[gmx-users] Re: About the parameters for REMD in vacuum

2007-11-26 Thread Xavier Periole


Dear Ozge,

lets keep the discussion in the gmx-users list.

Thank you for your quick reply! I used the temperature distribution that was 
used in your paper: starting from 275.6 to 399.6. 


This distribution was chosen to give an exchange ratio of ~0.3 on the
system used: a beta-peptide in methanol. Given that you change the
system and thus the degrees of freedom you have adapt your temperatures.
Their distribution has to be chosen such that the overlap of total
potential energy of the system at consecutive temperatures allows
exchange. You can tune the separations between the temperatures to
vary the exchange rate.

I used the 0.002 ps as time step, but I could not understand what you 
suggested exactly. You asked the time step for temperature coupling? Is is 
true? if so, the temperature coupling constant was 0.1. 


I was referring to the integration time step, which is the time step you
use to integrate the equation of motion that are used to propagate your
system in time.
If you go to higher temperature the thermal energy is such that the
motions of the atoms are increased and you need to decrease the time
step of integration to be able to describe the evolution of the system.

That might be the reason you see LINCS warnings.

Then the fact that you do not use explicit solvent (no viscosity)
will increase the motion of the particles (atoms) and may add to the
problem described above.

What temperature coupling constant and temperature interval will be 
appropriate for simulation in vacuum via REMD?


delta=0.001 ps might be enough. You need to make some trials.

But again, simulating in vacuo is almost useless, unless you want to
show that the sampling is inaccurate.

Have you ever performed REMD in vacuum? 


Yes to show that you get erroneous sampling. This is well accepted
also there are few papers showing it explicitly. Same thing for the
use of implicit solvents but this is more documented in the literature.
Look for papers of AE. Garcia and co-workers.


Ozge


XAvier

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[gmx-users] Chains blowing Apart

2007-11-26 Thread csreddy
Hi All,
I have been trying run energy minimization for a homoTRIMER protein, I
have puzzled by the following results!

1) energy minimization in vacuum 1 chain is separated from the remaining 2
chains. I tried for 5 models in 4 models chains are separated and one is
normal.
2)energy minimization in box with or with out solvent, no chain separation
for all the 5 models.
please note that EM method is steepest decent, I have tried size on the
box up to 20nm.

CONTESTS OF MDP FILE

cpp =  /usr/bin/cpp
define  =  -DFLEX_SPC
constraints =  none
integrator  =  steep
nsteps  =  100
;
;   Energy minimizing stuff
;
emtol   =  2000
emstep  =  0.01

nstcomm =  1
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1
rcoulomb=  1.0
rvdw=  1.0
Tcoupl  =  no
Pcoupl  =  no
gen_vel =  no


What would be the probable reason for this. Please let me know.

Regards
Chandu


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Re: [gmx-users] Chains blowing Apart

2007-11-26 Thread Xavier Periole

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:45:01 +0530 (IST)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All,
I have been trying run energy minimization for a homoTRIMER protein, I
have puzzled by the following results!

1) energy minimization in vacuum 1 chain is separated from the remaining 2
chains. I tried for 5 models in 4 models chains are separated and one is
normal.

2)energy minimization in box with or with out solvent, no chain separation
for all the 5 models.
please note that EM method is steepest decent, I have tried size on the
box up to 20nm.


you are probably experiencing the effect of PBC. In the cases you
see separation, centering the protein in the box should solve the
problem.



CONTESTS OF MDP FILE

cpp =  /usr/bin/cpp
define  =  -DFLEX_SPC
constraints =  none
integrator  =  steep
nsteps  =  100
;
;   Energy minimizing stuff
;
emtol   =  2000
emstep  =  0.01

nstcomm =  1
ns_type =  grid
rlist   =  1
rcoulomb=  1.0
rvdw=  1.0
Tcoupl  =  no
Pcoupl  =  no
gen_vel =  no


What would be the probable reason for this. Please let me know.

Regards
Chandu


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[gmx-users] Re: Chain separation problem

2007-11-26 Thread Xavier Periole

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:33:36 +0530 (IST)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Periole,
Thank you so much for your suggestion. I was not sure weather to reply all
or  individually. 


It is always better to keep the discussion on the users list. The info
given might serve other users.


I am sorry I am not clear about your answer. I am
getting the problem only when I am not using the box, but you said to
center the protein in the box? Could you please explain this.


When you use a box the program will deal with the position of the
system relative to the box faces. If a molecule (first atom) moves
and crosses the dimension of the box on one axis (x,y,z) -it
physically gets out of the box- it will be replaced inside the box
on the opposite box-side (same axis). Have a look at the manual or
any text book on simulations, this will be more clearly explained.
 
When you build your system, it might be that one part of it is

inside the box and the other part is outside. This is more likely
to happen when multimeric structures are simulated. Then the program
will automatically replace the parts of the system that are outside
the box to the inside. Note that the system does not feel it.

If you want to avoid this you have to center your system before
doing any minimization. Note that the box has to be large enough
to accommodate your system plus solvent.

XAvier


Thanks in advance
Chandu
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:45:01 +0530 (IST)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All,
I have been trying run energy minimization for a homoTRIMER protein, I
have puzzled by the following results!

1) energy minimization in vacuum 1 chain is separated from the remaining 2
chains. I tried for 5 models in 4 models chains are separated and one is
normal.

2)energy minimization in box with or with out solvent, no chain separation
for all the 5 models.
please note that EM method is steepest decent, I have tried size on the
box up to 20nm.


you are probably experiencing the effect of PBC. In the cases you
see separation, centering the protein in the box should solve the
problem.


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Laboratoire de Biochimie et Génétique Moléculaire
Université de La Réunion
15, avenue René Cassin
97715 Saint Denis Messag Cedex 09
La Réunion, France
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Chain separation problem

2007-11-26 Thread Xavier Periole

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 11:44:22 +0100
 Xavier Periole [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:33:36 +0530 (IST)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear Periole,
Thank you so much for your suggestion. I was not sure weather to reply all
or  individually. 


It is always better to keep the discussion on the users list. The info
given might serve other users.


I am sorry I am not clear about your answer. I am
getting the problem only when I am not using the box, but you said to
center the protein in the box? Could you please explain this.


Sorry I thought you had the problem only when using a box!
Then I am also confused. Without boundaries this should not happen.
Check you input must be something funny there.

XAvier


When you use a box the program will deal with the position of the
system relative to the box faces. If a molecule (first atom) moves
and crosses the dimension of the box on one axis (x,y,z) -it
physically gets out of the box- it will be replaced inside the box
on the opposite box-side (same axis). Have a look at the manual or
any text book on simulations, this will be more clearly explained.
 
When you build your system, it might be that one part of it is

inside the box and the other part is outside. This is more likely
to happen when multimeric structures are simulated. Then the program
will automatically replace the parts of the system that are outside
the box to the inside. Note that the system does not feel it.

If you want to avoid this you have to center your system before
doing any minimization. Note that the box has to be large enough
to accommodate your system plus solvent.

XAvier


Thanks in advance
Chandu
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:45:01 +0530 (IST)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi All,
I have been trying run energy minimization for a homoTRIMER protein, I
have puzzled by the following results!

1) energy minimization in vacuum 1 chain is separated from the remaining 2
chains. I tried for 5 models in 4 models chains are separated and one is
normal.

2)energy minimization in box with or with out solvent, no chain separation
for all the 5 models.
please note that EM method is steepest decent, I have tried size on the
box up to 20nm.


you are probably experiencing the effect of PBC. In the cases you
see separation, centering the protein in the box should solve the
problem.


--
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Laboratoire de Biochimie et Génétique Moléculaire
Université de La Réunion
15, avenue René Cassin
97715 Saint Denis Messag Cedex 09
La Réunion, France
Tel : +262 262 93 8641 MOB +262 (0)692 44 49 42
Fax : +262 262 93 8237
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[gmx-users] [Fwd: Semiisotropic pressure coupling comm_grps (VCM)]

2007-11-26 Thread David van der Spoel



 Original Message 
Subject:Semiisotropic pressure coupling  comm_grps (VCM)
Date:   Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:04:05 +0530
From:   Alok [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Dear Sir,

Sorry for personnel mail. I have posted these question in gromacs
mailing list but I haven't got the answer. So I am sending you personally.

I have two basic questions regarding membrane protein simulation. First
regarding Semiisotropic pressure coupling (NPAT) and second regarding
comm_grpp (VCM).

1) If I want to use NPAT ensemble (x/y dimensions of bilayer to be
fixed) then is following the correct way to define?

Pcoupl   =  Berendsen
Pcoupltype=  semiisotropic
tau_p =   2.0 2.0
compressibility =   04.5e-5
ref_p =  1.0  1.0

In some of the previous mails on same topic ref_p was defined as 0.0
1.0 in place of 1.0   1.0 even they was using compressibility 0.0
4.5e-5, that's why I am confuse. Do I have to take ref_p = 1.0   1.0 or
 0.0   1.0 when I am using compressibility 0.0   4.5e-5 (NPAT). I think
if I am taking compressibility value 0 then it doesn't matter what value
I have taken for ref_p, but I want to confirm it.

2) I want to remove center of mass translation so in following which one
is better?

a)comm_mode=  Linear
   nstcomm   =  1
   comm_grps  =  Protein_POP ; (both protein and
lipid are together)

b)comm_mode=  Linear
   nstcomm   =  1
   comm_grps  =  Protein POP ; (protein and
lipid separately)


Thanks a lot

Best Regards,
Alok

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[gmx-users] Re: Chain separation problem

2007-11-26 Thread csreddy
Dear Periole,
Thank you so much for your kind reply, as you suggested I will keep the
discussion on the users list. Please note that I AM GETTING PROBLEM ONLY
WHEN I AM NOT USING ANY BOX.
When I am keeping the protein in the box with or with out solution
chains are not separating.
What I understood from your suggestion is solution for the chain
separation in the box.


Regards
Chandu


 On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:33:36 +0530 (IST)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dear Periole,
 Thank you so much for your suggestion. I was not sure weather to reply
 all
 or  individually.

 It is always better to keep the discussion on the users list. The info
 given might serve other users.

 I am sorry I am not clear about your answer. I am
 getting the problem only when I am not using the box, but you said to
 center the protein in the box? Could you please explain this.

 When you use a box the program will deal with the position of the
 system relative to the box faces. If a molecule (first atom) moves
 and crosses the dimension of the box on one axis (x,y,z) -it
 physically gets out of the box- it will be replaced inside the box
 on the opposite box-side (same axis). Have a look at the manual or
 any text book on simulations, this will be more clearly explained.

 When you build your system, it might be that one part of it is
 inside the box and the other part is outside. This is more likely
 to happen when multimeric structures are simulated. Then the program
 will automatically replace the parts of the system that are outside
 the box to the inside. Note that the system does not feel it.

 If you want to avoid this you have to center your system before
 doing any minimization. Note that the box has to be large enough
 to accommodate your system plus solvent.

 XAvier

 Thanks in advance
 Chandu
 On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:45:01 +0530 (IST)
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi All,
 I have been trying run energy minimization for a homoTRIMER protein, I
 have puzzled by the following results!

 1) energy minimization in vacuum 1 chain is separated from the
 remaining 2
 chains. I tried for 5 models in 4 models chains are separated and one
 is
 normal.

 2)energy minimization in box with or with out solvent, no chain
 separation
 for all the 5 models.
 please note that EM method is steepest decent, I have tried size on the
 box up to 20nm.

 you are probably experiencing the effect of PBC. In the cases you
 see separation, centering the protein in the box should solve the
 problem.


 --
 C.Chandra Sekhar Reddy (Research Scholar)
 Laboratoire de Biochimie et Génétique Moléculaire
 Université de La Réunion
 15, avenue René Cassin
 97715 Saint Denis Messag Cedex 09
 La Réunion, France
 Tel : +262 262 93 8641 MOB +262 (0)692 44 49 42
Fax : +262 262 93 8237
 --


 -
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 NMR  Molecular Dynamics Group
 University of Groningen
 The Netherlands
 http://md.chem.rug.nl/~periole
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Tel : +262 262 93 8641 MOB +262 (0)692 44 49 42
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Re: [gmx-users] [Fwd: Semiisotropic pressure coupling comm_grps (VCM)]

2007-11-26 Thread Xavier Periole



I have two basic questions regarding membrane protein simulation. First
regarding Semiisotropic pressure coupling (NPAT) and second regarding
comm_grpp (VCM).

1) If I want to use NPAT ensemble (x/y dimensions of bilayer to be
fixed) then is following the correct way to define?

Pcoupl   =  Berendsen
Pcoupltype=  semiisotropic
tau_p =   2.0 2.0
compressibility =   04.5e-5
ref_p =  1.0  1.0

In some of the previous mails on same topic ref_p was defined as 0.0
1.0 in place of 1.0   1.0 even they was using compressibility 0.0
4.5e-5, that's why I am confuse. Do I have to take ref_p = 1.0   1.0 or
 0.0   1.0 when I am using compressibility 0.0   4.5e-5 (NPAT). I think
if I am taking compressibility value 0 then it doesn't matter what value
I have taken for ref_p, but I want to confirm it.


I would guess that ref_p = 1.0 1.0 and ref_p = 0.0 1.0 would give
the result since you define compressibility = 0.0 4.5e-05

you can check that by running small trajectories ...


2) I want to remove center of mass translation so in following which one
is better?

a)comm_mode=  Linear
   nstcomm   =  1
   comm_grps  =  Protein_POP ; (both protein and
lipid are together)

b)comm_mode=  Linear
   nstcomm   =  1
   comm_grps  =  Protein POP ; (protein and
lipid separately)


It is better to remove the COM of both bilayer (plus protein) and the
aqueous phase:
comm_grps = Protein_POP SOL

XAvier




Thanks a lot

Best Regards,
Alok

--
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Molec. Biophys. group, Dept. of Cell  Molec. Biol., Uppsala University.
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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Chain separation problem

2007-11-26 Thread Mark Abraham
 Dear Periole,
 Thank you so much for your kind reply, as you suggested I will keep the
 discussion on the users list. Please note that I AM GETTING PROBLEM ONLY
 WHEN I AM NOT USING ANY BOX.

Please also refrain from using all-capitals. It is regarded as the email
equivalent of shouting. It will get your email ignored, rather than
treated with more urgency.

If your proteins-are-moving apart problem is not a PBC artifact, and does
not occur when you use PBC, then you have a perplexing problem. First,
check your inputs again, so that you really are doing what you think
you're doing. Even repeat the whole setup from scratch. The simplest
explanation is user error.

Mark

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[gmx-users] Confusion Regarding Vacuum

2007-11-26 Thread csreddy
Dear All,
I am a bit confused regarding  Vacuum. I wanted to do EM in Vacuum. I
think I can proceed either of the below...

1) I create a box (editconf) and place a molecule with out solvent.
2) Never create a box, then proceed other steps as usual like EM etc.

Can we call 2nd option also a vacuum and what is more appropriate?


Regards
Chandu


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[gmx-users] Coarse-graining and tabulated non-bonded potentials - will write up on the wiki

2007-11-26 Thread Steven Kirk

Hello all,

Firstly, many thanks to everyone who has contributed useful advice to me 
over a number of years using GROMACS.


I have performed a large number of potential of mean force calculations 
for the forces acting between two approximately spherical amorphous 
silica particles (various sizes  5 nm diameter) in TIP4P water with PME 
electrostatics and varying concentrations of background ions.


Now I want to 'coarse-grain' the simulation, treating each silica 
particle as a single point mass, and use the interaction potential 
between the particles obtained from the PMF results as a tabulated 
potential in mdrun, to allow longer time- and size-scales to be 
investigated (I want to examine colloidal aggregation behaviour of these 
particles).


I have tabulated the PMF potential and its derivatives as a function of 
centre-of-mass separation of the particles as suggested in the manual 
(but I can only tabulate for COM-COM distances greater than the contact 
distance [ = 2r in the hard-sphere approximation] out to some cutoff).
Will I have to add a short-distance 'hard-sphere' wall to my tabulated 
potentials?


I have read the appropriate section of the manual on tabulated 
interactions, and am working on building an appropriate topology. IU am 
assuming that my coarse-grained particles consist of the silica 
particles plus a number of surface counterions in such a way that the 
particles will be electrically neutral, so presumably I can set all the 
entries in the tabulated potential file for the Coulomb terms to zero. 
If my understanding of the manual is correct, I can then introduce my 
PMF potential in one or other of the g() and h() columns, along with its 
appropriate derivatives.


The plan is to randomly place a number of the coarse-grained particles 
in a simulation box and choose an appropriate time step and thermostat 
to run aggregation simulations. Some of the literature I have read 
suggests timesteps of around 10^-6 s and Brownian dynamics - can anyone 
comment on the advisability of these choices? I anticipate significant 
aggregation within ~seconds.


Another issue is whether or not to include coarse-grained water and 
explicit ions in the simulation box. Recent postings on this list have 
suggested that Lagrangian dynamics should not be done in a vacuum, so 
presumably the same is true for Brownian dynamics? Has anyone on the 
list used 'coarse-grained' water in their GROMACS simulations 
(references needed)?


If I have extracted different tabulated potentials for each background 
counterion concentration, this information is presumably 'built in' to 
my extracted PMF interparticle potentials, and I shouldn't need to 
include explicit counterions in my coarse-grained simulation, correct?


Thank you for reading all the way through this posting. As mentioned in 
the message title, I will use and write up any advice given to me as a 
draft example tutorial on the wiki, then more qualified people can 
correct the (probably numerous) mistakes.


Many thanks in advance,
Steve Kirk
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RE: [gmx-users] Coarse-graining and tabulated non-bonded potentials - will write

2007-11-26 Thread Berk Hess





From: Steven Kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: [gmx-users] Coarse-graining and tabulated non-bonded potentials - 
will write up on the wiki

Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 13:57:37 +0100

Hello all,

Firstly, many thanks to everyone who has contributed useful advice to me 
over a number of years using GROMACS.


I have performed a large number of potential of mean force calculations for 
the forces acting between two approximately spherical amorphous silica 
particles (various sizes  5 nm diameter) in TIP4P water with PME 
electrostatics and varying concentrations of background ions.


Now I want to 'coarse-grain' the simulation, treating each silica particle 
as a single point mass, and use the interaction potential between the 
particles obtained from the PMF results as a tabulated potential in mdrun, 
to allow longer time- and size-scales to be investigated (I want to examine 
colloidal aggregation behaviour of these particles).


I have tabulated the PMF potential and its derivatives as a function of 
centre-of-mass separation of the particles as suggested in the manual (but 
I can only tabulate for COM-COM distances greater than the contact distance 
[ = 2r in the hard-sphere approximation] out to some cutoff).
Will I have to add a short-distance 'hard-sphere' wall to my tabulated 
potentials?


I don't really understand the issue here.
You (would) also directly get the repulsive part of the PMF from a 
constraint

simulation. I assume that you mean that you have not done simulations
to obtain the PMF at shorter distances?
If not, just do so.



I have read the appropriate section of the manual on tabulated 
interactions, and am working on building an appropriate topology. IU am 
assuming that my coarse-grained particles consist of the silica particles 
plus a number of surface counterions in such a way that the particles will 
be electrically neutral, so presumably I can set all the entries in the 
tabulated potential file for the Coulomb terms to zero. If my understanding 
of the manual is correct, I can then introduce my PMF potential in one or 
other of the g() and h() columns, along with its appropriate derivatives.


The plan is to randomly place a number of the coarse-grained particles in a 
simulation box and choose an appropriate time step and thermostat to run 
aggregation simulations. Some of the literature I have read suggests 
timesteps of around 10^-6 s and Brownian dynamics - can anyone comment on 
the advisability of these choices? I anticipate significant aggregation 
within ~seconds.


Another issue is whether or not to include coarse-grained water and 
explicit ions in the simulation box. Recent postings on this list have 
suggested that Lagrangian dynamics should not be done in a vacuum, so 
presumably the same is true for Brownian dynamics? Has anyone on the list 
used 'coarse-grained' water in their GROMACS simulations (references 
needed)?


If I have extracted different tabulated potentials for each background 
counterion concentration, this information is presumably 'built in' to my 
extracted PMF interparticle potentials, and I shouldn't need to include 
explicit counterions in my coarse-grained simulation, correct?


Because of the way you did things, everything is included in the PMF,
both water and counterions.
If this is an accurate approach is a completely different matter.
Now you have the 2-body coarse-grained term correct, but there
could of course be multi-body non-additive effects.
For such effects you might need coarse-grained water or counterions,
but then things get much more complicated.

Berk.




Thank you for reading all the way through this posting. As mentioned in the 
message title, I will use and write up any advice given to me as a draft 
example tutorial on the wiki, then more qualified people can correct the 
(probably numerous) mistakes.


Many thanks in advance,
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Re: [gmx-users] Confusion Regarding Vacuum

2007-11-26 Thread Xavier Periole

On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:06:46 +0530 (IST)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear All,
I am a bit confused regarding  Vacuum. I wanted to do EM in Vacuum. I
think I can proceed either of the below...

1) I create a box (editconf) and place a molecule with out solvent.
2) Never create a box, then proceed other steps as usual like EM etc.


you should make sure your mdp file specifies no pbc:
pbc = none


Can we call 2nd option also a vacuum and what is more appropriate?


Regards
Chandu


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Re: [gmx-users] how to deduce charges for gromos forcefield?

2007-11-26 Thread David Mobley
Probably the easiest way for you to get an answer to this is to look
up the references which discuss the parameterization of the GROMOS
force field. Consistency is the name of the game. See here:
http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Parameterization

David


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 Dear gmx-users, I want to develop an itp file for an organic molecule which
 has 87 atoms. I deduced the charge using the common Resp procedure with
 RED-III tool.However , I am not quite sure if the Resp charge or Esp charge
 can be used in Gromos forcefield, if not, how does Gromos forcefied deduce
 its charge distribution?
 Any suggestion will be appreciated, thanks in advance.
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[gmx-users] Can 1-4 interactions be excluded seperately?

2007-11-26 Thread Bo Zhou
Hi all,

There are two molecules in my system. One is parameterized with no torsion
term in the energy expression (consistent with the OPLS force field), so 1-4
interactions should be excluded. The other one is treated as a normal
protein molecule using OPLS force field. I want to include OPLS ff, but not
to gen pairs with the previous molecule. Does it feasible in gmx?
Thanks in advance.

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[gmx-users] WCA potential

2007-11-26 Thread Argyrios Karatrantos
hi all, 

i am using a WCA potential and PME  to calculate the non-bonded interactions of 
monomers of polyelectrolyte chains and counterions in solution.
i use a table.xvg file where i have inserted the WCA potential (given values to 
 x,f(x),f''(x),g(x),g''(x),h(x),h''(x) as is explained in the manual). is that 
the only way to insert the WCA potential  in gromacs or i can do that 
automatically from the input file?   




  

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RE: [gmx-users] WCA potential

2007-11-26 Thread Berk Hess





From: Argyrios Karatrantos [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: [gmx-users] WCA potential
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 07:51:57 -0800 (PST)

hi all,

i am using a WCA potential and PME  to calculate the non-bonded 
interactions of monomers of polyelectrolyte chains and counterions in 
solution.
i use a table.xvg file where i have inserted the WCA potential (given 
values to  x,f(x),f''(x),g(x),g''(x),h(x),h''(x) as is explained in the 
manual). is that the only way to insert the WCA potential  in gromacs or i 
can do that automatically from the input file?


That is (currently) the only way of doing it.
But since Gromacs is becoming popular for coarse-grained simulations,
we should consider writing special WCA loops.

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[gmx-users] Problems compiling GROMACS on IBM Blue Gene/L

2007-11-26 Thread Fiona Reid

Dear Gromacs-Users,

I'm hoping you can help.

I've tried compiling both version 3.3.1 and 3.3.2 of GROMACS on an IBM 
Blue Gene/L system but get the same error message with each version. The 
error is similar to that obtained by Hiroshi Fujisaki in thread:

http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2006-September/023957.html
Unfortunately no solution to this problem was ever posted to the list.

To compile the GROMACS I've used the following settings/configure flags.

export MPICC=mpixlc
export CC=blrts_xlc
export CXX=blrts_xlC
export F77=blrts_xlf
export LDFLAGS=${LDFLAGS} -L/bgl/local/lib/fftw/lib
export CPPFLAGS=${CPPFLAGS} -I/bgl/local/lib/fftw/include
export FFLAGS=-O3 -qarch=440 -qtune=440 -qmaxmem=-1 -qhot
export CFLAGS=-O3 -qarch=440 -qtune=440 -qmaxmem=-1 -qhot
** Note: mpixlc is a wrapper script which bundles up all the library paths 
** to ensure they are linked in the correct order.


./configure --prefix=${PREFIX} --without-xml --without-x --with-fft=fftw2 --disable-float 
--enable-mpi --program-suffix=_mpi_d --build=ppc-linux-gnu --host=powerpc   
$LOGFILE
make mdrun

The error message I get is:

$ make mdrun
(cd ./src/gmxlib  make ; exit 0)
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/b00/fiona/gromacs-3.3.1/src/gmxlib'
Making all in nonbonded
make[2]: Entering directory 
`/home/b00/fiona/gromacs-3.3.1/src/gmxlib/nonbonded'

Making all in nb_kernel
make[3]: Entering directory 
`/home/b00/fiona/gromacs-3.3.1/src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel'

rm -f kernel-stamp
./mknb -double  -software_invsqrt

Gromacs nonbonded kernel generator (-h for help)
Generating double precision functions in C.
Using Gromacs software version of 1/sqrt(x).

Error: Cannot open nb_kernel010_c.c for writing.
make[3]: *** [kernel-stamp] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/home/b00/fiona/gromacs-3.3.1/src/gmxlib/nonbonded/nb_kernel'

make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/home/b00/fiona/gromacs-3.3.1/src/gmxlib/nonbonded'

make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/b00/fiona/gromacs-3.3.1/src/gmxlib'
(cd ./src/mdlib  make ; exit 0)
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/b00/fiona/gromacs-3.3.1/src/mdlib'
make[1]: Nothing to be done for `all'.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/b00/fiona/gromacs-3.3.1/src/mdlib'
(cd ./src/kernel  make mdrun ; exit 0)
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/b00/fiona/gromacs-3.3.1/src/kernel'
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `../gmxlib/libgmx_mpi_d.la', needed by 
`mdrun'.  Stop.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/b00/fiona/gromacs-3.3.1/src/kernel'

Any help or suggestions would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Fiona
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Re: [gmx-users] Range checking error

2007-11-26 Thread David van der Spoel

Yanzi Zhou wrote:

Dear Gromacs-Users,

Can anybody help me?

When I do 1 ns NTP MD simulation using version 3.3.2 on 4 or 6 processes
with double precision gromacs compiled by Intel compiler on x86_64
GNU/Linux, it was crashing at about 100 ps with a message:

---

Program mdrun_mpi_d, VERSION 3.3.2

Source code file: nsgrid.c, line: 226

Range checking error:

Explanation: During neighborsearching, we assign each particle to a grid

based on its coordinates. If your system contains collisions or parameter

errors that give particles very high velocities you might end up with some

coordinates being +-Infinity or NaN (not-a-number). Obviously, we cannot

put these on a grid, so this is usually where we detect those errors.

Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that the potential

energy seems reasonable before trying again.

Variable ci has value 4421. It should have been within [ 0 .. 4212 ]

---


But it can be finished when I use 1 or 2 processes, or use cut-off for
electrostatics instead of PME, or for a NVT system, or with single
precision gromacs. I have noticed the bug #167 on Bugzilla, and modified
routine stat.c, but it did no help, and actually I didn't write to XTC
file. Maybe, there are still bugs for double precision gromacs?


More likely the compiler. Please retry with gcc.




Thanks for any help.

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Re: [gmx-users] Range checking error

2007-11-26 Thread Yanzi Zhou

Thank you.
I recompiled the software with gcc, but my job still crashed at about 
170ps. I tried 1 ns simulation for 1PGB in water downloaded from 
http://www.dddc.ac.cn/embo04/practicals/9_14_1.htm, it can be finished. 
But when I tried to do NTP simulation of DPPC from the benchmarks of 
Gromacs, my job died on 6 processes with double precision gromacs.  I 
found the job crashed when I:

do NTP simulation for a large system, and
use PME
on more than two processors with double precision gromacs.


David van der Spoel wrote:

Yanzi Zhou wrote:

Dear Gromacs-Users,

Can anybody help me?

When I do 1 ns NTP MD simulation using version 3.3.2 on 4 or 6 processes
with double precision gromacs compiled by Intel compiler on x86_64
GNU/Linux, it was crashing at about 100 ps with a message:

---

Program mdrun_mpi_d, VERSION 3.3.2

Source code file: nsgrid.c, line: 226

Range checking error:

Explanation: During neighborsearching, we assign each particle to a grid

based on its coordinates. If your system contains collisions or 
parameter


errors that give particles very high velocities you might end up with 
some


coordinates being +-Infinity or NaN (not-a-number). Obviously, we cannot

put these on a grid, so this is usually where we detect those errors.

Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that the 
potential


energy seems reasonable before trying again.

Variable ci has value 4421. It should have been within [ 0 .. 4212 ]

---


But it can be finished when I use 1 or 2 processes, or use cut-off for
electrostatics instead of PME, or for a NVT system, or with single
precision gromacs. I have noticed the bug #167 on Bugzilla, and modified
routine stat.c, but it did no help, and actually I didn't write to XTC
file. Maybe, there are still bugs for double precision gromacs?


More likely the compiler. Please retry with gcc.




Thanks for any help.

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Re: [gmx-users] Confusion Regarding Vacuum

2007-11-26 Thread Mark Abraham

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Dear All,
I am a bit confused regarding  Vacuum. I wanted to do EM in Vacuum. I
think I can proceed either of the below...

1) I create a box (editconf) and place a molecule with out solvent.
2) Never create a box, then proceed other steps as usual like EM etc.

Can we call 2nd option also a vacuum and what is more appropriate?


A simulation in vacuo requires that you don't put a solvent in.
A simulation with PBC requires that you choose the appropriate pbc 
option in your .mdp file, and also choose a sensible box size, e.g. with 
editconf.


These two are independent choices.

Mark
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[gmx-users] CNT Grompp errors and Force Field modifications

2007-11-26 Thread Christopher Stiles
Ok I am trying to use the GROMOS96 43a1 force field to run a simulation of a
finite CNT. I believe I have figured out how this force field can be
modified. I have made the following additions to the respective 43a1 force
field files and placed them in the root directory of the simulation:

 

#

***

ffG43a1bon.itp

***

#define gb_48 0.142100  4.7890e+06

; C -   C

 

#define ga_47   120.00  397.48

; C  - C - C

 

***

ffG43a1.rtp

***

[ UNK ]

 [ atoms ]

  

 [ bonds ]

 C C   gb_48

 [ angles ]

C C C ga_47

 [ impropers ]

C C C 0 ga_1

 

***

ffG43a1.n2t

***

C C 1  C
; CNT Carbon with one bond

C C 2  C C :
CNT double bonded Carbon

#

 

Note I also made the following change to ffG43a1bon.itp (the original line
was):

#define gd_1180.000   5.86  2

; -C-C- 1.4

Now it is:

#define gd_1167.360   5.86  2

; -C-C- 1.4

 

I still get the following errors when I run grompp(here is the first 10):

*

WARNING 1 [file SWNT_6_6_144.top, line 167]:

  No default Bond types, using zeroes

WARNING 2 [file SWNT_6_6_144.top, line 167]:

  No default Bond types for perturbed atoms, using normal values

WARNING 3 [file SWNT_6_6_144.top, line 168]:

  No default Bond types, using zeroes

WARNING 4 [file SWNT_6_6_144.top, line 168]:

  No default Bond types for perturbed atoms, using normal values

WARNING 5 [file SWNT_6_6_144.top, line 169]:

  No default Bond types, using zeroes

WARNING 6 [file SWNT_6_6_144.top, line 169]:

  No default Bond types for perturbed atoms, using normal values

WARNING 7 [file SWNT_6_6_144.top, line 170]:

  No default Bond types, using zeroes

WARNING 8 [file SWNT_6_6_144.top, line 170]:

  No default Bond types for perturbed atoms, using normal values

WARNING 9 [file SWNT_6_6_144.top, line 171]:

  No default Bond types, using zeroes

WARNING 10 [file SWNT_6_6_144.top, line 171]:

  No default Bond types for perturbed atoms, using normal values

*

 

At http://cs86.com/CNSE/CNT_FFOpt0.zip a zip file with all the files I use
can be obtained, and the grompp command I use is:

 

grompp -f md_200k.mdp -c SWNT_6_6_144_b4em.gro -p SWNT_6_6_144.top -maxwarn
10 -pp

 

Also note I am working off the modifications I made to the Gromacs FF and
they are as follows:

 

*

ffgmx.n2t and add the following 2 lines:

 

C C 1 C ; CNT Carbon with one bond

C C 2 C C ; CNT double bonded Carbon

 

 

ffgmxbon.itp

 

add the following line to it:

*** To be very clear about this the first two lines are just telling what
section to add it to in the file and what the units of that addition
reprsent.***

 

#

[ bondtypes ]

; i j func b0 kb

C C 1 0.14210 478900.

#

[ angletypes ]

; i j k func th0 cth

C C C 1 120.000 397.480

#

[ dihedraltypes ]

; i l func q0 cq

C C 1 0.000 167.360

#

*

 

Thank you very much for your help!

 

~Christopher Stiles 
College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering (CNSE)
State University of New York, Albany, New York 12203, USA

 

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Re: [gmx-users] Range checking error

2007-11-26 Thread Mark Abraham

Yanzi Zhou wrote:

Thank you.
I recompiled the software with gcc, but my job still crashed at about 
170ps. I tried 1 ns simulation for 1PGB in water downloaded from 
http://www.dddc.ac.cn/embo04/practicals/9_14_1.htm, it can be finished. 
But when I tried to do NTP simulation of DPPC from the benchmarks of 
Gromacs, my job died on 6 processes with double precision gromacs.  I 
found the job crashed when I:

do NTP simulation for a large system, and
use PME
on more than two processors with double precision gromacs.


Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that the 
potential


energy seems reasonable before trying again.


What have you done to check that your system preparation protocol is 
reasonable?


Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] Range checking error

2007-11-26 Thread Yanzi Zhou
I did MD simulation for lipid. I downloaded the pre-equilibrated 
structure and parameters from 
http://moose.bio.ucalgary.ca/index.php?page=Structures_and_Topologies. I 
can do 5 ns NTP simulation with single precision, but it can't go on 
with double precision.
I also tried the DPPC from the benchmarks of Gromacs. I first did the 
NTV simulation for 500 ps, and then do NTP simulation using PME, but 
crashed.



Mark Abraham wrote:

Yanzi Zhou wrote:

Thank you.
I recompiled the software with gcc, but my job still crashed at about 
170ps. I tried 1 ns simulation for 1PGB in water downloaded from 
http://www.dddc.ac.cn/embo04/practicals/9_14_1.htm, it can be 
finished. But when I tried to do NTP simulation of DPPC from the 
benchmarks of Gromacs, my job died on 6 processes with double 
precision gromacs.  I found the job crashed when I:

do NTP simulation for a large system, and
use PME
on more than two processors with double precision gromacs.


Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that the 
potential


energy seems reasonable before trying again.


What have you done to check that your system preparation protocol is 
reasonable?


Mark
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[gmx-users] how to solve this broken trjactory

2007-11-26 Thread Belquis Mothana
Hello all,

I am wondering if you can help me out with this trouble. I had a full disk
space but my calculations finished as I can see from the log file. Several
calculation continued to run and I freed some space and the calculation
are still running. I tried to analysis the trjactory to see how the
calculation is doing..but trjconv and gmxcheck gives me this error:

Program trjconv, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: trnio.c, line: 66

File input/output error:
Can not determine precision of trn file


Please help me out as I need to analyze these trjactories as they have
been running for 4 weeks.

thank you

Belquis Mothana

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[gmx-users] pdb2gmx error

2007-11-26 Thread Tawhid Ezaz
Hi,

I have just started to learn gromacs. I am facing a problem to make topology 
file of a myoglobin. I got the pdb file from the csc tutorial.

When i am running the pdb2gmx with

pdb2gmx -f conf.pdb -p topol.top

i get the message, HEME148 CAB1428   0.569
 HEME148 CAC1437   0.562   0.820
N-terminus: NH3+
C-terminus: COO-
Now there are 148 residues with 1451 atoms
---
Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 570

Fatal error:
atom N not found in residue 1ACE while combining tdb and rtp
---

I was using 43a1 force field (0), {but none of them works}.

i read some previous post and got the idea that there should be a N atom with 
should be linked with ACE, but my conf.pdb files does not have any. I have 
topol.top file from the tutorial but didn't show how I can generate that.

I am a totally newbie, thus I am wondering what should I do. Which file I 
should correct to get rid of those? Do I need to know the bonding of every atom 
in the molecule for that?

Thanks in advance

Tawhid


 

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Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx error

2007-11-26 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Quoting Tawhid Ezaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 I have just started to learn gromacs. I am facing a problem to make topology
 file of a myoglobin. I got the pdb file from the csc tutorial.

 When i am running the pdb2gmx with

 pdb2gmx -f conf.pdb -p topol.top

 i get the message, HEME148 CAB1428   0.569
  HEME148 CAC1437   0.562   0.820
 N-terminus: NH3+
 C-terminus: COO-
 Now there are 148 residues with 1451 atoms
 ---
 Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
 Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 570

 Fatal error:
 atom N not found in residue 1ACE while combining tdb and rtp
 ---

 I was using 43a1 force field (0), {but none of them works}.

 i read some previous post and got the idea that there should be a N atom with
 should be linked with ACE, but my conf.pdb files does not have any. I have
 topol.top file from the tutorial but didn't show how I can generate that.

Use the -ter option with pdb2gmx, and select 'none' when prompted.  That way,
pdb2gmx does not look for an N-terminal nitrogen (which is obviously absent in
an acetyl group).

-Justin


 I am a totally newbie, thus I am wondering what should I do. Which file I
 should correct to get rid of those? Do I need to know the bonding of every
 atom in the molecule for that?

 Thanks in advance

 Tawhid










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Graduate Research Assistant
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
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[gmx-users] Re:Moleculetype SOL contains no atoms

2007-11-26 Thread JMandumpal

  

The top file is 
#include ffgmx.itp
#include tip5P.itp

   
[ system ]
Pure water

   
[ molecules ]
SOL 258
-


The itp file is
[ moleculetype ]
; molname   nrexcl
SOL 2


 
[ atoms ]
; idat type res nr  residu name   at namecg nr   charge
#ifdef _FF_OPLS
   1 opls_1181SOL  OW 1   0
   2 opls_1191SOL  HW11   0.24
   3 opls_1191SOL  HW21   0.241
   4 opls_1201SOL  LP11  -0.241
   5 opls_1201SOL  LP21  -0.241


 
[ settles ]
; i funct   doh dhh
1   1   0.09572 0.15139


 
[ dummies3 ]
; The position of the dummy is computed as follows:
;
; The distance from OW to OL is 0.07 nm, the geometry is tetrahedral
; (109.47 deg)
; Therefore, a =3D b =3D 0.07 * cos (109.47/2) / | xOH1 + xOH2 |
;c =3D 0.07 * sin (109.47/2) / | xOH1 X xOH2 |
;   =20
;
; Using | xOH1 X xOH2 | =3D | xOH1 | | xOH2 | sin (H1-O-H2)
;   | xOH1 + xOH2 | =3D 2 | xOH1 | cos (H1-O-H2)
; Dummy pos x4 =3D x1 + a*x21 + b*x31 + c*(x21 X x31)


 
; Dummy fromfunct   a   b   c
4   1   2   3   4   -0.344908  -0.344908  -6.4437903493
5   1   2   3   4   -0.344908  -0.344908   6.4437903493


 
[ exclusions ]
1   2   3   4   5
2   1   3   4   5
3   1   2   4   5
4   1   2   3   5
5   1   2   3   4
#endif


Can anyone help me in this regard?


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Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx error

2007-11-26 Thread Tawhid Ezaz
Thanks a lot Justin. It worked really nice. 

now I am stuck with another problem. I need to add the Building block GTP and 
GDP in 43a1, as I need to get the topology of a tubulin monomer.  I got the 
file from a old post here. 

http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2005-May/015188.html

I copied and pasted it into my file, yet, as the structure doesn't match it 
gave several errors. 

is there any way to  fix this?

Thanks a lot for your help. 

Tawhid



- Original Message 
From: Justin A. Lemkul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:14:43 PM
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx error


Quoting Tawhid Ezaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi,

 I have just started to learn gromacs. I am facing a problem to make
 topology
 file of a myoglobin. I got the pdb file from the csc tutorial.

 When i am running the pdb2gmx with

 pdb2gmx -f conf.pdb -p topol.top

 i get the message, HEME148 CAB1428   0.569
  HEME148 CAC1437   0.562   0.820
 N-terminus: NH3+
 C-terminus: COO-
 Now there are 148 residues with 1451 atoms
 ---
 Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
 Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 570

 Fatal error:
 atom N not found in residue 1ACE while combining tdb and rtp
 ---

 I was using 43a1 force field (0), {but none of them works}.

 i read some previous post and got the idea that there should be a N
 atom with
 should be linked with ACE, but my conf.pdb files does not have any. I
 have
 topol.top file from the tutorial but didn't show how I can generate
 that.

Use the -ter option with pdb2gmx, and select 'none' when prompted.
  That way,
pdb2gmx does not look for an N-terminal nitrogen (which is obviously
 absent in
an acetyl group).

-Justin


 I am a totally newbie, thus I am wondering what should I do. Which
 file I
 should correct to get rid of those? Do I need to know the bonding of
 every
 atom in the molecule for that?

 Thanks in advance

 Tawhid










Justin A. Lemkul
Graduate Research Assistant
Department of Biochemistry
Virginia Tech
Blacksburg, VA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] | (540) 231-9080
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Re: [gmx-users] how to solve this broken trjactory

2007-11-26 Thread Mark Abraham

Belquis Mothana wrote:

Hello all,

I am wondering if you can help me out with this trouble. I had a full disk
space but my calculations finished as I can see from the log file. Several
calculation continued to run and I freed some space and the calculation
are still running. I tried to analysis the trjactory to see how the
calculation is doing..but trjconv and gmxcheck gives me this error:

Program trjconv, VERSION 3.3.1
Source code file: trnio.c, line: 66

File input/output error:
Can not determine precision of trn file


Please help me out as I need to analyze these trjactories as they have
been running for 4 weeks.


Well there's various lessons here. Whatever's been written to disk are 
the only resources you have. You can use gmxcheck to find out exactly 
what you have. Does the file have non-zero size? There may be some 
helpful information here http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Doing_Restarts


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Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx error

2007-11-26 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Quoting Tawhid Ezaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Thanks a lot Justin. It worked really nice.

 now I am stuck with another problem. I need to add the Building block GTP and
 GDP in 43a1, as I need to get the topology of a tubulin monomer.  I got the
 file from a old post here.

 http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2005-May/015188.html

 I copied and pasted it into my file, yet, as the structure doesn't match it
 gave several errors.

 is there any way to  fix this?

That depends entirely upon what your errors are and what you're trying to do. 
Please provide more details.

-Justin


 Thanks a lot for your help.

 Tawhid



 - Original Message 
 From: Justin A. Lemkul [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:14:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [gmx-users] pdb2gmx error


 Quoting Tawhid Ezaz [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Hi,
 
  I have just started to learn gromacs. I am facing a problem to make
  topology
  file of a myoglobin. I got the pdb file from the csc tutorial.
 
  When i am running the pdb2gmx with
 
  pdb2gmx -f conf.pdb -p topol.top
 
  i get the message, HEME148 CAB1428   0.569
   HEME148 CAC1437   0.562   0.820
  N-terminus: NH3+
  C-terminus: COO-
  Now there are 148 residues with 1451 atoms
  ---
  Program pdb2gmx, VERSION 3.3.1
  Source code file: pdb2top.c, line: 570
 
  Fatal error:
  atom N not found in residue 1ACE while combining tdb and rtp
  ---
 
  I was using 43a1 force field (0), {but none of them works}.
 
  i read some previous post and got the idea that there should be a N
  atom with
  should be linked with ACE, but my conf.pdb files does not have any. I
  have
  topol.top file from the tutorial but didn't show how I can generate
  that.

 Use the -ter option with pdb2gmx, and select 'none' when prompted.
   That way,
 pdb2gmx does not look for an N-terminal nitrogen (which is obviously
  absent in
 an acetyl group).

 -Justin

 
  I am a totally newbie, thus I am wondering what should I do. Which
  file I
  should correct to get rid of those? Do I need to know the bonding of
  every
  atom in the molecule for that?
 
  Thanks in advance
 
  Tawhid
 
 
 
 
 



 

 Justin A. Lemkul
 Graduate Research Assistant
 Department of Biochemistry
 Virginia Tech
 Blacksburg, VA
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Re: [gmx-users] [Fwd: Semiisotropic pressure coupling comm_grps (VCM)]

2007-11-26 Thread Alok

Dear Xavier,

Thanks a lot for your reply. I will follow  your suggestions.

Best Regards,
Alok
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Subject: Re: [gmx-users] [Fwd: Semiisotropic pressure coupling comm_grps 
(VCM)]





I have two basic questions regarding membrane protein simulation. First
regarding Semiisotropic pressure coupling (NPAT) and second regarding
comm_grpp (VCM).

1) If I want to use NPAT ensemble (x/y dimensions of bilayer to be
fixed) then is following the correct way to define?

Pcoupl   =  Berendsen
Pcoupltype=  semiisotropic
tau_p =   2.0 2.0
compressibility =   04.5e-5
ref_p =  1.0  1.0

In some of the previous mails on same topic ref_p was defined as 0.0
1.0 in place of 1.0   1.0 even they was using compressibility 0.0
4.5e-5, that's why I am confuse. Do I have to take ref_p = 1.0   1.0 or
 0.0   1.0 when I am using compressibility 0.0   4.5e-5 (NPAT). I think
if I am taking compressibility value 0 then it doesn't matter what value
I have taken for ref_p, but I want to confirm it.


I would guess that ref_p = 1.0 1.0 and ref_p = 0.0 1.0 would give
the result since you define compressibility = 0.0 4.5e-05

you can check that by running small trajectories ...


2) I want to remove center of mass translation so in following which one
is better?

a)comm_mode=  Linear
   nstcomm   =  1
   comm_grps  =  Protein_POP ; (both protein and
lipid are together)

b)comm_mode=  Linear
   nstcomm   =  1
   comm_grps  =  Protein POP ; (protein and
lipid separately)


It is better to remove the COM of both bilayer (plus protein) and the
aqueous phase:
comm_grps = Protein_POP SOL

XAvier




Thanks a lot

Best Regards,
Alok

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[gmx-users] creating .tpr file

2007-11-26 Thread JMandumpal
 Dear Gromacs users, 


Using the command, grompp -f em.mdp -p topol.top -c out.gro -o pr.tpr, I wanted 
to build up tpr file for the simulation, but failed to do so.

I received the error message :

Moleculetype SOL contains no atoms.

I paste my top files and .itp file below


1. TOP FILE
**

#include ffgmx.itp
#include tip5P.itp

[ system ]
Pure water

[ molecules ]
SOL 258
-


The itp file is
[ moleculetype ]
; molname   nrexcl
SOL 2

[ atoms ]
; idat type res nr  residu name   at namecg nr   charge
#ifdef _FF_OPLS
1 opls_1181SOL  OW 1   0
2 opls_1191SOL  HW11   0.24
3 opls_1191SOL  HW21   0.241
4 opls_1201SOL  LP11  -0.241
5 opls_1201SOL  LP21  -0.241

[ settles ]
; i funct   doh dhh
1   1   0.09572 0.15139

[ dummies3 ]
; The position of the dummy is computed as follows:
;
; The distance from OW to OL is 0.07 nm, the geometry is tetrahedral
; (109.47 deg)
; Therefore, a =3D b =3D 0.07 * cos (109.47/2) / | xOH1 + xOH2 |
;c =3D 0.07 * sin (109.47/2) / | xOH1 X xOH2 |
;   =20
;
; Using | xOH1 X xOH2 | =3D | xOH1 | | xOH2 | sin (H1-O-H2)
;   | xOH1 + xOH2 | =3D 2 | xOH1 | cos (H1-O-H2)
; Dummy pos x4 =3D x1 + a*x21 + b*x31 + c*(x21 X x31)

; Dummy fromfunct   a   b   c
4   1   2   3   4   -0.344908  -0.344908  -6.4437903493
5   1   2   3   4   -0.344908  -0.344908   6.4437903493

[ exclusions ]
1   2   3   4   5
2   1   3   4   5
3   1   2   4   5
4   1   2   3   5
5   1   2   3   4
#endif


Can anyone help me in this regard?


Jestin Mandumpal
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