[gmx-users] Membrane protein MD Simulation

2007-12-15 Thread Behnoush Zare
Dear Yanzi,
Thank you for your swift response. I did all you wrote to me. Also I include 
ffG43a1 forcefield in the lipid.itp file and then include the lipid.itp file in 
the protein.top at line 12 as forcefield parameter. When I run grompp the 
following error appeared:

Fatal erroe; Invalid order for directive moleculetype, file "protein.top",  
line 14

What is this error and what do I have to do?
Thank you in advance for your valuable aid.

Best regards, 

Behnoush Zare 
Iran University of Medical Sciences, 
Department of Pharmacology
 

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Dear Yanzi zhou, 

I am a new gromacs user and reading your message sent by gmx-users in my mail 
box I found that you have worked on lipid bilayer simulation. My outlook 
express is out of work so I had to mail to you directly. 
Sorry about I don’t have any response to your question my problem is a 
protein-lipid bilayer simulation. 
I am trying to perform MD Simulation on a membrane protein within the lipid 
bilayer, popc. I have the .pdb and the .top file of the protein. Also I have 
got the popc.pdb, popc.itp and lipid.itp files from the site of Dr. Tieleman at 
the Calgary University. I have visited the www.wiki.gromacs.org  site, 
specially the lecture of Gromacs tutorial for membrane protein simulations by 
Dr. Phil Biggin, but that is not enough to running the simulation. For example 
after creating the pdb file including protein and popc what is the top file to 
running grompp. 
Would you please kindly provide me the step by step method for performing MD 
Simulation on a protein within lipid bilayer. 
Thank you in advance for your valuable help. I am looking forward to 
hearing from you. 
  

Best regards, 
Behnoush Zare 
Iran University of Medical Sciences, 
Department of Pharmacology 


Hello, Behnoush: 
I'm glad to help you though I'm a green hand myself. 
You should create the topology file for lipids by yourself. 

For example, if you do simulation for lipids only, first, copy lipid.itp 
and popc.itp to the ~/GROMACS/share/top/, then if you have included 
other force field in your top file, such as ffgmx.itp, open lipid.itp, 
delete the two lines: 
[ defaults ] 
1   1 
and then prepare the top file for lipids by yourself. Following is an 
example for POPE: 

; 
; 
; Include forcefield parameters 
# include "ffgmx.itp" 
# include "lipid.itp" 

 

; Include water topology 
#include "spc.itp" 

 

; Include topology for lipids 
#include "pope.itp" 

 

[ system ] 
; Name 
POPE in water 

 

[ molecules ] 
; Compound#mols 
POPE  340 
SOL   6729 

If you do simulation for lipids and protein, first, you can create the 
top file for protein using pdb2gmx, then in the top file, you may add 
such lines at the bottom: 

 

; Include topology for lipids 
#include "pope.itp" 

 

[ system ] 
; Name 
Protein in POPE 

 

[ molecules ] 
; Compound#mols 
Protein  1 
POPE  340 
SOL   6729 

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[gmx-users] GROMACS and GPU (and PS3)

2007-12-15 Thread Vasilii Artyukhov
Hi everybody,

I wonder if GROMACS will eventually support running on the graphics cards,
especially since there have been several announcements of extremely powerful
cards like AMD's FireStream recently. I know that the question has
repeatedly been asked some time ago, but hey, the Stanford guys from [EMAIL 
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manage to adapt GROMACS for GPUs, and they don't seem to regret it :)

I'd also like to know if anyone has actually tried running GROMACS on
PlayStation 3, seems like this Cell CPU could perform really well for
moderately sized systems (so that you don't run into the 512 MB memory
limitation)...


Best regards,
Vasilii
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Re: [gmx-users] rtp

2007-12-15 Thread Xavier Periole

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:27:10 -0800
 Arthur Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dear Jayant,

I might be wrong, but I think the original gmx force field that you  are 
referring to has been deprecated.


This is correct. It is better to use the OPLS FF if you like to include
hydrogens in your description of the protein. You also have the option
to run with the GROMOS FF and then add the proton with "protonate".

XAvier


Best wishes,
Art

On Dec 14, 2007, at 1:44 PM, jayant_jacques wrote:


Hi!
I am attempting to simulate a protein with a modified amino acid  
using the Gromacs force field with hydrogens for NMR. I have built  
the RTP and TOP files using PRODRG.
I need to know what is the rtp file? relevant to the above force  
field such that I can append my rtp file. Is it the ffgmx2.rtp or   
ffgmx.rtp?

Thanks
Jayant James
Jayasundar Jayant James
Postdoc,
Department of Veterinary and Comparative Anatomy, Pharmacology and  
Physiology(VCAPP), Washington state university, Pullman 99164-6520,  
USA.

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Re: [gmx-users] Membrane protein MD Simulation

2007-12-15 Thread Mark Abraham

Behnoush Zare wrote:

Dear Yanzi,
Thank you for your swift response. I did all you wrote to me. Also I include 
ffG43a1 forcefield in the lipid.itp file and then include the lipid.itp file in 
the protein.top at line 12 as forcefield parameter. When I run grompp the 
following error appeared:


Be careful mixing two force fields unless you know what you are doing, 
i.e. other people have published with this mix. See 
http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Force_Fields#Usage



Fatal erroe; Invalid order for directive moleculetype, file "protein.top",  
line 14

What is this error and what do I have to do?


This means the directives in the .top file (possibly via an .itp 
#include) are out of order. Directives look like "[ moleculetype ]". See 
chapter five of the GROMACS manual for the order in which they need to 
appear.


Mark
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RE: [gmx-users] problem with npt

2007-12-15 Thread pragya chohan


I wrote yes to generate velocity. Can that be a reason for the problem? Since I 
am doing membrane simulation it is advised to do production runs in npt thats 
the only other difference.

> Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:03:27 +1100
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> Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem with npt
> 
> pragya chohan wrote:
> > 
> > thanks for your help.
> > My system ran fine for 250 ps but later the bilayer deformed very much.
> 
> What was your system preparation protocol - i.e. minimization and 
> equilibration? See 
> http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Steps_to_Perform_a_Simulation
> 
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RE: [gmx-users] problem with npt

2007-12-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Quoting pragya chohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
>
> I wrote yes to generate velocity. Can that be a reason for the problem? Since
> I am doing membrane simulation it is advised to do production runs in npt
> thats the only other difference.

I think what Mark was asking for was a bit more detail on how you put your
system together.  It would be helpful to know (step by step) what you did, as
that may highlight a problem.  Also, what do you define as "deformed very
much?"  Some fluctuations are to be expected, and 250 ps is a relatively short
time frame.  In some of my bilayer simulations, the lipids look quite strange
under NVT, but after a nanosecond or two or NPT they even out and behave
normally.

-Justin

> 
> > Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:03:27 +1100
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> > Subject: Re: [gmx-users] problem with npt
> >
> > pragya chohan wrote:
> > >
> > > thanks for your help.
> > > My system ran fine for 250 ps but later the bilayer deformed very much.
> >
> > What was your system preparation protocol - i.e. minimization and
> > equilibration? See
> > http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Steps_to_Perform_a_Simulation
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RE: [gmx-users] problem with npt

2007-12-15 Thread pragya chohan

i started with the lipid coordinates from peter tieleman and removed the water. 
then i added water by genbox.
I did energy minimization followed by position restrain, which I removed 
gradually. all of it was done under npt. I carried out npt for 250 ps. During 
the next 250 ps npt run the bilayers separated and deformed. > Date: Sat, 15 
Dec 2007 09:53:06 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: gmx-users@gromacs.org> 
Subject: RE: [gmx-users] problem with npt> > Quoting pragya chohan <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>:> > >> >> > I wrote yes to generate velocity. Can that be a reason 
for the problem? Since> > I am doing membrane simulation it is advised to do 
production runs in npt> > thats the only other difference.> > I think what Mark 
was asking for was a bit more detail on how you put your> system together. It 
would be helpful to know (step by step) what you did, as> that may highlight a 
problem. Also, what do you define as "deformed very> much?" Some fluctuations 
are to be expected, and 250 ps is a relatively short> time frame. In some of my 
bilayer simulations, the lipids look quite strange> under NVT, but after a 
nanosecond or two or NPT they even out and behave> normally.> > -Justin> > > 
> > > Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:03:27 
+1100> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: gmx-users@gromacs.org> > > Subject: 
Re: [gmx-users] problem with npt> > >> > > pragya chohan wrote:> > > >> > > > 
thanks for your help.> > > > My system ran fine for 250 ps but later the 
bilayer deformed very much.> > >> > > What was your system preparation protocol 
- i.e. minimization and> > > equilibration? See> > > 
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Re: [gmx-users] Membrane protein MD Simulation

2007-12-15 Thread Yanzi Zhou

Dear Behnoush:
I think it is because the lipid.itp is a mixture of lipid and ffgmx 
parameters. Different force field uses different labels for molecules 
and atoms. Try using ffgmx instead of ffg43a1, and find out if  the 
problem will be resolved.

Sincerely, Yanzi
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[gmx-users] coupling to water bath

2007-12-15 Thread pragya chohan

Dear Users
I have a system in of protein with in bound chlorine ion. I also added Na ion 
to the system to neutralize charge on system. I have to couple the system to 
water bath. can i couple protein chlorine and Na together and solvent 
separately? or should i couple protein and chlorine together and solvent and na 
together?
I the later case -n option would take in 2 index files. then what should I do?
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Re: [gmx-users] coupling to water bath

2007-12-15 Thread Justin A. Lemkul
Quoting pragya chohan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

>
> Dear Users
> I have a system in of protein with in bound chlorine ion. I also added Na ion
> to the system to neutralize charge on system. I have to couple the system to
> water bath. can i couple protein chlorine and Na together and solvent
> separately? or should i couple protein and chlorine together and solvent and
> na together?

You could do either.  Try make_ndx  -h.  But generally, when I simulate a
protein in water and ions, I simply couple the whole system to the same bath. 
See here:

http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Thermostats

> I the later case -n option would take in 2 index files. then what should I
> do?

Specify both groups within the same index file.  Again, make_ndx -h.  Type
'help' for some examples.

-Justin

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[gmx-users] determining of Kn and Posn in Umbrella sampling

2007-12-15 Thread Farzad Molani
Hi dear
I want to compute PMF between two amine molecoules by umbrella sampling but I 
do'nt know Kn and Posn in umbrella samplig how are determining.
if you are having points please help me.
Thanks in advance

   
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