Re: [Gimp-user] Finding my post
flag your post in your e-mail client and look for responses. On 3/5/2018 10:55 AM, beachlady wrote: > Your system is very difficult to maneuver. How can I locate my posts to see > if > someone has replied? > ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Opperateing systems
On 03/05/18 18:36, Heepaw wrote: I was wondering why GIMP will not work on an Android OS? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.gimp.inkscape ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Image luminosity
On 03/06/18 15:46, WMusc wrote: Hi, I am brand new to GIMP and am trying to statistically match 2 picture sets on brightness, contrast, and luminosity for a psychology research study. I've done a ton of online searching and figured out how to find values for brightness and contrast. Using the histogram, I used the mean of the "Value" channel to determine each picture's brightness, and the standard deviation of the "RGB" channel to identify contrast. However, I am at a standstill for extracting values for each image's luminosity. Please let me know if you're aware of how I may go about this. I know spatial frequency can be used, but am unable to locate the value for each image in GIMP. Thanks! Will Something like: Color>Desaturate (luminosity) and check the average or median in the Histogram dialog. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Finding my post
On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 10:55 AM, beachlady wrote: > Your system is very difficult to maneuver. How can I locate my posts to > see if > someone has replied? > The forum is just an interface to the user list. From https://www.gimp.org/mail_lists.html I found the link to the mail list and then clicked on the link to the archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list/ You can skip the forum and just use email. carol ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Having trouble changing background color on my canvas?
>I'm using Gimp 2.18 on my Mac (High Sierra). I want to change the >background color on my canvas from white to #696969. I was trying to >follow the tutorial here -- >https://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Changing_Background_Color_1/ , but when >I go to "Filters", I don't see a "Colors" option within it. Mine has >"Repeat Color Exchange," "Re-Show Color Exchange," "Recently Used >", >"Reset All Filters," etc. But no "Colors" menu. > >Any guidance is appreciated, - Dave This is the problem when you pick up an old how-to dated "Text and images Copyright (C) 2002" Using Gimp 2.8.x (what is 2.18 ?) 1. Mentioned later in the tutorial but first check that the image is in RGB mode. Use menu Image -> Mode -> RGB 2. The menu to use is now Colours -> Colour to Alpha (step 1) and the default is white so you should not need to colour pick the background colour (step 2 and step 3) 3. Apply and that, it will set an alpha channel and all white becomes transparent (step 4). Note that there might be parts of the image that you want to remain white. 4. Make a new layer, fill with new background colour, move down (as step 5) rich: www.gimp-forum.net -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
Re: [Gimp-user] Question about fonts and XCF files
On Thu, 2018-02-22 at 18:55 -0800, Tom Williams wrote: > If I send her the XCF file, will the fonts be embedded in it, No. > such that she > won't > have to have the fonts actually installed on her system or will the > XCF > contain references to the font, requiring her to have them installed > on > her system? Yes, she will need the fonts. To avoid this, export as an image (e.g. JPEG or PNG). -- Liam Quin - web slave for https://www.fromoldbooks.org/ with fabulous vintage art and fascinating texts to read. Click here to have the slave beaten. ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Having trouble changing background color on my canvas?
I'm using Gimp 2.18 on my Mac (High Sierra). I want to change the background color on my canvas from white to #696969. I was trying to follow the tutorial here -- https://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Changing_Background_Color_1/ , but when I go to "Filters", I don't see a "Colors" option within it. Mine has "Repeat Color Exchange," "Re-Show Color Exchange," "Recently Used >", "Reset All Filters," etc. But no "Colors" menu. Any guidance is appreciated, - Dave -- laredotornado (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] GIMP transformation selection
>That reads like a mixture of operations. > >Drag and drop a text layer that has been transformed some way. Try and >edit brings up a message offering choices of reverting back to >original text in different forms. > >It is in here: >https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-image-text-management.html > >A new layer "floating selection" top of layer stack would result from >a copy-paste. You need to either anchor the layer or promote that to a >new layer in order to proceed > >https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-layer-anchor.html >Snags moving transformed text layers from one image to another. > >You only get the original untransformed text back, wrong size, wrong >position. Up to you to fix that. You can use a flattened scaled >version of the small image as a template. > >If the file comes from another Gimp in another machine, the font might >not exist on your installation. What happens then, Gimp will use the >default (usually 'sans') font. There are ways of finding the original >font using a plug-in. > >This forum is hard going. Just the first bit explanation on moving >transformed text needs several screenshots. Sorry but needs a quick >video how-to > >https://youtu.be/DN6cmvTR0aY 4 and a bit minutes check that and come >back with problems. > >rich: www.gimp-forum.net As usual you have great understanding of this issue too. I'll study these links to learn more, but I'm very glad i simply used undo or delete to get rid of that since it looks like I opened a can of worms. I've completed my CD label and panels and since I don't have that Transformation Selection in the labels view, it looks like I'm free from worrying about it. Thanks for all your great help, -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] layer mask apply in gimp 2.9.8
>As far as I know that is the way it is going to be. A couple of others >that require an 'enter' now, free-select tool, foreground select tool. > >rich: www.gimp-forum.net Thanks for the link, bookmarked and reading now. -- marcuszan (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] layer mask apply in gimp 2.9.8
>Hi Rich, > >You just saved my day, have been struggling with this for many hours. >The 'enter' did the trick. >Very much appreciated. >Is this the new way to achieve stuff or is this a temp solution in >this dev version ? > >Thanks. As far as I know that is the way it is going to be. A couple of others that require an 'enter' now, free-select tool, foreground select tool. rich: www.gimp-forum.net -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] layer mask apply in gimp 2.9.8
>Yeah, do not use 'apply layer mask' at least not straight away. Using >GEGL and on canvas display, there are several operations that need a >'enter' to fix them. > >Guessing something like this, black background, white **active** layer >mask, white-to-black radial gradient. Drawn in the canvas looks like >this. Layer mask will remain blank > >as this: https://i.imgur.com/dkElA36.jpg > >When satisfied hit the enter key to confirm the operation, that fixes >the gradient into the layer mask. > >as: https://i.imgur.com/z34maPW.jpg Hi Rich, You just saved my day, have been struggling with this for many hours. The 'enter' did the trick. Very much appreciated. Is this the new way to achieve stuff or is this a temp solution in this dev version ? Thanks. -- marcuszan (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Image luminosity
>Hi, > >I am brand new to GIMP and am trying to statistically match 2 picture >sets on brightness, contrast, and luminosity for a psychology research >study. I've done a ton of online searching and figured out how to find >values for brightness and contrast. Using the histogram, I used the >mean of the "Value" channel to determine each picture's brightness, >and the standard deviation of the "RGB" channel to identify contrast. > >However, I am at a standstill for extracting values for each image's >luminosity. Please let me know if you're aware of how I may go about >this. I know spatial frequency can be used, but am unable to locate >the value for each image in GIMP. > >Thanks! >Will You might get an answer here, or you might not. My advice, ask the same question on https://discuss.pixls.us/ lots of clever people there. -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] layer mask apply in gimp 2.9.8
>Hi, > >I have been looking at several tutorials to apply a gradient layer >mask to an image to make it fade to black/background. >On Gimp 2.8.* I can easily reproduce this. However, using the Gimp >2.9.8, when I click on apply layer mask, the fade/gradient disappears. >Can anyone tell me this is a bug or has this technique to be applied >differently in the new version of Gimp ? > >Thanks, >Marcus. Yeah, do not use 'apply layer mask' at least not straight away. Using GEGL and on canvas display, there are several operations that need a 'enter' to fix them. Guessing something like this, black background, white **active** layer mask, white-to-black radial gradient. Drawn in the canvas looks like this. Layer mask will remain blank as this: https://i.imgur.com/dkElA36.jpg When satisfied hit the enter key to confirm the operation, that fixes the gradient into the layer mask. as: https://i.imgur.com/z34maPW.jpg -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] layer mask apply in gimp 2.9.8
Hi, I have been looking at several tutorials to apply a gradient layer mask to an image to make it fade to black/background. On Gimp 2.8.* I can easily reproduce this. However, using the Gimp 2.9.8, when I click on apply layer mask, the fade/gradient disappears. Can anyone tell me this is a bug or has this technique to be applied differently in the new version of Gimp ? Thanks, Marcus. -- marcuszan (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Image luminosity
Hi, I am brand new to GIMP and am trying to statistically match 2 picture sets on brightness, contrast, and luminosity for a psychology research study. I've done a ton of online searching and figured out how to find values for brightness and contrast. Using the histogram, I used the mean of the "Value" channel to determine each picture's brightness, and the standard deviation of the "RGB" channel to identify contrast. However, I am at a standstill for extracting values for each image's luminosity. Please let me know if you're aware of how I may go about this. I know spatial frequency can be used, but am unable to locate the value for each image in GIMP. Thanks! Will -- WMusc (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] GIMP transformation selection
After editing a text layer that had been imported by dragging a layer from one project to another, i got a window that explained i was trying to edit something that was imported and if i did, i'd lose the edit. I had 3 choices - edit, discard changes, or cancel i think i chose cancel and then got a new layer at the top of the layer view called transformation selection. It seemed i couldn't select any other layers in the layers view after that i ended up using undo to go back to where i was before. Later it happened again and the undo history didn't go back far enough to get rid of it. I then selected transformation selection. And hit delete. I then deleted the color background layer that was causing this and redid that layer without importing this whole episode happened very fast so i may not be remembering everything correctly, so if any of this sounds familiar, maybe you can give me a clue what happened. My theory is it had something to do with me trying to import layers to my 300ppi project from my previous project that was 100ppi -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] UI is resetting every time I close GIMP
>Recently my GIMP UI has been resetting todefault each time I close it. >I don't close it often, but sometimes my computer likes to restart on >its own or it dies if Im not paying close enough attention. It has >done this to me a couple times in the past, but when I fixed the UI it >was fine again. This time, even though I have reset the UI to my >liking, it is still reverting to default when it is closed. I have >searched for solutions, but all I can find are people asking how to >reset their UI to default, not how to keep it from doing it on its >own. > >I am using GIMP 2.8.22 on an ASUS RoG laptop running Windows 10 home >edition. Have you checked in Edit -> Preferences to see the status of two settings 1. Window Positions. As you already do, set up Gimp the way you want it, single window mode, position of docks, the active dock, just the way you want it on a restart. In Edit -> Preferences -> Window management uncheck (if it is checked) Save Window Positions on Exit then click on Save Window Positions Now. OK that, shut Gimp down, restart and see it it makes any difference. 2. Tool Options If you want to, a similar procedure. Set up everything the way you want Gimp to start, font, font size, brush & size, finish of with the active tool you want. Untick Save on exit, click on Save Tool Options now, OK and restart. If that is not the problem, then something weird with your Windows installation. rich: www.gimp-forum.net Attachments: * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/833/original/preferences.jpg -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] GIMP transformation selection
>After editing a text layer that had been imported by dragging a layer >from one project to another, i got a window that explained i was >trying to edit something that was imported and if i did, i'd lose the >edit. I had 3 choices - edit, discard changes, or cancel > >i think i chose cancel and then got a new layer at the top of the >layer view called transformation selection. It seemed i couldn't >select any other layers in the layers view after that That reads like a mixture of operations. Drag and drop a text layer that has been transformed some way. Try and edit brings up a message offering choices of reverting back to original text in different forms. It is in here: https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-image-text-management.html A new layer "floating selection" top of layer stack would result from a copy-paste. You need to either anchor the layer or promote that to a new layer in order to proceed https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-layer-anchor.html >i ended up using undo to go back to where i was before. Later it >happened again and the undo history didn't go back far enough to get >rid of it. I then selected transformation selection. And hit delete. I >then deleted the color background layer that was causing this and >redid that layer without importing > >this whole episode happened very fast so i may not be remembering >everything correctly, so if any of this sounds familiar, maybe you can >give me a clue what happened. My theory is it had something to do with >me trying to import layers to my 300ppi project from my previous >project that was 100ppi Snags moving transformed text layers from one image to another. You only get the original untransformed text back, wrong size, wrong position. Up to you to fix that. You can use a flattened scaled version of the small image as a template. If the file comes from another Gimp in another machine, the font might not exist on your installation. What happens then, Gimp will use the default (usually 'sans') font. There are ways of finding the original font using a plug-in. This forum is hard going. Just the first bit explanation on moving transformed text needs several screenshots. Sorry but needs a quick video how-to https://youtu.be/DN6cmvTR0aY 4 and a bit minutes check that and come back with problems. rich: www.gimp-forum.net -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Opperateing systems
I was wondering why GIMP will not work on an Android OS? -- Heepaw (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] UI is resetting every time I close GIMP
Recently my GIMP UI has been resetting todefault each time I close it. I don't close it often, but sometimes my computer likes to restart on its own or it dies if Im not paying close enough attention. It has done this to me a couple times in the past, but when I fixed the UI it was fine again. This time, even though I have reset the UI to my liking, it is still reverting to default when it is closed. I have searched for solutions, but all I can find are people asking how to reset their UI to default, not how to keep it from doing it on its own. I am using GIMP 2.8.22 on an ASUS RoG laptop running Windows 10 home edition. -- Selarono (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Finding my post
Your system is very difficult to maneuver. How can I locate my posts to see if someone has replied? -- beachlady (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Trouble selecting and moving text
>Just the way Gimp handles layers, something to get used to. > >1. With the text tool active and in the active text layer, hold the >ctrl & alt keys down, click and drag the text layer. see screenshot 01 > >2. Generally moving any layer using the move tool. > >Gimp looks for the first solid pixel and moves the layer where it >finds it. You can see the active layer temporarily move if you click >on transparency in the layer you are working on. This can be very >useful, saving time actively moving between layers. > >Of course, lots of transparency in text layers, so with the move tool >active, enable Move-the active-layer in the tool options. Click and >drag the layer around. see screenshot 02 > >rich: www.gimp-forum.net Great info, Rich. I tried ti all and it works perfectly. You're right no quirk, just the way GIMP works. This is a treasure trove of good info for me. I was wondering why it was so quirky, now I understand the really great features GIMP has . Very clear explanation. The screenshots really help also. -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>Comedy of errors. Did you read the Users Guide that comes with the >templates? > >Attached in case anyone else uses DiskMakers, however the fact that >they will accept a RGB image is useful. If Diskmakers added >information on using Gimp to their site, what a help that would be. > >Hope your label comes out ok, I have an advantage, only one disk >required and I print at home. > >rich: www.gimp-forum.net Yes I read the Users Guide. I'll suggest that they add GIMP to their info. You've been super helpful. I'll let you know if I get baffled by anythign else. -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Trouble selecting and moving text
>I'm creating a CD panel + label design. I have a a color background >layer, I use the text tool to create a text layer, add the text. Then >since the text box with fonts is in the way of my view I open the move >tool. Many times I have trouble getting the move tool to select the >text and move it. It may select the background color or the whole >template guide underneath. I usually then look and see if the text >layer is selected over to the right. I try reselecting it. > >If none of that works i go to the Selection tool and hit select all, >select none and keep trying different combinations until I finally get >the text to move. I run into this problem all the time with different >panels I'm working with in this CD panel template. Some panels have a >picture along with the text and color background. > >Either I'm doing something wrong or there may be a quirk in GIMP and I >need the workaround. Or maybe I don't need the move tool if there is a >way of moving the text box with fonts is in the way of my view when >using the Text tool > >Thanks, Just the way Gimp handles layers, something to get used to. 1. With the text tool active and in the active text layer, hold the ctrl & alt keys down, click and drag the text layer. see screenshot 01 2. Generally moving any layer using the move tool. Gimp looks for the first solid pixel and moves the layer where it finds it. You can see the active layer temporarily move if you click on transparency in the layer you are working on. This can be very useful, saving time actively moving between layers. Of course, lots of transparency in text layers, so with the move tool active, enable Move-the active-layer in the tool options. Click and drag the layer around. see screenshot 02 rich: www.gimp-forum.net Attachments: * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/831/original/01-moveit.jpg * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/832/original/02-moveit.jpg -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] Trouble selecting and moving text
I'm creating a CD panel + label design. I have a a color background layer, I use the text tool to create a text layer, add the text. Then since the text box with fonts is in the way of my view I open the move tool. Many times I have trouble getting the move tool to select the text and move it. It may select the background color or the whole template guide underneath. I usually then look and see if the text layer is selected over to the right. I try reselecting it. If none of that works i go to the Selection tool and hit select all, select none and keep trying different combinations until I finally get the text to move. I run into this problem all the time with different panels I'm working with in this CD panel template. Some panels have a picture along with the text and color background. Either I'm doing something wrong or there may be a quirk in GIMP and I need the workaround. Or maybe I don't need the move tool if there is a way of moving the text box with fonts is in the way of my view when using the Text tool Thanks, -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>Thats sounds very helpful, I hope it turns out ok. > >Going back to your original question, how to hide the writing. > >I went back to the DiscMakers site and downloaded their complete >bundle of templates for the various applications they support. One of >them is a Photoshop template, A CMYK .psd file, so does not open in >Gimp. I do have tools to convert that to RGB and is attached. > >Nothing complicated with what is provided. Two layers, the outlines >and text, a transparent layer on top. A white bottom layer called >'Your Artwork'. So the answer is put your artwork between those >layers, follow the sizes given in the template. When finished turn the >visibility of the top layer off. > >There is also a 'UsersGuide_V1.pdf in the bundle which helps, it says > >..quote..Illustration C shows what the proof we send you will look >like > >So you will get to see what it looks like before ordering 1000's. It turns out they want the CD label background not the circle but the square the exact same size as the template. So my original question was a misconception I had. I can't color the template even though it was easy. I have to hide the template when uploading. Discmakers told me not to worry about the other templates but to only use the PDF template which opens fine in GIMP. Alex approved what I sent him, so it appears I don't need the PDF-X4. I asked him about that. To be safe I'll get them to mail us proofs before production, so I can really see how it'll turn out with no variables. -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>It turns out they want the CD label background not the circle but the >square the exact same size as the template. So my original question >was a misconception I had. I can't color the template even though it >was easy. I have to hide the template when uploading. > >Discmakers told me not to worry about the other templates but to only >use the PDF template which opens fine in GIMP. Alex approved what I >sent him, so it appears I don't need the PDF-X4. I asked him about >that. To be safe I'll get them to mail us proofs before production, so >I can really see how it'll turn out with no variables. Comedy of errors. Did you read the Users Guide that comes with the templates? Attached in case anyone else uses DiskMakers, however the fact that they will accept a RGB image is useful. If Diskmakers added information on using Gimp to their site, what a help that would be. Hope your label comes out ok, I have an advantage, only one disk required and I print at home. rich: www.gimp-forum.net Attachments: * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/830/original/_UD109_UsersGuide_v1.pdf -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>I have a good working relationship with DiscMakers and have used their >online templates on projects and asked Alex for some other >recommendations of programs that I could use to get more options. He >suggested the usual ones plus GIMP. I sent him an email asking about >the PDF/X-4, and will likely hear from him today on that. > >He said don't worry about the RGB they can do the conversion for me >for free. I did send him the PDF of the CD front cover, plus the >actual pic I started with, so he can check it with his graphic techs. >So thankfully I have some help on their end. > >I just didn't want to do too much more work before checking to see if >I'm on the right track and then find I have to redo everything a 3rd >time. The thing I was concerned about was on their tutorials saying >that a regular PDF can distort the image to fit on an 8.5x11 paper and >that the PDF-X4 doesn't do that. I hope that doesn't apply to this >situation. Thats sounds very helpful, I hope it turns out ok. Going back to your original question, how to hide the writing. I went back to the DiscMakers site and downloaded their complete bundle of templates for the various applications they support. One of them is a Photoshop template, A CMYK .psd file, so does not open in Gimp. I do have tools to convert that to RGB and is attached. Nothing complicated with what is provided. Two layers, the outlines and text, a transparent layer on top. A white bottom layer called 'Your Artwork'. So the answer is put your artwork between those layers, follow the sizes given in the template. When finished turn the visibility of the top layer off. There is also a 'UsersGuide_V1.pdf in the bundle which helps, it says ..quote..Illustration C shows what the proof we send you will look like So you will get to see what it looks like before ordering 1000's. Attachments: * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/829/original/UD109.xcfgz -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>PDF/X-4 permits factors like transparency, fonts embedded in the file. >What you get from Gimp is a flattened image, it is a single graphic in >a PDF wrapper. You will not have any transparency , embedded >fonts..etc. Discmakers will only use the circular area covering the >disc. > >What you do want is a CMYK PDF, so use that on-line site I mentioned >earlier. > >http://www.pdf2cmyk.com Send discmakers the resulting file and see if >they complain. Commercial printers are always whinging. > >If you look at discmakers web site, all the products used are >commercial, InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop, Corel Draw. These can >all produce a CMYK PDF from beginning to end. > >One thing to note with CMYK is some colours will look muted, typically >bright colours. The inks used for printing do not have the colour >range (gamut) of your over-bright computer RGB monitor. Do a search >for RGB versus CMYK. Consider that before ordering 1000's > >You can produce a CMYK PDF/-X4 on your computer using a freeware >application called Scribus, your Gimp graphic can be imported as say a >tif, but it is yet another steep learning curve. I have a good working relationship with DiscMakers and have used their online templates on projects and asked Alex for some other recommendations of programs that I could use to get more options. He suggested the usual ones plus GIMP. I sent him an email asking about the PDF/X-4, and will likely hear from him today on that. He said don't worry about the RGB they can do the conversion for me for free. I did send him the PDF of the CD front cover, plus the actual pic I started with, so he can check it with his graphic techs. So thankfully I have some help on their end. I just didn't want to do too much more work before checking to see if I'm on the right track and then find I have to redo everything a 3rd time. The thing I was concerned about was on their tutorials saying that a regular PDF can distort the image to fit on an 8.5x11 paper and that the PDF-X4 doesn't do that. I hope that doesn't apply to this situation. -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>DiscMakers said I should export as a PDF-X4, but I don't see that >option in export. When I exported as a PDF it gave an extension of >PNG, but I changed that to PDF. I left all the boxes unchecked in the >export dialog box. > >I opened the PDF file in Adobe Acrobat Reader and it looks very good, >but when I printed it it didn't look that good. Should I be concerned? >What about the PDF-X4 file? > >You've been such a great help - thank you very much. PDF/X-4 permits factors like transparency, fonts embedded in the file. What you get from Gimp is a flattened image, it is a single graphic in a PDF wrapper. You will not have any transparency , embedded fonts..etc. Discmakers will only use the circular area covering the disc. What you do want is a CMYK PDF, so use that on-line site I mentioned earlier. http://www.pdf2cmyk.com Send discmakers the resulting file and see if they complain. Commercial printers are always whinging. If you look at discmakers web site, all the products used are commercial, InDesign, Illustrator, Photoshop, Corel Draw. These can all produce a CMYK PDF from beginning to end. One thing to note with CMYK is some colours will look muted, typically bright colours. The inks used for printing do not have the colour range (gamut) of your over-bright computer RGB monitor. Do a search for RGB versus CMYK. Consider that before ordering 1000's You can produce a CMYK PDF/-X4 on your computer using a freeware application called Scribus, your Gimp graphic can be imported as say a tif, but it is yet another steep learning curve. -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>Sounds like you have it cracked. > >You will not lose any quality with the text layers, a solid / simple >coloured background layer will be ok, it is more complex images that >become fuzzy when scaled up. DiscMakers said I should export as a PDF-X4, but I don't see that option in export. When I exported as a PDF it gave an extension of PNG, but I changed that to PDF. I left all the boxes unchecked in the export dialog box. I opened the PDF file in Adobe Acrobat Reader and it looks very good, but when I printed it it didn't look that good. Should I be concerned? What about the PDF-X4 file? You've been such a great help - thank you very much. -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>I do have all my XCF files. I used tried this method: click-n-drag >the text layer, from one image up into >the tab of another. It works really well and you're right the text is >very very tiny. I had to increase the font size from the original 40 >to about 100. If not this should do fine and save some time. >I tried this with a color background and it did fine, I just needed to >scale the size back up and position it. So with this method am I >losing quality? > >Of course I know I'm starting from scratch with the 2 pics importing >them into the 300 ppi template, that's fine. Sounds like you have it cracked. You will not lose any quality with the text layers, a solid / simple coloured background layer will be ok, it is more complex images that become fuzzy when scaled up. -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>thanks for your excellent help. So is it ok for me to have the old >100ppi project open at the same time the 300ppi new imported template >is open and then just at least copy and paste the raw text over? If you have Gimp text layers, do not copy and paste. You will lose the text properties, what was a text layer becomes regular graphics. What you can do is click-n-drag the text layer, from one image up into the tab of another. That then becomes active, continue the drag down into the canvas area before releasing the mouse. Takes a little practice Another way is: Open the CD template @ 300 ppi. Then Open-as-Layers the previous work. Any text layers will still be there, too small, but easy to increase the font size (x3) all other layers can be deleted (or even resized if you think you can get away with the reduced quality). or If you have the text (raw?) as a text file, that can be copied and pasted into the Gimp text tool. If you have done what most beginners do and export flattened (png / jpg / pdf) images. Best plan is start again from scratch. Always **save** your work as Gimp xcf files, that saves all layers, guides, masks, etc Only when complete then **export** the image. rich: www.gimp-forum.net -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>If you have Gimp text layers, do not copy and paste. You will lose the >text properties, what was a text layer becomes regular graphics. > >What you can do is click-n-drag the text layer, from one image up into >the tab of another. That then becomes active, continue the drag down >into the canvas area before releasing the mouse. Takes a little >practice > >Another way is: Open the CD template @ 300 ppi. > >Then Open-as-Layers the previous work. Any text layers will still be >there, too small, but easy to increase the font size (x3) all other >layers can be deleted (or even resized if you think you can get away >with the reduced quality). > >or > >If you have the text (raw?) as a text file, that can be copied and >pasted into the Gimp text tool. > >If you have done what most beginners do and export flattened (png / >jpg / pdf) images. Best plan is start again from scratch. Always >**save** your work as Gimp xcf files, that saves all layers, guides, >masks, etc Only when complete then **export** the image. > >rich: www.gimp-forum.net I do have all my XCF files. I used tried this method: click-n-drag the text layer, from one image up into the tab of another. It works really well and you're right the text is very very tiny. I had to increase the font size from the original 40 to about 100. If not this should do fine and save some time. I tried this with a color background and it did fine, I just needed to scale the size back up and position it. So with this method am I losing quality? Of course I know I'm starting from scratch with the 2 pics importing them into the 300 ppi template, that's fine. -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>They are all going to be too small. Truthfully you need to start >again. > >If it is any consolation this is a very common beginner issue. >Starting work / importing images on a canvas that is way too small for >quality printing. The PDF default 100 ppi is something to look out for >in this instance. Default canvas 72 ppi is the other. You need to look >at the Image size in pixels rather than some stated size in inches/cm >Quality printing rule-of-thumb is 300 ppi although for large prints, >posters etc, smaller ppi values are used, the value depending on size >and distance of viewing. > >rich: www.gimp-forum.net thanks for your excellent help. So is it ok for me to have the old 100ppi project open at the same time the 300ppi new imported template is open and then just at least copy and paste the raw text over? -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>I see I'd need to delete the 2 pics and re-import them. But what about >the text and colors? Can I copy them over to the new template? Keeping >the same fonts, sizes, positioning, background color layers, scaling? They are all going to be too small. Truthfully you need to start again. If it is any consolation this is a very common beginner issue. Starting work / importing images on a canvas that is way too small for quality printing. The PDF default 100 ppi is something to look out for in this instance. Default canvas 72 ppi is the other. You need to look at the Image size in pixels rather than some stated size in inches/cm Quality printing rule-of-thumb is 300 ppi although for large prints, posters etc, smaller ppi values are used, the value depending on size and distance of viewing. rich: www.gimp-forum.net -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>The problem with scaling your artwork up: Image -> Scale image (set to >300%) is you will lose quality. Depends on the image if it is >acceptable. Any text is better re-done to the larger size wherever >possible. > >rich: www.gimp-forum.net I see I'd need to delete the 2 pics and re-import them. But what about the text and colors? Can I copy them over to the new template? Keeping the same fonts, sizes, positioning, background color layers, scaling? -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>Great advice and info - thanks. So is 300dpi the same as 300 ppi? I >see now that I need to start all over importing the template at 300dpi >not 100. I did a test where I exported a PDF and see a big difference, >so 300 it is. What is the easiest way to copy from the finished work >I've done to the 300 template? The problem with scaling your artwork up: Image -> Scale image (set to 300%) is you will lose quality. Depends on the image if it is acceptable. Any text is better re-done to the larger size wherever possible. rich: www.gimp-forum.net -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>Well, an easy search brings up this. Looks like I got the size wrong. > >https://support.discmakers.com/hc/en-us/articles/209098677--Using-our-Templates-with-Adobe-Photoshop > >so you need these properties > >Resolution: 300 pixels/inch (which makes more sense) : Mode: CMYK >Color : Bit Depth: 8bi > >Import the pdf at 300 ppi which does give the correct canvas size. >Gimp is an 8 bit editor so that is ok. > >CMYK is the problem - Try an online converter such as >http://www.pdf2cmyk.com/ and it looks like the GRACol2006 icc is the >one to use. (see the end of that webpage) Great advice and info - thanks. So is 300dpi the same as 300 ppi? I see now that I need to start all over importing the template at 300dpi not 100. I did a test where I exported a PDF and see a big difference, so 300 it is. What is the easiest way to copy from the finished work I've done to the 300 template? -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
Well, an easy search brings up this. Looks like I got the size wrong. https://support.discmakers.com/hc/en-us/articles/209098677--Using-our-Templates-with-Adobe-Photoshop so you need these properties Resolution: 300 pixels/inch (which makes more sense) : Mode: CMYK Color : Bit Depth: 8bi Import the pdf at 300 ppi which does give the correct canvas size. Gimp is an 8 bit editor so that is ok. CMYK is the problem - Try an online converter such as http://www.pdf2cmyk.com/ and it looks like the GRACol2006 icc is the one to use. (see the end of that webpage) -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
I'm designing the graphics for a CD. I've got all 4 panels done, but am having trouble with the CD label. I'm using the PDF templates DiscMakers supplied, who will be duplicating the CD. The templates have guides showing the borders of the panels. I've colored the panels with the bucket tool by creating a new layer and putting it on top of the guide layer. I can easy adjust the size of the colored layer with the scale tool. With the actual CD label I'm not sure how to handle it since it's a circle with a circular cutout in the center. I used to bucket tool to color the label by just clicking on the label and it fills in nicely, but it doesn't cover the lines and descriptive text on the guide layer. Since I'm not supposed to include the guide layer when I upload the label to DiscMakers, I wonder if I need to somehow separate the color on the label into a new layer? how can I solve this problem? I'm new to GIMP. I'm including the cd label template with this post. Attachments: * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/823/original/UD109.pdf -- GerryPeters (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] setting the cms in GIMP using a ruler in the photo
Hi All, Apologies, I am new to GIMP - I am trying to figure out if there is a way to scale the image in GIMP using a ruler that is in the image. I have taken photos of a number of different fungi in the field and now I need to measure their size. In each photo there is a ruler (that goes both horizontally & vertically) in cm - so basically what I want is a way to tell GIMP that this part of the image is 1cm in size. Is this possible to do? Thanks, Sam -- Samkdawson (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] How can I hide text on a CD label template?
>I'm designing the graphics for a CD. I've got all 4 panels done, but >am having trouble with the CD label. I'm using the PDF templates >DiscMakers supplied, who will be duplicating the CD. > >The templates have guides showing the borders of the panels. I've >colored the panels with the bucket tool by creating a new layer and >putting it on top of the guide layer. I can easy adjust the size of >the colored layer with the scale tool. > >With the actual CD label I'm not sure how to handle it since it's a >circle with a circular cutout in the center. I used to bucket tool to >color the label by just clicking on the label and it fills in nicely, >but it doesn't cover the lines and descriptive text on the guide >layer. > >Since I'm not supposed to include the guide layer when I upload the >label to DiscMakers, I wonder if I need to somehow separate the color >on the label into a new layer? how can I solve this problem? I'm new >to GIMP. I'm including the cd label template with this post. The bottom line is you turn off the visibility of any layer you do not need before exporting as a PDF. That is the little 'eye' icon in the layers dialogue. Probably not as straightforward as you think. Does the printing company provide information of print resolution and colour mode. Gimp is a raster editor, works in pixels and real-world dimensions only come in with printing, so they need to be considered here. The default for Gimp opening a PDF is 100 pixels-per-inch (ppi) which might not give the correct printing size and more important quality. Looking at the PDF in a PDF application gives the document size, 186x186 mm You need to use this in Gimp to set the print resolution when importing the PDF. 190 ppi gives the correct size. see screenshot 1 Then it depends how keen you are. For a one-off, adding artwork and keeping inside the bounds. Use guides and toggle visibility to check as you go along. Turn off the PDF layer visibility before exporting. A better way is to set up your own template, with guides and sized layers so you can see if you exceed the bounds. An example attached and a screenshot with some art. Turn off visibility of un-needed layers before exporting. A bigger hurdle - color mode. CD/DVD disks are typically screenprinted and require a CMYK image. Gimp is just RGB. You will need some other way to produce a CMYK file. Ask the printing company. rich: www.gimp-forum.net Attachments: * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/824/original/01-import.jpg * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/825/original/02-template.jpg * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/826/original/UD109.xcfgz -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] setting the cms in GIMP using a ruler in the photo
>Hi All, > >Apologies, I am new to GIMP - I am trying to figure out if there is a >way to scale the image in GIMP using a ruler that is in the image. I >have taken photos of a number of different fungi in the field and now >I need to measure their size. In each photo there is a ruler (that >goes both horizontally & vertically) in cm - so basically what I want >is a way to tell GIMP that this part of the image is 1cm in size. Is >this possible to do? > >Thanks, Sam You need to adjust the Image -> Print Size resolution values to match the captured ruler scale. First set the canvas units to whatever you are using - cms The example I used is millimetres. That is the drop down units menu (7) shown here: https://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-image-window.html Then use the Gimp measure tool to show the on canvas size. screenshot 1 measures 10 mm as 74.2 mm Use some guides if they help, the measure tool can snap to intersections. Then it is a matter of simple proportions to get a scaling factor in my case 74.2 / 10 = 7.42 Open up Image -> Print Size and multiply whatever resolution is there (mine is 180 ppi - comes from the photo) by the scaling factor. Do by hand or Gimp can do simple arithmetic * multiplies / divides. With that changed the measure tool should now show dimensions corresponding to the image. screenshot 2 rich: www.gimp-forum.net Attachments: * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/827/original/01-scale.jpg * http://www.gimpusers.com/system/attachments/828/original/02-scale.jpg -- rich404 (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
[Gimp-user] File/Create/Scanner ... on GIMP 2.9.8
Ok, I understand. Although Vuescan does provide both 32 and 64 bit drivers, "there’s normally no 64-bit TWAIN data source manager installed on 64-bit Windows" (per Ed Hamrick ). Makes it harder to test :-( >My builds are 64bit. You'll need a 64-bit TWAIN driver. You can easily >test >this by installing a trial version of VueScan >(https://www.hamrick.com/) -- TomW (via www.gimpusers.com/forums) ___ gimp-user-list mailing list List address:gimp-user-list@gnome.org List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-user-list List archives: https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gimp-user-list
