time, you  can duplicate the layer containing the circle 
as many times as needed, and move various layers containing a circle to 
various points on the image.

Hope this helps.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Smoothing inked lines?

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Marc Carson wrote:
> I've been scanning inks into GIMP, then moving them over to Inkscape for
> tracing to make the lines smoother. Is there a way to do this in GIMP
> alone? I don't mean vector tracing, just getting rid of the smaller
> abnormalities or fuzziness around my inked lines. I already scan at 600 dpi.

I expect there are; what have you tried? One of the first that comes to 
my mind is the unsharp mask (found in 2.6 under Filters > enhance?

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Re: [Gimp-user] What do you use for lettering? How do ya use them?

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Greg A. wrote:

> I'm missing something??  I can view but can't figure out how to use???

View where, in the Text tool options, in the fonts folder of your 
computer, or on the web?

I did not see in any of your posts what platform you are using; I am on 
WIN XP, and besides all fonts installed locally in GIMP, I have access 
to all the fonts in the Fonts folder of the OS.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Need a bit of help, 2 layer, need to edit

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Greg A. wrote:

> The picture is semi-transparent, just what I
> want. But the picture has a small part I need to either cut, clear, or somehow
> get rid of. All I can manage to do is Free Select and draw around what I want
> to cut but when I cut the image actually gets more bold and clear.

Sounds to me like you are only applying the selection to one layer. Make 
your selection, and perform your cut; then, in the layer dialog, select 
successive layers without moving the selection, and cut the same part 
out of each layer.

Alternatively, if the entire image is as you want it to be, and you have 
no need for maintaining the separate layers, merge the layers together, 
and then make your cut.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Branko Vukelic wrote:

> Select the singer layer in layers palette, and press Shift+T
> (transform). You'll be able to scale it either by typing in the
> dimensions or using the handles.

Sorry, I don't think "transform" will change the size; what you need to 
do, instead, is to select the layer you want to change, and from the 
layers menu, select "scale layer".

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Greg A. wrote:

> I think I found opacity in the toolbar but I
> change it and there's no difference.

Opacity is not in the toolbar; it's in the layers dialog, accessible by 
the keyboard shortcut CTRL+L, or by selecting the "layers" item in the 
through the windows "Dockable dialogs" menu item in the menu bar of an 
image, or an empty composition window.

If you can manage to  manipulate layer visibility, opacity is the slider 
above that. In Chapter 14 of the on-line documentation (at 
, 
figure 14.1 shows where the "opacity" slider is located; the label is 
third from the top, below "layers" and "Mode".

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Re: [Gimp-user] Overlaying One Photo Over Another

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Greg A. wrote:

While I concur with what Chris wrote, I don't see where he mentioned 
that the transparency setting controlled by the slider in the layers 
dialog box labeled "opacity". Had I responded first, my answer would 
have been the same, but the sentence

> Delete/fade/edit/whatever you need to on the top layer.

would have said

"in the image as the layer, adjust the opacity slider to the desired 
value; if you need more intensity in the overlaid image, you can adjust 
the opacity of the background, or add additional copies of the overlayed 
image."

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Friends

The reason behind part of what I wrote:

> At the same time, I save the log file as
> 00n.txt. I close the file (and often close GIMP),


Partly this is habit from my early years of personal computing, when 
software I chose to use sometimes had the habit of getting more error 
prone the longer it was used. I found with various packages, most no 
longer around, that if I periodically closed down the software, and 
allowed it to reset itself, that I had fewer abnormal ends. This is not 
so true with GIMP, and other modern packages, but I still find that I'm 
much more likely to have a serious problem with GIMP when I've worked on 
35 or 40 images during a work session, than when I've worked with 4 or 5.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help recovering a bad .xcf file

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Jade:

Just for what it might be worth, here's my ordinary work method.

When I decide to start a major project, I give it a name, and use that 
name for a directory / folder. Then I create a text file, "Log.txt" 
using my favorite text editor. I next create a subdirectory "Start" into 
which I copy any material from external sources; if I would have to 
spend much time searching for some item I used, it would get stored in 
this folder. Information I might want to keep track of about files in 
the "start" folder, for example, the name of the source, and the path at 
the time I found the image, would be listed in the log.txt file.

When I start work, I keep progress notes in the log file, for example

 >  Started with my image; adjusted color balance to ...
 >
 >  Added image2.png as a layer to the image, and converted it to use as 
 >  a mask.

At major break points, for example, if I decide to retrieve something 
from the kitchen, or if someone comes to the door, if it's been a while 
since I saved my work, or most importantly, if I reach a point where I'm 
not sure what to do next, I save the working image as 00n.xcf, where n 
is the next sequential number. At the same time, I save the log file as 
00n.txt. I close the file (and often close GIMP), reopen the files 
(00n.xcf and 00n.txt), and immediately save the files wioth an 
incremented name so that subsequent work does not overwrite the previous 
save.

This sounds like a lot of work,  but I think it has actually saved me a 
lot of time, in the number of times I decided a ways down one path, that 
I should have done it the other way. It's a whole lot easier in this 
case to save version 010, and reload version 006, and explore the 
results of taking the other path. And the reason for saving version 010, 
is that sometimes I only think I would have liked the other path.

Finally, I regularly save the main folder in multiple places on 
different mediums. For example, on two different physical hard drives, 
or on a physical hard drive and thumb drive. I can't think of a 
significant file of which I don't have at least two copies.

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[Gimp-user] Changing Text tool defaults

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Friends,

The current default values in the text tool for size of the type is 18.0 
pixels. I use a different size (12.0 points) so much that I'd like to 
make this the default value, but I cannot find out where to do so. Is it 
possible? What do I change? How do I find it?

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Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! ERROR!

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Marie,

Some relevant questions:

Where did you get the 2.6.8 package you installed? Did you use the 
Windows installer, or did you try to build your own WIN XP version from 
source? If you attempted to build from source, it looks like you might 
have an incorrect version of one of the supporting packages.

Are you running 32 or 64 bit WIN XP?


Meantime, if it were me, I'd

1) unistall GIMP, and back up data on your system;

2) visit the MS website, and upgrade your WIN XP from SP2 to SP3;

3) download a fresh copy of the WIN 2.6.8 installer by following the 
links on the download page on the GIMP website.

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Re: [Gimp-user] HELP! FAST!

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Anna wrote:


> I was just finishing a drawing and then I pressed the "save" button and saved
> it. Right after that I turned of my computer *Gimp said that the drawing was
> saved btw* But when I turned it on again and open Gimp, then try to open the
> drawing Gimp tells me that the file is broken, in fact so broken that it can't
> open it!
>
> Help me please I've been drawing on it for like 3 whole days! And it's really
> important that I recover it! Is it anyway for me to save it? Please help me!

My best guess at this point is that GIMP gave you the message that the 
file was saved, because GIMP was all through with it, but that the 
Operating system was not finished writing the file to the disk. When you 
shut off the power, nothing further got written, and you have a 
corrupted file image on the disk.

If you happen to have made incremental back-ups (that is, saving your 
work periodically, under different names--like myfile1.xcf, myfile2.xcf, 
&c--like every 20 minutes or so, this would be a time when they would be 
quite useful, as you could simply go back to the last back up. 
Otherwise, if you happen to be skilled with low level file editing and 
the details of the ~.xcf format, you might be able to open the image in 
a file editor, and recover some of the information in the file, but 
since I follow the incremental back-up method religiously, I've never 
had to do that.

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Re: [Gimp-user] A bunch of questions

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Adam wrote:
> Hey folks!
>
> I've got a small mess of questions, and I do not mind being redirected to
> older threads. :)
>
> Here goes:
>
> If I have a bunch of text layers, how do I reselect them to move them and/or
> edit their content without moving backwards in the history?

This will only work if you haven't merged the text dialog into another 
layer, even another text layer: in the layers dialog, make the layer 
with the bit of text you want to edit the active layer, and click on the 
text to open the text dialog. Note that in a layer dialog, only the text 
is in the layer, so if you are using a font with a large size, you might 
have to click exactly on a character of the text.

>
> Also, I have a smudge brush effect currently behind a text layer. The brush
> effect was a long time before the text layer. I need to remove the brush
> effect. How do I do so without going backwards in the history, thus
> eliminating the text (and any other previous work on the project after the
> smudge tool was used)?

Activate the layers dialog, select the layer with the brush effect, and 
delete it. Of course, if there is other content in the layer that 
contains the brush effect you want to eliminate, that will be deleted, too.


> Is there any way to save projects "in progress" to continue editing later,
> with the history intact?

I know that saving an image as an ~.xcf file will preserve the layers. 
I've never tried to save a file with an intact history, so I may be 
wrong, but I'm not sure you can save a file with the history intact. 
I've never tried to do this, because I've never needed to, since my 
standard workflow method is that when I work on a highly complex image, 
where I anticipate that I might want to have access to the history, I 
create this history by incremental back-ups; that is, after I have layer 
1 the way I want it, I save the work, then when I get layer 2 the way I 
want it, I make second a back-up with a different name, and when I get 
layer 3 the way I want it, I make a backup with a name distinct from the 
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Re: [Gimp-user] Make a trofe-man

[Noel Stoutenburg]

SuperGimp wrote:
> Hello.
>
> I was googeling today and then i suddenly came over this cool image.
>
> http://www.varna.no/NyWeb/pokal.jpg
>
> And I've always wondered how I can make a figure like that.
>
> Now I've got Gimp, and think it should be possible, but I don't know how.

The image you provided looks more to me like a render of a 3D figure, 
such as one might produce with Blender, rather than an image one might 
produce with GIMP.

>
> So if anybody know a tutorial or maybe can tell me how I can do it, I would
> be so happy!

See 


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Re: [Gimp-user] add fonts to gimp

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Programmer In Training wrote, about adding fonts to GIMP:


> On Windows, I don't know off the top of my head, if you are running
> Windows, perhaps someone else with access to a Windows box will be able
> to tell you what you should find there.

Don't need to do anything special; the Windows implementation of GIMP 
seems to be set to use any font in the fonts folder.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Hep Me! Something Happened!

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Erinne wrote:
> Hi.
> This is what happened:
> I was using GIMP to do some art and stuff, then I accidentally clicked the
> "X" (exit) button of the box that has gradients, layers, undo history,
> channels paths, etc. When I tried to make some art a while ago the box still
> isn't there.
> Please Help Me!

Assuming you were using GIMP 2.6.x, IN the image window, select 
"Windows" in the menu bar, and in the roll down menu, select "Recently 
closed docks", and click on the one you want to reopen.

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Re: [Gimp-user] can't enter text or use tools like smudge blur

[Noel Stoutenburg]

jim j. wrote:

> ..  It's powerful and potentially useful tool, but without
> effective, timely, interactive help, it's not going to be very useful except
> for expert programmers with lots of time on their hands.

Well, I know this is an inherently wrong statement, because I am not an 
expert programmer, I don't have a lot of time on my hands, and I use 
GIMP quite successfully for image manipulation, both manipulating 
photographs, and in other drawing tasks.


> Without [a good search engine help tool and live support] or
> a really active user community, it's not very useful.

Well, I'll concede that the help tool in Windows GIMP is not functioning 
as it is apparently intended to work, and I'll concede further that the 
on-line documentation is out of date, but the documentation is there, 
even if you have to search a bit for it.   Further, as far as a "really 
active user community", there is one, and it works pretty well. I saw 
your request for help, but due to insufficient information from you on 
exactly what the problem was, I had to take care of other issues first. 
GIMP is a sufficiently complex tool, that a request for help needs to 
contain some level of detail. If I were to ask for help for an issue you 
such as you raised, at minimum I'd provide the platform (Windows, MAC, 
or Linux] and version or distribution, the version of GIMP you are 
using, a link to an image which is giving me problems, and step by step 
what I'm doing, and what I expect to see happen, but is not. My vision 
is not what it used to be, and it's a bit hard to see your monitor from 
my workstation.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Printing

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Dick Smith wrote:


> Is it possible to print to custom sizes using Gimp?  I keep having
> failures when I try to print to a non-standard print size.  Specifically
> trying to create greeting cards printed to a 7x10 inch format.
> Everything seems ok until I send the print job to my HP Photosmart C5180.
>
> The only way I have found around it so far is to save the image and then
> import it into Open Office and print from there, where there are no
> problems.
>
> Thoughts?

For starters, what version of GIMP? What platform (WIN, MAC, Linux)? 
What version? Are your drivers up to date? What are you using to print 
from GIMP? What settings are you using in the printer driver, and in the 
interface to the printer driver?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Beginner: Selected tool has no effect

[Noel Stoutenburg]

ChrisBrewster wrote:

> I've already done a couple of things with Gimp that made me think I was
> getting it, but now I need to use some brush tools such as Smudge. So I click
> the Smudge icon, put the cursor on the image, press the mouse key and drag,
> and it doesn't do anything. In other image editors I've used, at that point
> the smudge function would work. I'm  having this problem with a couple of
> other Gimp tools. What am I missing? Thanks.

Can't answer the question about what you're missing, but the smudge tool 
works within a layer (even when the image is only a single layer. Make 
sure that there is content in the layer in which you are trying to smudge.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Somewhere I what wrote:

In case my post was not clear enough, I print black and white line 
drawings and photos from within GIMP 2.6.8 to my printer, a Ricoh Aficio 
610, directly through Ricoh network drivers running an OS of Win 98 PRO SP3.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

[Noel Stoutenburg]

jon s.:


I, too, am using Windows XP (though not on a Dell), and upgraded to Gimp 
2.6.8 after I posted my response. Printer is a Ricoh Aficio 610, 
connected as a network printer through a router, printing directly using 
the Windows network drivers supplied by Ricoh for the printer, and it 
works exactly as I expect with black and white line drawings and 
photographs.

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Re: [Gimp-user] printing

[Noel Stoutenburg]

jon s.:

The information you included is insufficient for me to be of much help.


> I am running windows xp on a nice dell optiplex.  I believe the os is up to
> date.  Just upgrade to ..6.8.  Gimp works fine, except that I cannot print!  I
> open a line drawing, do file, print, and nothing happens.  There must be some
> setup or plugin I am missing.  The fix must be easy, but I am stumped.  I
> would appreciate some help.


In particular, one needs to know what printer you are using, and in what 
mode. Are your printer drivers up to date? Do you get any error 
messages? I don't know what browser you use, but most browsers will 
handle certain image formats natively; can you print one of those? what 
happens if you save your line drawing in one of the formats that your 
preferred browser handles natively; will it print that way?

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Re: [Gimp-user] how to invert greyscale values only... leaving colors alone

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Rich Evans wrote:


> I have an RGB image that is basically a black background with many colorful 
> objects and white text.  --- I'd like to invert the image so that it is a 
> white background with black text but a simple invert inverts the colors in 
> all the colored objects as well. Is there a technique or tool to invert any 
> part of the image that is only a shade of grey? i.e. invert pixeils with a 
> saturation of ~0 (if that is how you say it). I could imagine a filter that 
> does a simple RGB invert for any pixel whose calculated RGB saturation value 
> is below a set threshold. Does this type of tool/script exist?


Here's how I'd do this:

First, I'd make a copy of the original image.

Second, working with the copy, I'd add a new layer, filled with white, 
and move that layer to the bottom of the layer stack.

Third, I'd make a copy of the original image, and move the copy to the 
top of the stack, if it doesn't happen to be there at the beginning. If 
necessary, I'd switch the color paletes so that black is the active 
color. Then I'd use the facility to select by color tool to select the 
white areas, making certain that there were not highlights of some of 
the "many colorful objects" which got included as well. I'd then paint 
or bucket fill as necessary to convert the formerly white areas to black.

Fourth, returning to the original layer, I'd select all of the areas 
which are black, and remove them.

Finally, merge the layers together, and you should have achieved the 
effect you wish.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Sampling Toned Images

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Bryan wrote:


> Well you're pretty close in assuming it's the wrong file type. It's not a GIF
> but rather it's a png.


But if you open the sample image you want to use, but which is not 
showing up properly, and from the main menu, select images and from the 
choices of the image menu select mode, in what mode--indexed, RGB, or 
grayscale--is the ~.png sample file? If it is NOT RGB, change the type 
so that it is RGB, and see what happens.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Creating texture images?

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Juhana Sadeharju wrote:
> How to convert photos taken with a cheap Canon camera to
> what can be used as textures in games?

It would depend upon the game, but unless some proprietary process is
being used, any  software package which would convert the images taken
with the camera (probably ~.jpg with or without capability of  a "raw"
image) to the image needed in the game should do the tirck.


> Do we know enough about how a particular camera works?
>   

As long as the image processing software can read the images in the
format from the Canon camera, and write the format needed by the game,
why would how the camera works make a difference?

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[Gimp-user] WHat are my options, here

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Friends,

I'm trying to figure the best way to use GIMP blend colors in a 
particular application.

I have a topographical map, and I want to apply a color gradient which 
follows the contour lines of the map, and blends from a darker hue at 
the lower contour to a lighter hue at the next higher contour. The 
contour lines are not parallel. In the final image, I want a uniform 
darker hue right next to the contour line, and a uniform ligher hue at 
the higher one. A further complication is that the contours do not have 
a uniform direction. In one part of the image the gradient from 10 units 
to 20 units will be right to left, in another part of the image going 
from 10 units to 20 will go from left to right, and in still others, the 
contour representing 20 units will be a smaller irregular shape inside 
the larger, different, but still irregular shape representing an 
elevation of 10 units.

I've thought of a number of ways to do this manually, for example, 
divide the map into different layers at the contour lines, and using the 
airbrush tool to overlay the colors; another is to leave the different 
contour levels in one layer, and use the smudge tool to blend across the 
contours. But are there filters of plug-ins which might automate at 
least part of the process?

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Re: [Gimp-user] Measure tool (feature proposition)

[Noel Stoutenburg]

If I'd read the posts in this thread in a different order, or at least 
read all of the posts before making a response, instead of writing
> BTW, I'm not sure I've ever had the occasion to need this in GIMP, but 
> if it is not there, the ability to determine the total length of a 
> selected path in pixels might also be a nice addition. Maybe this would 
> be a good Summer of Code 2010 project, though.
>   

I'd have instead asked for the name of Chris Mohler's plug-in, and where 
to find it in GIMP, or if it's not included in the main distribution, 
where to find it and how to install it.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Measure tool (feature proposition)

[Noel Stoutenburg]

I agree with Adam that it might be a valuable addition to be able to 
select an area of GIMP, and determine the size of  area.

As to scaling issues, as when dealing with a map, the method I use for 
this is to open an instance of my favorite spreadsheet program in a 
small (about 3 or 4 dozen cells--6 x 6 or 6 x 8--window, and use that to 
do any necessary math calculations. When confronted with Adam's problem 
of scaling from a distance on a map measured in pixels to an actual 
distance, I enter the necessary formula in spreadsheet cell, and when I 
enter a number of pixels, and the spreadsheet cell shows the actual 
distance.

  from  for example, if I have an image of some object that I know to be 
perpendicular, but is not parallel to the plain of the image, and I want 
to change the perspective so the image appears parallel, AND so that the 
length of the image is unchanged when it the perspective is altered.

BTW, I'm not sure I've ever had the occasion to need this in GIMP, but 
if it is not there, the ability to determine the total length of a 
selected path in pixels might also be a nice addition. Maybe this would 
be a good Summer of Code 2010 project, though.

ns

Adam Majewski wrote:
>  Hi there,
>
>  i sometimes need to measure distances on photo.
>  i do so using not only gimp but i need also calculator to do it.
>
>  The problem is that the measure tool doesn't have scale parameter.
>  It would be great if i can firstly measure scale and set distance
>  for it (ex 20px = 38m) and then measure other things that i need,
>  where the result will be shown not only in px but also in meters
>  (or other units ex. mile, foot, inch etc).
>
>  Easiest example is screenshot of google map, where you have scale
>  on bottom, and you would like to know the distance from A to B on
>  this scale.
>
>  Much further feature would be measure of areas, using also
>  feature of scale.
>  Simple areas like square, rectangle, or any of quadrilaterals,
>  triangle, oval, circle, ellipse etc...
>
>  This would be perfect, but i don't know to whom i should send this
>  proposition, so please forward it to right persons if they are not
>  reading this list.
>
>  Kind regards!
>
>
>  Pozdrawiam,
>  Adam.
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Re: [Gimp-user] not working

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Mary Dargis wrote:

> I have a new hp laptop running vista x64
>  i have installed and uninstalled gimp a few times and keep getting 
> the message that gimp has stopped working. In between installations i 
> have removed everything gimp as to start fresh. I tried running as 
> administrator, no luck. Can yo please help me. I have done all my work 
> on gimp and am very frustrated.
First question to ask is if whether or not you are using the installers 
for 32 or 64 bit Windows. I am running Gimp 2.6.6 for Windows on 64 bit 
XP SP3, without any difficulty, though it appears I may have intstalled 
using the 32 bit version.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Levels tool with Layers

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Carusoswi wrote:
> Ok, but, when you merge, do you not lose the ability to go back and fix
> something that you might decide needs adjusting?
Yes, which is why you don't merge until. you're absolutely sure that 
everything you're merging is to your satisfaction. And if there are a 
couple of layers which you're not quite certain about yet, one can merge 
the layers below those, and still reduce the file size. I haven't 
explored this yet, and may be wrong, but it might just be that if there 
is one small area that needs a fix, that one can make a layer just big 
enough to manage the fix, rather than making the layer the full size of 
the image. One thing that might reduce the size of the file a bit, is 
that if there is only a small bit of something that needs fixing, to make

> I would thing that layers in an xcf file would only represent
> references to adjustments and the underlying file 
I think a better visualization of layers is to consider them like an 
overlay on a projector, and that the layer containing the change is 
independent of the layer to which the change relates, until the two are 
merged together.
> I'm just a-wonderin' why the xcf files grow so large.
>   
I suspect that becuase you have a number of layers all the same size as 
the image.

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Re: [Gimp-user] GIMP in MS Windows: Very weird Z-order problem

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Ray Simard wrote:
> (The following has only been observed with GIMP 2.6 in MS Windows.  I
> don't know if it's true for Linux too; I just haven't had time to
> upgrade Linux GIMP from 2.4 yet.)
>
> I don't recall this happening with GIMP 2.4.  The problem, with the
> exceptions afterward:
>
> Except as noted later, a GIMP window which is wholly or partially
> obscured by other windows (GIMP or non-GIMP, makes no difference) is
> made active (e.g., ALT-TABbbing to it, clicking its title bar, clicking
> the GIMP button on the taskbar, newly created by GIMP itself or  opened
> from the context menu of Windows Explorer or an application that has the
> ability), it becomes active properly, however the windows in front of it
> stay in front of it.  Clicking on the title bar or taskbar repeatedly
> does not bring it forward.
>   
..
> Anybody know anything about this?

Known issue.  Solution is to open the preferences menu and select the 
windows management menu item (Edit > Preferences > Window Management) 
and change the items under "Window Manager hints" so that both read 
"normal window."

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.6.X manual

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Ken:

Upon further reflection it occurs to me that this may be an issue with 
the Windows installer for GIMP, which is not officially supported. The 
person who thoughtfully provides the windows installer, does not seem to 
include the help files in the installer, which would help resolve the issue.

My next working plan is to use a mirror utility to copy the on-line help 
to my local machine.

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.6.X manual

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Ken:

> So I guess I don't have the manual in the right place.
>   
I'd guess that you probably DO have the manual in the right place. For 
some reason, the interface between GIMP and the help manual and Windows 
is broken in 2.6. In November, 2008, I reported the same issue on this 
list, was told it was a known issue, and was to be fixed in the "next 
release". As this was 2.6.2, my assumption at the time was that "next 
release" meant 2.6.3, but as we are now to 2.6.6, I'm guessing instead 
that "next release" actually means no earlier than 2.8.x

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Re: [Gimp-user] 2.6.X manual

[Noel Stoutenburg]

John Culleton wrote:
> There is an online version  of the 2.6 manual in html form. Is 
> there a way to download the whole shebang in one step or must I 
> download the individual files one at a time?
>   

There is an open source program, "Httrack" 
(cf.) which might be able to 
download the entire manual, though I cannot comment on how successfully 
it would accomplish the task.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Jernej Simončič wrote:
> GTK+ has it's own method of inputting Unicode codepoints - press
> Ctrl+Shift+U, then type the hex code. It would be nice if it supported the
> system way of Unicode hex input, too though.
>   

This way does work on my installation (GIMP 2.6.6; WIN XP SP3). So the
real issue here is that the documentation does not reflect the way the
system actually works on Windows.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Ernie Wright wrote:
> Note that in order for this to work, you need to (1) HOLD DOWN the Alt 
> key while entering the character code, and (2) enter the 0 digit at 
> the start of the code.
Thanks, Ernie. In my OP in the thread, I while I did not write that it 
was necessary to use the leading "0", the character designations I gave 
all had it. Even though when I hold down the "alt" key, and use the 
leading "0" to access a special character in my installation of WIN XP 
home SP3, I get the expected character in every other application, I 
never get the expected character in GIMP. (NB: I just discovered this 
behavior in GIMP 2.6.6; I don't know whether it is true in previous 
versions or not.)

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Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Leon Brooks wrote:

> Here on Mandriva Linux (KDE 4) I can use KCharSelect
> to choose the letter, then copy/paste that into GIMP's
> text tool. 

In Windows the parallel technique works, too. One can open the Windows 
application, "Character map", select a character, and copy it into the 
dialog. So, until this issue is finally resolved, I'll use the more 
appropriate of two work-arounds. If I need only a character or two, I'll 
use the "copy from charmap" method; if I need more, I'll prepare my text 
in a word processor which exports graphics, and import the graphics file 
exported from that into GIMP.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

[Noel Stoutenburg]

David Gowers wrote:
> Yes, this has never worked for me either (not only in GIMP, though --
> in almost every application)
>   
While I understand that every other application than GIMP is OT on this 
list, perhaps you could specify other applications in which it doesn't 
work. This suggests, that this is not, in fact, a GIMP bug, and might 
help to identify where the real problem is.

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[Gimp-user] Before I file a bug report

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Friends,

In my normal work, I make use of a significant number of special 
characters, e.g. "é", "©", "—" [Alt-0233, Alt-0169, and Alt-0151 
respectively]. Despite the statement in the online documentation 
(specifically on page , in 
the box under "Font" labeled "Note", reading "You can get special 
characters in the same way as you get them in other text editors: "Alt + 
number keypad in windows), on my system (WIN XP Home SP3; Gimp 2.6.6) 
when I enter the "Alt +" code for a special character, nothing happens, 
that is, the character does not appear, and the cursor does not advance.

Has anyone else run into this?

For me at the moment, this is an inconvenience, as I've a choice of a 
couple of applications in which I can enter a desired text, and export a 
graphic selection containing the necessary text, but at minimum we have 
here of an inconsistency between the documentation, and the application 
being documented.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Auto shutdown

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Mike E. wrote:
> I wanted to uninstall 2.6.6 and return to 2.6.5 but that version appears not 
> to
> be available any more.
>   

Are you sure? when I used my favorite search engine with the file name 
of the window's installer [ "gimp-2.6.5-i686-setup.exe" ] for GIMP 2.6.5 
as the search parameter, I found multiple sources from which the Windows 
installer for GIMP 2.6.5 can be downloaded. In addition, the source code 
for all GIMP versions is available through the GIMP website.


But you might also take a page from my "playbook": I save nearly every 
software upgrade I download. A habit, I suppose, going back to my first 
days of internet use, when I had slow dial-up service, informed by the 
fact that my first download to about three hours, and it took me 
multiple attempts to download the complete file. Somehow, after 
downloading, I botched the file, and trashed the downloaded installer 
after saving it; when I needed (for reasons I can't recall at this 
point) to re-install, I had to download again. Last time that happened.

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[Gimp-user] help with GIMP help

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Friends,

The problem: the Window GIMP installer does not seem to install GIMP 
help, and the windows (XP, SP2) GIMP help installer that can be 
installed easily on a local machine is not the current version. [NB: 
I've downloaded and successfully unpacked the latest version of the 
documentation, but have not managed as yet to successfully install it].

The proposed solution: use mirroring software to download the GIMP help 
documentation from on-line to local machine.

So the help: has anyone tried what I propose, and therefore might be 
able to comment on the likelihood of success, or for hurdles to 
overcome, or is there an easier way?

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Re: [Gimp-user] sharpening a black and white graphic

[Noel Stoutenburg]

CJ wrote:
>  an image of two musical staves with the bass and treble cleft symbols
> that is pixilated. This image will be made into a rubber stamp and needs to
> look professional.  or is there a better way to accomplish what I
> need?
 When I needed something similar, I downloaded a copy of the Bach 
Musicological font from the web (I actually downloaded from a different 
site, as I have had this for some years) 
. With GIMP, I'd use this with 
the text tool, set to display the characters to the size you need.

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[Gimp-user] One GIMP installation, two different appearances....

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Friends,

Running GIMP 2.6.4 under Windows XP, on a machine with two user 
partitions, both with access to the same installation of GIMP. Somehow 
just recently, running the installation of GIMP as one user, the GIMP 
toolbox, and the Layers-channels-paths-undo dialog boxes do not generate 
file buttons on the Toolbar, that is, when I launch GIMP I see a single 
button, even though the main GIMP window, the toolbox, and the dialog 
box all open on the desktop. When running as another user, when I launch 
GIMP, I still see the behavior I am accustomed to, that is, at launch, I 
see the main window, the toolbox, and the Layers - channels - pahts - 
undo dialog dock.

It seems most likely to me that somehow without realizing it, I managed 
to change a user preference somehow in the one user, but if the 
documentation shows where or how I managed to do this, I cannot find it, 
and I don't see anything obvious when I open the user preference dialog 
that seems to me to why the same copy if GIMP works differently in the 
two areas.

Since I hadn't yet done so, I upgraded my GIMP to 2.6.5, and see that 
the different appearances in the two users persisted despite the upgrade.

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Re: [Gimp-user] remove object from the photo

[Noel Stoutenburg]

ajtiM wrote:
> Hi!
>
> I have a photo with one big bloom and on the uper side of the photo and on 
> ther right side I have some leaves and bloms which I want to remove and 
> replace with the background of the photo.
> I did try with the clone tools and with the healing tool but it is no good. 
> Also copy part of the bacgrond and paste doesn't work.
>
> What is the best method for my case, please.

 From my POV, there is not enough information to answer the question, as 
you've not provided [a link to] the image in question, and in my 
experience, the "best method" is rather image specific (that is, what 
might be the best method for one image might not be the best method for 
another image, even though the two images might seem highly similar.)

May I recommend visiting your local library, and borrowing (through 
interlibrary loan if need be) a copy of one of the editions of Akkana 
Peck's book, /Beginning GIMP - From Novice to Professional/, which 
devotes considerable space to demonstrating various techniques for doing 
what you wish. If I interpret the headers of your email correctly, it 
seems to originate from the US state of Wisconsin, and there are a half 
dozen copies held by various libraries around the state.  I note that 
the website of the publisher, Apress, includes chapter 2 of the second 
edition ("Improving Digital photos" as a book extra on it's website 


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Re: [Gimp-user] Photo printing

[Noel Stoutenburg]

A. M. wrote:
> OK, thanks.  
> I just wondered if the CD photos would have the right information - I read
> somewhere that the ppi. for photo printing should be about 200, the ppi. for
> my CD prints is 72. 
You might enquire of the place you take your film for processing whether 
you can specify the PPI of the processed images, in which case I would 
specify a ppi of 300 or more. If you cannot, and you have a scanner, you 
might be able to scan the negative on your scanner, and "develop" which 
would be basically changing to the color balance of the image and 
prepare the images at home.  I have had reasonably good luck scanning 
both positive and negative images made on 35 mm film in a variety of 
media on a flatbed scanner, and processing the film. I scan at 1200 dpi, 
and by printing at the same image 300 dpi, I increase the size of the 
printed image by 4 times.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Noel

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Rebecca:
> I know I can access the manual on line, but would rather not (see my 
> previous post to Doug).  I don't understand the workaround you 
> describe...  I really do not know that much, technically, about 
> computers.  But if you have them installed on your "local system" 
> (hard drive?) why would you need to access them on line?
I have the help files installed on my local machine, and since they are 
html format, and I use my web browser to view them as local files.  You 
don't say what browser you use, but if (as I suspect) you are using 
Windows XP, you have Internet Explorer built in. So what I recommend 
that you navigate to the folder in which the Gimp Help files are located 
(on my machine, the path in which they are installed is 
C:\Gimp-2.0\share\gimp\2.0\help\en\ ) and double-click on the file 
"index.html" at which point the help file should open in your browser.  
You can then set a bookmark in your browser, or create a shortcut to the 
index.html file in the help folder.

I know dial up is a pain, especially with files as large as the GIMP 
Windows installer, and the GIMP help files. You might check with your 
local library, or the library at school; they may have a higher speed 
connection so that you can use a thumb drive and download upgrades when 
you need them.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Need help with "Help"!!! -- Att.: Doug

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Rebecca,

when you wrote, in part
>  
> I am using Windows XL. 

I assume you meant Windows XP

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Re: [Gimp-user] Need help with "Help"!!!

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Rebecca,

I, too, asked about the same problem with the help files you did back in 
November 08, at which time I was told it was a known issue, and was 
expected to be fixed in the next release.

For the moment  I use the following work-around: I have the help files 
(which are in html) installed at a known point on my system, and I have 
my web browser set to open them as a file on the local machine. When I 
run into an issue which necessitates my consulting the helpd files, I 
open the help files in my browser.

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Re: [Gimp-user] replacing colors

[Noel Stoutenburg]

firestick wrote:
> In selecting areas by color (whether contiguous or not) I can set the
> threshold to get more or less colors similar to the exact color I click
> on.  I can then drag a color from the toolbar and drop it on the image
> and it will fill in those selected areas, and this is really cool
>
> Is there a way to make the color I fill those areas in with change in
> relation to the colors it's replacing?  For example, if I select a range
> of greenish colors, is there a way I can replace it with a range of
> blueish colors instead of just one particular blue?

Here's a different approach to getting the effect you want, based upon 
the proposition that it will take more (perhaps much more) time to get 
the effect you want by replacing the colors in the pixels you want to 
change with new ones, than it will by modifying the existing pixels,

1)  Open the image you wish to modify

2)  Select the areas of your image where you want to change the colors, 
and copy the selection, and paste it into a new layer filled with 
tranparency.

3) Open a new image filled with transparency, and copy the layer you 
made in step 2 above to this new image.

4)  Using the color balance and hue saturation dialogs, make the 
adjustments want to the colors in the image you created in item 3.

5)  Copy the entire modified image and paste it into a new, transparent 
layer in the original image.

6)  In the new layer in the original image, select the  background by 
color, and invert the selection.

7)  Leaving the selection intact, select the base image as the active 
layer; cut out the selection.

8)  Merge the layers together.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Second try at Re: select region inside a rectangle

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Noel Stoutenburg wrote:
> Adrian Dusa wrote:
>   
>> I'm a Gimp newbie, using it for a long time but at an amateur level.
>>
>> I have the following (hopefully simple) problem: given two rectangles 
>> with a common border, is there a way to select the region *inside* one 
>> rectangle (to fill it with another color), without affecting the 
>> contents of the other rectangle?
The steps I outlined work for your attached image of two white 
rectangles surrounded by black lines. Depending upon the details of the 
actual images with which you are working, you might be able to make it 
work with more or fewer steps, but the principle should still hold.

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[Gimp-user] Second try at Re: select region inside a rectangle

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Adrian Dusa wrote:
>
> I'm a Gimp newbie, using it for a long time but at an amateur level.
>
> I have the following (hopefully simple) problem: given two rectangles 
> with a common border, is there a way to select the region *inside* one 
> rectangle (to fill it with another color), without affecting the 
> contents of the other rectangle?
>
I left a couple steps out of the one I sent privately, but this one is, 
(I think) more elegant anyway.

1) Add an alpha channel to the image.

2) Select the border using the "select by color" tool.

3). Cut out the border, paste it into a new layer, and hide the new layer.

4). In the base layer, invert the selection, using Select > Invert.

5). Choose your color, and fill the desired rectangle.

6)  Unhide the new layer, and Merge the layers together.

7)  flatten image.

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Re: [Gimp-user] (no subject)

[Noel Stoutenburg]

mareesteph...@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
> I have recently downloaded the latest version of GIMP and am really 
> struggling trying to print. Every time I only seem to be able to print 
> a small fraction of the image. I've tried scaling the image but to 
> absolutely no avail. Can anyone help a complete beginner on this?
A certain amount of necessary information is lacking here, such as 
exactly what version of GIMP you have, what OS you are using it on, and 
what hardware (specifically, what printer) and software (specifically, 
printer driver) you are using. At first read, it sounds to me like maybe 
you need to specify a different resolution in your printer driver.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Help files not accessibile

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Florio wrote:
> Hi there. 
> I'm new to GIMP, but have already watched a number of tutorials on YouTube
> etc and it seems an excellent program.
> When I downloaded GIMP, I also downloaded the help file (single file in
> English), which I then installed. The problem is that when I press F1 for
> help, I get the following message:..
> I'd prefer to have direct access to the user manual rather than using the
> online one. Can someone please explain how to get the help file working? 
>   

I asked a similar question a few weeks ago, and was told it's a known 
issue in 2.6.x, and if I remember correctly, is to be addressed in an 
upcoming release. Meantime, since I know it installed on my system, and 
since I know it is an [set of] html files, I simply point my internet 
brower [I prefer Seamonkey, but the same technique should work with any 
browser] to the top level of the help files on my system, and bookmarked 
it. When I need to open the local help files, I simply open the browser, 
and click on the link.

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Re: [Gimp-user] Don't reinvent the wheel department....

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Friends:

Where I wrote:
> .. GIMP co-ordinates 726,110. ..
>   
I inadvertantly used co-ordinates from the wrong image; in the image

 )


the mid-gray tones that contain the useful information are the pixels 
around 635,134.

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[Gimp-user] Don't reinvent the wheel department....

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Friends:

A bit of help, if you would...

I had access to a microfilm of an old (~400 years) manuscript of music, 
from which I was able to make usable scans, which I am not in the 
process of reviewing. Some images (cf. 
)are quite easy to work 
with; others (cr. ) are 
bit more challenging. The challenging images generally have all the 
information in them I need, but that information is in pixels in a 
mid-gray tone surrounded by darker pixels, as the pixels in the vicinity 
of GIMP co-ordinates 726,110.

What I'd like to do is to use the "select by color" tool to select the 
pixels with the desired mid-gray values, and then use them as a mask. 
However, when I try to use select by color, it picks up the mid-gray 
pixels well enough, but picks up all the darker ones and some of the 
lighter ones as well. Is there a way to adjust the tool so that it 
selects just the mid-gray values that I want, or is there a better tool 
to use?

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[Gimp-user] Default starting tool

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Friends:
I know I can affect the starting tool by selecting the "Set input device 
settings on exit" button in "preferences / input devices" panel, but I'd 
really like to have the move tool as my starting tool, without having to 
remember to select it every time I shut down GIMP. Is there a setting 
somewhere that would let me do this?

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Re: [Gimp-user] can't save JPEG,EPS and PSD

[Noel Stoutenburg]

While part of the original poster's earlier post was answered, viz. that 
at this time it might be possible to export paths to EPS and PSD files, 
at this time the exporters are not coded to support this, unless there 
were answers in the earlier thread that I did not receive (I received a 
total of four answers to the original post), part of the original 
question--saving paths in JPEG files--was not answered. [And I don't 
have the knowledge to answer it.]


ns

Hi,

On Mon, 2008-11-24 at 13:29 +0700, surasak muchawech wrote:
  
 
We have used GIMP 2.6.2 on OSX 10.4. When we save the path in JPEG,

EPS and PSD file format and then we reopen them but there are no path
in Dialogs path. Please help me. How to fix this? Please advise.



You asked the very same question a week ago and got an answer already.
Please check the mailing-list archives in case you missed it.


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Re: [Gimp-user] Convert text to path

[Noel Stoutenburg]

community help wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm reading in the manual http://docs.gimp.org/en/ch07s05s05.html that I can 
> convert tet to path, but I cannot find or I don't know how to access the text 
> tools option "Create path from text button" they are talking about. What I am 
> doing is double clicking on the text layer on the layers window, maybe this 
> is wrong?
>   

You don't say what version of GIMP you are using, but the bar, "[Create] 
path from Text" is in the text toolbox, not the layers window. Note that 
in GIMP 2.6, the wording on the bar omits the word "Create".

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[Gimp-user] Help file issues

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Friends:

OK. Windows XP platform. GIMP 2.6.2 is installed, and help file (2.2.4) 
is installed. But when I start GIMP, and try to access local help, I get 
a message in the preferences warning me that "the user manual is not 
installed locally". Shut down GIMP, locate user manual at
GIMP-2.0\share\gimp\2.0\help\en.

Restart GIMP, still have message "the user manual is not installed 
locally".

Examined preferences, and don't see any place to point the GIMP help 
system to the appropriate folder. I know how to work around it, but I'm 
wondering if there is a configuration setting I'm missing that would 
point to the folder containing the GIMP local help files.

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[Gimp-user] Intro & 2.6.2 question

[Noel Stoutenburg]

Gimp user; subscriber to the GIMP newsgroup (comp.graphics.apps.gimp), 
whose ISP is dropping USENET support, hence subscribing here.

Using GIMP 2.6.2 on WIN XP, I find behavior that I didn't find before. 
If I have an image, a toolbox, and the layers dialog open at once, and 
move the toolbox and layers dialog open at once, the most recently 
selected item is on top of the previously selected item. However, if I 
move the image (and main toolbar) behind either one, the image is always 
behind the other two. I checked the bug reports, but don't see any 
reports of this behavior.

Is this a new configuration option I haven't found yet? Or is this a 
bug, that only affects me?

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