Re: [gmx-users] Re: Energy Drift in Gromacs 4.0

2009-03-12 Thread David van der Spoel

Ilya Chorny wrote:
Ok, I got it. Set electrostatics to PME-switch. Made rcoulomb-switch .1 
less than rcoulomb and set rlist accordingly and now I am conserving 
energy. Yipee!!!


It did not make sense to me that the system had to be fully relaxed to 
conserve energy. It should conserve energy energy as long as it has been 
minimized and has no major clashes. 

This is correct, provided T and P coupling are turned off.



Thanks,

Ilya


On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:38 PM, Ilya Chorny icho...@gmail.com 
mailto:icho...@gmail.com wrote:


If I plot the K.E(t) and P.E.(t) they are both going down. In an NVE
simulation they should counter balance. I am leaking K.E. somewhere.
I reran with a relaxed P.E(t) and saw the same behavior.  This is
happening both at 2 and 4 fs so its not a time step issue. Any
thoughts?  I thought it might be COM removal so I turned it off to
no avail. 


Any chance one of the Gromacs people can give me the mdp file from
the DHFR simulation in the 4.0 paper. 



On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Mark Abraham
mark.abra...@anu.edu.au mailto:mark.abra...@anu.edu.au wrote:

Ilya Chorny wrote:

Forgot column labels on energies.
   
Average   RMSD Fluct.  Drift  Tot-Drift
2 fs time step Total Energy46497.2  
 36445.6 2630.7  -148.833-148833
4 fs time step Total Energy41580.8  
 37693.42856.08  -130.198-130198


On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 7:17 PM, Ilya Chorny
icho...@gmail.com mailto:icho...@gmail.com
mailto:icho...@gmail.com mailto:icho...@gmail.com wrote:

   Hello All,

   I am trying to run some calibration calculations with 2/4
fs time
   steps. I am trying to reproduce the results in the
Gromacs 4.0 paper
   on a protein/water (not the same protein) system with
~100K atoms. I
   ran 1 ns simulation in the NVE ensemble. My mdp params
are shown
   below. Topolgy was created using -vsite h. My system has
218441
   degrees of freedom according to GMXDUMP. My P.E. energy
is ~ -1E5
   and has not full relaxed after 1ns but is close.
   2 fs time step Total Energy46497.2  
 36445.62630.7   -148.833-148833
   4 fs time step Total Energy41580.8  
 37693.4   2856.08   -130.198-130198


   Drift (kt/ns) 2fs/4fs = .34/.29

   The drift seems to be much larger for both the 2fs and
4fs time
   steps then in the paper. Do I have a clear bug in my
params? Should
   I wait till the system fully relaxes before doing the
drift calculation?


You should definitely equilibrate the system before trying to
measure energy drift. I suggest doing so in NPT to fix your
density and temperature, then switching to NVE, wait a bit, and
only then start to collect your data.

   coulombtype  = PME
   rcoulomb = 1.0

   fourierspacing   = 0.12
   ; FFT grid size, when a value is 0 fourierspacing will be
used
   fourier_nx   = 0
   fourier_ny   = 0
   fourier_nz   = 0
   ; EWALD/PME/PPPM parameters
   pme_order= 4
   ewald_rtol   = 1.e-04


I would think the ewald_rtol value used in the paper was 1e-5,
but it is unfortunately not stated. The different numbers will
lead to different costs and accuracies for the direct and FFT
parts of the PME algorithm.

rcoulomb, fourier_whatever, pme_order and ewald_rtol are all
relevant if you're trying to reproduce results.

Mark
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Re: [gmx-users] viscosity calculation using g_energy (3.3.3)

2009-03-12 Thread David van der Spoel

JMandumpal wrote:

Dear GROMACS users,

  As explained in the manual ( page 139, section 
6.5/3.3.3) I would like to calculate viscosity of my system ( water) 
using g_energy. I opted(40  Mu-X ) from the g-energy selection. But 
the unit written on the Y axis of the corresponding xvg file is  (kJ 
mol\S-1\N). I think GROMACS uses SI unit , which is Pa-Second in the 
case of viscosity. Then why is this discrepancy.? Or did I make any mistake?


Mu is the dipole (in Debye). The units of these things are incorrect for 
everything that is not an energy. This will be fixed in the next gmx 
version. g_energy -h tells you what to do:


g_energy -f ener -vis viscosity



--I give the command on the prompt:

g-energy -f ener.edr - o viscosity.xvg ;
then chose option 40 ( Mu-X).

system details:
**
My system consists of 500 TIP4P water molecules, ran for 3.5 nanoseconds 
at 150K, the ensemble is NPT. The version I am using is 3.3.3





regards,
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[gmx-users] Questions about urea.itp

2009-03-12 Thread Lee Soin
Hello!
Can the GROMACS topology file urea.itp be used with the OPLS force field?
In urea.itp there are two sets of parameters, separated by #ifdef
directives. Which set should be used?
Thanks!

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Re: [gmx-users] Questions about urea.itp

2009-03-12 Thread David van der Spoel

Lee Soin wrote:

Hello!
Can the GROMACS topology file urea.itp be used with the OPLS force field?
In urea.itp there are two sets of parameters, separated by #ifdef 
directives. Which set should be used?

Neither.

Check the literature.


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Re: [gmx-users] Broken trr-file

2009-03-12 Thread Hansjoerg Jerabek

Mark Abraham wrote:

Justin A. Lemkul wrote:



Hansjoerg Jerabek wrote:

Dear Mark!

At first: thanks for your reply.

The log file has been witten correctly, and gmxcheck gives me the 
following warning:


   Checking file ketamine.t2.trr
   trn version: GMX_trn_file (double precision)
   Reading frame   0 time 43500.000 # Atoms  25400
   Reading frame   4 time 43520.000   Warning at frame 4: 
coordinates for atom 21839 are large (3.04738e+35)
   Warning at frame 4: coordinates for atom 21839 are large 
(2.16053e+185)


   ---
   Program gmxcheck_d, VERSION 4.0.3
   Source code file: trnio.c, line: 66

   File input/output error:
   Can not determine precision of trn file
   ---

Is it somehow possible to manually remove the corrupt frame from the 
binary trr-file?
I'm asking this because I can't afford to re-run the simulation, 
since it would take about 3 weeks.




trjconv-b 0 -e 3

You will have to sacrifice everything after frame 3 then (since frame 
4 is corrupted).  Judging by the timeframe of the simulation, that is 
probably a substantial amount of data.  Perhaps you can restart from 
a checkpoint file, depending on how often those were written, to 
collect the rest of your data.


... and next time, plan to save yourself data suitable for a restart 
every few compute hours or so!


There's some general information here, but the detail was written for 
GROMACS 3.3.x. http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Doing_Restarts


Mark


... thank you for your advices. since it was impossible to edit the 
trr-file with any of the gromacs application, I used a hex-editor and a 
small c++-application to cut the broken frames out.


best regards
hansjoerg

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Re: Re: [gmx-users] viscosity calculation using g_energy (3.3.3)

2009-03-12 Thread JMandumpal
David,

Thanks for the quick reply.

Indeed I did  as what you suggested- g_energy -f water.edr -vis test.xvg 

The output file created includes three columns.

1. time ( ps) 2. shear viscosity (3) I assume it is bulk viscosity.

It seems, the unit given is cp. ( 1cp= 1* 10¯3 Pascal Second).

The bulk viscosity of water at 300 K is approximately 0.7 cp. But the value ( 
Bulk viscosity) I got from the program gives me 100 pa-s, an increase of two 
order of magnitude. I wonder whether I have done anything wrong while 
specifying the frequency of saving energy file.

I have saved the energy file in every 2ps. Isn´t that enough for a simple 
system like water? OR should I have to save trajectories in every 5fs as 
suggested by one in a previous post.

I post the first 20 lines of the output file.

---

# This file was created Thu Mar 12 16:20:09 2009
# by the following command:
# g_energy -f water.edr -vis test.xvg 
#
# g_energy is part of G R O M A C S:
#
# GROup of MAchos and Cynical Suckers
#
@title Bulk Viscosity
@xaxis  label Time (ps)
@yaxis  label \8h\4 (cp)
@TYPE xy
@ view 0.15, 0.15, 0.75, 0.85
@ legend on
@ legend box on
@ legend loctype view
@ legend 0.78, 0.8
@ legend length 2
@ s0 legend Shear
@ s1 legend Bulk
   1.99203  9.6633 96.3893
   3.98406 11.1625 98.1365
5.9761 12.6631  99.838
   7.96813 13.4652 101.366
   9.96016 13.7012 100.249
-


regards,
Jes

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 David van der Spoel wrote :
JMandumpal wrote:
Dear GROMACS users,

   As explained in the manual ( page 139, section 
 6.5/3.3.3) I would like to calculate viscosity of my system ( water) using 
 g_energy. I opted(40  Mu-X ) from the g-energy selection. But the unit 
 written on the Y axis of the corresponding xvg file is  (kJ mol\S-1\N). I 
 think GROMACS uses SI unit , which is Pa-Second in the case of viscosity. 
 Then why is this discrepancy.? Or did I make any mistake?

Mu is the dipole (in Debye). The units of these things are incorrect for 
everything that is not an energy. This will be fixed in the next gmx version. 
g_energy -h tells you what to do:

g_energy -f ener -vis viscosity


--I give the command on the prompt:

g-energy -f ener.edr - o viscosity.xvg ;
then chose option 40 ( Mu-X).

system details:
**
My system consists of 500 TIP4P water molecules, ran for 3.5 nanoseconds at 
150K, the ensemble is NPT. The version I am using is 3.3.3
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[gmx-users] about the restart of the mdrun

2009-03-12 Thread sheerychen
Hello, I have a problem when I restrat of mdrun (Gromacs 4.0) using the
following command:
mdrun -deffnm Asp -cpi -append.

The errors like this:

eading checkpoint file Asp_md.cpt generated: Wed Mar 11 19:16:24 2009

  Build time mismatch,
current program: Thu Mar  5 17:52:53 CET 2009
checkpoint file: Fri Jan 30 17:05:24 CET 2009

  #PP-nodes mismatch,
current program: 2
checkpoint file: 1

Gromacs binary or parallel settings not identical to previous run.
Continuation still works, but is not guaranteed to be binary identical.


---
Program mdrun, VERSION 4.0.3
Source code file: checkpoint.c, line: 1238

Fatal error:
Truncation of file Asp_md.trr failed.
---

Anybody has some suggestions?
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[gmx-users] Re: Energy Drift in Gromacs 4.0

2009-03-12 Thread Luca De Gaetani
Even if a system is not well equilibrated (but not so far from 
equilibrium) ,energy should be conserved in NVE ensemble.
Try to lower the nstlist from 10 to 1 i.e. renew every time the 
neighbourlist. In systems I have studied, that is the key that improve 
much more energy conservation. It works even without switching of VdW 
potential.


Luca Dre Gaetani


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Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:59:11 +1100
From: Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Re: Energy Drift in Gromacs 4.0
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Ilya Chorny wrote:
  
If I plot the K.E(t) and P.E.(t) they are both going down. In an NVE 
simulation they should counter balance. I am leaking K.E. somewhere. I 
reran with a relaxed P.E(t) and saw the same behavior.  This is 
happening both at 2 and 4 fs so its not a time step issue. Any thoughts? 
 I thought it might be COM removal so I turned it off to no avail. 



going down is seriously unhelpful. I told you you needed to 
equilibrate before measuring such things. If you want people to take 
your problem seriously, you'll need to announce that you have 
equilibrated and for how long and in what ensembles, etc. If you're 
having a problem, you need to demonstrate what areas you feel are not 
causing it. We're not your family doctor who will ask a pile of 
questions to find out the problem :-)


Mark
  


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[gmx-users] Karplus parameterization

2009-03-12 Thread XAvier Periole


Dears,

Anyone knows which parameterization of the Karplus equation
is implemented in g_chi ?

Best,
XAvier.


XAvier Periole
MD-group
University of Groningen
The Netherlands
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Re: [gmx-users] Karplus parameterization

2009-03-12 Thread David van der Spoel

XAvier Periole wrote:


Dears,

Anyone knows which parameterization of the Karplus equation
is implemented in g_chi ?


Hm, I'm surprised to see this isn't in the source code with a 
please_cite call. My bad, this is at least one of them.


@Article{ Vuister93,
  author =   G. W. Vuister and A. Bax,
  title =Quantitative {J} Correlation: A New Approach for
  Measuring Homonuclear Three-Bond
  {J(H$^N$-H$^{\alpha}$)} Coupling Constants in
  {$^{15}$N}-Enriched Proteins,
  journal =  BTjacs,
  year = 1993,
  volume =   115,
  pages =7772-
}
Smith, L.J., Sutcliffe, M.J., Redfield, C., and Dobson, C.M. 1991.
Analysis of φ and χ1 torsion angles for hen lysozyme in solution
from 1H NMR spin–spin coupling constants. Biochemistry, 30:
986–996.

@Article{ LSmith96,
  author =   L. J. Smith and K. A. Bolin and H. Schwalbe and
  M. W. Mac{A}rthur and J. M. Thornton and
  C. M. Dobson,
  title =Analysis of Main Chain Torsion Angles in Proteins:
  Prediction of {NMR} Coupling Constants for Native
  and Random Coil Conformations,
  journal =  BTjmb,
  year = 1996,
  volume =   255,
  pages =494-506
}




Best,
XAvier.


XAvier Periole
MD-group
University of Groningen
The Netherlands
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RE: [gmx-users] viscosity calculation using g_energy (3.3.3)

2009-03-12 Thread Berk Hess




Hi,

This is a very inefficient method for determining the viscosity.
Also you need really perfect pressure fluctuations: NVT, shifted potentials,
probably even double precision.
There was a mail about this recently.
There are better methods, have a look at:
http://dx.doi.org/10.1063/1.1421362

Berk


Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 07:39:52 +
From: jesb...@rediffmail.com
To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
Subject: Re: Re: [gmx-users] viscosity calculation using g_energy (3.3.3)
CC: 


David,



Thanks for the quick reply.



Indeed I did  as what you suggested- g_energy -f water.edr -vis test.xvg 



The output file created includes three columns.



1. time ( ps) 2. shear viscosity (3) I assume it is bulk viscosity.



It seems, the unit given is cp. ( 1cp= 1* 10¯3 Pascal Second).



The bulk viscosity of water at 300 K is approximately 0.7 cp. But the value ( 
Bulk viscosity) I got from the program gives me 100 pa-s, an increase of two 
order of magnitude. I wonder whether I have done anything wrong while 
specifying the frequency of saving energy file.



I have saved the energy file in every 2ps. Isn´t that enough for a simple 
system like water? OR should I have to save trajectories in every 5fs as 
suggested by one in a previous post.



I post the first 20 lines of the output file.



---



# This file was created Thu Mar 12 16:20:09 2009

# by the following command:

# g_energy -f water.edr -vis test.xvg 

#

# g_energy is part of G R O M A C S:

#

# GROup of MAchos and Cynical Suckers

#

@title Bulk Viscosity

@xaxis  label Time (ps)

@yaxis  label \8h\4 (cp)

@TYPE xy

@ view 0.15, 0.15, 0.75, 0.85

@ legend on

@ legend box on

@ legend loctype view

@ legend 0.78, 0.8

@ legend length 2

@ s0 legend Shear

@ s1 legend Bulk

   1.99203  9.6633 96.3893

   3.98406 11.1625 98.1365

5.9761 12.6631  99.838

   7.96813 13.4652 101.366

   9.96016 13.7012 100.249

-





regards,

Jes



On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 David van der Spoel wrote :

JMandumpal wrote:

Dear GROMACS users,



   As explained in the manual ( page 139, section 
 6.5/3.3.3) I would like to calculate viscosity of my system ( water) using 
 g_energy. I opted(40  Mu-X ) from the g-energy selection. But the unit 
 written on the Y axis of the corresponding xvg file is  (kJ mol\S-1\N). I 
 think GROMACS uses SI unit , which is Pa-Second in the case of viscosity. 
 Then why is this discrepancy.? Or did I make any mistake?



Mu is the dipole (in Debye). The units of these things are incorrect for 
everything that is not an energy. This will be fixed in the next gmx version. 
g_energy -h tells you what to do:



g_energy -f ener -vis viscosity





--I give the command on the prompt:



g-energy -f ener.edr - o viscosity.xvg ;

then chose option 40 ( Mu-X).



system details:

**

My system consists of 500 TIP4P water molecules, ran for 3.5 nanoseconds at 
150K, the ensemble is NPT. The version I am using is 3.3.3








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RE: [gmx-users] Re: Energy Drift in Gromacs 4.0

2009-03-12 Thread Berk Hess

Hi,

Everything depends completely on how much drift you are talking about.
There will always be energy drift, it is just a question how much.
In general shifted potentials will be cheaper (and lead to less energy drift)
than setting nstlist to 1, but for most purposes a bit of energy drift is no 
problem.

Berk

 Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 10:55:47 +0100
 From: degaet...@dcci.unipi.it
 To: gmx-users@gromacs.org
 Subject: [gmx-users] Re: Energy Drift in Gromacs 4.0
 
 Even if a system is not well equilibrated (but not so far from 
 equilibrium) ,energy should be conserved in NVE ensemble.
 Try to lower the nstlist from 10 to 1 i.e. renew every time the 
 neighbourlist. In systems I have studied, that is the key that improve 
 much more energy conservation. It works even without switching of VdW 
 potential.
 
 Luca Dre Gaetani
 
  Message: 1
  Date: Thu, 12 Mar 2009 13:59:11 +1100
  From: Mark Abraham mark.abra...@anu.edu.au
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] Re: Energy Drift in Gromacs 4.0
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  Ilya Chorny wrote:

  If I plot the K.E(t) and P.E.(t) they are both going down. In an NVE 
  simulation they should counter balance. I am leaking K.E. somewhere. I 
  reran with a relaxed P.E(t) and saw the same behavior.  This is 
  happening both at 2 and 4 fs so its not a time step issue. Any thoughts? 
   I thought it might be COM removal so I turned it off to no avail. 
  
 
  going down is seriously unhelpful. I told you you needed to 
  equilibrate before measuring such things. If you want people to take 
  your problem seriously, you'll need to announce that you have 
  equilibrated and for how long and in what ensembles, etc. If you're 
  having a problem, you need to demonstrate what areas you feel are not 
  causing it. We're not your family doctor who will ask a pile of 
  questions to find out the problem :-)
 
  Mark

 
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[gmx-users] How to carry out rigid body

2009-03-12 Thread lammps lammps
Hi everyone,

I want to peform CG-MDs with gromacs. In my system, there are some rigid
bodies which are composed by  hundreds of  LJ atoms.  Atoms of each rigid
body move  together in  LJ water solution.


How can I deal with it? Any suggestion is appreciated. Thanks in advance.

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Re: [gmx-users] How to carry out rigid body

2009-03-12 Thread XAvier Periole


In the case of Martini(CG)-derived protein simulations we use an  
elastic network
to connect the backbone (C-alpha) beads. This allows to control the  
conformation

and dynamics of the protein.

We parameterized this EN to reproduce atomistic simulations and  
observed that
with a cutoff of 0.8/0.9 nm and a force constant of 500 kJ/mol/nm2 the  
CG-protein
could reproduce structural (rmsd) and dynamical (rmsf and large  
amplitude collective

motion) properties.

That might help you, although I am not sure what your objects are.

XAvier.

On Mar 12, 2009, at 2:47 PM, lammps lammps wrote:


Hi everyone,

I want to peform CG-MDs with gromacs. In my system, there are some  
rigid bodies which are composed by  hundreds of  LJ atoms.  Atoms of  
each rigid body move  together in  LJ water solution.



How can I deal with it? Any suggestion is appreciated. Thanks in  
advance.


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[gmx-users] Minimization not converging

2009-03-12 Thread Jack Shultz
Hi,

I think that my minimization are not running long enough. I've been
following the parameters in tutorials but it seems like they all die
at 34 steps

I've been using these tutorials
https://extras.csc.fi/chem/courses/gmx2007/tutorial1/tutorial1.pdf
http://md.chem.rug.nl/education/mdcourse/MDpract.html

Its been the same case for me regardless to whether I use Windows or
Linux platforms. Are there settings I can use to make the simulation
minimize longer or is this case where I need to have double precision
version?

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[gmx-users] Re: Minimization not converging

2009-03-12 Thread Jack Shultz
I should have included some output

Step=   32, Dmax= 2.4e-06 nm, Epot= -1.03223e+05 Fmax= 3.87326e+06, atom= 25439
Step=   33, Dmax= 1.2e-06 nm, Epot= -1.03222e+05 Fmax= 3.87334e+06, atom= 25439
Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
Converged to machine precision,
but not to the requested precision Fmax  10

Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)

writing lowest energy coordinates.

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 34 steps,
but did not reach the requested Fmax  10.
Potential Energy  = -1.4354568e+06
Maximum force =  6.9535597e+10 on atom 25439
Norm of force =  4.5592896e+08

More details here.
http://www.hydrogenathome.org/result.php?resultid=1291344

On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Jack Shultz
jshu...@hydrogenathome.org wrote:
 Hi,

 I think that my minimization are not running long enough. I've been
 following the parameters in tutorials but it seems like they all die
 at 34 steps

 I've been using these tutorials
 https://extras.csc.fi/chem/courses/gmx2007/tutorial1/tutorial1.pdf
 http://md.chem.rug.nl/education/mdcourse/MDpract.html

 Its been the same case for me regardless to whether I use Windows or
 Linux platforms. Are there settings I can use to make the simulation
 minimize longer or is this case where I need to have double precision
 version?

 --
 Jack

 http://www.facebook.com/home.php#/profile.php?id=832713248
 http://hydrogenathome.org




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Re: [gmx-users] Re: Minimization not converging

2009-03-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Jack Shultz wrote:

I should have included some output

Step=   32, Dmax= 2.4e-06 nm, Epot= -1.03223e+05 Fmax= 3.87326e+06, atom= 25439
Step=   33, Dmax= 1.2e-06 nm, Epot= -1.03222e+05 Fmax= 3.87334e+06, atom= 25439
Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
Converged to machine precision,
but not to the requested precision Fmax  10

Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)

writing lowest energy coordinates.

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 34 steps,
but did not reach the requested Fmax  10.
Potential Energy  = -1.4354568e+06
Maximum force =  6.9535597e+10 on atom 25439
Norm of force =  4.5592896e+08

More details here.
http://www.hydrogenathome.org/result.php?resultid=1291344



From your pdb2gmx output, it looks like you have some lousy starting geometry 
in whatever structure you're processing:


http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Errors#Long_bonds_and.2For_missing_atoms

Try to run EM on that structure before solvating (i.e., in vacuo) , because you 
probably have lots of steric clashes with the solvent arising because of 
improper protein geometry.


-Justin


On Thu, Mar 12, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Jack Shultz
jshu...@hydrogenathome.org wrote:

Hi,

I think that my minimization are not running long enough. I've been
following the parameters in tutorials but it seems like they all die
at 34 steps

I've been using these tutorials
https://extras.csc.fi/chem/courses/gmx2007/tutorial1/tutorial1.pdf
http://md.chem.rug.nl/education/mdcourse/MDpract.html

Its been the same case for me regardless to whether I use Windows or
Linux platforms. Are there settings I can use to make the simulation
minimize longer or is this case where I need to have double precision
version?

--
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http://hydrogenathome.org







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Re: [gmx-users] pdb files

2009-03-12 Thread oguz gurbulak
Dear Justin,

Can I get a itp file tempate for  OPLS-AA according to your suggestions below 
and editing the itp file for my molecule. Is it possible to do this ? Or is 
there an alternative way apart from manually writing the itp file  for  OPLS-AA 
?

Thanks in advance



You will not want to create a topology from these files, because
pdb2gmx would create a huge mess of files to deal with (a different
topology for each chain).  What you want is to do is to create .itp
files for each individual molecule type in your system.  This will
probably have to be done by hand if you want to use OPLS-AA.  Depending
on the complexity of your molecule, you may be able to use an .rtp
entry, but I would suggest processing a single molecule of this type
with pdb2gmx to create a .top for that molecule (which can be converted
to a .itp for later use).



--- On Sat, 3/7/09, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] pdb files
To: gurbulako...@yahoo.com, Discussion list for GROMACS users 
gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 9:28 AM



oguz gurbulak wrote:
  
 Dear All,
 
  
 I want to use packmol pdb files that includes one or two different types of 
 molecules. And I seached Gromacs manuals, tutorials and mail archives in 
 order to have enough information about using packmol pdb files in Gromacs. 
 But I couldn't find any information. So Could you please give me the 
 information about this ? How can I use a packmol pdb file for oplsaa and 
 gromacs united-atom force field in generating .gro and .top files for md 
 simulations?
 
  

You will not want to create a topology from these files, because pdb2gmx would 
create a huge mess of files to deal with (a different topology for each 
chain).  What you want is to do is to create .itp files for each individual 
molecule type in your system.  This will probably have to be done by hand if 
you want to use OPLS-AA.  Depending on the complexity of your molecule, you may 
be able to use an .rtp entry, but I would suggest processing a single molecule 
of this type with pdb2gmx to create a .top for that molecule (which can be 
converted to a .itp for later use).

Do not use the Gromacs force field (ffgmx); it is deprecated and should not 
be used for new simulations.  Use a newer Gromos96 variant.  You can get 
Gromos96-compatible topologies from the PRODRG 2.5 server, but be warned that 
the charges and charge groups assigned by PRODRG are often inconsistent and 
unsatisfactory, requiring manual alteration and validation.

Summary:
1. Create .itp files for each molecule type individually.
2. Construct a .top yourself, which would be as simple as:

#include ffoplsaa.itp

#include molecule_A.itp
#include molecule_B.itp

#include spc.itp
#include ions.itp

[ system ]
packmol system

[ molecules ]
Molecule_A    N
Molecule_B    N
SOL           N
(then whatever ions you need, if any)

-Justin

 
 Sincerely
 
    
 
 
 
 
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[gmx-users] Variance in ED

2009-03-12 Thread andrea carotti
Hi all,
perhaps a silly question but i didn't find the correct way to calculate
the variance explained by each eigenvec in ED analysis.
Could someone point me out to a correct tool/option to use.
I'm using gmx v3.3.
Many thanks
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[gmx-users] Problem to simulate silica melts and amorphous silica with BKS potentials

2009-03-12 Thread David Waroquiers
Hello again.

It's pretty clear now for me thanks. I still have a little problem due
to the unphysical trend of the BKS potentials for r -- 0 : it goes to
minus infinity. The atoms can thus collide in case of a high temperature
(providing them enough velocity to overcome the barrier) and I get the
following error which I suppose is connected to this problem :

Range checking error:
Explanation: During neighborsearching, we assign each particle to a grid
based on its coordinates. If your system contains collisions or
parameter
errors that give particles very high velocities you might end up with
some
coordinates being +-Infinity or NaN (not-a-number). Obviously, we cannot
put these on a grid, so this is usually where we detect those errors.
Make sure your system is properly energy-minimized and that the
potential
energy seems reasonable before trying again.

Variable ci has value -2147483648. It should have been within [ 0 ..
8 ]

Practically, at ambient temperatures of the order of 300 K, it doesn't
happen but I want to anneal first at 5000 K to get a melt SiO2 and then
quench it to 300 K.

The standard procedure to avoid particle colliding is to add a hard
repulsive part acting only on short distances. Is it possible to add a
repulsive part on short distances only (something like
Vrep(r)=a*(r-r0)^4 with r0 being the distance at which the barrier is at
its maximum) and how could I do it ? The potential energy should then be
V=Vrep(r) for r  r0 and V=V_BKS(r) for r  r0.

If it's not possible analytically, I assume I should use a user
specified potential function by making a table.xvg file with the x,
f(x), f'(x), etc ... as it is mentioned in the manual (p133 and p148) ?

David Waroquiers - PhD Student
Université Catholique de Louvain
Laboratoire de Physico-Chimie et de Physique des Matériaux
European Theoretical Spectroscopy Facility

Mark Abraham wrote:
 David Waroquiers wrote:
  Hello
  
  I'm trying to simulate amorphous SiO2 with the use of the BKS potentials
  (van Beest, B. W. H.; Kramer, G. J.  van Santen, R. A. - Phys. Rev.
  Lett., American Physical Society, 1990, 64, 1955-1958).
  
  According to these potentials, I should use the Buckingham potentials
  with user-defined parameters plus a coulomb part with user-defined
  charges for each atom type. I don't need any other forcefield from
  GROMACS.
 
  When I try to preprocess my topology file and get the .tpr binary file
  in order to start the simulation, I get the following message in the
  terminal :
  
  processing topology...
  Generated 0 of the 3 non-bonded parameter combinations
  Excluding 0 bonded neighbours molecule type 'O'
  Excluding 0 bonded neighbours molecule type 'Si'
  
  I don't understand why my non-bonded parameters aren't generated ...

 Generation refers to the process described in (probably) chapter 4 of 
 the manual where all possible pairwise interactions between a set of 
 atom types are calculated from generic parameters characteristic of the 
 two atom types involved (see your [atomtypes] entries). An alternative 
 is to describe the pairwise interactions specifically, as you have done. 
 Thus GROMACS didn't need to generate any, and reports this fact.
 
 Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] pdb files

2009-03-12 Thread oguz gurbulak
Will I write two  .rtp files for two different molecules ? or Will I write  one 
rtp file that includes all parameters of these two molecules ? And how can I 
use the rtp file when creating the input files ( .gro and .top )  ?

Thanks in advance


--- On Thu, 3/12/09, Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu wrote:

From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] pdb files
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:11 PM



oguz gurbulak wrote:
 Dear Justin,
 
 Can I get a itp file tempate for OPLS-AA according to your suggestions below 
 and editing the itp file for my molecule. Is it possible to do this ? Or is 
 there an alternative way apart from manually writing the itp file for OPLS-AA 
 ?
 

You're stuck either writing an .rtp entry for use with pdb2gmx, or writing the 
.itp yourself.

-Justin

 Thanks in advance
 
 
 
 You will not want to create a topology from these files, because pdb2gmx 
 would create a huge mess of files to deal with (a different topology for each 
 chain).  What you want is to do is to create .itp files for each individual 
 molecule type in your system.  This will probably have to be done by hand if 
 you want to use OPLS-AA.  Depending on the complexity of your molecule, you 
 may be able to use an .rtp entry, but I would suggest processing a single 
 molecule of this type with pdb2gmx to create a .top for that molecule (which 
 can be converted to a .itp for later use).
 
 
 
 --- On *Sat, 3/7/09, Justin A. Lemkul /jalem...@vt.edu/* wrote:
 
 
     From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
     Subject: Re: [gmx-users] pdb files
     To: gurbulako...@yahoo.com, Discussion list for GROMACS users
     gmx-users@gromacs.org
     Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 9:28 AM
 
 
 
     oguz gurbulak wrote:
             Dear All,
      
             I want to use packmol pdb files that includes one or two
     different types of molecules. And I seached Gromacs manuals,
     tutorials and mail archives in order to have enough information
     about using packmol pdb files in Gromacs. But I couldn't find any
     information. So Could you please give me the information about this
     ? How can I use a packmol pdb file for oplsaa and gromacs
     united-atom force field in generating .gro and .top files for md
     simulations?
      
       
     You will not want to create a topology from these files, because
     pdb2gmx would create a huge mess of files to deal with (a different
     topology for each chain).  What you want is to do is to create .itp
     files for each individual molecule type in your system.  This will
     probably have to be done by hand if you want to use OPLS-AA.     
Depending on the complexity of your molecule, you may be able to use
     an .rtp entry, but I would suggest processing a single molecule of
     this type with pdb2gmx to create a .top for that molecule (which can
     be converted to a .itp for later use).
 
     Do not use the Gromacs force field (ffgmx); it is deprecated and
     should not be used for new simulations.  Use a newer Gromos96
     variant.  You can get Gromos96-compatible topologies from the PRODRG
     2.5 server, but be warned that the charges and charge groups
     assigned by PRODRG are often inconsistent and unsatisfactory,
     requiring manual alteration and validation.
 
     Summary:
     1. Create .itp files for each molecule type individually.
     2. Construct a .top yourself, which would be as simple as:
 
     #include ffoplsaa.itp
 
     #include molecule_A.itp
     #include molecule_B.itp
 
     #include spc.itp
     #include ions.itp
 
     [ system ]
     packmol system
 
     [ molecules ]
     Molecule_A    N
     Molecule_B    N
     SOL           N
     (then whatever ions you need, if any)
 
     -Justin
 
      
       Sincerely
      
              
      
      
     
      
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[gmx-users] problems with gmxtest.pl

2009-03-12 Thread Bernhard Bandow
Dear users and developers of gromacs,

although running the tests is straight forward some advice how to
interpret the results would be helpful.
If a test ends with
Testing xyz . . . PASSED but check mdp file differences
and 'diff' of the mdp files shows a differenet file header only
everything seems to be fine. Is this right?

One of the 45 pdb2gmx tests fails. Presumably it is that one which puts
its files into:
pdb2gmx/pdb-6pti/ffencads/none/spc
The potential energies of the other tests in ener.log deviate from those
in reference_s.log. Is there a rule of thumb how small the deviations
should be in order to be tolerable?

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Re: [gmx-users] pdb files

2009-03-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



oguz gurbulak wrote:
Will I write two  .rtp files for two different molecules ? or Will I 
write  one rtp file that includes all parameters of these two molecules 
? And how can I use the rtp file when creating the input files ( .gro 
and .top )  ?




Read the manual, section 5.6.1.

-Justin


Thanks in advance


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From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
Subject: Re: [gmx-users] pdb files
To: Discussion list for GROMACS users gmx-users@gromacs.org
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 12:11 PM



oguz gurbulak wrote:
  Dear Justin,
 
  Can I get a itp file tempate for OPLS-AA according to your
suggestions below and editing the itp file for my molecule. Is it
possible to do this ? Or is there an alternative way apart from
manually writing the itp file for OPLS-AA ?
 

You're stuck either writing an .rtp entry for use with pdb2gmx, or
writing the .itp yourself.

-Justin

  Thanks in advance
 
 
 
  You will not want to create a topology from these files,
because pdb2gmx would create a huge mess of files to deal with (a
different topology for each chain).  What you want is to do is to
create .itp files for each individual molecule type in your system. 
This will probably have to be done by hand if you want to use

OPLS-AA.  Depending on the complexity of your molecule, you may be
able to use an .rtp entry, but I would suggest processing a single
molecule of this type with pdb2gmx to create a .top for that
molecule (which can be converted to a .itp for later use).
 
 
 
  --- On *Sat, 3/7/09, Justin A. Lemkul /jalem...@vt.edu
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  From: Justin A. Lemkul jalem...@vt.edu
/mc/compose?to=jalem...@vt.edu
  Subject: Re: [gmx-users] pdb files
  To: gurbulako...@yahoo.com
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GROMACS users
  gmx-users@gromacs.org /mc/compose?to=gmx-us...@gromacs.org
  Date: Saturday, March 7, 2009, 9:28 AM
 
 
 
  oguz gurbulak wrote:
  Dear All,
   
  I want to use packmol pdb files that includes one
or two
  different types of molecules. And I seached Gromacs manuals,
  tutorials and mail archives in order to have enough information
  about using packmol pdb files in Gromacs. But I couldn't find any
  information. So Could you please give me the information
about this
  ? How can I use a packmol pdb file for oplsaa and gromacs
  united-atom force field in generating .gro and .top files for md
  simulations?
   
   
  You will not want to create a topology from these files, because
  pdb2gmx would create a huge mess of files to deal with (a
different
  topology for each chain).  What you want is to do is to
create .itp
  files for each individual molecule type in your system.  This
will
  probably have to be done by hand if you want to use OPLS-AA. 
   Depending on the complexity of your molecule, you may be able to use

  an .rtp entry, but I would suggest processing a single
molecule of
  this type with pdb2gmx to create a .top for that molecule
(which can
  be converted to a .itp for later use).
 
  Do not use the Gromacs force field (ffgmx); it is
deprecated and
  should not be used for new simulations.  Use a newer Gromos96
  variant.  You can get Gromos96-compatible topologies from the
PRODRG
  2.5 server, but be warned that the charges and charge groups
  assigned by PRODRG are often inconsistent and unsatisfactory,
  requiring manual alteration and validation.
 
  Summary:
  1. Create .itp files for each molecule type individually.
  2. Construct a .top yourself, which would be as simple as:
 
  #include ffoplsaa.itp
 
  #include molecule_A.itp
  #include molecule_B.itp
 
  #include spc.itp
  #include ions.itp
 
  [ system ]
  packmol system
 
  [ molecules ]
  Molecule_AN
  Molecule_BN
  SOL   N
  (then whatever ions you need, if any)
 
  -Justin
 
   
Sincerely
   
   
   
   
  
   

   
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Re: [gmx-users] Variance in ED

2009-03-12 Thread Tsjerk Wassenaar
Hi Andrea,

The variance associated with an eigenvector is the eigenvalue. The sum
of the eigenvalues captures the total variance. Accordingly, dividing
an eigenvalue by the sum of all eigenvalues gives the part of the
total variance explained by the eigenvector.

Cheers,

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 Hi all,
 perhaps a silly question but i didn't find the correct way to calculate
 the variance explained by each eigenvec in ED analysis.
 Could someone point me out to a correct tool/option to use.
 I'm using gmx v3.3.
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[gmx-users] problem in energy minimization

2009-03-12 Thread Abhik Mukhopadhyay
Hi everyone, 
I am trying to run a simulation on a xray structure that has 15 residues 
missing. I have made the topology file accordingly. But after energy 
minimization, the residues between which the portion is missing, got connected. 
I tried an energy minimization with all-bonds constraint, but that i guess did 
not do it properly. 
This is the last part of the minimization run 

Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
Converged to machine precision,
but not to the requested precision Fmax  1000

Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)

writing lowest energy coordinates.

Back Off! I just backed up ccpox_em.trr to ./#ccpox_em.trr.1#

Back Off! I just backed up ccpox_b4pr.pdb to ./#ccpox_b4pr.pdb.1#

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 15 steps,
but did not reach the requested Fmax  1000.
Potential Energy  = -2.2785961e+05
Maximum force =  5.1547680e+08 on atom 1004
Norm of force =  8.2600877e+08

My question is how can I run a simulation on these structure keeping that part 
as it is?

Thanking you in advance.
Abhik



  

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  Departamento Química / Faculdade de Ciências e Tecnologia 
 Universidade Nova de Lisboa , 2829-516 Caparica, Portugal 

Mob. 00351912991251
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[gmx-users] removal of COM

2009-03-12 Thread Sun Joo Lee

Hello Users

I am trying to measure the drift of molecules in the system.
When I ran the simulation,  the removal of center-of-mass of the whole  
system took place at every step.


From the mailing list, I've found that removal of COM works by making  
the velocity of the COM to be zero by subtracting the velocity from  
every particle velocity.


It would be very grateful if you can help me to make two points clear;

1) Would the magnitude to be subtracted  from every particle velocity   
be the same (or different depending on the mass of the particle)?


2) Could removal of COM make one type of molecule move in an opposite  
direction of the other molecules that move in one direction to keep  
maintain the COM of the system at its original position?



Thank you in advance
Sunjoo


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Re: [gmx-users] problem in energy minimization

2009-03-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Abhik Mukhopadhyay wrote:

Hi everyone,
I am trying to run a simulation on a xray structure that has 15 residues 
missing. I have made the topology file accordingly. But after energy 
minimization, the residues between which the portion is missing, got 
connected. I tried an energy minimization with all-bonds constraint, but 
that i guess did not do it properly.

This is the last part of the minimization run



When you created the topology, did pdb2gmx add a bond between the residues 
flanking the missing residues?  What was your pdb2gmx command line?


If you are sure that the missing residues will not influence the dynamics (think 
carefully!), then read in the manual about distance restraints.  If you have 
difficulties implementing these restraints, there are dozens of posts in the 
list archive that should guide you in how to use them.


-Justin


Stepsize too small, or no change in energy.
Converged to machine precision,
but not to the requested precision Fmax  1000

Double precision normally gives you higher accuracy.
You might need to increase your constraint accuracy, or turn
off constraints alltogether (set constraints = none in mdp file)

writing lowest energy coordinates.

Back Off! I just backed up ccpox_em.trr to ./#ccpox_em.trr.1#

Back Off! I just backed up ccpox_b4pr.pdb to ./#ccpox_b4pr.pdb.1#

Steepest Descents converged to machine precision in 15 steps,
but did not reach the requested Fmax  1000.
Potential Energy  = -2.2785961e+05
Maximum force =  5.1547680e+08 on atom 1004
Norm of force =  8.2600877e+08

My question is how can I run a simulation on these structure keeping 
that part as it is?


Thanking you in advance.
Abhik



 


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*
Departamento Química / Faculdade de Ciências e Tecnologia
Universidade Nova de Lisboa , 2829-516 Caparica, Portugal

Mob. 00351912991251
http://xtal.dq.fct.unl.pt/





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[gmx-users] Reducing Size of Data

2009-03-12 Thread Jack Shultz
Hi,

I was wondering if there are any ways to reduce the amount of data
produce or compact it better. On some of my runs mdruns I ran out of
the default disk space BOINC allocated for my file system to run this
analysis. If I use the -compact flag, does that affect the size of the
trajectory files?

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Re: [gmx-users] Reducing Size of Data

2009-03-12 Thread Justin A. Lemkul



Jack Shultz wrote:

Hi,

I was wondering if there are any ways to reduce the amount of data
produce or compact it better. On some of my runs mdruns I ran out of
the default disk space BOINC allocated for my file system to run this
analysis. If I use the -compact flag, does that affect the size of the
trajectory files?



Increase nstxout, nstvout, and nstxtcout.  That will reduce the size of the .trr 
and .xtc, which are likely the largest files that you will be writing.  If you 
want to decrease the .xtc file even more, specify xtc_grps.  If the .log and 
.edr files get out of hand, adjust nstlog and nstenergy.  The -compact flag only 
affects the .log file, and is set by default.


-Justin

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Re: [gmx-users] Reducing Size of Data

2009-03-12 Thread Mark Abraham

Jack Shultz wrote:

Hi,

I was wondering if there are any ways to reduce the amount of data
produce or compact it better. On some of my runs mdruns I ran out of
the default disk space BOINC allocated for my file system to run this
analysis. If I use the -compact flag, does that affect the size of the
trajectory files?


http://wiki.gromacs.org/index.php/Using_Trajectory_Information#Reducing_Trajectory_Storage_Volume

Mark

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Re: [gmx-users] removal of COM

2009-03-12 Thread Mark Abraham

Sun Joo Lee wrote:

Hello Users

I am trying to measure the drift of molecules in the system.
When I ran the simulation,  the removal of center-of-mass of the whole 
system took place at every step.


 From the mailing list, I've found that removal of COM works by making 
the velocity of the COM to be zero by subtracting the velocity from 
every particle velocity.


It would be very grateful if you can help me to make two points clear;

1) Would the magnitude to be subtracted  from every particle velocity  
be the same (or different depending on the mass of the particle)?


The same. The COM is the mass-weighted center of geometry, so COM 
velocity is already the rate of change of the displacement of the 
mass-weighted center of geometry.


2) Could removal of COM make one type of molecule move in an opposite 
direction of the other molecules that move in one direction to keep 
maintain the COM of the system at its original position?


Sure. Consider a system with three particles moving to the left with 
speed 3 and one particle moving to the left with speed 1.


Mark
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[gmx-users] problems with gmxtest.pl

2009-03-12 Thread bandow
Dear users and developers of gromacs,

despite checking for the usage of the proper version of tests after
upgrading to gromacs-4.0.4 the test suite still produces results with
the status FAILED. This is the case for some tests in kernel, complex,
and pdb2gmx.
For example kernel020 fails with
/kernel020/checkvir.out  containing:

LJ-14step   0:  -63.1209,  step   0:  6.50743
Potentialstep   0:  -321.601,  step   0: -251.973
Kinetic En.  step   0:   15.0135,  step   0:  29.0739
Total Energy step   0:  -306.588,  step   0: -222.899
Temperature  step   0:   1.93226,  step   0:  3.74185
Pressure (bar)   step   0:  -3095.37,  step   0:  -2497.8
Vir-XX   step   0:   1127.45,  step   0:  1075.85
Vir-XY   step   0:63.524,  step   0:  21.7767
Vir-XZ   step   0:  -264.813,  step   0: -260.354
Vir-YX   step   0:   63.5241,  step   0:  21.7771
Vir-YY   step   0:   803.252,  step   0:  581.703
Vir-ZX   step   0:  -264.813,  step   0: -260.355
Vir-ZZ   step   0:   321.207,  step   0:  176.573

Any hints to locate the reasons for this behavior are appreciated.

Best regards

Bernhard Bandow

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[gmx-users] Force Field - Gromos96

2009-03-12 Thread tree

Dear All:


I appreciate it if it would be possible for me to have an answer related 
to Gromos96 force field.


I am hoping to know if the Gromos96 force field can support All-Atom 
calculation?

(Or does it 'only' support Unified Atom simulation?)

Thank you for your care!


Sincerely,

C Kim
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[gmx-users] free energy coupling/decoupling equivalence

2009-03-12 Thread chris . neale

Hello,

I have just read an interesting paper suggesting that the reference state in
free energy decoupling/coupling simulations should be the one with larger
entropy. Lu and Kofke Accuracy of free-energy perturbation calculations in
molecular simulation. I. Modeling JCP V. 114, N. 17 pp. 7303-7311 (2001).

I have seen some mention that:
  begin quote
Ordinarily, one would expect that forward and reverse only are
meaningful when you're (a) doing nonequilibrium simulations, or (b)
beginning simulations at lambda values from the ending configurations
at preceding lambda values.
  end quote
http://www.gromacs.org/pipermail/gmx-users/2008-February/032430.html

And now I am confused, since I would have thought that this was an important
forward vs. reverse difference, although I may have my terminology  
wrong here.


To put my questions succinctly:

1. In the gromacs implementation, is there any important difference
   between coupling and decoupling? I avoid the terms forwrad and
   reverse in order to avoid non-equilibrium or slow-growth connotations.

2. Does soft-core work properly for both LJ coupling and LJ decoupling?
   I am not clear how mdrun knows whether to soft-core lambda or 1-lambda
   since it is near the decoupled state that really needs the soft-core,
   and this could be at lambda or 1-lambda.

Background information:
I am doing coulomb and LJ separately; LJ only with soft-core; coulomb  
first in the decoupling. Everything is working fine for me in the  
decoupling department, but I am now considering switching to coupling  
as opposed to decoupling based on this Lu 2001 paper and am interested  
if anybody has some comments.


Thank you,
Chris.





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[gmx-users] Fwd: Force Field - Gromos96

2009-03-12 Thread Tree
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To: gmx-users@gromacs.org


Dear All:


I appreciate it if it would be possible for me to have an answer related to
Gromos96 force field.

I am hoping to know if the Gromos96 force field can support All-Atom
calculation?
(Or does it 'only' support Unified Atom simulation?)

Thank you for your care!


Sincerely,

C Kim
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[gmx-users] gmx in GPU calculation

2009-03-12 Thread li ming
Dear all:

I am troubled with this problem: when I run mdrun_openm faaia in GPU
calculation of gmx, I met the following information:

 *Back Off! I just backed up md.log to md.log.2*
**
*Getting Loaded...*
**
*Reading file 1.tpr, VERSION 4.0.3 (single precision)*
**
*Note: tpx file_version 58, software version 59*
**
*Segmentation fault*

 What does it mean? How can I run the this simulation? Thanks a lot...

  Ming
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