Re: [gmx-users] g_angle gets confused by switching default output file names.

2006-05-10 Thread David van der Spoel

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g_angle -ov angaver.xvg :: yields average angle
g_angle -ov angdist.xvg :: yields angle distribution

My Gromacs-3.3 command was:
g_angle -ov x.xvg -type dihedral -f traj.xtc -s topol.tpr -n my.ndx

Easily avoided, just posting a notice.

'
OK, maybe the program is a bit braindead but actually none of the 
gromacs programs checks for double filenames. If you check your 
directory you'll find a backup file #angdist.xvg.1# with the average 
angle as well as angdist.xvg with the distribution. The average is 
written first, then the file is backuped and the distribution is written.



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Re: [gmx-users] topology transformation

2006-05-10 Thread Anton Feenstra

Anthony Cruz wrote:


Hi users:
How I can convert a topology generated by PRODRG topology generation server to 
a gromos topology??? or I cant use it with the G43a1 GROMOS96 43a1 
Forcefield


There is no automatic way to do that. You'll have to assign Gromos atom 
types (which are similar to those from ProDrg, but *not* identical!) and 
bonded types (for bonds, angles, dihdedrals and impropers). You may have 
to check (or add) the exclusions also.


You could use my 'Topology Tools' (see contributions section) to make 
life easier. After you assign atom types, you use nr2nametop to change 
all atom numbers into labels that include the atom names and types. 
Then, e.g., bonds in your itp file will look like:


[bonds]
  CA(CH3) C(C)  parameters
  C(C) O(O) parameters

Then, using the comments in the ffG43a1bon.itp file, like:
#define gb_40.1230  1.6600e+07
; C  - O1200

you can easily guess to assign gb_4 to the second bond. And, yes, it 
would be possible to automate this to some extent, but it woulc be 
dangerous, too. Assigning bonded interactions like this is really 
guesswork, you will have a good starting point for a molecular topology, 
but (important and/or crucial) details may be horribly wrong.

In practice, it usually works very well, though...

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Re: [gmx-users] ligand falling out of active site during EM

2006-05-10 Thread Anton Feenstra

Diane Fournier wrote:

Thank you ! 


I think the problem was indeed with building the box, because I redid
the whole sequence on my drug-enzyme system (building the box with
editconf, putting the water with genbox, and then writing my .tpr
file with grompp) and ran the same (test) position restraint md run,
and this time, the ligand was inside. Will try minimisation again.


For the record: you have almost certainly had problems with PBC. mdrun 
will always place molecules 'in the box' (see manual). If your complex 
happens to be on the box edge, one molecule may end up at a different 
side of the box.


If, instead, your complex was in the middle of the box, as probably 
happend during your second setup sequence, pbc will not affect it, at 
least not during EM when molecules tend not to move much.


Note, that for different box shapes, the 'middle of the box' may not be 
what you expect.



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Re: [gmx-users] ligand falling out of active site during EM

2006-05-10 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi,

Maybe as a note for any interested but unaware. In gromacs, the middle
of the box is always the middle of the *rectangular* box defined by the
first three numbers in the last line of the .gro file.
Cheers,

Tsjerk
On 5/9/06, Anton Feenstra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Diane Fournier wrote: Thank you ! I think the problem was indeed with building the box, because I redid the whole sequence on my drug-enzyme system (building the box with editconf, putting the water with genbox, and then writing my .tpr
 file with grompp) and ran the same (test) position restraint md run, and this time, the ligand was inside. Will try minimisation again.For the record: you have almost certainly had problems with PBC. mdrun
will always place molecules 'in the box' (see manual). If your complexhappens to be on the box edge, one molecule may end up at a differentside of the box.If, instead, your complex was in the middle of the box, as probably
happend during your second setup sequence, pbc will not affect it, atleast not during EM when molecules tend not to move much.Note, that for different box shapes, the 'middle of the box' may not bewhat you expect.
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[gmx-users] Getting out of the box!!!

2006-05-10 Thread Marcelo Fabricio Masman
Hello gmx users:

I am running a very common MD simulation andthe protein system is getting OUT of the box after approximately 200 ps. I have tried several things.
Does it happen very frequently? (common mistake)
Is there any way to keep, during the whole calculation, the protein system into the center of the box?
What could I do for avoiding this phenomenon?

Thanks in advance.

Marcelo
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Re: [gmx-users] Getting out of the box!!!

2006-05-10 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Marcelo,

Have you considered reading the FAQ, searching the mailing list,
reading the manual or just paying attention? Just yesterday there was
mention of a ligand jumping out of the box, to which several replies
were given and your exact question is asked on this list at least every
month! 

I'll keep my temper. It's just due to the periodic boundary conditions,
nothing wrong, you can use trjconv with option -pbc nojump afterwards
or you can set comm_mode to linear with the protein as comm_group. Now
please read the manual on periodic boundary conditions and for further
reference search the mail list (e.g. periodic boundary conditions,
PBC, jumping, etc...)

TsjerkOn 5/10/06, Marcelo Fabricio Masman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello gmx users:

I am running a very common MD simulation andthe protein
system is getting OUT of the box after approximately 200 ps. I have
tried several things.
Does it happen very frequently? (common mistake)
Is there any way to keep, during the whole calculation, the protein system into the center of the box?
What could I do for avoiding this phenomenon?

Thanks in advance.

Marcelo

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Re: [gmx-users] Getting out of the box!!!

2006-05-10 Thread Marcelo Fabricio Masman

Thank you very much foryour recommendations, Tsjerk.

Marcelo
On 5/10/06, Tsjerk Wassenaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Marcelo,Have you considered reading the FAQ, searching the mailing list, reading the manual or just paying attention? Just yesterday there was mention of a ligand jumping out of the box, to which several replies were given and your exact question is asked on this list at least every month! 
I'll keep my temper. It's just due to the periodic boundary conditions, nothing wrong, you can use trjconv with option -pbc nojump afterwards or you can set comm_mode to linear with the protein as comm_group. Now please read the manual on periodic boundary conditions and for further reference search the mail list (
e.g. periodic boundary conditions, PBC, jumping, etc...)Tsjerk

On 5/10/06, Marcelo Fabricio Masman 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hello gmx users:

I am running a very common MD simulation andthe protein system is getting OUT of the box after approximately 200 ps. I have tried several things.
Does it happen very frequently? (common mistake)
Is there any way to keep, during the whole calculation, the protein system into the center of the box?
What could I do for avoiding this phenomenon?

Thanks in advance.



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Re: [gmx-users] Getting out of the box!!!

2006-05-10 Thread Mark Abraham

Tsjerk Wassenaar wrote:

Marcelo,

Have you considered reading the FAQ, searching the mailing list, reading 
the manual or just paying attention? Just yesterday there was mention of 
a ligand jumping out of the box, to which several replies were given and 
your exact question is asked on this list at least every month!


Well, it is just possible Marcelo is new, Tsjerk... :-) I do echo your 
frustration from time to time that people don't display much initiative 
in solving their own problems, even to the point of not reading 
readily-available material in the manual. In general I'm happy to help 
someone, but I'm much happier to do so if I get the impression they're 
working actively to solve the problem, rather than doing an imitation of 
a sponge... after all, I'm giving up *my* time to help with someone 
else's problem that is of no consequence to me...


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[gmx-users] Problems in gromacs

2006-05-10 Thread karamyog singh
Greeting gromacs users. I am trying to use
gromacs to simulate metals. I am trying to simulate BCC Iron. But I get
the following error message.





Fatal error: Invalid order for directive moleculetype, file topol.top, line 5





I am sending you my input files. Please help me and tell me what is
wrong with my files. Also can you tell me if it is possible to simulate
metallic crystals using gromacs. Mostly people have worked on Bio
Molecules. However I believe that I should be able to simulate Metallic
structures if I modify the source codes a bit. Also, Can you please
tell me if I can use my own potential functions? 





I downloaded force fields made by other people, I
have modified them too to include xb_1 bond type and FE FE interaction.
These modifications have been done in ffG53a6.rtp and ffG53a6bon.itp.
These files are in 53a6.tar.gz on the force field download section of the website www.gromacs.org.





I request you to please help me out as soon as you can. :)


--
grompp.mdp

NES STARTING WITH ';' ARE COMMENTS
title =
Minimization of Hen Egg White Lysozyme
(1AKI.pdb) ; Title of run

; The following lines tell the program the standard locations where to find certain files
cpp
= /lib/cpp ; Preprocessor
include =
-I../top ; Directories to include in the
topology format

; Parameters describing what to do, when to stop and what to save
integrator =
steep ; Algorithm
(steep = steepest descent minimization)
emtol =
1.0 ; Stop
minimization when the maximum force  1.0 kJ/mol
nsteps =
200 ;
Maximum number of (minimization) steps to perform
nstenergy =
10 ;
Write energies to disk every nstenergy steps
nstxtcout =
10 ;
Write coordinates to disk every nstxtcout steps
xtc_grps =
Protein ; Which coordinate group(s)
to write to disk
energygrps = Protein ; Which energy group(s) to write to disk

; Parameters describing how to find the neighbors of each atom and how to calculate the interactions
nstlist =
5
; Frequency to update the neighbor list and long range forces
ns_type =
simple ; Method to determine
neighbor list (simple, grid)
rlist =
1.0 ;
Cut-off for making neighbor list (short range forces)
coulombtype =
cut-off ; Treatment of long range
electrostatic interactions
rcoulomb =
1.0 ; long
range electrostatic cut-off
rvdw
= 1.0 ;
long range Van der Waals cut-off
constraints =
none ; Bond types
to replace by constraints
pbc
= yes ;
Periodic Boundary Conditions (yes/no)
--
topol.top
#include ffG53a6.itp
;#include ffgmx.rtp
;#include ffgmx.atp

[ moleculetype ]
Ions 3

[ atoms ]

1
Fe 1
HEME FE
1 0 55.870

2
Fe 2
HEME FE
1 0 55.870

3
Fe 3
HEME FE
1 0 55.870

4
Fe 4
HEME FE
2 0 55.870

5
Fe 5
HEME FE
2 0 55.870

6
Fe 6
HEME FE
2 0 55.870

7
Fe 7
HEME FE
2 0 55.870

8
Fe 8
HEME FE
3 0 55.870

9
Fe 9
HEME FE
3 0 55.870

[ bonds ]

1 2 1 0.1000 1.7800e+7
--
Pure Fe
9
 1Fe FE 1 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.000 0.000 0.000
 2Fe FE 2 2.70 0.00 0.00 0.000 0.000 0.000
 3Fe FE 3 0.00 2.70 0.00 0.000 0.000 0.000
 4Fe FE 4 0.00 0.00 2.70 0.000 0.000 0.000
 5Fe FE 5 0.00 2.70 2.70 0.000 0.000 0.000
 6Fe FE 6 2.70 0.00 2.70 0.000 0.000 0.000
 7Fe FE 7 2.70 2.70 0.00 0.000 0.000 0.000
 8Fe FE 8 2.70 2.70 2.70 0.000 0.000 0.000
 9Fe FE 9 1.35 1.35 1.35 0.000 0.000 0.000


conf.gro



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Re: [gmx-users] Problems in gromacs

2006-05-10 Thread David van der Spoel

karamyog singh wrote:
Greeting gromacs users. I am trying to use gromacs to simulate metals. I 
am trying to simulate BCC Iron. But I get the following error message.


Fatal error: Invalid order for directive moleculetype, file 
topol.top, line 5


read chapter 5 in the manual about topology files.



I am sending you my input files. Please help me and tell me what is 
wrong with my files. Also can you tell me if it is possible to simulate 
metallic crystals using gromacs. Mostly people have worked on Bio 
Molecules. However I believe that I should be able to simulate Metallic 
structures if I modify the source codes a bit. Also, Can you please tell 
me if I can use my own potential functions?

Depends on what you want. CHeck manual on tabulated functions.




 I downloaded force fields made by other people, I have modified them 
too to include xb_1 bond type and FE FE interaction. These modifications 
have been done in ffG53a6.rtp and ffG53a6bon.itp. These files are in 
53a6.tar.gz on the force field download section of the website 
www.gromacs.org http://www.gromacs.org.


 I request you to please help me out as soon as you can. :)


--
grompp.mdp

NES STARTING WITH ';' ARE COMMENTS
title   = Minimization of Hen Egg White Lysozyme (1AKI.pdb) 
; Title of run


; The following lines tell the program the standard locations where to 
find certain files

cpp = /lib/cpp  ; Preprocessor
include = -I../top  ; Directories to include in the topology 
format


; Parameters describing what to do, when to stop and what to save
integrator  = steep ; Algorithm (steep = steepest descent 
minimization)
emtol   = 1.0   ; Stop minimization when the maximum 
force  1.0 kJ/mol
nsteps  = 200   ; Maximum number of (minimization) steps 
to perform
nstenergy   = 10; Write energies to disk every nstenergy 
steps
nstxtcout   = 10; Write coordinates to disk every 
nstxtcout steps

xtc_grps= Protein   ; Which coordinate group(s) to write to disk
energygrps  = Protein   ; Which energy group(s) to write to disk

; Parameters describing how to find the neighbors of each atom and how 
to calculate the interactions
nstlist = 5 ; Frequency to update the neighbor list 
and long range forces
ns_type = simple; Method to determine neighbor list 
(simple, grid)
rlist   = 1.0   ; Cut-off for making neighbor list 
(short range forces)
coulombtype = cut-off   ; Treatment of long range electrostatic 
interactions

rcoulomb= 1.0   ; long range electrostatic cut-off
rvdw= 1.0   ; long range Van der Waals cut-off
constraints = none  ; Bond types to replace by constraints
pbc = yes   ; Periodic Boundary Conditions (yes/no)
--
topol.top
#include ffG53a6.itp
;#include ffgmx.rtp
;#include ffgmx.atp

[ moleculetype ]
 Ions   3

[ atoms ]
 1  Fe  1HEME FE 1  055.870
 2  Fe  2HEME FE 1  055.870
 3  Fe  3HEME FE 1  055.870
 4  Fe  4HEME FE 2  055.870
 5  Fe  5HEME FE 2  055.870
 6  Fe  6HEME FE 2  055.870
 7  Fe  7HEME FE 2  055.870
 8  Fe  8HEME FE 3  055.870
 9  Fe  9HEME FE 3  055.870

[ bonds ]

 1 2 1 0.1000 1.7800e+7
--
Pure Fe
 9
  1Fe   FE1  0.00 0.00 0.00  0.000 0.000 0.000
  2Fe   FE2  2.70 0.00 0.00  0.000 0.000 0.000
  3Fe   FE3  0.00 2.70 0.00  0.000 0.000 0.000
  4Fe   FE4  0.00 0.00 2.70  0.000 0.000 0.000
  5Fe   FE5  0.00 2.70 2.70  0.000 0.000 0.000
  6Fe   FE6  2.70 0.00 2.70  0.000 0.000 0.000
  7Fe   FE7  2.70 2.70 0.00  0.000 0.000 0.000
  8Fe   FE8  2.70 2.70 2.70  0.000 0.000 0.000
  9Fe   FE9  1.35 1.35 1.35  0.000 0.000 0.000


conf.gro






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Re: [gmx-users] Implementation of time-dependent Electric Field

2006-05-10 Thread David van der Spoel

Viswanadham Sridhara wrote:

Hi everyone,

This is regarding implementation of time-dependent electric field on the 
system.
I tried looking into the manual, and did a bit of survey in mailing 
lists. I still dont know how to implement E_zt in .mdp options.
As an example, can anyone tell me how to implement a 5ns E (V/nm) 
trapezoidal pulse (1ns rise and fall times with 3ns pulse on time).



you can't.

please check the source code, src/mdlib/sim_util.c


Thanks in advance,
-Viswanadham.

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[gmx-users] Value for bonded force constant (Kb)

2006-05-10 Thread raja
Hi gmxions, 
Based on the litterature search , I am going to use Kb
value of  4 Kcal/mol A2 (1673.6 KJ/mol nm2)as harmonic bonded force
field constant(type 6) for restraining distance of Fe(II) ligated with
atoms of 2 Nitrogen  and  1 Oxygen. If any one having objection please
correct me ):  .


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Re: [gmx-users] Value for bonded force constant (Kb)

2006-05-10 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Raja,No objections from my side. But if you could also include the references resulting from your literature study, that would be nice to have in the archive (may save somebody searching the literature to find some iron - ligand parameters).
Cheers,TsjerkOn 5/10/06, raja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi gmxions,Based on the litterature search , I am going to use Kbvalue of  4 Kcal/mol A2 (1673.6 KJ/mol nm2)as harmonic bonded forcefield constant(type 6) for restraining distance of Fe(II) ligated with
atoms of 2 Nitrogenand1 Oxygen. If any one having objection pleasecorrect me ):.With thanks !B.Nataraj--raja[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[gmx-users] simulation of long chains in vacuum

2006-05-10 Thread Rongliang Wu
Hello, gmx-users,
i generated a chain of 1000 units and intended to simulate in vacuum, 
but the system exploded and the mdp file is as follows:

title= PE
cpp  = /usr/bin/cpp
include  = 
define   = 
integrator   = md
dt   = 0.002
nsteps   = 10
nstxout  = 5000
nstvout  = 5000
nstlog   = 5000
nstenergy= 500
nstxtcout= 2000
xtc_grps =
energygrps   =
comm_mode= angular
nstlist  = 0
ns_type  = simple
rlist= 0
rvdw = 0
rcoulomb = 0
pbc  = no
tcoupl   = Berendsen
tc-grps  = system
tau_t= 0.1 
ref_t= 300 
Pcoupl   = no
;Pcoupltype   = isotropic
;tau_p= 1.0
;compressibility  = 4.5e-4
;ref_p= 1.0 
;annealing   = 
single
;annealing_npoints   = 15
;annealing_time  = 0 5 10 15 20 25 30 35 40 45 
50 55 60 65 70
;annealing_temp  = 370 365 360 355 350 345 340 
335 330 325 320 315 310 305 300
gen_vel  = yes
gen_temp = 300
gen_seed = 173529
constraints  = all-bonds
optimize_fft = yes

are there any obvious errors? 
and my system is quite large, about   49.90900  70.12100 231.85800 ns
is there any upper limits for gromacs systems?

Regards

Thanks


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Re: [gmx-users] Value for bonded force constant (Kb)

2006-05-10 Thread raja
Hi Mr Tsjerkw,   
Thanks for your mail. Infact I intented to attach
the reference link but I missed it. Anyway here is the link where I
taken
the value of Kb. Infact the reference only talk between Fe and O atoms.
I belive this value will be more reasonably for my purpose. I will
update the outcome of the result of MD using this restraints after my
work completes.

In mean time here is the reference link 
http://www.jbc.org/cgi/content/full/280/51/42188 

For quick find out on the page , use this key work force constant of 
4.0 kcal/mol/Å2 and please let me know the validity of my judgement.

With Thanks !
B.Nataraj



On Wed, 10 May 2006 13:50:17 +0200, Tsjerk Wassenaar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 Hi Raja,

 No objections from my side. But if you could also include the
 references resulting from your literature study, that would be nice to
 have in the archive (may save somebody searching the literature to
 find some iron - ligand parameters).

 Cheers,

 Tsjerk

 On 5/10/06, raja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Hi gmxions, Based on the litterature search , I am going to use Kb
  value of  4 Kcal/mol A2 (1673.6 KJ/mol nm2)as harmonic bonded
  force field constant(type 6) for restraining distance of Fe(II)
  ligated with atoms of 2 Nitrogen  and  1 Oxygen. If any one having
  objection please correct me ):  .
 
 
  With thanks !
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Re: [gmx-users] Implementation of time-dependent Electric Field

2006-05-10 Thread Erik Lindahl

Hi,

On May 10, 2006, at 1:24 PM, David van der Spoel wrote:


Viswanadham Sridhara wrote:

Hi everyone,
This is regarding implementation of time-dependent electric field  
on the system.
I tried looking into the manual, and did a bit of survey in  
mailing lists. I still dont know how to implement E_zt in .mdp  
options.
As an example, can anyone tell me how to implement a 5ns E (V/nm)  
trapezoidal pulse (1ns rise and fall times with 3ns pulse on time).

you can't.

please check the source code, src/mdlib/sim_util.c


To clarify - the routine in question is called calc_f_el() and is  
_extremely_ simple, so you can probably implement it yourself with  
very little extra work.


The coordinates of particule i (counting starts from 0, since we're  
using C) are available in units of nm in


x[i][XX]
x[i][YY]
x[i][ZZ]

Similarly, the forces you want to alter are in units of kJ/mol/nm, in

f[i][XX]
f[i][YY]
f[i][ZZ]

... and the particle charge is charge[i], in electron charge units.

So, go through all particles, check e.g. the z-coordinate and assign  
a field in V/nm based on this. We need to convert it to MD units too,  
so the force correction will be


f[i][ZZ] += your_calculated_field_at_this_z_coordiate * FIELDFAC *  
charge[i].




Cheers,

Erik




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Re: [gmx-users] simulation of long chains in vacuum

2006-05-10 Thread Mark Abraham
Rongliang Wu wrote:
 Hello, gmx-users,
   i generated a chain of 1000 units and intended to simulate in vacuum, 
 but the system exploded and the mdp file is as follows:

Please tell us you have done normal things like energy minimization and
or position-restrained MD, and checked visually that things look OK else
we might suspect the problem is that you haven't done these basic things
and not bother wasting our time telling you to do them.

 are there any obvious errors? 

Looks OK to me.

 and my system is quite large, about   49.90900  70.12100 231.85800 ns
 is there any upper limits for gromacs systems?

I don't believe so. You could look in the manual...

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Implementation of time-dependent Electric Field

2006-05-10 Thread Viswanadham Sridhara
Thanks for the quick feedback!
On 5/10/06, Erik Lindahl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,On May 10, 2006, at 1:24 PM, David van der Spoel wrote: Viswanadham Sridhara wrote:
 Hi everyone, This is regarding implementation of time-dependent electric field on the system. I tried looking into the manual, and did a bit of survey in mailing lists. I still dont know how to implement E_zt in .mdp
 options. As an example, can anyone tell me how to implement a 5ns E (V/nm) trapezoidal pulse (1ns rise and fall times with 3ns pulse on time). you can't. please check the source code, src/mdlib/sim_util.c
To clarify - the routine in question is called calc_f_el() and is_extremely_ simple, so you can probably implement it yourself withvery little extra work.The coordinates of particule i (counting starts from 0, since we're
using C) are available in units of nm inx[i][XX]x[i][YY]x[i][ZZ]Similarly, the forces you want to alter are in units of kJ/mol/nm, inf[i][XX]f[i][YY]f[i][ZZ]... and the particle charge is charge[i], in electron charge units.
So, go through all particles, check e.g. the z-coordinate and assigna field in V/nm based on this. We need to convert it to MD units too,so the force correction will bef[i][ZZ] += your_calculated_field_at_this_z_coordiate * FIELDFAC *
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Re: [gmx-users] topology transformation

2006-05-10 Thread Christian Burisch

Anthony Cruz wrote:

Hi users:


Hi Anthony,

How I can convert a topology generated by PRODRG topology generation server to 
a gromos topology??? or I cant use it with the G43a1 GROMOS96 43a1 
Forcefield


did you try the beta version? It generates 43A1 topologies. There are 
some issues with impropers and atom types in phosphate groups (see my 
comment on this list a few months ago), but everything else IMHO is 
parameterized very well. The charges sometimes aren't polar enough 
(e.g. in hydroxyl groups), thus you should use standard 43A1 charge 
group charges as far as possible. For unknown moieties you may need to 
do some QM calculations (e.g. DFT/ESP).


Regards

Christian
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RE: [gmx-users] How many ps needs a simulation?

2006-05-10 Thread Dallas B. Warren
How many ps needs a simulation?

How long is a piece of string?

Seriously though, depends on what you are trying to observe and
determine.

Also check the literature to see what is currently being done with
similar systems and properties.

Typically it will be at least an order of magnitude longer than the
process you wish to observe.  But what is possible and what you want can
be very too different things.

Catch ya,

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RE: [gmx-users] How many ps needs a simulation?

2006-05-10 Thread jahanshah ashkani
Thanks,  In fact I have a sequence with 1277 residue. It is stable even in 50ps. But when I continue to simulation my pc is restarted in 4 steps, automaticly. I should say that this step needs about 100 h time."Dallas B. Warren" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  How many ps needs a simulation?How long is a piece of string?Seriously though, depends on what you are trying to observe anddetermine.Also check the literature to see what is currently being done withsimilar systems and properties."Typically" it will be at least an order of magnitude longer than theprocess you wish to observe. But what is possible and what you want canbe very too different things.Catch ya,Dr. Dallas WarrenLecturerDepartment of Pharmaceutical Biology and
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